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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Guys,

What's the bottom line on Cebu Pacific? Is it a good idea to book flights with them or not?

I am planning my first trip to PI. It would sure be convenient to fly straight into AC from Macau, but not if there is a good chance of things getting messed up (cancelled flights or lost reservations).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I have used them on average three times per year for the last 4-5 years. Typical budget no frills airline, pretty much like the UK equivalent of Easy Jet. I have always booked on line and never ever had a problem, unlike Air Asia who have let me down countless times with last minute cancellations. Thats my own personal experience, others may take a different view, I don't know.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Guys,

What's the bottom line on Cebu Pacific? Is it a good idea to book flights with them or not?

I am planning my first trip to PI. It would sure be convenient to fly straight into AC from Macau, but not if there is a good chance of things getting messed up (cancelled flights or lost reservations).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Reasonable prices budget service low 15kg luggage allowance

[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]

.................. guys have posted here about chicks they've met through DIA showing up for the first meeting with a friend, mother, aunt, who have come on a bus from the provinces. It isn't clear to me, when the young chick shows up to meet me in a shopping mall with her mother/aunt, does the mother fully realize that our interest is in having sex with her daughter almost immediately, with a very low probability of it turning into an ongoing relationship or marriage? Or do they expect (or delude themselves) that it is a meeting primarily oriented toward potential marriage? Tactically, how does one handle the guardian? Do you just give the mother a few hundred pesos for lunch and her bus ride back to the provinces, while promising you'll send her daughter home safely within 1. 10 days? Do you tell the mother to hang out in the mall for a few hours while you take her daughter back to your hotel for a test ride? Do the girls themselves understand we're meeting with them primarily for sex, and they're ready to go back to our hotel after lunch, or do many of them expect non-sexual meetings ................
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What hasn't been mentioned explicitly here in replies is something that has been discussed on another thread (Pen-pals thread), and that is the wording of your profile on DIA.

If you take the time to make it very clear that you are NOT looking for a wife but merely a companion for some outings (mention movies, dinner, live-bands if you wish). Use words like "adventurous, open-minded" and "fun-loving" and be as explicit as you can about the age range too.
In other words, be up-front about what you want, but not so explicit as to have your post deleted by DIA or have some goody-goody woman reporting you and getting you blocked.
You will have far less "hits" on your profile, but at least that will filter out the women obsessed with finding a husband.
Don't write stuff on your profile that is dishonest and misleading to the girls. You will just waste your time and their time and get them as pissed off with you as you will be with them.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Guys,

What's the bottom line on Cebu Pacific? Is it a good idea to book flights with them or not?

I am planning my first trip to PI. It would sure be convenient to fly straight into AC from Macau, but not if there is a good chance of things getting messed up (cancelled flights or lost reservations).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

used them a few times and never had any issues...

genkisugiru, much of the details of chaperones and shy filipinas has been said already, but let me add my comments.

i think that it is pretty fair that a young, inexperienced filipina such as you are looking for, a regular girl, who has never met a foreigner before, should bring along someone for support.

often she will have discussed you with her mother, and mom wants to come along to make sure that you are not some kind of monster/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] etc.

treat mom with respect, make sure that you direct a lot of the conversation her way. buy lunch, or dinner, and show her that you are a nice guy, reliable, honourable, kind.

once mom has reassured herself, she will say that she needs to go. and she will leave her daughter in your trustworthy hands.

it has worked for me every time.

sometimes a cousin will come along, same deal, looking for reassurance, or your gf is looking for a second opinion, as do most western women.

so, just roll with it. it is part of their culture, and you are in their country. don't fight it, use it to your advantage.

in my most recent visit to dumaguete, my first liaison went this way, with a cousin in tow.

after about 10 minutes, she asked the cousin her opinion. cousin said, openly in my hearing, he is perfect.

done,

happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]
I sense cartel-like pricing in Manila, at least in the popular foreign monger venues. If true supply and demand principles were working, you'd think rates would be about 500 ST and 1000 pesos LT.

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How do you figure that? I see a shortage of young hotties with lots of punters competing for the top meat!

@ Amjeck.
Really? Where have you been?
In all the bars in Burgos or in EDSA Entertainment Complex, even in LAC you dont see many "punters" compared with the number of ladies. What you and I see as hotties may differ of course, hence guess we are both right!

