Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1833556]Agreed 100%. The gal should have to sit there at least the duration of one dance rotation. Personally I like the way GoGos operate in the PI much better. Buy the gal a drink and she does not have to dance. When the gal downs the drink or takes two sips and leaves, she is simply ripping off the customer. Shame on her and shame on the bar for allowing this to happen. Ultimately it is the responsibility of management to make and enforce policy on matters such as these. It really is amazing what guys allow these gals and establishments to get away with. Thinking with the little head only.[/QUOTE]Yes. That's what the original post was about. The girl taking a sip from a drink and then gone. That a load of crap (and the guy doesn't need to motivate her to stay for a few minutes). If a girl did that to me, that would be the last drink she will ever get. And I will let mama know about too. Afterall, the guy is paying for her company. IMO, if a guy is buying the girl an drink, she should 'at least' sit with the guy for 5-10 minutes.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1833391] .... I am Farang and do not feel discriminated against. O.K. Its known some girls are dick scared and prefer Asian size. However they could still look for a drink from Farang. Naturally my favourites are not dick scared girls.[/QUOTE]Funny you mention that about a girl being dick scared. That happened to me in Jakarta. I wasn't getting the right girls to come over, vibe not there. Didn't know why. So I was having a beer and talking with an Indo guy sitting near me (he spoke English). We called mama over and .... turns out some were afraid of 'big size'. It's not like they checked my package or anything. They were just dick scared because I am white guy. Finally had her call me over one or two to choose from who weren't afraid. LOL.

Could somebody please Google the from dusk till dawn cheech speach and post it here? The one where he goes on about pussy, feel it's appropriate with the amount on offer here. 36 hours in town, jet lag but still got 13 pops in.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1833589]Could somebody please Google the from dusk till dawn cheech speach and post it here? The one where he goes on about pussy, feel it's appropriate with the amount on offer here. 36 hours in town, jet lag but still got 13 pops in.[/QUOTE]As I'm sitting here waiting for my girl to show up, I looked up the movie. Found it on the first link. Here you go.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FCOAEPHHM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1833462]So bars have some girls struggling, and some making very good money indeed. Full spectrum. In my experience, the diligent stunning girls making really big money are few. Some could make over 100k per month if they did not get "sick" and turn up every day.However I notice my favourite girls are missing more often then not. I have no clue how much these girls make per month. It probably varies wildly. Some seem to work only when they need money badly.[/QUOTE]I know a girl who lives at Lumpini Place (Rama IX) in her own rented condo, drives a Honda Civic, wears really nice branded clothers and accessories to match and goes out for dinner by her self to a nice place once in 2 weeks or so.

She has retired from the GoGo scene so I will not name her. Goes by the initials JJ. So yes, I have no clue how she makes that money but she makes me happy when I visit Bangkok. As you say, old generosities are not forgotten in most cases. Everyone wants to be treated well. Give respect and you will get respect in return.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1833568]Funny you mention that about a girl being dick scared. That happened to me in Jakarta. I wasn't getting the right girls to come over, vibe not there. Didn't know why. So I was having a beer and talking with an Indo guy sitting near me (he spoke English). We called mama over and .... turns out some were afraid of 'big size'. It's not like they checked my package or anything. They were just dick scared because I am white guy. Finally had her call me over one or two to choose from who weren't afraid. LOL.[/QUOTE]Happened to me in Angeles of all places on earth last month. The girl was trembling like a leaf when the tool developed a mind of its own. Apparently, she had been barfined only twice and both time by by K-boys. I was kind to her and let go after the BBBJ attempt also failed.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1833506]Enterance to FKK is 50 - 70 Euros or 2600 baht. That's over 10 lady drinks! How many do you buy?[/QUOTE]The FKK fee entrance is a fee that one pays for use of the facilities, food, and free beers at some FKKs. More important, it's fixed. As for LDs, the longer you stay at any one place, the more you end up spending, unless you are very good at dodging the various requests from the girls, mamasan. Much easier to budget for the entrance fee.

Stop Press. Cowboy bars are now allowed to open till 2 AM. Some bars still closed at 1 AM since they did not know the new rule. I was eating a burger in @Corner as 1AM was passed. Staff asked the police who said then stated the bars stay open till 2am. Not today only.

