Sorry, that number was 0506756881.
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Sorry, that number was 0506756881.
Be prepared to pay upto a 1000.
[QUOTE=Tony #1].
Any answers on the cis action and where the loveley cyclone and hyatt girls are at.[/QUOTE]
I think most of them are now working within the golden triangle:
York, Imperial suites and regal.
Amnesia and cyclone still closed. Hyatt probably still functioning
[QUOTE=Kokkos2]
I had same prob. For any STD test in the UAE they require positive ID. If you are a walk-in then passport or you can use your regular doctor.
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Just mention that both I and a mate have had STD tests in AUH and it has not required any ID. These were both walk in to hospitals and asking to see urologist. In both cases they asked if we had private healthcare, he didn't and I just said 'no', took phone numbers (my UAE number (very traceable*), friend had UK number only visiting) and money (200DH doctor and 200 tests I think) - the latter officially receipted not backhander! Friend said he had discharge and I said I wanted test as we both worked and shared same bathroom etc.
Story is just before Christmas my friend was out from the UK (yes, true...not me!!) had a discharge in last few days which turned out to be gonnoreah - caught from an AUH WG but we don't know which one (likely African by friends taste). I was worried as I had been around my friend for nearly 2 weeks working, playing etc. and in honesty I was scared I could have caught something. We didn't share girls as I had Miss X my GF but I did meet them, touch them (not genitals), give them lifts home etc. Anyway, we both went to hospitals to be tested, his positive, me negative. He was prescribed antibiotics covering gonorreah but also other STI's, Zithromax 4 capsules 1000mg taken together and something else over a week (no alcohol). I needed nothing. A few weeks later I went to UK and made sure I was checked out and proved negative all inc. HIV...I'm UK now and have done the same again for free whilst here. I don't think AUH hospitals routinely check HIV and they're testing isn't so scientifically advanced as the UK (or the west).
Anyway, shows that the hospitals are not always after passports etc. Maybe they only report if positive STI and as my friend a tourist maybe not so important. I'm sure they would report positive HIV.
I only knew one of the girls my friend went with, a PRC, had to discreetly tell her but she was working when I saw her and she was most offended I even suggested she may have problem! Now she understands and she has always said she never had anything. I know one of the Africans by sight (in 49) but I haven't said anything. As you may expect the WG's, certainly the PRC's have a network of 'doctors' and 'fixers' if they have any problems of any sort.
Incidentally, in STI clinic in UK poster proclaims that nearly 2/3rds of all HIV cases are associated with Africa(ns). I think it was 25% of people don't know that are HIV+.
* didn't know at the time STI's were reportable and the consequences
This going to be a long post, but here's the short summary;
1) AMP. New to punting, decided to start with MPs and 6 experiences later, the average in terms of looks 4, service. 5-6 varies.
2) Rating of clubs in terms of girls LOOKS (asians. Mainly prc, PI): York (L5-8) Rattlesnake (L4-8) Seaview (L4-7) Jokey's (L2-4) and Regal (L? )
Note: the above is only based on looks. Service varies widely as you can read below:
1) don't want to give out details of specific AMPs used, but all came from the "Gulf News" health section. (no specific order) Jumeirah 1: called and enquired about prices which were above the average, so expected good quality. No offense, but in terms of looks the girls were 3-4. Service was a 5.
Jumeirah 2: really seedy place. Girls were 2-4 in looks. The one I chose gave a good service about 7. Did everything I asked, except greek. No rushing. Asked me to come back again.
Deira 1: called in advance and prices were reasonable ("starts at 100 and varies by type of massage"), she gave the exact address straight away which was unusual. When I came to the place I realized it was a legit AMP, so they didn't need to hide their address. On my way to the room, I saw some pictures of nude Chinese girls (drawn pictures). The girls on the pictures were really pretty, the ones in AMP, 4-6. There was one cute and young girl with excellent english, but she appeared to be the owner's daughter so I didn't try anything funny. Could someone tell me if my impression is right and the place is legit or whether they do offer extras (I am not naming the place but if you've been there you will recognize description). Please PM me as I am still curious.
