Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Mongo69;1835970]A lot of great info here guys, thank you! Was hoping I could ask a couple of general questions please. I'm flying into BKK from NY and staying 2 weeks. Is this long enough or will I be a mess after I get back. I don't drink and am not interested in overnights with these girls. I prefer to sleep alone. How much can I expect to pay for a couple of hours with a girl and what's the best plan of attack? Would like to take two at a time at least once too.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]The great thing about BKK is that even for a new visitor, it's pretty easy to arrange anything you want. I am actually flying to BKK tomorrow and I have spent so much time there in the last 20 years I've come to know it pretty well.

Two weeks is great. It's up to you whether you exhaust yourself with girls, but you probably won't. There is lots to do and with that much time there is plenty of time to take some excursions.

I also prefer to sleep alone, so generally I enjoy soapies or oil massage places. It's very hard to find a reputable and reliable escort service, but I know a good one (expensive but discreet and great). To take two, you can try a service or just finding girls at gogo bars or whatever, but it's not easy. A lot of them will agree but won't be interested in each other or be giggling the whole time. There are also options like Eden club, which a lot of people dislike but I don't mind if for an occasional different experience.

The same thing goes in Thailand as everywhere else. If you can connect with the girls, be super nice, be comfortable, and don't be overly demanding you will get great service as long as you are careful to actually choose girls that seem friendly and interested. Have fun!

Any buddy has Number or Line ID of Yaya from Candy massage? Please PM me.

Shall be obliged.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1836077]Any buddy has Number or Line ID of Yaya from Candy massage? Please PM me.

Shall be obliged.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]Why would anyone want to give you more or less private info?

Be nice to Yaya and she may give it to you- or not.

You can also ask the mamasan Candy. She will probably not give it to you, but she is too polite to tell you to fuck off!

[QUOTE=Mongo69;1835970]A lot of great info here guys, thank you! Was hoping I could ask a couple of general questions please. I'm flying into BKK from NY and staying 2 weeks. Is this long enough or will I be a mess after I get back. I don't drink and am not interested in overnights with these girls. I prefer to sleep alone. How much can I expect to pay for a couple of hours with a girl and what's the best plan of attack? Would like to take two at a time at least once too.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]2 weeks is plenty of Bangkok could be even too much. Can always try Pattaya as well.

For two girls I recommend looking at the lesbian show performers in Suzi Wong bar. Always worked well for me.

Make it clear to girls that you want 2 gours to avoid misundersta dings. Many assume a short is iver when you pop. Use Massage parlors recommended here to get 2 hour bookings.

[QUOTE=DaddySan;1836114]Why would anyone want to give you more or less private info?
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Have to agree with that. Private numbers are private.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1835864]They also wasted about 5 minutes of my time with giving me back my change. Hoping I would get confused and just wander off maybe?[/QUOTE]This is Asia. Time flows differently here.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1835864]Less tips for honest waitresses, however I suspect that the owners get some of that tip money somehow (by paying them less wages).[/QUOTE]In that business model they are only following the (in) glorious shining example of the USA.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1835856]You are right. What makes them think we're all suckers? Last time I carried exact change because they think you'll forget or get impatient and walk out without change. I'll forget to go to CH ever again. There's too much to do in BKK to put up with that crap.[/QUOTE]There is a particular danger close to closing time. I once got scammed by a mamasan who did not come back with the change from BF. 300 Baht stolen. She just disappeared and presumably left the bar or was hiding in the toilet.

She got fired not too long after this, quite expected.

Great idea to have exact money prepared or to have very close to bill sum if don't trust the staff.

Last Saturday, my ex legit-MP (outwardly shy, but fucking me almost to death) girl after dinner, expressed her secret wish to go to Soi Cowboy, for the first time in her life.

Wanting to show her the best, I took her to Crazy House. After 5 minutes, she said 'Is that all?' and was ready to leave. So you see, tastes differ.

We then walked Soi Cowboy towards Asoke. Right at the end on the right (north) side there is a music club, I forget the name, with a live band and singer, playing oldies.

We went in and had a blast. Fantastic atmosphere. Everybody dancing. Best to BYO.

