Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Breadman;1828260]What would be the quickest and easiest way for 2 guys to reach Patpong from the Sukhumvit road area? I'm guessing a bts would run 60 baht each to go 6 bts stops, a taxi shouldn't run you more than 200 baht (again guessing).[/QUOTE]The fastest and cheapest way to go to Patpong is to take the BTS and change lines at the Siam Paragon Station. Then get off at the Sala Daeng station. Alternatively, if you are close to Asok and T21, take the MRT directly to the Sala Daeng station.

Always take a taxi to return to your hotel when you are with a girl.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1828272]I think the BTS is 30 or something per person on this route. But, yes taxis are cheap in BKK if you get them to use the meter. When I returned I got a taxi for just 81 baht on the meter.[/QUOTE]My thinking is if my buddy and I are a ten minute walk to a BTS station and a taxi quotes us 150 baht to take us to Patpong, I'd spend a few extra baht for the comfort of a taxi.

Are there any money exchange booths on soi 4? Only one I remember is the currency exchange place on Sukhumvit.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1828297]My thinking is if my buddy and I are a ten minute walk to a BTS station and a taxi quotes us 150 baht to take us to Patpong, I'd spend a few extra baht for the comfort of a taxi.

Are there any money exchange booths on soi 4? Only one I remember is the currency exchange place on Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]To Breadman.

The traffic is bad most of the day from 5-8 pm it will take forever from Suk to Patong so better just take the BTS.

Fast eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1827583]...Even though some girls prefer Koreans, there are plenty that normally get Farangs and some that take a mix. I don't see any evidence that girls don't want to be seen with Farangs. Very few indeed would avoid me and however girls always have the right to favor whichever customer they prefer. I have experiences being totally ignored by a girl having a younger customer. No big deal. He was a Farang too...[/QUOTE]One of my favorite discussion topic with a working girl in Thailand, is to understand how they decide who to go with. Over the years, I have asked that question many many times, usually with girls where a good comfort level was already established. This is the response I get most of the times, as of 3/5 years ago, and I stopped asking that question a while back.

They all told me that they have 3 criteria: 1) They prefer customers who are generous, 2) They prefer those who respect them, and 3) They prefer customers who don't ask them to do too much (for example: no boom-boom all night). As of 5 years ago, Japanese customers were thought of as the best, next was older white customers, and then the rest. Strangely enough, Thai customers were ranked the worst, as they don't seem to respect the working ladies.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1828313]One of my favorite discussion topic with a working girl in Thailand, is to understand how they decide who to go with. Over the years, I have asked that question many many times, usually with girls where a good comfort level was already established. This is the response I get most of the times, as of 3/5 years ago, and I stopped asking that question a while back.

They all told me that they have 3 criteria: 1) They prefer customers who are generous, 2) They prefer those who respect them, and 3) They prefer customers who don't ask them to do too much (for example: no boom-boom all night). As of 5 years ago, Japanese customers were thought of as the best, next was older white customers, and then the rest. Strangely enough, Thai customers were ranked the worst, as they don't seem to respect the working ladies.[/QUOTE]I think your 3 criteria are pretty good. There may be other slight variations. Girls gossip too, so when a girl sits with me in between dance sets at a bar, it's quite likely that other girls that have been with me, may whisper something to her. I think it becomes known that I appreciate girls that really make an effort to give me a good time, and that they can get drinks from me in the future if they are good to me, where if they are crap, they will be ignored in the future.

I think I enjoy a good reputation for points 1 and 2 but may dip out a bit on point 3. I do fuck too long for many girls' preference, as am very slow to cum. However I need to avoid girls who are wanting a quickie, so if they avoid me for that reason, it's better for me.

Girls appear to generalise about Farangs from certain countries too. We are not purely Farangs to them, we are Americans, English, etc. , just like Koreans and Japanese are considered a bit different in the generalisations.

I would obviously avoid bars where the best looking girls are only wanting to do Japanese quickies. Is Rainbow 4 a bit that way? I think so, since have spoken to girls who gave impression they wanted a lot of money for a very short time, in the past. i.e. I was not going to get 90 mins for my ST. 30 mins is not good enough for me. I prefer 90 minutes or more. Also some RB4 girls wanted to take the ST in the Plaza and not in a better ST Hotel Di Place 200 metres up the road. Some ST spots are trying to kick you out of room in 60 mins or even less at Nana Plaza. At DI Place can request the cost of 90 mins or 2 hours. Increased cost over 1 hour, but not double.