Deira 2: one of the better AMPs. Looks 5-7, a few girl-next-door type. Prices were above average 150 room, 300 fs. Bur Dubai 1: looks 3-5. Service was a 5 (BBBJ + cim) 100 room, 150 service.
Overall, I will not go to any of those any more. Maybe Deira 2, but it's as expensive as getting wg from a bar. The positive things about AMPs are: non-rushed, can be cheap if you negotiate right, always there. The negative things are: you never know what you gonna get.
Although if one RTFFs, veterans suggest leaving if you don't like what you see. I found it quite hard to do, given I am new to punting. Hard to describe what I feel, nonetheless, it's an option.
2)
Regal. Wasn't let in. (Sandals! ) this is a really strange requirement for me (don't tell me it's a filter to keep the locals out, last time I checked you didn't need a non-gcc passport to put on a pair of boots). Considering the heat and that most of these bars are definitely not top-notch, they should get rid of the no sandals/shorts requirement. National dress of course is another question.
Jokey's came on Thursday at around 12:40. A few good looking African ladies, one african stunner (8-9) that wasn't too exited talking to me, not sure why that was the case. Can confirm that African ladies are aggressive, lots of grabbing. However, my fetish is asian and in terms of asian girls it was very bad (L2-4). Can't comment on service as I didn't pull. Maybe it is that I came late, but from what I've seen it's a really small place with limited asian options, but again some good-looking africans.
Seaview, visited three times so can comment with some details. Good band, sexy backup singers/dancers, something really attractive about 4 PI girls with long hair in mini-skirts. Nearly got kicked out for asking a bouncer whether the singers were 'working' (OK, exaggerating, but he did look pissed and I am still not sure what happened), but was better on subsequent nights. A few cis girls, more prc, and surpising not that many PI. I think cis and pi were roughly in equal numbers.
PI girls were more reserved, I guess I was expected to approach as opposed to cis and prc which usually need only a smile or a wink. PR girls L4-7, some really thin with big rack but they looked a bit on the older side. PI were 5-6, which was disappointing as I wanted to try something new. Prices started 500 st 800 lt, from there depends on your skills.
Rattlesnake. Went twice, Thursday night is packed! Very hard to move around the bar. Some african lady started giving me shit when I asked her to move, again not sure why it happened. Anyway, they have a nice place outside with benches and tables where you can talk without the deafening music. THe band quality was a bit lower than that of Seaview. A lot of prc girls L4-8. Pries started 500 st and 1200 lt. (sampled only L6-8). Later (almost closing time) was re-approached by a cute prc and offered 500 lt. I regret telling her 300 lt, because she swore in Chinese/other asian language and left. She was quickly taken up by some other guy. On the way out there a live wall of prc/africans so if you are leaving at a closing time, prepare to be grabbed (unless you're with a wg).
My second time came early and pulled a PR girl, L7, thin and a big rak. Agreed on 500 lt + 200 for room (at some place she knows), of coures I pay taxi (about 70 dhs return trip. She lives far from rattle). It started off well, chat a bit. She's here for 4 months, from China, etc. Then good BJ, various positions but after about 15-20 minutes she starts urging me to come faster ("I already came twice, now you come! "). Well, it totally killed the mood and I found even harder to come. The she says, ok if I suck bbj you come? I said cim, but she said no. Anyway, 5-10 minutes of sucking and I can see she's really pissed. After that she said just jack off, and attempted to stroke my body, but seemed to be interested more on what was on the tv. Anyway, after some 45-50 mins after coming to this place she says I have to go and eat with my friends. "WTF? We agreed on 500 lt. " Her response was not intelligible, I think she forgot all English on purpose here. The only thing I could understand was next time 400 lt. Fuck yeah, I called her two times during the following week and guess what. She was busy.
York is the best I've seen in Dubai in terms of looks, but read carefully since same doesn't hold for service. Asian L5-8, wide selection from short to tall, from thin to fat. The number of spinners was small, alas. Anyway, approached agressively by prc but not by africans or cis (am I seeing some pattern here? ) Saw some PIs (TWO L5 and one L7) near the bar and pool table, but again they seem to want you to approach them.
