Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2674986]I thought all the bars in Soi Made in Thailand were gutted out or torn down?

Have you gone to Buzzin Bar? Curious to know how his girls look.[/QUOTE]You're right about soi Made in Thailand. When we went to the bars I asked Sam what the complex was called and that's the name he gave me. But a few days later we walked to soi 7 and when we passed a big vacant lot, he told me that used to be SMIT! So unless the beer bar complex just to the side of Tree Town (a short walk behind Moonlight) has changed name, I received dud information!

As for Buzzin Bar, I've been keen to drop in repeatedly as I've seen his excellent videos on Youtube, but there have hardly been any girls in there, just a load of guys. Maybe I've just been very unlucky when I've walked past.

I over-indulged at breakfast, ordering extra sausage, bacon and toast. After all of the action I had yesterday, after breakfast I just wanted a lazy afternoon.

Later I met Sam at 5. 30 pm and we decided to go to sois 7 and 8, to see what is happening there. The answer sadly, is not very much. We walked down soi 7 and most of the beer bar complexes were completely empty. A few bars were open with just a smattering of girls. We turned on to Beach Road and then left again on to soi 8. It was slightly more lively but the girls were older and we didn't see even one bar that enticed us to stop for a drink.

The only bar we had seen with promise was Accienda, near the top of soi 7. Sadly they were live-streaming, with six pretty girls dancing and cavorting in front of a webcam. One of them was wearing a tiny pair of shorts on and was very pretty. Another was wearing a nurses outfit. I joked to her I was feeling unwell and needed mouth-to-mouth.

Fair to say our soi 7 and 8 experiment failed. We walked back towards Tree Town via a road of beer bars and places to eat, opposite Central mall, that seemed to have more promise than anything we'd seen on soi 7 or 8.

We went to Apple Bar on soi Buakhao where Sam bought a drink for the young, shy girl he likes. I bought one too, for a nice curvy older girl. There was free food of pork, noodle and vegetable soup and it was one of tastiest meals of the trip. 'A roy' I said to the waitress, showing off one of the few Thai phrases I know.

Next it was time to go to Annie Jacks. Sadly Lek wasn't there and a waitress informed me she'd gone on holiday for six days to Koh Samui. With a lucky customer no doubt. By the time she returns I'll be back in England, so our fledgling romance is over.

I was joined by a girl named Patti, who had a fabulous figure and a flirty personality. Interestingly she said 'you pay my bar-fine? 600 to the bar and I stay two hours for 2000'. I'd previously written off Annie Jacks as a bar you couldn't take the girls, but it's obviously up to the girls themselves. The gorgeous Lek had told me she got 19 drinks bought for her the night before, so it stands to reason that really pretty girls will want to stay in the bar.

We walked to Tree Town and sat down on stools at Blue Sky Bar. Almost immediately a Thai woman walking past recognised Sam from 15 years earlier. She used to work in a bar but apparently they never slept together. They chatted like long lost friends but Sam confessed to me later that he couldn't remember her at all.

But what was really interesting, was the girl stood next to the woman. It was her daughter and she was exceptionally beautiful.

Sam asked what her name was and the mum gave him a don't-even-think-about-it response. 'She not bar-girl like me, she work in mall. I look after my daughter'.

Luckily for me the pretty girl sat down on the stool next to mine and we chatted. She was only 20 but spoke really good English and we clicked straight away. She laughed, leaned in close and put her hand on my knee as the conservation went on. Her mum spotted this and literally wedged herself between me and her daughter. Cockblocked by the Mum!

After a while the mum went to the toilet so I was able to continue the conversation with the gorgeous girl, who I'll call A. We swapped Line details and agreed to meet after she finished work one day for coffee.

Somehow I'd scored a date with a non pay-for-play 20 year old stunner. The problem is when. I leave on Saturday and her shifts are long. Her next day off is after I go home.

I gave her and my future mother-in-law a big hug and Sam and I moved on to the bar where I bought a ladydrink for a pretty blond several days ago. I've walked past her bar a number of times since and not seen her there but tonight she was, albeit sat with a Korean customer. Promisingly, she saw me walk in and gave me a big smile.

