FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Canivagu;2339783]During my last visit to Sharks for 4 consecutive days in May I didn't noticed any Public sex action around the club. Does anybody know if Public sex is done or even allowed and if yes if the WG are for it? Thank you![/QUOTE]Allowed but only with condoms for everything. Most WGs won't do in Sharks, except maybe on red couches in VIP area upstairs.

If you really like public sex, go to Globe on a Tuesday or even History on a Monday, both in Switzerland; you won't regret it. Only 4 hours drive from Sharks.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2339931]Allowed but only with condoms for everything. Most WGs won't do in Sharks, except maybe on red couches in VIP area upstairs.

If you really like public sex, go to Globe on a Tuesday or even History on a Monday, both in Switzerland; you won't regret it. Only 4 hours drive from Sharks.[/QUOTE]Finca in kino, Oase on beds in garden, Babylon Elsdorf.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2339112]I didn't see her in my last trip a few weeks ago. Just curious.[/QUOTE]Blond?

I believe I spoke to her yesterday as I was looking for Analea. Names were close enough that I remembered speaking to her and saying to myself "close," when Amalia told me her name.

Analea:

So in short, Nothing to write home about.

Pros:

Nice smile.

Super thin / young (my spec).

Amicable in her way.

Yes kissing good at it but not deep French.

Cons:

20€upsell for kissing.

Can't do or won't do any position other than missionary with me. Even though I'm gentle as needed, usually my MO. Said my dick is too big for other positions.

She's happy with 30 minutes. (For me a con, for some would be a pro).

English ability is abysmal.

Also, (like many of the girls who have to wear makeup all day and don't eat well) she has a fair amount of acne / blemishes etc under her makeup. Prefers dark rooms without mirrors.

Can't keep my interest more than 30 minutes. I'm usually a 1 HR- 1. 5 hour guy with good providers.

YMMV I'm sure. Just my opinion. Maybe would repeat depending on alternatives of the day. Maybe if I spoke German I could get better results.

[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2340030]Blond?

I believe I spoke to her yesterday as I was looking for Analea. Names were close enough that I remembered speaking to her and saying to myself "close," when Amalia told me her name.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think she is a blonde, Ro, cute face, maybe 5'4" or 5'5", sits by the couches right across the pole on the stage. Thanks.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2339086]She is a true hunter and I say that as a compliment. I have observed her tactics as well and I've never seen a girl so determined to nail every Asian in the club. It's good to specialize in a business. Know your clients well, make them happy, no need to try to please everyone, and focus all your attention in winning them. Shrewd business woman.[/QUOTE]If she is good no problems in hunting.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2339112]I didn't see her in my last trip a few weeks ago. Just curious.[/QUOTE]I also did not see Amalia.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2339084]For now, I'm happy with Sharks. If things change, I'll shift my base to Oase.[/QUOTE]Shark is better Oase lot of upselling.

Wednesday I visited Sharks, but the lineup was not that great in my eyes. But what was really strange was Jessica, a really good looking blonde who only walked around and did not go to the room at all. It was not that men did not try, but somehow she did not want. Does somebody know what's up with her?

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2340869]Wednesday I visited Sharks, but the lineup was not that great in my eyes. But what was really strange was Jessica, a really good looking blonde who only walked around and did not go to the room at all. It was not that men did not try, but somehow she did not want. Does somebody know what's up with her?[/QUOTE]Fake blond, white skin, small tits, with sad eyes, sitting close to ex kino, claiming she played football?

[QUOTE=Canivagu;2339783]During my last visit to Sharks for 4 consecutive days in May I didn't noticed any Public sex action around the club. Does anybody know if Public sex is done or even allowed and if yes if the WG are for it? Thank you![/QUOTE]Summer is perfect for public sex in the open garden at Sharks. I have done public sex with a number of girls on the couches and on the beds in the open garden. If you do your girl(s) on a garden bed, you can leave the curtain open.

On two occasions, I did public sex on a lounge next to the pool. However, these lounges are too narrow and thus they are not as comfortable as the couches or the beds for long sex sessions.

Just ask the girls. Some of them are up to having sex in the open garden.

Have fun!! FKKs with naked girls and public sex are the most pleasurable playgrounds in the world!!

I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2339670]I'm flying to Frankfurt next week and planning a visit to the Sharks. I used to have an erotic time with the sisters Elif and Amalia. Are they still in the Sharks and currently present? Thank you for an information.[/QUOTE]They are said to be back.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2340975]Fake blond, white skin, small tits, with sad eyes, sitting close to ex kino, claiming she played football?[/QUOTE]About fake blond I am not sure. Probably but was not easy to see. She had silicon tits was quite tall and sitting by the stairs leading up to the whirlpool area.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2341014]I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]First, be relax, breathe deeply, take your time to choose, ask about what You like, don t say it s your first time. Romanian girls are prettier than Americans, even Sharks now is not what it was 3 years ago. Most are smoking, but usually good hygiene, higher hygiene level for Romanians than Germans, not many taste like ashtray. About breathe quality, look at girls teeth quality, bad teeth make bad breathe.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2341238]About fake blond I am not sure. Probably but was not easy to see. She had silicon tits was quite tall and sitting by the stairs leading up to the whirlpool area.[/QUOTE]Not same Jessika. The one I thought has sad eyes look and stay close to ex kino.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2341238]About fake blond I am not sure. Probably but was not easy to see. She had silicon tits was quite tall and sitting by the stairs leading up to the whirlpool area.[/QUOTE]That Jessica has been in Sharks for a long while. Used to be doing 3 some with Roxana. Gives good service. Wears glasses.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2341014]I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Will be there too the 12th.

PM me if you want meet.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2341014]I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]So, LvHobby. You have decided to take the FKK plunge. Once you step into those shark infested waters, the girls will come up to you one after another. You will be weak at the knees and want to go after the first one that approaches you. She is naked and sitting on your lap. Your heart is racing 100 BPM. Can you resist a girl grabbing your cock under the your robe? Talk to her. Get her name. Then send her away! I guarantee you some other girl will come within 5 minutes or less. Get up off your seat and walk around. Look around, make eye contact, but keep walking. Go out to the pool. Sit down, grab a drink and continue to observe. Do this for at least an hour before making your first selection. The girls' objective is to try and get as much money from you and other clients as quickly as possible. She may jump from one guy right over to the next without showering. They can only wash their pussies every so often. Many girls just use a baby wipe just before sex. That's it. Who knows what else has been up there or in her mouth. If you are worried, carry a small bottle of mouthwash with you and make her use it.

There will be plenty of doable girls there. You will need to see which one you find chemistry with. If they act "sharky" and upsell, be prepared to walk away from the deal and report her to reception. You will be hunted. Stay in control. You know the rules and the BS the girls will send your way. I have to remind myself the same thing. Consider your budget and the number of sessions you wish to have. I don't know you, but it sounds like you have always been the hunter. This time you are the prey. Good luck!

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2341250]That Jessica has been in Sharks for a long while. Used to be doing 3 some with Roxana. Gives good service. Wears glasses.[/QUOTE]Then why she did not go to the room although the men were interested? I even heard an asian guy talk to a girl about her that "she only walks around". So it was not only me who thought that strange.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2341250]That Jessica has been in Sharks for a long while. Used to be doing 3 some with Roxana. Gives good service. Wears glasses.[/QUOTE]With big tattoo above tits?

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2341286].................She may jump from one guy right over to the next without showering. They can only wash their pussies every so often....................[/QUOTE]I like to DATY the hottest girls I session with. The pre-room discussions will inform her of my intentions. Many girls with that info in mind will excuse themselves just before entering the upstairs room (I always session upstairs) to go to the nearby bathroom to wash their pussies. If they do not I ask them to do so. My favorite room is the one which when you ascend the stairs you turn right and go to the last one on the right which has its own shower.

[QUOTE=PokerWiesBaden;2341262]Hi,

Will be there too the 12th.

PM me if you want meet.[/QUOTE]Yes, I would love to meet. But I have no PM on this board.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2341373]Then why she did not go to the room although the men were interested? I even heard an asian guy talk to a girl about her that "she only walks around". So it was not only me who thought that strange.[/QUOTE]Just to cheer your imagination a bit in this hot environment:

Maybe she has made a career jump. And has now become a (part-time) slave-overseer.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2341014]I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]Be confident if you want good Kissing go for 100 but ask girl before going to room what you want.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2341413]I like to DATY the hottest girls I session with. The pre-room discussions will inform her of my intentions. Many girls with that info in mind will excuse themselves just before entering the upstairs room (I always session upstairs) to go to the nearby bathroom to wash their pussies. If they do not I ask them to do so. My favorite room is the one which when you ascend the stairs you turn right and go to the last one on the right which has its own shower.[/QUOTE]I do like to DATY too Turgid, but one hot girl grabbed me right away and without knowing I went straight into the room with her. She had not showered, but only used wipes. Her pussy still tasted like latex condoms. That was a complete turnoff. Minimal damage, but I never went back with her again. Thank you for the tip about that room upstairs. Now that the secret is out, it may be occupied for most of the time.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2341286]So, LvHobby. You have decided to take the FKK plunge. Once you step into those shark infested waters, the girls will come up to you one after another. You will be weak at the knees and want to go after the first one that approaches you. She is naked and sitting on your lap. Your heart is racing 100 BPM. Can you resist a girl grabbing your cock under the your robe? Talk to her. Get her name. Then send her away! I guarantee you some other girl will come within 5 minutes or less. Get up off your seat and walk around. Look around, make eye contact, but keep walking. Go out to the pool. Sit down, grab a drink and continue to observe. Do this for at least an hour before making your first selection. The girls' objective is to try and get as much money from you and other clients as quickly as possible. She may jump from one guy right over to the next without showering. They can only wash their pussies every so often. Many girls just use a baby wipe just before sex. That's it. Who knows what else has been up there or in her mouth. If you are worried, carry a small bottle of mouthwash with you and make her use it..[/QUOTE]Never experienced such jungle, nor being forced to go to room by any girl in any club, even granny Sylvana / Gloria / Donatela, and I hate when girls come to rub on me like at LR when I was there for only 1 girl, or try to touch my dick like some did at Finca. When you go with high level girls, usually you can eat on them. Others don't interest me.

I do like to DATY too Turgid, but one hot girl grabbed me right away and without knowing I went straight into the room with her. She had not showered, but only used wipes. Her pussy still tasted like latex condoms. That was a complete turnoff. Minimal damage, but I never went back with her again. Thank you for the tip about that room upstairs. Now that the secret is out, it may be occupied for most of the time.

Most of the girls can not wash their pussy each time after being in the room, therefor they use wet towels but of course it is not the best.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2340975]Fake blond, white skin, small tits, with sad eyes, sitting close to ex kino, claiming she played football?[/QUOTE]My mistake, not Jessika but maybe Jenifer? I m not anymore a regular.

I imagine there were some very hot and uncomfortable rooms in Sharks this weekend unless you could get one with a window.

I feel sorry for the girls who sleep in the club as well.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341523]Never experienced such jungle, nor being forced to go to room by any girl in any club, even granny Sylvana / Gloria / Donatela, and I hate when girls come to rub on me like at LR when I was there for only 1 girl, or try to touch my dick like some did at Finca. When you go with high level girls, usually you can eat on them. Others don't interest me.[/QUOTE]So Sirioja, you have never experienced a girl flop down on the couch while you were just sitting? I have even had girls sit right down beside my head when I was sleeping upstairs. Those areas should be off limits to girls. That is the one thing I liked about Oase is the rest area that is off limits to girls. Guys need to recharge after sex. This was the only one area of refuge. If you do want action, the Oase kino was good because the girls would sit down beside you and chat for a bit. Many times, they have no problems reaching under the robe. Some have even started on a BBBJ on the spot. Point is, how a newbie must resist the temptation, especially if it is just a desperate girl wanting action.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2341517]........... Thank you for the tip about that room upstairs. Now that the secret is out, it may be occupied for most of the time.

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]The secret has been out for quite some time, that's the hardest room to get in the club.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341523]Never experienced such jungle, nor being forced to go to room by any girl in any club, even granny Sylvana / Gloria / Donatela, and I hate when girls come to rub on me like at LR when I was there for only 1 girl, or try to touch my dick like some did at Finca. When you go with high level girls, usually you can eat on them. Others don't interest me.[/QUOTE]I have been disturbed from sleep in Sharks but not often enough to be a problem. Gloria never interrupted me, I haven't seen her since 2017 though. I went with Donnatella recently, she told me she's from Italy. Both girls were underwhelming.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2341636]I have been disturbed from sleep in Sharks but not often enough to be a problem. Gloria never interrupted me, I haven't seen her since 2017 though. I went with Donnatella recently, she told me she's from Italy. Both girls were underwhelming.[/QUOTE]Sylvana was Gloria at Samya and Donatela at GT, after also Paradise Sarrebrucken. I can t compete with her for German FKK tour. Also World, I think Oase, Bab and maybe also LR. Super granny. As we say in France, working make stay healthy. Sperm is energetic.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2341592]I imagine there were some very hot and uncomfortable rooms in Sharks this weekend unless you could get one with a window.

I feel sorry for the girls who sleep in the club as well.[/QUOTE]According to Google it was 39 C/ 101 F in Frankfurt at 4 pm on Sunday. I have been at Sharks at much lower temperatures and found it uncomfortable.

Avoid Analea or Annalea by all means. Same excuse saying my size is too big for her and didn't want to do any sex after 2 minutes. Keep upselling FIM and I almost took her to reception. Worst experience ever in Sharks over more than 100 visits.

She usually sits near the couches underneath the stairs to second floor rooms. Blonde, super thin and quite tall. You are warned.

[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2340033]Analea:

So in short, Nothing to write home about.

Pros:

Nice smile.

Super thin / young (my spec).

Amicable in her way.

Yes kissing good at it but not deep French.

Cons:

20upsell for kissing.

Can't do or won't do any position other than missionary with me. Even though I'm gentle as needed, usually my MO. Said my dick is too big for other positions.

She's happy with 30 minutes. (For me a con, for some would be a pro).

English ability is abysmal.

Also, (like many of the girls who have to wear makeup all day and don't eat well) she has a fair amount of acne / blemishes etc under her makeup. Prefers dark rooms without mirrors.

Can't keep my interest more than 30 minutes. I'm usually a 1 HR- 1. 5 hour guy with good providers.

YMMV I'm sure. Just my opinion. Maybe would repeat depending on alternatives of the day. Maybe if I spoke German I could get better results.[/QUOTE]

They are in the club this weekend.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2339670]I'm flying to Frankfurt next week and planning a visit to the Sharks. I used to have an erotic time with the sisters Elif and Amalia. Are they still in the Sharks and currently present? Thank you for an information.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2341678]They are in the club this weekend.[/QUOTE]Nice. I hope Amalia will be present next weekend as well.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2339670]I'm flying to Frankfurt next week and planning a visit to the Sharks. I used to have an erotic time with the sisters Elif and Amalia. Are they still in the Sharks and currently present? Thank you for an information.[/QUOTE]Saw them today. Unfortunately, today is their last night before heading to Romania.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341655]Sylvana was Gloria at Samya and Donatela at GT, after also Paradise Sarrebrucken. I can t compete with her for German FKK tour. Also World, I think Oase, Bab and maybe also LR. Super granny. As we say in France, working make stay healthy. Sperm is energetic.[/QUOTE]You got me. There was a Gloria in Sharks and there currently is a Donatella there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2341795]You got me. There was a Gloria in Sharks and there currently is a Donatella there.[/QUOTE]You forgot Parksauna Residenz.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2341677]Avoid Analea or Annalea by all means. Same excuse saying my size is too big for her and didn't want to do any sex after 2 minutes. Keep upselling FIM and I almost took her to reception. Worst experience ever in Sharks over more than 100 visits.

She usually sits near the couches underneath the stairs to second floor rooms. Blonde, super thin and quite tall. You are warned.[/QUOTE]Is she really ex Amanda at Finca? Slim blond with long blond hair, about 1,65/1,70 without heels, red lipstick, beautiful smile with beautiful teeth, not speaking much English. Amanda was a so extreme GFE, passionate kisser, no problem for fucking after taking care of her, 1h30 for our discovery, and she came to me when I returned on next evening. Would be a real pity if she fell for level, moving from Finca to Sharks.

Melani was also a great GFE with no upselling, when she arrived from Finca on end of 2015, very slim with white snow look, no glasses at this time. But no Asian market at Finca, nor at Globe.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2341544]My mistake, not Jessika but maybe Jenifer? I m not anymore a regular.[/QUOTE]I thought I heard Jessica, but maybe I am wrong there, but nevertheless I did not ask about her name, but rather if anybody knows why she didn't go to the room (at least as long as I was there). She is good looking and she turned down every guy asking.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2341801]I thought I heard Jessica, but maybe I am wrong there, but nevertheless I did not ask about her name, but rather if anybody knows why she didn't go to the room (at least as long as I was there). She is good looking and she turned down every guy asking.[/QUOTE]There is really no interest to know why she is not going to the room, everything in a FKK is cheating except the fact that the girls are there to suck as much cash as possible from us by providing the less service as possible, also our cash is usually supporting their BF, husband.

If she wraps up herself all the time it's Jennifer. I believe she doesn't do 30 minutes rooms and looks for long rooms with extras instead.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2341801]I thought I heard Jessica, but maybe I am wrong there, but nevertheless I did not ask about her name, but rather if anybody knows why she didn't go to the room (at least as long as I was there). She is good looking and she turned down every guy asking.[/QUOTE].

I have been to Sharks many times and always managed to have a good time besides a few scammers. On Friday night it was horrible, almost every girl wanted 100 for 30 minutes with kissing and BBBJ. No one would even take 100 for 60, finally a German girl of Egyptian origin came along to save the day. The lineup was not that great either.

If it is like this, there is little to recommend Sharks to me at this point.

All this complains about "upselling" and pricing and this before the background there wasn't any price increase at german P6 service for at least the last 20 years. For instance P6 prices in Thailand are now at least 4 times higher compared with 20 years ago.

And it's funny almost all users here seems to forget that we had some mayor leagal changes excactly two years ago. Only this leagal change at July 1st 2017 should be reason enough to increase P6 prices.

Even with 100 Euro for 30 minutes German FKK clubs are still a very good option on world wide P6 scene.

So guys stop with this ridicules "upselling" complains und accept this or just go at other P6 countries.

I would be happy we had a general rule 100430 like it was 50430 around 10 years ago und I don't have to negoiate everything before and that I could find girls like 10 years ago instead of this Kindergarten girls nowadays haven't the slightest clue about good sex.

Anyone knows the name of the girl who fell down the stairs today? I saw it from the other end of the club and could not identify the unfortunate lady. She was walking down the stairs with her partner having just done a room. It looked bad and she was screaming with pain. She had to be carried by staff. Hope her leg was not broken.

Craiova. If you want to pay 100 for 30 minutes then fine by me. I pay 50 for each 30 minutes, and so do loads of other guys, although as Delta says, this is not always very easy at Sharks. I am not sure why you tell such guys to abandon Germany.

Maybe I am fighting a losing battle, especially as I am told by a more experienced member than I, that prices worldwide are rising. And to be honest, in some countries I would be willing to pay way more than 100 for 30 minutes

I, like you, am surprised at the way quite a few girls now are really clueless about sex, even when they are trying hard

[QUOTE=Turgid;2342036]Anyone knows the name of the girl who fell down the stairs today? I saw it from the other end of the club and could not identify the unfortunate lady. She was walking down the stairs with her partner having just done a room. It looked bad and she was screaming with pain. She had to be carried by staff. Hope her leg was not broken.[/QUOTE]Brutal story, how does she look like? Can you describe her? Maybe I can help. And yes Sharks is a very "dangerous" place, especially for the women with they sky heels and also for us men for example in the locker room, where the floor is like a Bon Jovi Album very "Slippery When Wet"! Take care of yourselves.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2342004]All this complains about "upselling" and pricing and this before the background there wasn't any price increase at german P6 service for at least the last 20 years. For instance P6 prices in Thailand are now at least 4 times higher compared with 20 years ago.

And it's funny almost all users here seems to forget that we had some mayor leagal changes excactly two years ago. Only this leagal change at July 1st 2017 should be reason enough to increase P6 prices.

Even with 100 Euro for 30 minutes German FKK clubs are still a very good option on world wide P6 scene.

So guys stop with this ridicules "upselling" complains und accept this or just go at other P6 countries.

I would be happy we had a general rule 100430 like it was 50430 around 10 years ago und I don't have to negoiate everything before and that I could find girls like 10 years ago instead of this Kindergarten girls nowadays haven't the slightest clue about good sex.[/QUOTE]For me, all girls don't worth same rate, chic, elegant with charm beauties worth more than 50, when GND don't worth I pay for, and I had in Germany higher level Romanians than 70% of my Russian escorts met in Paris for about 200/ h, but I hate grocer girls who ask for 1€ for each kiss, killing desire and illusion for love in bed, not GF woman type. I only repeat with not grocer girls, but I have no problem to pay more expensive for higher quality, even I always try to avoid to speak about money. Tough game at Oase, but skill and manners don't work so bad, orgasmus versus upselling. Some return, even at Oase.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2342038]Craiova. If you want to pay 100 for 30 minutes then fine by me. I pay 50 for each 30 minutes, and so do loads of other guys, although as Delta says, this is not always very easy at Sharks. I am not sure why you tell such guys to abandon Germany.

Maybe I am fighting a losing battle, especially as I am told by a more experienced member than I, that prices worldwide are rising. And to be honest, in some countries I would be willing to pay way more than 100 for 30 minutes

I, like you, am surprised at the way quite a few girls now are really clueless about sex, even when they are trying hard[/QUOTE]But real pity if Amanda fell from Finca standards to Sharks level. Top GF for intense and passionate love in bed for my experience on Vatertag. Magdalena was really not on same level. Aicha is higher potential for sex, but not so sweet passionate.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2341910]If she wraps up herself all the time it's Jennifer. I believe she doesn't do 30 minutes rooms and looks for long rooms with extras instead.[/QUOTE]She was nude, not wrapped in a towel. And as it was very hot that day almost no girl was wrapped in a towel.

I am not sure if your assertion is trustworthy. I was in Sharks last Wednesday night (6/26). Me and all my friends got 100 for 60 min sessions. I couldn't believe that just within a few days after that time no one would take 100 for 60.

I was with Flavia again, at least she agreed 100 for 1 hour, although I paid her 160 euros which included CIM and 10 tips.

I did talk to Mandy. She had no problem for 100/ hour. One of my friends went with her.

Nicoletta didn't take 50/30 min. But she agreed 100/60 min. As one of my friends had a session with her.

The list of girls whom I talked to also accepted minimum 100/ hour.

Selina, Melanie, Rebecca, Amalia, Ashley, Lavinia, Esther, Elif, etc. Some other 5 girls I didn't write down their name. Obviously they are willing to accept 100 for 60 minutes.

Evita was busy that day. A guy who went with her before told me that Evita had no problem to go with 100/ hour.

You failed to mention any girl name in your post. I doubt if you ever visit Sharks. I wonder why You made up a fictitious post to smear girls in Sharks.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2341975]I have been to Sharks many times and always managed to have a good time besides a few scammers. On Friday night it was horrible, almost every girl wanted 100 for 30 minutes with kissing and BBBJ. No one would even take 100 for 60, finally a German girl of Egyptian origin came along to save the day. The lineup was not that great either.

If it is like this, there is little to recommend Sharks to me at this point.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optimist;2342038]Craiova. If you want to pay 100 for 30 minutes then fine by me. I pay 50 for each 30 minutes, and so do loads of other guys, although as Delta says, this is not always very easy at Sharks. I am not sure why you tell such guys to abandon Germany.

Maybe I am fighting a losing battle, especially as I am told by a more experienced member than I, that prices worldwide are rising. And to be honest, in some countries I would be willing to pay way more than 100 for 30 minutes

I, like you, am surprised at the way quite a few girls now are really clueless about sex, even when they are trying hard[/QUOTE]Over the past three months I've had close to 60 sessions at Sharks. Of those 60 only two were EUR 100 for half hour and that was 2 too much as on hindsight I could have done without them. I had a few EUR 100 one hour sessions where I decided to increase the time during the session because of how enjoyable it was going. I avoid most of the Asian hunters and optics most of whom are mentioned by posters here on ISG.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2342036]Anyone knows the name of the girl who fell down the stairs today?[/QUOTE]I recognized the scream of the girl when it happened. It was in the early afternoon and not many people in the hall. According to a German guy it's Ayala (pale skin), the Russian girl. I remember that Anjelica was talking to her in Russian language. This German guy also confirmed that unfortunately the leg is broken as he was told later.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2342147]Over the past three months I've had close to 60 sessions at Sharks. Of those 60 only two were EUR 100 for half hour and that was 2 too much as on hindsight I could have done without them. I had a few EUR 100 one hour sessions where I decided to increase the time during the session because of how enjoyable it was going. I avoid most of the Asian hunters and optics most of whom are mentioned by posters here on ISG.[/QUOTE]You avoid optics? But I go only for beauties and they are usually quite rare for me in any club, but can t desire if I don't find attractive with a bit of charm. Must be easier to find for you than for me at Sharks at the moment.

I have never ever paid 100 Euro for a 30 M session at Sharks or for that matter in any other FKK. If the price were to be at that level, DE ceases to be the primary sex tourist destination FOR ME. I will still continue to visit once in a while if I happened to be in the vicinity for other business, but I will probably direct most of my sex business towards girls in my homeland in that scenario. As a volume consumer who takes 25 or more rooms in a trip, the math will not add up for me at 100 e30 m, simple as that. Thankfully, I don't need to worry about this right now.

That said, I read exasperation in the tone of Craiova and not necessarily that he is strongly advocating prices to be doubled. There is exasperation that quality of sex has declined due to girls cutting corners and upselling and doing other things to make sessions less pleasurable, and he made the point that prices having been stagnant for a long time was one reason behind this. That is an argument made by dozens of others as well. Even on these pages I have seen many posters say they would be supportive of 10 E price increase, but of course for every such poster there is always another member who wants to be tough and declares that no price increase is ever necessary. I have no judgement on either type of poster, everyone is entitled to his opinion.

The other bigger frustration I read in Craiova's tone is the constant carping and complaining by members here about girls and up-selling. This incessant complaining grates on other readers' nerves sometimes. It is like death eaters sucking all fun out of life. Yes, there is upselling, there is other stuff, but it is a fact of life. If you travel to a third world country that has fantastic touristy sights but constantly complain that tap water is bad, what is the point? Just be a bit more careful, drink bottled water and get on with the program. But sometimes this upselling is made out to be so bad, it is as if guys are stepping into a minefield. It is still a fun club guys, with dozens of young naked cute chicks asking you to fuck them. In any other location in the world, it would be a dream. You even read this in the posts of first time visitors, in a tone full of trepidation, how scared they should be about visiting a club and how they can avoid bodily harm and mental maiming (from the upselling). Those poor chaps have been RTFFing for so long that they are psychologically damaged goods before ever having set foot in a club.

So, that is all I read in his post. Just irritation at so much time and focus on a minor annoyance which takes away from paying attention to all the good stuff FKKs have to offer. Let's face it, if things were that bad, all of us sex tourists would not be flying thousands of miles at great expense to be indulging in this hobby. We are already voting with our time and dollars. Why not present this in a more balanced light?

[QUOTE=Optimist;2342038]Craiova. If you want to pay 100 for 30 minutes then fine by me. I pay 50 for each 30 minutes, and so do loads of other guys, although as Delta says, this is not always very easy at Sharks. I am not sure why you tell such guys to abandon Germany.

Maybe I am fighting a losing battle, especially as I am told by a more experienced member than I, that prices worldwide are rising. And to be honest, in some countries I would be willing to pay way more than 100 for 30 minutes

I, like you, am surprised at the way quite a few girls now are really clueless about sex, even when they are trying hard[/QUOTE]100 for 30 is not fine for me that too when you are in ISG if a new comer gives it it is OK if you want to give have some extra included in it not all have the money. In fact few have to cater for flight and hotel also in the budget.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2342169]I recognized the scream of the girl when it happened. It was in the early afternoon and not many people in the hall. According to a German guy it's Ayala (pale skin), the Russian girl. I remember that Anjelica was talking to her in Russian language. This German guy also confirmed that unfortunately the leg is broken as he was told later.[/QUOTE]Well, it was only a matter of time. I wonder if Health and Safety at Work will get involved? That's the last thing Sharks needs.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2342004]All this complains about "upselling" and pricing and this before the background there wasn't any price increase at german P6 service for at least the last 20 years. For instance P6 prices in Thailand are now at least 4 times higher compared with 20 years ago.

And it's funny almost all users here seems to forget that we had some mayor leagal changes excactly two years ago. Only this leagal change at July 1st 2017 should be reason enough to increase P6 prices.

Even with 100 Euro for 30 minutes German FKK clubs are still a very good option on world wide P6 scene.

So guys stop with this ridicules "upselling" complains und accept this or just go at other P6 countries.

I would be happy we had a general rule 100430 like it was 50430 around 10 years ago und I don't have to negoiate everything before and that I could find girls like 10 years ago instead of this Kindergarten girls nowadays haven't the slightest clue about good sex.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure there was 50/75 e in most NRW clubs 5 years ago.

I am pretty sure you had legal changes and not legal changes, but at a cost per girls point of view, the price is diminishing per session made. While the risk is for the guys, not the girls. And as seen in other countries, such risks normally lowers the prices, since less guys take the chance of P6 at all. In this situation, related to BBBJ.

Asian economies has been booming, mainly due to tourism. Local places in Asia is still dirt cheap. For the locals. But there is a double market. The general idea in western Europe is to not hold a double market. The double market in Asia made me stop going there. Racists.

Growth rates in Germany would suggest a price point at 60-65 euro now for the clubs that had 50 euro 15 years ago.

Nobody raises the price by 100% in one go. What happened to incremental increases? Every sane economist understands that there will be complaints if that happens. Doesn't matter the market, or any type of reasons made.

And lastly, why are you advocating for it?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2342213]I have never ever paid 100 Euro for a 30 M session at Sharks or for that matter in any other FKK. If the price were to be at that level, DE ceases to be the primary sex tourist destination FOR ME. I will still continue to visit once in a while if I happened to be in the vicinity for other business, but I will probably direct most of my sex business towards girls in my homeland in that scenario. As a volume consumer who takes 25 or more rooms in a trip, the math will not add up for me at 100 e30 m, simple as that. Thankfully, I don't need to worry about this right now.

That said, I read exasperation in the tone of Craiova and not necessarily that he is strongly advocating prices to be doubled. There is exasperation that quality of sex has declined due to girls cutting corners and upselling and doing other things to make sessions less pleasurable, and he made the point that prices having been stagnant for a long time was one reason behind this. That is an argument made by dozens of others as well. Even on these pages I have seen many posters say they would be supportive of 10 E price increase, but of course for every such poster there is always another member who wants to be tough and declares that no price increase is ever necessary. I have no judgement on either type of poster, everyone is entitled to his opinion.[/QUOTE]Sorry but can t agree with you, in the recent years the quality of the LU are deteriorating a lot, less new and fresh girls, lot of girls not in the job just hunting Asian guys for quick money, for me it is really difficult to find a girl at Shark or World always the same veteran girls around. I am not interested in Artemis type girls, may be all this can explain why we are complaining about up selling, we want to pay but for beauties young and fresh and not for over fucked prostitutes even they are only 25 YO.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2342004]All this complains about "upselling" and pricing
Even with 100 Euro for 30 minutes German FKK clubs are still a very good option on world wide P6 scene.

So guys stop with this ridicules "upselling" complains und accept this or just go at other P6 countries.

I would be happy we had a general rule 100430 [/QUOTE]Feeling some sympathy with the general point Craiova makes. That there is an awful lot of carping about prices and negotiation.

My 2 cents:

1. I would not agree that there should be an outright policy of 100/30 and I believe for many guys it would kill off FKKs and that is no good for any of us.

2. I totally agree with other who have posted that the simple strategy is to go for 100/60 with many you know who provide good service. If the girl refuses this even before you get to the room, that's crazy and discard her as many will accept. Think about this. For every guy thinking that he might want to only have 30 minutes, if you have to pay 100 for that you are as well to negotiate 100/60 anyway, pay the same price, and if the girl is poor in service accept that you can take your time pounding her for up to an hour if you want! I have not come across many girls who refuse 100/60. They are guaranteed you are paying 100 at least then and for them to "waste" 30 minutes is not at all bad. They are more than likely to be hanging around waiting in that time anyway and many will be confident of the punter not lasting the full hour anyway.

3. If you'the told me the first time I visited an FKK (Artemis for me) and was in the presence of over 100 naked women that I had to pay 100/30 or even 200/60 (120/30 240/60 at Artemis which is 10/30 more expensive) I'the have said it was a great deal. Not because that is cheap sex. It is not. But because the overall experience of many naked women sitting around waiting for you to have sex with is so terrific. It's better than Asia and the fish bowls. It's better than the clubs in Spain where you don't get to see what you are really buying before you get to the room (though I do love sexy dresses and lingerie!) and it's much better than USA or Dubai where prices are high and options low. Where else in the World do 100+ naked women congregate? FKK land is a paradise to any guy who loves this sport. So the prices are not so high and there are deals to be done.

4. It is positively dangerous for any guy to readily just accept its 200/60. It sets the benchmark. I agree that 100% price increase is just not acceptable anywhere.

5. It is often false economy to increase prices. I loved the old 50/30 then 25/30 deal at Samya. It died when Oceans opened. Guys love to feel they were getting a bargain. As a result, knowing I could get a girl in the room for an hour at 75 I'the regularly take two and sometimes three girls into the room for an hour. Then I've love it, end up buying us all drinks, extend for another hour and would come out having had a fabulous time but realising my 2 hours of "cheap fun" had just cost me 400-500 euros by the time the odd extra and drink was thrown in. So not so cheap at all!

I've found (even as an occasional tourist) that girls get to know if the punter is the quick 30 minutes, pay as little as possible punter (in which case they will hold out for 100/30) or if (like me) you are at least 1 hour if service is good, maybe more, and that as a result I have no problem at all getting very pretty girls to agree to 100/60 immediately. Result is that actually prices have not increased at all! I also find if you start off with 100/60 and say if it's excellent you may well extend to at least 90 minutes for 150 there don't haggle about the third 30 minutes being only 50, and there is no need to start negotiations on DFK, BBBJ and DATY. I just announce before I go up that "of course for 100 that includes. (all of the above) yes?" Girls do not refuse or try to upsell as they don't want to lose a punter looking at 100+ sessions.

So the carping is indeed not justified because with the right strategy there is no increase!

There are some girls who are charging 100 E for 30 M and some guys who are paying such price. I'm not one of them, so this comment I am writing is necessarily second hand knowledge. But even in those sessions, the upselling continues. Having secured a price which is exactly double the prevailing official rate that most other guys are paying to most other girls, the double priced girls still aggressive seek to sell other services such as anal, CIM, lesbian, threesome, and other.

So, if the idea behind the unilateral 100% price increase is that it will make the girls provide great service uniformly, I do not believe that will be case.