Highly recommended!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1835781]This seems to be the hot topic these days. I will tell you my experience and how I dealt with it. I'm not a regular here but I go enough for some of the staff to recognize me. One night I spotted a real young hottie about 18-20. Invited her to sit down with me. She climbed down off the stage and sat next to me and I offered her a drink. While waiting for our drinks we discussed the bar fine and time. Agreed to LT for 3,500. Drinks came and she abruptly told me after downing hers in one gulp she couldn't go with me anymore. I asked why and she stood up and walked away. She was clearly too drunk but I was angry at this point. I called the momason over and told her what happened and refused to pay for the LD, I only paid for mine. I then asked her to introduce me to a hot girl which she did. We agreed on the deal and 2 drinks later we were off. In the meantime the momason called over the other girl and made her pay the full price for her lady drink. I was shocked but happily mouthed the Thai words (Som nam Na) which means " you got what you deserved" in Thai. Guys, learn to stand up to these little monsters and things might change.[/QUOTE]I think you did the right thing. So did the mamasan. And, for that matter, so did the girl you eventually wound up with! LOL. I did something similar the one previous time a Crazy House girl pulled the Lady Drink Hustle and Vanish routine on me a couple of months ago prior to the one other time a couple of Saturdays ago. At least with regard to making it somewhat dramatically known that the girl in question was a scammer. She banked her LD commission ticket, wandered off to sit with another customer, no explanation, and started lobbying him for a LD, pretending to be too drunk to know what she was doing. But she wasn't too drunk to wind her way through the crowd, chat it up for a moment, order her drink, collect the commission ticket and hit up another customer. So I stood up, walked over to her and handed her the drink, which she took in her hand and held as steady and sober as a priest. Told her new con target to save himself the 160 baht since she already had a drink. A mamasan came over, heard the girl's lame excuse, sorted it all out and all was well again.

In subsequent visits, including the very next week, I have not seen that girl working in Crazy House again. I do believe it matters to complain when the details are so obviously on our side. So, on behalf of myself as a fellow male and a fellow punter, thank you for standing up and doing the right thing. It won't revolutionize anything. But it is still worthwhile to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem whenever possible. The second time it happened to me there, just a couple of Saturday's ago, I didn't stand up and make it known to the mamasan or anything. I should have. My only excuse is I only gestured for the girl to come on over for a LD because she was making such a spectacle of herself to get my attention, she was cute, but otherwise I wasn't in the market for barfining anyone or even talking about barfining anyone anyway. But she wouldn't have known that.

I have seen Crazy House girls engage in various Lady Drink hustles over the years. Lady Drink hustling seems to be more pronounced in Crazy House than other places. I suspect the girls early on discovered that such an abundance of naked, young flesh kind of dazzles many of us, fogs our thinking and makes us way too eager to buy one and then way too eager to forget about what just happened regarding a LD Hustle and Vanish that might have occurred, make excuses for it, and then our attention shifts to the very next naked, young girl who is rubbing up against us. LOL.

I have found that making the dramatic gesture to at least point out to a mamasan that you just got scammed can help weed out at least the clumsiest scammers and does nothing to reduce the other girls' interest in convincing you to barfine them or to deliver very good service when you do. I have had several very good experiences with other Crazy House girls since that previous incident a couple of months ago. And I had a very, very good one just last night. Downstairs stage dancer, flawless slender body, cute face, reminded me of a Japanese girl who used to live with me back in the states. I'd never met her before, might not have even seen her before at Crazy House. As soon as the one and only LD I bought her hit the bar, she asked me if I would pay her barfine, which prompted me to immediately swing into my #2 response in my POST #33419 in this thread. Then, the instant she mentioned "how much" she wanted me to pay her for LT (4000 baht), I immediately shifted quite naturally into my #3 response. It all worked out beautifully well and I had one of the sweetest-feeling real GFE boom-booms to a glorious finish I have ever had with a pro or an amateur.

She was upstairs changing into her street clothes no more than 10 minutes after we met. I decided early on that the Lady Drink hustle in Crazy House was so commonplace and often so thick, relying as they do on your being dazzled into a lack of preparedness by all the naked, young flesh with virtually zero improvement on the in room experience if you go along with it and, more likely, nothing but downside introduced from doing so, that the best way to get the most from a girl with whom you make a connection there is to Always Be Closing, even getting to an agreement without buying a single Lady Drink if it is at all practical.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1835962]SE Asia is popular area for western guys to spend their retirement days. That is what I am planning to do when I turn 65, if I still have a beating heart then.[/QUOTE]I don't intend to retire for quite a few years yet also, and may leave Bangkok.

It's a bit hot for Sauna here, and you might have to be lenient in your tits size requirements down to just Ccups, even then a bit scarce, unless you are happy with some bars and other places that are silicone paradise. Even I take tits from zero to large, choice is still difficult for me.