Crazy House had a lot of girls today at 9.30PM onwards. Not sure why more than the weekend. Maybe girls struggling to have the rent money. Many days I could not find an exciting girl. Today 3 girls of interest. Could have BFed any one of the 3. Tall Oom (91) returned after many weeks away. Therefore she has no salary for the last month. Ging (40) arrived very late. Donut (83) is also tall, slim, curvy and very pretty to my taste. Added to the "to do" list. Believe I previously met her briefly last year. Line up should be even bigger Wednesday since it is pay day. Oom may not show since she will receive no pay whatsoever. Ging may have lost all her salary as well. Donut hasn't been in much either. My other favourite Paeng was still missing.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1833702]The FKK fee entrance is a fee that one pays for use of the facilities, food, and free beers at some FKKs. More important, it's fixed. As for LDs, the longer you stay at any one place, the more you end up spending, unless you are very good at dodging the various requests from the girls, mamasan. Much easier to budget for the entrance fee.[/QUOTE]The FKK entrance fee is about 60 to 80 EUR, that's about 2300 to 3100 baht. I never reach that amount on drinks, ladydrinks and BF in one evening in Bangkok. And for the price of one hour with one of the ladies in an FKK, I can get a Thai cutie for the whole night in my hotel room.

One cannot compare German FKKs and Thai agogo clubs. In one afternoon and evening in an FKK in Germany, I easily spend aout 300 EUR. That money buys me three nights of fun in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1833806]The FKK entrance fee is about 60 to 80 EUR, that's about 2300 to 3100 baht. I never reach that amount on drinks, ladydrinks and BF in one evening in Bangkok. And for the price of one hour with one of the ladies in an FKK, I can get a Thai cutie for the whole night in my hotel room.

One cannot compare German FKKs and Thai agogo clubs. In one afternoon and evening in an FKK in Germany, I easily spend aout 300 EUR. That money buys me three nights of fun in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Plus the premium feeling of being in holiday.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1833806]The FKK entrance fee is about 60 to 80 EUR, that's about 2300 to 3100 baht. I never reach that amount on drinks, ladydrinks and BF in one evening in Bangkok. And for the price of one hour with one of the ladies in an FKK, I can get a Thai cutie for the whole night in my hotel room ... 300 EUR. That money buys me three nights of fun in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Living our life as a movable feast, we enjoy the best situation of what is available wherever we go and wherever we are. There's no comparison or reckoning to be made. If you are where you are because that's all you can afford, no reason to think about what you're missing, much less trying to rationalize it here. Just enjoy yourself with what you have.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1833558]Sure I agree. Anyone would be pissed off if girl takes two sips and disappears.

Happened to me once that I bought a girl a drink, and it was slow to arrive. She had to go dance before her drink even arrived. While she was dancing, my favorite Ging turned up in plain clothes about to exit CH to go eat. Ging soon changed her mind. My previous companion 140 (a newbie) disappeared, presumably too shy to show up now that Ging (40) had arrived. I struggled to remember her number correctly to reconcile the bill. Don't know where 140 disappeared to. I could not find her for a while to call her back for her drink. Could have been in toilet, who knows? I did not regard it as a scam. Just some shy girls don't know what to do when they have been supplanted. I am sure she hoped to be BFed initially and may have been peeved to have been replaced.

Anyway a bit annoying to buy a completely wasted drink. Shit happens sometimes. But not all the time. It's unusual and problem partly caused by buying the drink at the wrong time, since I called her over also at non ideal time. I learn my lesson.
[/QUOTE]If you were prompted to look for the girl so she would actually sit for the Lady Drink you bought for her and you later felt it fair to reconcile your bill to account for her not even touching it, I would say even you knew she should have sat with you with that drink. Your excusing it as shyness rather than her ditching you and abandoning the unwritten agreement between customers and dancers re Lady Drinks, a scam, is merely engaging in a bit of ego-flattering self-deception, which we all engage in often enough.

In fact, I would say we engage in a bit of ego-flattering self-deception when we write off a girl for whom we've just bought a Lady Drink on the basis of "poor chemistry" or even our "lack of interest" and allow or encourage her to move on after a brief few minutes of sitting with her Lady Drink. There was plenty of chemistry when she was smiling at you like a banshee from the stage, plenty of chemistry when you assessed her face, body and demeanor as a prospective P4 P partner for the night or in the future, plenty of chemistry when you called her over, she sat with you and snuggled while you discussed buying her a Lady Drink. So why would there suddenly be such a notable decline in chemistry just because a Lady Drink had been placed on the table in front of her? More often than many of us would like to admit to ourselves, it is because the minute that Lady Drink hit the table she had accomplished virtually everything all that previous chemistry she was exuding meant to accomplish. Now it is time for her to drop the chemistry on the assumption it will be you who "loses interest" in her and lets her go so she can churn up some chemistry with the next potential Lady Drink buyer on the other side of the bar.

