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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1822500]Let's see: do I want to spend my time and money in a bar that charges more for drinks than any other bar on Soi 4 and does not allow barfines or any real interaction with its bar girls? Its a tough question and I know I will have to make up my mind pretty soon because I do not expect Nana Hooters to last a year. Which reminds me, before Nana there was a Makati Hooters. It went out of business last year. Quelle surprise! What were they thinking?[/QUOTE]Let's hope the legion of FL WG discovers Hooters quickly and ply their trade from there. Like a "new Beer Garten" place.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1822500]Let's see: do I want to spend my time and money in a bar that charges more for drinks than any other bar on Soi 4 and does not allow barfines or any real interaction with its bar girls? Its a tough question and I know I will have to make up my mind pretty soon because I do not expect Nana Hooters to last a year. Which reminds me, before Nana there was a Makati Hooters. It went out of business last year. Quelle surprise! What were they thinking?[/QUOTE]Amen. I was a bit horrified to see that Hooters replaced Golden.
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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1822500]Let's see: do I want to spend my time and money in a bar that charges more for drinks than any other bar on Soi 4 and does not allow barfines or any real interaction with its bar girls? Its a tough question and I know I will have to make up my mind pretty soon because I do not expect Nana Hooters to last a year. Which reminds me, before Nana there was a Makati Hooters. It went out of business last year. Quelle surprise! What were they thinking?[/QUOTE]Given I have only been in a Hooters once in my life, I may not have much standing to comment on whether this one is going to succeed. But if I am correct they serve food, I suppose it is possible. I have been amazed at the number of westerners, perhaps most particularly Americans (although this conclusion may reflect that I know more Americans than other westerners), who restrict themselves to places like McDonalds, KFC or other places they can find at home for all their eating needs while overseas. Won't even touch anything unfamiliar or from unfamiliar places. Perhaps such people will frequent the Hooters for food, while at the same time buying some drinks. I doubt though whether there will be many hanging out there long just drinking.
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[QUOTE=Stykler;1822529]I congratulate you on your commonsense approach.
There needs to be more of it and less western rhetoric on these pages sometimes. If people want things to be the same in a foreign land as it is in their home town maybe they should stay there.[/QUOTE]Good.
This is the most important tip off all. Everyone should adjust your behavioir to suit Thai social values, at least the good ones.
For me the biggest thing to learm was to maintain Thai levels of politeness where I am naturally a little anti-social, impatient, and contemptuous. Americans are generally very polite and generous so they adjust more easily.
Foul language and disrespect is a particularly noticable fault from some countries, e. G. England lower classes high use of the F and C words loudly im public. Chinese tourists from China or Hong Kong tend to be totally bereft of politeness. Just generalising from observations. Thais will generalise too. Everyone has a chance to be different by adjusting there own behavior.
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Recent BKK!
Was in Bangkok two weeks back! Went to Crazy house, Baccara and Suzie Wong!
1. Crazy House. Being and Indian, the guy stopped me at entry. But I know how to get in and got in with a bang! Packed, totally packed with people. Not even enough space to breath! Saw the lineup and maybe I am the weird one, was just left wondering why is it packed! I didn't like any girls. Maybe I moved out too fast as I had only one night to stay in BKK, so didn't intend to waste my time.
2. Went to Baccara. Met Patrick!! The guy at the door who doesn't allow my countrymen in! Yes, he is a friend and I always get some great treatment at Baccara. But didn't bother to wait long as I wanted to see Suzie wong.