I find the current system just fine. There are some good girls who provide good service at the official price, some weak guys who pay excessive amounts, some Asian hunters who will try to overcharge and upselling aggressively, and so on. This is as a normal market should be. Men who want a good deal can still negotiate one for themselves. In the real world outside no one is watching out for you, and if you are foolish enough to be suckered there will be scammers who will oblige you. It is the same in the clubs.

Having said all that, it would be nice and helpful if people kept upselling complaints under control or at least balance it with positives they see. A five sentence review about a club, with 4 of them complaining how horrible is the club due to upselling and aggressive girls and some other bad thing about the club, with a snide concluding remark that they will never ever attend the club is hardly productive or helpful. Sometimes it appears that some of these guys have their own personal agenda to put specific clubs down and make up facts as they go.

Hi everyone,

I'm thinking about visiting a FKK club for the first time and it seems like Sharks is one of the better clubs to visit. I was wondering, what type of woman work at these clubs? I'm a big fan of enhanced blondes.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2342415]Where else in the World do 100+ naked women congregate? FKK land is a paradise to any guy who loves this sport. So the prices are not so high and there are deals to be done.[/QUOTE]Macau Saunas, Chinese KTV's, Angeles (ph), Pattaya gogo's, BKK gogo's, any Thai discoteque. And there are rumors of similar things in Myanmar and Cambodia which I haven't seen. But in Myanmar there is at least one place with 100+ girls in one spot also. Not sure how good their English is though.

I don't know the Americas as much, but the largest in Europe is Paradiso or something on the Spanish / french border. I suspect Brazil has some places. Even heard the northern city of Fortaleza is a hotspot where you can almost pick and choose anywhere, so its not just Rio. Not to mention some of the Colombian cities. Especially now with the Venezuelan crisis and girls pouring over.

Africa has the Kenya and Madagascar seaside towns. Costa Rica and Dominican Republic has some busy towns / clubs for this in central america / Caribbeans. And I am sure I forgot something. Not sure about the price points everywhere though.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2341975]I have been to Sharks many times and always managed to have a good time besides a few scammers. On Friday night it was horrible, almost every girl wanted 100 for 30 minutes with kissing and BBBJ. No one would even take 100 for 60, finally a German girl of Egyptian origin came along to save the day. The lineup was not that great either.

If it is like this, there is little to recommend Sharks to me at this point.[/QUOTE]There are girls who are my spec who do 100 for 60 with good kissing and service. YMMV.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2341014]I am heading over to Germany in 2 weeks and will end up in Frankfurt. Was going to go to Sharks or Oase but the more I read the more I am leaning Sharks. I am Asian but grew up American. Look more Hawaiian. Big guy, played American football and I used to do MMA.

Am I still going to be hunted? Would rather not deal with Asian hunters at all.

Any tips for a first timer? Anyone care to join on the 12th?

I have read pages and pages and got the gist. Don't let me know it's my first time. Don't go for the bullshit upsell. 50 for 30/100 for 60. Not a big extras guy but I like kissing. However if the hygiene isn't there (not a smoker) and if they are not showering or brushing between sessions I'd rather not get your cum in my mouth. No offense. LOL.

Thanks for any tips.[/QUOTE]Asian American guy here. I'm 6'1, 230. Do you think all Asians are short or something? Makes no difference, because yes, you will be Asian hunted.

I just give a quick chat and reply with a firm 'no thank you', and they go away. Don't say "maybe later", because they will definitely keep coming back.

Be careful to not be an asshole though. Because that will get around the club and other girls will just avoid you.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2342169]I recognized the scream of the girl when it happened. It was in the early afternoon and not many people in the hall. According to a German guy it's Ayala (pale skin), the Russian girl. I remember that Anjelica was talking to her in Russian language. This German guy also confirmed that unfortunately the leg is broken as he was told later.[/QUOTE]So sad knowing this. I witnessed the fall from the other end of the club where I was chatting with a girl in the upstairs section with the couches. It put a real damper on our conversation as we knew it was bad. The John she was with was walking behind her. Guys please hold the hands of your ladies when walking up and especially down the stairs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2342700]So sad knowing this. I witnessed the fall from the other end of the club where I was chatting with a girl in the upstairs section with the couches. It put a real damper on our conversation as we knew it was bad. The John she was with was walking behind her. Guys please hold the hands of your ladies when walking up and especially down the stairs.[/QUOTE]So many times I see guys walking 1 meter in front of the girl after the session, I will never understand that behavior. Shark stairs are quite dangerous with high hills, I am always supporting the girls up or down the stairs.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2342458]Macau Saunas, Chinese KTV's, Angeles (ph), Pattaya gogo's, BKK gogo's, any Thai discoteque. And there are rumors of similar things in Myanmar and Cambodia which I haven't seen. But in Myanmar there is at least one place with 100+ girls in one spot also. Not sure how good their English is though.

I don't know the Americas as much, but the largest in Europe is Paradiso or something on the Spanish / french border. I suspect Brazil has some places. Even heard the northern city of Fortaleza is a hotspot where you can almost pick and choose anywhere, so its not just Rio. Not to mention some of the Colombian cities. Especially now with the Venezuelan crisis and girls pouring over.

Africa has the Kenya and Madagascar seaside towns. Costa Rica and Dominican Republic has some busy towns / clubs for this in central america / Caribbeans. And I am sure I forgot something. Not sure about the price points everywhere though.[/QUOTE]With the exception of Brazil there isn't a single location here I'd want to bother with. I've travelled extensively and I've not yet come across the same set up as FKKs where you don't just pick from fishbowls but can mingle all day with naked girls, swim with them in summer, have outdoor sex, get food, rest, go to a gym (Artemis), watch porn in kino's, go to sado rooms, have parties, see pole dancing, play table footy and shoot pens or table tennis (Oase) all with naked girls in tow, get a massage (professionally) and enjoy more sessions. All without a single care for danger (none I've seen).

Not aware of Paradiso but I know Spain very well indeed and visit regularly and I'd be very shocked to know of 100% naked girls walking around all day. You can sunbathe with topless girls at some of the Casas outside of Marbella who will then session. But not 100+ girls naked anywhere I know in Spain and I know it well. Wouldn't dream of mongering in Kenya and Madagasgar and wouldn't feel safe in some of these other locations at all. So for me, 100/60 is still great value. You cannot get that almost anywhere in Spain now. Milady Palace (Marbella 320/ hour), Vive (Madrid and still the best club I've ever been to - 240/ hour), Scandalos Malaga (220/ hour) Glass Palace Estepona (220 hour). Sure there is the fabulous E92 in Fuengirola (actually Carjaval) which is still 150/ hour. But in not one of these fine locations are there naked women walking around / sunbathing etc. 150/ hour is considered a great deal in Southern Spain now. In the UK 150 hour is for escorts only and 200 for most decent girls in London with bait and switch and photo shopped girls. I need not mention USA. So that leaves Australia (expensive), Dubai (expensive and risks the worst prison experience you can imagine so not worth it) and of course, as you say, the Far East. Cheaper but if you are not into Asian girls not great as no other real choices.

Hence. For me at least (not been to Brazil but would love to try it) FKKs still represent the best, and cheapest, sex in the World given the facilities on offer, and the wonder of being surrounded by so many naked ladies.

Totally agree. FKKs stand out among all the places in terms of Safety, quality, quantity, location, language and price.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2342769]With the exception of Brazil there isn't a single location here I'd want to bother with. I've travelled extensively and I've not yet come across the same set up as FKKs where you don't just pick from fishbowls but can mingle all day with naked girls, swim with them in summer, have outdoor sex, get food, rest, go to a gym (Artemis), watch porn in kino's, go to sado rooms, have parties, see pole dancing, play table footy and shoot pens or table tennis (Oase) all with naked girls in tow, get a massage (professionally) and enjoy more sessions. All without a single care for danger (none I've seen).

Not aware of Paradiso but I know Spain very well indeed and visit regularly and I'd be very shocked to know of 100% naked girls walking around all day. You can sunbathe with topless girls at some of the Casas outside of Marbella who will then session. But not 100+ girls naked anywhere I know in Spain and I know it well. Wouldn't dream of mongering in Kenya and Madagasgar and wouldn't feel safe in some of these other locations at all. So for me, 100/60 is still great value. You cannot get that almost anywhere in Spain now. Milady Palace (Marbella 320/ hour), Vive (Madrid and still the best club I've ever been to - 240/ hour), Scandalos Malaga (220/ hour) Glass Palace Estepona (220 hour). Sure there is the fabulous E92 in Fuengirola (actually Carjaval) which is still 150/ hour. But in not one of these fine locations are there naked women walking around / sunbathing etc. 150/ hour is considered a great deal in Southern Spain now. In the UK 150 hour is for escorts only and 200 for most decent girls in London with bait and switch and photo shopped girls. I need not mention USA. So that leaves Australia (expensive), Dubai (expensive and risks the worst prison experience you can imagine so not worth it) and of course, as you say, the Far East. Cheaper but if you are not into Asian girls not great as no other real choices.

Hence. For me at least (not been to Brazil but would love to try it) FKKs still represent the best, and cheapest, sex in the World given the facilities on offer, and the wonder of being surrounded by so many naked ladies.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2342769]With the exception of Brazil there isn't a single location here I'd want to bother with. I've travelled extensively and I've not yet come across the same set up as FKKs where you don't just pick from fishbowls but can mingle all day with naked girls, swim with them in summer, have outdoor sex, get food, rest, go to a gym (Artemis), watch porn in kino's, go to sado rooms, have parties, see pole dancing, play table footy and shoot pens or table tennis (Oase) all with naked girls in tow, get a massage (professionally) and enjoy more sessions. All without a single care for danger (none I've seen).

Not aware of Paradiso but I know Spain very well indeed and visit regularly and I'd be very shocked to know of 100% naked girls walking around all day. You can sunbathe with topless girls at some of the Casas outside of Marbella who will then session. But not 100+ girls naked anywhere I know in Spain and I know it well. Wouldn't dream of mongering in Kenya and Madagasgar and wouldn't feel safe in some of these other locations at all. So for me, 100/60 is still great value. You cannot get that almost anywhere in Spain now. Milady Palace (Marbella 320/ hour), Vive (Madrid and still the best club I've ever been to - 240/ hour), Scandalos Malaga (220/ hour) Glass Palace Estepona (220 hour). Sure there is the fabulous E92 in Fuengirola (actually Carjaval) which is still 150/ hour. But in not one of these fine locations are there naked women walking around / sunbathing etc. 150/ hour is considered a great deal in Southern Spain now. In the UK 150 hour is for escorts only and 200 for most decent girls in London with bait and switch and photo shopped girls. I need not mention USA. So that leaves Australia (expensive), Dubai (expensive and risks the worst prison experience you can imagine so not worth it) and of course, as you say, the Far East. Cheaper but if you are not into Asian girls not great as no other real choices.

Hence. For me at least (not been to Brazil but would love to try it) FKKs still represent the best, and cheapest, sex in the World given the facilities on offer, and the wonder of being surrounded by so many naked ladies.[/QUOTE]In Spain there are also a lot of Romanian girls like in the FKK, most of the prostitutes in europe are from Romania, they are increasing prices and decreasing service, even in Shark it is more and more difficult to find new comers in the P6 scene, young and fresh, mostly veteran girls around switching from escort in Italy or London to clubs in Spain to FKK and brothels. I am only looking for top beauties, no sili, hair extensions, Botox, latches. I got some great experiences recently in China and Vietnam with none pro girls really into having great sex.

50 E / 60 min is still common or no? I'm reading thru these reviews and you guys are saying very different things. Some say it's almost impossible, with others saying it's very common. Which is it?

I haven't been back to FKKs since Jan 2018, have these prices changed a lot?

Sure, all of those points clumped into one and you only have FKK's. But other locations checks off some of the boxes. Just not all of them. 100 girls you find in many places. If they are sunbathing is a much trickier question. And that's where most competition falls off.

Is Leah (DE) still at sharks? Do you know if she works weekdays or weekends now? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2342855]50 E / 60 min is still common or no? I'm reading thru these reviews and you guys are saying very different things. Some say it's almost impossible, with others saying it's very common. Which is it?

I haven't been back to FKKs since Jan 2018, have these prices changed a lot?[/QUOTE]50 E /30 min, sorry typo.

Is 50 E /30 still common? Or do all girls only do 100 E /60 now?

[QUOTE=Kaf003;2342855]50 E / 60 min is still common or no? I'm reading thru these reviews and you guys are saying very different things. Some say it's almost impossible, with others saying it's very common. Which is it?

I haven't been back to FKKs since Jan 2018, have these prices changed a lot?[/QUOTE]That's not what is being said. It's still 50 EUR for 30 minutes and 100 EUR for 60 minutes. The problem is that none of the girls like it and want more for extra's.

30 M sessions for 50 E including BBBJ and some kissing can be had from several good looking young ladies at Sharks. I made 3 trips so far this year. Not all my sessions are of the 50 E kind. I do a mix of 50 E30 M, 100 E60 M, and longer sessions. I never paid extra cash for BBBJ or kissing, at Sharks or at other FKKs.

That sums up MY personal experience. I cannot comment on what other men are paying or doing in the rooms.

I just find it weird how in all of this only 50 notes are really counted. So it seems the only new price point for some is an extra 50 note. Just seems to badly thought through. Even if you say you will tip 10 or even 20, its almost like those 10 or 20 doesn't seem to matter with some. Oh well, I've seen at least some differences from girls to girls also.

[QUOTE=Mangga;2342984]Is Leah (DE) still at sharks? Do you know if she works weekdays or weekends now? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Last Monday she wasn't in. But I suppose as she still is part of the line-up as she is making a good business there. Last Time I saw her she told me to leave that day in the later afternoon after nine days staying there. She always makes 7-10 days and then a break of the same time.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2343078]Even if you say you will tip 10 or even 20, its almost like those 10 or 20 doesn't seem to matter with some. Oh well, I've seen at least some differences from girls to girls also.[/QUOTE]I only tip the grils with whom I already shared several rooms with full satisfaction. These are the save bets and I usually can be sure to get a very good service all the times independent of tipping. Tipping a girl after an average session in hope to get a better session next time. Forget it. Very often these girls even won't recognize you the next time but the tip is always welcome for the slot machine or for buying cigarettes.

Hello,

I have been an active reader for a year now and I just created this profile because my experience is really different than yours and its also my first time there (I don't know why maybe just lucky?

I visited on Tuesday (was on a layover and I knew it wasn't the best day but I had to kill time so I had to stay all the way till the end).

To put you into context I'm around 25 years old, and I arrived very drunk (I was drinking on the way there and I guess it got out of hand), at the reception they almost denied me entry (OMG).

I kind of forced it and the girl at the reception let me in, I guess I was really drunk so I told myself if a girl sees me like that she might report me (it was about midnight), so I hid in the garden for like an hour until I sobered up and went hunting around 1 am, I talked to an average girl (no way I remember her name) black hair, average boobs, I mean she looked okay for a first time.

We agree 50€/30 we go in the room, me on top and after 2 mns she's like " hey you can't fuck " in the most degrading way and she was like " we're changing positions " and she went on top of me until I came (didn't take me too long LOL), it was horrible and its like she was pissed at me.

Anyway I don't comment and I pay her, and I stay for almost 2 hours very pissed at the place, I talked to another girl (she wanted 100€, so I laughed and walked away).

Around 3 am, the pressure is kind of hitting me and I'm like I need to fuck someone right now. So this girl with brown / ginger hair from Romania (no name but she has tattoos all over he back and a beautiful ass with perky tits), she talks to me for a minute and she agrees to 50€/30, we talk on the way to the room about everything (keep in mind there's like 3-4 girls and 6-7 clients all over the place. We finally find a room and we start laughing together about something I said, I start complimenting her about her tattoos and then her body etc. , anyway out of nowhere she starts making out with me and it gets intense to the point that she didn't suck my dick and we almost forgot the condom, we start fucking and I'm getting all that GF experience without asking for it.

Anyway at the end, we're both in a good mood and I pay her and go back to the bar, she then starts dancing around me (but not directly but she stays close), keep in mind it's 3:30 am.

I keep looking at her and I tell myself lets go again, we finally make eye contact and I ask her to come (she doesn't respond acting like she's not seeing me) and keeps dancing alone. She finally decided to come and I look at her all smiles: " hey my dick is so hard because of you, lets go again but we only have 15 mns okay " , she's like okay then but it's like we knew each other from another life LOL (she's Romanian and I live in Canada so nothing in common). Anyway we go in the room and we start kissing for like 10 mn (she's initiating it), even when I try and kiss her neck she always goes for a kiss (we never agreed to this it just happened naturally), anyway we fuck in every position you can imagine (I guess I was her last client so she was giving everything she has, around 4 cleaning ladies keep knocking and she ignored them twice until they end up going in on us (we had finished sex but we were still kissing LOL), when they came in I dressed myself (still had the condom on all the way until I paid her). We ended exchanging instagram and she gave also me her whatsapp.

Really sorry for the long post I kind of got caught up with my story, just keep in mind I was working on mindfucking her (giving her compliments without doing it too much). Which I think played a role in all this. Anyway tell me what you think or if anyone had something similar.

I've been to Sharks three times now over the past year and I almost decided to go to Oase this time, just to check it out and because my last time at Sharks was less than spectacular, but I decided to go back to Sharks based on feedback from reading the forum. I'm glad I went back.

I got there around 6:45 p after a train ride to Darmstadt Hbf and a €12 cab ride to the front door. I've done Darmstadt Noord and I've done the walk across town. Gentlemen, pay the €12 and get dropped off. I'll never do it the other ways again. The vibe feels good as I walk in. I can see lots of girls, probably about 35, and a decent amount of guys. Lots of Japanese guys today. After showering I head to the bar for an espresso and some water to charge myself up and then outside to the pool to see what's going on. Most of the guys are chilling at the bar or sleeping in loungers by the pool. A few girls roaming and sitting around here or there, but most of them are inside. I post up by the pool hoping to catch a few remaining rays of sun, get in to the experience, and catch sight of some of the girls without being approached too much. There are two girls next to me in one of the pods by the pool and we just start having normal conversation. They joking complain about all the guys napping and we just shoot the shit. After about thirty minutes they say they're not going to make any money if they don't get back to work, so we say our goodbyes, no pressure for sex or anything, they get up and do their thing. Just a pleasant experience among all the transactions.

At this point the dinner bell is ringing and people start waking up and getting food. I take a lap inside again and don't feel the allure of anyone yet. I go sit in the area just outside where the TVs are in good position to see girls walking in and out. I see a little cutie named Selena, Ro, mid-20's, dark hair walks out. We lock eyes, she comes over and sits on my lap. Immediate chemistry. She has a fun personality, we're finishing each other's sentences, it's go time. We grab a cabana, agree to 60 min, DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, and CIM for €150. I'm not getting any bargains, but I'm getting what I want. Enthusiasm - and we're having fun. We get done in about 45 minutes and we part ways. I see her later in the club and we joke around for a minute. Just friendly, not for more sex. She was cool.

Now I've worked up a hunger. The food smell is lingering in the air and the vultures have cleared. I usually need to eat after I bust anyhow. Food is just okay. Steak, burgers, veggies boiling in some sauce, salad, sausages. I saw a lot of sweets in the dessert case, but I decided against it. They looked good though. As I'm throwing my things away grandma pulls me off to the side for a minute. Now, I mean this lady no disrespect, she just looks like she's a grandma. She grabs me by the arm and says, "Just sit with me for two minutes. No sex. " I don't want to be rude, so we sit down, I listen to her for about a minutes, and she lays down to display herself for purchase at which point I've got to get out of there. I give her a kiss on the hand and tell her I'm not interested and walk away fast. I think her name was Natasha. Something Russian sounding, but she said she was from Venice. I don't know. I imagine she has to work hard to get paid, so no disrespect, but not my style and worth the write up.

Feeling well fed and taken care of, I make my way upstairs to the horseshoe couches on the left to recharge a little and catch a glimpse of all the girls from above without too much solicitation. There are probably 50+ girls around now. Mostly looking great for my taste. The place is buzzing with energy. I see these two beautiful blonde girls just devouring an Asian guy on the couch across from me. I'm kind of half watching and smiling. One of the girls sees me and smiles back. We all know what's up. I stop, look around, and pause to think about how great this place is. A couple girls swing by and I dismiss them. Mostly due to whether not I'm ready to go again. I'm feeling like it's possible, but want to be sure. That's when Delia, Ro. 29, dark hair, dark complexion, curvy comes by. I'd seen her earlier and taken note, so I was happy for her to sit down and chat with me. It immediately becomes clear that she's smart and she's not a girl, she's a woman. But youthful. She tells me she's only been there about a month and a half. She just came from another FKK. I didn't ask which one. She's not pressuring me, we're just having sexy conversation, our personalities are clicking. I already think she's fine as hell and now we're connecting on an intellectual level. I feel recharged by her presence. She casually mentions €50 for 30, +50 for extras, but she doesn't try to upsell me. Let's do this. We decide on €100 for 30 minutes, CFS, BBBJ, and CIM. She's surprised when I hold her hand down the steps and tells me I'm a gentleman and guys don't usually do this. Now, I'd do this anyhow, but I also heard about the girl falling the day before, and I had tripped a little going up the steps earlier. I'm making sure she gets to the room. She tells me about the accident and how the girl was screaming. I make a joke, she laughs at my stupid joke, we're going to have fun. We're on the same wavelength. She is attentive to all my needs. She takes the right tempo and she is also enthusiastic and fun. A trait I look for exclusively after looks. We're in the act and faces are close. Kisses need to happen. She tells me it'll be another €50. I want it, but I decide the CIM is more important and I didn't want to spend the extra cash. It didn't break the flow of the event, so it was cool. Her CIM technique was perhaps the best I've ever experienced. Afterward we hang while she smokes and talk. Like I said, we were getting along on an intellectual level so this was good conversation. She tells me about college and her career before this one and what her plan for the future is. We definitely went over 30 minutes. We completed the transaction downstairs and parted quite amicably.

I know I'm done at this point, so I take a quick shower and make use of the pool for a little while before changing back into civilian clothes, taking the €10 ride back to the train station and wait for the S8 for 35 minutes.

Mission complete. Satisfaction achieved. See you next time.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2343078]I just find it weird how in all of this only 50 notes are really counted. So it seems the only new price point for some is an extra 50 note. Just seems to badly thought through. Even if you say you will tip 10 or even 20, its almost like those 10 or 20 doesn't seem to matter with some. Oh well, I've seen at least some differences from girls to girls also.[/QUOTE]After a session with a girl who gave me CBJ and refused me DATY, well, at the locker when I presented her with EUR 50 she says to me "Could you give me 5 euro tips?" I gave it to her. I'm just generous that way.

I will be coming in October. I have to stay in Frankfurt so I usually stick to Mainhattan and The Palace. I have never been to sharks. Will this place blow my mind compared to the other two places? Or for saving time and cab fare am I OK with sticking with the two listed? Thanks.

Sorry folks, that last post was from July 2 - just the other day. I'm still recovering from jet lag I guess.

[QUOTE=JDavid1976;2343289]I will be coming in October. I have to stay in Frankfurt so I usually stick to Mainhattan and The Palace. I have never been to sharks. Will this place blow my mind compared to the other two places? Or for saving time and cab fare am I OK with sticking with the two listed? Thanks.[/QUOTE]In term of facility and qty of girls, Shark is way better than those two. However, it can become boring and waste of time if you cannot find someone you like. Different people have different taste.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2343265]After a session with a girl who gave me CBJ and refused me DATY, well, at the locker when I presented her with EUR 50 she says to me "Could you give me 5 euro tips?" I gave it to her. I'm just generous that way.[/QUOTE]For me, 30/50 is E50. I will not even give tips if he service is bad.

[QUOTE=Paco1013;2343262]I've been to Sharks three times now over the past year and I almost decided to go to Oase this time, just to check it out and because my last time at Sharks was less than spectacular, but I decided to go back to Sharks based on feedback from reading the forum. I'm glad I went back.

I got there around 6:45 p after a train ride to Darmstadt Hbf and a 12 cab ride to the front door. I've done Darmstadt Noord and I've done the walk across town. Gentlemen, pay the 12 and get dropped off. I'll never do it the other ways again. The vibe feels good as I walk in. I can see lots of girls, probably about 35, and a decent amount of guys. Lots of Japanese guys today. After showering I head to the bar for an espresso and some water to charge myself up and then outside to the pool to see what's going on. Most of the guys are chilling at the bar or sleeping in loungers by the pool. A few girls roaming and sitting around here or there, but most of them are inside. I post up by the pool hoping to catch a few remaining rays of sun, get in to the experience, and catch sight of some of the girls without being approached too much. There are two girls next to me in one of the pods by the pool and we just start having normal conversation. They joking complain about all the guys napping and we just shoot the shit. After about thirty minutes they say they're not going to make any money if they don't get back to work, so we say our goodbyes, no pressure for sex or anything, they get up and do their thing. Just a pleasant experience among all the transactions...[/QUOTE]I am the one who love walking if the weather is not bad. When you are youth (below 50), I used to think walking and Taichi is joke. Now on the upper side of 50,I am in love of those things. If I don't have my walking (either in Gym or outside), swimming, or Taichi for couple of days, my body feels tired. Anyway, just my 2 cents.

I thought Selena is about 30+. Have Fun!

[QUOTE=Joezakary;2343145]Hello,

I have been an active reader for a year now and I just created this profile because my experience is really different than yours and its also my first time there (I don't know why maybe just lucky?

I visited on Tuesday (was on a layover and I knew it wasn't the best day but I had to kill time so I had to stay all the way till the end).

To put you into context I'm around 25 years old, and I arrived very drunk (I was drinking on the way there and I guess it got out of hand), at the reception they almost denied me entry (OMG).

I kind of forced it and the girl at the reception let me in, I guess I was really drunk so I told myself if a girl sees me like that she might report me (it was about midnight), so I hid in the garden for like an hour until I sobered up and went hunting around 1 am, I talked to an average girl (no way I remember her name) black hair, average boobs, I mean she looked okay for a first time.

We agree 50/30 we go in the room, me on top and after 2 mns she's like " hey you can't fuck " in the most degrading way and she was like " we're changing positions " and she went on top of me until I came (didn't take me too long LOL), it was horrible and its like she was pissed at me.

Anyway I don't comment and I pay her, and I stay for almost 2 hours very pissed at the place, I talked to another girl (she wanted 100, so I laughed and walked away).

Around 3 am, the pressure is kind of hitting me and I'm like I need to fuck someone right now. So this girl with brown / ginger hair from Romania (no name but she has tattoos all over he back and a beautiful ass with perky tits), she talks to me for a minute and she agrees to 50/30, we talk on the way to the room about everything (keep in mind there's like 3-4 girls and 6-7 clients all over the place. We finally find a room and we start laughing together about something I said, I start complimenting her about her tattoos and then her body etc. , anyway out of nowhere she starts making out with me and it gets intense to the point that she didn't suck my dick and we almost forgot the condom, we start fucking and I'm getting all that GF experience without asking for it.

Anyway at the end, we're both in a good mood and I pay her and go back to the bar, she then starts dancing around me (but not directly but she stays close), keep in mind it's 3:30 am.

I keep looking at her and I tell myself lets go again, we finally make eye contact and I ask her to come (she doesn't respond acting like she's not seeing me) and keeps dancing alone. She finally decided to come and I look at her all smiles: " hey my dick is so hard because of you, lets go again but we only have 15 mns okay " , she's like okay then but it's like we knew each other from another life LOL (she's Romanian and I live in Canada so nothing in common). Anyway we go in the room and we start kissing for like 10 mn (she's initiating it), even when I try and kiss her neck she always goes for a kiss (we never agreed to this it just happened naturally), anyway we fuck in every position you can imagine (I guess I was her last client so she was giving everything she has, around 4 cleaning ladies keep knocking and she ignored them twice until they end up going in on us (we had finished sex but we were still kissing LOL), when they came in I dressed myself (still had the condom on all the way until I paid her). We ended exchanging instagram and she gave also me her whatsapp.

Really sorry for the long post I kind of got caught up with my story, just keep in mind I was working on mindfucking her (giving her compliments without doing it too much). Which I think played a role in all this. Anyway tell me what you think or if anyone had something similar.[/QUOTE]Great first report, keep up the good work! I.

Hi,

Does anyone know the name of the lady that's tall, short blonde hair, older (maybe 40's), fit body type, and looks like Jamie lee Curtis in her 40's? Also, if you went with her what was it like?

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2343607]Hi,
Does anyone know the name of the lady that's tall, short blonde hair, older (maybe 40's), fit body type, and looks like Jamie lee Curtis in her 40's? Also, if you went with her what was it like?[/QUOTE]The one with the fake boobs? Her name is Lisa, she is from Czech Republic. Hard accent! But really nice woman. Despite her looks she can perform soft and tender in the room. Silicon enhanced boobs are IMHO too hard.

Pro: excellent blowjob and service.

Con: as far as I remember: if you want good service, minimum cost for half hour 100 E. For 1 hour 150 Euro.

[QUOTE=Joezakary;2343145]Hello,

I have been an active reader for a year now and I just created this profile because my experience is really different than yours and its also my first time there (I don't know why maybe just lucky?

I visited on Tuesday (was on a layover and I knew it wasn't the best day but I had to kill time so I had to stay all the way till the end).

To put you into context I'm around 25 years old, and I arrived very drunk (I was drinking on the way there and I guess it got out of hand), at the reception they almost denied me entry (OMG).

I kind of forced it and the girl at the reception let me in, I guess I was really drunk so I told myself if a girl sees me like that she might report me (it was about midnight), so I hid in the garden for like an hour until I sobered up and went hunting around 1 am, I talked to an average girl (no way I remember her name) black hair, average boobs, I mean she looked okay for a first time.

We agree 50/30 we go in the room, me on top and after 2 mns she's like " hey you can't fuck " in the most degrading way and she was like " we're changing positions " and she went on top of me until I came (didn't take me too long LOL), it was horrible and its like she was pissed at me..[/QUOTE]Hi Joe,

I had something similar and I'm bit older than you, feels that's how the girls react on fresh blood. They have more attraction especially if there is a click between persons and the body is in a fresher shape I believe, that's normal physiology. I also got some insta details, but this does not lead anywhere.

Sharks is a place to live momentum but not take in your daily life. Most of girls even if you would like to have something personal. The fact that you met them in sharks always puts a dot on any further personal feelings.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2343374]..........I thought Selena is about 30+. Have Fun![/QUOTE]I thought he was talking about another Selena because the Selena I know is not a little cutie with dark hair in her mid 20's but a 30+ with brown hair who's not big but she's not little. Although she's not really my type I've actually repeated with her as she has a really great attitude in and outside the room.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2343694]The one with the fake boobs? Her name is Lisa, she is from Czech Republic. Hard accent! But really nice woman. Despite her looks she can perform soft and tender in the room. Silicon enhanced boobs are IMHO too hard.

Pro: excellent blowjob and service.

Con: as far as I remember: if you want good service, minimum cost for half hour 100 E. For 1 hour 150 Euro.[/QUOTE]Yeah. The one with the fake looking boobs. Thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2343607]Hi,

Does anyone know the name of the lady that's tall, short blonde hair, older (maybe 40's), fit body type, and looks like Jamie lee Curtis in her 40's? Also, if you went with her what was it like?[/QUOTE]Yes, I did a 1 hour 100 Euro; can't remember her name, if it's the girl I'm thinking of she was sitting on the couches by the stripper pole. Really good session; BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions, no upsell and didn't cheat on the time. Will see her again.

Selina, 31 yo, with long blond hair to ass, very friendly, but missing attraction for me, but said to be good in room and I m pretty sure no upselling. Long time Selena who was blond on 2015/2016 , returned with black hair, sitting on couches close to entry. Even no dream for me but I like her.

At the moment, Albanian Anja is back with heavy make up, but her jealous small size is not anymore as I told her. Also long time Cosmina with Evita and granny Sylvana back, already hunting in the garden under sun at noon, only her is able to do this. No wow seen, but I'm always happy to see Madalina, now with red hair, reminds me what have been Sharks, or Misha. Also Esther, Paloma, Karin, Analea ex Amanda Finca but not so pretty than at Finca, but I m happy for her if more money as she said. Viorica allowed me to write she is now black hair with white skin, she knows me as a writer, of course she was said about me. Prettiest face for me is Elena with wonderful eyes, but I m afraid for silicon and always hidden under towel. To my German friend, couldn't notice new Elektra when I turned around so much, I'm Sharks marathon man, Ethiopians and Kenyans could not compete. For what I call real women, for look and behavior, not schoolgirls nor Barbie, Nana ex Oase even I preferred in Oase garden, but her French friend wish her the best, she knows how I love women and run away from prostitute behavior, also Cristina. Usually I choose, but this time she chose me, in a very charming, sweet smiling way, but I'm not used to this in brothels where I prefer to choose, so I took a long time to decide and I was also exhausted for my third FKK day, also working in clubs and at night when I left clubs at 3 am, nearly not sleeping, best sleep was a bit more than 1 hour in Villa Vanilla garden before discovering Latvian and Russian dancers, wow when Lee. Late came to me. When I decided, I did let Cristina having diner, girls feel better after a break, then we went to garden chalet after very hot chalet with Nana to start her day as always, to feel woman. 28 yo mum, 10 years working in Italy, but still a bit of chic I needed to stay woken up, all is fluent for sex with Cristina, very skillful for BJ, GFE sex, no money talk with Cristina nor Nana, women at Sharks, thanks to both, when I was answered by a pretty face who smiled to me, inviting me to sit with her, nice chat, but kissing is for lovers. As a lover, I need to enjoy, but only a lover in bed, not out of clubs. FKK games stay in brothels.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2343752]I thought he was talking about another Selena because the Selena I know is not a little cutie with dark hair in her mid 20's but a 30+ with brown hair who's not big but she's not little.[/QUOTE]There are two women with a similar sounding name there. One calls herself Celina (long dark-blonde hair, pale skin, 30 or more years old, worked at FKK-World before, speaks german too). The other calls herself Selena (smaller, black hair, younger). Both often sit together at the so-called "Kindertisch" (children table), on the front end of the couch, directly below the left side of the stair that leads up to the rooms.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2343951]There are two women with a similar sounding name there. One calls herself Celina (long dark-blonde hair, pale skin, 30 or more years old, worked at FKK-World before, speaks german too). The other calls herself Selena (smaller, black hair, younger). Both often sit together at the so-called "Kindertisch" (children table), on the front end of the couch, directly below the left side of the stair that leads up to the rooms.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the rectification. I was obviously referring to your Celina. Never interviewed Selena probably because I like taller girls. I prefer tall and less cute to short and cute.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2343368]For me, 30/50 is E50. I will not even give tips if he service is bad.[/QUOTE]If service is bad Complain at the desk.

[QUOTE=JDavid1976;2343289]I will be coming in October. I have to stay in Frankfurt so I usually stick to Mainhattan and The Palace. I have never been to sharks. Will this place blow my mind compared to the other two places? Or for saving time and cab fare am I OK with sticking with the two listed? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It will not blow your mind but can visit them for experience. Oase has taxi service. 5 euro shark is must visit once.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2343946]Selina, 31 yo, with long blond hair to ass, very friendly, but missing attraction for me, but said to be good in room and I m pretty sure no upselling. Long time Selena who was blond on 2015/2016 , returned with black hair, sitting on couches close to entry. Even no dream for me but I like her.