That customer has been hit by the same "Lady Drink hustle and vanish" con as the one I described, the only difference being she vanished mentally and with her projected chemistry rather than physically. And I would submit the decision to vanish one way vs another is likely determined by the layout of the bar; saying "have to go dance now" works better when the bar is big enough and has multiple dance areas where it won't be such an obvious Lady Drink hustle when he doesn't see her mounting the stage anytime soon whereas her altering the level of chemistry she exuded prior to the Lady Drink hitting the table works better for her in a smaller bar or when there is only one stage area available.

[QUOTE=Wanderer31;1831362]Hello friends,

I am visiting BKK for the first time starting 6/ Feb for 3 days. Have already booked a girl friendly hotel, need some pointers / guidance / contacts of decent first in-call service that I should get into my hotel. Please share reliable contacts which are already experienced by you, rates, service. Within reasonable budget for ST.

My PM is active and any help will be highly appreciated.

Thank you in advance. I can reciprocate with similar contacts in India.[/QUOTE]Unlike India, most of us don't "pimp". Read the forum and enough info is there. Go out to the various gogo bars, soapys, BJ bars, call the escorts services (yes there a thread for that). Good or bad experiences make you a little wiser and better prepared for your next visit.

My comment about the FKK scene had more to do with being approached non stop and being asked to buy ladydrinks at any bar you sat down at, haven't visited Hooters yet, maybe that's the place to go. And they always have friends in need. Have to say, I really do favor the beer pricing in Pattaya vs Bangkok. 55 baht vs 90 baht at most bars, you walk into a bar past 8 pm in Bangkok and your paying almost triple what the gogo's are offering in Pattaya.

Got to talking with a retired Australian who lives in Thailand (mid 60's) who has a 32 year old Thai girlfriend. He said he tried everything, from dishing out a little money at every request to a weekly amount but settled into giving her 25 k baht per month as spending cash. Had an interesting talk on the concept of 'keeping a hooker' vs 'being married'. Only difference we could come up with is the later one is given a credit card to make said purchases. Either way you are going to end up paying for it. Also got to talking about tipping, he mentioned if the girl did fantastic service and your going to leave a tip "for her" that you should take it out of the folder and put the money in her hand. This way the tip is hers, not to be split up with the other wait staff. He said if a girl is seen taking money from the folder and putting it in her pocket, she would probably be fired.

Hit a few gogo's, rainbow 3, spankies and Bangkok bunnies. My favorite at rainbow 3 isn't working for the last 3 months and the talent is somewhat lacking. The small stage and being constantly bugged by the staff will make this a club I'll avoid the rest of the trip. Spankies on the other hand is just way too crowded although I do enjoy the atmosphere. I did find an old favorite from last trip still working at Bangkok Bunnies, so that visit paid off. Many attractive girls and having two stages with seats that overlook the action is now a favorite of mine. Will probably check out Nataree later tonight and on the way back swing thru soi cowboy.

SmooT hiE,

You believe what you want. If you believe everything is so sinister, so be it. I have a positive attitide and look for evidence and logic. Try to be more serene and less paranoid.

We cannot hope to understand or know all about the experience of another as we were not present.

Bars have well behaved girls and badly behaved girls and newbie girls who don't know how to behave and raunchy girls and shy girls and even scared of being groped girls. Annoying girls yes. Selfish girls are there of course. Honest girls are also there.

We have to assess what types of girls we are dealing with. I have a good time. If I get the wrong type of girl ocassionally, I just move on to the better ones. No big deal. Girls don't all behave in exactly the same way. Most girls I meet are behaving okay Otherwise I would not be there. My biggest problem is only what girls turn out to be dick scared on the bed. Using regular girls avoids that risk.

Likewise bars have a broad range of customers. Stingy or generous. Up tight or laid back relaxed. Aggressive or mild. Those who like girls to come to them or those who like to make their own choice. Those who look down on girls or those who treat them like a human. Clean or stinky. etc. blah blah. Girls evaluate the customer and may behave differently too. Many or most girls know it's useless to come to me unless I gave them the signal. I get pestered by dancing girls fairly rarely. Not so much as I cannot handle. One tactic is I am good at ignoring girls and not making eye contact unless I am really interested in a girl. Also do not go straight into grope mode with girls I have only just met. Even nude girls have to get some level of respect, unless they are acting super raunchy.

The bad fat mamasan was long ago fired. Unfortunately they still have some waitresses that are a bit annoying. That is why I use my special regular short waitress Aem who is totally honest and does not annoy me. A good girl. She can even give hints whether other girls are good character or not.