DI Place Hotel
http://www.booking.com/hotel/th/di-place.html

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1828278]The fastest and cheapest way to go to Patpong is to take the BTS and change lines at the Siam Paragon Station. Then get off at the Sala Daeng station. Alternatively, if you are close to Asok and T21, take the MRT directly to the Sala Daeng station.

Always take a taxi to return to your hotel when you are with a girl.[/QUOTE]I would go with the MRT if you are staying close to Asoke. The MRT station that you would get off at is called Silom, not Sala Daeng. That is the BTS stop. It is four stops from Asoke on the MRT. If you are not close to Asoke then BTS as Natty says.

Beeing stunned by my norwegian GF (half norwegian and half pinay) and her incentive working for "childrens right to play" my GF has now moved us to Bangkok for a while. She feels suddenly bad for the children in need here but as I told her why would you not do the same in your mothers birthcountry (philippines)? She hates the place. Bangkok I guess is a nice place to operate from as they have the best shopping malls in the region and the certain lux brands my GF appreciates. To keep the piece back home I told her its ok we move Bangkok for a while as long as I could choose place to live. We ended up as in a long time residents apt at the Kempinskis (close to Siam Paragorn). Only 320000 bhts a month so not to bad I guess (me, GF and baby with accustomed babysitting ofcourse and nursing program with other intl childs living there).

So basically my GF feels sorry for the unattended children in Thailand, she joined many groupes of people wishing the bad fortuned ones a better future. All the time I wish her the best I can not help but to think what is my GF doing. She got the best opertunity in life, borned and raised in Norway, she met me and we coupled up (I am not to poor and have a dime extra to spare), she looks great and never had to suffer in her life. She is soon to finish her PHD from medical research and funnily she's been studying HRM and its affect when people having known AIDS (social control and beeing tagged).

Mongering: My GF vanished a few days into the bushes of Thailand leaving me and daughter at Kempinskis. I flew down my mom and dad so they could nurse the baby, booked myself a room at shitty Grand President and started firing up the monger engine. Arrived Grand President Tuesday, been fucking 6 girls so far (I have quite an arsenal to choose from also beeing the seedy side of BKK). I skipped out my cabincrew / model girls as they would not like it if they knew I stayed in prime top monger area. I guess I survive a few days leaving my GF in the bushes and myself enjoying other bushes (shaving happens at times).

I am more regular writing in the phil section of this forum but I guess I will be a tad more active here from now on.

I recently came back from a short 8-day trip to SEA, split between Bangkok (4 days) and Manila (4 days). Usually, when I visit Thailand, I spend most of my time in Pattaya, as I prefer it over Bangkok. However, this past October, I became excited about Thermae. Pattaya gogos have been getting on my nerves lately, as the girls / Mamasan seem to go to great length in trying to empty my pocket. Getting tired of all the tricks they use to get free LDs from me. Over the past couple of trips, I have been relying more and more on FLs, and Thermae fits right in that model. Moreover, I was surprised at the amount of eye candy available on my last visit. So, this time with only 4 days to play, I decided to skip Pattaya.

First night, I went to Thermae and met Vivi. She was petite, with a tiny frame, a pretty face, and an inviting smile. We agreed to 2. 5 K baths for ST. I enjoyed her company that first night, even though she was tight. Went back to her again on the 2nd night, but things did not go so well. Due to her tightness, she was not comfortable and she would not speak up. Every time I stopped to ask her if she was OK, she would say that she is fine, yet I could see her squirming.

I went back to Thermae the 3rd night, but tried to pick up a different chick and it was a disaster. This chick was eye candy, but she did not appear eager to go with me. Unfortunately, the small head took over and wanted that pussy, so I kept negotiating hard with her, trying to convince her to go with me. She started asking me whether I was too big, whether I come fast or take too long. Then, she wanted 4 K baths for ST and was not willing to go less that 3 K baths. I failed to head all these signs, as the small head appeared in total control. Back in my hotel room, she would not let me play with her boobs, no kissing, no P2 P, and was willing to do only CBJ. Junior was not interested anymore. After a while, I decided to cut my losses and negotiated with her for a smaller amount, then I let her go.

In this trip, I also visited CH, Baccara, and Shark. CH was packed around 9 pm and the only seat available was next to the center stage. I was not too impressed by their lineup that night. I found 2 or 3 chicks interesting but they were taken. Baccara made me buy a drink in order to get in. They did the same to another monger but he decided to go somewhere else instead. I bought my drink, went inside, and I was not too impressed with their lineup either. The place was full of Asians, the preferred kind, and they did not have to buy a drink at the door. I got the distinct impression that Baccara is trying to go Asians only, with their drink purchase at the door policy. I soon left the place. Shark was relatively empty. A chick invited herself and sat next to me. I offered her a drink, chatted with her for a while, then left. She was not my type.