3. Suzie Wong. Got in. There was some show on!! They have good shows!! Anyways spent an hour out there. Bought a couple of drinks for a hottie with fake boobs and braces! But she looked exceptionally good with the be&be! Nice third be too (Booty) . Bought a couple of drinks for the mamasan too while I was there. Told the Mamasan to let the lady know, that she has to make me happy! Barfined. Went to the room. Exceptionally good attitude. Not really GFE but no cribbing on anything. Had some chit chat and started with DFK which went on quite long, didn't see the watch but it was quite some time. And yes. Try taking girls without braces, it does trouble!! Then got BBBJ making her sit on the chair and me standing the edges of the chair!! Yes, didn't use the bed as the mirror was on the side and I wanted to see that face in every angle suck me! Good blowjob! In fact the BBJ was better than Dr. BJ's which I just had a few hours ago! I don't go down on working girls but I think she wouldn't mind. So, no cunnilingus!! Then sex in missionary, doggy and finished in woman on top. After the deed she wasn't in a hurry! But was unwilling to stay all night!! Also, I thought why would I repeat when I am there for such a short time! Headed back to Suzie Wong dropped her, chilled for another hour and picked another girl!! Back to the room all good, I fingered the shit out of her pussy! She was moaning crazy, pure fun! Sex in all positions But I couldn't fucking cum! I guess 3rd session in short while might be the reason but I decided to enjoy the many views which you normally can't see! Banging in all hardcore fashion and felling the tip and tip of her body till I cum! But! Suddenly I realize there is blood on the condom (Outside)! I don't if its because of Banging hard, (she was tight real tight) or because of the fingering but I remember no blood on fingers for sure! Looking at blood I could not continue, thinking of safety, so I stopped the session!
Here I need your suggestions! Condom didn't tear! I checked by filling water to the fullest. Am I at risk? I washed up. She could not speak English, used Google translate on the phone and we communicated.
1. Asked her if she had periods. She said no.
2. Asked her if she has HIV. She said she tested 2 days ago and at the Bar everyone has to test every month. If not tested you don't get the salary (Is this true?).
3. I asked her then why is she bleeding. She told me in Thai which translated as. You tore my flesh that is why!
Anyways, got ready and dropped her back to Soi cowboy. Went to the room and slept!
Is it true that the top Bars get the girls tested regularly? Is it common that girls work in period or I just tore her flesh (Haha) . Should I be worried about health safety?
Ratings.
Girl 1 - 8/10 . Girl 2 - 8/10.
Service both - 8/10.
Barfine - 700 & 2 K for the girls each!
Experience. Too Good.
WIR. YES.
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Hooters
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1818381] It's right under Nana Hotel and it's quite big. [/QUOTE]What's the price of a bottle of beer vs the other bars in the area? Its location is prime seating for people watching. Forget about the food, tons of fantastic food carts all up and down that street.
Somewhat off topic question but I always wondered if there was another way into Nana than that one entrance on soi 4. There's just too many girls working in the gogo's for all of them to come in thru that one entrance.
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[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1822638]Here I need your suggestions! Condom didn't tear! I checked by filling water to the fullest. Am I at risk? I washed up. She could not speak English, used Google translate on the phone and we communicated.[/QUOTE]As long as the condom didn't tear and no blood got on you where your skin was damaged, you are not at risk for HIV.
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1822638]1. Asked her if she had periods. She said no.[/QUOTE]Interesting to note but not relevant.
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1822638]2. Asked her if she has HIV. She said she tested 2 days ago and at the Bar everyone has to test every month. If not tested you don't get the salary (Is this true?).[/QUOTE]There is no way to make sure if that story is real. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. I seem to remember to have read somewhere that in order to get a massage place or entertainment licence, the venue may only employ girls that are regularly tested. I have no idea if such a rule indeed exist and if so, whether it is actually enforced. Of course it wouldn't cost the bar a penny to require their girls to have regular tests and it would indeed show good business sense, but this is Thailand and their business sense may not always match mine.
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1822638]3. I asked her then why is she bleeding. She told me in Thai which translated as. You tore my flesh that is why![/QUOTE]That is entirely possible. To admonish you with the famous saying of another Member on this forum: "Did you make sure she was well lubricated?"
[QUOTE=LoverboyJerico;1822638]Is it true that the top Bars get the girls tested regularly? Is it common that girls work in period or I just tore her flesh (Haha) . Should I be worried about health safety?[/QUOTE]Top or bottom bars, as I said above you cannot be certain of their actual testing policy.
Girls will work anytime, on or off their period. They have ways of hiding their period (the famous sponge!) and you would not be any wiser most of the time.
Yes, you may have hurt her. These things happen.
Don't worry, unless infected blood gets inside your bloodstream you are not at risk.
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LBJ,
The lineup is better at CH generally if you like skinny girls. Perhaps you go for more voluptuous. Most Indians do. I would say SW has a lot more chubby girls and just a few slim ones.