Saw a really young prc girl (19-21yo), she seemed so lost and confused. Was approahed by other prc/asian girls, few of them spoke english but always had some 'translator' usually not as good looking. Got some numbers. Chose one thin girl with what seemed like a big rack and agreed on 500 lt + 250 hotel + taxi for her after. Including my taxi costs (50) total was about 850.
Anyway, we went to some shitty hotel in bur dubai, with 'walk of shame' experience both on the way in and out with about 3-4 indians/gcc, oggling and chatting between themselves. At least didn't have any LE problems there, still will think twice before going there again.
Once we're in the room had a shower (she didn't, so no DATY). When I come back she was undressed and had a very sexy body (shaved), though the extra skin on the belly suggested that she lost quite a bit of weight (I. E. Not thin by nature). Start off with covered BJ, no kissing allowed, no greek, no digits, no fiv, no cim or cof. After what seemed like a minute or two of cowgirl she says she's tired and I should come on top. Did doggy, but again found she was paying more interest to the tv program periodically making some 'oh fuck' sounds. Much like with the other girl, found it hard to come and then she starts rushing me. "My pussy hurts.come fast'. Again, I just jacked off. As I pull my condom, she jumps off and says she needs to shower. She takes her closes, comes back fully closed. I had no desire to argue, just made it clear that I was not happy because she broke the agreement (st. Less than 1 hr instead of lt). She said that her gf forgot the keys and she didn't know where the villa was, to which I said ' you don't need to make stuff up, if you want to go away now just say so but this is not what we agreed on'. She said she was very sorry and that she will call me next Thursday and give me 400 lt. (the Thursday didn't come yet, but something tells me I won't get anything).
Anyway, several days later I called one of the numbers I got from york. RTFF suggested that I might get a good response if I call on a non-peak hour and actually meeting the chick will establish some credibility. What a mistake it was. She started off with 500 st + 100 room. I said 300 + 100 tip if she's good, but she said no, only 400 + room. Should've noted that she doesn't want 'incentives'. This was by far the worst experience ever.
Met up with her on the street, then went rounds and rounds before getting to some place that was 50 metres away from where we started. In the place, she refused to take shower ("I just come from my home, take shower. "). WHen I come back she was naked, a very sexy body and a pretty face, but who knew what I would be getting. Some chat, and then shesays ok, lie down. I lie down and she asks "where is your condom?"
"Wtf??"
"you don't have condom?"
"No!"
She smiles and I am thinking she is pulling my leg, so I laugh. THen she says:
" Sorry i don't have condom"
"Wtf?"
'I thought you had condom"
I say, OK' give me bbj'
she says "no suck."
"Well then get a condom."
She looks pissed and leaves and comebacks with a condom (one only, which was ok for st I guess). Anyway, she puts it on and gets into cowgrl. After some 10-15 movements up and down (1-2 minutes? ), she says ' you get on top'. I quietly curse, but then thought she was hot so maybe I will come in her. When I try to get into her, it's nearly impossible as she's dry. So dry in fact! Anyway, I ask her for lubricant, she seems to have no idea of what I am talking about. Several wasted minutes later I just bring some water from the shower, wet her pussy, and start fucking her. I am not exaggerating here, literally two-three minutes later she says it hurts, let's change position. I say ok. Doggy. '"I don't know doggy? "
LOL, of coures you don't. Anyway, the view was amazing. She did have a very hot body (and a pretty face). And I was enjoying myself, and when I slowed down to wind up my breath, she asks "you finish? "
"no"
'why? "
Then she jumps off the bed and looking very pissy she starts saying that her boss is going to come here any minute and I don't want to be meeting him. This was way too bad. (not the prospet of meeting her boss, which I doubt was real. And even then, I can stand up for myself) but the service was horrible.
At that point, I just dressed and when I was about to leave she says "next time maybe you try my friend? ". What do you say to that? ! Cost 400 for less than 1 hr (35-40 mins) + 100 room + 50 return taxi
To the noobs I guess my message is: the scene in dubai might be good if you can finish fast or if you've got a place that chicks want to stay in. And be prepared for really dry sex or buy lube.