On the other hand, I dont agree with Genkisiguru.
The barfine in EDSA increased from 1000 to 1200 a couple of years ago, and the girls have always asked 1500 for ST, and in LAC you can easily get a girl for a ST for 1000 (I met one cute one that hangs out in LAC in DiA and we both chatted about LAC before she suggested 1000 overnight).

[QUOTE=Amjeck]How do you figure that? I see a shortage of young hotties with lots of punters competing for the top meat![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]What hasn't been mentioned explicitly here in replies is something that has been discussed on another thread (Pen-pals thread), and that is the wording of your profile on DIA.

If you take the time to make it very clear that you are NOT looking for a wife but merely a companion for some outings (mention movies, dinner, live-bands if you wish). Use words like "adventurous, open-minded" and "fun-loving" and be as explicit as you can about the age range too.

In other words, be up-front about what you want, but not so explicit as to have your post deleted by DIA or have some goody-goody woman reporting you and getting you blocked.

You will have far less "hits" on your profile, but at least that will filter out the women obsessed with finding a husband.

Don't write stuff on your profile that is dishonest and misleading to the girls. You will just waste your time and their time and get them as pissed off with you as you will be with them.[/QUOTE]Hey Red Kilt,

I appreciate your helpful inputs re: DIA postings. I'll incorporate some of your key word suggestions in my post. I have been getting too many responses from young provincial girls, some of whom I suspect think I'm willing to marry them (and support their families) before sampling their wares.

And a warning to DIA users: As some have pointed out here, there definitely are under-age girls on DIA. I had exchanged a few messages with a cutie, and asked her to send some additional pics. I sensed she might not be 18, so I asked her. She admitted she's turning 17 next week, and apologized for lying.

[quote=gangles]genkisugiru, much of the details of chaperones and shy filipinas has been said already, but let me add my comments.

i think that it is pretty fair that a young, inexperienced filipina such as you are looking for, a regular girl, who has never met a foreigner before, should bring along someone for support.

often she will have discussed you with her mother, and mom wants to come along to make sure that you are not some kind of monster/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] etc.

treat mom with respect, make sure that you direct a lot of the conversation her way. buy lunch, or dinner, and show her that you are a nice guy, reliable, honourable, kind.

once mom has reassured herself, she will say that she needs to go. and she will leave her daughter in your trustworthy hands.

it has worked for me every time.

sometimes a cousin will come along, same deal, looking for reassurance, or your gf is looking for a second opinion, as do most western women.

so, just roll with it. it is part of their culture, and you are in their country. don't fight it, use it to your advantage.

in my most recent visit to dumaguete, my first liaison went this way, with a cousin in tow.

after about 10 minutes, she asked the cousin her opinion. cousin said, openly in my hearing, he is perfect.

done,

happy mongering.[/quote]hey gangles,

i appreciate you sharing your experiences and lessons learned. i totally respect this aspect of ph culture, and i'm willing to roll with it. i think i'll pass the sniff test with most chaperones.

if you're up for it, i'd love to read a topline summary of your experiences post-chaperone meeting. i'm interested to know what % of these provincial chaperoned first meetings have resulted in sex within 24 hours. in your experience, does getting the chaperone's approval to proceed with the date equate for the most part to getting a green light to have sex with the girl? and do the young (18. 20) provincial girls know that we are, for the most part, primarily interested in sex, regardless of our level of interest in a lt relationship or marriage? or do they truly believe that there is a strong probability that having sex with us is going to lead to a ltr / marriage? i really don't want to screw young chicks if they sincerely believe it's the equivalent of me committing to a ltr / marriage, and me leaving town a day or two later would be devastating to them. but if they know the odds going in, then i can screw in with a clear conscience.

[QUOTE=Marconista]@ Amjeck.

Really? Where have you been?

In all the bars in Burgos or in EDSA Entertainment Complex, even in LAC you dont see many "punters" compared with the number of ladies. What you and I see as hotties may differ of course, hence guess we are both right!

On the other hand, I dont agree with Genkisiguru.

The barfine in EDSA increased from 1000 to 1200 a couple of years ago, and the girls have always asked 1500 for ST, and in LAC you can easily get a girl for a ST for 1000 (I met one cute one that hangs out in LAC in DiA and we both chatted about LAC before she suggested 1000 overnight).[/QUOTE]Hey Guys,

I'm glad my comments on pricing have stirred some interest. Let me state that I have been to PH exactly one time, and I've done exactly two girls in PH, so my comments were based on a tiny bit of first-hand experience, and more on prices mentioned consistently in these forums as well as my discussions with experienced mongers when I was in the market.