At the moment, Albanian Anja is back with heavy make up, but her jealous small size is not anymore as I told her. Also long time Cosmina with Evita and granny Sylvana back, already hunting in the garden under sun at noon, only her is able to do this. No wow seen, but I'm always happy to see Madalina, now with red hair, reminds me what have been Sharks, or Misha. Also Esther, Paloma, Karin, Analea ex Amanda Finca but not so pretty than at Finca, but I m happy for her if more money as she said. Viorica allowed me to write she is now black hair with white skin, she knows me as a writer, of course she was said about me. Prettiest face for me is Elena with wonderful eyes, but I m afraid for silicon and always hidden under towel..[/QUOTE]Also claimed 2 sisters, Alina and Sabrina ex World, glamour hair for Sabrina. No Amalia nor Elif. Leonie. De, Brenda, Yellis, Rebeka, Francesca, Melani, small brunette Debora, a small Asian type girl.

[QUOTE=VishudJb;2343961]If service is bad Complain at the desk.[/QUOTE]Yes of course like in the kindergarten don t hesitate to go to the desk.

As many of you know, I have made Sharks my base. Only after the recent trip, I developed an itch to try a new club. Primarily because, at this point, I know pretty much every girl there (spoken to; not had sex). I did notice some new ones, especially, a complete stunner from Globe who won't do anything less than 150 E /60 m or 100 E /30 m. I think her name was Morena or Morina. Well, something that starts with an M. She's about 5'5" without heels, petite, b-cup, sits by the couch across the dance pole. She has a beautiful black and red tattoo on her upper back. If anyone has been with her, could you please share your experience? OK, getting back to the point I was making that Sharks is becoming boring because the rate of fresh faces isn't high so not a lot of new girls and I hate to keep turning down some of the existing girls.

I did multiple rooms with my favorites. It's important to keep them happy. Now here are the new girls:

[B]Damina:[/B] 24, Ro, petite, very cute face and smile, a-cup, giant tattoo on her thigh to rib cage (can't remember left or right). Did a 100 E /60 m session. Killer session Complete GFE and probably the best blow job I have ever experienced. It was so good I almost came in her mouth. So stopped her from working on me with such passion and I focused on her. She enjoyed my attention but said it's incredibly tough for her to cum. She has been in the industry for 4 years and at this point she has become jaded. I didn't enjoy that very much. Outside of that, the session was absolutely outstanding.

[B]Anya / Anja:[/B] Can't remember her age, half Ro / half Italian, cute face, petite, be-cup. Did a 100 E /60 m session. She was very enthusiastic in the room. Full GFE. Had a nice session but I won't repeat. Good but not great and given the options we have at the club, the time and money I have, I have to be picky.

[B]Angela:[/B] Can't remember her age, Ro, petite, incredibly hot body and also very beautiful face and smile. Very positive attitude, cheerful and always smiling. She was also funny. Quite the woman! I always ask for GFE and that's what I got. This session was slightly different in that I spent most of my time on her. Loved it and added her to my list of favorites. We ended up doing 150 E /90 m. Although, I did sternly warned her to not expect another 90 m session. I'm a 100 E /60 m guy. One quick note about her. She doesn't do 30 m /50 E session. In fact, that's why I didn't go with her on my first trip. We spoke, we clicked but I rejected her with "let me get back to you". In the subsequent trip, I decided the risk is warranted and went for a 60 m session but ended up with 90 m. Well worth it though. If you guys can spare 100 E /60 m, I highly recommend her.

[B]Nana:[/B] 30, Croatia, petite, b-cup (silicone), pretty face, sometimes she wears glasses. I think she is one of the busiest girls at the club. Some night she would just disappear and would come out after many hours. One night, I found her sitting by the bar and grabbed the opportunity to talk to her. Now, silicone transplants aren't my thing. I prefer all natural but given how busy she has been, I thought I got to see what the fuss is about. So booked a room with her - 100 E /60 m. Let me tell you something guys, you haven't experienced GFE if you haven't been with her. She is incredibly passionate in the room. From the moment we started, till the time we finished, it felt natural! As if we met at a bar, hit it off, and she came back to my apartment. Thinking about it later, I realized why. She doesn't clean your dick in the middle of the session before BJ but at the start. Like in real world, you are in the heat of the moment, she goes down on you, she doesn't ask for baby wipes to clean your dick first. But it's a common practice in FFK! I think that's the difference with other girls and Nana. She gets it out the way at the start. Anyway, I was smiling for the next 5 hours. One thing I noticed was her fake boobs are exceptionally hard at the bottom. Not sure why. I strongly recommend her for anyone who is into GFE-style sessions.

[B]Tamaris:[/B] not sure about age, Ro, just a teeny bit extra pounds than the petite girls I prefer, cute face, curly hair, b-cup. Did a 50 E /30 m session. Started off OK as I don't expect much from a 30 m session anymore. Her boobs were nice to play with so I was getting a hard on but her blow job was very mediocre. Then the nastiest thing happened. She let out a fart. No sound; only smell. Absolutely repulsive. I was like WTF. She said it came from the shower in the room. I let it go but I just couldn't get over it. It was a total boner killer. Given her subpar BJ skills, this session ended right there for me. We tried for a little bit but I just couldn't stand being in the room with her. While we were about to leave, she made sit at the edge of the bed (closer to the shower), and asked me to smell. Nothing! I said nice try and we walked down. At the very least, she could have owned up to it instead of blaming the shower.

There was one more girl I did a room with but I can't remember her.

Noteworthy mentions:

- There is this new girl who was so tiny. Didn't talk to her but she was a bit popular.

- Another new girl with big fake boobs, pretty face, terrific ass, and a lot of tattoos on the back and side. She doesn't sit but only stands by the other end of the bar where there are rooms and WC. She speaks very little English so we switched to Spanish and got along well. However, our timing didn't work out. Perhaps next time.

- I already mentioned the ex-Globe stunner. If any of you have been with her, please do share how she is like. Is she a GFE-type girl?

Spoke with many girls. Had some very interesting chats and overall enjoyed my time. Loved the summer outdoors. Hated the food, especially dinner. I'm a vegetarian. In the winter and Spring, at least, they have veggie fried rice, noodles, and spring rolls but this is my first time visiting in the summer. Now, every day is a meat fest. I wish they had an entrance fee minus food.

That wraps it up, Gents.

So when you go for 60 m I am not an iron man and not sure I can go that long but I could probably go twice in that time. Is the time a one and done or go as many times for the 30 or 60 minutes?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2344071]Yes of course like in the kindergarten don t hesitate to go to the desk.[/QUOTE]Not sure Sharks desk would care much about complaint, answer should be: many girls, try another one. Anyway, I'm happy I never needed to take any girl in any club to a desk, I was also never taken to desk, usually girls return to me, like Nana coming straight when she saw me, she didn't forget Oase, unfortunately no bubbles at Sharks, but chalets in the garden, versus beds with certains.

Had good breakfast with salmon and orange juice, BBQ was higher level than usual for my taste, pork was good and also lamb, I ate many times, Sharks is a beautiful club, welcome from Blondi at the bar, I really like outside chalets, but small Gold Ratingen is more enjoyable for me at the moment, with entry only 25.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2344117]As many of you know, I have made Sharks my base. Only after the recent trip, I developed an itch to try a new club. Primarily because, at this point, I know pretty much every girl there (spoken to; not had sex). I did notice some new ones, especially, a complete stunner from Globe who won't do anything less than 150 E /60 m or 100 E /30 m. I think her name was Morena or Morina. Well, something that starts with an M. She's about 5'5" without heels, petite, b-cup, sits by the couch across the dance pole. She has a beautiful black and red tattoo on her upper back. If anyone has been with her, could you please share your experience?[/QUOTE]The Albanian girl with the large red and black tattoo on her back (see Flag of Albania.) calls herself "Mirona" now. Before she went to Globe she worked at Sharks under the name Anja.

I sessioned with her last week. It was a very good GFE and well worth it. Not sure why she told you 150/60. With me it was 50 E /30 M, BBBJ and DFK included with no questions asked and no upselling. I guess we just hit it off.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

Reading the posts in this thread, here and there, we do get slivers of information about certain girls being present or absent, etc. Towards that end:

I visited Sharks on several days spanning late June / early July and I was pleased to see (even more pleased to session with) the following girls who have returned to action after some time absent from the club:

Both Mandy and Marlyn, who were absent from Sharks for several weeks, both came back last week. Both in very good form and (no surprise) quite busy.

Ada with the gorgeous slim figure (my opinion), who had been absent for a couple of years, suddenly returned for the summer solstice and beyond. She used to sit by the fishtank, now moved a few metres away to nest with" the Jessica gang" right in front of the stairs leading to whirlpool deck.

My own take on the general state of the Sharks line up these days: Thumb's Up! During each of my visits, I encountered line ups featuring 60 to 100+ girls (even during the heat wave!) Lots of choices from both long-time, semi-long time and even brand new girls. You could say: There were just too many girls sometimes. Certainly alot of the girls themselves expressed this to me, because for various reasons (including issues with the heat) they were not getting enough buisness. My "to-do" list was always too long to actually accomplish rooms with all I wanted. Although during peak times there were (as normal) waits for rooms (but never more than, say, ten minutes), generally speaking it was not a big problem to hook up with whichever girl (s) you wanted. Yeah, overall, I was satisfied at Sharks these past two weeks and in my opinion Sharks now stands head and shoulders above the other big area clubs in terms of line up.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2344254]......................My own take on the general state of the Sharks line up these days: Thumb's Up! During each of my visits, I encountered line ups featuring 60 to 100+ girls (even during the heat wave!) Lots of choices from both long-time, semi-long time and even brand new girls. You could say: There were just too many girls sometimes. Certainly alot of the girls themselves expressed this to me, because for various reasons (including issues with the heat) they were not getting enough buisness............[/QUOTE]I do agree that Sharks is probably better than the others right now but on many of the days I attended during the past 3 months and especially in June I found it to be a sausage fest with all the best girls occupied. I dare say some guys keep the girls in the room for 4, 5 and 6 hours at a time. I do not session only the hottest girls like Sirioja but I avoid the plain Janes who were usually the ones always available.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2344170]So when you go for 60 m I am not an iron man and not sure I can go that long but I could probably go twice in that time. Is the time a one and done or go as many times for the 30 or 60 minutes?[/QUOTE]With 60 your chance of good service is more.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2344209]The Albanian girl with the large red and black tattoo on her back (see Flag of Albania.) calls herself "Mirona" now. Before she went to Globe she worked at Sharks under the name Anja.

I sessioned with her last week. It was a very good GFE and well worth it. Not sure why she told you 150/60. With me it was 50 E /30 M, BBBJ and DFK included with no questions asked and no upselling. I guess we just hit it off.[/QUOTE]Who told you Anja worked at Globe? Do You know a bit Globe? Do you really know her? Who worked at Worms and maybe more Bumsalp than Globe, as Tanja. Don't believe all what girls say. Sharks is Sharks, Globe is Globe, not same planet. When girls get business at Globe, they will never return for Sharks business level, Megan never returned. Bumsalp can t compete with Globe for business level, only 1 superstar in Dudendorf. Anja was not so busy on this Saturday, maybe waiting for her jealous small size, but heavy make up. I didn't recognize her at first sight.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2344386]Who told you Anja worked at Globe? Do You know a bit Globe? Do you really know her? Who worked at Worms and maybe more Bumsalp than Globe, as Tanja. Don't believe all what girls say. Sharks is Sharks, Globe is Globe, not same planet. When girls get business at Globe, they will never return for Sharks business level, Megan never returned. Bumsalp can t compete with Globe for business level, only 1 superstar in Dudendorf. Anja was not so busy on this Saturday, maybe waiting for her jealous small size, but heavy make up. I didn't recognize her at first sight.[/QUOTE]No, I do not know Globe. And she has not told me where she worked before. I was just going with the info WorldPeaceNow wrote in his post, that I replied to.

I only know her from last week's session and I can recommend her GFE service on that basis alone. I find her very pretty as did WorldPeaceNow who asked about her in the first place.

So again, the session was truly excellent, especially considering it was for the normal rate. But that is just one guys opinion. Might be different for everybody.

Couldn't agree more. Too many old-timers at Sharks. It is getting boring. Also the number of fake boobs is increasing.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2344117] .... OK, getting back to the point I was making that Sharks is becoming boring because the rate of fresh faces isn't high so not a lot of new girls and I hate to keep turning down some of the existing girls.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2344426]Couldn't agree more. Too many old-timers at Sharks. It is getting boring. Also the number of fake boobs is increasing.[/QUOTE]Always the same girls around for many years, this is the sad reality for many clubs, also a lot of sili, Botox, hair extension, to summarize nothing natural and 0 reason for me to spend 1 euro for those kind of girls.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2344254]Reading the posts in this thread, here and there, we do get slivers of information about certain girls being present or absent, etc. Towards that end:

I visited Sharks on several days spanning late June / early July and I was pleased to see (even more pleased to session with) the following girls who have returned to action after some time absent from the club:

Both Mandy and Marlyn, who were absent from Sharks for several weeks, both came back last week. Both in very good form and (no surprise) quite busy.

Ada with the gorgeous slim figure (my opinion), who had been absent for a couple of years, suddenly returned for the summer solstice and beyond. She used to sit by the fishtank, now moved a few metres away to nest with" the Jessica gang" right in front of the stairs leading to whirlpool deck.

My own take on the general state of the Sharks line up these days: Thumb's Up! During each of my visits, I encountered line ups featuring 60 to 100+ girls (even during the heat wave!) Lots of choices from both long-time, semi-long time and even brand new girls..[/QUOTE]+1.

Actually make it +2. Or +5.

Totally agree with everything you said. I sometimes hide my enthusiasm for Sharks for fear of being accused as a Sharks booster. I have liked various clubs at various points in time in the past, but people don't know that about me as I'm new and anonymous here. But the reality is that Sharks is just awesome and has a huge number of selections. Not sure what the guys can be complaining about. Service quality is quite good when you pick with some care. If I was living in Sharks vicinity, I would definitely not be complaining about life in general.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2344303]I do agree that Sharks is probably better than the others right now but on many of the days I attended during the past 3 months and especially in June I found it to be a sausage fest with all the best girls occupied. I dare say some guys keep the girls in the room for 4, 5 and 6 hours at a time. I do not session only the hottest girls like Sirioja but I avoid the plain Janes who were usually the ones always available.[/QUOTE]I don't know what is plain Janes, I like Sharks for the club: one of the best breakfast, I ate so many times, Blondi is lovely at the bar, I love chalets in the garden, reminds me my beloved mountains, beautiful trees in the garden, swimming pool was not so cold, but no wow chic beauty seen, since June 2018. Analea is not so cute than Amanda Finca, Ada is back, like Albanian Anja, blond long time Cosmina, didn't see new blond Cosmina. Fortunately for me, Nana came to her French friend to start her day, at least a real woman at Sharks and no money talk, but after, marathon around the bar and in the garden whole day, maybe quantity but still average casting for me, only Cristina seduced me with her very charming manners and she is a real woman. I m only attracted by real women. Lack of chic, elegance and charm for me at Sharks.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2344426]Couldn't agree more. Too many old-timers at Sharks. It is getting boring.[/QUOTE]If you don't want to change your attitude, why should the girls do? They are interested in making money. So they want new customers!

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2344426]Also the number of fake boobs is increasing.[/QUOTE]True! Fake boobs are going viral.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2344412]No, I do not know Globe. And she has not told me where she worked before. I was just going with the info WorldPeaceNow wrote in his post, that I replied to.

I only know her from last week's session and I can recommend her GFE service on that basis alone. I find her very pretty as did WorldPeaceNow who asked about her in the first place.

So again, the session was truly excellent, especially considering it was for the normal rate. But that is just one guys opinion. Might be different for everybody.[/QUOTE]Anja can be nice, but I doubt she would be accepted and kept at Globe, and I know a bit about girls care and level at Globe. Bumsalp is much less demanding.

[QUOTE=Nightrider16;2343821]Yes, I did a 1 hour 100 Euro; can't remember her name, if it's the girl I'm thinking of she was sitting on the couches by the stripper pole. Really good session; BBBJ, kissing, multiple positions, no upsell and didn't cheat on the time. Will see her again.[/QUOTE]Thanks but I think its a different girl. She said she only does 30 min /100 euros or 60 min /150 euros and usually sits on the stage (shaped like a circle. Also she only speaks German.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2344209]The Albanian girl with the large red and black tattoo on her back (see Flag of Albania.) calls herself "Mirona" now. Before she went to Globe she worked at Sharks under the name Anja.

I sessioned with her last week. It was a very good GFE and well worth it. Not sure why she told you 150/60. With me it was 50 E /30 M, BBBJ and DFK included with no questions asked and no upselling. I guess we just hit it off.[/QUOTE]I googled the flag of Albania and that's the tattoo on her back! Ok, maybe she said 100 E /60 m but I vividly remember that no GFE (that is no kisses, which matters a lot to me) in 50 E /30 m. I thought that wasn't even an option with her. Maybe I'm confusing her with someone else who quoted those rates. If her service is top class, I don't mind paying 100 E /60 m but not 150/60 or 100/30; I don't like to be the perpetrator of inflation of prices.

Thank you CharlieHarper! And good for you for having her in 50/30.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2344426]Also the number of fake boobs is increasing.[/QUOTE]This got me thinking. What do you guys think is the percentage of fake boobs? I want to say it's over 50% of the girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2344386]Who told you Anja worked at Globe? Do You know a bit Globe? Do you really know her? Who worked at Worms and maybe more Bumsalp than Globe, as Tanja. Don't believe all what girls say. Sharks is Sharks, Globe is Globe, not same planet. When girls get business at Globe, they will never return for Sharks business level, Megan never returned. Bumsalp can t compete with Globe for business level, only 1 superstar in Dudendorf. Anja was not so busy on this Saturday, maybe waiting for her jealous small size, but heavy make up. I didn't recognize her at first sight.[/QUOTE]Siri,

I think it should be said that Globe is also very stressful for girls and it's full of ridiculous rules. I've actually had the best sessions at Sharks so far. Globe does not work for every monger and definitely not for me lately. It has a werid layout and, if you are not a regular, it can be very hard to get hold of top girls. Bumsalp is awful (I can't believe I wasted money for getting in! With food smell all over the bar area and ridiculous, cheap wellness facilities.

Anyway, I'm happy Anja is back and I will try to session with her next week and I will be in Frankfurt again!

Rock.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2344759]Siri,

I think it should be said that Globe is also very stressful for girls and it's full of ridiculous rules. I've actually had the best sessions at Sharks so far. Globe does not work for every monger and definitely not for me lately. It has a werid layout and, if you are not a regular, it can be very hard to get hold of top girls. Bumsalp is awful (I can't believe I wasted money for getting in! With food smell all over the bar area and ridiculous, cheap wellness facilities.

Anyway, I'm happy Anja is back and I will try to session with her next week and I will be in Frankfurt again!

Rock.[/QUOTE]Some girls who worked at Sharks like Katalina, Aurelia, Megan, Larissa, worked since years at Globe and I never heard any of them telling me they wanted to return to Sharks. Usually, girls who leave Globe is because they can't stay, or because they don't get business. When they can make 1000 in 4 hours, with CIM for 100 , with some guys who book girls for hours, how can you think these girls can be interested by everything for 50 € ? Most of WGs are not so clever, but they know how to count money. At Globe like in any other club, even when they are busy superstars like Katalina, girls who know me come to me, because I know how you treat me, as says Katalina, or like Nana at Sharks, I don't need to run for girls who know me. We receive from what we are.

Anja's Service is at the level of Esther for me. Not super great but but not bad either. I have been in the room approximately ten times with each of them over the years. They have been a mix of half hour and full hour sessions. Because they have known me for a while, there has not been any huge difference in service levels whether I took them for 30 M or for an hour. I would characterize the service as not truly GFE, at least not at the level I have gotten from my best girls. But they were definitely good providers, other wise I would not have taken them for that many sessions over the years.

Also, their optics were really appealing 3 years ago. That is something to keep in mind. Age takes a toll on everyone, and the FKK business is not easy for all girls when it comes to maintaining body and face fresh and young.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2344525]This got me thinking. What do you guys think is the percentage of fake boobs? I want to say it's over 50% of the girls.[/QUOTE]Its psychological. Fake boobs attract a lot of attention resulting in thought processes allotting a greater number than the actual amount. From my experience in terms of all the girls at Sharks I think its closer to 20%.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2344837]Some girls who worked at Sharks like Katalina, Aurelia, Megan, Larissa, worked since years at Globe and I never heard any of them telling me they wanted to return to Sharks. Usually, girls who leave Globe is because they can't stay, or because they don't get business. When they can make 1000 in 4 hours, with CIM for 100 , with some guys who book girls for hours, how can you think these girls can be interested by everything for 50 ? Most of WGs are not so clever, but they know how to count money. At Globe like in any other club, even when they are busy superstars like Katalina, girls who know me come to me, because I know how you treat me, as says Katalina, or like Nana at Sharks, I don't need to run for girls who know me. We receive from what we are.[/QUOTE]Globe girls look no better than Sharks.

Take Aurelia (former Sharks girl) she is at best a 7.5.

I'm sure you can find 7. 5 at any FKK for 50 e, 30 minutes or 100 e for an hour.

Globe is an isolated Club in Switzerland.

Not too many selection in Switzerland.

Half of all the Clubs in Switzerland is owned by the same Owner, Empire Group.

Club-Swiss, Club Palace, Club Pascha, and several more advertised on the bottom links on the globe web site.

It's Pure Monopoly and he sets the Price, Police, Rules, and Regulations for entire Swiss Country.

A Swiss punter has to drive drive 4 hours to Frankfurt (Hessen region) where there are 5 to 7 FKK Clubs or stay in miserable Zurich.

In Zurich, you have to drive 50 km to 80 km on the Banh otherwise the Video Cameras automated system tickets you a speeding ticket for 100 e.

So the Swiss punters are trapped under the Empire Regime. They have no choice. Who wants to drive 8 hours round trip to go to Frankfurt?

This is why these Lousy girls are able to charge 3 times the price of Germany FKK.

You will be highly disappointed at Globe.

It's like going to Las Vegas and paying 10 x the price at a Strip Club when you can be in Dallas, Tx and pay 250 a session.
Any blogger that says anything positive about Zurich is lying and getting kickback from Owner.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2345029]Anja's Service is at the level of Esther for me. Not super great but but not bad either. I have been in the room approximately ten times with each of them over the years. They have been a mix of half hour and full hour sessions. Because they have known me for a while, there has not been any huge difference in service levels whether I took them for 30 M or for an hour. I would characterize the service as not truly GFE, at least not at the level I have gotten from my best girls. But they were definitely good providers, other wise I would not have taken them for that many sessions over the years.

Also, their optics were really appealing 3 years ago. That is something to keep in mind. Age takes a toll on everyone, and the FKK business is not easy for all girls when it comes to maintaining body and face fresh and young.[/QUOTE]Never repeated with Ester even she is friendly, 2 or 3 rooms with Anja on 2016/2017, when they both had more natural look, and I agree: not what I call high GFE level. Now I prefer to joke when I see Anja.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2345197]Globe girls look no better than Sharks.

Take Aurelia (former Sharks girl) she is at best a 7.5.

I'm sure you can find 7. 5 at any FKK for 50 e, 30 minutes or 100 e for an hour.

Globe is an isolated Club in Switzerland.

Not too many selection in Switzerland.

Half of all the Clubs in Switzerland is owned by the same Owner, Empire Group.

Club-Swiss, Club Palace, Club Pascha, and several more advertised on the bottom links on the globe web site.

It's Pure Monopoly and he sets the Price, Police, Rules, and Regulations for entire Swiss Country.

A Swiss punter has to drive drive 4 hours to Frankfurt (Hessen region) where there are 5 to 7 FKK Clubs or stay in miserable Zurich.[/QUOTE]I'm not Swiss, I hate now Swiss administration which put me in jail like a criminal when they had no proof I was the driver, and I will never pay 2000 CHF when they stole my coyote, but my eyes prefer Globe girls than at Sharks, and I enjoy more level in bed at Globe than in Germany. Only LR on 2017 could compete for me. I prefer to pay 260 and dream, than 50 for a GND.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2345197]Globe girls look no better than Sharks.

Take Aurelia (former Sharks girl) she is at best a 7.5.

I'm sure you can find 7. 5 at any FKK for 50 e, 30 minutes or 100 e for an hour.

Globe is an isolated Club in Switzerland.

Not too many selection in Switzerland.

Half of all the Clubs in Switzerland is owned by the same Owner, Empire Group.

Club-Swiss, Club Palace, Club Pascha, and several more advertised on the bottom links on the globe web site.

It's Pure Monopoly and he sets the Price, Police, Rules, and Regulations for entire Swiss Country..[/QUOTE]No Megan look level seen on this Saturday, unfortunately at Sharks.

Globe, Aphrodisia, Swiss, Bumsalp, Rouge and few other clubs around Zurich, Westside not more far than World from Frankfurt. Swiss immigration don t have to worry, as I told: Swiss and Zurich are too small place for me and I don t need their business, I prefer mine, but Zurich is the best level in FKK land for beauties and love in bed. Nevertheless, I was happy to see Nana returning to her French friend as soon she saw me at Sharks, she didn't forget our love in bed, I don t forget Oase garden.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2345197]Globe girls look no better than Sharks.

Take Aurelia (former Sharks girl) she is at best a 7.5.

I'm sure you can find 7. 5 at any FKK for 50 e, 30 minutes or 100 e for an hour.

Globe is an isolated Club in Switzerland.

Not too many selection in Switzerland.

Half of all the Clubs in Switzerland is owned by the same Owner, Empire Group.

Club-Swiss, Club Palace, Club Pascha, and several more advertised on the bottom links on the globe web site.

It's Pure Monopoly and he sets the Price, Police, Rules, and Regulations for entire Swiss Country.

A Swiss punter has to drive drive 4 hours to Frankfurt (Hessen region) where there are 5 to 7 FKK Clubs or stay in miserable Zurich.

In Zurich, you have to drive 50 km to 80 km on the Banh otherwise the Video Cameras automated system tickets you a speeding ticket for 100 e.

So the Swiss punters are trapped under the Empire Regime. They have no choice. Who wants to drive 8 hours round trip to go to Frankfurt?

This is why these Lousy girls are able to charge 3 times the price of Germany FKK.

You will be highly disappointed at Globe.

It's like going to Las Vegas and paying 10 x the price at a Strip Club when you can be in Dallas, Tx and pay 250 a session.
Any blogger that says anything positive about Zurich is lying and getting kickback from Owner.[/QUOTE]I would like to disagree. First in my eyes I find more attractive girls at Globe than at Sharks. But that's a personal opinion. What you write about the "Imperium" is only half true. The "Imperium"-chain is quite big for Switzerland, but its mainly around Zurich. With one club in Basel, one in Frauenfeld and soon one near St. Gallen. But there is another chain of clubs in Zurich. The "Life"-chain around Club Life and Club Aphrodisia. Also there are lots of small clubs in Switzerland. Even in Zurich there is a RLD where the "Imperium" is not present. Also the "Imperium" is not present in the french- or italian-speaking part of Switzerland or around the capital, Bern. So there is no monopoly. And the prices at the "Imperium"-chain are cheaper than the prices of the "Life"-chain too. So that would be a strange monopoly which offers cheaper prices than his opponents. Sure he was the first with FKK-clubs in Switzerland, with strict rules for the girls, that gave him an edge he used to earn quite some money and Globe is still better than other clubs like Bumsalp in many aspects.

Speed tickets are universal wether in Germany or Switzerland. Sure they are more expensive in Switzerland, but what is not more expensive in Switzerland? I would say you don't know Switzerland / Zurich well. In Switzerland you pay more than in other countries, sure, but you get good quality! And that is true for Globe, not in the facilities but in the service of the girls. There is almost a guaranty for a good time (if there are not too many other punters around so you are left with the less attractive girls). In Germany many girls started to demand 100 for half an hour and you HAVE to first negotiate about price / services. And if you are not good at negotiating or she is a girl in high demand you may end up to pay the same price in Germany for less service. I also had quite some bad rooms in Germany. In Switzerland maybe one.

BTW Club Globe has sister clubs like Club Westside (Frauenfeld) or Club Swiss (Dietikon) which are cheaper than Club Globe.

As a conclusion, clubs in Switzerland are more expensive than the clubs in Germany, that is true, but what girls you find at the clubs and what service you get differs. I like both options. Sharks is big with lots of girls and there are girls with good service for normal price but you have to find them. Globe is more rewarding in my eyes but you have to invest time and money to know the best girls there and maybe build a connection to them. Locals have it a lot easier because of the reservation-system. So for a one-time-visit (especially just in the evening) you have a big disadvantage and Sharks maybe better for you. But if you are looking for better girls at higher prices Switzerland is generally better in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2342797]In Spain there are also a lot of Romanian girls like in the FKK, most of the prostitutes in europe are from Romania, they are increasing prices and decreasing service, even in Shark it is more and more difficult to find new comers in the P6 scene, young and fresh, mostly veteran girls around switching from escort in Italy or London to clubs in Spain to FKK and brothels. I am only looking for top beauties, no sili, hair extensions, Botox, latches. I got some great experiences recently in China and Vietnam with none pro girls really into having great sex.[/QUOTE]Yes, a lot of Romanian, Russian and especially Latina girls.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2345219]Never repeated with Ester even she is friendly, 2 or 3 rooms with Anja on 2016/2017, when they both had more natural look, and I agree: not what I call high GFE level. Now I prefer to joke when I see Anja.[/QUOTE]This year Esther appears to be losing her optics. Still vigorously hunts Asians which makes me assume her service to be not up to my standards.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2345494]This year Esther appears to be losing her optics. Still vigorously hunts Asians which makes me assume her service to be not up to my standards.[/QUOTE]I agree. Plus she gets mad if you did not pick her after one or two days.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2345197]Any blogger that says anything positive about Zurich is lying and getting kickback from Owner.[/QUOTE]That is BS. Sharks is bigger, there are more girls available. I understand that tourists are disappointed when they get to Globe Saturday at midnight and have limited choice. Lineup was better 4-5 years ago and there were 65 girls on a weekend day instead 0 f 50. The owner gradually reduced the number of girls per day because he has less clients than before.

Maybe it's debatable where the 5 most beautiful girls are on any given day. However, I hate all the haggling in Germany.

Everything is more expensive in Switzerland because income is higher and taxes are low.

Now I am off to get my coupon from Ingo for 5 hours in VIP with complimentary champagne.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2345197]Globe girls look no better than Sharks.

Take Aurelia (former Sharks girl) she is at best a 7.5.[/QUOTE]Aurelia is far from being a top girl in Globe. She only gets business late in the evening.

This was my first visit to Sharks. Raining so entire outdoor was pretty much closed although you could go out there nobody was there. I got in at 5 PM and cruised around. Grabbed a water at the bar as I was parched. I had a couple of girls come up to me and ask if I was Chinese or Japanese. Politely told them I just got here and needed to settle in. One of the girls was so friendly and charming. A Romanian girl named Melania or something like that. I thought she may be an Asian Hunter as she noted she spoke Chinese and Japanese from working in the club. However, her rates were full GFE 100 e /60 m. She has glasses and a very cute GND face. From the waste up she is just my type but the waste down she has a bit too much junk in the trunk and it sags. Not ugly by any stretch just would rate her a 7.

I went upstairs to finish my water. There were 2 guys up on the couch and some in the jacuzzis. No girls so I got to sit at a chaise lounge and watch the club for a bit. Then I decided it was time to partake.

Room 1: Malenia.

As I was strolling around, Malenia caught me again and we started chatting up again. She is so friendly I decided to go to a room with her. Great GFE. DFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, MSOG. She probably would have CIM for that rate but I finished in condom. And we still had time so we tried to go again. Doggie, Mish, etc. I couldn't finish so she tried to finish me with her mouth and her hand. Until I stopped her so we could just chat some more without the stress. If only she were hotter she would have been great.

Room 2: forgot name. I think Letty or something. 20 yo Romanian.

She was slim and extremely cute. Looked so young and delicious I asked for GFE. She has a beautiful face with long wavy hair. Looks 19-20 years old. Quoted 100 e /30 m. LK only. She did CBJ even though I protested and she held the condom and controlled how far I could go in while riding me and while in doggie. Probably a 8-9 in looks and a 3-4 in service. Would not repeat. She is shy and just hangs out near the bar. She actually stated after she hates this and is just doing it until October and then is going to go to beauty school. I actually met a really cool guy and he told me she looked like a fantasy of his and he tried her the night previously and she stank. I laughed and said I did her tonight and did the same mistake.

Room 3: Leticia. Moldavian.

Tall, black hair. Very slim. Works with another Moldavian girl named Bella. Offered me a threesome but I didn't do it. Now I'm sort of kicking myself because Leticia was so good. 100 e /30 m full GFE. DFK was great. BBBJ was a bit aggressive but decent. View from doggie was divine. I love slim women. Mish with lots of DFK all throughout. She got into it. She mentioned my cock was big (which it's not, I'm very average) twice and I told her I know it's average and she said it was very strong. Either way, she is good at stroking the ego and making you feel like a king. Well worth it. I'd say she is a 9-9. 5. Gave her a 10 e tip.

Room 4: Micky from Milan (Italian).

This girl could be a model. She showed me her photo shoots from the club. Face is stunning. Body is stunning. She is a 10. She claimed she didn't look as good that night since she didn't have her extensions in. Dyed blond with dark eyes. Full natural perky tits. Great pussy I was tired as shit and had 100 e left that I didn't want to have to convert into USD since I'm flying home tomorrow. So I went up to her and said look I am leaving but I have 100 e that I need to spend. Full GFE 60 m. She countered with 30 m. I said sure.

We went to the room all the way to the back after the little stage with the pole. The one with all the mirrors. DFK in the room. BBBJ was the best of the night. Slow and erotic which was the way it needed to be with the energy I had left. She grabbed my hand and lead me to her pussy where I fingered her while she blew me. Loved all the angles in the mirror. Still etched in my mind and getting excited remembering it. Payed attention to the boys, the shaft, good mix between head play, tongue flick, and deep throat.

More DFK. Fingering her from behind. Then doggie. Surprisingly I didn't last beyond doggie. We went hard and with all of the other rooms I did I thought I would last longer but fuck me she was hot with her moans, her dirty talk, and seeing her looking at me and licking her lips in the mirrors. I only lasted 20 m so we cuddled and she showed me her photo shoots. Looks familiar. She may be a model. I think I've seen her pics before.

It was now 2 AM and I was way too tired to deal with getting back to Frankfurt. I just paid a cab 60 e to drive me to my hotel. Successful first visit. I'm very happy with Sharks.

