Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1836686]So where did all these girls go? Is it because they can make a living working normal jobs now? Too many Cheap Charlie's around to not make it worth their while any longer? I have to say I was very disappointed in soi 4. I was hoping it would be more of a scene that Goats described where I could pick hot girls off ....[/QUOTE]No it was never that good, however it was a massive contrast to the home country. In the old days o used ti think one in 3 Thai girls in the age group were doable. Probably was not that good. Stunners were still relatively few. Now there are far less than 1 in 3 doable unless you are in the right place for your special type of girls.

For guys that like silucone and nose jobs or more weighty girls, its still damn good I guess.

[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1836779]The whole country is a huge outdoor sauna. Hot and humid weather is good for my respiratory system and future old bones.

If I was to select the country to live my retirement days, just based on the looks of best girls and tits, I would go to Russia or Brazil. But these countries have their own issues. Russia is no country for old men unless you have a shitload of money, I don't. Brazil has some great looking girls and big natural tits but the country is not the safest and I am not the biggest fan of the latin mentality. Asia suits me fine. Nicely done silicones suit slim asian girls well, I have no problem with sillies there.

I still have 20+ years to play with big natural tits all around the world. Should be enough to get an overdose so I can concentrate on other things as an old man.[/QUOTE]Wow, FF can only follow your words, I also loving the easy way to enjoy These Asian B, because no hassle to enjoy the fun.

[QUOTE=Zeus9;1836751]I was wondering which section would be best for me to post some info about Nonthaburi, Muang Thong Thani, Chaeng Wattana, Pakkred, Laksi, and more. There is the other areas thread, even though these spots are still in the Bangkok metro area. There's also general reports. Let me know where you guys think I should post where it would be most effective.

I have benefited from all the info posted on ISG. I come into Bangkok several times a week and make the best of my time with that info. So I appreciate the contributions. So I'll try and make some of my own that might cover other areas beside the usual. I know that there have to be other guys besides me that want to find some good alternatives closer to home. I haven't found much information online. I've pieced a few things together from random websites that aren't active anymore. But I've found most things through word of mouth and legwork.

To make a long story short, I've found soapies (both I have never seen referenced online), a whole street of MP's (maybe 15 in a row, but the services vary wildly from shop to shop and girl to girl), karaoke, cayote bars, kapoo clubs (very hot girls, and they do a lot more than the HJ with multiple shots as standard). I was actually very surprised as to what I was getting out of the kapoo clubs after what I had read to expect. Maybe it's a bit different up here. You guys just tell me where to post, and I'll get to work.[/QUOTE]I guess the Other Areas thread would be most appropriate. Put it down anywhere really, but do it! Waiting for the reports.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1836686]So where did all these girls go? Is it because they can make a living working normal jobs now? Too many Cheap Charlie's around to not make it worth their while any longer? I have to say I was very disappointed in soi 4. I was hoping it would be more of a scene that Goats described where I could pick hot girls off like flies.

As Thailand becomes more Westernized, prices are bound to increase over the years and girls will get fatter with unhealthy Westernized fast food, much to Syzy's dismay.

The good ole days are gone in many monger countries, including Germany. Are there any countries that are actually better monger destinations now than they were 5 or 10 years ago?[/QUOTE]When you look at average salaries in Thailand over the past 15 years, you will see a huge increase, especially among uni grads. Also restaurant workers are making a lot more than they used to. It's really all a function of development. Sadly I don't think there is any place that is as good as it "was. " I would have loved to have been able to monger in Eastern Europe in the very early 90's or in Brazil in the 80's.

I agree with you about Soi 4. It is just depressing. What used to be "charmingly sleazy" is now just gross.

[QUOTE=Zeus9;1836751]I was wondering which section would be best for me to post some info about Nonthaburi, Muang Thong Thani, Chaeng Wattana, Pakkred, Laksi, and more. There is the other areas thread, even though these spots are still in the Bangkok metro area. There's also general reports. Let me know where you guys think I should post where it would be most effective.

I have benefited from all the info posted on ISG. I come into Bangkok several times a week and make the best of my time with that info. So I appreciate the contributions. So I'll try and make some of my own that might cover other areas beside the usual. I know that there have to be other guys besides me that want to find some good alternatives closer to home. I haven't found much information online. I've pieced a few things together from random websites that aren't active anymore. But I've found most things through word of mouth and legwork.