For me, some 8000 AED (! ) later there is nothing but a big disappointment. What I really wanted was a good gfe. But got none of that.
Didn't get even to do some 'porn' movie stuff, again prc girls are reluctant to go greek, cof, cim, rimming.
Older members, will probably tell that I was just plain unlucky but I think they have seen Dubai at a different time and now things have changed.
Ps: to those in the forum that claim paying in advance 'establishes' credibility, I paid in advance everytime.
[QUOTE=Dubai Monger]What do you recommend for some quick daytime action.[/QUOTE]Reading, as in how about searching this thread for "daytime", then reading the returned results [note: the search term is highlighted in red].
Looks like several of yesterday's posts were deleted due to a software glitch - including Crypton's post, and Razzor's nice pictorial. Ah well, who reads nowadays anyway. ;) I'll post a pictorial in the photos section soon. You won't believe who came to visit.
Oops - looks like the software glitch won't allow photos to upload (I've tried a few times). Maybe later.
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Regarding HIV tests, until recently, you would be instantly reported and deported if HIV+ I've read reports that you can now get self-tests on prescription. There was also publicity about anonymous HIV testing a few months ago, but I don't know if it's still the case.
[color=purple]Piper, I noticed the same, plus everytime I click on my UserCP link it goes to the "The forum database is currently being backed up and should return to normal service within 5 minutes" link. I've worked a work around, but what happened?
RaZZorR[/color][QUOTE=Piper1]Looks like several of yesterday's posts were deleted due to a software glitch - including Crypton's post, and Razzor's nice pictorial. Ah well, who reads nowadays anyway. ;) I'll post a pictorial in the photos section soon. You won't believe who came to visit.
Oops - looks like the software glitch won't allow photos to upload (I've tried a few times). Maybe later.
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Regarding HIV tests, until recently, you would be instantly reported and deported if HIV+ I've read reports that you can now get self-tests on prescription. There was also publicity about anonymous HIV testing a few months ago, but I don't know if it's still the case.[/QUOTE]
Mate, thanks for the effort, sad to read of your somewhat disappointing experience in Dubai. Your post is invaluable to someone such as myself, serving as a reminder in fact. I have yet to make my first excursion to this part of the globe.
On reading the postings of the past several months i`m starting to see similarities between Dubai and Amsterdam. Namely, "the dead fish experience", which brings me to my point. The golden rule, with which i always apply having learnt from experience over the years.
That being:
If the chick does not show any enthusiasm, the body language is poor, and lacks the desire to render any service of quality beforehand, then simply i give her a miss. One`s general experience comes into play here, not that i`m accusing you of lacking in this department. The read informs me, the chickies saw you from afar and played you accordingly.
I`m hoping i can sniff the poor chicks out when making my play in Dubai. The big head has to overrule the small head.
Tuesday night: I called the shy Miss Hong Kong home, as I wanted a serene night of soapy showers, long lotion massages, good sex and no drama. It all happened as planned. Very serene.
Too serene, so I dropped her at Rattlesnake after two hours, and went back home dissatisfied. I thought about who I could call that would be more exciting. Rabbit Killer fits the bill, so I called her, and 30 minutes later she was at my place (I didn't need to give directions :D). Despite her desperation last week, she's good fun in and out of bed as usual. She will be a regular.
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Wednesday night: I went to Alamo with a work pal, mainly for a quiet drink and some hearty food. Very quiet there as usual, with about 12 girls and only about six guys. I was tempted by my old fave Indianesque Miss Madagascar, who I first met at York over four years ago. I've taken her many times in the past, and she's more like an old friend now. She was sitting with a cute Russian girl, so my work pal sensibly suggested we make an arrangement with the two of them. We had a great night of laughs and sex. I just took Miss Madagascar to a cab, and my work pal is still in my guest room with his cute Russian. After two girls last night, one session was enough for me tonight.