Also, my comments about Manila sex pricing seeming high were more in the context of things like PH per capita income, wages paid for non-sex work in PH, and what ST sex costs in other countries, like the US. 2, 500 pesos (US $55) for an overnight or 1, 500 for ST seem like a lot to me if viewed in this kind of purely economic analysis. 1, 000 seems more reasonable, although still somewhat high in this context.

Re: my comment about cartel pricing and supply and demand, I was speaking in terms of raw numbers of buyers and sellers in the market. How many potential "sellers" and potential "buyers" are there in PH on any given day? On a more micro level, the few nights I was in LA Cafe, there were about 5 girls (sellers) for each guy (buyer). Yet each girl told me the same pricing. There was no price competition. This is "cartel pricing", as we all learned in college economics class.

However, based upon my own limited experience in PH and from what I've read and heard from others, I think that Amjeck is correct that things are more competitive when buying in the "hottie" segment of the market. When I was in LAC, maybe there were 200 girls and 50 guys. But about 150 of the girls did not pass my minimal qualifications. So that left 50 girls I'd consider for P4P. The same amount of qualified sellers as buyers. I'd say maybe 10 of the girls were "hotties" to my taste. So, clearly, the competition shifts to the girls' (sellers) favor in the "hottie" market segment.

I'm looking forward to my upcoming second trip to PH, which will be several weeks and cover several areas of the country. I'll be curious to see if / how these "market dynamics" shift among the various locales.

[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]Hey Gangles,

If you're up for it, I'd love to read a topline summary of your experiences post-chaperone meeting. I'm interested to know what % of these provincial chaperoned first meetings have resulted in sex within 24 hours. In your experience, does getting the chaperone's approval to proceed with the date equate for the most part to getting a green light to have sex with the girl? And do the young (18. 20) provincial girls know that we are, for the most part, primarily interested in sex, regardless of our level of interest in a LT relationship or marriage? Or do they truly believe that there is a strong probability that having sex with us is going to lead to a LTR / marriage? I really don't want to screw young chicks if they sincerely believe it's the equivalent of me committing to a LTR / marriage, and me leaving town a day or two later would be devastating to them. But if they know the odds going in, then I can screw in with a clear conscience.[/QUOTE]On my last trip a student lady I know from Tagged was fairly insistent that we meet but my schedule was very tight. Twice she said she was with her Mom and waiting to meet me. So to make it easy I told them what my aprtment building was (well I actually told them the name of the condo block next to it) and mum and daughter seemed impressed.

Next day I agreed to meet the student if she came with anyone other than Mom. She came with a younger sister.

I left the younger sis at mall and me and student girl went for a drive. Somewhere in the drive we got to kissing and student girl confirmed she didn't know anything about sex but wanted to learn on my next trip.

I'm visiting Manila in a few days and student girl has confirmed she is fine to visit my condo, with no one else present. Lets see what happens.

Hey, G,

You are being too analytical.

Just read your last post, and transpose it to your own country.

Do women act like that?

Are they so mechanical and predictable?

Well, women in the Phils are just as variable and unpredictable in their responses.

I can understand that you want to maximise the number of roots that you have, and maybe also maximise the number of women that you root.

But there is a conflict here. If you want to maximum number of roots, and the most intense experiences, then in my opinion, you need to get one very sexy woman, and keep her with you all the time. That way you will get as many roots as you can get up. And she will love you for it. I usually have 3 roots per day this way. Morning bj, a nooner, and once in the evening, occasionally twice. But I spend a lot more time giving her orgasms, because that keeps her addicted to you.

But if you want the maximum number of women, then you need to accept that there will be failures. And the harder that you try, the more likely it is that you will fail.

So, I plan on having a schedule of meetings with regular women, then some backups also with regular women, then a third line with P4P. But even then, there are nights when I sleep alone. I had 3 nights alone on my last trip of 6 weeks. Too many, but no system is infallible.

In my opinion, you increase your likelihood of success if you meet and target a number of women on dating sites. I get them away from the dating site as quickly as possible, and onto regular email. And also onto a chat service, most prefer YM. Filipinas love chatting, it is some demonstration of your commitment to them. I personally hate it, a grossly inefficient means of communication, but they love it. And also, send them texts. They can generally not reply, too expensive. But they love getting your texts. And they can show these to their friends, so you get status in advance.