Good line up, I didn't get "Asian hunted" and assaulted. Maybe because of the slower night although it picked up a bit at about midnight. Atmosphere was pretty relaxed and not a lot of crazy upselling and trying to rip me off.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2346072]This was my first visit to Sharks. Raining so entire outdoor was pretty much closed although you could go out there nobody was there. I got in at 5 PM and cruised around. Grabbed a water at the bar as I was parched. I had a couple of girls come up to me and ask if I was Chinese or Japanese. Politely told them I just got here and needed to settle in. One of the girls was so friendly and charming. A Romanian girl named Melania or something like that. I thought she may be an Asian Hunter as she noted she spoke Chinese and Japanese from working in the club. However, her rates were full GFE 100 e /60 m. She has glasses and a very cute GND face. From the waste up she is just my type but the waste down she has a bit too much junk in the trunk and it sags. Not ugly by any stretch just would rate her a 7.

I went upstairs to finish my water. There were 2 guys up on the couch and some in the jacuzzis. No girls so I got to sit at a chaise lounge and watch the club for a bit. Then I decided it was time to partake.

Room 1: Malenia.

As I was strolling around, Malenia caught me again and we started chatting up again. She is so friendly I decided to go to a room with her. Great GFE. DFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, MSOG. She probably would have CIM for that rate but I finished in condom. And we still had time so we tried to go again. Doggie, Mish, etc. I couldn't finish so she tried to finish me with her mouth and her hand. Until I stopped her so we could just chat some more without the stress. If only she were hotter she would have been great.

Room 2: forgot name. I think Letty or something. 20 yo Romanian..[/QUOTE]Melanie is one of the veteran girl in Shark, well know to be a terrible Asian hunter and a no go for me even for free, just a waste of time and money you can also forget her friend Emma. I wrote several times that there is no reason to go with those girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2345494]This year Esther appears to be losing her optics. Still vigorously hunts Asians which makes me assume her service to be not up to my standards.[/QUOTE]Never repeated because no dream for our room, even not bad, on end of 2015 when she arrived, but many high level girls at this time, like Karolina. Pol, Agnes. Pol, Melani was also great GFE on her arrival from Finca on end of 2015, then model Megan of course for me, sophisticated beauty Karin and legendary Katalina I followed at Globe and advised Megan who seems happy about her new business, but always friendly behavior from Ester with me. I let Asian hunters to their business, not same size to feel inside. Usually, woman types, like Nana or Cristina on my last visit, come to me, this in any club I visit. I prefer woman types for look and behavior.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2346072]This was my first visit to Sharks. Raining so entire outdoor was pretty much closed although you could go out there nobody was there. I got in at 5 PM and cruised around. Grabbed a water at the bar as I was parched. I had a couple of girls come up to me and ask if I was Chinese or Japanese. Politely told them I just got here and needed to settle in. One of the girls was so friendly and charming. A Romanian girl named Melania or something like that. I thought she may be an Asian Hunter as she noted she spoke Chinese and Japanese from working in the club. However, her rates were full GFE 100 e /60 m. She has glasses and a very cute GND face. From the waste up she is just my type but the waste down she has a bit too much junk in the trunk and it sags. Not ugly by any stretch just would rate her a 7.

I went upstairs to finish my water. There were 2 guys up on the couch and some in the jacuzzis. No girls so I got to sit at a chaise lounge and watch the club for a bit. Then I decided it was time to partake.

Room 1: Malenia..[/QUOTE]Should be Melani for your first. CIM is 50 extra, when girls are not thirsty. Energetic drink, like cyprine for us.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2345757]That is BS. Sharks is bigger, there are more girls available. I understand that tourists are disappointed when they get to Globe Saturday at midnight and have limited choice. Lineup was better 4-5 years ago and there were 65 girls on a weekend day instead 0 f 50. The owner gradually reduced the number of girls per day because he has less clients than before.

Maybe it's debatable where the 5 most beautiful girls are on any given day. However, I hate all the haggling in Germany.

Everything is more expensive in Switzerland because income is higher and taxes are low.

Now I am off to get my coupon from Ingo for 5 hours in VIP with complimentary champagne.[/QUOTE]Sharks is better for club, with better rooms, beautiful garden, but even less girls, but 50 girls are enough for me, level of looks is far higher level at Globe, more chic, more elegance, more charm. No more Kate, no new Megan, no Trisha, no Joana, at Sharks, unfortunately. Even many girls, but really difficult for me to find a attractive one, walking miles around the club, no wow seen since June 2018 . Only good point is no upselling with Nana and Cristina, my 2 woman types on my last visit, 100 € for 1 very full hour. Since already at Oase, Nana is really honest with her french friend. Only bad points for Globe are average rooms, no good outside area, only small terrace, and public sex which is killing desire for me. Even Kate took her client to room when she saw me, but she was not anymore attractive for me, when she is what I love for a woman when I'm with her, and I should have been happy about her reaction for me, because she knows I hate this. Of course, also Swiss administration robbers to avoid. Globe small brothers have girls for 89 CHF = 80€ at History Basel Liestal where Ada worked on end of 2016, but I had beauties Lorena, Andrea, and Mady there. Mady is now at Oase. Same at Swiss Dietikon where had great Simona. No upselling, not even extra for anal games when girl is really turned on, this happen also in Germany.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2346072]This was my first visit to Sharks. Raining so entire outdoor was pretty much closed although you could go out there nobody was there. I got in at 5 PM and cruised around. Grabbed a water at the bar as I was parched. I had a couple of girls come up to me and ask if I was Chinese or Japanese. Politely told them I just got here and needed to settle in. One of the girls was so friendly and charming. A Romanian girl named Melania or something like that. I thought she may be an Asian Hunter as she noted she spoke Chinese and Japanese from working in the club. However, her rates were full GFE 100 e /60 m. She has glasses and a very cute GND face. From the waste up she is just my type but the waste down she has a bit too much junk in the trunk and it sags. Not ugly by any stretch just would rate her a 7.

I went upstairs to finish my water. There were 2 guys up on the couch and some in the jacuzzis. No girls so I got to sit at a chaise lounge and watch the club for a bit. Then I decided it was time to partake.

Room 1: Malenia.

As I was strolling around, Malenia caught me again and we started chatting up again. She is so friendly I decided to go to a room with her. Great GFE. DFK, BBBJ, 69, DATY, MSOG. She probably would have CIM for that rate but I finished in condom. And we still had time so we tried to go again. Doggie, Mish, etc. I couldn't finish so she tried to finish me with her mouth and her hand. Until I stopped her so we could just chat some more without the stress. If only she were hotter she would have been great...[/QUOTE]Hi LV,

Good report and it sounds like you had a good time. That is all that matters. That said, if I understand you correctly, you paid 100 for just 30 minutes in 3 of your 4 sessions and perhaps all of them? And the second girl provided CBJ in even the 100 E30 M session? Pardon me for saying so, but you could have done better. I have never paid 100 E for 30 M in any FKK ever, do not intend to do so unless the prices are officially changed, and I manage to obtain good services including BBBJ and reasonably good GFE in even the 50 E sessions. It does not appear this was your first time in a club. Not sure why you happily and intentionally gave up such amounts.

Thanks for sharing the report.

I guess my complaints. And several others here too, regarding a stagnating line-up might have helped. Last Thursday I spotted at least 10 new girls.

I liked and sessioned with:

* Charlie (Charlene). A german-born MILF of marrocian heritage, tall, 177 cm, quite busty, with a super "D" cup. All natural, perfectly shape bust. Clear repeat.

* Millie, german born mid-twenties, of greek heritage, cesarian nose, nice "C" cup, natural tits.

I did not like at all:

* german Bella, blond, with 88 kg too fat. Bad attitude, and full of up-selling manners.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346123]Melanie is one of the veteran girl in Shark, well know to be a terrible Asian hunter and a no go for me even for free, just a waste of time and money you can also forget her friend Emma. I wrote several times that there is no reason to go with those girls.[/QUOTE]But he is Asian and seemed to enjoy with her. When she arrived, with white snow look and no glasses, she was a super GFE, I returned for her on next week end, nearly 4 years ago.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2346356]But he is Asian and seemed to enjoy with her. When she arrived, with white snow look and no glasses, she was a super GFE, I returned for her on next week end, nearly 4 years ago.[/QUOTE]As you say 4 years ago at the meantime probably 12000+ guys fucked her, for me at least a veteran girl no worth to spend 1 euro or 1 minute with her.

Room 2: forgot name. I think Letty or something. 20 yo Romanian.

She was slim and extremely cute. Looked so young and delicious I asked for GFE. She has a beautiful face with long wavy hair. Looks 19-20 years old. Quoted 100 e /30 m. LK only. She did CBJ even though I protested and she held the condom and controlled how far I could go in while riding me and while in doggie. Probably a 8-9 in looks and a 3-4 in service. Would not repeat. She is shy and just hangs out near the bar. She actually stated after she hates this and is just doing it until October and then is going to go to beauty school. I actually met a really cool guy and he told me she looked like a fantasy of his and he tried her the night previously and she stank. I laughed and said I did her tonight and did the same mistake.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346420]As you say 4 years ago at the meantime probably 12000+ guys fucked her, for me at least a veteran girl no worth to spend 1 euro or 1 minute with her.[/QUOTE]Some new girls in business don t worth anything and seem old in business after few days, when some girls who are since long time in business are still fresh in mind, behavior and for sex. I remember Alyssa. Ro at LR, who worked for years before in fuck factory GT, I missed her at GT, but what a lovely and so sweet woman at LR, and the most exceptional for me: When I returned after my holidays when I had exceptional Lena. Ro at Wellcum. At, when my ex really did welcome me in exceptional way and then I returned to her, when I went to Alyssa to say to her I was really sorry, she answered: I understand when I see You, I know she was disappointed but a real great behavior, when Daria couldn't control in same way on few times. I also met 2 ex GT Vienna, working there for years, girls and found them really fresh in mind with me. One, Romanian didn't look at me on first time I noticed her, but she smiled to anybody else, so on next day, I tested her, going with the other ex GT Vienna just in front of her, and I understood when I saw her reaction. 2 hours later, I went to her, she smiled a lot, passionate in bed, we took appointment for 2 hours later, she apologized because she was 25 mn late. On next week, she went to kiss me when I was paying entry on desk, but became jealous about the other ex GT Vienna, when they know each other. Even long time in business, but some can still react, when some are just robot after few days. But girls also behave from what we are with them.

Hi,

It is my first post here. I visited shark on Wednesday and had a brief talk with a girl named Ellis (or Eliz, Iles.). Short blonde hair with glasses, most of the time sitting at the bar and sometimes wandering around. I didn't have time to have a session with her at that day but would like to in the future. And since I have a hard time finding a report about this girl on this forum would anyone that has had a session with her tell me how is her service? Really appreciate you guys for your help!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2346179]............. but always friendly behavior from Ester with me. I let Asian hunters to their business, not same size to feel inside.................[/QUOTE]The very first time I saw Esther some years ago she was heading in my direction and I looked at her and she zoomed past me to talk to an Asian who was nearby. That soured my view of her from day 1.

On another note does anyone know if the management at Sharks speaks to the girls requesting them not to upsell? For the past 3 months this visit I have had close to zero upselling from Sharks girls which is in marked contrast to the other regional clubs. I got much less upselling from Sharks girls than I had expected. Kudos to Sharks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2346729]The very first time I saw Esther some years ago she was heading in my direction and I looked at her and she zoomed past me to talk to an Asian who was nearby. That soured my view of her from day 1.

On another note does anyone know if the management at Sharks speaks to the girls requesting them not to upsell? For the past 3 months this visit I have had close to zero upselling from Sharks girls which is in marked contrast to the other regional clubs. I got much less upselling from Sharks girls than I had expected. Kudos to Sharks.[/QUOTE]I think girls are very free at Sharks, staff just take their entry 105 and 20 to sleep. If 150 girls without the faintest selection, 15000 per day. Business usually seem quite slow since months on my visits, even on Friday evening, so girls need to get business. When we are not Asian, we know best girls don't upsell, they prefer to make regulars. No upselling with Nana, Cristina, Mandi. Grocer girls kill my desire, when I had more than 30 rooms, all for more than 1 hour, with Megan only at Sharks, after Mainhattan. With my Eve at LR, had 20 hours per month, she never spoke about money.

[QUOTE=OldFashioned;2346611]Hi,

It is my first post here. I visited shark on Wednesday and had a brief talk with a girl named Ellis (or Eliz, Iles.). Short blonde hair with glasses, most of the time sitting at the bar and sometimes wandering around. I didn't have time to have a session with her at that day but would like to in the future. And since I have a hard time finding a report about this girl on this forum would anyone that has had a session with her tell me how is her service? Really appreciate you guys for your help![/QUOTE]Is this the Marilyn Monroe lookalike Ellis, formerly known as Alice? Slim, A cups with cute face and s nice thin gazelle shaped ass. Last I heard she left the FKK scene in early 2017. But if she is back that is fantastic news.

At Oldfashioned. If you do a regular search under the "Germany - FKK Clubs" instead of the sublevel "FKK Sharks - Darmstadt" with keyword "Ellis" you will retrieve a lot of info with respect to her.

Fuck only wish I was there now. Can anyone 'on the ground' ask how long she will be at Sharks for? Unfortunately, I won't be in Sharks until mid-August at the earliest and would love to see her again. Only hope she stays beyond those dates.

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;2346799]Is this the Marilyn Monroe lookalike Ellis, formerly known as Alice? Slim, A cups with cute face and s nice thin gazelle shaped ass. Last I heard she left the FKK scene in early 2017. But if she is back that is fantastic news.

At Oldfashioned. If you do a regular search under the "Germany - FKK Clubs" instead of the sublevel "FKK Sharks - Darmstadt" with keyword "Ellis" you will retrieve a lot of info with respect to her.

Fuck only wish I was there now. Can anyone 'on the ground' ask how long she will be at Sharks for? Unfortunately, I won't be in Sharks until mid-August at the earliest and would love to see her again. Only hope she stays beyond those dates.

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]Elli, Marilyn look, not seen since long time. Long time Cosmina is back.

[QUOTE=OldFashioned;2346611]Hi,

It is my first post here. I visited shark on Wednesday and had a brief talk with a girl named Ellis (or Eliz, Iles.). Short blonde hair with glasses, most of the time sitting at the bar and sometimes wandering around. I didn't have time to have a session with her at that day but would like to in the future. And since I have a hard time finding a report about this girl on this forum would anyone that has had a session with her tell me how is her service? Really appreciate you guys for your help![/QUOTE]Sounds like Iris. I have spoken to her a couple of times but never had any sessions. Rumours says she gives excellent service.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2343946] Prettiest face for me is Elena with wonderful eyes, but I m afraid for silicon and always hidden under towel.[/QUOTE]Who do you mean here? Elena with tattoo on side of stomach and friend with Denisa and Esther? Read on german forum that Vivian is back. Good as I am visiting soon.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2346821]Who do you mean here? Elena with tattoo on side of stomach and friend with Denisa and Esther? Read on german forum that Vivian is back. Good as I am visiting soon.[/QUOTE]Elena sitting under fish, with beautiful eyes and smile.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2346753]No upselling with Nana, Cristina, Mandi[/QUOTE]On the couches by the far end facing the stairs to the upper portion with the Jacuzzi and resting area? She is about 5'4" without heels and natural be or bb cup. I think long hair brunette. Could be wrong.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2346886]On the couches by the far end facing the stairs to the upper portion with the Jacuzzi and resting area? She is about 5'4" without heels and natural be or bb cup. I think long hair brunette. Could be wrong.[/QUOTE]My Cristina is 28 yo, mum, a bit chic face, sitting at the bar. Beautiful smile, a bit of sensuality when she caressed my hand when we chat at the bar, not a robot little girl. Different among Sharks casting, like Nana who is 29/30 yo fireworks. My 2 girls on my last visit, a repeat with Nana but I preferred at Oase, more enjoyable in the garden.

[QUOTE=OldFashioned;2346611]Hi,

It is my first post here. I visited shark on Wednesday and had a brief talk with a girl named Ellis (or Eliz, Iles.). Short blonde hair with glasses, most of the time sitting at the bar and sometimes wandering around. I didn't have time to have a session with her at that day but would like to in the future. And since I have a hard time finding a report about this girl on this forum would anyone that has had a session with her tell me how is her service? Really appreciate you guys for your help![/QUOTE]For me it is useless, session her, make your own opinion, chemistry between the people is the key for a great session, not the reports from others.

[QUOTE=OldFashioned;2346611]Hi, It is my first post here. I visited shark on Wednesday and had a brief talk with a girl named Ellis (or Eliz, Iles.). Short blonde hair with glasses, most of the time sitting at the bar and sometimes wandering around. I didn't have time to have a session with her at that day but would like to in the future. And since I have a hard time finding a report about this girl on this forum would anyone that has had a session with her tell me how is her service? Really appreciate you guys for your help![/QUOTE]Most probably Iris. She has been away for some time and returned recently with her boobs enhanced. Those who have been with her say: excellent service!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346948]For me it is useless, session her, make your own opinion, chemistry between the people is the key for a great session, not the reports from others.[/QUOTE]I agree, I don't care about others experiences, because I know girls behave from what we are and as says Lucifer. De: only you do this, or some others: do you do the same with other girls?

Sharks also had depleted numbers due to Orthodox Easter. Were perhaps 40 girls but as has generally been the case the past couple of years, the standard was much higher than Oase and it consistently has the best line-up of the 3 clubs I visit.

Ester:- One of the most naturally beautiful girls I've seen in FKK Land both facially and body wise is Ester and she usually greets me by sitting on my lap and catching up for 15 minutes and which usually ends up with me getting hard and having a threesome with her and one of her friends! Unfortunately Ester has had a boob job and lip fillers and her hair gets blonder each time I see her so she now has a generic FKK girl look about her (albeit still at the higher end) whereas the attraction was her all-natural looks. Nevertheless still decided to go with her which made it the 9th time which now takes her to my most frequented FKK girl above the incomparable Fidan from Oase circa 2012-2015.

This time she didn't have any of her friends around so had a one-on-one for an hour. She does give great head as she is motivated by the CIM extra and after that she asked whether I wanted to move to a 69 as I do love eating her out her lovely pussy. This time I asked her so on my face whilst I feasted on her with my hands all over her whilst my tongue and mouth got to work. I got her off and after a little rest it was her turn to return the favour which she did through her excellent oral skills. E150.

Seli:- Over the years I have developed eclectic tastes in women quite possibly due to my whoring habits, I like to try out different colours, ages, shapes and sizes though I don't stray too far from the conventional. But my ideal woman from when I was young has been classically beautiful, olive skinned brunettes with slim to medium figures and nice natural tits. I noticed such a girl last time but she was busy, however on this occasion she was available.

Seli usually sits with a towel wrapped around her by the bar near the canteen side. She claimed to be Turkish and seemed pleasant enough but said she doesn't go for E50 and charges E100 for 30 minutes. As she fitted the bill of my ideal woman looks wise, I agreed and said E100 for 30 minutes but if I wanted to upgrade to an hour it would be E150. She was happy with this but said if I was amazed by her performance she would ask me for E200 for 60 minutes.

This was one of the most thrilling sessions I have ever had. Perfect GFE with some pornstar style flourishes. It was almost as though she could read my mind and desires. Wonderful kissing, teasing, foreplay, she is also exceptionally skilled in the art of fellatio. I also enjoyed reciprocating the favour and had her writhing with an orgasm and then enjoyed a couple of positions before moving back to her wonderful blow job which is how I finished. I was completely in love for an hour and was tingling all over after the session and even two months later it's still making me smile.

I do have a FKK Hall of Fame comprising 15 girls who are both beautiful and provide exceptional service. There have been no new entrants for perhaps 2 years and most of them are no longer around but Seli enters the HOF and is in my Top 5 of FKK girls and I've had over 180! In short she is creme a la creme.

At the locker she had a glint in her eye and a smile when asking if I thought she was worth E200. She knew the answer and it was richly deserved. I do hope she's around next time I'm in town.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347239]n her eye and a smile when asking if I thought she was worth E200. She knew the answer and it was richly deserved. I do hope she's around next time I'm in town.[/QUOTE]I've enjoyed reading your reports in all three threads. Seli sounds a performer. My only negative is the willingness to go to £200 for an hour. It sets a horribly dangerous precedent.

From my nickname on ISG you'll see I'm in the same camp as Craiova who recently reported (correctly in my view) that guys who expect the earth for E50/30 are just unrealistic. I know that is what it was. But it's not now. Truth is in most other P6 destinations (Thailand and other Far East destinations excluded. And I have zero experience in South America) E150 or 200 is the norm. In some placed more. My favourite club in Spain is Vive in Madrid. Now E240/ hour. So why then would I complain about E200 for 60? Because it bucks the market. I am in the camp of "let's start with E100/60. If the service is excellent I'm likely to stay". Girls in several of the clubs know I'll stay 3 hours in the room sometimes, with some extras and can therefore spend over E400 in one session. I therefore have no problems usually in extracting E100/60 with BBBJ, DFK, DATY all included. But when guys start paying E200/60, even for great service, it just raises the bar. Seli will tell others she just made a good 200 in an hour. The others will want some of that. And so it continues.

I'm also not against tipping though a lot of guys dislike it. But my "tip" is usually to extend time beyond what the girl expected. Even if the chemistry is there to taking a jacuzzi together after the session to wind down, and agreeing to pay for the company. But an outright move to E200/60 runs a real risk of pushing up the basic price for all. What happens next is you get to the club and find Seli wants E300 for an hour. Presently you'd say 'no way". But then if the majority of the girls have by then latched on to your willingness to pay E200/60 you might consider e300/60.

In the same way the girls look out for one another (including on price), we guys need to do a bit of the same. I think agreeing E150/ hour up front with a possibility of increase for good service really is bucking the market for all. Loved the reports, and applaud the generosity or willingness to pay for great service on one hand. But these levels will only push the market up.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2347276]............ Truth is in most other P6 destinations (Thailand and other Far East destinations excluded. And I have zero experience in South America) E150 or 200 is the norm..............[/QUOTE]South America is bad. Don't visit.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347239]Seli usually sits with a towel wrapped around her by the bar near the canteen side. She claimed to be Turkish and seemed pleasant enough but said she doesn't go for E50 and charges E100 for 30 minutes. As she fitted the bill of my ideal woman looks wise, I agreed and said E100 for 30 minutes but if I wanted to upgrade to an hour it would be E150. She was happy with this but said if I was amazed by her performance she would ask me for E200 for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]In german fora her name is Sally. Saw her many times at Sharks, eg last Saturday.

Elegant appearance, classic style. She speaks very good german too. And obviously she knows pretty well how to cloud the brains of men.

So, just to change perspective by 180 degrees: before you gave her any money, you asked Sally if she had been totally mesmerized by your amazing performance?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2347278]South America is bad. Don't visit.[/QUOTE]In your opinion, why is it bad?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2347287]In german fora her name is Sally. Saw her many times at Sharks, eg last Saturday.

Elegant appearance, classic style. She speaks very good german too. And obviously she knows pretty well how to cloud the brains of men.

So, just to change perspective by 180 degrees: before you gave her any money, you asked Sally if she had been totally mesmerized by your amazing performance?[/QUOTE]Thought she said Sally but as it didn't sound Turkish thought there was a different spelling!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2347276]I've enjoyed reading your reports in all three threads. Seli sounds a performer. My only negative is the willingness to go to 200 for an hour. It sets a horribly dangerous precedent.

.[/QUOTE]Agree with many of your points and normally I wouldn't dream of paying over the odds but it was in many ways a perfect storm of what for me was a perfectly beautiful girl providing exceptional service the like of which I hadn't had at an FKK before and being in a very good mood which was largely down to her.

That said, I believe the market has changed with the OWO law nonsense and girls trying to extract an extra E50 for OWO over the last year or so. E100 for a 30 min session is too expensive but I think E150 is okay for an hour with a beautiful girl if OWO is included. Though I usually try to ensure OWO with the promise of a one hour session for E100. Problem with that approach is you don't want to end up promising one hour with a girl you've never sampled before. If I lived in Germany sure I would take a more careful approach but if you come 2 or 3 times a year, you're more likely to throw caution to the wind. But with the way the market is going with seemingly few stunning girls providing OWO for E50, its resulted in me having fewer 2 or 3 girls at a time session like I used to and certainly last year I restricted my threesomes to a tried and tested regulars and one of their friends. Has also resulted in me having more repeat sessions with regular girls as I still get the traditional services at the "correct" price but always take them for an hour at least.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347608]Thought she said Sally but as it didn't sound Turkish thought there was a different spelling![/QUOTE]At Sharks since at least October 2017.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2347276]I've enjoyed reading your reports in all three threads. Seli sounds a performer. My only negative is the willingness to go to 200 for an hour. It sets a horribly dangerous precedent.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347613]Agree with many of your points and normally I wouldn't dream of paying over the odds but it was in many ways a perfect storm of what for me was a perfectly beautiful girl providing exceptional service the like of which I hadn't had at an FKK before and being in a very good mood which was largely down to her.
[/QUOTE]The negative for overpaying a girl is that if I want to repeat then I have to pay the same amount of money I did the 1st time. So if I pay her 200 for hour, how can I go again with her for 100/ HR, so I think when I pay a girl - who i think i will repeat with- that I'm setting a price for her service, a tip is fine because tipping 10-20 every session with special girls is fine. But setting a 200/ hour as a price is bad. Thats how I think when paying a nice girl I want to repeat with.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347239]Seli:- Over the years I have developed eclectic tastes in women quite possibly due to my whoring habits, I like to try out different colours, ages, shapes and sizes though I don't stray too far from the conventional. But my ideal woman from when I was young has been classically beautiful, olive skinned brunettes with slim to medium figures and nice natural tits. I noticed such a girl last time but she was busy, however on this occasion she was available.

Seli usually sits with a towel wrapped around her by the bar near the canteen side. She claimed to be Turkish and seemed pleasant enough but said she doesn't go for E50 and charges E100 for 30 minutes. As she fitted the bill of my ideal woman looks wise, I agreed and said E100 for 30 minutes but if I wanted to upgrade to an hour it would be E150. She was happy with this but said if I was amazed by her performance she would ask me for E200 for 60 minutes.

This was one of the most thrilling sessions I have ever had. Perfect GFE with some pornstar style flourishes. It was almost as though she could read my mind and desires..[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report on Sally / Seli. It seems she is a top performer and beautiful. I haven't been to Sharks for a few years (3) but this report makes me want to visit just for her. Any other identifying signs for Sally? Height? Any tattoos? In my experience German-Turks have provided exceptional service and are, as you say, exceptionally beautiful. How old is Sally?

Oh and did you finish in her mouth?

Any recommendations for best pair of girls for a threesome? I'm not much into lesbi show, just fucking. Hoping to do 100 for 2 girls for half hour.

I'm visiting this paradise in 2 weeks and hope to see my favorites for 1:1 as well. Any idea about the availability of these girls: Mandi.

Viorica.

Sofia.

Francesca (tall blonde Ro.), sits by the bar.

Leoni.

[QUOTE=LvHobby;2346072]This was my first visit to Sharks.
,,,
Room 2: forgot name. I think Letty or something. 20 yo Romanian.
,,,
Room 3: Leticia. Moldavian.
,,,
Room 4: Micky from Milan (Italian).[/QUOTE]When did you have visit Sharks to see these three girls Melody, Leticia, Micky? Was you visit in this July or earlier in 2019?

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2347662]Any recommendations for best pair of girls for a threesome? I'm not much into lesbi show, just fucking. Hoping to do 100 for 2 girls for half hour.

I'm visiting this paradise in 2 weeks and hope to see my favorites for 1:1 as well. Any idea about the availability of these girls: Mandi.

Viorica.

Sofia.

Francesca (tall blonde Ro.), sits by the bar.

Leoni.[/QUOTE]Viorica now with black hair, but still often playing on machines, she may compete with Turkish Salli who also plays often, Francesca and Leoni. De, were at Sharks on beginning of July, but holidays time. Maybe girls play on machines, dreaming to pay their holidays, or to spend money they made being fucked with what they could have gone on holidays.

Nice report except for the racist Asian condescension. Somehow all Asians are getting "devoured" and are "prey" or "easy meat" whereas the rest of us know exactly how it all goes down?

[QUOTE=Paco1013;2343262]The place is buzzing with energy. I see these two beautiful blonde girls just devouring an Asian guy on the couch across from me. I'm kind of half watching and smiling. One of the girls sees me and smiles back. We all know what's up. I stop, look around, and pause to think about how great this place is.
Mission complete. Satisfaction achieved. See you next time.[/QUOTE]

I am planning to visit Shark on Thursday around 8 pm. I like girls with good attitude who can provide a good service and have natural tits. Please would any be able to recommend any girls who fit this description.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2347785]Viorica now with black hair, but still often playing on machines, she may compete with Turkish Salli who also plays often, Francesca and Leoni. De, were at Sharks on beginning of July, but holidays time. Maybe girls play on machines, dreaming to pay their holidays, or to spend money they made being fucked with what they could have gone on holidays.[/QUOTE]Thank You Siri. One of my all time best rooms in Germany was with Leoni with anal, and my first room in FKK was with Francesca. Hope the come back soon.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2347287]In german fora her name is Sally. Saw her many times at Sharks, eg last Saturday.

Elegant appearance, classic style. She speaks very good german too. And obviously she knows pretty well how to cloud the brains of men.

So, just to change perspective by 180 degrees: before you gave her any money, you asked Sally if she had been totally mesmerized by your amazing performance?[/QUOTE]Sally optic meanwhile only average. Talks too much, thinks she's a star. For me performance more show, rate her service in best case average. But yes she thinks she's a top performer. LOL.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2347821]I am planning to visit Shark on Thursday around 8 pm. I like girls with good attitude who can provide a good service and have natural tits. Please would any be able to recommend any girls who fit this description.[/QUOTE]Not sure Thursday is the best for casting at Sharks, but anywhere, open your eyes, speak with attractive girls for you, then choose and try to make her will to please you. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2347640]Thanks for a great report on Sally / Seli. It seems she is a top performer and beautiful. I haven't been to Sharks for a few years (3) but this report makes me want to visit just for her. Any other identifying signs for Sally? Height? Any tattoos? In my experience German-Turks have provided exceptional service and are, as you say, exceptionally beautiful. How old is Sally?

Oh and did you finish in her mouth?[/QUOTE]At least 25 yo, not model type, not Megan face, not high GFE, tanned skin, brunette, not new at Sharks. She plays on machines.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2348011]Not sure Thursday is the best for casting at Sharks, but anywhere, open your eyes, speak with attractive girls for you, then choose and try to make her will to please you. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. Which FKK in Frankfurt would you say is best on Thursday evenings.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2344117]

[B]Tamaris:[/B] not sure about age, Ro, just a teeny bit extra pounds than the petite girls I prefer, cute face, curly hair, b-cup. Did a 50 E /30 m session. Started off OK as I don't expect much from a 30 m session anymore. Her boobs were nice to play with so I was getting a hard on but her blow job was very mediocre. Then the nastiest thing happened. She let out a fart. No sound; only smell. Absolutely repulsive. I was like WTF. She said it came from the shower in the room. I let it go but I just couldn't get over it. It was a total boner killer. Given her subpar BJ skills, this session ended right there for me. We tried for a little bit but I just couldn't stand being in the room with her. While we were about to leave, she made sit at the edge of the bed (closer to the shower), and asked me to smell. Nothing! I said nice try and we walked down. At the very least, she could have owned up to it instead of blaming the shower.[/QUOTE]

Could you please present a bit more detailed description of the smell? Just kidding :-)

I arrived at Shark today about 8:30 pm there were about 40 girls. After having a shower and bite to eat I started chatting to Angela Romanian 23 years old with Slim long straight black hair. Perfect natural tits and narrow waist. She said 100 E /60 min I decided to give her a try and we headed off to a room. In the room we started with kissing followed by DATY she returned the favour started to lick my balls followed by OWO. I asked her if I could come in her mouth and she said 50 E and with that in mind I asked her to suck me in front of the mirror as I got close to coming I asked to come on her tongue and she duly obliged by holding her moth open and sticking her tongue out, I shot my load all over her tongue and in her mouth. After some rest we started with round two. Angela started with kissing followed by OWO, when I was ready she took out a condom and fucking followed. Cow girl, missionary and doggy. All in all in the room we took it real slow and finished in just under two hours and I paid her 250 E for 2 hrs + CIM. It's put a smile on my face.

[QUOTE=Freddie2019;2348508]I arrived at Shark today about 8:30 pm there were about 40 girls. After having a shower and bite to eat I started chatting to Angela Romanian 23 years old with Slim long straight black hair. Perfect natural tits and narrow waist. She said 100 E /60 min I decided to give her a try and we headed off to a room. In the room we started with kissing followed by DATY she returned the favour started to lick my balls followed by OWO. I asked her if I could come in her mouth and she said 50 E and with that in mind I asked her to suck me in front of the mirror as I got close to coming I asked to come on her tongue and she duly obliged by holding her moth open and sticking her tongue out, I shot my load all over her tongue and in her mouth. After some rest we started with round two. Angela started with kissing followed by OWO, when I was ready she took out a condom and fucking followed. Cow girl, missionary and doggy. All in all in the room we took it real slow and finished in just under two hours and I paid her 250 E for 2 hrs + CIM. It's put a smile on my face.[/QUOTE]I am going to Oase in am then I'll be at sharks this evening.

Hi all,

Planning to go to my first FKK ever. Kinda nervous but pretty much narrowed it down to the Sharks or Oase.

Can you guys give any tips for a first timer?

I also read that Asians get scammed? Or upsold? I am Asian but from north america so not the same as Japanese and Korean men. Is that an issue do the girls pick on Asian guys?

Sorry for all these questions I'm really interested in going but I feel like being Asian I won't have a good time because girls will try to upsell and give bad service.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated for a first timer who is Asian and kinda younger. All these reviews are getting me excited as I plan my trip to Europe! This is definitely one of my stops I want to make!

Thanks in advance everyone! Love the reviews everyone shares here it's so helpful for a noobie like me.

I see prices going up rather than 50 euro / 30 minutes. That not good for us! Haha.

I visited this place yesterday from 12 am to 01 am to get a reference to what is the normal for a good portion of the mongers.

Arrived at 12 and it was quite slow but that I had expected since it was Thursday.

Was imidiatly approached by an old lady by the name of Silvana that claimed to be some sort of expert on erotic pleasure. She approached me several times during the day / evening and did not seem to remember I had refused her earlier. And this was the case with several ladies, constant approach, hard to relax.

I gave in early for a cute romanian with a natural body and paid 150 for 1 hour. Probably more than enough but she anyway kept nagging about tips. Irritating but expected.

It put me in a "non fuck mode" for the rest of the stay so I had no more sessions.

I can understand that this place is loved by those that like slender beauties and there was also a great variation on girls for every taste but I did not like the mood, it is just a fancy fuck factory.

Now to the part I liked, the relax and food.

