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[QUOTE=Loso69;1816526]I spent a couple of nights in Bangkok, with the intention of banging an African girl. Playing with dating app Tinder, I liked a black chick with lotsa curly hair. It was a match!
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Loso[/QUOTE]If you like Thai women, go to Thailand. If you like African women, then go to Africa. I still don't mind too much these women while walking at night on Sukhumvit road (as long as they don't touch me) - BUT I do mind their pimps who are 'trouble makers'.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1816337]It's mentioned in the middle of my last paragraph. I did not mention an orgasm though since hopefully, for most of us, that is a foregone conclusion. As I said, read more carefully before editorializing.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I was saying. You NEVER mentioned the 'ACT leading to an Orgasm'. Clearly we can see the number 69 (which is my favorite number by the way). But no mention of a finish anywhere. Therefore, based on your story, it didn't happen and the sucking turned straight into actual sex (intercourse) {just like you wrote it}. I'm wasn't trying to discourage you from writing and contributing. I am commenting on what I read. You can consider writing more carefully (unless English is not your first language).
Rhetorical questions. How can you leave out the main event? And if there was an orgasm during 69, shouldn't there be mention of a short break in the action before sex? Or are we to assume you just stayed hard, rolled on a condom and started pounding as your wrote it?
My comments are based on what 'I' consider to be right in the P4 P arena regarding actual sex with a dick inside the pussy.
Just like the ladies talk about pricing, we do the same. Helps us the same way they try to help each other. And if that lady pulled that crap on you, the efforts should be geared towards not letting the same thing happen to the next guy. The way you wrote it, it read as oral and intercourse 1 x (to me that = shortchanged).
IMO, these are the main points:
1. If a guy takes a lady and comes once in her mouth, that's just the start. That would be just like foreplay because there was no intercourse. We are not done yet. And it's only been 20 minutes or so, we still plenty of time for complete the FS. If a guy only wants a BJ, go to a BJ place and pay a hell of a lot less for that.
2. Like most men, we need a recovery period of at least 15 to 30 minutes before going again. When we do have intercourse, that constitutes sex 1 x. AKA FS.
3. For a ST deal, now she can go with her ST payment for full service. If she wants to stay and sleep in my comfortable room with AC, a nice bed, and with me. And I am OK with her staying, then she can stay. Still just ST money along with some cab fare to get home. Because I like to to do that for them if they stay the night and take good care of me.
4. If she stays all night because we agreed on LT (as was the case with you), then I get another round of sex the next day before she leaves. To me that is the purpose of keeping her LT. If that didn't happen, then someone got shortchanged.
I won't try to tell another person what to do or how to spend his money. But I will offer my opinion, especially when it appears that someone is getting taken advantage of.
Sometimes (not often here in Thailand) the girls will try that shit. They will get up and shower in the morning and get dressed. Not on my watch. I tell them, baby we agreed on LT, I want boom boom again and I pull them back to the bed.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1816253] ... DATY on my part, whether I would like to 69 to which I readily agreed. This was followed by some nice doggie and sleep. True to her word, she rejected my advances in the morning but I was more than happy with my experience. May return, Actually.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1816387]It sounds like you had a real good time and that is the only thing that matters, but technically speaking, I would never conclude that a 69 led to an orgasm because I consider 69 foreplay and I always end it before my climax. Don't get me wrong. I love 69. There is something about it that really turns me on, but I love my dick buried deep inside a girl's vagina even more. My point of view only: it ain't sex if I don't cum in the pussy. 555.[/QUOTE]Hey NB, that's exactly right. And even if the 69 or BJ did lead to cumming, we ain't finished yet. :)
[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1816552]If you like Thai women, go to Thailand. If you like African women, then go to Africa. I still don't mind too much these women while walking at night on Sukhumvit road (as long as they don't touch me) - BUT I do mind their pimps who are 'trouble makers'.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more! Why someone would travel to Thailand to meet Russian girls is beyond me. Some Russian girls are hot, but the problem is their attitude. I have in fact never met a Russian girl with the cute attitude that most Thai and Philippine girls show in spades. They hardly smile (as their male counterparts.), have zero humor and looks like it is a drag to get trough the day. Thank God (or Buddha.) for the Thai girls!! The African girls sure can be interesting. I have chatted many just to learn more about them and their quirky ways, but could never ever imagine to take them to bed. Why go to the land of smiles with thousands of beautiful girls and look for Africans or Russian girls?? African prostitutes are all over the world so why pay for the flight to Thailand?