Recently, I had read a few TRs by Eric Swiss, describing his foray into high end MPs. I remember visiting a few of those back when I first started visiting Thailand, about 10+ years ago. I remember being disappointed and frustrated with the hunt at these places. I have always been a sucker for eye candy and willing to pay for it. So, this time I decided to pay a visit to the Lord. I was there around 5 pm and the place was relatively quiet. They had close to 20+ girls and few customers. A Papasan joined me and gave me the layout of the place. The girls looked good from where I was sitting. After a while I picked this slim girl, who was looking my way and smiling. The Papasan explained to me that the pricing scheme and I was pleased to learn that my girl was among the lowest priced at 4,900 bahts. They had this one other girl sitting next to mine, and the Papa said 10 K for that one. Gosh! And I was debating which one to pick among those two. Basically, the same frustration as before, I don't see, how in the world, they pick the price for these girls, because as far I was concerned, there was no reason in for one to be priced higher than the other. Go figure!

Now, I was starting to wonder whether I was going to get a starfish, as it has happened to me before with high end girls. Luckily, this chick performed with quite a bit of enthusiasm, and I was relieved. But, probably another foray into high end places 10 years from now.

But, overall, it was an FL who saved the day for me. I met Nut on my first day, and liked her. She asked for 1K bahts ST and for me that was a steel. She was so good that I saw her every day. I had a grand total of 4 sessions with her, and all were outstanding. I also stayed 2 nights at Terminal 21 and 2 nights at Dream hotel.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1828508]I recently came back from a short 8-day trip to SEA, split between Bangkok (4 days) and Manila (4 days). Usually, when I visit Thailand, I spend most of my time in Pattaya, as I prefer it over Bangkok. However, this past October, I became excited about Thermae. Pattaya gogos have been getting on my nerves lately, as the girls / Mamasan seem to go to great length in trying to empty my pocket. Getting tired of all the tricks they use to get free LDs from me. Over the past couple of trips, I have been relying more and more on FLs, and Thermae fits right in that model. Moreover, I was surprised at the amount of eye candy available on my last visit. So, this time with only 4 days to play, I decided to skip Pattaya.
[/QUOTE]Yeah the Pattaya GoGo management model is similar to the Bangkok one now. It's more of a western strip club than a free-range brothel. (Free-range, get it? Because they can walk around and aren't kept in a fish bowl har har). I went to Pattaya a few weeks ago and was really not impressed with the gogo prices at all, nor the availability of girls. Soi cowboy was a waste, more guys than girls at the good ones (Happy and Baccara). And I know well not to step into the other ones because they are just so outright aggressive in stealing drinks and playing so many scams. So I decided to check out LK Metro part of town and bar fined a really high quality girl for about 3 k total. Didn't have to pay for any lady drinks, but the bar fine was 1000-1200 baht after I negotiated it down from something like 1400 baht. It had a greedy mamasan pimp, which is a really annoying business model and I will get the girls number / email and easily work out a better arrangement if I like what I see (and I did).

Anyway, about Pattaya. I only like Soi 6. Most of the girls aren't attractive but there are some really cute 30 year olds around there for 1500 baht ST. And it's got much better hours than gogos, which only open at about 9-10 PM, whereas they open at 2 PM. However, Soi 6 isn't enough to keep me in Pattaya, as the food (actual food) is all bad IMHO (I got sick at least once from it), and food in Bangkok is so much better. Also Bangkok has a few places with great prices: Avita massage and Colonze do ST for 1700 baht. Not sure about Avita, haven't been in awhile but I paid 1800 baht last time in 2012. Also Bangkok has some pretty decent quality and quantity of hot girls in the Soi 22-26 massage shops, and although the prices for FS are about 2200 baht, 700 baht more than Soi 6.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1828508]And I was debating which one to pick among those two. Basically, the same frustration as before, I don't see, how in the world, they pick the price for these girls, because as far I was concerned, there was no reason in for one to be priced higher than the other. Go figure![/QUOTE]I know it's weird, but it's a cultural difference. Short answer, you are paying for her education / class / cultural-face-ranking. Thai mating habits care a lot about social rank. That is why some lowly uneducated Isaan farm girl can be a hottie physically but the local Bangkok Thai's with money will never want to be seen with her. I have found that the higher end place like Copacabana, Poseidon, and The Lord have some really hot 10/10 women from Isaan / rural-Thailand and I always go for the most psychically beautiful. The times I went and there were only pseudo-Hi-so working girls, I noticed that they spoke English very well, so there was a much closer language and cultural connection. They were more logical, more educated, less religious / superstitious, less scatter-brained, less per-pubescent girl acting, had high value of themselves, but a little snobby. You're paying for the personality and social ranking, believe it or not. You may value the personality of a more educated Thai, and the potential for a meta-physical connection that can be made with their command of English and education. However you're right in the end. Why pay 6 k baht more because her family are pseudo "big people" ? Not worth it.