Best ever experienced! Interesting steam bath with ice machine and some kind of sprinkler system, nice big outdoor area with tents and fuck huts, sauna with essences, 3 jacuzzis, good buffet, good BBQ, you name it, they got it. So I ate and relaxed and joked with the girls. I got a lot of different reactions to this behaviour. From "I hate you!" to "you are to crazy for me" to offers for different kind of erotic pleasures involving my rectum. Chrashed in a resting chair upstairs at 12 pm when my friend had a session and woke up with Silvana all over me. I should have infomed here about the Swedish law for consent before sexual acts but don't know if she would have understood.

Anyway, nice place but it is not for me. This is my first visit to a FKK where they have not asked me "is this your first time here" and allocated a girl to show me around when I enter. Not even a "welcome" from front desk, only "shoe size?" And "towel or robe?

PS. Where have they hidden the porn kino??? Tried to find it for several hours with no luck!

[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2348650]I visited this place yesterday from 12 am to 01 am to get a reference to what is the normal for a good portion of the mongers.

Arrived at 12 and it was quite slow but that I had expected since it was Thursday.

Was imidiatly approached by an old lady by the name of Silvana that claimed to be some sort of expert on erotic pleasure. She approached me several times during the day / evening and did not seem to remember I had refused her earlier. And this was the case with several ladies, constant approach, hard to relax.

I gave in early for a cute romanian with a natural body and paid 150 for 1 hour. Probably more than enough but she anyway kept nagging about tips. Irritating but expected.[/QUOTE]No more kino. Whole Oase new lounge is a multiplex kino now. Experts like me drive for Sylvana from Paris where I have only Russian escorts, but no granny. Sad fuck factory now, even a beautiful garden, but not same charm than Harmony Seevetal. You should visit World when it s sunny, where You can play monkey in tree.

[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2348650]I visited this place yesterday from 12 am to 01 am to get a reference to what is the normal for a good portion of the mongers.

Arrived at 12 and it was quite slow but that I had expected since it was Thursday.

Was imidiatly approached by an old lady by the name of Silvana that claimed to be some sort of expert on erotic pleasure. She approached me several times during the day / evening and did not seem to remember I had refused her earlier. And this was the case with several ladies, constant approach, hard to relax.

I gave in early for a cute romanian with a natural body and paid 150 for 1 hour. Probably more than enough but she anyway kept nagging about tips. Irritating but expected.

It put me in a "non fuck mode" for the rest of the stay so I had no more sessions.

I can understand that this place is loved by those that like slender beauties and there was also a great variation on girls for every taste but I did not like the mood, it is just a fancy fuck factory.

Now to the part I liked, the relax and food.![/QUOTE]Silvana is a very old prostitute, saying she is Italian, may be, last time I spoke to her was beginning of 18 in FKK First she claimed to get fucked by 30000+ guys, for me she is awful and even she will pay me I will not go to the room with her, it would be like fucking my grandmother. She was more or less ask to leave most of the clubs in Germany, very aggressive and doesn't remember what we spoke 5 minutes back. Yes Shark has a lot of aggressive girls but overall not very sexy one if we take my criterias: fresh, natural, no sili, no botox, no hair extensions, . Difficult in the last months for me to spend my hardly earned money in clubs even with escorts, it is no problem and my bank accounts was never so wealthy.

[B]Tamaris:[/B] not sure about age, Ro, just bit extra pounds than the petite girls I prefer, cute face, curly hair, b-cup. Did a 50 E /30 m session. Started off OK as I don't expect much from a 30 m session anymore. Her boobs were nice to play with so I was getting a hard on but her blow job was very mediocre. Then the nastiest thing happened. She let out a fart. No sound; only smell. Absolutely repulsive. I was like WTF. She said it came from the shower in the room. I let it go but I just couldn't get over it. It was a total boner killer. Given her subpar BJ skills, this session ended right there for me. We tried for a little bit but I just couldn't stand being in the room with her. While we were about to leave, she made sit at the edge of the bed (closer to the shower), and asked me to smell. Nothing! I said nice try and we walked down. At the very least, she could have owned up to it instead of blaming the shower.

Nothing more than natural, I have average big dick and often in doggy the girls have to do this kind of thing. It is not a porn but the real life. Also if you do anal in the clubs often the condom will get some shit on it just because the girls can t not prepare their ass for anal sex in the clubs like they do before a porn movie.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2348565]Hi all,

Planning to go to my first FKK ever. Kinda nervous but pretty much narrowed it down to the Sharks or Oase.

Can you guys give any tips for a first timer?

I also read that Asians get scammed? Or upsold? I am Asian but from north america so not the same as Japanese and Korean men. Is that an issue do the girls pick on Asian guys?

Sorry for all these questions I'm really interested in going but I feel like being Asian I won't have a good time because girls will try to upsell and give bad service.[/QUOTE]Take it easy, don't rush, drink no alcohol at all, and no room in the first 2 hours just to let you understand a bit how it works.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346948]For me it is useless, session her, make your own opinion, chemistry between the people is the key for a great session, not the reports from others.[/QUOTE]Correct in fact I had made a list for girls with names from reports but when in the club you choose the girl pleasing to your eyes and who you think will give good service however if girl chosen is from report list it is an add on.

I visited Sharks again on Wednesday and the LU is so much improved over what I could see at the end of May.

As I entered I saw Liliana (Lit / De) and so I knew we were off to a good start. Grabbed her and off we went for 1 h in one of the upstairs room. With hindsight, I should have asked her to go in the garden as the rooms tend to heat up a lot during the day. Anyway, I had an amazing session and almost come twice in 1 h! (100 E1 h).

Then I took some time to recharge and after a sauna aufguss and some light food, I was off hunting again. My attention was caught by Melissa (Ro), amazing body (probably the best boobs and bum in the club) and with dyed red hair. It was amazing and feeling that body was just a privilege.

I've also noticed several new faces and among them Lari (Ro) was a great discovery. I couldn't session with her because I wasn't ready when she was available, but she does really have an amazing body. It was her first day in Sharks and she was amazed by the size of the club!

Ended my visit with a session with Lilly (Ro) because I can just resist to those titties! (50 E30 min).

All in all I felt that Sharks is back being a buzzing and great club under all points of view.

Rock.

For fans, Elif and Amalia are back. Funny hair for playful Albanian Anja, but I don t know why so many girls in many clubs want to touch my hair, like my LR Eve who wanted to put my hair like a Romanian, when I never asked her money.

Really nice words in French from the desk when I left at 5 am, no problem with bar girls, if only I could find a chic woman type, but I found a cute angel for 1 h30 super GFE she was for me in VIP jacuzzi room, foreplaying in bubbles. When she said: now your turn for pleasure, very sweet BJ, like her kisses. Pity to be once again too big.

Many girls but average casting for me, not on my standard for look, even always a pleasure to see Madalina.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2348565]Hi all,

Planning to go to my first FKK ever. Kinda nervous but pretty much narrowed it down to the Sharks or Oase.

Can you guys give any tips for a first timer?

I also read that Asians get scammed? Or upsold? I am Asian but from north america so not the same as Japanese and Korean men. Is that an issue do the girls pick on Asian guys?.[/QUOTE]Great, you are going to FKK Sharks or Oase. I'm Asian American too.

I live on the West Coast and use to go to Tijuana, Mexico, a lot. However, going to Tijuana, can be a little dangerous and you never know what you are going to get. Also, you have to pay the girl before you have sex. Many women have had babies and might find a big see section scar or some other distraction.

Frankfurt FKK clubs are like going go the Playboy mansion except you encounter 100+ beautiful totally nude women that want you to spend money on them. The women range from a few totally awesome stunners to many girl next door.

Because you speak English, you will not have any problems communicating. Most of the women speak English well. You are a magnet because you are Asian, the girl especially if she is blonde will think you will go crazy for her and spend extra money on her.

The conversation will go like this: "Hi, where are you from?" You answer. New York. What she really wants to know is, what country are you from? Then ask her, "Where are you from?" Most will say, "Romania. " Others will say, "Bulgaria, Moldavia or another East European country. Then they will shake your hand and they will tell you their name. You tell them your name. Now that you are friends, for me, I then tell them, "My grandmother and grandfather are from Asian country. " At times, they will say konnichi wa, Neiha, Yeoboseyo, if you ancestors are from Japan, China or Korea.

Next set of question, "Is this your first time?" Never, say this is your first time. Just say, you have been to many FKK in Frankfurt. Ask them, "How long have you been working at the club." They will tell you. It will give you an understanding how experienced they are in getting you to go up to the room and how much they may want. Then they will ask you to go to the room. If you say, "No", say it nicely. If they think you might take them to the room, most will want to talk to you more at the bar or on the couch. Be careful when you say, "Maybe later. " They will come back to you many times.

You really want to see that you have a little chemistry with the woman or at least she wants to give you a nice time. If you like her then It is important you both understand what services she will provide, price and time. Remember, you are paying for a girls' time and she is part of your fantasy. Hopefully, you will have a great time and "Happy Ending."

Sharks has a large amount and variety of girls and different age groups. They have good buffet food and decent Chinese food Wednesday to Sunday. My only negative is at times, the club fills with too much smoke.

From Frankfurt take the R60 or R68 train to Darmstadt train station, then are bus toward Darmstadt Nordbahnhof with the same 16.75 euro ticket (Round trip). Get off at Daimlerweg. You will see Hornbach which is like Homedepot. Walk 100 feet toward the Seat Car dealership then turn right and walk toward the back. When you leave, Sharks has their own Mercedes taxi. They will take you to the train station for 10 euros.

Oase has a fair amount of girls and different age groups. Light during the day and more girls toward the evening. During the summertime you will enjoy the beautiful garden and swimming pool, elaborate mirrored rooms, quiet relax area where girls are not allowed to approach you, okay buffet, free pizza after 9 pm and No smoking area.

From Frankfurt, you can take the new shuttle bus. The pick up area is on the south side of the Main train station, directly across from Hotel Excelsior. They leave at 12 PM, 2 PM, 8 PM, 10 PM, 12 AM, 2 AM. 5 euros each way. If you go at other times, take the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf. 9.65 Euros (Round Trip). Then find a waiting taxi and tell them you want to go to FKK Oase. Cost is about 10-12 Euros each way.

Have fun and give us a report!

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2348565]Hi all,

Planning to go to my first FKK ever. Kinda nervous but pretty much narrowed it down to the Sharks or Oase.

Can you guys give any tips for a first timer?

I also read that Asians get scammed? Or upsold? I am Asian but from north america so not the same as Japanese and Korean men. Is that an issue do the girls pick on Asian guys?

Sorry for all these questions I'm really interested in going but I feel like being Asian I won't have a good time because girls will try to upsell and give bad service.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated for a first timer who is Asian and kinda younger. All these reviews are getting me excited as I plan my trip to Europe! This is definitely one of my stops I want to make!

Thanks in advance everyone! Love the reviews everyone shares here it's so helpful for a noobie like me.

I see prices going up rather than 50 euro / 30 minutes. That not good for us! Haha.[/QUOTE]Based on my very recent experiences, if you will have a rental car, I suggest you first go to Finca Erotica or World, learn how a normal FKK works and experience how natural beautiful no-upselling nice girls are, and then only go to tourist traps like Sharks or Oase. This way, you will have much easier and better time overall.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2348565]Hi all,

Planning to go to my first FKK ever. Kinda nervous but pretty much narrowed it down to the Sharks or Oase.

Can you guys give any tips for a first timer?

I also read that Asians get scammed? Or upsold? I am Asian but from north america so not the same as Japanese and Korean men. Is that an issue do the girls pick on Asian guys?

Sorry for all these questions.[/QUOTE]Don't be sorry, we all had a first time. For starters, forget about Oase. Oase is crowded, hot, small, dirty, filthy (they seem to stop cleaning the rooms when they get busy, leaving cum rags overflowing from the dustbin, yeghhhhhh). Sharks is where you want to be. High ceilings, lots of nooks and crannies to hang out with a girl, lots of femininity on display, both good and bad. Lots of human drama playing out which is fun to watch.

Yes, don't get too drunk when you first go. Watch out for the "sharks", they cruise around sometimes hand in hand looking for newbies and horndogs. If you're calm, careful and discerning there are a lot of true beauties there. Go late, like 10 pm or later and stay till 3 am. Early in the day (like noon till 5) the selection is limited. Be friendly but non committal to the girls, don't go with the first one you meet,. Take your time. Be generous, don't start hammering them with this 50/30 bullshit as it will put a wet cloud over the whole process.

FWIW there seem to be more "Asians" earlier in the day, and less at night,. Or perhaps the ratio of Asians to non Asians decreases as more people arrive.

GL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2348665]No more kino.
You should visit World when it s sunny, where You can play monkey in tree.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks Sirioja, that explains why I did not find it!

"Playing monkey in tree" for sure wakes my interest but I have a lot of other clubs to explore before hitting a mega club again.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2348738]if we take my criterias: fresh, natural, no sili, no botox, no hair extensions[/QUOTE]We for sure have the same criterias for looks. And I would like to add I like them a bit crazy as well!

[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2349048]Ok, thanks Sirioja, that explains why I did not find it!

"Playing monkey in tree" for sure wakes my interest but I have a lot of other clubs to explore before hitting a mega club again.[/QUOTE]Less girls at World, a large room in a tree. World is different. For public sex in kino: Mainhattan or Palace.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2348883]

As I entered I saw Liliana (Lit / De), .... I had an amazing session and almost come twice in 1 h! (100 E1 h).

My attention was caught by Melissa (Ro), amazing body (probably the best boobs and bum in the club) and with dyed red hair. It was amazing and feeling that body was just a privilege.

Ended my visit with a session with Lilly (Ro) because I can just resist to those titties! (50 E30 min).

Rock.[/QUOTE]Interesting. The only girl you didn't mention the cost and time in the room is Melissa. She is well known for asking high prices. Will you reveal to us the cost for such type of "privilege".

Melissa now with red hair ask 100 for 30 mn and with me 150 for 1 hour. Nothing else attractive on our day. More interesting to chat than average, nice but lack of fire, compare to cute Angel who is also more tender, and for same rate 1h30 really GFE with jacuzzi in VIP room, asking when I will come back, but I look for higher look and charm than both, and felt uncomfortable seeing her arching.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2348883] My attention was caught by Melissa (Ro), amazing body (probably the best boobs and bum in the club) and with dyed red hair. It was amazing and feeling that body was just a privilege.

I've also noticed several new faces and among them Lari (Ro)
Rock.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. I always enjoy my time with Melissa as well. I just can't resist her beauty and good service, even though she demands 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 and so on. Did you pay the same rate?

Could you give some more information about the new girls you encountered? For example Lari: How did she look and where did she sit?

I would appreciate it.

Dear fellows,

After a long time I will be close to Frankfurt next Tuesday. I can not decide if I should visit Oase or Sharks. Its a while that I have been in both, and I like them all. So main question is: where will be the hottest ladies. I love it slim and young. And with minimum of plastics inside the boobs.

Does anybody has an idea which place offers most of these kind of ladies in these days?

Thanks a lot in advance.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349054]Less girls at World, a large room in a tree. World is different. For public sex in kino: Mainhattan or Palace.[/QUOTE]World now has a small kino too, on the left side of the main door to the garden from the bar, but very few girls are willing to do public sex there. Best public sex is at Globe now.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2349077].... even though she demands 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 and so on. Did you pay the same rate?...[/QUOTE]My session with Melissa:

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2321408]...2) Melissa: 1600-1720 (excluding 10 min as tip), 150 E + 50 E (kiss and licking), 172 cm, Rom, 21 yo, very very pretty, short red-colored hair, B-cup, slim, model, one year at Sharks, Oase, Palace and Vienna et al. In a room we enjoyed kissing, caressing, 35 min's DATY with her O, the first O she has ever experienced in her FKK life, tobacco break, 15 min cow-girl and pillow talk. Must must repeat...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2349277]My session with Melissa:[/QUOTE]She is nice to chat and gave her rate 100/30 or 150/60 before room, so she didn't force me to go but beauties are so rare at Sharks, unfortunately for me, and again on this Friday evening after Oase which was also down until 7.30 pm and my wow girl still off, but not the faintest money talk with Melissa in room, nice behavior, she tries to please, sweet but not GFE illusion for me, lack of emotion, like a German mind in a Romanian body, when Romanian mind is a real quality for me. I told to cute angel I was looking for dreaming with a woman on this Friday, she didn't know what mean foreplay, but we started in VIP room jacuzzi and kept on in bed and even a small pussy, but a little woman for behavior. A Romanian mind who are good for love in bed. Much higher GFE illusion I look for and if I stayed 1 h30 with foreplaying in jacuzzi, could have been only 1 hour for 100. Also no money talk, no upselling, she only told me when we started to chat, she is not interested by 30 mn, so I answered: It would be only 10 mn, or at least 1 hour. Of course I m not anymore a regular, but girls should know I m not a rabbit, she asked when I paid if I would return on Saturday? Or when? But I didn't find the chic with charm woman type I look for, so time to prepare my friend bicycle and train a bit, to start in Iseran 2765 high to make more blood.

[QUOTE=Germanboy2;2349131]Dear fellows,

After a long time I will be close to Frankfurt next Tuesday. I can not decide if I should visit Oase or Sharks. Its a while that I have been in both, and I like them all. So main question is: where will be the hottest ladies. I love it slim and young. And with minimum of plastics inside the boobs.

Does anybody has an idea which place offers most of these kind of ladies in these days?

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]In average less plastics in boobs at sharks. But lineups on a Tuesday can be poor at both places. Even in the summer.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2349247]World now has a small kino too, on the left side of the main door to the garden from the bar, but very few girls are willing to do public sex there. Best public sex is at Globe now.[/QUOTE]I listed clubs with public action, Palace and Mainhattan, I don't see anymore in new Oase kino lounge. I know for Globe unfortunately and I stop to go with my girls, Larissa even only foreplay, Sofia who was with Viky, sometimes Kate, when I see them on public, so Kate stopped when she saw me, but even I should be happy about her reaction for me, I think she doesn't want to see a prostitute in my eyes, but I didn't go with her because I couldn't see the chic with elegance and charm she is with me and I love her only like this, I don t need prostitute behavior, not exciting but killing desire for me.

[QUOTE=Germanboy2;2349131]Dear fellows,

After a long time I will be close to Frankfurt next Tuesday. I can not decide if I should visit Oase or Sharks. Its a while that I have been in both, and I like them all. So main question is: where will be the hottest ladies. I love it slim and young. And with minimum of plastics inside the boobs.

Does anybody has an idea which place offers most of these kind of ladies in these days?

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]Holidays time, very average casting for both on this Friday for my eyes. My advice: start at Oase with entry 50 before 4 pm, if You are attracted by sexy Miky, or Evolette or Cassandra or Roxana or Estefania or Alice. If not, move to Sharks to arrive before 8 pm, for woman type Nana, or others. Tuesday may be the lowest day for castings.

[QUOTE=MrExperienced;2349021]Don't be sorry, we all had a first time. For starters, forget about Oase. Oase is crowded, hot, small, dirty, filthy (they seem to stop cleaning the rooms when they get busy, leaving cum rags overflowing from the dustbin, yeghhhhhh). Sharks is where you want to be. High ceilings, lots of nooks and crannies to hang out with a girl, lots of femininity on display, both good and bad. Lots of human drama playing out which is fun to watch.

Yes, don't get too drunk when you first go. Watch out for the "sharks", they cruise around sometimes hand in hand looking for newbies and horndogs. If you're calm, careful and discerning there are a lot of true beauties there. Go late, like 10 pm or later and stay till 3 am. Early in the day (like noon till 5) the selection is limited. Be friendly but non committal to the girls, don't go with the first one you meet,. Take your time. Be generous, don't start hammering them with this 50/30 bullshit as it will put a wet cloud over the whole process.

FWIW there seem to be more "Asians" earlier in the day, and less at night,. Or perhaps the ratio of Asians to non Asians decreases as more people arrive.

GL.[/QUOTE]I agree better not to drink too much, for bad breathe and less powerful, I prefer milk and cyprine. I also agree, even I m not anymore a regular, but Sharks changed: No more Megan, or Sandra or Dina on early hours, only Nana, Sharks seem now to wake up on evening, but we don t seem to have same eyes: real lack of chic and charm for me. Oase is not crowded now and I saw prettier girls there on April and May. Sexiest seen on this Friday was Miki who is a great performer for fucking, a real woman vagina. On this Friday evening, I proposed to cute angel who wanted to play woman for me, to go in chalet in the garden, but she said she would be cold, so as I never want to make my girls uncomfortable, we went upstairs where a girl was already waiting for free room at 9.45 pm, so we looked in VIP zone and went to a VIP room with Jacuzzi, then I thought: let s erotic foreplay in jacuzzi. Not first time in VIP room, no extra cost, but first time to foreplay in Jacuzzi. With a bit more of sensuality, even she was sweetness and tenderness, and a more woman type, it would have been jacuzzi to heaven, and when she asked me, I would have answered: let s share contact, to meet again, but I need a more woman type with more femininity and more sensuality, but I enjoyed 1h30 with her.

[QUOTE=FuckedUpSwede;2349048]Ok, thanks Sirioja, that explains why I did not find it!

"Playing monkey in tree" for sure wakes my interest but I have a lot of other clubs to explore before hitting a mega club again.[/QUOTE]I'm not promoter of any club, only chic elegant girls interest me, but when it's sunny, and I advice on Friday or Saturday, World is different than other clubs for me, even I love to play football at Oase, or they made a really beautiful garden with beautiful trees, I'm jealous of their gardener, at Sharks. They also improved rooms at World which have best room I know in tree, when high level Globe have many very average rooms, only Kleopatra and few others have light to contemplate beauty.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2349077]Thanks for the great report. I always enjoy my time with Melissa as well. I just can't resist her beauty and good service, even though she demands 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 and so on. Did you pay the same rate?

Could you give some more information about the new girls you encountered? For example Lari: How did she look and where did she sit?

I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Yes, correct, Melissa does not do 50 E sessions. So you have to give her 100 E. I only stayed 30 min with her because I wanted to eat something. So I don't know if she could do 100 E for 1 h, but it was OK in my view! I don't think she will stay at Sharks much longer, so grab her while you can!

Lari (Ro) is a dark blond-long haired beauty with amazing boobs, which may have some silicon in it. Not skinny, but everything in the right place as she was an athlete or swimmer. She's always with her new friend with saggy boobs and with shorter dark blonde hair. She didn't have a specific place to sit, but I normally found her on the very long sofa under the stairs to the upper floor with jacuzzi pools facing the ex-Kino.

I then noticed a black-haired, (don't know the name) very short hair, olive skinned gazzelle, great boobs, normally wearing some crossed strings as a top. Dark eyes. Great beauty, who I didn't have the chance to try, but what a beauty.

Anja (with Albanian eagle on the back) was present but she seemed more interested in playing videogames than in sessioning with customers, but she's still a great beauty.

Sabrina (Ro) sitting on the sofas in near the solarium room facing the bar. Long blond hair, blue nice eyes and amazing legs. Great beauty, but I couldn't try her.

All in all, I have seen more top beauties at Sharks than in Globe (Zurich) at the beginning of July. In addition, only seeing these beauties in the garden under the sun is worth the entry fee!

Rock.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2349058]Interesting. The only girl you didn't mention the cost and time in the room is Melissa. She is well known for asking high prices. Will you reveal to us the cost for such type of "privilege".[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry, I did forget to add that. I paid 100 E for Melissa and we stayed 30 min. To be honest I wouldn't have stayed longer as I was really hungry and needed some food, so it was OK for me! But yes, she does not do 50 E sessions.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349372]Holidays time, very average casting for both on this Friday for my eyes. My advice: start at Oase with entry 50 before 4 pm, if You are attracted by sexy Miky, or Evolette or Cassandra or Roxana or Estefania or Alice. If not, move to Sharks to arrive before 8 pm, for woman type Nana, or others. Tuesday may be the lowest day for castings.[/QUOTE]Also Maya at Oase, and what a pleasure to meet at Sharks my friend since 2015, ex Larissa at LR, my friend said: what you did to her? When he saw her coming to me in the garden on June 2015, but now at Sharks. We could speak about what became LR.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2349441]Yes, correct, Melissa does not do 50 E sessions. So you have to give her 100 E. I only stayed 30 min with her because I wanted to eat something. So I don't know if she could do 100 E for 1 h, but it was OK in my view! I don't think she will stay at Sharks much longer, so grab her while you can!

Lari (Ro) is a dark blond-long haired beauty with amazing boobs, which may have some silicon in it. Not skinny, but everything in the right place as she was an athlete or swimmer. She's always with her new friend with saggy boobs and with shorter dark blonde hair. She didn't have a specific place to sit, but I normally found her on the very long sofa under the stairs to the upper floor with jacuzzi pools facing the ex-Kino.

I then noticed a black-haired, (don't know the name) very short hair, olive skinned gazzelle, great boobs, normally wearing some crossed strings as a top. Dark eyes. Great beauty, who I didn't have the chance to try, but what a beauty.

Anja (with Albanian eagle on the back) was present but she seemed more interested in playing videogames than in sessioning with customers, but she's still a great beauty.

Sabrina (Ro) sitting on the sofas in near the solarium room facing the bar. Long blond hair, blue nice eyes and amazing legs. Great beauty, but I couldn't try her.

All in all, I have seen more top beauties at Sharks than in Globe (Zurich) at the beginning of July. In addition, only seeing these beauties in the garden under the sun is worth the entry fee!

Rock.[/QUOTE]Melissa is at Sharks since months. Albanian Anja seemed to look for business on Friday night, but jealous Japanese and German between us. Ex Sabrina and Alina World don't seem full busy, even Evita was not on Friday evening. After my 2 visits at Sharks, I will take risk to return to Globe, because other planet for looks for my eyes, and far higher level in bed than Melissa even she is friendly, but no wow vision nor experience.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2349441]I then noticed a black-haired, (don't know the name) very short hair, olive skinned gazzelle, great boobs, normally wearing some crossed strings as a top. Dark eyes. Great beauty, who I didn't have the chance to try, but what a beauty.[/QUOTE]Her name is Becky!

[QUOTE=RockyV;2349441]Anja (with Albanian eagle on the back) was present but she seemed more interested in playing videogames than in sessioning with customers, ...[/QUOTE]Viorica, Karen, Anja, Mirella are heavily attracted by these machines. BTW, since a couple of days, there is an additional new electronic play-desk, right in front of the money-lockers. Four people can sit there and play together.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349622]Melissa is at Sharks since months. Albanian Anja seemed to look for business on Friday night, but jealous Japanese and German between us. Ex Sabrina and Alina World don't seem full busy, even Evita was not on Friday evening. After my 2 visits at Sharks, I will take risk to return to Globe, because other planet for looks for my eyes, and far higher level in bed than Melissa even she is friendly, but no wow vision nor experience.[/QUOTE]Who wants to session Alina or Sabrina, both were so many years at World, over fucked, really smelling the cheap prostitute, I just wish those girls can move to another life outside the P6.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349591]Also Maya at Oase, and what a pleasure to meet at Sharks my friend since 2015, ex Larissa at LR, my friend said: what you did to her? When he saw her coming to me in the garden on June 2015, but now at Sharks. We could speak about what became LR.[/QUOTE]Confirms what I am always complaining, always the same girls around switching from one club to another, or from escort in London to FKK, or Spain. But at the end of the end veteran girls mostly unattractive for me.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2348761]Take it easy, don't rush, drink no alcohol at all, and no room in the first 2 hours just to let you understand a bit how it works.[/QUOTE]I agree for being relax, not drinking alcohol, trying to understand how girls and club work, but if You see a really desirable girl for You, and they are very rare for me, then better not to wait to go to her, because You may wait for her for long hours or never see her again. I will always prefer desirable woman types, only them motivate my pleasure for sex. Had some great in FKK land, when some Russian or Ukrainian escorts for at least 200 , are not higher level nor prettier.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2349641]Her name is Becky!

Yes, I talked to her yesterday (new report coming soon) and she was almost constantly booked!

Viorica, Karen, Anja, Mirella are heavily attracted by these machines. BTW, since a couple of days, there is an additional new electronic play-desk, right in front of the money-lockers. Four people can sit there and play together.[/QUOTE]Yes, Viorica is always attached to the slot-machines to lose all the money she earns. Anja is addicted to the table play desk and rejects most people approaching her. She must have someone paying for her entrances and food.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349622].......... Sabrina and Alina World don't seem full busy.............[/QUOTE]Alina has a patron who when at the club spends much time with her. I am quite surprised that Alina and her friend Roberta don't seem to get much business, I had a great time with them both.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2349887]Alina has a patron who when at the club spends much time with her. I am quite surprised that Alina and her friend Roberta don't seem to get much business, I had a great time with them both.[/QUOTE]Alina is a veteran prostitute, clean girl but nothing special, just started to provide CIM (only extra) since end of 2017, but I think you are aware of it, I don t like those kind of over fucked girls nothing fresh, overall nothing to pay for.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2349761]Who wants to session Alina or Sabrina, both were so many years at World, over fucked, really smelling the cheap prostitute, I just wish those girls can move to another life outside the P6.[/QUOTE]If you want fresh little girls just fallen from the truck, Aca Velbert used to be the place, also Samya, sometimes Finca, Megan started at Mainhattan at 19 yo with natural chesnut hair. I prefer woman types and to build them for me.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2349809]Yes, Viorica is always attached to the slot-machines to lose all the money she earns. Anja is addicted to the table play desk and rejects most people approaching her. She must have someone paying for her entrances and food.[/QUOTE]Anja is friendly and playful. Is your tanned, short hair brunette sitting under TV between ex kino and stairs to jacuzzis?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2349887]Alina has a patron who when at the club spends much time with her. I am quite surprised that Alina and her friend Roberta don't seem to get much business, I had a great time with them both.[/QUOTE]I saw them so often when I visited World weekly, if they moved to Sharks, even I prefer World for the club but I like chalets in Sharks garden, I wish them a better business and Sabina seems friendly. I just don't like ies in FKK land, I don't need brother in brothels.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2349968]If you want fresh little girls just fallen from the truck, Aca Velbert used to be the place, also Samya, sometimes Finca, Megan started at Mainhattan at 19 yo with natural chesnut hair. I prefer woman types and to build them for me.[/QUOTE]Denisa at Sharks turned 18 only a month or so ago. Model face, blond medium length hair, 172 cm tall without shoes if I remember correctly, slim but not too skinny, absolutely no tattoos (she hates tattoos), milky skin, beautiful natural B cup boobs, beautiful pussy and perfect round little ass, sweet girl with zero upselling, only 2-3 weeks in this job but can hold a conversation, good in English, usually sits next to pole dance stage below the stairway to heaven. Only negative is that very novice at sex but still nice time 😁.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2350038]Denisa at Sharks turned 18 only a month or so ago. Model face, blond medium length hair, 172 cm tall without shoes if I remember correctly, slim but not too skinny, absolutely no tattoos (she hates tattoos), milky skin, beautiful natural B cup boobs, beautiful pussy and perfect round little ass, sweet girl with zero upselling, only 2-3 weeks in this job but can hold a conversation, good in English, usually sits next to pole dance stage below the stairway to heaven. Only negative is that very novice at sex but still nice time.[/QUOTE]If she worked on my 2 visits on July on a Saturday and Friday, my eyes didn't notice her beauty, even I love no tattoo, milky skin and full natural. Unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2349887]Alina has a patron who when at the club spends much time with her.[/QUOTE]Used to be only on Fridays and Sundays (and public holidays) at World. Same pattern now in Sharks. Only difference I think is that the patron still went to Sharks to take other girls (e.g. Tina) when Alina was not around, while now he turns up in Sharks only when Alina/Angie is present (I am not fully sure about this as I am not in Sharks often enough).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2350030].......... I just don't like ies in FKK land...........[/QUOTE]For clarity sake when I said I did both Alina and Roberta I meant I did them separately on different occasions, not together. I have no idea whether they do les or not.
On another note I see they're being criticized for being veteran prostitutes. Some of my best sessions are from experienced courtesans who know how to please a man. I'm grateful for them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2350101]On another note I see they're being criticized for being veteran prostitutes. Some of my best sessions are from experienced courtesans who know how to please a man. I'm grateful for them.[/QUOTE]This is my experience as well, a lot of the more veteran girls are really skilled. And conversely, some of my worst sessions have been with 18-19 year old with no idea what they are doing, or no real interest. Sharks Aida comes to mind, who, despite a banging tight young body, was totally boring in the room.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2350101]For clarity sake when I said I did both Alina and Roberta I meant I did them separately on different occasions, not together. I have no idea whether they do les or not.
On another note I see they're being criticized for being veteran prostitutes. Some of my best sessions are from experienced courtesans who know how to please a man. I'm grateful for them.[/QUOTE]You could take them together because they play to be sisters, real sisters Elif and Amalia are back, lies are like seeing a girl being fucked, just killing my desire. I agree some not new WGs are still fresh in mind, behavior and for look, when some new WGs are really not fresh. Like us, all girls are different and best to get the best from them is to be able to adapt to them, all girls can t give the same. Some kiss like a passionate GF, I love this. Some listen and look at your reactions for BJ, some are great for fucking, some are able to make You dream, some don t worth to pay for. And as say girls, we are all different, some are excited to see girls as prostitutes, I only desire when I see a bit of a woman. When I started to chat with cute angel, she asked: You look for somebody? I answered: I look for a woman. She didn't know the word foreplay, but we had 1 h30 in room jacuzzi or bed, she stopped after me, before midnight, but seemed to want to know when I will come back, like most other girls.

After a mind blowing, 3 h (very expensive!) escort booking in my hotel room on Saturday evening, which kept a smile on my face for many hours after that, I woke up on Sunday morning with the hitch to go over to Darmstadt again and pay Sharks crowd a new visit.

I arrived at Sharks at 13:56, so I only paid 50 E for the entrance. LU wasn't as good as on Wednesday, but the club was rather full of mongers. So, even average girls managed to get a few zimmers! I have seen Sylvana doing at least three sessions. Unbelievable, I know, but we are living in a Trump & Brexit crazy times after all!

Theodora (Ro) - Started my day with a session with blonde, white skin, nice tits, Theodora (Ro), relatively new at Sharks and previously worked in Stuttgart. She is not a top beauty, but I wasn't looking for that as I had a perfect beauty the day before in my room. Theodora is very sweet and she also has nice eyes and natural nice boobs. CBJ only on the menu, but I was ok with it. Lovely session overall (50 E 30 min).

Cindy (Ro) - after some relax and saunas, I came across blonde with pony-tail, petite Cindy. She is a GND type of girl but she has a great smile. Boobs are small but cute. So I decided to take her for a ride. In the room, she offered GFE for 100 E 30 min, but I declined as I only give 100 E 30 min to Melissa and her peers. CBJ only on the menu, but I enjoyed the session anyway. She turned me on so much with her moaning and eyes. Nice session, I would probably repeat (50 E 30 min).

It was early evening by now and I was starting to think to move over to Palace for my first visit to this club, but Melissa walked in and my cock begged me to stay. So I did.

Melissa (Ro) - I went to talked to her as soon as she entered the club. We went to a room upstairs for 1 h and I had again an amazing time with her. What a beauty! (150 E 1 h).

Anja (Ro) was also present in the club but she was either playing at the new table video game or with one of her boyfriends in the club, who kept buying her vodka drinks. She looked inaccessible, so I didn't try to approach her at all.