We sat down at a table and I tactically picked a seat so I could keep an eye on her. Several times she looked over her shoulder, caught my glance and smiled.

I got engrossed in a conversation with Sam and then suddenly, as if by magic, she was stood at my side, wearing a big smile. I bought her a drink and it was lovely to catch up with her. But after just a few minutes she said 'I have to go, I'll be right back'.

She went back to the Korean man and clinked glasses with him. She had two lady-drinks at the same time! Or so I thought. Two minutes later she stood up and went to a table with a large western man where she had another ladydrink waiting for her. And after that she walked to another table where a guy with white hair had bought her a drink.

I don't think I can recall ever seeing a bargirl with four ladydrinks on the go at the same time!

When she came back to my table I decided to be decisive and offered to pay her bar-fine. You snooze, you lose in Pattaya. She nodded eagerly. The bar-fine was just 300 baht and she asked for 2000 for long-time, great value for such a pretty (and popular!) girl. I agreed and she disappeared again to finish her other ladydrinks.

She got changed in to jeans and a really pretty blue crop top and we walked hand-in-hand to Sweet Hearts, where she beat me at pool. I inadvertently potted the black in to the middle pocket. When will my luck change?!

Back in the room she said 'Me shy you, I don't know why'. I told her I had probably seen a thousand girls tonight but I picked her, a line which always goes down well with shy girls.

We showered (separately) and then she lay on the bed, wrapped in a towel, smile on her face. I leaned over and we softly kissed. The sex that followed was the kind of girlfriend sex I enjoy. I slowly fucked her in mish as we kissed and whenever I sucked her nipples or kissed her neck, she did little squeaky groans. She went on top and I lay back, admiring the view as she rode me. I'll miss sights like this when I'm back in England. I gave her oral and enjoyed watching her writhing about each time I sucked her clit.

Afterwards we chatted for an hour, then kissed some more, then fell asleep arm-in-arm. A really special girl.

After breakfast I decided to go on a mission.

I took a songthaew up 2nd Road and jumped out outside Terminal 21, where the beautiful 20 year old non pay-for-play girl I met last night works. We'd agreed to meet for a 'cake date' but I thought I'd surprise her at work.

I didn't know the name of the shop she works at, but I did know it sold a specific food item. How hard could it be to find her?

Very, as it happened. Terminal 21 is a huge mall, with each floor themed on a different country. There's a big Eiffel Tower in the middle, a Golden Gate bridge and a Leaning Tower of Pisa. As well as all of the shops, there are lots of restaurants and food stalls, a number of which fitted the description of where she said she worked last night. But the thing that made my task almost impossible is that literally everyone was wearing a mask on! How would I recognise her?

But my luck was in.

I wandered around each floor and thought my chances were akin to finding a needle in a haystack. I did spot one possible candidate though, busily working away at the back of a shop that I thought could be her. So I returned to the shop and when I went to the counter I saw a pretty girl crouched down behind it, eating noodles. Since she didn't have her mask on I could see her face. It was the pretty girl from the night before.

She looked up, her eyes widened and she physically jolted in surprise, then gave me a big smile. I didn't want to embarrass her in front of her workmates, so I didn't say anything to her, instead I bought some food from the other lady behind the counter and sat down at a table nearby. The pretty girl, A, kept glancing over to me and smiling as she prepared my food. Then as I was eating it, she picked up a cloth and started wiping the table next to mine, while giving me cute little grins. Her colleague must have suspected something because she wiped the same spot for about five minutes!

I finished my food and waved her and the other lady behind the counter goodbye.

I'll be honest, I wasn't sure what her reaction would be. She might have thought I'm a stalker! But she seemed to like the romantic gesture and messaged me on Line later saying it was a nice surprise and she was glad I came to see her.

I wish I had met her earlier in the holiday.

Afterwards I decided to walk down 2nd Road towards soi 6. I passed Drinking Street, which was eerily empty, apart from a few dogs sleeping in the shade. I looked for Lisa Bar opposite, where I once bar-fined one of the prettiest girls I've met in Thailand, but it was no longer there. A little further up is the very distinctive, colourful building that is Sabai Dee and then nearby Honey 2. Both are soapy massage parlours that specialise in body-to-body. Sadly they're closed at the moment due to Thailand's rather inconsistent covid restrictions.

