Crime, Safety, and the Police

[QUOTE=Lost99;2681068]Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]1. Carry maybe $200 in pesos and small US bills. Use ATMs when needed, keep extra money, etc. , in hotel safe.

2. Just about anywhere on Revolucion will be safe any time. For a newb I'd avoid walking along in the Zona Norte section of Constitucion and Ninos Heroes after 2 am. I wouldn't go north of Primera on Revolucion unless you're headed to the gay bar El Premier.

3. Yes, Cirrus will be fine.

4. I can't imagine a week of constant Zona Norte brothel exposure. You might love it, I'd get bored out of my tree after a couple days.

5. Walk up to any gringo you see in any of the bars and strike up a conversation. That's the easiest way.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2681228]Your biggest vulnerability to policia robbery will be coming through the border. Not the border patrol, but once you start getting in taxis or drive in. So walk in with under $300, then go to a ATM on calle revolucion. Just get a couple hundred at a time because the walk to hk, from revolucion, there's also chance of police stopping you, and going through your wallet, patting you down. ... you can get robbed any moment by anyone.[/QUOTE]I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?

[QUOTE=Lost99;2681301]I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?[/QUOTE]The Tijuana police can probably give the Thai boys in brown lessons. There is too much to tell in a single post, so spend some time RTFF-ing to find out more.

The cops don't need probably cause, at least as how it's defined in the States, to stop you. There are myriad reports of being stopped when DWG or WWG (driving while gringo or walking while gringo). They will do their very best to intimidate you. They will make up shit that you did, and try to intimidate you into caving and paying. They will search your person. They may demand you take off your shoes and pat down your socks. Yes, I have personal experience. They will tell you that you blew a stop sign, or that they think you have drugs on you, or that you have Viagra, or that you have porn on your phone.

When stopped it is imperative that you keep your cool. Also, take your money and hold it in your hand. That indicates somebody who has been around this Bush a few times. They have no right to handle your money. If you are not fluent in Spanish, act like you don't understand and only speak English. That sometimes puts them a bit on the defensive.

My philosophy is that I only carry pesos, and a few USD. If you must give a mordida, usually 200 pesos will suffice, especially if you've done nothing wrong. If you stand your ground and refuse to cooperate they will often leave you alone. But you have to decide whether or not your time is worth $10 dollars, or not. Cops would much rather shake down a gringo who has a pocketful of Benjamins than one with a pocketful of 100 and 200 peso notes. So, pretend like your dollars are worthless and uses pesos. It's hard for a noob, but it usually is beneficial. You don't use dollars in Thailand or Cambodia, you shouldn't use them in Mexico. I'll probably get flamed for that.

I was shaken down, years ago, when I didn't fully understand the process, for $20. Somewhat more recently I paid 200 p due to a semi-illegal left turn in Mexicali, 200 p to cut short the process and avoid an alcoholmetro on Agua Caliente, 0 p on a late night traffic stop, and 500 p (didn't have anything smaller) when pulling out of a motel one night.

[QUOTE=Lost99;2681068]Howdy gents,

As the title eludes, I'm planning my first trip to Tijuana Solo shortly in May or June. Very seasoned monger, however primarily in Asia where it much safer. Read through the threads and generally know what to expect and answers but would appreciate your comments as well.

1. How much cash would you risk carry to Tijuana?

2. What hours should I avoid walking alone?

3. Do they have International ATMs that permit Canadian debit / credit cards? I believe it is the cirrus network.

4. I'm planning 6/7 days, since I'm flying in from Canada. Do you think that is too much and I'll get bored of strip club and brothel solo?

5. Is there a way to safely meet like minded visitors while in Tijuana? So I don't need to drink alone all week.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.

[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2682243]Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.[/QUOTE]And if any waiter tells you he has to go get change for your $20, the cocksucker is lying and thinks that you are a moron and dumber than shit, because every single waiter has a giant wad of $1 bill in his pocket. If any waiter tells you he has to go get change, tell the fucker to go get the change and you will give him your $20 when he comes back.

Now if you fuck it up and forget because some chica has her tits in your face, and the cocksucker has ran off with your change, look at the ficha ticket that he gave the chica for her drink. It has his cock sucking employee number on it. Take the number to the manager and ask the manager why he is conspiring with the waiter to rip you off.

[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2682243]Always make sure that the waiters give you the correct change. Not really a problem in the bars like HK, Chicago or Adelitas. It has always been a major problem for me in Bar Tropical. And, if you are planning to go to Bar Tropical, do not order any drink other than a beer. And do not allow them to open your beer until they do it in front of you. I have been the victim of the date drug (a rufee) on two different occasions. Both times I was literally knocked out for about 15 hours with money stolen from me. Don't walk around like the typical tourist. Act like you live there and exude confidence in your gait and demeanor.[/QUOTE]Tropical is also owned by HK. Not sure how you got drugged unless it was a chica that slipped you something. Maybe flashing a lot of cash? It is a rather boring club, but can find some hot chicas every once in a while.