By now it was 11 pm and I was starting to think of going back to my hotel in Frankfurt, so I was getting my things from the money locker when Melissa appeared again. My little friend didn't want to go to sleep just yet, so I took Melissa for a second short session. That was just what I needed for a good night sleep. (100 E 30 min).

For their fans, sisters Amalia and Elif were back in the club on Sunday and they were very busy. Elif put on some pounds, but she still has a great sexy bum and boobs. Becky was also present at the club and she was also very busy.

All in all a great Sunday at Sharks, but I'm still thinking of that escort booking on Saturday and when I will be able to repeat it without breaking the bank!

Rock.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2350017]Anja is friendly and playful. Is your tanned, short hair brunette sitting under TV between ex kino and stairs to jacuzzis?[/QUOTE]Yes, Anja is very playful and sometimes even too much that she gives the impression she is not up to a session. The short hair brunette is called Becky, very busy girl in the club, but she sits in many different places as far as I could see.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2350256]Yes, Anja is very playful and sometimes even too much that she gives the impression she is not up to a session.
The short hair brunette is called Becky, very busy girl in the club, but she sits in many different places as far as I could see.[/QUOTE]Is she very slim with no ass, sometimes with kind of fishnet?

I had been with Melissa in Oase and Sharks. She is indeed very pretty and can give good service when she wants to, which in her case is anytime she gets paid a good amount. In her early days she was at normal prices. I never paid more than 100 for an hour, but looking back I think I did take her at least for an hour every time I was with her. This 100 for 30 M or 150 for an hour price from her is an unwelcome development. I missed her in my recent trips. I do not know if she will still give me 100 for an hour or demand 50 more for kissing and BBBJ etc. If she does, I will pass. While I had been with 4 to 5 times, that is not enough to consider her a regular yet and I don't think it was enough for her to stay loyal to me and provide me a good service for 100 an hour. I am hoping she will still be nice but if she demands extra money such as 150 an hour, I will pass. She is pretty of course but not enough to break my discipline.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2350461]Is she very slim with no ass, sometimes with kind of fishnet?[/QUOTE]Yes, she's very slim but not too skinny like Paloma. Perfectly shaped boobs and she wears an open bra made of black crossed strings. She also does not smile a lot. Unfortunately I didn't have the chance to go with her.

Please help me to identify Sharks veteran.

Tall slim brunette with long hair. Very big eyes. Big breasts, like E-cup, that look way tired and hanging down way too low for overall looks of the girl. Some touch of silicone would definitely improve them.

I see this girl almost every time I'm in Sharks for last 3 years. She mostly hangs at the bar, on the side close to eating area. Most likely Ro, most likely 28-32 YO.

I never tried her and wonder if anyone can provide some feedback about her services.

Thanks in advance!

Please help me to identify Sharks veteran.

Tall slim brunette with long hair. Very big eyes. Big breasts, like E-cup, that look way tired and hanging down way too low for overall looks of the girl. Some touch of silicone would definitely improve them.

I see this girl almost every time I'm in Sharks for last 3 years. She mostly hangs at the bar, on the side close to eating area. Most likely Ro, most likely 28-32 YO.

I never tried her and wonder if anyone can provide some feedback about her services.

Thanks in advance!

Sounds like Brenda from the eyes and the tits.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2350774]Sounds like Brenda from the eyes and the tits.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I've searched for Brenda name hare and seems like it's her. Big "froggish" eyes, big mouth.

Feedback are different. Anyone sessioned with her lately? How was it?

I'll be in Sharks from tomorrow till Saturday.

Are Zeinab, Venus, Ester or Karla in the current LU?

Also any recommendations of good service providers currently available in Sharks are much appreciated. Who are shooting stars worth having fun with here and now?

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350718]Please help me to identify Sharks veteran.

Tall slim brunette with long hair. Very big eyes. Big breasts, like E-cup, that look way tired and hanging down way too low for overall looks of the girl. Some touch of silicone would definitely improve them.

I see this girl almost every time I'm in Sharks for last 3 years. She mostly hangs at the bar, on the side close to eating area. Most likely Ro, most likely 28-32 YO.

I never tried her and wonder if anyone can provide some feedback about her services.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Sounds like Deleek (no clue how to spell her name). I sessioned with her a a few times years ago. I enjoyed the optics, but service was just average. Not the most cheerful or chatty lady. She did do what I wanted though, and I finished satisfied.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350795]Thank you! I've searched for Brenda name hare and seems like it's her. Big "froggish" eyes, big mouth.

Feedback are different. Anyone sessioned with her lately? How was it?[/QUOTE]Brenda is not 30 yet, more about close to 25.

Ester was not seen on last Friday, only Karin. Also sisters Elif and Amalia, and Sabina and Alina ex World.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2350670]I had been with Melissa in Oase and Sharks. She is indeed very pretty and can give good service when she wants to, which in her case is anytime she gets paid a good amount. In her early days she was at normal prices. I never paid more than 100 for an hour, but looking back I think I did take her at least for an hour every time I was with her. This 100 for 30 M or 150 for an hour price from her is an unwelcome development. I missed her in my recent trips. I do not know if she will still give me 100 for an hour or demand 50 more for kissing and BBBJ etc. If she does, I will pass. While I had been with 4 to 5 times, that is not enough to consider her a regular yet and I don't think it was enough for her to stay loyal to me and provide me a good service for 100 an hour. I am hoping she will still be nice but if she demands extra money such as 150 an hour, I will pass. She is pretty of course but not enough to break my discipline.[/QUOTE]Among very average casting at Sharks, Melissa is above even I don t run for fake red hair she is now, when I like redhead with milky skin even bitter cyprine taste. Her face is not exceptional for me but she is honest, she tells her rate before going, she is honest in room, she doesn't speak about money in bed, she is higher level to chat than average, she tries to please, but really nothing wow for sensuality for sex, she does the job, a bit in German way: technique, but lack of emotion, lack of fire, which make me return. Very difficult for me to find attractive girls and only 1 would be enough for me, but Nana, Cristina, Angela, ex Larissa LR, Latvian Marina, are more interesting for woman in bed. My subjective tastes and experiences of course.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350835]I'll be in Sharks from tomorrow till Saturday.

Are Zeinab, Venus, Ester or Karla in the current LU?

Also any recommendations of good service providers currently available in Sharks are much appreciated. Who are shooting stars worth having fun with here and now?[/QUOTE]I guess many users are going to recommend the obvious good providers at Sharks soon. That is why I will tell you about a hidden gem of mine first, that is rarely talked about on the forums but gives an excellent GFE for 50/30, no matter how long you want to session with her: Eleonora, Romanian, very small, black hair, sits at the first spot on the couch left of the stairs to the jacuzzis. She is very charming, funny and easy to talk to, especially once you get to know her. She is already in her late twenties and her body cannot compete with the top beauties of the club, but her service is really top notch.

Also I have always received good service from Sidonia (Ro, blonde, middle of bar next to the restaurant area), Zeynep (who you mentioned), Elena (Ro, dark brown hair, sits on the couch under the fishtank), Anja / Mirona (Albanian flag tattoo between her shoulder plates, sits on the couch opposite of the pole by the entrance or at one of the casino machines). They all provide good service for 50/30 in my experience.

More expensive girls who I can recommend. If you want to spend that much- are Melissa (tall, red hair, great beauty, you cannot miss her) and Bella (Ro, black hair, tanned skin, sits opposite to the stairs to jacuzzi and opposite to fishtank) who both provide good service for 100/30 or 150/60.

These recommendations are of course only based on my personal experiences with the girls. You might not get the same experience, if the chemistry between you does not fit or maybe they do not fit your beauty criterias anyway. Have fun!

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350835]I'll be in Sharks from tomorrow till Saturday.

Are Zeinab, Venus, Ester or Karla in the current LU?

Also any recommendations of good service providers currently available in Sharks are much appreciated. Who are shooting stars worth having fun with here and now?[/QUOTE]Confirm lovely Zeynep at Shark recent, however she very busy and little chance with her.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350795]Thank you! I've searched for Brenda name hare and seems like it's her. Big "froggish" eyes, big mouth.

Feedback are different. Anyone sessioned with her lately? How was it?[/QUOTE]Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350719]Please help me to identify Sharks veteran.

Tall slim brunette with long hair. Very big eyes. Big breasts, like E-cup, that look way tired and hanging down way too low for overall looks of the girl. Some touch of silicone would definitely improve them.

I see this girl almost every time I'm in Sharks for last 3 years. She mostly hangs at the bar, on the side close to eating area. Most likely Ro, most likely 28-32 YO.

I never tried her and wonder if anyone can provide some feedback about her services.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I like Brenda's breasts just as they are. I hope she does not spoil them with silicone. Brenda prefers a EUR100/1 HR session. However, for me she cannot take a good pounding. She complained during my last session with her. For guys who engage in average sex there would be no problem. BBBJ, DATY, CFS.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2350835]I'll be in Sharks from tomorrow till Saturday.

Are Zeinab, Venus, Ester or Karla in the current LU?

Also any recommendations of good service providers currently available in Sharks are much appreciated. Who are shooting stars worth having fun with here and now?[/QUOTE]I only know Zeyneb. She was there last weekend. Got to love that girl!

Day 1.

Becky. Ro, slim brunette, short hair, eyes tattooed on upper chest. Good and fair service. BBBJ. 50.

Brenda (yes, it was Brenda I've asked about). Much better than I expected. Started to complain at the end, but it was funny, not annoying. BBBJ. 50.

Lena Ro brunette with silicones + Miruna Alb with flag. Good fun session. BBBJ. 50+50.

Ella. Ro, brunette, doesn't speak English, 19 YO. Zero professionalism but very authentic. It felt like her first time. Somewhat interesting, but almost perverted. BBBJ. 50+50 CIM.

Zeinab was there and mostly available. Esther's new boobs are not exactly beautiful. Surgeon should pay her money back.

Was attacked several times by old lady who looks luke Karl Lagerfeld and Donatella Versace.)

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351182]Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.[/QUOTE]Do you really believe from Greece? Maybe only for back door? I always thought from Mongolia for face. I thought she got busy business at Sharks, maybe not enough tourists?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2351283]Do you really believe from Greece? Maybe only for back door? I always thought from Mongolia for face. I thought she got busy business at Sharks, maybe not enough tourists?[/QUOTE]May be it is true, I was one of her first customer at Shark, we spoke about Athen were she was doing escort, but we all know that never never believe one word from a prostitute if you want to keep safe.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2351281]Day 1.

Becky. Ro, slim brunette, short hair, eyes tattooed on upper chest. Good and fair service. BBBJ. 50.

Brenda (yes, it was Brenda I've asked about). Much better than I expected. Started to complain at the end, but it was funny, not annoying. BBBJ. 50.

Lena Ro brunette with silicones + Miruna Alb with flag. Good fun session. BBBJ. 50+50.

Ella. Ro, brunette, doesn't speak English, 19 YO. Zero professionalism but very authentic. It felt like her first time. Somewhat interesting, but almost perverted. BBBJ. 50+50 CIM.

Zeinab was there and mostly available. Esther's new boobs are not exactly beautiful. Surgeon should pay her money back.

Was attacked several times by old lady who looks luke Karl Lagerfeld and Donatella Versace.)[/QUOTE]Where does stay this Becky? Usually girls stay around same place at Sharks, except marathon woman Sylvana. I saw Sylvana companionship almost whole night, with a bottle, on my last visit, incredible, she must have a secret and I pretty sure she was not for free.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351182]Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.[/QUOTE]Why would you spend 3 hours with a someone who is very pro and gives zero illusion?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2351321]Why would you spend 3 hours with a someone who is very pro and gives zero illusion?[/QUOTE]Or I spend 1 minute in the room and leave and of course will never repeat give 50 to the girl, or if I think the chemistry is good and I extend to several hours. I was wrong with Brenda, 3 hours is just the cost of 1 hour escort and also it gives a chance to the girl to really feel comfortable.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2351068]I guess many users are going to recommend the obvious good providers at Sharks soon. That is why I will tell you about a hidden gem of mine first, that is rarely talked about on the forums but gives an excellent GFE for 50/30, no matter how long you want to session with her: Eleonora, Romanian, very small, black hair, sits at the first spot on the couch left of the stairs to the jacuzzis. She is very charming, funny and easy to talk to, especially once you get to know her. She is already in her late twenties and her body cannot compete with the top beauties of the club, but her service is really top notch.

Also I have always received good service from Sidonia (Ro, blonde, middle of bar next to the restaurant area), Zeynep (who you mentioned), Elena (Ro, dark brown hair, sits on the couch under the fishtank), Anja / Mirona (Albanian flag tattoo between her shoulder plates, sits on the couch opposite of the pole by the entrance or at one of the casino machines). They all provide good service for 50/30 in my experience.

More expensive girls who I can recommend. If you want to spend that much- are Melissa (tall, red hair, great beauty, you cannot miss her) and Bella (Ro, black hair, tanned skin, sits opposite to the stairs to jacuzzi and opposite to fishtank) who both provide good service for 100/30 or 150/60.

These recommendations are of course only based on my personal experiences with the girls. You might not get the same experience, if the chemistry between you does not fit or maybe they do not fit your beauty criterias anyway. Have fun![/QUOTE]Did Eleanor improve for kissing? Like a little girl when she just arrived, I would say on 2017. Lack of aura, not woman behavior in bed and nothing about height, but not interesting for me. Elena under fish, has beautiful eyes, smiling, but what about body always under towel, silicon? At least we can see Karin beautiful natural tits, even she hides her curvy woman popo.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2351281]Esther's new boobs are not exactly beautiful. Surgeon should pay her money back.[/QUOTE]I support this observation!

My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2351281]Was attacked several times by old lady who looks like Karl Lagerfeld and Donatella Versace.)[/QUOTE]Her name: Silvana, sometimes Donatella (in other places).

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2351396]I support this observation!

My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!.[/QUOTE]Esther actually lost 2-3 kilos since I saw her in May, but boobs shape is a huge mistake. Looks like someone was training on her with no success. She needs ones like Jessica has for example. Also her lips are bigger than before and she probably lost one of her upper teeth as much as I had a chance to see during small chat.

Still I somewhat like her. She's originally beautiful and it's not entirely spoiled yet.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2351396]I support this observation!

My observation: in many cases, when girls get new boobs (often enhanced beyond good proportions), the rest of the body parts say (and do): we want to get bigger too!

Her name: Silvana, sometimes Donatella (in other places).[/QUOTE]Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.

Sylvana, sometimes Donatella.

Terrible experience to get hunt by her, she looks like a grandma and even for 1000+ euros I will never even kiss or touch her. I think she worked in all the clubs in Germany, a real erotic killer.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2350252]After a mind blowing, 3 h (very expensive!) escort booking in my hotel room on Saturday evening, which kept a smile on my face for many hours after that, I woke up on Sunday morning with the hitch to go over to Darmstadt again and pay Sharks crowd a new visit.

I arrived at Sharks at 13:56, so I only paid 50 E for the entrance. LU wasn't as good as on Wednesday, but the club was rather full of mongers. So, even average girls managed to get a few zimmers! I have seen Sylvana doing at least three sessions. Unbelievable, I know, but we are living in a Trump & Brexit crazy times after all!

Theodora (Ro) - Started my day with a session with blonde, white skin, nice tits, Theodora (Ro), relatively new at Sharks and previously worked in Stuttgart. She is not a top beauty, but I wasn't looking for that as I had a perfect beauty the day before in my room. Theodora is very sweet and she also has nice eyes and natural nice boobs. CBJ only on the menu, but I was ok with it. Lovely session overall (50 E 30 min)..[/QUOTE]Hi Rocky,

Thanks for the report on Sharks. Your writings are always very informative. But I was more tingling with your short mention from this expensive escort. Do you mind telling us more about this escort here or somewhere else in the Frankfurt part on this forum? Where could we find her?

Thanks in advance!

Hessenstud.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2351383]Did Eleanor improve for kissing? Like a little girl when she just arrived, I would say on 2017. Lack of aura, not woman behavior in bed and nothing about height, but not interesting for me. Elena under fish, has beautiful eyes, smiling, but what about body always under towel, silicon? At least we can see Karin beautiful natural tits, even she hides her curvy woman popo.[/QUOTE]Eleonora: I like her kissing a lot. But I guess it depends on the guy. So I would say, if she doesn't know you well, it might not be different than what you experienced before.

Elena: no silicone that I know of. Would have to be a very recent operation. No idea why she wears the towel.

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2351491]Eleonora: I like her kissing a lot. But I guess it depends on the guy. So I would say, if she doesn't know you well, it might not be different than what you experienced before.

Elena: no silicone that I know of. Would have to be a very recent operation. No idea why she wears the towel.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure we speak about same way and level for kissing, I don't enjoy Romanian baby kisses, I enjoy woman behavior and sensuality. For sure, not firm body for Elena even maybe the prettiest face at Sharks for me. Her face on Melissa body with Angela behavior and Marina vagina would be attractive and interesting in bed, with a bit of chic and charm learned.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351294]May be it is true, I was one of her first customer at Shark, we spoke about Athen were she was doing escort, but we all know that never never believe one word from a prostitute if you want to keep safe.[/QUOTE]More escorting than born as Aphrodite. I had for weekly regular for months at LR and she always chose me first, but a queen of lies, even honest about money and real pleasure in bed.

[QUOTE=Hessenstud;2351439]Hi Rocky,

Thanks for the report on Sharks. Your writings are always very informative. But I was more tingling with your short mention from this expensive escort. Do you mind telling us more about this escort here or somewhere else in the Frankfurt part on this forum? Where could we find her?

Thanks in advance!

Hessenstud.[/QUOTE]So many escort agencies in F or you just have a look on Kaufmich, you just have to call them or send a message, so easy make your own experience and don't be a follower.

Day 2.

Hot and lazy day on the poolside, mostly watching Albana / Miruna and her friends playing in water.

Surprisingly only 1 session.

Sia, Albanian, lots of tattoos (mostly with F*CK YOU writings). Lots of piercings. Brunette with great body and face. Bad facial skin. In essence, 100% "Bad girl" porno look. I don't like bad facial skin but couldn't resist the overall temptation.

100/30, but was worth it. Would probably repeat.

Lady with Karl Lagerfeld look was all over the place again for a whole day. Lot of energy.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351420]Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.[/QUOTE]For who knows a bit about Sharks History, among a far higher level casting than now, on 2014, with her beautiful small tits, Roxana was a superstar, she was my first Sharks girl, before Dina, Andrea. Bu, Cosmina, Marina, Jana. Hu later. After silicon, she became less busy, really not busy on August 2017 among a great casting at Wellcum. At. I always told to Megan: You don't need silicon. Good point she can't do at Globe, she would be fired, and she really doesn't need.

You are right with Kaufmich. But escort is not a normal WG in FKK (50 Euro per try), a stunning escort would charge at least 150 Euro, and no guarantee from the service quality f. Mr. Rocky spent 3 hours with lady and was quite happy with her, I would say this lady must be an angel, we don't have to take the risk to try others, let alone the saving of money and time. Hope Mr. Rocky can share some details about that experience here or on the panel for Frankfurt on this forum.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351560]So many escort agencies in F or you just have a look on Kaufmich, you just have to call them or send a message, so easy make your own experience and don't be a follower.[/QUOTE]

Day 3.

1. Vanessa Ro, tall brunette, long hair, 21 YO. 100/30.

Not worth 100 at all. Even tried to start BJ with condom. Usual 50 Eur service for 100. No regrets as I liked the optics, but can't recommend her.

2. Miina Ro + Inca Ro. I had both before, but as both of them remind me my ex-girlfriends, I found it funny to combine them. Good session with lots of stand-up comedy from Miina (as always).

3. Sia dirty looking Ro again. 100/30.

Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.

I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.

I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351420]Most of the times the sili boobs are not looking natural, also not stable in the time and when you touch them it is terrible at least for me, I never session a girl with sili, botox, hair extension.[/QUOTE]The worst part about sili boobs is that the girls don't like them to be molested which I like to do.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2351910]Day 3.

3. Sia dirty looking Ro again. 100/30.

Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.

I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.

I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.[/QUOTE]Ouch! Not fun. I know what that feels like. I had a broken condom incident at Sharks a couple of years ago, the girl got very upset and claimed I had done it on purpose. I calmed her down. Worried a bit afterwards, then went and took all the tests. Luckily I hadn't caught anything.

I recommend you not to worry, but also definitely to go and get tested for STDs to be completely safe. The risk is small. Just take the tests so that you can relax and forget about it. You will be fine!

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2351910]Day 3.

Good session that was unfortunately spoiled by broken condom which I didn't notice right away but only after a while. Having this happening in the club is a nightmare. Having this happening with dirtiest looking girl in the club doesn't make it any better.

I peed several times in a short time, I washed, but I don't know how much it can help if girl has some really bad disease.

I really hope these girls are testing their health often and I really hope I will not die from something terrible as a result.[/QUOTE]Alex,

Calm down and get fully tested in about a week and then again after three months, for your peace of mind. In Germany regular health checks are not enforced by the authorities and I know for a fact that many girls in the clubs are not even registered. Most of the STDs, however, are easily treatable if diagnosed early.

Once and old monger told me not to go with girls, who frequently touch their pussies as itching can be a sign of infection or poor hygiene. He also told me to have a look at the colour of their pussies before the session. If pink it is probably safe, if very red it can be a sign of infection or overfucking!

Stay safe! Rock.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2351182]Sessioned her 1 time, not interesting at all, very pro, very clean may be too clean, she gave me 0 illusion in a 3 hours session. Elektra the other big boobed from Greece is now at Artemis saw her last time, also a no go for me.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2060940&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2060940.

Haha IMHO I recommend her back to the escort world for easy money from tourists. She had worked as an escort in UK.

FKK land maybe a hard place for some optics.

Cool I think never meet her in Artemis. In 2nd Mon of Jun, I visited this big house and not find her. The rooms have no light at least. Darker than Paradise. Why I paid this dark tax for my optics sex?

Anyway I had some outdoor houses with her in 2017 & 2018 summer. In 2017 she had just worked in Sharks around 3 months. She could offer BBBJ and CIM for 150 E. Sadly clean. No DATY. No kiss. Talkative.

In 2018 she became very very clean. Cool. Not nice. A 100 E short house for her optics. No BBBJ offered. My FKK spec is any lookalike thick hourglass with great natural boobs in cheap fuck rate.

If she could really offer HQ escort services, I may pay like other hot escorts toured in HK.

[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2352190][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3225-FKK-Sharks-Darmstadt&p=2060940&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2060940.

Haha IMHO I recommend her back to the escort world for easy money from tourists. She had worked as an escort in UK.

FKK land maybe a hard place for some optics.

Cool I think never meet her in Artemis. In 2nd Mon of Jun, I visited this big house and not find her. The rooms have no light at least. Darker than Paradise. Why I paid this dark tax for my optics sex?

Anyway I had some outdoor houses with her in 2017 & 2018 summer. In 2017 she had just worked in Sharks around 3 months. She could offer BBBJ and CIM for 150 E. Sadly clean. No DATY. No kiss. Talkative.

In 2018 she became very very clean. Cool. Not nice. A 100 E short house for her optics. No BBBJ offered. My FKK spec is any lookalike thick hourglass with great natural boobs in cheap fuck rate.

If she could really offer HQ escort services, I may pay like other hot escorts toured in HK.[/QUOTE]Usually she was also not working on Monday at Shark.

The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.

When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave.

Only had one session, with little Ada from Romania. Glasses, good looking silicone tits, a cheeky smile and a good attitude. She remembered me from a previous visit when we talked for a long time. Some language difficulties, but hey, those tits more than compensated for that. I was in the pool when she spotted me and after just a few words I felt a submarine threat approaching. It was my periscope which threatened to rise. To avoid embarrassment (there was a German gentleman in the pool too) I decided to act pre-emptively before onset of glorious erection, and rushed up from the water and took little Ada to one of the little huts on the upper floor.

The sexytime was better than anticipated; she began by pouring oil over her big tits and I helped her oil them up real good. She then introduced my friend to the oiled-up twins and BJ etc followed. Very nice start. Her pussy was very good looking and felt great too. It got quite intense for a while when we kissed as I pounded her in missionary and I left the room with a big smile on my face.

It seems as if the girls are gossiping like crazy about guys in the club, apparently they talked about me as the hopeless guy who is not interested in sex. Yeah right. What do they expect? Me fucking all girls in the club? Ridiculous. Of course I need to deny all girls except the ones I decide to go with. I am trying to say no in nice ways but that seems to irritate them, but the problem is that being direct with them has the same effect. Clearly I need to work on the development of a more effective shark repellent!

It was a Sunday so there were less girls and visitors than on Saturdays, no surprise there. Still a good number of girls, but for my taste the quality was so-so. Only a handful of girls in the whole club were interesting for me. Poor shark-to-hottie ratio. Still, I understand why Sharks is popular and I will come back for more in the near future.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2352351]The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.

When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave..[/QUOTE]Good report dude.

I wonder if that is the same Ada I saw on my first trip to sharks, over a year ago. She was pretty low energy in the room then, but very friendly. If so, glad to hear she has figured things out.

[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2352351]The day after my visit to The Palace I chose to go to Sharks, simply because it was a Sunday and I thought the larger club would give me more options.

When I arrived at 7 pm I felt the mood was kind of low, not many smiling faces and everyone looked tired. This was temporary though, as the hours went by more people arrived and the place became more lively. There was a good number of girls present but, as has been the case every time that I visited Sharks, most were Romanians who were not to my taste. I agree with Sirioja, that the girls at The Palace are a bit more classy on average. That said, I saw at least one beauty; a tall blonde with a sad and bored look. Sadly, I spotted her just before I needed to leave..[/QUOTE]With entry 50 before 2 pm on Sunday, Sharks used to be quite crowded at 2 pm on Sunday, but maybe holidays time or rain like in Hockenheim ring on south, and also unfortunately real lack of chic and charm for casting, yes more elegance and charm at Palace, and these girls don't worth same rate for me. I would be so happy to find only one chic and what I call GFE, beauty at Sharks which is a good club for me, with a beautiful garden and good breakfast. Time is long since last on June 2018. Maybe after my holidays when Swiss quality or Wellcum. At will be closer.

After reading great reviews here, paid visit last week to the place. Wend during weekday early afternoon. Place is clean and very nice. It was quite busy also both indoor and outdoor. Good thing was there were a lot of girls there. Went with petite Romanian (name escapes me) but I think she is the only one with small tits (which I like).

Went for an hour, she was very GFE, very tight, allowed 2 shots which I was surprised that I was able to do. Will repeat next week if time permits.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2352371]Good report dude.

I wonder if that is the same Ada I saw on my first trip to sharks, over a year ago. She was pretty low energy in the room then, but very friendly. If so, glad to hear she has figured things out.[/QUOTE]There was very slim, but not so small, 1,65, Ada, friend with Diana who had superb pear shape natural tits. This Ada is back.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2348988]Great, you are going to FKK Sharks or Oase. I'm Asian American too.

I live on the West Coast and use to go to Tijuana, Mexico, a lot. However, going to Tijuana, can be a little dangerous and you never know what you are going to get. Also, you have to pay the girl before you have sex. Many women have had babies and might find a big see section scar or some other distraction.

Frankfurt FKK clubs are like going go the Playboy mansion except you encounter 100+ beautiful totally nude women that want you to spend money on them. The women range from a few totally awesome stunners to many girl next door.

Because you speak English, you will not have any problems communicating. Most of the women speak English well. You are a magnet because you are Asian, the girl especially if she is blonde will think you will go crazy for her and spend extra money on her.[/QUOTE]Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?

Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?

I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.

And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?

Thanks everyone!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2352687]There was very slim, but not so small, 1,65, Ada, friend with Diana who had superb pear shape natural tits. This Ada is back.[/QUOTE]Is the Ada who is back the one who went to History? That one was very slim, but about 1.70 rather than 1.65, and with sharp canines.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2352747]Is the Ada who is back the one who went to History? That one was very slim, but about 1.68 rather than 1.65, and with sharp canines.[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw her not long ago, I think beginning of July, but no Diana. I meant height bare feet. Also saw previous Cosmina.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2352710]Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?

Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?

I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.

And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?

Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]Can anyone who has recently been to FKK clubs please advise me. Do any of them do much to guarantee a GFE instead of a business transaction with their workers?

Once control passes to a third party you lose your ability to weed out hard core girls and girls who just want to take your money with no good service needed.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2352710]Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive.

And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?

Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.

If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2352799]If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.

If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.[/QUOTE]You can also stay in b&b Darmstadt, clean simple Hotel with great WiFi, near the railway station and very easy to walk to the club, for Oase I usually stay in be&be F North also at walkable distance to the club. All be&be hotels have A / C.

[QUOTE=HeadFirst80;2352537]After reading great reviews here, paid visit last week to the place. Wend during weekday early afternoon. Place is clean and very nice. It was quite busy also both indoor and outdoor. Good thing was there were a lot of girls there. Went with petite Romanian (name escapes me) but I think she is the only one with small tits (which I like).

Went for an hour, she was very GFE, very tight, allowed 2 shots which I was surprised that I was able to do. Will repeat next week if time permits.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Jennifer; long blonde hair, always wears a towel.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2352799]If you are going to sharks, Maritim hotel or best western are great as they are close to the railways station and 12 euro Uber to sharks.

If you go to Oase, Mercury hotel are another that starts with a are good.[/QUOTE]Closest for Sharks is Contel Hotel, about 300 meters, can just walk 3 mn. I

[QUOTE=TurdyCurdyOne;2352767]Can anyone who has recently been to FKK clubs please advise me. Do any of them do much to guarantee a GFE instead of a business transaction with their workers?

Once control passes to a third party you lose your ability to weed out hard core girls and girls who just want to take your money with no good service needed.[/QUOTE]Many of your answers are in the posts under various 'clubs' if you just read through a bit. Basically NO! No one ever guarantees anything, even with a girl who has a great review. It's always YMMV based on how her day went, who the last guy was, and how YOU act. I posted on Coliseum my beginngers report.

1) 3 guys who are "newbies" are like chum to sharks. On the one hand, you have a sidekick to help you deflect the bad and someone to talk to when you can't decide why every girl in the club thinks you guys are easy marks. Clubs like Augsburg's Coliseum don't allow girls to approach guys so at least from that perspective- you can stand at the bar with 2 other guys and debate which girl to go up and talk to.

2). $$ €€ There's a lot of info on what you'd pay if you (again) read the reports. Even in clubs where the guys report MSOG there are girls who just don't care? If you book 30 minutes, you'll be one and done. For an hour, you can suppose if you start quick (or better end quickly), the girl expects you to try a second. If you go on a Saturday night, expect she's trying to move you out and get to the next wallet.

3) Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate. If you want multiple, and you want kissing, and you want (ask before you go up to the room. You are more likely to get it on a week day if the club is slow. Rather than at peak time.

And most important.

45) when you come back, tell us what you found out.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2352710]Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?

Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?

I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.

And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?

Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]Only two nights in Frankfurt, I will stay close to central main train station where you can go to both Oase and Sharks by train. Just need to get train schedule though.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2352848]Closest for Sharks is Contel Hotel, about 300 meters, can just walk 3 mn. I[/QUOTE]Keep in mind it has no A/C and is extremely overpriced considering the overall level. Breakfast is ridiculous. Been there, will only repeat if no other options are available.

I would definitely recommend Hotel Jagdschloss Kranichstein. Nice place to stay, same price level as Contel, great breakfast, taxi to Sharks is 15-20 EUR. Whole different experience comparing to Contel where you feel you are living in Bosnia.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2353015]Keep in mind it has no A/C and is extremely overpriced considering the overall level. Breakfast is ridiculous. Been there, will only repeat if no other options are available.

I would definitely recommend Hotel Jagdschloss Kranichstein. Nice place to stay, same price level as Contel, great breakfast, taxi to Sharks is 15-20 EUR. Whole different experience comparing to Contel where you feel you are living in Bosnia.[/QUOTE]Comtel is a bad hotel, I guy told me the went bankrupt, com nothing positive to stay there again completely outdated, overpriced.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2352710]Thank you to all who gave me great advice! I'm excited to go in August! It' sounds like its going to be a lot of fun and very expensive. I'm seeing that your going to spend 100 30 minutes every time?

Do the girls allow 2 shots if you paid for an hour but finish in like 15 minutes? Haha how does that work? If you finish then your times up? Or do you get to go until the time over?

I can't figure out if I want to go with that FKK tour or do it myself with my 2 buddies.

And where is the best place to stay if I'm staying in F for 2 nights?

Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]Asian Bruddah,

The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.

Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.

The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.

Since this will be your first time at FKK, when the Receptionist asks, "Is this your first time, Say YES. " She will tell you the rate for sex. She will tell you about the bracelet with the key. At Sharks, the bracelet has RFD to track if you buy a beer or other alcohol drink. Then she will have someone show you the small locker for your wallet and take you to the main locker area for you to change and shower. When the working girl asks you, "Is this your first time, Say, "You have been to many FKK. " Then ask, "How long have you been working here?

NOTE: Once you are in the room, Before you start having sex, look at your watch and know the time you start! That way will know how much time you've spent with her when you cum. I've had a few girls try to scam me. One terrible girl I should not have picked told me we I was in the room for 40 minutes. She must've thought I was FOB, (fresh off the boat). I told her, "I Know I have spent 20 minutes in the room. " "I looked at my watch when we started. " I was mad but I told myself, "Cut your loss. " Then she got scared and asked me if I was going to complain to management at the front desk. I just gave her 50 euros at the wallet locker and walked away.

As the other guys have written, don't be in rush to pick a girl. Enjoy talking to the girls, eat some food, enjoy the jacuzzi, swimming pool and sauna. There will be other guys that speak English and trade stories.

FKK in Frankfurt is not hard to navigate. All the Frankfurt taxi drivers can drive to FKK Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan and Palace from 20-50 Euros (one way). You don't need to go with FKK tour. FKK tour is not Cheap.

I like to sleep in Frankfurt near the train station. I have stayed at Frankfurt hostel and Five Element hostel for $20 a night. Check Expedia and book your hotel online. Not fun to be jet lagged and cannot find a room. If you are with your friends, get a room with 2-3 beds. A single room will cost about $45-65 per night. When you share your room, it will be cheaper.

The clubs open at 11 AM. Try to get the Oase or Sharks around 1 PM and leave the club around 9-10 PM. The slowest days are Monday and Tuesday. Tuesday is Bikini day at Sharks and Thursday at Oase. The rest of the week the girls are totally nude in the club. Once at Oase, the weather was very warm at night and it was the prefect party atmosphere in the swimming pool. I did not want to go to back to Frankfurt so I stayed all Night until 5 AM. I took the train back then. I was very tired but I had a Big Smile on my face.

[URL]https://www.rmv.de/auskunft/bin/jp/query.exe/en[/URL]

RMV is the local Frankfurt train website. Use it to go between Frankfurt Airport and Frankfurt Main train station, Friedrichsdorf train station (Oase) and Darmstadt train station (Sharks).