No need to worry about that blood. Has happened to me plenty of times. It means she has an injury. With condom use, you won't catch anything.
Finger in pussy is more dangerous if you rubbed you eyes later before washing your hands. Caught Chlamydia red eye that way once many years ago.
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Frustrated viking
I am back in Bangkok but have not had much luck so far and too tired to go more than maybe once or twice every day. Last night I started out at Crazy House again just to get in the mood and had the seat next to the stair leading to the stage from where I had a nice view of all these lovelies ascending and descending from the stage in an interminable March of pussies, most shaved and a few just with a sprinkle of hair. Great seat! I do wish they did not all shave, but their bodies sure are enticing. Nice and firm all over with for the most part well-sculpted tits. With all these girls—surely 50 or so taking turns on stage—you just have to wonder how the place makes any money. I mean, most guys do not have more than a drink or two and, from what I could see, are not overly generous tippers. I called one girl down to fondle her as she stood in front of me offering her naked body to me and I did enjoy the feel of her pert tits and her firm ass. They are sure are beautiful to look at like this but I wonder if they are any good in the sack? They look like starfish to me, who just want to get the deed over with.
Later that evening I picked up this lovely 19-year old in the Nana Car Park (Mee or Mi) but the experience was not much to brag about. She was very pretty, to be sure, but I just could not perform despite more than a little help from my friend Kamagra. I wonder about those pills some time but perhaps it is just that I am overly tired being on the road for almost a month now. And these FLs have a way of killing the mood by insisting on showering without foreplay and then inspecting your cock every which way until your erection weakens. She let me go down on her for a good long time but she just lay there without any kind of reaction. Definitely a turn off. But she did give me a nice BBBJ and I suddenly could not hold back and came in her mouth. I warned her but she did not seem to care or maybe not understand because but when she felt my love juices inundate her mouth she was startled, gagged and coughed and spit in all directions. I was still only semi-erect and did not recuperate for several hours by which time I was too shagged out to go out looking for more pussy. She relieved me of 1200 baht, down from the 1500 baht they all seem to be asking these days. At least they all seem willing to negotiate, something I am usually reluctant to do because it creates bad vibes from the beginning. But they usually are the first to offer to go for less when they notice that I seem taken aback by the price.
This afternoon I picked up a slightly older FL in the car park but had a similar experience. I was hoping for a better time because older ladies general take better care of you and this one promised "I take care of you," the way I am used to. But alas no. She was in and out in about 30 minutes but, on the other hand, only cost me 1000 baht. Nice be-sized tits and a hairy pussy, just the way I like them. But again no reaction from her to my oral ministrations. So I saved my elixir for Pat at Kasalong or Ann at the other venue around the corner that cannot be mentioned by name. I am on my way there now and will keep you posted. I will be happy if she just lets me eat her out in the cubicle and finish in her mouth. After my lackluster performance I wonder if I should indulge in the expense of the upstairs room? I went upstairs once last year with Nam, who no longer works at Kasalong, and we had a good time, doing all the positions and me straddling her face to finish in her mouth. She had the most beautiful be-size + tits but was a just a little heavy around the waist. They do warm to me, however, so I take a certain satisfaction in that. Mind you, I am not ugly to look at, 6' 4" and only 190 lbs with more than just a little blond (well gray) hair on my head. At 70, I look at least ten years younger and normally can outperform myself, whatever that means.
In the old days I almost always had better luck in the Nana Car park and wonder if my fellow mongers have noticed a similar decline in the services rendered.
The blind girls were at it again last night but who would go with them? Pretty as they are they all communicate only by their phones, making it hard to engage in a little conversation beforehand and a bad omen for a good time. Has anyone here tried them?
Tonight is just beginning and I will keep you posted on my further adventures in the city that never sleeps.
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[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1822193] I have a different opinion about excessive tips given to bar girls and the like, because unlike a hard working honest taxi driver who is scraping by, they are for the most part making more money than they ever imagined, and really don't need more.[/QUOTE]There is also a rather consistent and clear across-the-board understanding of what "good" vs "bad" means with regard to a taxi ride. And for service in a restaurant for that matter. But what "good" or "bad" means to me with regard to carnal pleasures vs what other punters around the world and on these message boards consider "good" or "bad" is totally subjective. That's why I try not to promote the concept of giving an unexpected "tip" to a bargirl at the end of a sexual session as some kind of standard practice on message boards like these. If you do, then you are just as likely recommending that readers encourage "bad" service out there as "good". Possibly more likely.