I am not tighton moneys but yesterday I had an incomming friend from my country. With GF somewhere in the province, helping children, we had to monger some. Went first to this italian eatiry in Soi 11, oposite Grand President Hotel. Had a blasting pepperony pizza and a few btls of wine. Then we hit Bossy. This post maybe be a tad uncalled for bcs I was out of memory, due to heavy drinking, at Bossy. But I do today get information I did have my tounge deep into a certain Thail lady. Lateron my friend viewed her as Katoy. Fuck but shit happens. Luckely I did not go further on.

My friend tells me we tuktukked to Shock69 and this fine morning I was waking up with a pretty Thai girl in my bed. I must have collappsed bcs I have no recollection of where and when I picked this fine speciment up. I must have been charming though as she gave me quite a heads up;.

I've told her I am multi special task force guy (spy), working for the US gvnmt, I saw one pk of condom open and one condom attached to my dick. Seemingly hard I wrapped the condom off and fucked the nice thai lady. She asked during session "why not use condom" and I gave the latent BS of "it gives me no pleasure". After boning her I asked her name and she chuckled "I knew her name allready". I didn't, at least I didn't remember it. She was Meow and 24 yo working as head singer for an unfamous Thaiband of which I not know the name off.

She was giving and caring and only recently she departed (at 3:30 pm). I asked if she wanted any money and she replied "I am not that kind of girl" so for once I bailed out put 2 k in her purse and while she in taxi she found the money and called me bad names as I still paid her. I was and still am happy to contribute bcs yesterday and today I was in no meaning of the word, boyfriend material.

[QUOTE=DonaldSucks;1828520] ... She was giving and caring and only recently she departed (at 3:30 pm). I asked if she wanted any money and she replied "I am not that kind of girl" so for once I bailed out put 2 k in her purse and while she in taxi she found the money and called me bad names as I still paid her. I was and still am happy to contribute bcs yesterday and today I was in no meaning of the word, boyfriend material.[/QUOTE]It's nice to find a good girl every now and then. Good for you.

If the girl was just out having fun when you picked her up, and more importantly she didn't want any money, I would not put her picture on here. My opinion. Plus she even told you she is not that kind of girl. I posted many pics over the years. But only of straight up P4 P girls, not regular girls and freebies.

Just my. 02 cents.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1828508]I recently came back from a short 8-day trip to SEA, split between Bangkok (4 days) and Manila (4 days). Usually, when I visit Thailand, I spend most of my time in Pattaya, as I prefer it over Bangkok. However, this past October, I became excited about Thermae. [/QUOTE]Buddy,

For upscale FL'are action you should try the gentleman's clubs, one of the best or finest thai ladies can be found here or the night clubs such as Kudeta and Mixx, you will be amazed to see the variety of ladies there. I think its much better than the thermae scene, if you got excited in thermae I hope you don't become super horny in Kudeta. LOL.

Just joking.

Adios cheers.

Alex

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1828552]It's nice to find a good girl every now and then. Good for you.

If the girl was just out having fun when you picked her up, and more importantly she didn't want any money, I would not put her picture on here. My opinion. Plus she even told you she is not that kind of girl. I posted many pics over the years. But only of straight up P4 P girls, not regular girls and freebies.

Just my. 02 cents.[/QUOTE]I agree and I regretmy actions. If you follow phil secrion you see loads of pics by me, hehe. I am not destroy purpously kind of a guy so I might be more no no posting pics. Even so I like them all to come out in beauty.

[QUOTE=DonaldSucks;1828617]I agree and I regretmy actions. If you follow phil secrion you see loads of pics by me, hehe. I am not destroy purpously kind of a guy so I might be more no no posting pics. Even so I like them all to come out in beauty.[/QUOTE]Ask Jackson to remove the pictures. I'm sure he would to try to restore the girl's privacy.