I am not liking the highly adjusted alien looks. Today saw a girl with very large irises (eye darker coloured area). I guess was coloured contact lenses, but already made her look weird unnatural to me. Fake noses are getting more and more popular like an explosion. 90% plus of the fake noses are ugly to me. Thais just are not meant to have high bridge of the nose. Its not a plus for beauty.

So many young fatties around in the modern day. I really hope some of these trends do not continue at the same rate in the next 10 years.

[QUOTE=Mongo69;1835970]A lot of great info here guys, thank you! Was hoping I could ask a couple of general questions please. I'm flying into BKK from NY and staying 2 weeks. Is this long enough or will I be a mess after I get back. I don't drink and am not interested in overnights with these girls. I prefer to sleep alone. How much can I expect to pay for a couple of hours with a girl and what's the best plan of attack? Would like to take two at a time at least once too.

Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]Personally, I think two weeks a long time just to monger. I would suggest you plan toursity things to do in between. Sukhumvit gets old pretty quick. You may want to think about going to Chang Mai just for a change of pace. Plenty of tourist stuff in Bangkok also. Take a day trip to Kanchanaburi. You should not be paying more than 1000 baht for short time. If you're looking for freelancers, you can go to Beer Garden or Gullivers during day time and Bangkok beat at night. If you want professional 3-some, go to the brothel (can't recall name) on Soi 11?

Thank you Ken, Syz, and Crypt, and anyone else who chimes in. I wasn't planning on 2 weeks of mongering, but I was concerned with 25 hours of travel time and hoping two weeks was enough stay before the 25 hours back!! Will def mix it up. So for a couple hours with a little cute I'm looking at 1000 baht? What about bar fine? Or should I stick to freelancers and massage girls? Was hoping to take back to my hotel. It was hard to figure on here, overwhelming info.

Thank you thank you guys.

[QUOTE=Crypton;1836454]Personally, I think two weeks a long time just to monger. I would suggest you plan toursity things to do in between. Sukhumvit gets old pretty quick. You may want to think about going to Chang Mai just for a change of pace. Plenty of tourist stuff in Bangkok also. Take a day trip to Kanchanaburi. You should not be paying more than 1000 baht for short time. If you're looking for freelancers, you can go to Beer Garden or Gullivers during day time and Bangkok beat at night. If you want professional 3-some, go to the brothel (can't recall name) on Soi 11?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crypton;1836454]Personally, I think two weeks a long time just to monger. I would suggest you plan toursity things to do in between. Sukhumvit gets old pretty quick. You may want to think about going to Chang Mai just for a change of pace. Plenty of tourist stuff in Bangkok also. Take a day trip to Kanchanaburi. You should not be paying more than 1000 baht for short time. If you're looking for freelancers, you can go to Beer Garden or Gullivers during day time and Bangkok beat at night. If you want professional 3-some, go to the brothel (can't recall name) on Soi 11?[/QUOTE]Day time freelancers at Gulivers? The place on Soi 5? Good to know.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1836316]So many young fatties around in the modern day. I really hope some of these trends do not continue at the same rate in the next 10 years.[/QUOTE]That's all over the world. I do miss the days when most Thai women were thin. For sure a thing of the past. The diet has changed drastically since the 90's. Too many eating junk food at 7/11. Cakes and pastries abound now. And 5 kilos on a short girl changes her shape completely.

[QUOTE=Mongo69;1836467]Thank you Ken, Syz, and Crypt, and anyone else who chimes in. I wasn't planning on 2 weeks of mongering, but I was concerned with 25 hours of travel time and hoping two weeks was enough stay before the 25 hours back!! Will def mix it up. So for a couple hours with a little cute I'm looking at 1000 baht? What about bar fine? Or should I stick to freelancers and massage girls? Was hoping to take back to my hotel. It was hard to figure on here, overwhelming info.

Thank you thank you guys.[/QUOTE]You only get freelancers for 1000 Baht. Even some of those maybe not. Oily massage costs more. Bargirls and soapy girls even more again.

I am not in habit of taking freelancers. When I met a pretty one a few weeks back, she was quoting 1. 5 K I believe. I asked how much time she gave for that? It clearly wasn't 2 hours and she indicated for 2 hours she would increase the fee. I did not bargain with her as did not actually want a screw at all having just completed one.

I am very sceptical that lots of pretty girls will give 2 hours for 1 K. However not a freelancers expert. My only recent freelancer was a really crap session and did not like her tits. She did not specify a price. Probably figured I knew the prices. Ha ha.

It is worth pointing out that in a massage shop like Snow White or Mango, 2 hours will cost you a bit over 2000 Baht, and higher in sone other places.