To make a long story short, I've found soapies (both I have never seen referenced online), a whole street of MP's (maybe 15 in a row, but the services vary wildly from shop to shop and girl to girl), karaoke, cayote bars, kapoo clubs (very hot girls, and they do a lot more than the HJ with multiple shots as standard). I was actually very surprised as to what I was getting out of the kapoo clubs after what I had read to expect. Maybe it's a bit different up here. You guys just tell me where to post, and I'll get to work.[/QUOTE]Wow. Can't wait to read your reports. I smell a road trip.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1836692]I do think that the level of change is often exaggerated. I can still find some sexy girls in many bars on occasions. I accept that I am much more fussy than when first arriving in Bangkok for mongering 25 years ago. I can look at a photo of some girl from the past and be mystified that I actually selected her somehow. Must have been dark. LOL I guess tastes change a bit.


So I accept that more bargirls were my spec many years ago because I was less fussy in addition to less fakes and less fatties. Combination of reasons. Also not enough experience with girls to have massive expectations of hookers initially.

. Bangkok always had lots of crappy ordinary single mother looking girls in any era.[/QUOTE]Mr. Syzgies. Thanks for your input. I am trying to plan my first trip the LOS here in the next month. But, the constant persistent theme I keep seeing here is complaints about how things are not what they used to be. Constant whining / moaning / bitching about how things have gone downhill. However, if we look at the rest of the forums covering different regions, we see the same thing. If you were to believe everything you read here, you'd think things were perfect / peachy 10/20/30 years ago and that mongering is a waste of time now. Right?

Of course, this is all subjective. Perspective and experience is everything. People complain about how much more expensive the cost of mongering is from 20 years ago. I have to ask, what else is the same price as it was 20 years? Do you make the same income as you did 20 years ago? My income has doubled in the past 20 years. I don't know of anyone, except for retirees or people who have derailed their lives, or were downsized out of a exceptional job, who are earning less now than they did a decade ago.

And as you mention, age is a factor. We were easier to please in some matters when were younger. We are more jaded and experienced now (OTOH, I am less picky about other things as I get older, especially women who are much younger than I am). And too often mature adults are busy chasing their youth. That is a problem there for some people. Also note that we feel better when we are younger, we had more energy, and we could take in more things. Not to mention we looked better. I think too many mongers ignore the impact of their appearance on the working girls. As your appearance goes downhill, the chances of a GFE with a younger woman decline, regardless of how much you pay them.

Common sense should tell us we can't expect to repeat the same experiences. We need to move on, and try new experiences. Just because we had a good experience in one brothel during one vacation, doesn't mean we can expect that experience to be repeated every time we show up. I recently visited Berlin and had two encounters with freelancers in their own apartments (feel free to check out my trip reports). Both were excellent service providers and I paid less than 100 Euros for the hour I spent with them. I've love to try that again with both of them. However, something inside tells me I need to try some other girls. I might have just caught those girls on a good day. But, they could be ineffectual on the next visit. Their enthusiasm for their job might have waned. Luck and chance are always going to play into the situation. If you don't go back you won't be disappointed by the next visit.

And of course, I do think what you get out of anything, including mongering, is what you put into it. It has come to my attention that working girls around the globe don't like drunk patrons, unless they are out to take advantage of them. When I read about guys getting plastered in the clubs and then trying to engage the women, I can't visualize an optimum sexual encounter. And I am completely with you guys who say they don't drink alcohol in the clubs.

Okay, I've said my piece. So, Mr. Syzgies, in your opinion, is there any reason why a first time visitor / monger to the LOS can't have an awesome time on a reasonable budget?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1836816]Okay, I've said my piece. So, Mr. Syzgies, in your opinion, is there any reason why a first time visitor / monger to the LOS can't have an awesome time on a reasonable budget?[/QUOTE]I'll jump in here and offer unsolicited opinion.

Of course a first-timer can have a great time. Obviously you have no basis for comparison, so it has every chance of being great. A reasonable budget is very subjective, so you may or may not receive value for money.

The issue that most of us old-timers have, when you boil it down, is that there is no longer an attitude of sanuk. That's the undefinable quality of "fun" that the Thais used to be famous for. You went to your favorite bar and the girls wanted to have fun. Yes, they were there to make money, but it tended to take a back seat to fun. The girl could have fun, and still get paid. Some of my best memories are of the times when there was a bit of chemistry between me and a lady, we went long-time and hit local clubs, local eateries, discos, whatever, and had a great time all night and into the next day. That's much harder to do these days.