To illustrate; I read field reports on these message boards where guys describe enduring a covered BJ for mere oral foreplay, are refused DFK, wind up finishing with something no better than a handjob, paid over 4,000 baht for it at some soapy and then conclude their field report by hailing the great GFE and PSE they got and how they cannot wait to return. Of course, they also gave the girl an unexpected "tip" afterwards because they had such a memorable experience and want to encourage and reward "good" service.
Punters like that and I are not on the same sheet of music when it comes to what constitutes "good" service vs "bad" service on these matters. Actually, we are not even in the same Concert Hall. Read a truly negative review of some experience with a go-go girl or beer bar girl and I assure you the last 4 times that girl got an unexpected "tip" of 300-500 baht from a customer, she gave them no better service than what that negative reviewer got. The last 3 guys who gave her 1000 baht tip might very well have just gotten WORSE service from her and then offered her a proposal of marriage!
So, there is no standard for which one could recommend the concept of tipping afterwards on message boards like these unless the tip is discussed ahead of time in the bar and is clearly applied to something more specific than her being "good". She is no mind-reader. She has no idea what you think is "good" service, particularly in light of the rave reviews I read and the, without doubt, sizable tips she has gotten from guys who got no better than mediocre service (in my mind) 100 times over before she met me. Something on the order of, "If you do this or that for me, I will give you more" would probably suffice, imo.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1823045]There is also a rather consistent and clear across-the-board understanding of what "good" vs "bad" means with regard to a taxi ride. And for service in a restaurant for that matter. But what "good" or "bad" means to me with regard to carnal pleasures vs what other punters around the world and on these message boards consider "good" or "bad" is totally subjective. That's why I try not to promote the concept of giving an unexpected "tip" to a bargirl at the end of a sexual session as some kind of standard practice on message boards like these. If you do, then you are just as likely recommending that readers encourage "bad" service out there as "good". Possibly more likely.
To illustrate; I read field reports on these message boards where guys describe enduring a covered BJ for mere oral foreplay, are refused DFK, wind up finishing with something no better than a handjob, paid over 4,000 baht for it at some soapy and then conclude their field report by hailing the great GFE and PSE they got and how they cannot wait to return. Of course, they also gave the girl an unexpected "tip" afterwards because they had such a memorable experience and want to encourage and reward "good" service.
Punters like that and I are not on the same sheet of music when it comes to what constitutes "good" service vs "bad" service on these matters. Actually, we are not even in the same Concert Hall. Read a truly negative review of some experience with a go-go girl or beer bar girl and I assure you the last 4 times that girl got an unexpected "tip" of 300-500 baht from a customer, she gave them no better service than what that negative reviewer got. The last 3 guys who gave her 1000 baht tip might very well have just gotten WORSE service from her and then offered her a proposal of marriage!
So, there is no standard for which one could recommend the concept of tipping afterwards on message boards like these unless the tip is discussed ahead of time in the bar and is clearly applied to something more specific than her being "good". She is no mind-reader. She has no idea what you think is "good" service, particularly in light of the rave reviews I read and the, without doubt, sizable tips she has gotten from guys who got no better than mediocre service (in my mind) 100 times over before she met me. Something on the order of, "If you do this or that for me, I will give you more" would probably suffice, imo.[/QUOTE]I hope you were drunk or something when writing this report. Reads pretty much exaggerated, emotional, and non sensible at times.