[QUOTE=Noddy]On reading the postings of the past several months i`m starting to see similarities between Dubai and Amsterdam. Namely, "the dead fish experience.[/QUOTE]I would say Dubai is 1,000 times better than Amsterdam. The girls in the clubs here don't bang all day by the half-hour as in Amsterdam, and some girls are actually looking for a supportive 'boyfriend/regular customer' or three, so they give a good time accordingly.
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[QUOTE=Farang07] Older members, will probably tell that I was just plain unlucky ... [/QUOTE]Well, I guess that includes the young me. ;)
[QUOTE=Farang07] ... but I think they have seen Dubai at a different time and now things have changed. [/QUOTE] The more things change, the more they stay the same. The only difference I've seen in Dubai in the past year is that there are less CIS cuties than in the past.
Sorry to hear of your bad experiences. We've all had the same sometimes. Just part of the adventure. Here's a few tips for next time:
Rule Number 1: Avoid AMPs, which are 'in-out' factories (like Amsterdam window girls or brothels).
Rule Number 2: Even if the chemistry is not going as nicely as you like, just relax, enjoy the experience, and laugh it off. If you relax, the girl will relax too, and you'll both have a better time.
Rule Number 3: Don't always follow the rules. It really comes down to you, the girl, luck, the timing, and both your attitudes.
Greetings all!
Having been recently introduced to this site by a friend and fellow habitual Bur Dubai tourist, I have spent many happy hours trawling through recent and archived posts (after taking the first two days to work out what all the acronyms stood for - I'm sure there was a post somewhere explaining them but haven't got back that far yet!).
First thing I'd like to say is that some of the senior members in this thread could write for The Times (Piper, 11Bravo, Wicked Roger and Double Shooter spring to mind - no offense to those not mentioned). Eloquent and downright hilarious in places; very little work done this week as a result.
Secondly, I must point out upfront that I am more of a 'view from afar' player than an actual monger, somewhat like BarCrawler if I read him right. But given the number of times I frequent most of the bars mentioned I hope my ensuing reports can be of some interest.
Now to the meat and potatoes...regulars to this auspicious venue will be pleased to know that the Seaview Band WILL be returning after Ramadan - the best live band in Dubai by a country mile, whether filipino or any other nationality.
I am surprised that there is no mention of the relatively new bar at the Chelsea Hotel, namely Tiya Maria. Those blessed with an affinity for PIs should definitely check it out, especially if they are enroute to the Seaview to enjoy the Band as well as the secondary attractions. Filipino bar with a ratio of perhaps 50:50 civilians to wgs, but the other attraction is a six piece all girl rock band, who, whilst not by any means at the same level as their counterparts at the Seaview, are pretty damn good and considerably better than anything the Music Room has to offer. Also, unusually for a Filipino Bar its really quite smart - definitely an alternative location for a BYO evening.
Other points of interest to ISG denizens - Amnesia will reopen after Ramadan. Given who its owned by this is hardly surprising, but word has it that even his influence could not get it back earlier. The jury is still out on Cyclone - I guess a wg stabbing a punter will do that to your reputation, but rumours suggest that their could either be a change of ownership keeping the theme the same, or that the entire place might be remodeled into a non-wg environment - watch this space.
As for door policy at the Seaview (recent thread), they very nearly went the same way as Cyclone and Amnesia, especially after many of the Cyclone PRCs started turning up and causing trouble. Policy (as directed by CID) until after Ramadan is that CSIs and PIs have total access, PRCs are to be kept to a small number, and Africans are not allowed, except when accompanied - this being due to an ongoing fued between some of the new African girls and the regular PRCs, which at one stage resulted in an all out brawl in the Ladies.
Rumours also persist that there are undercover CID operating in the Moscow hotel, offering 'additives' to unwary tourists. Whilst I am sure that all here are aware of the stupidity of even contemplating the use of such 'powders' in this country, and I am also pretty certain that the focus of these operations is on foolhardy CIS men who don't know any better, its something to keep in mind.
Anyway, all for now - hope I don't get flamed too much (as other Newbies seem to have been on occasion) - look forward to trying to identify some of you when out and about.