I turned right on to soi 6 and wandered down the road. My intention was to cut through to Beach Road and then hail a songthaew but soi 6 has a habit of reeling you in. A saw a curvy chick with a nice face and decided to dispense with the formalities and asked her up to the room straight away. The room cost 300 and she was 1000 short-time.

The blowjob was one of the best of the trip. She deepthroated me, with eye contact, which I always find sexy, then I fucked her doggy style. I pushed her to lie flat on the bed and continued to fuck her from behind, slapping in to her arse-cheeks as she thrust her bum up to me. She rode me, then took my condom off and finished me with a handjob and blowjob super saver combo.

A very enjoyable quickie.

I'm impressed with soi 6. There are a cluster of bars halfway down that has a really good selection of young and pretty girls that could easily be working in a gogo bar.

At 6 pm I met Sam outside my hotel and we walked to Tree Town. We started with a beer at Blue Sky Bar, always a good place to watch the world go by. You see some pretty girls walk past, that's for sure.

Speaking of pretty girls, the stunner I bar-fined from one of the neighbouring bars was chatting with a Korean man. 20 minutes later they were leaving the bar together. She's such a standout girl, she'll get bar-fined early every night.

We moved on to French Kiss, which often can be quiet at the start of the night, but busy later. They have a little stage where people can dance. There are some nice girls in this bar.

Our plan tonight was to spend most of the evening in Moonlight, as there was a birthday party and we know a lot of the girls there. I have my eye on a beautiful tall, skinny girl with braces on her teeth and Sam has his own harem of girls who flock around him whenever we walk in!

Since we knew we'd be in there all night, we decided to buy a bottle of sang som whiskey and a bottle of vodka. They cost 2800 but we'd spend more than that on drinks and ladydrinks anyway.

The night was great fun. It was alcohol fuelled, with regular clinking of glasses with lots of girls, all of us getting steadily drunker.

The tall skinny girl was wild. She kept pouring whiskeys in to our shot glasses, and no sooner had we downed them, she'd top us up again. We must have drank 15 or 20 shots in no time at all.

And then a weird thing happened that I can't explain.

I stood up, left the bar and walked back to my hotel. I didn't pay my bill, I didn't even say goodbye to Sam or the girl I really like. I don't remember doing it, I can't remember anything about the walk along soi Buakhao, I can't even remember going to bed. I'm amazed I could find my hotel I was so drunk!

I've never experienced memory loss quite like it. I'd obviously drank far too much whiskey, too quickly, and suddenly blacked out, yet still somehow managed to walk back to my hotel in a zombified state.

I woke in the middle of the night sprawled ungainly on top of the bed, my clothes, face mask and room key card spread equidistantly across the floor. The room was spinning. Hangover from hell tomorrow I thought to myself.

So far Soi 6 and tree town are the only happening areas. Walking street has only a few bars working and mostly repairing and construction is going on there. Anyone know about any Soapies in Pattaya? I miss the soapies of Bangkok.

Walking street update.

Palace named bar on Walking street is a total rip off. Why? I agreed for a Lady drink for a girl, and then 2 girls came up with Tequila shots, they offered us the shots. I thought it is the LD for the girl, but no it was extra. This way I was charged for 2 LD which I absolutely did not like. I told Mamasan but still she did not intervene and kept the 2 LDs back on table. I just gave money and came out. They did not do anything to stop me. Such a rip off.

1200 Bar fine and 3000 Baht for girl, Total 4200. They can come down to 3000 total but still it is too much if you compare to other girls and bars, it is actually double.

Pin-up and Fahrenheit are another rip offs as you cannot touch the girls much.

Hope this benefits you guys.