Sunday Bust Day again yesterday. Just set foot in Tijuana when I saw Army and NG squads actually busting dealers without cops. I guess they can do that independently down in Tijuana. I walk up to the alley and three cop cars were pinning three dealers around Bar Valentina. One of the dealers was faster than shit and ran right into Cascadas who every one knows is a labyrinth. I'm guessing he was a former employee. I saw the same exact dude out ran two cops about 4 weeks ago and disappeared up Cascadas. The Rams should sign the dude. An hour later, I see another major bust by multiple cop cars a couple of blocks East of HK on Coahuila Blvd. Sunday is like round-them-up day for the Zona Norte.

[QUOTE=Lost99;2681301]I know the police are corrupt there (Dealt with that in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.) but how can the police Rob me or coax a bribe out of me if I'm clean, not carrying anything illegal and done nothing wrong? Can they detain foreigners for no reason whatsoever?

In 3rd world Asian countries the Police can only hassle you if you did something wrong (even jaywalk or not carrying proper ID as a foreigner) and try to coax maybe a $20 bribe to 'speed up' the process. However if you stand pat you can pay with nothing except your wasted time. What is the typical Police bribe in Tijuana for convenience if they try hassle you for no reason?[/QUOTE]Policia in Mexico are not same occupation as police in USA. Mexico policia is equivalent to a bar security doorman. They can do whatever they want. People are complaining in beach communities now about it as its spread. In Tijuana its normal for police to empty your wallet, even at times I've seen on the news "the cop said sorry my kids need x mass presents go back to USA now don't come back here's 20 dollars of your 10 k for some gas money".

[QUOTE=KBToys;2682301]Tropical is also owned by HK. Not sure how you got drugged unless it was a chica that slipped you something. Maybe flashing a lot of cash? It is a rather boring club, but can find some hot chicas every once in a while.[/QUOTE]I dated the infamous Yamilet from Tropical. It very well could have been her on one occasion but the other time she wasn't there. The first time it happened, I remember getting hauled into a taxi by several waiters and Yamilet at around 10 pm. Woke up the next afternoon at 4 pm in her apartment next to her. She told me that the waiters there have rufeed several dudes. Especially those that are drunk or treat the women like crap and then rifle through their pants to steal money.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2682409]Policia in Mexico are not same occupation as police in USA. Mexico policia is equivalent to a bar security doorman. They can do whatever they want. People are complaining in beach communities now about it as its spread. In Tijuana its normal for police to empty your wallet, even at times I've seen on the news "the cop said sorry my kids need x mass presents go back to USA now don't come back here's 20 dollars of your 10 k for some gas money".[/QUOTE]The cops only "empty your wallet" if you let them. And I know of nobody who has had $10,000 taken from them. Nowhere even close to that amount. I know of nobody who is foolish enough to walk around the ZN with anywhere approaching that kind of money.

The bros should write many letters complaining about INM's shakedowns at the border and policias abusing, shaking down tourists. Also contact Mexico's consulate in San Diego and the press, make a big stink about these corrupt government employees.

File official complaints against specific individuals with details. Go to Sindicatura in Zona Rio near hotel Pueblo Amigo to press charges.

Don't let the stupid monkeys bully and take advantage of you:

Mayor Arturo González Cruz.

Palacio Municipal.

De La Independencia No. 1350, Zona Urbana Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, be. See. , Mexico.

Polcia Chief Rafael Vázquez Hernández.

Calle uno norte why uno poniente s / and City. Industrial New Tijuana.

[URL]https://policia.tijuana.gob.mx/contacto.aspx[/URL]

SSPCM.

Secretary of Security and Municipal Citizen Protection.

Blvd Cuauhtémoc Sur why Río Suchiate #2141 Colonia Marron.

Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico.

He's the chief city attorney responsible to investigate all government employees' conducts. Complain to him via email or letter with with specifics and details.

Lic. Alfonso Rafael Leyva Perez.

Email: [EMAIL]rafael.leyva@sindicatura.gob.mx[/EMAIL].

Blvd. Independencia 1350, Zona Urbana.

Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, be. See.

[URL]http://www.sindicatura.gob.mx/[/URL]#/ default.

[EMAIL]Quejas.spm@sindicaturatijuana.gob.mx[/EMAIL]

Lic. Alfonso Rafael Leyva Perez.

Email: * [EMAIL]rafael.leyva@sindicatura.gob.mx[/EMAIL].

Blvd. Independencia 1350, Zona Urbana.

Rio Tijuana, 22320 Tijuana, b. c.

Dear Sr. Perez,

Too often and too many times my friends, visitors and I have been stopped*by Municipal Policias, wrongfully*accused of violations, threatened and demanded bribes when we never violated any laws.