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1816321]You need to read my post more carefully or otherwise you consider a '69' leading to orgasm as a non-qualifier. After the 69, I did her doggie and we both had a nice O and then slept. She had already told me beforehand that she would go LT at this price but she would only have sex two times. I consider 69 with orgasm as sex. She was honest about it and I am not going to quibble about the nature of my orgasm and also had a good time with her overall. Enough said. Additionally, as the other poster mentioned, this is a good LT price to begin with.
As far as the other girl ordering an additional drink for her friend, I guess that I could have told her to pay for it herself but that might have killed the deal at the time (Cheap Charlie et. Al) and the extra drink price was not expensive. I also thought (and hoped) perhaps she did not hear me or understand due to the noise. I ended up self-sabotaging the deal with her because as I said I sensed overall things might not go so great back at the hotel. Part of my reasoning had to do with the extra drink she ordered.
I have heard rumors before about LB's in there but have never encountered or seen any, even in over heard conversation, in the two winters I have been going. I do see some LB's sometimes stroll by as there may be a LB bar further up that Soi.
I told a couple of guys about the 5 k baht price. All were surprised though it may have to do with the venue. I am sure Aloft, Spassos, etc. Girls can command that price but Bangkok Beat is another story.[/QUOTE]I have not been in Bangkok Beat for a few months. However when I was there previously, always had a percentage of them, can't remember exact numbers. Could have been only 1 to 3. So I just issue warning for guys to stay alert. With a regular guy tongue kissing one of them, made me squirm a bit. She wasn't pretty enough for me. LOL and probably still had an unwanted attachment. Its like seeing gays smooching in Soho. Disturbing.
For me, sex session count is not related to the number of shots, although I could see that others think that way.
During a session I like to take a five to 10 minute relax with no dick stimulation, then restart. My feeling increases after a short break. I don't consider it a separate sex session.
A girl could have between 0 and 10 orgasms in a sex session ( 10 is a freak sensitive type). I could have between 0 and 2, with one being my personal norm, due to quite insensitive and difficult to cum. I would only try for a second if got first one out quickly which is unusual for me. Most girls are not into fucking for extremely long duration, like over 60 minutes of dick in pussy or any other hole.
I do like girls with stamina though. Sensitive girls can cum 5 times in 30 minutes so stamina is not likely with them.
Like Natty, I rarely try to cum during foreplay. I try to make the girl get one. I am still looking forward to dick in pussy though. I go to a BJ bar for full sex LOL. BJ is not enough usually.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1816645]
1. If a guy takes a lady and comes once in her mouth, that's just the start. That would be just like foreplay because there was no intercourse. We are not done yet. And it's only been 20 minutes or so, we still plenty of time for complete the FS. If a guy only wants a BJ, go to a BJ place and pay a hell of a lot less for that.
2. Like most men, we need a recovery period of at least 15 to 30 minutes before going again. When we do have intercourse, that constitutes sex 1 x. AKA FS.[/QUOTE]ST equals one pop. Been that way the entire 16 years I have been here. Does not matter how the pop is elicited. That is what you can expect with a FL or GoGo gal unless you negotiate differently. ST with FLs and GoGo gals is not based on time but on you finishing. That's why I go to certain oilies. You are paying for an amount of time. Pop as many times as you can during that time.
News Flash:
I am not parsing out every detail of a personal sexual escapade just for your edification and analysis. It was a great deal with a nice girl at 2 k baht for Long Term and I was satisfied. End of story. And, other posters agree with me.
If you want to criticize, then complain about the old dude I referred to in my report who voluntarily offered her friend 5 k baht for Long Term. Do the math.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1816653]ST equals one pop. Been that way the entire 16 years I have been here. Does not matter how the pop is elicited. That is what you can expect with a FL or GoGo gal unless you negotiate differently. ST with FLs and GoGo gals is not based on time but on you finishing. That's why I go to certain oilies. You are paying for an amount of time. Pop as many times as you can during that time.[/QUOTE]Goat, you know that I know the deal in Thailand. We have talking about this on the phone, remember. When I do go ST, I usually make it clear what I am getting first. Which is a BJ and FS.