[QUOTE=Visal;2675843]Palace named bar on Walking street is a total rip off. Why? I agreed for a Lady drink for a girl, and then 2 girls came up with Tequila shots, they offered us the shots. I thought it is the LD for the girl, but no it was extra. This way I was charged for 2 LD which I absolutely did not like. I told Mamasan but still she did not intervene and kept the 2 LDs back on table. I just gave money and came out. They did not do anything to stop me. Such a rip off.[/QUOTE]It does not sound like a ripoff as much as it sounds like you not knowing what goes on in clubs these days. What you describe is a shooter girl. They usually go around the club carrying bottles or shots on a tray or in a holder for impulse buying.

The only way I will say this was a rip off is if the girls arrived with only the 1 lady drink you ordered and nothing extra to keep going around to sell to other people.

However, in your story you say they offered US the shots, meaning they had more than 1 drink to pass out. It did not cross your mind why you were being offered something that you did not order?

Hey, I tried to tell you guys to relax and chill before you start playing drink fairy. You would have gotten your bearings and saw how things were working.

[QUOTE=Visal;2675843]Walking street update.

Palace named bar on Walking street is a total rip off. Why? I agreed for a Lady drink for a girl, and then 2 girls came up with Tequila shots, they offered us the shots. I thought it is the LD for the girl, but no it was extra. This way I was charged for 2 LD which I absolutely did not like. I told Mamasan but still she did not intervene and kept the 2 LDs back on table. I just gave money and came out. They did not do anything to stop me. Such a rip off.

1200 Bar fine and 3000 Baht for girl, Total 4200. They can come down to 3000 total but still it is too much if you compare to other girls and bars, it is actually double.

Pin-up and Fahrenheit are another rip offs as you cannot touch the girls much.
.[/QUOTE]Palace and many other gogo bars have gogo girls who take turns selling shooters. The Japanese and Korean guys love to look rich in front of their girls so this is why it's done. They will approach guys who they see are buying lady drinks for girls. Not sure why you think it's a rip off. You bought 2 shots so not sure why you expected not to pay for them. I'm not aware of any bar in the world that offer 2 free tequila shots if you buy 1 drink for a girl. Personally I have never bought a shooter from one of these girls. The girls selling them will just skip me now and move on to the next sucker. If it's one of the girls I feel like feeling up that night I will tell her to come back to me for a normal drink after she's done selling her tray of shooters.

Gogo prices are not the same as a regular bar. 4200ST in a Walking Street gogo bar is cheaper than what it was pre-COVID. You are actually getting a discount. The 1200 BF is not negotiable. The 3000 to the girl is. She will drop the price if she likes you and you don't look or act rich. Yes you may be able to find cheaper girls elsewhere but for me it's about getting the best looking girl.

Not sure about how it is now but pre-COVID unless the gogo girl doesn't like you reciprocal touching was never an issue with any of them.

Without the loud dance music, girls dancing on stage, and some nudity, gogo bars don't have the value right now. However, if you pop in and see the hottest girl you've seen that week then you can BF the girl.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2675884]Palace and many other gogo bars have gogo girls who take turns selling shooters. The Japanese and Korean guys love to look rich in front of their girls so this is why it's done. They will approach guys who they see are buying lady drinks for girls. Not sure why you think it's a rip off. You bought 2 shots so not sure why you expected not to pay for them. I'm not aware of any bar in the world that offer 2 free tequila shots if you buy 1 drink for a girl. Personally I have never bought a shooter from one of these girls. The girls selling them will just skip me now and move on to the next sucker. If it's one of the girls I feel like feeling up that night I will tell her to come back to me for a normal drink after she's done selling her tray of shooters.

Gogo prices are not the same as a regular bar. 4200ST in a Walking Street gogo bar is cheaper than what it was pre-COVID. You are actually getting a discount. The 1200 BF is not negotiable. The 3000 to the girl is. She will drop the price if she likes you and you don't look or act rich. Yes you may be able to find cheaper girls elsewhere but for me it's about getting the best looking girl.

Not sure about how it is now but pre-COVID unless the gogo girl doesn't like you reciprocal touching was never an issue with any of them.