Have fun!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2353124]Comtel is a bad hotel, I guy told me the went bankrupt, com nothing positive to stay there again completely outdated, overpriced.[/QUOTE]Stayed there on night. Totally waste. I always stay in Maritim near train station. Although it looks outdated outside, but it is pretty new inside.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2353426]Asian Bruddah,

The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.

Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.

The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.[/QUOTE]From my experience, natural BJ remain quite standard without upselling at Sharks or Oase or World.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2353426]Asian Bruddah,

The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.

Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.

The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.[/QUOTE]I forgot to the Add, the Upsell: 50 euro if you cum in her mouth, face or body. 100 euro if you do anal sex.

Have fun and write your report.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2353426]Asian Bruddah,

The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.

Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.

The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage.

Since this will be your first time at FKK, when the Receptionist asks, "Is this your first time, Say YES. " She will tell you the rate for sex. She will tell you about the bracelet with the key. At Sharks, the bracelet has RFD to track if you buy a beer or other alcohol drink. Then she will have someone show you the small locker for your wallet and take you to the main locker area for you to change and shower. When the working girl asks you, "Is this your first time, Say, "You have been to many FKK. " Then ask, "How long have you been working here?

NOTE: Once you are in the room, Before you start having sex, look at your watch and know the time you start! That way will know how much time you've spent with her when you cum. I've had a few girls try to scam me. One terrible girl I should not have picked told me we I was in the room for 40 minutes. She must've thought I was FOB, (fresh off the boat). I told her, "I Know I have spent 20 minutes in the room. " "I looked at my watch when we started. " I was mad but I told myself, "Cut your loss. " Then she got scared and asked me if I was going to complain to management at the front desk. I just gave her 50 euros at the wallet locker and walked away.[/QUOTE]I think this is an excellent report for first time visitors and should be sticky somewhere.

Well done, congrats!

I just want to add that I don't recommend threesome. Many girls will come holding hand each other and seduce you to take both. Every time I try it one of the girls is not experienced and she is new. Usually one experienced cat brings in the new pussy to show her how the job is done and help her on her first steps. How sweet!

It ends up to a waste of money.

Also something else very important.

Depending if you are a day guy or a night guy organise the time of your visit. If you never stay awake from 1. Am - 5 am don't expect to go there and rabbit fuck at 3 am with the girls.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2353452]Stayed there on night. Totally waste. I always stay in Maritim near train station. Although it looks outdated outside, but it is pretty new inside.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true. Terrible service, terrible facility with no A/C and no Fan. Beds are so soft that I was in a great deal of pain when I got up from the bed in the morning.

But, it is really nice to get from there to sharks in the morning. Location is perfect!

Was in Sharks on Tuesday this week for a relaxed time at the pool and to see my favourites before they go into summer vacation. The club was quite and the atmosphere relaxed as can be expected for a Tuesday.

Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness. We stayed outside in one of the beds with curtains which are a good place with the warm weather. Zeynep recovered from some hard time she had and provided the services I like from her, so we spent longer together.

Fun was the performance after midnight when a girls birthday started and her friends brought a pro stripper to the club for her. Girls were excited.

[QUOTE=PPan31;2353664] Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness.[/QUOTE]Did you get kisses from Zeynep?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2353495]From my experience, natural BJ remain quite standard without upselling at Sharks or Oase or World.[/QUOTE]Sirioja,

You are very experienced and with many women. You can tell just by watching the woman walk, talk and her body language.

I only wanted to provide general information for newbies since the Law was changed in 2017.

Aloha.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2353533]I think this is an excellent report for first time visitors and should be sticky somewhere.

Well done, congrats!

I just want to add that I don't recommend threesome. Many girls will come holding hand each other and seduce you to take both. Every time I try it one of the girls is not experienced and she is new. Usually one experienced cat brings in the new pussy to show her how the job is done and help her on her first steps. How sweet!

It ends up to a waste of money.

Also something else very important.

Depending if you are a day guy or a night guy organise the time of your visit. If you never stay awake from 1. Am - 5 am don't expect to go there and rabbit fuck at 3 am with the girls.[/QUOTE]Pks,

Thanks for the acknowledgment.

Aloha.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2353629]But, it is really nice to get from there to sharks in the morning. Location is perfect![/QUOTE]Even nicer to be able to stumble back to Contel after a long night, and plop into bed within 8 minutes from leaving Sharks.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2353769]Did you get kisses from Zeynep?[/QUOTE]I did not get any because I refused to pay 50 euros more.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2353769]Did you get kisses from Zeynep?[/QUOTE]Why do you ask about that?

Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session — all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.

[QUOTE=PPan31;2353664]..........had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. [/QUOTE]Could you share your experience with Edina, please?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2353897]Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.[/QUOTE]Hey Pessimist,

Could you please share where she sits and perhaps a bit of her physical description? I have heard so much about her and I'm a bit surprised I still haven't met her.

PPan31: what summer vacation were you referring to?

I should be arriving in Frankfurt by August 26th for a week.

Should I be expecting an upcoming vacation and a poor LU?

[QUOTE=PPan31;2353664]Was in Sharks on Tuesday this week for a relaxed time at the pool and to see my favourites before they go into summer vacation. The club was quite and the atmosphere relaxed as can be expected for a Tuesday.

Had two sessions, with Zeynep and Edina. Zeynep gave me a good time with her sweetness. We stayed outside in one of the beds with curtains which are a good place with the warm weather. Zeynep recovered from some hard time she had and provided the services I like from her, so we spent longer together.

Fun was the performance after midnight when a girls birthday started and her friends brought a pro stripper to the club for her. Girls were excited.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pistons;2353875]Why do you ask about that?[/QUOTE]Because I'm curious. Is it an unusual question?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2353897]Zeynep does kiss. I have been with her at least 5 times and kissing has never been a problem. She is a sweet and pretty girl, very much worth a session. Highly recommended. That said, I can't guarantee she kisses in a 50 E session all my rooms were of the 100 E for 60 M variety.[/QUOTE]I heard from one side she's kissing, but others said: No. We all know that kisses for someone means deep kisses, for somebody else it means kissing with lips only. Of course it's a matter of chemistry and last.

Not least it depends on extra money.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2354133]Because I'm curious. Is it an unusual question?

I heard from one side she's kissing, but others said: No. We all know that kisses for someone means deep kisses, for somebody else it means kissing with lips only. Of course it's a matter of chemistry and last.

Not least it depends on extra money.[/QUOTE]OK, you are right. Zyenep's kissing is not as deep and not as passionate as some of my best girls over the years. But there have been others that provided very minimal kissing in even 100 Euro sessions. Compared to them, Zyenep was an improvement. She provided a minimal amount of tongue action, plenty of lips to lips in a 100 Euro session for one hour. She did for me.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2354048]Hey Pessimist,

Could you please share where she sits and perhaps a bit of her physical description? I have heard so much about her and I'm a bit surprised I still haven't met her.[/QUOTE]Hi WorldPeace,

She is half Rom half Turk, looks like her heritage. Approx 160 cm in height, skinny and small tits. She has a smiling and pleasant disposition. I do not remember if she has any specific location, but closer to the pole dance group is a reasonable location. Generally she is not stationary as she is either busy and in the rooms or walking around seeking customers.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2353787]Sirioja,

You are very experienced and with many women. You can tell just by watching the woman walk, talk and her body language.

I only wanted to provide general information for newbies since the Law was changed in 2017.

Aloha.[/QUOTE]You are right there is a new law, but reality is different: natural BJ is still quite standard, with some girls interested by extra to provide CIM. About new law, GT and LR girls were said by staff they didn't want complaints from clients, so girls kept on in same way than before, what is reality. On the other hand, at Turkish Samya, staff made come a Polizei woman on early 1st July afternoon, who explained to girls they could have to pay fines for BBBJ. I discovered a girl in the night 30 June /1st July, enjoyable with BBBJ, so I decided to return to her on Saturday night. When she saw me, she came straight to me, I didn't tell her I would come back on next day, we went to repeat of course and in room she told me they were told she would have problems if she kept on providing BBBJ, so I had to explain her, according to the new law, and even I m not German but I use to work with juridic rules, she is a victim and only me can be guilty and prosecuted, she then seemed more comfortable and told: So we can do like yesterday?

I think knowledge we got from real women in real life, is more useful than experience in FKK where girls have low level about sexuality, even some superstars don t know much about their body, little mum are the best to know their body and sexuality because they are used to give to their baby. I only learned how react Romanian girls and woman types are my best GF in bed. Maybe Asians learn about Caucasian girls compare to Asians. I think behavior, manners and skill work more than experience, better to look how girls look at You before going to room, usually You should understand how it will be, even can sometimes be interesting to surprise a pretty enough girl who looked at You like a alien, and to get at the end: Why you didn't come to me before, or like Joana. De at Globe: now I know you, I will run to you, and she did. No experienced specialist for me, because we are all different as say girls.

[QUOTE=Facer12;2354065]PPan31: what summer vacation were you referring to?

I should be arriving in Frankfurt by August 26th for a week.

Should I be expecting an upcoming vacation and a poor LU?[/QUOTE]August is a time where lots of girl go home to recover and to visit their families. That means if you are focused on specific girl as I am you have to change expectations. At Sharks my experience is that in Summer lots of new girls come in to try the club.

Sharks is one of the clubs I go even on a Monday having a weaker lineup but still good for me.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2353769]Did you get kisses from Zeynep?[/QUOTE]I get kisses from her but I am usually staying for minimum an hour or longer with her. I like her general appearance, the conversations and her sweetness, whichi can only enjoy when I have more time.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2353978]Could you share your experience with Edina, please?[/QUOTE]For me, Edina provides GFE on a very high level. Very soft and with lots of passion. Rooms with her are always an experience. I personally epecially like her smile and good conversation (German). I typically don't do specials so I can not report about that. She provides kissing and likes DATY, so I get all I expect without upselling.

I typically stay longer with her and I don't know what she is different in 30 min. Sessions.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2354484]Hi WorldPeace,

She is half Rom half Turk, looks like her heritage. Approx 160 cm in height, skinny and small tits. She has a smiling and pleasant disposition. I do not remember if she has any specific location, but closer to the pole dance group is a reasonable location. Generally she is not stationary as she is either busy and in the rooms or walking around seeking customers.[/QUOTE]Perfect. Appreciate it, bud.

You are right there is a new law, but reality is different: natural BJ is still quite standard, with some girls interested by extra to provide CIM. About new law, GT and LR girls were said by staff they didn't want complaints from clients, so girls kept on in same way than before, what is reality. On the other hand, at Turkish Samya, staff made come a Polizei woman on early 1st July afternoon, who explained to girls they could have to pay fines for BBBJ. I discovered a girl in the night 30 June /1st July, enjoyable with BBBJ, so I decided to return to her on Saturday night. When she saw me, she came straight to me, I didn't tell her I would come back on next day, we went to repeat of course and in room she told me they were told she would have problems if she kept on providing BBBJ, so I had to explain her, according to the new law, and even I m not German but I use to work with juridic rules, she is a victim and only me can be guilty and prosecuted, she then seemed more comfortable and told: So we can do like yesterday?

Just showing how most of those girls are low educated, under pressure from BF, pimps. Most of them can t really speak German, have no real friends.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2354843]Just showing how most of those girls are low educated, under pressure from BF, pimps. Most of them can t really speak German, have no real friends.[/QUOTE]No, it shows absolutely none of that! So please stop projecting your own random ideas to a random situation. The correspondence link is non existent in your example.

I only have a few hours to spend at a FKK (11 am-5 pm) on an upcoming Tuesday. I know Sharks opens at 11. How many girls should I expect? I was thinking about going to Oase, but I have already been there once and want a different experience for my second FKK. Would going to the RDL be better? Is there another club that would be better at noon on a Tuesday? Thanks so much!

[QUOTE=PPan31;2354660]For me, Edina provides GFE on a very high level. Very soft and with lots of passion. Rooms with her are always an experience. She provides kissing and likes DATY, so I get all I expect without upselling.
I typically stay longer with her and I don't know what she is different in 30 min. Sessions.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I share your experience with Edina.

[QUOTE=PPan31;2354651]August is a time where lots of girl go home to recover and to visit their families. That means if you are focused on specific girl as I am you have to change expectations. At Sharks my experience is that in Summer lots of new girls come in to try the club.

Sharks is one of the clubs I go even on a Monday having a weaker lineup but still good for me.[/QUOTE]Lucky guy, when really difficult for me to find now a attractive and interesting girl on Friday or Saturday at Sharks. I stopped on Sunday, I prefer Formula 1 , or on Monday when I discovered Karolina. Pol or legendary Katalina I followed at Globe, but it was higher time for Sharks casting, with women like Agnes. Pol, Karin, or Sandra. De even not a top beauty but fire in bed and lovely.

[QUOTE=Colfaxer;2355029]I only have a few hours to spend at a FKK (11 am-5 pm) on an upcoming Tuesday. I know Sharks opens at 11. How many girls should I expect? I was thinking about going to Oase, but I have already been there once and want a different experience for my second FKK. Would going to the RDL be better? Is there another club that would be better at noon on a Tuesday? Thanks so much![/QUOTE]Colfaxer,

If you have a few hours, if you like beautiful girls, Sharks is the Best. Just take a taxi from the airport to Darmstadt. Cost should be approximately 50 euros. Tuesday, it a slow day and the women wear swim suits and some are naked. You should still be able to find at least 3 decent girls to have sex with. 65 euro entrance and you get free buffet, non-alcoholic drinks, sauna and jacuzzi.

I have been to Frankfurt RLD and it is dirty. You have to walk up many stairs and look at a lot of doors to see if there is woman that might turn you on. If you just want a cheap fuck and don't care, then it is your choice. Most of the times that I have checked out Frankfurt's RLD, very few girls are open during the morning and afternoon.

Sharks and Oase are mega FKK clubs that provide you the best opportunity to have a great time. The choice is up to you.

August update:

Usual 100+ girls daily, overall better lineup than was in July or now in all other clubs I visited (Oase, Finca, LR etc) in this trip. Still 80% of the girls with way too much cellulite and / or worst than GND faces that I won't have sex with them unless they pay me a lot of money. And surprisingly, it's about that same percentage in RTC clubs like Dietz or Grim.

Brenda is back, and getting better and sweeter by the weeks.

Micky is such a waste of hotness. She's asian hunter as always but even they are avoiding / rejecting her 90% of the time. I guess they realized her APS (Asian Processing Scheme) in the old kino (now little fuck joints) is a total scam.

Loretta is my best Sharks experience in this trip.

Roxy is as sweet as ever, and then some.

I'm not sure if Cleo actually used to work in Globe or just says that, but she sure loves sex and blows like a true Glober. I love her body type and her personality. If she had no tattoos and if her face was a bit more beautiful, my bank would have started complaining and Mint app would have started notification of too much spending on entertainments.

Amalia and Elif are no longer focussing only on Asians, maybe because the sisters are not much busy like last year?

Barbie can be fun, but also can be more moody than any of your girlfriends ever; I guess partake at your own risk type.

Scarlett is the same gorgeous asexual girl I met 3 years ago, but must be doing something right to have so many stammgast customers. My guess is Denisa will become similar over the time. Bianca 18 Rom at Oase is of the same type.

Amanda is the only girl asked me extra for real BJ. No other girl did any upselling for real BJ or BLS or DFK. None!

I'm forgetting many names, old age creeping in. But generally everyone was nice.

I'm not sure this is a good thing or a bad thing, but lot of Asians now got the hang of how to negotiate FKK pricing. So much so that one Asian wanted to pay only 150 e for a 3 hours long session with a famous hot girl. Another Asian wanted to extend his session for another 30 minutes for only 20 euros. Kinda like how you haggle the prices in Asia. LOL.

On a side note, the two German girls at the McDonald in Dietzenbach are the most beautiful and the sweetest I have ever seen in any McDonald in all of Europe ever, out of maybe 25 McDonalds I was in for morning coffee and emails. One even started chatting up and joking with me. I wish they were working in some FKK.

If Cleo with silicon, late 20 s, she is ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl on my first visit when Katalina was not on tour. She was blond with natural tits at Globe on June 2016 , the best dancer on pole at Globe and super GFE and lovely in bed. After of course, Globe was Katalina for me and she really didn't need to be jealous about Isabella World, and I m sure she would never play to make me jealous, when she stopped on public when seeing me. If she is this Cleo / Stefi, then Globe quality for love in bed if you touch the woman. She was always lovely when we met after at Globe or Sharks, she didn't forget how I treated her.

Gino02. You saw Roxy?. Does that mean she has just come back from holiday. I did not see her.

I guess Evita is still on holiday?

Can you describe Loretta for me? I do not know her.

So, you went to Dietzenbach after Sharks? Not really much fun there after Sharks I think

[QUOTE=Optimist;2355557]Gino02. You saw Roxy?. Does that mean she has just come back from holiday. I did not see her.

I guess Evita is still on holiday?

Can you describe Loretta for me? I do not know her.

So, you went to Dietzenbach after Sharks? Not really much fun there after Sharks I think[/QUOTE]Optimist,

Yes, Roxy is back for at least a week. She's off today but will be there tomorrow Wednesday per her plan.

I saw Evita in July but not this month, not sure if / when she will be back. Somehow I never feel the urge to session with her, even though she came said Hi to me first time last month.

Loretta is about 26/27 yr ROM very slim (but not too skinny like Amanda) with perfect body for me, about 168 cm without shoes, do not wear those ugly plastic shoes that many Sharks girls wear these days. Classier compared to most of the girls in FKK land. Has only 2 little tattoos - one on left hand just above palm and another on the side of her torso, black / brown long straight natural hair, nice medium size visible pussy lips that I like, one piercing on belly with about 2 inches long jwellery hanging, nice natural boobs that may look a bit better with a little bit of sillicone but still very nice boobies for me, zero cellulite anywhere, nice little but round as like the runway models, and above all always smiling super nice personality, and likes sex with me LOL. Zero, I mean nada, upselling, not even any discussion of money in all my sessions with her. Ever. No wonder she had an eight hour long session with another customer on Sunday, and she tells me that's becoming somewhat normal for her after working about 18 months in Sharks (first job as WG). Many times she sits under the fish tank where Diana used to sit, next couch from where Roxy usually sits. I know a lot of real fashion models in NYC and Paris, and I think Loretta can still make good money by doing fashion modelling. Usually takes either Monday or Thursday off, and will go on vacation for few weeks end of this month, I'm sorry forgot exact dates.

Went to Dietz earlier hoping to find Amira but no luck, so no session there with the other girls none of whom were my type even by a mile. I should have first called the front desk though, my mistake.

A slim lady without curves. The backside view shows a size 32-34. Look for her shoes: she usually is wearing silver colored high heel sandals with scintillating paste gem on the fillet / belt (4 cm) upside the ankle. Black hair and narrow face. Ladylike but not arrogant.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355574]Optimist,

Yes, Roxy is back for at least a week. She's off today but will be there tomorrow Wednesday per her plan.

I saw Evita in July but not this month, not sure if / when she will be back. Somehow I never feel the urge to session with her, even though she came said Hi to me first time last month.

Loretta is about 26/27 yr ROM very slim with perfect body for me, about 168 cm without shoes, do not wear those ugly plastic shoes that many Sharks girls wear these days. Classier compared to most of the girls in FKK land. Has only 2 little tattoos - one on left hand just above palm and another on the side of her torso, black / brown long straight natural hair, nice medium size visible pussy lips that I like, one piercing on belly with about 2 inches long jwellery hanging, nice natural boobs that may look a bit better with a little bit of sillicone but still very nice boobies for me, zero cellulite anywhere, nice little but round as like the runway models, and above all always smiling super nice personality, and likes sex with me LOL. Zero, I mean nada, upselling, not even any discussion of money in all my sessions with her. Ever. No wonder she had an eight hour long session with another customer on Sunday, and she tells me that's becoming somewhat normal for her after working about 18 months in Sharks (first job as WG). Many times she sits under the fish tank where Diana used to sit, next couch from where Roxy usually sits. I know a lot of real fashion models in NYC and Paris, and I think Loretta can still make good money by doing fashion modelling..[/QUOTE]From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.

I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.

Thanks for the help. One day I will meet you Shark cognoscenti and it will help me :)

Spend a few days late in July. Had a few sessions with Micky, Brenda, Amalia, Elfi. All good sessions in my opinion but the Highlight was Jessica at Cheyenne. Had both of them 3 times on threesome and it was amazing. I believe it is a must do thing.

Had also 2 separate sessions only with Cheyenne. In my opinion she is very feminine and like her face and eyes. If you like PSE then go for it.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2355612]Thanks for the help. One day I will meet you Shark cognoscenti and it will help me :)[/QUOTE]Gino. I second the thanks from Optimist. I'm visiting in about 2 months and hope these amazing scouting reports will help me zero in on a lady. Closer to the time, I'll post when I'm there in "future dates forum" , and treat you all to drinks!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2355586]From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.

I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.[/QUOTE]Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? IMHO, from simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.

Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2355633]Gino. I second the thanks from Optimist. I'm visiting in about 2 months and hope these amazing scouting reports will help me zero in on a lady. Closer to the time, I'll post when I'm there in "future dates forum" , and treat you all to drinks![/QUOTE]Thanks Tintin and Optimist. Happy that the info is useful to you. For me, it's very hard to find a good looking and nice girl in FKKs these days, I feel like the average quality, particularly looks, gone really downhill in last 3 years. Before that I could find many FKK girls better looking (face and body) than in the summer on the streets of New York City. Now it seems to have reversed. On top of that, even if some FKK girl is good looking, their too many ugly tattoos now make them almost repulsive to me. And girls are not even ashamed nowadays having so much cottage cheese (cellulites) all over their body. It's very disappointing for me to observe how the wonderful world of FKK went downhill so quickly in only few years. So now if I find anyone I like, which is very rare, I try to enjoy her as much as I possibly can. Hope you also can do the same.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2355547]If Cleo with silicon, late 20 s, she is ex Stefi Globe, my first Globe girl on my first visit when Katalina was not on tour. She was blond with natural tits at Globe on June 2016 , the best dancer on pole at Globe and super GFE and lovely in bed. After of course, Globe was Katalina for me and she really didn't need to be jealous about Isabella World, and I m sure she would never play to make me jealous, when she stopped on public when seeing me. If she is this Cleo / Stefi, then Globe quality for love in bed if you touch the woman. She was always lovely when we met after at Globe or Sharks, she didn't forget how I treated her.[/QUOTE]Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355658]Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? From simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.

Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.[/QUOTE]In 15 years of P6, I never catch something like you, I don't believe about the stories of the girls being tested, I spent so much time with girls from Romania outside the clubs and in their home country just to be convinced that the number of girls who are doing regular medical checks is very limited.

Unfortunately I don t know Amira but Dietz is really not a place for me, everything looks so cheap there, and when I am there I just feel in a cheap brothel.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355665]Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta still looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.[/QUOTE]Most of the prostitutes are aging very fast, I can easily remember the first days in the FKK for some girls in Shark or World or Oase and you see them 1 or 2 years later, difficult to imagine how they changed.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355665]Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.[/QUOTE]Cleo told me in June she became 26 years old early in this year. She said she is now 5 years in that business.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355665]Yes, Cleo is with silicone, late 20's. So you are probably correct she's ex Globe. She behaves exactly how you said. I only wish if I had met her when she had younger face and had no tattoos. You were so lucky to meet her back then. She's still lovely and very enjoyable Globe quality girl. Cleo and Loretta are about the same age, but somehow Loretta looks much much younger and fresh girl, maybe because she's doing this job only 18 months now.[/QUOTE]I would say Cleo is 160 bare feet, I didn't see her on my few last visits, but even not Katalina nor Rebeka. Hu nor Joana. De, but really Globe level quality. She really deserves to return to Globe where silicon competition now, I wish her the best, really lovely girl.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2355586]From Shark to Dietz! The second one is just a very cheap place with over fucked prostitutes 0 emotion, 0 erotic just mechanical sex, sorry I am not wasting my time and money for those kind of places or girls.

I am too afraid to catch any disease but some guys like to play with their health.[/QUOTE]I don't run for, but with my little experience, and more useful: knowledge of women, manners and skill, really no need to take diseases risks in low level RTC, to play religion. Some pretty princesses can become so passionate after cumming on DATY, but problem is when I ask if they take pills about pregnancy, usual answer is: no.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2355658]Well, have you ever seen Amira at Dietz? IMHO, from simply the look standpoint she is better than 98% Sharks girls even when all top girls are back from holidays. She can be very mechanical to most customers, but somehow likes me a lot, and that makes her one of my current top 3 girls in the whole FKK land.

Just so you know, Dietz girls get tested by a club sponsored doctor every few weeks (may even be weekly, I forgot what's for sure) and put on the sideline by the house If any disease found, unlike most of the other FKK girls like in Sharks. So if you are scared to get any STD from a prostitute, chances of getting that is much higher in places like Sharks by even kissing or BBBJ or DATY. That's just my opinion, you or others don't have to agree with me, but I haven't so far caught anything in last 12 years of FKK mongering. But I chose girls based on their general hygene and health practices as I observe.[/QUOTE]No value and no pleasure for me to fuck AO a girl, even pretty, fucked AO by everybody, when You see clients look in RTC. Much more valuable and enjoyable for me, even I don t run for, when a beauty choose to offer to You, they never ask for extra for this, just like a present, but most often they don t even take pills, so risky.

I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.

I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.

Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?

I like to get the miles!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2356357]I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.

I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.

Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?

I like to get the miles![/QUOTE]In whole Switzerland, you can pay with credit card, but charged. In Wellcum Austria, you can pay with credit card, no charge for entry, 5% for cash. At Oase, you can pay with credit card, charged. Not at Sharks, but ATM.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2356357]I know Globe will take my credit card, charge it, and then pay the girl right there.

I think I remember Oase or World doing this 5+ years ago, but they charged me like 10-15%.

Does Sharks do this? Or does anyone know of any other German FKK that do this?

I like to get the miles![/QUOTE]ATM there takes Visa, I tried, doesn't charge fee if you are customer of a German direct bank like DKB.

Collecting Miles is a strange habit for me, just doing things to geht the miles? OK but I hate to fly, maybe I don't have the understanding.

However every girl there has a slot but not for credit cards. I've never heard they charge via cards. I think this would lead to problems with taxes and IRS cause every girl is just working there for their own, not for the club, they are just.

Customers too like we are. They got to keep it separated otherwise German IRS charges turnover taxes (maybe partially) to the club, which they of course want to avoid. That's why most clubs in Germany don't have a Line-Up-List.

On their Homepages and if they got it leads to a third party homepage. Only a few clubs take the risk to mix up their business (which is to provide the hardware, the club) with the girl's businesses. IRS is always waiting here in Germany.

Like I say, you can mess up with mafia, the marines or Medellin, the most dangerous organisation on this planet is German IRS aka DAS FINANZAMT!

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2356823]ATM there takes Visa, I tried, doesn't charge fee if you are customer of a German direct bank like DKB.

However every girl there has a slot but not for credit cards. I've never heard they charge via cards. [/QUOTE]Nevertheless from some girls you can get ATM service. LOL.

From America to Frankfurt and on to Darmstadt. That has often been my way and it has always been worth it because Sharks is.

A super horny club. In the summer I enjoy the plant and the.

Good food. Colleagues recommended Bonita to me, but I could not find her. Either she was not there. But.

Secretly I hoped that I could see Elif again. I ran.

That's why and what luck. Suddenly I saw her with her sister. It was a great reunion joy. Elif is one.

My favorite and I enjoyed another great hour with her.

In the room. Your kisses. Your blowjob and this hot ass.

- just fantastic for good sex. She also knows what a customer wants and goes wonderfully with. Elif is a great woman. I'm coming.

Again and looking forward to you today.

Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?

I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.

From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2357062]Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?

I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.[/QUOTE]In Frankfurt I think all clubs have an ATM machine to withdraw cash from either debit or credit card. High fees though around 9-10 euro.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2357062]Any clubs in Frankfurt or anywhere in Germany, Zurich, etc?

I want to get cash from my credit card. I don't really care if there is a fee.[/QUOTE]At Oase, you can get cash with 10% charge. At Wellcum Austria, with 5% charge. At Globe or Freubad, You can pay girls, but not get cash.

Monday 12th August for 3 weeks renovations in the Shark. Club is still open, but you have to deal with massive limitations!

Therefore they've already put a tent outside, I've already seen it Friday. I guess it is a bar counter substitute sth like that. Entry fee stays the same as far as I know. Bar counter is getting changed completely, maybe they also change some other things. Information policy still weak, no info on the Clubs-Homepage. I guess most guests will still visit the Club, paying any entrance fee without thinking, therefore Sharks would be stupid if they would reduce the price.

I hope they improve air quality which is always bad (me as a smoker I think the air quality is bad! They got hatches and air circulation on the roof, but I guess nobody cares or they want to save some money (electricity).

And I also hope they put a self service soda pump outside the kitchen area so the customers can pull some soda-drinks themselves, just like in other clubs. The bar counter girls are so slow. The club would help themselves too if they would outsource the 0 Euro soda-drinker customers like me.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2357178]In Frankfurt I think all clubs have an ATM machine to withdraw cash from either debit or credit card. High fees though around 9-10 euro.[/QUOTE]Only Oase has no ATM from the Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs. At Oase you get money with your CC at reception with high provision and they see CC name. Therefore I've never used this at Oase.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2357206]At Oase, you can get cash with 10% charge. At Wellcum Austria, with 5% charge. At Globe or Freubad, You can pay girls, but not get cash.[/QUOTE]Also at Andiamo Villach. At, cash with 10% charge.

Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.

Before the report on today's events at Sharks thought I'd mention Stuggi's post. Very pleased to hear renovations are taking place and hope it is not just the bar. In particular I hope they sort out the ventilation in the rooms (so hot today), then also the massage rooms. They used to be around the back of the fish tank which was great. Now they are virtually in the club and even with headphones it is so noisy and not relaxing at all.

They need to think about the food service. Whilst for me the food in Sharks is head and shoulders above most clubs (not Sukura Stuttgart), I arrived at the club today and there was nothing available at all from 3 pm to 5 pm when the fruit was put out. The main bbq took forever and didn't start till gone 5 pm. So 2 hours with no food in a club where entry fee includes food. Not great.

The smoke in the bar is also very heavy. I hope they install a smokers room like at Mainhattan so the rest of us who don't smoke can avoid the ingestion of cancer inducing smoke. Passive smoking can cause premature death in non-smokers. Passive smoking increases the risk of coronary heart disease by 25-40% - almost the same level as a smoker. Second-hand smoke contains more than 7000 chemicals, with 69 cancer-causing chemicals. At Living Room I would imagine the chances of serious illness or death if you spend much time in that main lounge is high! Sharks is a little better as it is bigger but not a lot. In a lot of countries it is illegal now to smoke in bars. I don't want to stop people who want to kill themselves prematurely from doing so if that is their wish (to risk it) but give them an area to do it in! And let's get a kino back at Sharks. Lots of renovations needed so I hope all of the above is within the works. No information seems to be available on how long this will all take.

Onto the day. I normally don't arrive in daytime but did today. Enjoyed a beer at the pool and watching one pretty blonde throwing a ball into the pool for guys and jumping about.

The sun was out but went in about 3. 30 pm but it was fine to sit out. Read a book, listened to music and chilled. Approached several times despite wearing headphones (phone in robe and listening to music).

Overall I would say the LU was reasonable but nothing amazing. There were two very pretty blonde girls with longish very curly hair. Both were slim. One wore red lingerie / basque and was taller that the other and had larger breasts. The other was shorter, had high cheek bones, quite pretty and was constantly with her brunette friend. If anyone recognises who these ladies are from the above descriptions I'd be interested to know. Alas did not get to chat with either. The usual sausage fest on Sunday was present. I'm not sure why I bothered to leave Sharks till last and go on a Sunday but it is how it panned out.

First up, decided to finally room with Yvonna. Not Ivana as she was clear to tell me. Nice pretty girl, been in the club a few years and lovely natural see cups. Sits by the massage room beyond the main bar. Long mousey coloured hair (no extensions). Really good room for an hour with her. Great service and attitude.

Off for massage with Pia my favourite lady masseuse. One of the Thai ladies. Always excellent and today was no exception - 90 minutes but in the area cordoned off by sauna / showers and inside the main club so far too noisy.

Round two with Scarlett. First time with her. 23 year old, fresh looking brunette (Ro). Good vibes, very natural looking girl. Natural bee cups, only tattoos are one on a foot and one on wrist. Very white body with no suntan at all. Great hour with her too left me very tired not least as the room felt like it was 200 degrees.

A good visit, more than 5 girls I'd have gone to a room with which equates to a successful visit for me.

Enjoyed it but would love the club so much more if the suggested above alterations were implemented.

Scarlet is one of the hotter looking girls at Sharks. Pretty face, tight bid, nice tits, good English, sassy attitude but friendly. A good all around girl. Service OK. Has improved over the years.

Yvonna, or Ivona used to an OK looker, but now less than GND in my view. Sorry, I'm being blunt. She aged faster than her real years. Ivana, the slimmer one (fish tank) on the other hand, still looks good. But I have not seen Ivana in a few months.

Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.

Frankfurt RDL district is not a safe place at all for us mongers, 0 reason even to spend 1 minute there, full of illegal migrants dealing in ethnically groups and sometimes fighting each other for territories.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2357162]From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.[/QUOTE]Most important would be the installation of air conditioning in the rooms. Have them activated only during hot summer days to save money which Sharks is wont to do.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2357511]Scarlet is one of the hotter looking girls at Sharks. Pretty face, tight bid, nice tits, good English, sassy attitude but friendly. A good all around girl. Service OK. Has improved over the years.

Yvonna, or Ivona used to an OK looker, but now less than GND in my view. Sorry, I'm being blunt. She aged faster than her real years. Ivana, the slimmer one (fish tank) on the other hand, still looks good. But I have not seen Ivana in a few months.[/QUOTE]In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2357742]In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.[/QUOTE]Yes agree. The waiting around is the worst part of it. Someone else wrote this, but they have not much to do when not working and are couped up 4 per room in those little cubbies and keep eating junk food and smoking endlessly while chatting with their pals. In 2 years, a fresh 19 year old beauty ages so badly and looks like 25 year old MILF with a million miles on the body.

If the club has any money to provide wellness facilities, they should make them available to the girls. But with thousands of new girls coming over every year from E EU, club owners have no incentive to support existing girls.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2357742]In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.[/QUOTE]I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.

I think there is one more thing that they don't share. What brought them to this profession. I wonder if there is a dark story behind it. I don't think most 18 yo will think of prostitution as their choice of career. I read somewhere that many girls enter this profession, especially in Europe and FKK, by way of a family member or a lover. Given most come from poor families, some family member / boy friend / husband takes advantage of their trust and sends them here.

