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[QUOTE=Euro100]Yeah, the "main" airport thing is the problem. Ryan Air flies only out of Frankfurt Hahn, which is 100 miles or so away. But there is always sixti.com for a cheap rental car, too.[/QUOTE]
Add about 200 miles for round trip. Assume car gets 25mpg (8 gallons) at 9 dollars a gallon and you instantly add 72 dollars to the trip without even adding the drive time. No such a great bargain after all.
[QUOTE=Gattonero]The Bavarian
[url=http://www.gapinfo.de/gesundheitsamt/alle/gesetz/seuche/hyv/dv.htm]Hygiene-Verordnung[/url], which at clause 6 enforces prostitutes to use condoms for sexual activities, use the term "Geschlechtsverkehr". What does this term includes exactly: HJ? BJ? DATY (female condoms are marketed)? I see a phrase from this [url=http://www.muenchen.de/cms/prod1/mde/_de/rubriken/Rathaus/50_kvr/ordnung/sperrbezirk/pdf/prostitutionsbroschuere.pdf]guide for prostitutes in Munich[/url] often mentioned, where it states that the term "Geschlechtsverkehr" applies also to oral sex. Is this an interpretation or a mandatory advice?[/QUOTE]I haven't been to CoLa in Augsburg since the "rules" changed. But official club policy is that BBBJ is not allowed. The club has no choice in this matter, it seems.
What happens on the mattress, I do not know.
[QUOTE=Gattonero]The Bavarian
[url=http://www.gapinfo.de/gesundheitsamt/alle/gesetz/seuche/hyv/dv.htm]Hygiene-Verordnung[/url], which at clause 6 enforces prostitutes to use condoms for sexual activities, use the term "Geschlechtsverkehr". What does this term includes exactly: HJ? BJ? DATY (female condoms are marketed)? I see a phrase from this [url=http://www.muenchen.de/cms/prod1/mde/_de/rubriken/Rathaus/50_kvr/ordnung/sperrbezirk/pdf/prostitutionsbroschuere.pdf]guide for prostitutes in Munich[/url] often mentioned, where it states that the term "Geschlechtsverkehr" applies also to oral sex. Is this an interpretation or a mandatory advice?[/QUOTE]
As you have noted, the critical word in the section on prostitution is [i]Geschlechtsverkehr[/i].
[quote=Bayerische Gesundheitsamt]Kondomzwang bei Prostituierten
Weibliche und männliche Prostituierte und deren Kunden sind verpflichtet, beim Geschlechtsverkehr, Kondome zu verwenden.[/quote]
In other words, condoms are required during [i]Geschlechtsverkehr[/i] or GV.
The strict interpretation of GV is intercourse. The question you have rightly asked (and one I ask myself) is whether this includes other forms of contact.
Mind you this [i]Ordnung[/i] also mentions contact that doctors, dentists, manicurists, tatoo artists, usw. may have with their patients/clients.
The second document though has a section which effectively defines what GV includes and it does say specifically that OV or [i]Oralverkehr[/i] is included.
[quote=Ratgeber fuer Prostituierte]Oralverkehr gehört zum Geschlechtsverkehr und kann ungeschützt z.B. auch Hepatitis und
Syphilis übertragen.[/quote]
BBBJ is [i]streng Verboten[/i] in Bayern and a CDL is subject to fines if she is caught performing it. This isn't a recommendation but rather a [i]Vorschrift[/i] with fines which are assessed for [i]Ordnungswidrig[/i] activities.
Sounds like this includes [i]Freier[/i] going down on the women too. (One of my favorite activites, by the way. Rats! One more reason to avoid Bayern except for the usual things one can do in that neck of the woods such as enjoy the Bier.)
[QUOTE=Akibono]Add about 200 miles for round trip. Assume car gets 25mpg (8 gallons) at 9 dollars a gallon and you instantly add 72 dollars to the trip without even adding the drive time. No such a great bargain after all.[/QUOTE]
25 mpg in the US maybe but here in Europe unless your driving a Porsche you're going to be getting 35-40mpg, which is about 8 miles to the litre. According to the routeplanner (viaMichellin) it is about 160 miles round trip so that is 20 litres at €1.40 per litre it will work out at €28 or about $40. If you get a diesel car then fuel is cheaper (€1.30) and you will get more mileage. So if you get a cheap Ryan Air flight for less than €1 (as Polar and other members do) you could easily do the complete trip (without Hotel) for €30.