[QUOTE=Loso69;1816526]I spent a couple of nights in Bangkok, with the intention of banging an African girl. Playing with dating app Tinder, I liked a black chick with lotsa curly hair. It was a match!
sole beer! When we finally left around 9.30 AM, the African Bar was still going strong!
Loso[/QUOTE]Hi Loso,
Is this place after the Nep when you keep on walking towards omni tower on the right side there is rajah hotel, just before that in the Soi towards the hotel again on the right hand is an African club I remember I went for an after hours drinking session. One of the Thai girls I picked liked hip hop she took me there. Its a nice place but I didn't see any lift just that it had stairs and huge stairs maybe double the size of normal stairs. And I didn't see any Arab club there, maybe I am talking about another African club.
Adios,
Alex
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1816652] ... For me, sex session count is not related to the number of shots, although I could see that others think that way.
During a session I like to take a five to 10 minute relax with no dick stimulation, then restart. My feeling increases after a short break.
I don't consider it a separate sex session.
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Like Natty, I rarely try to cum during foreplay. I try to make the girl get one. I am still looking forward to dick in pussy though. I go to a BJ bar for full sex LOL. BJ is not enough usually.[/QUOTE]On the same sheet of music here. And even with a great BJ to start, I generally always want some sex.
In regards to Bangkok Beat, last time there in April. Good crowd and good music. Always a few decent looking women asking for 2 - 3 k. Fortunately, with the exception of one time, I have only paid 1. 5 for LT in the past 4 years in Bangkok. The one time I did pay 2 k was about about 2 years ago. This sweet and sexy 21 year old was a part-time FL college girl. Kept her all night at Dynasty Inn. The next day, after round 2, she had to go to her university for 1 or 2 classes. I asked to her come back afterwards and she did. Well worth the extra 500. Now, as I start to get a little older (LOL), and with prices increasing for everything including food, I soon may need to adjust pricing too. For now, there are just too many options available.
[QUOTE=Aviator12;1816647]Could not agree more! Why someone would travel to Thailand to meet Russian girls is beyond me. Some Russian girls are hot, but the problem is their attitude. I have in fact never met a Russian girl with the cute attitude that most Thai and Philippine girls show in spades. They hardly smile (as their male counterparts.), have zero humor and looks like it is a drag to get trough the day. Thank God (or Buddha.) for the Thai girls!! The African girls sure can be interesting. I have chatted many just to learn more about them and their quirky ways, but could never ever imagine to take them to bed. Why go to the land of smiles with thousands of beautiful girls and look for Africans or Russian girls?? African prostitutes are all over the world so why pay for the flight to Thailand?[/QUOTE]I do not normally go with African woman in Thailand. But, will go for it if the girl is hot. Last year I met an African girl in Bangkok. When she got undressed oh my god! Incredible body. Huge triple the breasts and she was not fat. She looked like the girl that starred in that hooker movie called Coffee. Black chicks tend to give extra good service and be extra nice. They have to be because a lot of black chicks give black girls a bad reputation because they have been known to rip off customers and all kinds of other bullshit. At least that is how it is in the states.
Russian girls in Thailand. I could not agree more about he bad attitude. I was with them like 6 years in a row. Every year different Russian girls same place. But they were extremely beautiful and perfect body. Then last year I do not know what happened. But, with each one I was with last year probably about 5 different ones. Their attitude was OK and some even very good. One started French kissing me during the act. I don't know where that came from. But, had so much fun. But, we don't have to worry about Russian girl in Thailand more. Our Muslim friends chased them all away. If you can find any let me know. I am in Thailand now.
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1816660]Goat, you know that I know the deal in Thailand. We have talking about this on the phone, remember. When I do go ST, I usually make it clear what I am getting first. Which is a BJ and FS.[/QUOTE]Yes, I remember, but so many dudes will think that they can get that without negotiating it first. I wish I was such a good negotiator! Never able to pull that one off with the exception of gals that are really revved up and ready to go. Or perhaps it is the fact that it takes me 30 min to reload. 555+!
[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1816673]On the same sheet of music here. And even with a great BJ to start, I generally always want some sex.