The attitudes today (and I'm speaking generally, as individual exceptions exist) tend to be far more mercenary. Long-time is quickly becoming a thing of the past. Short-time has degenerated into 30 minutes in extreme cases. Basically, much of the sanuk is gone and I think that's what most guys miss the most. Yes, we all become more jaded. But, objectively, the attitudes of the girls are not the same.

Of course the clientele has changed, too. Hordes of package tourists, with lists of thing to do and places to see, busily checking each off the list and moving on to the next, have replaced the "traveler" who had a few weeks, or more, in-country and no fixed agenda. Short-time tourists tend to breed short-time girls, if you follow my meaning.

But, yes, as a first-timer you can have a blast. Especially if your reason for going isn't solely to screw as many girls as possible. It's a fascinating country and offers a lot more than simply girly bars.

One must consider the cost, too. By reading these boards you'll see that a short-time encounter with a go-go girl will probably set you back around $100 USD when you factor in a couple of drinks, a bar fine, etc. , etc. And that encounter may be about an hour, maybe less, maybe a bit more. YMMV. Factor in the cost of airfare and the time involved. If your reason for going is to screw, you may have better alternatives, depending on where you live. If you're going there to travel around, take in the culture, and have a bit of fun on the side, well, IMHO, SEA in general, and Thailand in particular, is hard to beat.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1836634]I have heard from staff that him and his friends were not necessarily well liked. I wonder if such an accident was the true story, without having any knowledge? Don't believe everything in the media too easily. I should ask my ex dollhouse girl for her thoughts.

I hear rumours that many cases that police right off as accidents or suicides, can actually be murders. There is the Pattaya Flying Club of Farangs going off tall buildings to their deaths not being uncommon.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, don't cry "malice" what can easily be explained by stupidity.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1836861]On the other hand, don't cry "malice" what can easily be explained by stupidity.[/QUOTE]I don't claim anything.

Could be an accident. Its just that many guys going off buildings are not accidents or suicides. I just keep an open mind to possibilities. Open and shut case maybe.

Espresszo,

I don't mean to be overly negative. Indeed most of my reports are about having a good time. I do find girls to have fun with.

It obviously costs more than the old days.

The ISG can guide you in things to try where a good time is likely. When I first arrived I had no ISG to guide me. I did have a buddy that knew a few places.

The bar scene is more difficult in that there are a lot less bars that interest me. However a newbie might find some more interesting.

In the old days we always took a bar girl for the whole night and sometimes was hard to get rid of her. In the modern day its more likely to take a girl for a short time but long time may be possible.

I really can't remember was percentage of mistake girls I had in the old days. Probably lower.

I still have a good time because I know where to go that suits me. I don't have to have a girl every single day anymore and rarely have two on same day any more.

Its not really more difficult to afford because my earnings per year is better and the exchange rate is also better.

Having a Thai GF is more expensive if she is not self supporting.

If tou are not an experienced monger, can still be a wonderland.

Read ISG posts regularly and try to learn from. Bear in mind that posters attitudes vary a lot.

I moan about the increasing numbers if nose jobs but many guys just don"t care about trivial mattters like that.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1836816]And as you mention, age is a factor. We were easier to please in some matters when were younger. We are more jaded and experienced now (OTOH, I am less picky about other things as I get older, especially women who are much younger than I am). And too often mature adults are busy chasing their youth. That is a problem there for some people. Also note that we feel better when we are younger, we had more energy, and we could take in more things. Not to mention we looked better. I think too many mongers ignore the impact of their appearance on the working girls. As your appearance goes downhill, the chances of a GFE with a younger woman decline, regardless of how much you pay them.[/QUOTE]As Syz will attest the opposite is true for many of us. I have become way more picky as I have aged. I have to find the "right duck" these days. Of course living here changes your perspective. Living here for 16 years really changes your perspective. One of the reasons I chose to move here in the late 90's was seeing all the 60 plus dudes with really hot 20 something gals. Now you really don't see that. You see the 60 plus crowd with 40 plus women. It has really changed.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1836839]I'll jump in here and offer unsolicited opinion.

Of course a first-timer can have a great time. Obviously you have no basis for comparison, so it has every chance of being great. A reasonable budget is very subjective, so you may or may not receive value for money.