[QUOTE=Warsteiner]25 mpg in the US maybe but here in Europe unless your driving a Porsche you're going to be getting 35-40mpg, which is about 8 miles to the litre. According to the routeplanner (viaMichellin) it is about 160 miles round trip so that is 20 litres at €1.40 per litre it will work out at €28 or about $40. If you get a diesel car then fuel is cheaper (€1.30) and you will get more mileage. So if you get a cheap Ryan Air flight for less than €1 (as Polar and other members do) you could easily do the complete trip (without Hotel) for €30.[/QUOTE] You are not gonna get 35-40mpg unless you're driving like an old lady. With a hardon on the way to FKK I think Aki has the right consumption figured out ;-)
[quote=henio]you are not gonna get 35-40mpg unless you're driving like an old lady. with a hardon on the way to fkk i think aki has the right consumption figured out ;-)[/quote]
didnt get the james bond feature's this time, but my little nissan micra car had just enough car (but really lacked any engine power) to get me around germany.
quoted from a test drive article : despite a relatively high continental cruising speed, the average of 54.3mpg was impressive. on its usual city trips in london, economy often creeps above 60mpg, making the overall consumption a penny-pinching 58.7mpg.
i drove from dusseldorf to goldentime...then all the way down to oase...then up to world...then it hit 1/4 tank...and i was doing extra driving besides just going from point a to point b. had no problem cruising at 140kph either.
[QUOTE=Eduardo Corrochi]Hello everyone,
1) I was wondering if anyone had information about what cheap places to stay in Frankfurt. I'm going there the second week in october and have not made any reservation for any place, reason being, I really don't wanna spend so much money in accomodations. Also, if you advise how to get to that (those) places from the airport, that would be great.
2) I'm planning to visit some FKK clubs while Im there. And Im interested in going to Pauschalclubs and Partytreffs. Any information about how they work and where to find the good ones will be appreciated.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Check [url]www.hrs.de[/url]. You will find accomodations starting with really low fares.
[QUOTE=Italy 1974]As a regular customer of Traum Paradies I find the management very concerned about the privacy issue.
As other senior members have already pointed out, you will not be admitted inside the club if there is another customer in the hall. And when it's time to leave they do the same.
Moreover if you call them when you are on your way to Traum Paradies, they will open for you their private garage to park your car. You never know who may pass by.
As for the girls, I strongly reccomend the very young Lizzy, the black Naomi (1st class service) and Lulu.
Hope it may help.
Italy 1974[/QUOTE]
I want also to add, that it's the only club I visited and after each session, I was asked if I liked it and what I think about the service of the girl!
Very interesting club!
[QUOTE=Ericklein]I want also to add, that it's the only club[/QUOTE]
I just want to add that Traumparadies is not a club in the way we refer to FKK- or Sauna Clubs in this board. It's more or less a "Wohnungspuff", that means an apartment with several rooms and several girls, but you do not mix with other clients, you don't spend the whole day there enjoying spa facilities and naked girls.
HB
(I am linking this post also in the Cialis and Viagra Forum.)
After my latest tour in Fuckland, which I am going to report in detail, I am posing to you the following considerations, hoping to receive some feedback, comments and advises from you fellows, confronting your experience with mine.
I need to recall some data on me to introduce the argument: I am 52 (almost 53), thus no more at the peak of my sexual power, however still quite in good shape. A no smoker and no drinker, except for a glass of red vine during meals (which is however now accounted for positive cardiovascular effects), a moderate eater attentive to food quality, a prevalent sedentary life in face of a computer screen, but also some time dedicated to physical activities, including swimming and jogging.
Blood pressure is in the norm (was tendentially lower than average when I was younger).
Unfortunately I am subject to rare but insidious arrhythmic hearth crises, something however that I can control with appropriate treatment and, according to the doctors that visited me, is not incompatible with intense sexual activity and the assumption of PE.
Thus I would leave this out the topic of this post, even if heavy stress conditions seem to favor them, and a sexual tour of several days is such a condition! I thus should limit the endurance of my tours in the future.
Also because of the following considerations.
The first time I visited an FKK was Palace, on Feb. 2007. I was so excited that I could make 4 girls, with sessions up to 40’. The day after at Oase I had just one session (for lack of “inspiration”). After a one day pause I went to Palace again and I made 5 girls, including a 1h session, for a total of 3hs sex, where I had problems in maintaining a strong erection only once, all this without help! I think not bad for a man already in his 50’s. Could it have been the effect of novelty and of a relatively long period of abstinence before that tour?
After some other experiences, I realized however that my recovery time has got too long to be compatible with a standard 1h session. According to my experience the best fuck is the second of the day, after I came once, releasing from load and pressure, but still full of desire and energy. If possible I tend thus to make a 1h session with a girl I like a lot to take this opportunity, something however impossible with a recovery time of 20-40’.
It’s so that I decided to try Cialis during my tour of August/September 2007.
My first experience with C was quite positive, like putting back the clock 20 years!
With the help of the yellow pill the recovery time reduced to 5-10’ (!), erections were hard and I could maintain them for as long as I wanted without problems. After I come once it’s usually much easier to control a 2nd or a 3rd ejaculation, so that I can normally last for a very long time (this I think should be quite common), but I realized that under the effect of the drug it was even more difficult, at the point that I could have 1h sessions or 2 sessions rock hard, before being able to come another time (this also suggested me the nick I am using :). As this has been reported by other of you using C or V, I think this should be ascribed as a collateral effect of PDE-5 inhibitors.
Anyway, I could make 9 girls in 5 days for a total of almost 9 hrs of hard sex!
