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Let me tell you my first experience. I did many different things in my life but never been such a place before. Now I'm happy I've seen it. I'm 34 years old. I found this forum through a Google search and read your great reports and exciting stories. I wanted to give back. I had no intention to sleep with a working girl, which I never did it. I went there just because of curiosity. Did curiosity kill the cat? Read on.

I examined this before visiting:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116623[/url]

The plan is accurate. Thanks Kahnelm!

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=895892&postcount=831[/url]

However, the placement of the girls on the dancefloor was totally different. I examined they try to stick to a point (differs from the plan) but they also change when they feel like.

By the way, the place called Seranda now became "The City". I guess the police raids you wrote about forced the boss to sell the place to somebody else. I didn't like the looks of the guys standing in front of The City at all.

Now, Balance. The guys standing at the door were reasonable. I said "Selamün aleyküm." in Turkish and they welcomed me warmly. I asked how much was the fee and one of them replied "30TL as always sir.". So they noticed it was my first time there.

Entered the place, paid the fee and they checked if I had a gun. After entering the second gate, move straight ahead to downstairs. The right door leads to toilet.

Your first free drink can be any local drink. Raki, vodka, gin, beer etc. They also serve a plate of nice fresh fruits and dried fruits. I continued to drink. Double gin is 10TL, so other local drinks must also be 10TL.

At the moment I entered the place, I was charmed. Heavenly ladies were dancing on the floor. I mean all of us have different tastes but there are scientific measurements. There is something called superhero proportions and some of them were superheroes. I'm talking about 5-6 of the 30 girls. 10-20 on the dancefloor, others sitting at the tables or going up to the rooms and down, making their customers happy.

Noticable ladies (numbers represent Kahnelm's plan's locations, eg. 15a, 15b means ladies dancing at the same spot):

- 15a: A blonde in one piece white dress. White skin. About 25 years old. She is slightly paunchy, about 1.65 meters height. She has an uber ass. So rare, one in 100.000. Shape and volume are both excellent. OK boobs. Perfect legs. Tight body. Medium length bad hair. Nice face. Knows how to dress. Looks like a good performer in bed, shakes her moneymaker properly, even touching from time to time. Hangs out with 15b. Talked to many guys. Picked up twice so must be expensive.

- 15b: A brunette with nice big boobs. Dark skin. About 25 years old. About 1.70 meters. Long dark black hair. Couldn't see her ass. Looks like an avarage performer in bed. She doesn't know how to dress. She was wearing a loose black dress. Talked to a few guys and picked up once.

- 15c: A blonde with a red one piece tight dress. Dark skin. About 20 years old. Dances alone. Long fake yellow hair. She has the ideal body. A true superhero. Her body looks like drawn with a pencil by someone who knows what beauty is. Not skinny like models, but also not 100 grams of extra fat. Right sized tight boobs, an ass to die for, legs like Greek pillars. A professor could show her body as an example of total beauty. However, her face looks like a working girl which I hate. Looks like a bad performer in bed. Too young. She knows she is beautiful. She trusts in herself. She looked at me in the eyes many times and smiled. I'm a tall handsome guy and I take care of myself. Talked to many guys but picked up only once. Either she is selective or expensive, or both. I saw her rejecting guys not so kindly.

- 15d: A tall young blonde with a pornstar look. White skin. Black, tight one piece dress. Very cute face. Skinny, perfect body but has fake boobs which is a big minus. About 1.80 meters tall. She is taller than any lady except a long curly haired blonde MILF witch. Great long blonde hair, so long, goes all the way to her beautiful ass. Awesome legs. She was picked up as soon as she got on the dancefloor, like 2-3 times. Must be very bad in bed. So many customers!

- 8: A young Chinese princess like, slanted eyed lady from middle Asia. Medium length dark black pigtail hair. Doesn't know how to dress. One piece white loose dress, looked like a small girl. Hangs out with the old witch who is about 1.85meters and also another tall redhead witch. Perfect legs. Small boobs. Well shaped ass. Elegant, over-beautiful face. Side view is, well unbelievable. Her nose is natural and great. Cheeks and eyes are adorable. Thin but very well shaped lips. Marble like skin. So rare face, one in 100.000. She doesn't belong to that place. I told her: "You are too beutiful for this place. Apply to model agencies." She smiled at me and told "Thank you.". She tursts in herself too much. Usually sits. Nobody talked to her except me. Never picked up. Her hairdresser expenses were unfortunately lost. Pity I didn't ask her name but must be Asya (Asia) from what I've read in the forums.