Specifically on Sunday April 3 at about midnight, I was stopped by 2 policias in their patrol car (I have #)* on Ave Constitucion near the border, harassed, threatened, taken to the policia*station, shaken down and robbed of all my money by 2 policias.

My friends and other*visitors have been threatened and robbed by policias*many times in the last few months. * There must be many more unreported incidents. ** It looks obvious that Tijuan's policias are not preventing or prosecution*criminals but are spending all their time on the job shaking down visitors.

There have been many complaints that make Tijuana famous with*corrupt policias and rampant crimes. I wish to make sure policias pursue criminals*and not abusing*visitors. *.

Estimado Sr. Pérez,

Con demasiada frecuencia, mis amigos, visitantes y yo hemos sido detenidos por la policía municipal, acusados injustamente de violaciones, amenazadosy exigidos sobornos cuando nunca violamos ninguna ley.

Específicamente el domingo 3 de abril a eso de la medianoche, fui detenido por 2 policías en su patrulla (tengo #) en la Avenida Constitucin cerca de la frontera, hostigados, amenazados, llevados a la estación de policía, golpeados y robados todo mi dinero por 2 policías. Mis amigos y otros visitantes han sido asaltados por policías muchas veces en los últimos meses. Debe haber muchos más incidentes no denunciados.

Parece obvio que los policías de Tijuana no están previniendo ni enjuiciando a los delincuentes, sino que pasan todo su tiempo en el trabajo sacudiendo a los visitantes.

Ha habido muchas denuncias que hacen famoso a Tijuana con policías corruptos y crímenes desenfrenados. Deseo asegurarme de que las policías persigan a los delincuentes y no abusen de los visitantes.

Lost his career for kissing and groping his sister-in-law. Gen. Cooley should have moved the Air Force Research Lab to Tijuana to really live his life and avoid this kinds of troubles.

Now you can guess what the thousands engineers and scientists in AFRL do all day.

[URL]https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/just-in-verdict-announced-in-court-martial-of-ex-afrl-commander/MR46PDESSBB57PJKZQWN5ZET3M/[/URL]

Verdict announced in court-martial of ex-AFRL commander.

Maj. Gen. William T. Cooley, ex-commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory, delivers remarks during the McCook Field Centennial ceremony in Dayton on Oct. 6, 2017. (USA Air Force photo by Wesley Farnsworth).

By Thomas Gnau April 23,2022.

Verdict comes in sixth day of trial over abusive sexual contact charge.

A military judge found Air Force Maj. Gen. William Cooley guilty of one charge of abusive sexual contact on the sixth day of an historic court-martial at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

Air Force Judge Col. Christina Jimenez deliberated for some five hours Friday before recessing for the day. The verdict was pronounced as soon as court opened Saturday morning.

The charge had three specifications involving how the two-star general was reported to have touched the complainant in the case — forcing his tongue in her mouth, forcing her hand to his genitals and pushing his hand between her legs and cupping her breast, according to an Air Force charge sheet.

The judge found Cooley guilty of the first specification and not guilty of the latter two.

A former commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL), Cooley was charged with abusive sexual contact in an encounter with his sister-in-law inside a Jeep when she gave him a ride after a family backyard barbecue in a New Mexico off-duty incident nearly four years ago.

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The victim in the case, the wife of Cooley's brother, is a civilian woman who is not a Department of Defense employee. Cooley's brother works for the Air Force in New Mexico as a civilian employee.

Cooley had faced loss of rank, pay and benefits and up to 21 months of confinement. And he may have to register as a sexual offender.

Now after Saturday's verdict, in terms of confinement, the maximum possible sentence is seven years per charge. An Air Force spokeswoman said Saturday that Cooley does not face loss of rank. It was not immediately clear Saturday what impact the conviction will have on Cooley's career.

This is the first time a court-martial of an Air Force general reached trial.

"Today marks the first time an Air Force general officer has been held responsible for his heinous actions," the victim in the case said in a statement from her personal attorney, Ryan Guilds.

"Sometimes family members are the abusers, abusers who count on silence in order to wield their extensive power."

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2689537]Lost his career for kissing and groping his sister-in-law. Gen. Cooley should have moved the Air Force Research Lab to Tijuana to really live his life and avoid this kinds of troubles.[/QUOTE]Captain,

I remember when I was in the Navy, there was this Sailor at Court Martial for apparently raping 2 girls at a party, he was facing 30 years to life if found guilty of these crimes. The verdict luckily was in his favor as they discovered it was all consensual and all three were drunk. The case was dismissed. It is shit like this and that first time felony in Texas for Solicitation that drives me to only monger in foreign countries where it is legal like Mexico. American is just to risky to even try this. I did visit a massage parlor back in the day in Eastern Washington, I had a nice time with a young sexy white girl, as she was a good fuck. Most of the US providers have been duds, and don't get me started on the strip clubs in America! We got to face it, Tijuana and Mexico is a pretty good deal for a mongers, sure beats a felony conviction.