During my 3rd tour, in December 2007, I experienced the first failures of the pills. In 2 occasions the pill left me on the ground, failing to procure me strong erections. The first case was after I already came once, during a 1h session. The second, after a 30’ fuck, we took a pause and later I was no more able to regain an erection strong enough to continue fucking the girl.
I realized that, in any case, I couldn’t go too far, particularly if physical and/or mental conditions are not at best. I realized also the importance of creating or exploiting a really exciting atmosphere to prepare at best the following act.
My 4th tour was on July this year, and was an 8 days marathon! I was in quite good shape and coming from a long abstinence again, so I was eager for pussy and really stayed in the game for most of the time.
I had any problem for the first 4 days, however I “limited” myself to an average of 2 girls a day, the 1st day without help, but with at least one long session.
I took 2 days off, then a good reprise with 4 girls at a PT and a “grand final” at Oase with again 4 girls but with at least 2 better and longer sessions. However this last day I had to register two half-failures, as in two of the less satisfying sessions I lost my erection ahead of time. The 1st time I was able to regain it, just in order to be finished with an HJ, the 2nd time only a BJ helped, but the erection was not strong enough to fuck the girl again and she was unable to make me come. Luckily, after 2-3 hours, I was able to end the tour with another good session, but in any case the limits of the pill showed up.
Now I am just back from my 5th tour. A 6 days tour in NRW.
I would say a below average tour. Am I getting tired of the game, or was it simply a physiological low?
In 2 days out of 6 I didn’t find the right inspiration to do any session (at VV and YY)!
This may also have determined a depressing mood which may have influenced the following days.
The 1st day, at Villa Emmanuelle, I had, without help, 2 average sessions and one good extended session (although with a certain effort).
Later on it turned out I visited GT 3 times in alternate days. There I had at least 3 good sessions (2 of which extended), 2 bad sessions for bad attitude of the girls, but also 2 bad sessions with two of my favorite girls (!) because I was not able to get or maintain a strong enough erection for enough time!
However this happened in the latest days of my tour, and it was worse the last day. In fact the failure occurred during my first session of the day, which I planned to be an extended session, but after I came once my crazy mate didn’t give any sign of life anymore.
In conclusion:
1) Should I worry for what happened or should I consider this normal?
2) What countermeasures should I take?
One thing could be that I should limit my future tours to at most 4 days, better with one day off before the last day, because then fatigue, both physical and mental, starts to exert its effect, no matter if you take C or V, perhaps even in high dose.
For what concerns dosage it’s also true that I am using the minimal of 10 mg, so I may consider upgrading to the 20 mg pills, however, considering that the half-life of tadalafil is 36 hrs and that I took one pill a day for 3 consecutive days, the 3rd day I had in my blood approximately the equivalent concentration after taking a 20 mg pill, nevertheless I experienced a failure, but it was also the 3rd session of the day after I came once in the session.
Another possibility is that there is a sort of addiction to the drug, however I am not using C a part in these tours, thus it seems to me an insufficient time to develop an hypothetical addiction.
Finally I can consider switching to Viagra or Levitra. I may have a stronger reaction to this drugs, however I am fortunate I didn’t experience any serious collateral effects with C, so I am somewhat worried of experimenting another drug. C may give you muscle pain, but V or L can give you altered or impaired vision, which for me is much more scary!
Also the much shorter duration is a concern.
Moreover the mechanism of action of the 3 drugs is very similar, and most men report similar effects. The only big difference, as far as I know, seems to be the duration of efficacy, which for C is 6 times longer!
It would be interesting to read from whom of you have experimented with the 3 drugs.
Does anyone know what happened to the French forum? I am unable to access it, and yesterday was the same.
[QUOTE=Duralong]Does anyone know what happened to the French forum? I am unable to access it, and yesterday was the same.[/QUOTE]
It has had periods when its been down but otherwise it is still around.
I just tried just now though and the page which comes up says: "Forbidden".
There is also something about not having access to the server.
Strange! Bizarre!
Can someone provide me with some websites that allow you to reserve a car in euro's? I keep running into websites that want to quote me in usd's.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]It has had periods when its been down but otherwise it is still around.
I just tried just now though and the page which comes up says: "Forbidden".
There is also something about not having access to the server.
Strange! Bizarre![/QUOTE]
The same happens to me, so it should be really down.
P.S. Jackyo, any comments about my previous post on performance and PE? Your opinion would be greatly appreciated :)
[QUOTE=Breadman]Can someone provide me with some websites that allow you to reserve a car in euro's? I keep running into websites that want to quote me in usd's.[/QUOTE]
Just about any one will give you a Euro quote. Hertz, Europcar, Avis, Sixt. All will give you euro quotes. Trick is to enter your country of residence as D'land.
You also might do well to check the following sites:
[url]https://www.economycarrentals.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.mietwagenmarkt.de/[/url]
[url]http://www.weekrent.com/deutschland/autovermietung/rentalcar.php[/url]
Cheers,
Dedalus