Without the loud dance music, girls dancing on stage, and some nudity, gogo bars don't have the value right now. However, if you pop in and see the hottest girl you've seen that week then you can BF the girl.[/QUOTE]Agree with Mr. E and Banana Boi. I was in Pattaya in Feb. 2020 just before Covid. Most of the WS bars I frequented had shot girls strolling around in addition to ladydrinks. Barfines were 1500 Baht before midnight and 1000 Baht after with LT prices from 3000-5000 Baht depending on the girl and your negotiating skills. While I agree that Covid has dramatically altered pricing with the lack of tourists, the Go-go's and girls will obviously want to reestablish the market.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2675884]Palace and many other gogo bars have gogo girls who take turns selling shooters. The Japanese and Korean guys love to look rich in front of their girls so this is why it's done. They will approach guys who they see are buying lady drinks for girls. Not sure why you think it's a rip off. You bought 2 shots so not sure why you expected not to pay for them. I'm not aware of any bar in the world that offer 2 free tequila shots if you buy 1 drink for a girl. Personally I have never bought a shooter from one of these girls. The girls selling them will just skip me now and move on to the next sucker. If it's one of the girls I feel like feeling up that night I will tell her to come back to me for a normal drink after she's done selling her tray of shooters.

Gogo prices are not the same as a regular bar. 4200ST in a Walking Street gogo bar is cheaper than what it was pre-COVID. You are actually getting a discount. The 1200 BF is not negotiable. The 3000 to the girl is. She will drop the price if she likes you and you don't look or act rich. Yes you may be able to find cheaper girls elsewhere but for me it's about getting the best looking girl.

Not sure about how it is now but pre-COVID unless the gogo girl doesn't like you reciprocal touching was never an issue with any of them.

Without the loud dance music, girls dancing on stage, and some nudity, gogo bars don't have the value right now. However, if you pop in and see the hottest girl you've seen that week then you can BF the girl.[/QUOTE]This is useful information! Is this the same type of pricing I should expect for Thaifriendly "non pros" (who are obviously not non pros)? I have been to BKK about 10 times, but I am venturing out to Pattaya in May for the very first time. It may not be what it was "back in the day", but neither am I. It looks like there are lots of options and it still looks to be lots of fun.

As predicted, I woke up hungover. I stepped out of bed to get a drink of water but the room was still spinning. I gulped down half a bottle and went back to bed.

Sam messaged me at 10 am to see if I was okay to meet him got breakfast. The answer was a resounding no. I've never been as drunk as I was last night and now I was paying for it. It won't surprise you to hear I spent the whole day in my room.

'Are you out tonight?' asked Sam early evening. I conducted a fitness test, which comprised of me attempting to stand up. I felt okay so decided to go for it.

We met outside my hotel and headed for Tree Town, walking past the young massage girls on soi Buakhao, the pretty girls lined up on stools outside Sugar Sugar and then the cluster of busy bars on the right, like Annie Jacks and Scooter.

As is customary, we started our night with a quiet drink at Blue Sky Bar, which gave us chance to go in to detail about the night before.

I half expected Sam to be angry for me leaving the bar without paying but he was completely understanding and recognised that I'd been plied with far too much whiskey. He said that I seemed completely fine before I just stood up and walked away. He confirmed that he had paid my bill for me, so I very sheepishly reimbursed him.

His night had been a disaster. He was planning to bar-fine one of the two cute young girls who sat with him most of the night, but towards the end they both disappeared and before he realised what was happening, they were being marched out by two customers who had sneakily bar-fined them from under Sam's nose. He then went to a beer bar to bar-fine an older lady he often admired the figure of. She quoted him 1500 baht for one hour, no blowjob and no kissing! Ridiculous price and a heavily reduced menu! He decided to give up and do what he always does when he doesn't get a girl, treat himself to a Subway on the way home. It was closed.

We stopped off at another beer bar where I bought a ladydrink for a girl I'd previously bar-fined. She seems to really like me, smiling constantly, holding my hand and giggling cutely. 'Will you two just get a room!' joked Sam. I told her I would pay her bar-fine either Thursday or Friday and take her to Pattaya Beach Club.

Sam bought a drink for a pretty girl with a fantastic figure, who we hadn't seen previously on our nights at the bar. New girls are appearing all the time.