- 16: A brunette beauty from Moldovia. Her name is Victoria. Wearing short jeans and a red t-shirt. White skin. Black hair. Slightly paunchy. About 30 years old. Perfect boobs which is a huge plus. OK ass. Not so tight body overall but very sexy baby. Very attractive. Ugly fat nose. Great, big black eyes to die for. Her smile is worth millions of dollars. Nobody talked to her except me because she is a little old. She also looks like Turkish girls and still insists to use her hair in its natural color, which is great for me but the guys in there always go for blondes. I reached at her just because of curiosity. She first asked for 200 for one hour, then agreed for 150 for two hours, because she had no potential customers. I told her I wanted think and check other bargains. I bet her genitals are overused but she knows how to make love. She can get you over the clouds if she wants. Has a fat blonde friend who dances at spot 2 on the plan and talks to her when they sit. If I wanted to bang a working girl, my choice would definately be Victoria.

Now, on to my observations.

- Very relaxed atmosphere. Waiters are great.

- On a Saturday night, the disco was full only at peak hours around 1-2 am. Even then, about 1/3 of the tables were filled by ladies. Other hours, girls and customers were almost equal.

- Few customers picked up girls. I didn't count accurately but picking up numbers in total was around 20.

- Other girls I didn't write about. Many regular girls from middle Asia; short, regular girls you can see on the streets. Many regular working girl looking avarage EE girls, some fake, some real blonde, some fat, most of them OK bodies. 4-5 old witches, some fat, some avarage weight.

- Girls crawl to get picked up. Many of them looked at me in the eye for a long time, smiled, even made inviting gestures. Best looking girls have many potential customers but won't agree to most negotiators.

- Around 1 am a local belly dancer showed up. Then girls went back on the dancefloor.

- 5-6 stupid guys were dancing like a crazy whole night. Even girls stopped dancing and started watching them from time to time. Even then, nobody warned them or directed to their tables. So the place is peaceful more than you need.

- Most girls were checking cell phones when they seated, with a hope of finding clients, because they knew they had almost no chance to get picked up after like 2 am.

- My advice is don't go for the best girls. They get banged many times and refuse most negotiations. I bet they ask for high prices and don't give many effort in bed.

- The place reminded me the saloons in cowboy movies. Same thing. Girls dance and you watch, but you talk to the girls on the dancefloor, not tables.

- The idea is great. You can find girls for many tastes. You can talk to girls directly. No phone calls, no pimps etc. A heaven if you're into sex with working girls.

I drank all night, four double gins in total. Gave 40 TL for four gins and 10TL for tip.

That's the end of my looooong report. Curiosity didn't kill the cat. Take care!

PS: Tourists and local people who are afraid of going there alone can PM me. I can get you there. I have fluent English. I'd love to visit again with an anonymous friend.

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[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]

.. Curiosity didn't kill the cat.[/QUOTE]Curiosity eventually kills the cat, it just may not happen at the first time. You wrote like a journalist, liked it.

Regards

Now, this is a REPORT.
Thank you for your effort.

That is really a report but I wish it had Names of the girls. The descriptions made me drool. I may run there tonight (last night of celibacy)

Well Tiger the Hunter first a suggestion from a brother. I had never paid for sex until I was 38 and than discovered pros and enjoying ever since. Dont waste more years to start dipping into pro russian juice.

Another thing is how can you judge they are good at sex from their dance? There are some cheater girls, mostly good loking ones, who dance really sexy but give shitty service. that is why I suggest you dig deeper in your research and deeper into girls.

Your report is very detailed about girls, did you take notes on the table???or have a computer memory? Thanks, I will try to integrate to the plan I put on the forum. First I have to get their names!! And their rotation on the dance floor really ruins the plan. We need names+detailed descriptions for them.

Tonight I am going for victoria asia or karina. Your report really get me going, thanks and think about suggestions.

Thank again Tiger.

As a visitor to this great city, i wanted to monger, but could not find the right information. Your report has shed a lot of light into the sport in this city.

Does this place have rooms, and if yes how much are they? I am trying to get an idea of the overall cost involved.

Is the place open on weekdays, and where is it?

Thanks again
I tried to send you a PM, but could not find it.

[QUOTE=Kahnelm]That is really a report but I wish it had Names of the girls. The descriptions made me drool. I may run there tonight (last night of celibacy)

Well Tiger the Hunter first a suggestion from a brother. I had never paid for sex until I was 38 and than discovered pros and enjoying ever since. Dont waste more years to start dipping into pro russian juice.[/QUOTE]Mate I have four more celibacy nights. I wish we could go there together tonight. This moderation before posts show up is for security reasons and web barbarism for sure, but I wish I could have read your post earlier. I'm an atheist and believe in one life only. I still love my wife and never cheated her. The thing is I'm confused with the beauty of the girls in there and it's so easy. Pick any of them and have fun! I couldn't do it even though I drank more than enough for. Another reason that kept me from doing it was if I do it for the first time, most likely I'll want more. The first one is therefor the most important.