FIRST AND FOREMOST: GREAT FR - fun read. THANKS for taking the time to write. If only more new-to-dxb would do so.
[quote=Farang07]Wasn't let in. (Sandals! ) this is a really strange requirement for me (don't tell me it's a filter to keep the locals out, last time I checked you didn't need a non-gcc passport to put on a pair of boots). Considering the heat and that most of these bars are definitely not top-notch, they should get rid of the no sandals[/quote]BROTHER! As for keeping out the locals: do locals have anything but sandals? If they're going to ban something, it should be the hip-hop + bling outfits, topped off by a baseball cap turned sideways...
[quote=Farang07]Jokey's came on Thursday at around 12:40. A few good looking African ladies, one african stunner (8-9) that wasn't too exited talking to me, not sure why that was the case.[/quote]What? Take her out and have her flogged... Seriously, I always look at it as they are doing me a FAVOR: No interest in the bar a true indication of the type of service that would follow (read Noddy).
[quote=Farang07]Maybe it is that I came late, but from what I've seen it's a really small place with limited asian options, but again some good-looking africans.[/quote]Think the key is, "came late". Jockey's is more an assembly area, before the girls sortie out to their [i]offices[/i]... looking to score the late afternoon, early evening ST (or LT). But it is a small bar, certainly. Also good place to meet up with your friends as it's small enough to easily spot someone.
[quote=Farang07]Rattlesnake. Went twice, Thursday night is packed! Very hard to move around the bar.[/quote]Describes most places on a Thursday night. But the 'Snake's poor physical layout certainly doesn't help.
[quote=Farang07]Some african lady started giving me shit when I asked her to move, again not sure why it happened.[/quote]It's like real estate: location, location, location. Girls will fight for a prime location.
[quote=Farang07]Anyway, they have a nice place outside with benches and tables where you can talk without the deafening music.[/quote]Along with the stifling heat and humidity...
[quote=Farang07]THe band quality was a bit lower than that of Seaview.[/quote]A bit?!?!? The Rock Spiders at the Music Room are a bit lower; the 'Snake band is different world.
[quote=Farang07]Later (almost closing time) was re-approached by a cute prc and offered 500 lt. I regret telling her 300 lt, because she swore in Chinese/other asian language and left. She was quickly taken up by some other guy.[/quote]If you don't, another will.
[quote=Farang07]Saw some PIs (TWO L5 and one L7) near the bar and pool table, but again they seem to want you to approach them.[/quote]Yes, up to you to make the 1st move.
[quote=Farang07]Saw a really young prc girl (19-21yo), she seemed so lost and confused.[/quote]Yes, when I see the same, I wonder if she REALLY knew what she was letting herself in for. Very difficult to solicit business without at least some english.
[quote=Farang07]Anyway, we went to some shitty hotel in bur dubai, with 'walk of shame' experience both on the way in and out with about 3-4 indians/gcc, oggling and chatting between themselves.[/quote]So the Dallas is still open :) Look on the bright side: you gave the [i]pajama boys[/i] something to go home and whack off to, their fantasizing about being with your girl.
[quote=Farang07]... covered BJ, no kissing allowed, no greek, no digits, no fiv, no cim or cof.[/quote]Might be a "downer" to the [i]romance[/i], but if ANY menu item is important TO YOU, best to discuss while IN THE BAR.
[quote=Farang07]...she was paying more interest to the tv program [/quote]And WHY was the TV ON?
[quote=Farang07](the Thursday didn't come yet, but something tells me I won't get anything).[/quote]The runaround? :)
[quote=Farang07]Anyway, several days later I called one of the numbers I got from york. RTFF suggested that I might get a good response if I call on a non-peak hour and actually meeting the chick will establish some credibility. What a mistake it was. She started off with 500 st + 100 room. I said 300 + 100 tip if she's good, but she said no, only 400 + room. Should've noted that she doesn't want 'incentives'.[/quote]The 300+100 a valid offer; when she declined, I'd move on (as in following YOUR instincts - isn't hindsight wonderful?)
[quote=Farang07]Met up with her on the street, then went rounds and rounds before getting to some place that was 50 metres away from where we started.[/quote]Obviously SHE was not very familiar with the place...