The issue that most of us old-timers have, when you boil it down, is that there is no longer an attitude of sanuk. That's the undefinable quality of "fun" that the Thais used to be famous for. You went to your favorite bar and the girls wanted to have fun. Yes, they were there to make money, but it tended to take a back seat to fun. The girl could have fun, and still get paid. Some of my best memories are of the times when there was a bit of chemistry between me and a lady, we went long-time and hit local clubs, local eateries, discos, whatever, and had a great time all night and into the next day. That's much harder to do these days.

The attitudes today (and I'm speaking generally, as individual exceptions exist) tend to be far more mercenary. Long-time is quickly becoming a thing of the past. Short-time has degenerated into 30 minutes in extreme cases. Basically, much of the sanuk is gone and I think that's what most guys miss the most. Yes, we all become more jaded. But, objectively, the attitudes of the girls are not the same.

Of course the clientele has changed, too. Hordes of package tourists, with lists of thing to do and places to see, busily checking each off the list and moving on to the next, have replaced the "traveler" who had a few weeks, or more, in-country and no fixed agenda. Short-time tourists tend to breed short-time girls, if you follow my meaning.

But, yes, as a first-timer you can have a blast. Especially if your reason for going isn't solely to screw as many girls as possible. It's a fascinating country and offers a lot more than simply girly bars.

One must consider the cost, too. By reading these boards you'll see that a short-time encounter with a go-go girl will probably set you back around $100 USD when you factor in a couple of drinks, a bar fine, etc. , etc. And that encounter may be about an hour, maybe less, maybe a bit more. YMMV. Factor in the cost of airfare and the time involved. If your reason for going is to screw, you may have better alternatives, depending on where you live. If you're going there to travel around, take in the culture, and have a bit of fun on the side, well, IMHO, SEA in general, and Thailand in particular, is hard to beat.[/QUOTE]Phordphan sums it up very nicely. One thing I did not think about was the duration of most folk's visits. When I first moved here most mongers would be in for a month or so. Very few short trips. Of course economies were different then. And yes, the "fun" factor is way less. Every venue was a party every night. From Cowboy, to Nana, to Thermae, to Nana Disco. All the gal were drinking and looking for money and a good time. We all talk about the disappearing fun factor.

As a first time visitor you will have a good time.

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1836839] Some of my best memories are of the times when there was a bit of chemistry between me and a lady, we went long-time and hit local clubs, local eateries, discos, whatever, and had a great time all night and into the next day. That's much harder to do these days.[/QUOTE]All my LT with gogo girls followed a similar pattern. I thought this was the norm. My girls would leave around 3 or 4 pm the next day to get ready for work. If not, what is the norm for LT with no chemistry?

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1836839]I'll jump in here and offer unsolicited opinion.

Of course a first-timer can have a great time. Obviously you have no basis for comparison, so it has every chance of being great. .[/QUOTE]All very well said.

Girls in the past had nothing else to do than build the chemistry with the customer and all have a good time. Vand make money.

Now the customer is a break during the smartphone usage.

Once customers could be found mainly through the bars.

Now social media, websites, chatting apps, do the marketing. Sophisticated make up, cosmetic surgeries do the rest, together with intense use of Photoshop.

Once the customer enjoyed the hunt after months spent at home dreaming of the dream holiday: exotic country, sandy beaches, warm temperature, the feeling of a sex paradise.

Now they prepare the trip like a marketing campaign to search for new products. Winter is spent with strategies, checks on Internet, Q&A on the web.

[QUOTE=Zeus9;1836751]I was wondering which section would be best for me to post some info about Nonthaburi, Muang Thong Thani, Chaeng Wattana, Pakkred, Laksi, and more. There is the other areas thread, even though these spots are still in the Bangkok metro area. There's also general reports.[/QUOTE]I would not use General Reports Thread. That is more for things pertaining to the whole of Thailand (or the world), and may well be on non-sexual topics.

It would indeed be good to have a Bangkok Outskirts Thread as Nonthaburi is officially a separate province. Laksi, Chaeng Wattana, and Don Meuang are part of Bangkok, but there is no need to be to technical about the province boundaries.

Could use the Bangkok Thread but would mean specialised reports would get mixed in the whole lot of other guff. Bangkok already fills up with reports that are not really Bangkok and not even related to mongering.

Would be good to hear about Soapy massage of the north like "Ocean" is it? somewhere near the road to Nonthaburi.