[QUOTE=Kahnelm]Another thing is how can you judge they are good at sex from their dance? There are some cheater girls, mostly good loking ones, who dance really sexy but give shitty service. that is why I suggest you dig deeper in your research and deeper into girls.[/QUOTE]I never slept with a working girl but I know women. The women in there are also women.

[QUOTE=Kahnelm]Your report is very detailed about girls, did you take notes on the table???or have a computer memory? Thanks, I will try to integrate to the plan I put on the forum. First I have to get their names!! And their rotation on the dance floor really ruins the plan. We need names+detailed descriptions for them.[/QUOTE]I've been using my eyes in my daily job for long years. I have a great visual memory and I love women. I love observing them. If you get there tonight, there is almost no chance you will not be able to identify them. My descrptions are accurate. That awesome ass lady, that "just right" sized long fake yellow pigtailed one etc. You can't miss any of them.

[QUOTE=Kahnelm]Tonight I am going for victoria asia or karina. Your report really get me going, thanks and think about suggestions.[/QUOTE]I couldn't notice Karina. Must fit to your taste for some reason. Asia, I'm doubtful if she perfoms well. Victoria, I will get jealous but still read your possible post. I dreamed of her last night.

I am thinking and will think about morale, honor etc... I believe men also have them. But! The sculptural bodies for sale are so adorable!

[QUOTE=Man]Thank again Tiger.[/QUOTE]NP. My pleasure to see you fellow mongers like my report.

[QUOTE=Man]As a visitor to this great city, i wanted to monger, but could not find the right information. Your report has shed a lot of light into the sport in this city.

Does this place have rooms, and if yes how much are they? I am trying to get an idea of the overall cost involved.[/QUOTE]Yes it has rooms. Victoria told me rooms cost 90 TL.

[QUOTE=Man]Is the place open on weekdays, and where is it?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's open. I asked a waiter when the place gets closed. He said it was open till 5-5.30 AM on Friday-Saturday nights. So you may guess... Other nights it must be open but gets closed earlier. Maybe around 4 AM?

[QUOTE=Man]Thanks again.

I tried to send you a PM, but could not find it.[/QUOTE]You need to click my nickname. I tried to send a PM to you but the site refused me, asking for paid registration. Posting e-mails and phone numbers must be prohibited. They moderate posts before showing up. So if you decide to PM me, include your e-mail and/or phone number as well. I don't think I'm gonna pay to send PMs.

[QUOTE=Hellberry]Curiosity eventually kills the cat, it just may not happen at the first time. You wrote like a journalist, liked it.

Regards[/QUOTE]Considering you are a true hero, now I know I wrote well.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Man]where is it? [/QUOTE]In Europe side of istanbul. In Aksaray, which is close to Sultanahmet (Blue Mosque) and Laleli. When you take off the tramway/taxi near tramway station, start to walk down through the big bridge to the sea side. You will see the police station on the right side, then McDonald's at the corner. Get in that street and keep walking, about 250 meters. You'll see "The City" on your left. Balance is on the same block. Go down the street just before The City and look up. You'll se the place.

Or take a taxi and say "Do you know Seranda? Do you know Balance? Take me there! LOL. Beware! From Sultanahmet it should cost no more than 5-6 TL and no more than 10-12 TL from Taksim. Taxi drivers are robbers in this city.

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]..I still love my wife and never cheated her...[/QUOTE]We all do, relax.

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]..I never slept with a working girl but I know women. The women in there are also women.[/QUOTE]That's a little bit naive. It's more like a business than you thought. Chi square test shows that there isn't any clear correlation between the quality of the service and the look. Number of samples were adequate and hypothesis (Ho) was not rejected for my data set.

If you decide to indulge your curiosity, you'll reach the same conclusion shortly, unless your choice of Type I error is too small.

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]..I've been using my eyes in my daily job for long years. I have a great visual memory ..[/QUOTE]r u a policeman or detective in disguise? :)

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]..I am thinking and will think about morale, honor etc... I believe men also have them...[/QUOTE]Your starting point is wrong. Such a dialectic will mislead you to a biased conclusion. Or, you are trying to say politely, we are all honorless bastards without any morale. if this is the case then fuck yourself sir, so you dont lose your morale! if not, sorry for cursing you.

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]Considering you are a true hero, now I know I wrote well
[/QUOTE]A hero..Hahahah...What I'm doing is only flattering my ego and indulging my desires. No more no less.

So what, Tiger? What will you do now? I'll be wondering the result. Keep us informed. And no offense pls, as usual.