In regards to Bangkok Beat, last time there in April. Good crowd and good music. Always a few decent looking women asking for 2 - 3 k. Fortunately, with the exception of one time, I have only paid 1. 5 for LT in the past 4 years in Bangkok. The one time I did pay 2 k was about about 2 years ago. This sweet and sexy 21 year old was a part-time FL college girl. Kept her all night at Dynasty Inn. The next day, after round 2, she had to go to her university for 1 or 2 classes. I asked to her come back afterwards and she did. Well worth the extra 500. Now, as I start to get a little older (LOL), and with prices increasing for everything including food, I soon may need to adjust pricing too. For now, there are just too many options available.[/QUOTE]I think most all will go for 1. 5 in low season. And seems that during the year the average age at Bangkok Beat has crept slowly up. It's become a middle age haven, whereas the BG has some grandmas for sure. Getting a repeat visit for 2 k is a very good deal.
On the subject of age, I was in Pattaya for a night this weekend. Jeez, the farang punters there are an old lot these days. And it seems that after the bars close the gals would rather hook up with the younger Arab dudes. Last time I combed Walking St after 2 am was about 8 years ago. Must have had 40 or 50 gals approach me as I strolled down the street then. This time nada. Very different vibe. I did enjoy Kinnaree though. Did not get the time to hit Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1816653]ST equals one pop. Been that way the entire 16 years I have been here. Does not matter how the pop is elicited. That is what you can expect with a FL or GoGo gal unless you negotiate differently. ST with FLs and GoGo gals is not based on time but on you finishing. That's why I go to certain oilies. You are paying for an amount of time. Pop as many times as you can during that time.[/QUOTE]In a Soapy, I don't believe a pop in the bath, will constitute the end of the sex play.
As I do not pop from bath BJ, I can't be sure. I doubt a guy will get two pops on the bed in most Soapies. Too many girls are looking for a quick come, especially at places with a lot of asian customers, e. G. La Belle. Have had a good girl there but rare. Maybe a lot of bad luck. Maybe the girls with nose jobs are better. LOL.
I also had low success rates with young inexperienced girls at Nataree. Much better success rates at Annies even if many girls there are not of doable looks.
15 to 20 years back I had very good experiences at ChaoPraya 2. Good balance between experience, looks, and not being scared of dick with a big line up. Hard to find any place quite like that, now. Not many sillies and nose jobs in those days but plenty of fatties especially in the body slide and Booran sections.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1816715]Yes, I remember, but so many dudes will think that they can get that without negotiating it first. I wish I was such a good negotiator! Never able to pull that one off with the exception of gals that are really revved up and ready to go. Or perhaps it is the fact that it takes me 30 min to reload. 555+![/QUOTE]I don't negotiate services, but then I only expect one pop. I do expect both BJ and sex. Some girls will try to avoid the BJ. Fortunately not many. In this last visit to Thailand of 4 weeks plus, luckily only had one crap girl for the whole time. I forget if she tried to skip the BJ. Quite possible. Anyway starfish style. All other girls have pretty good GFE.
Probably only tried 2 new girls from gogos (4 others were repeats), both slim and pretty. So 1 good out of two is not so surprising. 5 New girls tried in MPs of various types were all good GFE, 3 will be repeated, and good enough for me undemanding type. All I need is GFE and stamina. The 2 not likely to be repeated had body shape flaws, from Addict and Amsterdam. Fuck was fine, but I like to have pretty face and stunning body as well, if possible. My sexual excitement is greatly increased by optical qualities, or by special service. I can accept a looks fault but not too many, please.
Probably have almost enough regular girls now again, that I don't need to try any new girls unless really stunning and cannot be ignored.
I lost my main pse girl early in the year. Perhaps need a replacement but I want a very pretty one.
In my last week, i probably had a P4P fuck only 2 or 3 times. I am planning to cut back on mongering in 2016 and hope can get more from GF.
Do other guys living in Thailamd set yourselves a budget for number of P4P fucks per week. Like is just 1 or 2 an achievable target or is it going to cause too much frustration?
I am sure I can't do just 3 fucks for my first week in Thailand, but that might be achievable for subsequent weeks. I hope to get GF of over 10 years, to provide 2 per week average. In that event just 2 monger fucks might be doable. LOL I am close to 60 but still a semi sex addict. Hard to resist temptations.
My GF would like to take something to boost her libido. Do any vitamins or herbs really work for women? Us men don't need it. I am more than willing any time GF is horny. She cums easily as is sensitive. She still looks hot even though close to 40. She does get horny but not so often. She is rather shy too and very religious.