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Happy Viking
I can report that I accomplished the mission to bed Pat at Kasalong. I almost did not recognize her with her new hairdo a la Mickey Mouse. We settled into the corner cubicle, which has become like a home away from home for me during the month or so I spend in Thailand every year. Pat's tits are not much to cheer about but she has a good attitude and sucks a mean dick. Actually she seems very sweet and so I shouldn't talk like that. I was curious to see what her pussy looked like (she was on the rag the last time I stopped by) and must report that it is clean shaven. Sad to say, she must have lubed up before joining me in our cubicle because her pussy quite frankly was not that tasty and kind of rubbery. Rather reminds me of the Hausmadchen in the Erlebniswohnung in Berlin. They love to suck and fuck but their pussies taste like something out of a pharmacy. You know what I mean, I think, those of you who have indulged. I will post on Berlin soon, which has always been one of my favorite mongering destinations, ever since I lived there as a child. Hell, there was a Puff on the ground floor of our apartment building in the Sprengelstrasse, an old-fashioned Puff I'm alter Manier, no less (which means that it had 8 mm porno playing non-stop and booths with high wooden backs for privacy so that you could not follow everything your neighbor did with one of the Hausmadchen. Delightful set-up, I must say. I go back there every time I am home and just sit in a corner and wank until one of the girls comes over to relive me of the tension building in my groins. Since the early 1990's they have a two-way mirror in one of the side rooms to accommodate voyeurs like myself. I used to wank like crazy thinking about the nasty shit that went on behind those walls. Occasionally, I would get a peek through one of the windows. More later. It will be good, I promise. I cannot help myself, so let me just add this. While still an aspiring university student this blond haired big breasted Polish appears out of nowhere and pulls me through the door and pretty much raped me in the Klo (loo), telling me she could see me at the window and that she would have to speak to my parents. After that she did not say much; she was too busy sucking on my 8 inch Riesenschwanz, greedily swallowing my seed, which was very abundant at that young age. She wiped a few precious drops that had spilled onto her chin and then gave me one of those little baby burps, confirming that yes "sie hat alles heruntergeschlucken" (down the old hatch) and yes, "das hat geschmeckt" (yummy). The next day I was waiting for her in the Hinterhof (backyard) as she took the trash out and this time it was my turn to surprise her. I reemed her from behind next to the trashcans, where no one could see us and received high marks for my efforts.
Back to Pat at Kasalong; sorry for my long digression on Berlin. I was distressed to learn on this forum that the EW is now closed until the good Mustafa can find a new location; I will post a detailed report on my experiences there and thoughts about the future of this eminent establishment. But like the French novelist Proust I have this thing for scent and taste, though my Madeleine is very different and situated at the apex of a woman's thighs. Anyway Pat and I had a good time in the 45 minutes or so we spent together and I rewarded her with a large tip. After munching on her clean shaven pussy for a while I decided to just settle for a BBBJ even though she was rubbing my now fully erect member around in her in her gaping crack, as if to say "please fuck me. " She told me she goes to doctor for her regular check up, seemingly begging me to fuck her, but I settled for a BBBJCIM. I am beginning to get too old to engage in any protracted fornication, I regret to say. A BBBJ is just a delightful way to end the day and I am glad to report that my Johnson is back to his old horny self, standing to stiff attention whenever, eager to make his master proud (though sometimes I wonder if Dr J. Is not in charge after all). LOL.
Tomorrow I have booked my favorite little fuck from Snow White, Tar. I cannot say enough good things about this girl. Just amazing.
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[QUOTE=RoamingViking;1823026]The blind girls were at it again last night but who would go with them? Pretty as they are they all communicate only by their phones, making it hard to engage in a little conversation beforehand and a bad omen for a good time. Has anyone here tried them?
[/QUOTE]Blind girls? I have heard of deaf or mute girls plying their trade, but blind girls are something new.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1823074]I hope you were drunk or something when writing this report. Reads pretty much exaggerated, emotional, and non sensible at times.[/QUOTE]Not at all. And I am quite sure I could defend any specific aspect of what I wrote anytime you care to be more specific about what you object to rather than resorting to sweeping ad hominem insults.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1823045]
So, there is no standard for which one could recommend the concept of tipping afterwards on message boards like these unless the tip is discussed ahead of time in the bar and is clearly applied to something more specific than her being "good". She is no mind-reader. She has no idea what you think is "good" service, particularly in light of the rave reviews I read and the, without doubt, sizable tips she has gotten from guys who got no better than mediocre service (in my mind) 100 times over before she met me. Something on the order of, "If you do this or that for me, I will give you more" would probably suffice, imo.[/QUOTE]If you discuss the pricing structure ("if you do [I]X[/I] then I pay [I]Y[/I]") beforehand (which I heartily recommend everyone) then it is not a tip but a fee. In my book a "tip" is an unrequested gratuity freely given to reward good service.