Regards

this time curiosity killed the cat!

after tiger s report i was ready for one last balance yesterday. 5 pm the friend who got me into mongering called, announcing he is in istanbul and have a nice hotel room ready for some action. he had numbers of some classy russians barbara and alana. they made a two man and two girl sex few weeks ago and he did not know the price (the other rich friend paid for) anyways called barbara and she asks 200 usd +50 tl for taksi. overall 350 tl seemed high. also considering we are two guys i opted for dumping my friend who was lazy and tired to go to balance and hit the road again.

monday night 11 pm the scene at balance was funny. 8 women, all mid quality to low quality sitting and watching a group of japanese tourist dancing away on the piste. towards midnight lost tourist group left some more girls showed.

i tried to talk to most ok looking girls and having a close look at them.

young kazak girl razan, at location 1, nice tight body, small breasts, danced alone, warm. 100 tl for an hour okey. her stupid smile put me off

moldovian couple hand in hand at 15 location, kristina black hair. body i could not tell, ok, nice smile 100 tl for hour ok. her friend lili is ugly, more like her manager

another moldovian couple, hand in hand also. maria black long hair, piercing at belly, seemed nice. 150 tl for hour, would not bargain. her friend shoulder length blond, ilina was the hottest look but coldest behaviour. had a yellow shortest strech skirt.

baksana from ukraine/donetks dances by herself, mostly on location 7. yellow nice dress, firm body, soso face, pigtail blond hair. 100 tl ok for an hour. finally i went to her and said lets go. and a strange thing happened. she refused me and did not want to tell why. being refused form a pro was really downer and i should have left.

non of these girls were picked up for the 1.5 hours i was there, again there were few customers, i found myself only man dancing with 10 girls!

right about i decided to leave and be the "king of my castle" as seinfeld would say, or pay hommage to tiger and not have sex with strangers, i saw the newcomer. hot body, soso face maria from moldovia. it was obvious she was picked up just before i came into club and going for second round. she seemed cheating roumanian but i was knocked out by refusal of baksana, she asked 120 for hour i said 50 euro and we went upstairs. she ordered cigarettes, juice and other staff on the way to set me down for another 20 tl.

in the room she lay down naked watching tv, telling me to go on get on top. she said she just had silicone lips so no kissing, would not like the condoms i have so gave fake blowjob, continuously talked stupid things, i had understood of my mistake so my willy was not very eager for sex. anyways i was going to revenge with fucking her hard and i was on my 15 th minute she said she has go to bathroom and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. what a shit. she comes back, my dick had gone down again, fake blow job again. even her gorgeous body could not get my mind to the sex she was so boring. her attitude was so bad i pulled out and said i won't be coming and she was so happy to dress quickly.

she got defensive and started talking how many customers she has, it was my fault not her. etc etc. and left.

so my last night at balance was the worst one. staying away from the hot looking moldovian/roumanian woman would be a good idea, monday is not a good time since better girls are not around. sometimes you get what you pay for.

so i am off from scene for 45 days. see you in august, keep the flag high as atlantico would say.

Kahnelm,

Sorry for your bad night. I'm shocked there were only around 10 girls and no good ones. However, I'll have to go there in a weekday and try my chance to find a good one in the evening. My wife will be here before the weekend.

Hellberry,

You made me LOL. You misunderstood. I respect and envy all of you active guys.

I'll be there again on Wednesday or Thursday evening. We'll see what happens.

[QUOTE=Tiger The Hunter]You made me LOL. You misunderstood. I respect and envy all of you active guys.

I'll be there again on Wednesday or Thursday evening. We'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]I thought it was clear that I was joking, but you took it serious I think :)) Who talks about statistics to explain a correlation between service quality and looks. Nothing here worths taking serious. We (almost) are all here to have some fun.

Regards

As a visitor from Central & South America, I don't get the scene here.

1. Why are you guys agreeing to pay so much?
2. Why are you putting up with such bad service?

I decided I will pass on the action here. I loved my visit, and the city, but it just seem like an ugly scene to me.

Pay 30 TL entry fee
Pay 150 TL for the girl
pay 90 TL to the place
Get charged for orders the girl makes.

Sounds like a complete rip off to me.

In central and South America, prices are about half, and the sex is 80% of the time really great.

Tiger:
Stay away for as long as you can. Although, my bet is that by the time you reach your 40s, you will dip into the sport. Then again, if you keep going this week, it may happens this week.

You do it once, and you will do it again. Also, don't be surprised if your first one, does not live up to your expectation.

From my experience, price has nothing to do with the quality of sex. Hence why I refuse to pay up. I do agree that the best looking girls, are often the worst pick.

Meet a girl, spend some time chatting her up, and try to develop real chemistry. Iif you do that, I will bet you will have great sex.

Thanks for shedding the light about istanbul for me.

The other day, a young german WG who stayed in Turkey and knew Turkish men told me that invariably almost all the Turkish men asked for popo. She asked me why?