[quote=Farang07]she asks "where is your condom?" ... "Wtf??" "you don't have condom?" "No!"[/quote]NEVER assume she will have. Yes, a lot of girls carry (especially in the bra, as if they are stopped by LE, condoms ARE a problem). So, like a good boy scout, YOU want to be PREPARED...
[quote=Farang07]At that point, I just dressed and when I was about to leave she says "next time maybe you try my friend? ". What do you say to that? ![/quote]"Got a picture" comes to mind. Along with, "Does she kiss, do bbbj/cim, provide GOOD service?" :)
[quote=Farang07]Didn't get even to do some 'porn' movie stuff, again prc girls are reluctant to go greek, cof, cim, rimming.[/quote]Greek yes. Myself, not into rimming so if they head [i]south[/i], I tell them to concentrate on the flag pole... But cof, cim? Might not ALWAYS happen, but more standard than not. And like I said, if something is important, ask!
[quote=Farang07]Older members, will probably tell that I was just plain unlucky but I think they have seen Dubai at a different time and now things have changed.[/quote]No, I don't think things have changed THAT much. Certainly 500 doesn't get you the Cyclonettes like it once did, but still, some VERY NICE [i]company[/i] can be [i]rented[/i] all night for that. (I agree with 50/50's price post of awhile back). The CIA knows me as Mr. 500, but that cuts BOTH ways. I won't go over 500 (well, normally; special case, top is 600), but I also won't bargain down to 400. 100 dhs not worth MY time or effort these days. 100 dhs = 4 beers, and I can have MUCH more fun with the girl... :) And I don't pop a chubby because I saved 100 dhs.
[quote=Farang07]Ps: to those in the forum that claim paying in advance 'establishes' credibility, I paid in advance everytime.[/quote]Actually, I think "pay in advance" marks you as more of a rube. A girl asking for 'pay before' just about guarantees the "danger will robinson" alert. Now a non-white much more likely to be asked, but that's just statistics: higher probability of [i]problems[/i]... The actions of your compatriots DO reflect on you (girls see nations, not individuals).
[quote=Farang07]To the noobs I guess my message is: the scene in dubai might be good if you can finish fast or if you've got a place that chicks want to stay in. And be prepared for really dry sex or buy lube.
For me, some 8000 AED (! ) later there is nothing but a big disappointment. What I really wanted was a good gfe. But got none of that.[/quote]Some constructive (I hope) suggestions:
If you're going to spend 8000 AED on [i]entertainment[/i], then allocate some of that for a NICE, GF'ly hotel. Some place where you can BOTH relax and be comfortable. It seems you always had to ask HER for a room. The rooms they know are "business oriented".
It's not about finishing fast or dry sex, but there IS a correlation there. If SHE'S not having fun, then ... You expect her to be happy you're banging away for an hour while she's bored to death? Reverse the situation: aren't there some of your meetings where they are fun, time passes quickly, you kind of hate to see them break up because it's back to the grind? And others where, after 5 minutes, you want to get out a rope and hang yourself, thinking "I don't care how much they're paying me, it's NOT worth it." Why should she be different?
If she doesn't get naturally lubed, I am disappointed and I don't expect it to be a GFE. Yes, it is a BUSINESS, and she is getting paid, but... A little foreplay goes a LONG way; seems a lot of customers are of the "bend over and brace" type.
So, a comfortable environment, some "wise" pulling based on her attitude in the bar, and some time to relax and get comfortable (why I prefer LT) before heading to the bedroom for some MUTUAL enjoyment... I don't think it's that difficult to find a GFE.
[quote=Noddy]The read informs me, the chickies saw you from afar and played you accordingly.[/quote]Agree, they had Farang07 pegged. I too follow the same rule. She might be a stunner, but looks have to come with a good attitude; a bit of looking, not difficult to find here (unless you're of the "I want [u]THE[/u] HOTTEST" variety, in which case you most likely will be disappointed - as if there's only 1).