We were tempted to go in to are&see and at Lai but we were keen to go to Moonlight, to pick the bones out of what happened the night before. Sam's cute young girls normally rush to his side but they were noticeably standoffish, as if embarrassed. Sam called the manager over and explained what had happened and how they just left him and went with other customers. A few other girls crowded around and there were some raised words in Thai. I'd have loved to have known what was being said. As far as I could establish, the two pretty young girls next to Sam had been told by the tall, skinny girl I'm interested in, to go with the other men.

The young girls were both probably as drunk as I was. I was so drunk I just upped and left without paying, so when they were told what to do by a senior girl, they probably just obeyed her order. You've got to remind yourself constantly in Pattaya, these girls are working.

There was a strangely tense atmosphere in the bar (not surprising as Sam is probably their best customer) but life's too short to bear grudges and Sam bought the two girls a drink.

The tall, skinny girl I like sat down and immediately asked for a drink. I told her she asked for drinks too much and said if she talked to me first then I would offer her one. She followed my prep talk and was really fun company for the next hour and didn't pester me at all. She was taking photos of us together on her phone, always a good sign.

Sam and I went to Sweet Hearts when I started feeling rough again. I decided to head back to my hotel. It's disappointing to have a girl-free night in Pattaya but if you're not well, there's not much you can do. All of the sang som I was force-fed the night before has a lot to answer to.

Despite the fact I felt sick and my stomach was growling menacingly, I walked up soi Honey, to see if I was tempted by a late night massage with extras. There were a few nice girls but I ditched the idea as my stomach was doing cartwheels.

I was in bed by ten. Within an hour I received three different Line messages from girls from Moonlight, including one asking if I wanted to meet her. If I wasn't I'll I'd have jumped at the chance.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2675991]This is useful information! Is this the same type of pricing I should expect for Thaifriendly "non pros" (who are obviously not non pros)?[/QUOTE]Why would you expect pricing for chicks that are not hookers? Or are you using non-pro to mean something other than not a prostitute? Chicks that are hookers on TF have no problem saying how much you give me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2675873]It does not sound like a ripoff as much as it sounds like you not knowing what goes on in clubs these days. What you describe is a shooter girl. They usually go around the club carrying bottles or shots on a tray or in a holder for impulse buying.

The only way I will say this was a rip off is if the girls arrived with only the 1 lady drink you ordered and nothing extra to keep going around to sell to other people.

However, in your story you say they offered US the shots, meaning they had more than 1 drink to pass out. It did not cross your mind why you were being offered something that you did not order?

Hey, I tried to tell you guys to relax and chill before you start playing drink fairy. You would have gotten your bearings and saw how things were working.[/QUOTE]
Yea I did not know this concept. The sequence happened that I agreed to LD and then instead of giving the whisly LD, the tequila rotating tray shots came and I told the girl to take her LD. She took it and then the mamasan came with the ordered whisky LD. I did not even know what she had ordered. Anyways, after me telling mamasan to cancel 1 drink, she did not. In my eyes it is a scam this way. Anyways, it was enough for me to get up pay the bill and find something better.

Let me know if you know any soapies in Pattaya Mr. E.

I went to an area called as Na klua today, they say that only a few people know about this place. Anyways, was decent pricing and good girls for short time only. They do not accept Long time, so I had to come back from there.

At 2 pm you will find one in two Soi 6 clubs open. Most open clubs are clustered on the side closer to Beach Road. I don't think bars that are closed at 2 pm open later in the day but I could be wrong. Quality has been picking up slightly over the last 2 months.

There are now a few ok-looking SWs on Beach Road at night. This is also an improvement compared to January-February.

Do any of you guys have an opinion on whether it's worth it to try and take vacation within the next few months to Thailand?

I know there's a current advisory from the US not to fly to Thailand because of the covid-19 situation. I would hate to fly there and then everything shuts down yet again.

Also, has anyone done the day 5 self test? What was that like?

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2675991]This is useful information! Is this the same type of pricing I should expect for Thaifriendly "non pros" (who are obviously not non pros)? [/QUOTE]I usually pay something between 1000 to 1200 for a ST with a TF girl. Sometimes a bit more for a young looker, but never more than 1500. This is for BBBJ and BBFS. CIP or CIM is often included.