So I think you need to get your head sorted out first, then develop a plan. Every time you move location, the risk of failure goes up. Every time there is a new liaison, the risk goes up. The safest is if you stay in one place for an extended period of time. I had a month in Cebu, taking a very intensive and exhausting course. So almost no time to get around the malls for pickup etc. But even still, there was at least one woman every night. Sometimes 2. And one Sunday - day off - I had 4 women through the hotel in one day. I don't know what the staff in the hotel thought, but they were very discrete.

So sometimes the chaperone will be a sister, or cousin. It may take several hours till she is satisfied that you are OK, and give the green light. This may include a trip to a mall, eat at Jollibee, maybe some small gifts. But once she gives the green light, she will go and you are plain sailing. Just remember that maybe they have travelled by bus for 4 hours or so. With others, it may be half an hour. Mothers, I feed them, lunch or dinner, be an attentive gentleman. When she is satisfied that you are OK, she will go. Then it is green light, and the woman wil go with you straight away. Be skillful and sensitive, and kep your antennae working.

Good luck.

G

Filipinas never fail to amaze me.

On an earlier trip, late last year, I reported meeting a very tall, skinny woman right at the end of the trip who was both very horny, and very orgasmic. Mss C.

This last trip, we got together for almost a week.

She just loves to root, never gets too much of it till her clit or her c**t or both hurt too much to continue.

She has two types of orgasm. Short, sharp ones, and continuous, which can go on for half an hour or more.

Well, we were chatting about it this afternoon, and we have decided to try to separate what it is that gives her each type of orgasm. If we can find out what gives her the short, sharp ones, then we are going to try for 1,000 orgasms in one day.

We haven't sorted out how to keep count.

So we are looking at about 3 per minute for 5 hours.

Don't know if we can keep up the effort, but it is an interesting challenge. About 3 orgasms per minute for 5 hours.

Wow.

What a woman.

G

[QUOTE=Genkisugiru]
However, based upon my own limited experience in PH and from what I've read and heard from others, I think that Amjeck is correct that things are more competitive when buying in the "hottie" segment of the market. When I was in LAC, maybe there were 200 girls and 50 guys. But about 150 of the girls did not pass my minimal qualifications. So that left 50 girls I'd consider for P4P. The same amount of qualified sellers as buyers. I'd say maybe 10 of the girls were "hotties" to my taste. So, clearly, the competition shifts to the girls' (sellers) favor in the "hottie" market segment.[/QUOTE]

It is very difficult to generalize when it comes to LAC. I dropped in today (Mon) around 3 pm and it was not too busy but I reckon 80% of the women there today were 7 - 9s. I have NEVER seen so many really good-looking and well-presented girls before in LAC. I told 3 or 4 "hotties" who jumped on to me that I just wanted a drink first and to take my time. I picked the "hottest" looker in the room and chatted to her, and she was good to go S/T for 1000 immediately with no bartering or hesitation. It is Holy Week and I guess the girls are after cash to go back to the province for Easter.

My point is that generalising about market economics or about how numbers of hotties vs number of punters affects prices in LAC may be good in theory or as an academic discussion but every day/hour in that place is different and you just have to expect ANYTHING to be the norm when you walk in because there is no norm.

[QUOTE=Gangles]Filipinas never fail to amaze me.

She has two types of orgasm. Short, sharp ones, and continuous, which can go on for half an hour or more.

Well, we were chatting about it this afternoon, and we have decided to try to separate what it is that gives her each type of orgasm. If we can find out what gives her the short, sharp ones, then we are going to try for 1,000 orgasms in one day.

We haven't sorted out how to keep count.

So we are looking at about 3 per minute for 5 hours.

Don't know if we can keep up the effort, but it is an interesting challenge. About 3 orgasms per minute for 5 hours.

Wow.

What a woman.

G[/QUOTE]I have a Nurse friend, who always travels from near Subic to meet me whenever I'm in Manila.

She regularly gets between 30-50 orgasms in the 4 hours that we spend humping and jumping. I tried counting once but was impossible as they tended to come very fast and very close to each other. But she does let loose a " Yeah" every time and that tells me. The stomach contraction also demonstrates when she has orgasm.

Some women are just able to do this.

I'm happy to two or three, but then I'm older than some of the young buckeroos here. And a hell of a lot wiser too LOL.