[quote=Piper1]The girls in the clubs here don't bang all day by the half-hour as in Amsterdam, and some girls are actually looking for a supportive 'boyfriend/regular customer' or three, so they give a good time accordingly.[/quote]Again, agree. One of my favs has enough regulars (call me 'Avis' - I'm number 2) that she rarely has to venture to the bars anymore. Fun company, and good service, but it DOES take TWO.
[QUOTE=Piper1]I would say Dubai is 1,000 times better than Amsterdam. The girls in the clubs here don't bang all day by the half-hour as in Amsterdam, and some girls are actually looking for a supportive 'boyfriend/regular customer' or three, so they give a good time accordingly.[/QUOTE]
Mate, thanks for the confirmation to my contrary belief. Dubai sounds terrific although the supportive end we`ll have to do our utmost to avoid. From my African travels i already have way too many cling-on`s. Got several of them still tinkling me today and i`m talking two years on.
Thanks to yourself and 11Bravo for the informative input, much time and effort you mates make. Hopefully we are on target for a trip in the new year, too much workload for the remainder of this year. Of course, there is another trip to Kenya next month, looking forward to that.
Dubai looks good. Mate, does it look good.....
[QUOTE=Jenas] Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name ...[/QUOTE]Is it 'Jenas'? ;)
Nice report, with some excellent info from a new contributor (but obviously not a new Dubai player).
[QUOTE=Jenas]I am surprised that there is no mention of the relatively new bar at the Chelsea Hotel, namely Tiya Maria. ...Filipino bar with a ratio of perhaps 50:50 civilians to wgs ...[/QUOTE]I'm always looking for somewhere new, so this place is on my list now. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jenas]Other points of interest to ISG denizens - Amnesia will reopen after Ramadan... [/QUOTE]I've heard that also. Since it's near my office, I hope it does re-open. From memory, the entry fee was 150 DH on weekends, so I hope they revise that policy, otherwise it's back to my old strategy of playing pool next door at Finnegans until nearly closing time, then picking up one of the many girls waiting outside for a taxi, thereby saving me the entry fee, and getting 'closing time' specials. The Amnesia girls rarely go for less than 1,000-1,500, mainly due to rich Arab clientele in there. I've managed a few 500LTs, and incredibly, even a 300ST from a stunner (not because of my good looks and charm, but because she needed a place to stay a few hours before heading to the airport in the morning for a visa run. Wild service, including asking me to give her anal. I obliged).
[QUOTE=Jenas]As for door policy at the Seaview (recent thread), they very nearly went the same way as Cyclone and Amnesia, especially after many of the Cyclone PRCs started turning up and causing trouble. [/QUOTE]LOL, and I thought the CIS and Africans were supposed to be the trouble-makers, while the PRC were little angels. ;)
[QUOTE=Jenas]Rumours also persist that there are undercover CID operating in the Moscow hotel, offering 'additives' to unwary tourists. [/QUOTE]It can happen. I was once offered a joint by a local guy who I'd been playing pool with. I said no thanks. He kept insisting. I kept insisting no thanks. Found out later he's CID.
[QUOTE=Jenas] hope I don't get flamed too much ... [/QUOTE]Why expect flames? Excellent report with good info. Besides, we have Sympathy for the Devil. ;)
Headed to the Music Room at around 1 am. 80M:20F ratio. Place packed WG mostly african, few PRC's did not spot any CIS.
Filipino band ok, and the lights are not totally off, so you can actually see "who is who", a positive point for me at least.
Moved to Imperial suites at 2 am. Again packed. I would say another 80:20 ratio. Africans, and PRC's mainly. I did spot few girls probably from Turkey or armenia.
Then ended up at Panorama.at 2:30 Same scene, except a little bit more of CIS flavor.
Surprisingly, in the three clubs I did not find any girl that could be rated over a 3-4 over a ten scale. Really disappointing!!
Had they been all pulled away by that time?? or is it a more and more degrading quality of girls available?
Last week's visit to Regal revealed the presence of some nicer girls mostly CIS.
I have been in Dubai since 1999 and I can confirm that the quality available then has nothing to do with what I have seen recently here.
Beauty has become the exception unfortunately....