Perceptions By Experienced Mongers.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1836869]Espresszo,
I don't mean to be overly negative. [/QUOTE]Oh, but you weren't Syzgies. And I am sorry for not being more clear. I latched onto your comment "I do think that the level of change is often exaggerated" because you hinted at the negative or jaded perspective of some posts. I was asking a purely rhetorical question when I said "is there any reason why a first time visitor / monger to the LOS can't have an awesome time on a reasonable budget?" Again I apologize to everyone else for not being more clear. I just wanted to sort out the reality from what some posters seem to perceive as a negative.
I am pretty confident I can have a great time in the LOS, with the right attitude, reasonable expectations, and common sense. I just wanted to chime in on how some mongers' perspectives don't paint an accurate picture of the situation for the rest of us. And by no means is it restricted to this forum. I found another site that focused on Pattaya, and the forum them was populated by people complaining about how it wasn't what it used to be. They complained about the popularity of the place, without realizing how they were contributing to the situation, as if their participation didn't matter. It was kind of silly, I thought.
I will go off-topic briefly (at least as far as Thailand goes) and refer to an area I do have experience in. If you check out the Germany forums, you can read people complaining about the FKK clubs, and how they aren't what some mongers think they can be. Heck, when I first really visited Germany, as a student doing a semester abroad, there was no such thing as an FKK or any kind of public sex club. It was at the beginning of 1980. In my quiet University town, there was an secluded alcove of maybe three or four houses, where the WG would sit in the window (though there was usually only one sitting in her window at any give time). That's what you had to choose from then. Go down to Stuttgart and there was a good Laufhaus that a Croatian friend of mine liked an awful lot (he was a monger at a young age). Up in Frankfurt, there was sort of a red light district across the river in Sachsenhausen. Mature women working on the street, while more upscale girls would cruise the streets in a sedan, pick up the customer and drive to a secluded spot for a quickie in the car. The girls were pretty much German then. Hamburg always had the Davidwachte and the Reeperbahn. But that was Hamburg. In Bavaria, prostitution was illegal. The working girls were pretty much German girls, and of course, the prettiest German girls are not going to be involved in open prostitution. Nowadays, the town I lived supposedly has a decent FKK and once hosted a notorious all-inclusive club. Sex clubs are all over Germany now, and there is a huge choice of women of different nationalities or races to choose from. Some hookers openly work the rest stops on the autobahn and advertise when and where they will be on their website. Yet for all this variety and free market competitiveness, mongers complain. They complain about the predominance of Romanian girls or the lack of German girls (truth is, the Romanians are better looking than the German working girls. You think the prettiest Germans will work in an FKK?)
Its all a lot of complaining from people who have unrealistic expectations. People who have no concept of what it REALLY used to be like in Germany. And this is my point. A lot of negative posting comes from unrealistic expectations, because they have the wrong attitude or they expect things to always be how they want them to be (which never really happens in real life.) And that doesn't help people who are new to the scene. What some monger thinks how things should work, won't always jibe with what the newcomer to the scene can experience.