So, yes, when you add all these up with terrible working conditions at Sharks, girls age 10 years in 2 years.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2357162]From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.[/QUOTE]Since I visit, Sharks is the club which made biggest improvement with veranda for winter, beautiful garden with chalets with AC to enjoy girls in daylight in Summer. At a moment, were new rooms downstairs where massage now. They made new rooms upstairs, so never waited for long to get a free room when can wait sometimes 1 hour at LR with 10 rooms, and nearly at GT. Sharks is a good club for me with good breakfast, most important meal when You are used to sport, some beautiful rooms, and I can understand they need many entry from girls and guys, but quantity of girls is not on same level than club improvement. Pretty and high level girls would make past regulars coming back more often, even I know new kind of clients at night give business to the club, buying bottles. Not only at Sharks, LR turned same way, but high level girls need good business to stay, not drunk guys. On my last visits, quite empty on Friday afternoon and some girls don t look for night business, like Megan didn't want to work with these clients, so quite poor casting after midnight.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2357834]Yes agree. The waiting around is the worst part of it. Someone else wrote this, but they have not much to do when not working and are couped up 4 per room in those little cubbies and keep eating junk food and smoking endlessly while chatting with their pals. In 2 years, a fresh 19 year old beauty ages so badly and looks like 25 year old MILF with a million miles on the body.

If the club has any money to provide wellness facilities, they should make them available to the girls. But with thousands of new girls coming over every year from E EU, club owners have no incentive to support existing girls.[/QUOTE]Most of the clubs are owned by motorcycle clubs, some tried to invest in the girls but most of the girls are so unpredictable, one day they come, next day no.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2357162]From Monday the 12th of August will start renovations at Sharks. Some parts of the club will be closed off. The bar area will also be affected.[/QUOTE]That's not good.

Anyone know which other parts of the club are closed off and if there are any discounts of the entry fee as result of the inconvenience?

Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?

Thanks. Howie.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2357628]Last night of my trip to FKK land tonight. Worked last night until midnight so too late for me to hit a club. Was near to the Hauptbahnof so decided to take a walk through RLD. One particularly pretty blonde outside a club but this area looked fairly dangerous to me. Got accosted by several people offering drugs and one guy was not happy I was not going into the club and tried to block my path forward. After one attempt at politely telling him I wasn't interested he persisted and positively moved to one side to stop my progress. Told him that I really did not want to have to force him to let me pass and I'd like to keep it friendly but if he grabbed me again he was going to end up on the floor. Seemed to do the trick and off I went. Made a fairly quick escape from the area and wouldn't fancy venturing back. Grim.

Frankfurt RDL district is not a safe place at all for us mongers, 0 reason even to spend 1 minute there, full of illegal migrants dealing in ethnically groups and sometimes fighting each other for territories.[/QUOTE]Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.

Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity.

I find some of your posts to be borderline racist against Turks and once again what is wrong with a Turk? What have they done to you? Every Turkish man I have met has been nice to me, one good friend of mine here in FRA is Turkish; the ladies love him.

And FYI the junkies in the RLD all have my color skin, they are the ones who get arrested not the Asian, black or brown skinned folks. You are free to be ethnocentric it is your choice however judge the person, not the skin. I'll be happy to introduce you to some very nice dark skinned folks here.

Several Sharks have told me the Turks are their favorite clients; clean, respectful, do not fight over time in the rooms and I am told many tip. I think you need to be a little more accepting of all people and with the name ' ExpatLover' you created IMHO it is not a very fitting name if you are not going to be accepting of all kinds of people in a city where much like our cities it is the diversification of many cultures that in some minds makes the United States a great place, we call it a ' melting pot. ' All welcome.

And FWIW I am very friendly with the Day Care regulars as well as the girls, one of their boyfriends once gave me a ride so I didn't have to walk in the rain. He was Turkish.

Two trips ago a man gave me a small gift and said ' welcome back to Germany'; he too was Turkish.

At dinner the other night the manager gave me a free dessert for my frequent visits. He was Turkish.

There are good and bad people all over the world from all different cultures. I do acknowledge immigrants in the USA can cause problems but so can the white man, and most immigrants back home are great people. I am not a German and am unfamiliar with the relations with Turks and I can only speak from my own experiences but I am pretty certain the majority of Turks in Germany are good people.

I personally find your comments disgusting; good or bad comes from inside the person; not their skin.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2358026]Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.

Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity.[/QUOTE]I am every months in Frankfurt and also in the Bahnhof Viertel by night, but for sure you know better than I what is happening there. Just a small info, are you aware that every months the Turkish owner of the restaurant in this place are going to the mayor office to complain about what is happening in that place and how it is negatively impacting their long time business.

[QUOTE=Howie;2358002].........Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?......[/QUOTE]So you are one of Brenda's fans, well, good for you. She usually works for a couple weeks then takes a couple weeks off, then repeats that schedule over and over. Its probably why the profession does not take its toll on her the way it does other girls.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2357742]In this job most of the girls are aging very fast, sex is good but too much can be challenging, also smoking, drinking, spending hours waiting, learning nothing except fucking and sucking all this is not keeping your body and head fresh.[/QUOTE]Maybe this is why MR. HO said that their bones also get loose and their ass gets bigger! LOL.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2358026]Dangerous? Any mongers here been robbed or hurt in the RLD? If so I missed the post. Perhaps you are just not one who deals well with folks blocking your path. Do like an American football player. When the defender blocks your path you spin right or left now you are 1-2 feet away from either side of them and continue forward. FYI sometimes it is best not to say ' not interested' as that acknowledges them, just ignore them if they get pushy verbally get pushy back. ' Man up' as they say.

Now I have seen a fight, usually always the junkies and how can you spot an ' immigrant'; how do you know they are not a German citizen second or third generation as German as the white man? That is quite a stretch to think because one has darker skin they are an illegal. This is like I looking at a Mexican in TX and racially profiling them as being an illegal alien when they are just as much a US citizen as I am some very hard working good people just raising a family in a land of opportunity..[/QUOTE]I agree with you many Turkish are nice, like Samya staff, some are courageous, but not what I hear from girls in many clubs. Of course, if You speak to girls who work in clubs where Turkish clients make business, girls don t have choice, but many girls prefer to avoid them, with my little experience in FKK land.

I was also very surprised about Albanians I met in Zurich Polizei jail, they were there for dealing drug, waiting to be sent off Switzerland to Albania via Belgrad and were sad to lose their good business making good money with Swiss clients, especially in Zurich, but they were amazed to see a devil insulting Kantonal polizei or Swiss immigration polizei, sending them back my foods, so Albanians asked me: can we get your foods, they explained me go fast from Amsterdam through Germany and through Albanian holes on border. Switzerland learned me to ski when I was a child from 8 to 14 yo, Swiss administration learned me to learn from Albanian dealers, thanks to Swiss administration. Of course, I never made damage to anybody in Switzerland, I just will always refuse to be fucked by Swiss administration and I will always resist to them for my past GF Isabella. Ro they frightened at 6 am to make her pay 1200 CHF. I will never pay 2000 they ask me. Albanians were not, devil was French telling Swiss: I don t need your so small country for my life.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2358049]I am every months in Frankfurt and also in the Bahnhof Viertel by night, but for sure you know better than I what is happening there. Just a small info, are you aware that every months the Turkish owner of the restaurant in this place are going to the mayor office to complain about what is happening in that place and how it is negatively impacting their long time business.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about Mamaris or another Turkish place? The cash only place (tax vashing machine) with long lines often, tables full raking in the dough even during the day. I can only assume you are talking about another place as Mamaris just underwent an extensive remodel and business is booming; that remodel wasn't cheap at all. In fact 'business is so bad' they were able to afford to close down make no income for close to two months, stomach the hit and now business seems better than ever!

Stop in next time and take a peak when you pay at the cash register drawer when they give you change, every slot is overflowing with bills although the 100's they put in another spot. That owner isn't hurting one bit. FYI the owner is a German of Turkish decent. It is a family run business. Very nice guys. ' The owner of the Turkish restaurant' would be a much more proper way to phrase your thoughts.

I eat there quite often, any of the rift raft comes in that place or tries to sit at a table they are asked to leave and / or removed immediately, cops there in seconds. That place is a cash cow. Perhaps you should stop in and try their Lamb soup and mixed grill platter sometime, sometimes they even have Goulash the best I have had yet in Germany but business is 'so bad' they usually run out by 9 or 10 PM at the latest.

Places don't remodel when the long term outlook is bad. They relocate. Or close.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2357932]I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.[/QUOTE]Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.

[QUOTE=Howie;2358002]That's not good.

Anyone know which other parts of the club are closed off and if there are any discounts of the entry fee as result of the inconvenience?

Also anyone know if Brenda is still around?

Thanks. Howie.[/QUOTE]The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.

If you want a drink you must go outside.

Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.

However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.

There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2358126]Maybe this is why MR. HO said that their bones also get loose and their ass gets bigger! LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.

But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.

[QUOTE=Canary;2358208]The whole of the bar area is closed off which prevents people walking around the now demolished bar.

If you want a drink you must go outside.

Many girls left early bitterly complaining about the temporary set up.

However the girls who remained got a lot of business because of the limited availability.

There was no discount on Monday's entrance fee.[/QUOTE]No 45 if you give discount ticket? And they give you back a new one for next Monday or Tuesday, when club is reduced by works. Where to prepare marathon if can't turn for 15 hours around the bar, looking for a so rare beauty. Sharks is good for club improvements since I discovered on beginning of 2014, but beauties are more important.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2357932]
Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.
[/QUOTE]But how is it different compared to any other sales job?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2358356]But how is it different compared to any other sales job?[/QUOTE]The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2358356]But how is it different compared to any other sales job?[/QUOTE]Cause they sell themselves not a vacuum cleaner. If you reject you reject them as a person not their product.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2358226]I believe Mr. Ho was only referring to the pounding. Which I don't really believe in.

But the smoking and sitting and waiting on the other hand. Some of my favourite girls seems to work less, but spend time at the gym instead. Like Eleny at Oceans and Lorena at Wellcum for example. I don't know how the economics of that works out, but I certainly prefer it. Too bad girls like are a drop in the sea. But maybe it only works out for some also.[/QUOTE]Some turn around hunting, to stay fit with firm ass and beautiful legs, but they have pain in feet. Some make fat on ass, sitting smoking, rubbing ass on stool or couch but this is not a massage and blood don t move enough and teeth become yellow or dark. They lose their beauty for those who are pretty, making such money. Some spend their money for silicon, or Botox, or acid, or cocaine, and they will get lower business after like Roxana did, or will become monsters like at Wellcum, looking now like Sylvana daughter, when she was cute full natural with perfect firm small tits. A real pity, I was sad to see such look, and of course couldn't return with her, even I know the fire in bed she is, but after my visit at Globe on 1 August, I made a violent allergies to plastic = silicon, Botox.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2357932]I've spoken to countless girls at FKKs and one question I always ask them is if they smoke. If they say, I follow-up with why. The answer has been unanimous. To combat the stress of the job. So I asked how does stress manifest in your profession? They say it's simple. Whether they will meet the quota for the day or not. Quantify quota? Varies from girl to girl. Some target 500 over their entrance fee, while some have 2 K and above. So, the biggest factor is money.

Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment..[/QUOTE]Yes, I had the same feedback by talking to FKK girls about smoking and stress. In some extreme cases, they even get into serious eating disorders and they look very sick. Paloma. Ro, for example, used to be a great beauty but now she is skin and bones and I feel sorry for her. If she starts eating again, I'm sure she will be beautiful again.

Some top girls, like Melissa. Ro, they have very high budget targets around 1 k / day and I believe she reaches it most of the days. However, I keep seeing girls who very rarely get a sessions and I wonder if they have someone else paying their entrance fee.

Yes, the reasons why many girls start doing this job can be different. One girl once told me he has to support his father, so she regularly sends him money. Other girls with low education are drawn into the business by 'boyfriends' because that is a quick way to get money fast and maybe open their own business at some point.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2358193]Like dogs, 7 years for each year for us, and with cigarettes which are a drug. With my girls, when they smoke, I often take their cigarettes, sometimes even in their bag, then they ask me to give them back, they need so much, real drug, when no cocaine.[/QUOTE]Very stressful and hard for body and mind job for girls who are around 20 . When they go with a new client, they don't know what will happen, so when they found a good client, they are welcoming to repeat. After problems with Ariana, Megan asked me to start her day with me, she knew it would be a safe start and she would pay her entry and night only with me. Maybe why some run for Asians, because usually easy and safe, when some girls prefer to avoid night clients and not only drunk. For some, like Kate, worst is to wait when no client go to her, fortunately for her, not often, she may be the busiest at GT. Some girls say: some days are good, some days are bad, as told me Melissa. Some girls even ask for advises when they trust us. Can be a little bit proud for how Megan or Kate trust me.

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2358359]The product. Here, it's their body. More personal than any sales job selling an inanimate object or service, no?[/QUOTE]True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2358510]True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?[/QUOTE]Even the prettiest girl gets rejected several times in an FKK. If rejection avoidance is the most important criterion a girl cannot work in FKK clubs.

In theory you are right that girls should stay as pretty and healthy as possible for business sustainability reasons. But many of them follow a different path and try to extract the maximum possible from uninformed, gullible mongers, especially of Asian persuasion as opposed to improving the "product".

Yesterday, I was visit this club. End did control about time that girls going to room with costumers. In lees than 10 minutes room door again open. (4 different girl) One girl making 3 costumers ready in less than 30 minutes. Taxi for 11 euro return to railway. Going with bus to this club. Intercity hotel is good option (60 euro).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2358472]Very stressful and hard for body and mind job for girls who are around 20 .............[/QUOTE]In my over forty years of pursuing this hobby I have found that the best stress relief for girls is for music that they like to be played while doing the act. Their service is even better.

I booked a trip to Germany several months in advance hoping to enjoy Sharks for a few days only to find out the club is being renovated LOL. Can anybody tell me if there are major disruptions there or it's something which is not affecting the overall experience? I will be there in two days.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358561]In my over forty years of pursuing this hobby I have found that the best stress relief for girls is for music that they like to be played while doing the act. Their service is even better.[/QUOTE]For 40 years? Amazing. I start with escorts when I was 45 , and later in FKK land, but, like good french wine even I don t drink, I still improve my times for climbing on this Summer, even a bit disappointed by my time today from Prato to Stelvio, when I improved from Bormio to Stelvio, even starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, after 5 kms I lost all my water, good climbing time but I killed my body. I don t like when girls want to play music, room is not a discotheque for me, I prefer to look at their reactions, listen to noises even I don t care about moaning, but breathe, belly moving, liquid coming, how they put their body. And of course, when we enter the room, I try to make girls relax. Usually after 2 minutes, they let me do.

If it doesn't cost too much to change tickets, I would definitely visit after the renovation is done. The club feels much smaller and more crowded when it's busy like tonight. In reality, attendance is quite low for a Wednesday but I had a hard time to find a place to sit.

[QUOTE=MarioM;2358612]I booked a trip to Germany several months in advance hoping to enjoy Sharks for a few days only to find out the club is being renovated LOL. Can anybody tell me if there are major disruptions there or it's something which is not affecting the overall experience? I will be there in two days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2358673]If it doesn't cost too much to change tickets, I would definitely visit after the renovation is done. The club feels much smaller and more crowded when it's busy like tonight. In reality, attendance is quite low for a Wednesday but I had a hard time to find a place to sit.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Too late to make any changes now. What about the number of girls? Are they still there or they are moving to other clubs during renovations? Which parts of the club are actually closed off?

What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?

Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2358468]Yes, I had the same feedback by talking to FKK girls about smoking and stress. In some extreme cases, they even get into serious eating disorders and they look very sick. Paloma. Ro, for example, used to be a great beauty but now she is skin and bones and I feel sorry for her. If she starts eating again, I'm sure she will be beautiful again.

Some top girls, like Melissa. Ro, they have very high budget targets around 1 k / day and I believe she reaches it most of the days. However, I keep seeing girls who very rarely get a sessions and I wonder if they have someone else paying their entrance fee.

Yes, the reasons why many girls start doing this job can be different. One girl once told me he has to support his father, so she regularly sends him money. Other girls with low education are drawn into the business by 'boyfriends' because that is a quick way to get money fast and maybe open their own business at some point.

Rock.[/QUOTE]Before we went to room, Melissa explained me she has good business days and lower days and she also moved to work elsewhere, not always full busy and even sometimes working until 5 am. Interesting to chat, maybe more than in bed. But, yes, some girls really don't seem busy at Sharks when they need to make more than 1 hour in room to pay entry, condom and cigarettes.

The bar, reception and VIP are going to be renovated, as I was told. Right now, the whole bar area is being demolished and rebuilt. The number of girls is much less than early July but you can still find plenty to have fun. Historically Aug is a low season as both customers and girls take vacations.

[QUOTE=MarioM;2358675]Thanks. Too late to make any changes now. What about the number of girls? Are they still there or they are moving to other clubs during renovations? Which parts of the club are actually closed off?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2358712]What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?

Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.[/QUOTE]I always bring my speakers and it never was a problem. More difficult is to find a room without music background music so you can enjoy your own music.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2358719]Before we went to room, Melissa explained me she has good business days and lower days and she also moved to work elsewhere, not always full busy and even sometimes working until 5 am. Interesting to chat, maybe more than in bed. But, yes, some girls really don't seem busy at Sharks when they need to make more than 1 hour in room to pay entry, condom and cigarettes.[/QUOTE]Yes, Melissa is also great to talk to. She is one of the few FKK girls with a brain! I think she is in Austria now (GT Vienna or Babylon).

Rock.

[QUOTE=SerpentX;2358814]The bar, reception and VIP are going to be renovated, as I was told. Right now, the whole bar area is being demolished and rebuilt.[/QUOTE]I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2358712]What are they remodeling and how long is it supposed to take?

Would I be able to bring a Bluetooth speaker and my cell phone into the club to play music.[/QUOTE]Verbotten telephone at Sharks. Come with your Ludwig drums and play solo. At Oase, a regular play kind of cimbals when girls dance on the bar. Music is played when bar is working.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2358510]True. But also same for fashion models, professional athletes, TV anchors among many others. Isn't it more important to make every effort to maintain and improve the body as beautiful and as much possible in shape when the product is their body, to reduce rejections during sales efforts?[/QUOTE]Hey Gino,

I guess I wasn't too clear with "selling their body" statement. They are selling their body to have sex. We men may not have much emotions tied to it but for every girl, especially the 19 yo or 20 yo, it's not that easy to separate emotion and sex and look at it only from the perspective of a job / money. I think a girl becomes very professional after many years of doing this. At that time, they do act the way you are describing it. However, the journey to separate emotions and sex is not the same for every girl. Some make it and I guess, many don't. So while they learn how to navigate it, they resort to unhealthy habits.

Also, the professions you mentioned actually have a proper degree that one can obtain to gain skills in it. There is bachelors in communications, fashion, designing, media, and journalism. This is the navigation part that prepares a person to enter that profession. Wish there had been a bachelors in prostitution then the girls would be adequately prepared to deal with the hazards of this profession. And we punters can also hire girls graduating from Ivy Leagues for top service. LOL.

Anyway, I feel, in this profession, we men must associate emotions in a big way to understand what the girls are going through.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2358639]For 40 years? Amazing. I start with escorts when I was 45 , and later in FKK land, but, like good french wine even I don t drink, I still improve my times for climbing on this Summer, even a bit disappointed by my time today from Prato to Stelvio, when I improved from Bormio to Stelvio, even starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, after 5 kms I lost all my water, good climbing time but I killed my body. I don t like when girls want to play music, room is not a discotheque for me, I prefer to look at their reactions, listen to noises even I don t care about moaning, but breathe, belly moving, liquid coming, how they put their body. And of course, when we enter the room, I try to make girls relax. Usually after 2 minutes, they let me do.[/QUOTE]Cycling from Prato to Stelvio, I'm impressed. Without stopping / walking? Regarding music, I don't mind, if I like the music, if I don't, I ask for no mucic.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2358845]I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.[/QUOTE]That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.

Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.

If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2358827]Yes, Melissa is also great to talk to. She is one of the few FKK girls with a brain! I think she is in Austria now (GT Vienna or Babylon).

Rock.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is higher level than average to chat, not really in bed. She told me when business is slow she moves, not first time, but if she chose Vienna, she will come back. Even in Wellcum which is number 1 in Austria, business seemed slow on Ferragosto party which is the day of the year, many guys in the garden, many girls waiting, maybe because of really average casting, lack of pretty faces like at Sharks, but some really beautiful natural tits, and no Mila. Ro ex Marina. Slo for me, unfortunately, I wanted to test her, to know if it was real at the end of our single room, if she remembers. Also met at GT. De, 2 really lovely GT Vienna girls with higher level in bed than Melissa, they told business in Vienna is not anymore what it was, maybe because too much upselling there. No upselling for both at Bruggen.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2358956]Cycling from Prato to Stelvio, I'm impressed. Without stopping / walking? Regarding music, I don't mind, if I like the music, if I don't, I ask for no mucic.[/QUOTE]Stelvio Cima Coppi 2760 high is 24 kms from Prato with superb road with curves on last 8 kms, legend in Italia. In Romania, they have something like Gafarasan also with many curves. Stelvio from Bormio is shorter, 21,5 kms, but 3 last kms over 2500 high after passo Umbrail to enter Switzerland without control, are more difficult, but nothing compare to legendary Mortirolo and Zoncolan which are not on Col Gentile di Mione 28% climbing difficulty. I nearly killed my car engine climbing, not human for a car, but I m happy of my new playfield found, it will take me one more Summer to get used to such violent pain burning in body and head, but if car, even nearly in red zone for refreshing engine liquid, could climb, I also want to climb with my passion, even 34/36 is not so easy. When I m with Davide Formolo who is Peter Sagan Bora team leader on Giro, he worth between top 5 and 10 on legendary Giro of Italia, for my holidays on Stelvio and also with Swedish women ski team, I m sure he won t come to play in cemetery col Gentile. My Summer holidays since years, to relax, like free riding the most difficult spots I can reach on Winter, Verbier, La Grave, and as reminds me Kate, maybe one day Alaska jumping from helicopter. Great holidays to dream and relax mind, FKK can t compete and my girls know. After they can touch my belly or ass and say: You are very hard, for sure they don t see so many fit, even among 20's guys, and of course it helps for bed.

Any ideas how long the remodel is suppose to take?

[QUOTE=Canary;2359054]Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what my thoughts are, Canary. I will not be back until the bar is finished.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2358845]I was at Sharks on Monday. Maybe only 40 girls. Some arriving girls disappeared immediately when they saw the construction work. Many of them were not informed by the Sharks-management. The general mood was somehow down, you could see it on the faces of the girls.[/QUOTE]Not nice when girls have to pay more than 100 to enter to work + taxi or sleeping. Until when are works? Bar was perfect to turn around whole day for 15 hours to train to marathon for me. Works were longer than told at Oase, for no big improvement for me, I even lost sky sports news screen in lounge for only porn now. I'm happy at Sharks, no porn on screens, only real sports. Best improvement would be some pretty girls. They didn't take discount ticket for entry only 45 on Monday?

You may want to avoid FKKs around Frankfurt starting September 12th and the following 10 days.

[QUOTE=Canary;2359054]That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.

Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.

If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canary;2359054]That was exactly my opinion on Monday except the few girls that remained "cleaned up" as they we being snapped up regularly.

Although it wasn't as bad as I thought the usual atmosphere was affected and as a result I won't be returning until the bar construction work is completed.

If they as rumored next reconstruct the reception area and VIP zone I won't be too bothered but the bar area is the focal part of the Club so I won't be returning until mid September.[/QUOTE]I agree never been in the VIP zone and the reception area doesn't make a difference. You think it won't be until mid September when the bar is reopened?

DE blonde, anyone knows if she is still in Sharks? I will be there first week of September.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2359197]Until when are works?[/QUOTE] Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up. So around 1st September? It for sure will be completed within start of the auto show (IAA Exhibition) which this year is from 12th till 22nd September. If not, it would be extreme mismanagement.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2359344]Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up. So around 1st September? It for sure will be completed within start of the auto show (IAA Exhibition) which this year is from 12th till 22nd September. If not, it would be extreme mismanagement.[/QUOTE]So they have until 11 September to finish. I remember IAA 2015 when I met Karolina. Pol, Ester started at Sharks at this time, no big business at Sharks from IAA 2015. I think Oase and Palace are clubs which get the most from messes.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2359227]I agree never been in the VIP zone and the reception area doesn't make a difference. You think it won't be until mid September when the bar is reopened?[/QUOTE]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2359398]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.[/QUOTE]On my last visit, when we arrived upstairs with Angel, a girl was already waiting, so we went to Vip zone, a room with jacuzzi was free, we did foreplay in jacuzzi, my first time with jacuzzi at Sharks, no extra to pay, but not my first room in VIP zone, never paid any extra. Enjoyable 1h30 for 150 with Angel. I think 3 or 4 rooms in this zone. Most important to improve at Sharks for me, when the club is good for me, is the casting. More beauties.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2359398]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.[/QUOTE]Perhaps the VIP Area gets more use than we all realise? Anyone know if it does? I have to agree that from my limited number of visits the area appears to be mostly unused.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2359398]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.[/QUOTE]More importantly, hopefully they obtained city permits to make these changes this time. Otherwise they might end up with another massage area like the entrance of the now defunct 5-6 nice ground floor backside rooms (that were built about a year back) became LOL. Such a waste of such nicer rooms!

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2359313]DE blonde, anyone knows if she is still in Sharks? I will be there first week of September.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I heard she has moved to another club.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2359485]I heard she has moved to another club.[/QUOTE]Mandy returned to Stuttgart? She tried GT while ago, but didn't stay. Would be loss for Sharks, even not pretty enough for me, but nice behavior. I thought she got good business at Sharks, maybe too many only 50.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2359398]If they have any sense, in my opinion: They'll take that entire so-called "VIP Area" and re-construct the whole deck into a number of new rooms.[/QUOTE]I've always been intrigued as to how much the VIP area costs as there's no info on the website and during my numerous visits to Sharks I've never seen anyone use it.

Probably a waste of money for me as it's money that could be better spent on "entertainment" with the ladies but as I said the cost and facilities have always interested me as I know very little about the so called VIP area.

[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2359485]I heard she has moved to another club.[/QUOTE]Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.

Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke.

The Garden of Eden in Dietzenbach has agreed to close for the day so the after ceremony festivities can be held there; we hope all of you can attend. :D

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2359523]Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.

Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke.

The Garden of Eden in Dietzenbach has agreed to close for the day so the after ceremony festivities can be held there; we hope all of you can attend. [/QUOTE]Even I never repeated with her, because no wow for look nor in bed, only really trying to please for sex, German profile, lack of emotions compare to some Romanians, but I find not fair, according to her nice behavior, to associate her with low level girls used to be fucked AO in less than 15 mn by more than 10 guys each day in low level risky for health RTC. Mandy worth higher level for my single experience with her. So You don t know where she moved? If she is not just on holidays, holidays time.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2359344]Rumours are renovations are completed within three weeks from start-up.[/QUOTE]What I can't work out from the rumours is if it's 3 weeks for the bar or 3 weeks in total I. E. It's possible the bar will be finished sooner.

Doesn't sound like they are installing AC which seems to be most people complaints. Apart from the slow service I had no problem with the bar area.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2359523]Guys, I am sorry to report that Mandy was so impressed with the cars that Gino rents when he comes to Europe that she took off with him for good and Gino and I have teamed up and we will be getting married to Mandy, Amira and Diana in a 5 way wedding ceremony that will be held at Freude in Bochum where there is plenty of seating for all. The owner of Freude is requesting that all men dress in tuxedos and shower shoes. Gino and I are trying to switch the venue to Dietzenbach for the day so more men from Hessen can come and I have a plumber on call 24/7 now for when ' the hot water breaks' and I also have a carpenter I have hired to repair the three broken couches where the footers have broken.

Gino and I have also enrolled Diana and Amira in one of London's top English schools so we have delayed the wedding until the late summer of 2021 and Gino and I will spend the next 6 months studying Romanian in Bucharest and we will be enrolling in German school in Duisburg for the 6 months after that as it is very cheap to live there. All languages will be covered and for full communication without any of the girls pimps using their FB IM or WhatsApps and the honeymoon will be held in Milan and Venice and all are welcome to come enjoy it with us as we need as many ' vashers' as possible. Danke. [/QUOTE]And I guess the bachelor party will be held in Sharks? LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2359396]So they have until 11 September to finish. I remember IAA 2015 when I met Karolina. Pol, Ester started at Sharks at this time, no big business at Sharks from IAA 2015. I think Oase and Palace are clubs which get the most from messes.[/QUOTE]That is my experience as well, I have taken refuge at Sharks during Messes. Oase and Palace become somewhat sausage fests; hopefully, IAA 2019 will resuscitate Mainhatten.

Adding to KK's post and invite below, FYI guys, Mandy is looking a for a church to turn to. If you can recommend a nice, fun and accepting church in Hesse or NRW or somewhere in bewteen, that would be great. She realized that religious beliefs are one of the core values of an embracing social group, and getting ready and looking forward for the upcoming 5-way wedding.

Also, we are about to start taking applications for someone to perform the wedding ceremony, so please send your applications (free-form, write what you like but please add your relevant credentials and experiences) directly to KK who is final decision maker to select the minister. Vielen dank.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2359663]Also, we are about to start taking applications for someone to perform the wedding ceremony, so please send your applications (free-form, write what you like but please add your relevant credentials and experiences) directly to KK who is final decision maker to select the minister. Vielen dank.[/QUOTE]Already picked out.

As to the minister, who else? Alice!! I can't guarantee she will be on time so Ina will be present to fill in as needed as she most certainly will be in attendance as will all the Gypsies from Dietzenbach; and one of those vans who drives the girls around to the different clubs when they need to staff them will bring in the ones I fancy from up in the NRW.

The best men will be Amira's manager, Diana's manager (both are no problem for me to send the invite to) and as to Mandy I don't know her very well like the other two and will defer to you to pick the third best man.

As to the bridesmaids I will have Dana and Anna (no worries, Dana will make sure Anna is ready on time, can promise that) and I reckon it should be quite easy for you to get the third bridesmaid which shall be Evita.

And can't forget the photographer. Give me some time to work on that I need to try to work some magic as I would really like to find Bitumen to do the honours; no one out there can handle videos and photos as well as him. I'll try to locate him if you don't mind.

In the meantime careful driving your fancy cars, my friends radar was going off nonstop on the A3 the other day (coming south).

Hi guys,

Just want to share my adventure today, I've been reading a lot the threads lately, so I'm kind of giving back to the community.

I decided to test as much FKK as I can in one day while I stay in Frankfurt the weekend. Not pushing too hard, but just moving on when I was done in one place, going to another.

So I did Sharks, then Oase, and then Palace.

Well my overall impression is that the best experience was at Sharks.

When I go to an FKK, I wish to find girls with amazing looks. So the LU is important for me, I want to have choice and good options.

The LU at Sharks was the richest one between the three.

I came early this Saturday, around 14:00 and there was about 25 girls. Just a bit less guys. Girls kept arriving, they were more when I left around 18:00. Also it was the only place where there was no upsell, I got a nice service from girls, even though I did 30 mn sessions.

Yes, there is an ongoing renovation, the girl at the entry warned me right as I was preparing my entry fee, but it did not bother me anyhow.

And last, the food was shity. Seriously don't go there for food. It was meals from the breakfast until 17:00, a crab salad with smoked salmon mixed in, juices, mozzarella and overgrilled sausages.

I had 2 sessions at sharks. Both were good. I don't remember the name of the first girl, but the second was roxy.

She is a stunner. Really my type, amazing big ass, nice tits, a firm body, very lovely and willing to satisfy, BBBJ, also funny to chat with.

I wish I had taken more time with her, because the rest of the girls that I met later where no match.

I don't want to review Oase and Palace here, but just to give you guys a comparison, I visited them later in the night. Oase at 19:30 and Palace around 22, there was no match in terms of LU, it was way worse.

And the upselling was there every time. It peaced me off, especially after having a good service at normal rate, next time I'll just stick longer at sharks waiting for another shift of girls.

There are those that work in the day, and others that come for night time, so it changes.

Also, in terms of disposition, I feel like there are more options where to stay and to move at sharks. It's easy to change places and viewing spots, as there are different corners, areas, stairs, etc.

Anyway I guess you guys understood. Today my preference went to sharks. Will share later when I visit another time. Cheers!

On the Sharks website there is a note.

We build for you!

Until 22.08. 19.

Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.

So looks like the bar will be back soon.

[QUOTE=Tokoum;2359794]Hi guys, Just want to share my adventure today[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, very much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2360065]On the Sharks website there is a note.

We build for you!

Until 22.08. 19.

Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.

So looks like the bar will be back soon.[/QUOTE]Thanks Saturn11. Great to read that the renovation work at Sharks will complete soon.

[QUOTE=Tokoum;2359794]Hi guys,

Well my overall impression is that the best experience was at Sharks.
Also it was the only place where there was no upsell, I got a nice service from girls, even though I did 30 mn sessions.
. Cheers![/QUOTE]What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2359699]


In the meantime careful driving your fancy cars, my friends radar was going off nonstop on the A3 the other day (coming south).[/QUOTE]Europcar just sent me the 20 E each bill for two tickets on the A3 from my May visit. They nailed me for gong 6 & 7 KM over the limit on the A3 somewhere around the Neustadt area.

Hi everyone,

First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!

M.

[QUOTE=Tp273;2360146]What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.[/QUOTE]Sharks and Oase and many other clubs rate is 50/30 with kissing and natural BJ which is still very standard in Germany. Maybe not at Artemis Berlin but I never experienced there. At Oase, desk will inform You about this rate.

[QUOTE=Tp273;2360149]Europcar just sent me the 20 E each bill for two tickets on the A3 from my May visit. They nailed me for gong 6 & 7 KM over the limit on the A3 somewhere around the Neustadt area.[/QUOTE]Hi. There is a separate thread on car hire in Germany which you might find useful. The 20 euro bill for each infringement is the car hire company "admin" charge for telling Police you were the driver. If you were only 7 kph over the limit on A3 it is very unlikely you will get a fine for speeding.

Tokoum. Don't forget for your next exploration there is a whole host of other clubs to explore which, being off the main tourist circuit, can offer something different in terms of service / price levels.

Hi everyone,

In Frankfurt today, and I am between going to Sharks and Palace. I have been to Palace about 3 years ago, and enjoyed my time there (still had a pool, as I read it has been redone).

As there is a renovation at Sharks, I am a bit worried about going there to find a poor LU, and it is Monday. August.

Any tips?

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360314]Hi. There is a separate thread on car hire in Germany which you might find useful. The 20 euro bill for each infringement is the car hire company "admin" charge for telling Police you were the driver. If you were only 7 kph over the limit on A3 it is very unlikely you will get a fine for speeding.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I bitched to the corporate travel Dept. About the charge and they contacted someone in Avis and all of a sudden there was no charge. Hell, I couldn't read it.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2360345]Interesting. I bitched to the corporate travel Dept. About the charge and they contacted someone in Avis and all of a sudden there was no charge. Hell, I couldn't read it.[/QUOTE]They can easily waive the charge if they want. Guess it depends how valuable the customer is: corporate customers will have the edge here.

[QUOTE=Tp273;2360146]What was the fee for 30 min & what was the service? For all my visits to Sharks & Oase after the new law 30 min was 50 E for basic covered service, It was always extra for BBBJ & kissing.[/QUOTE]I never ever had to pay extra for BBBJ at 50 EUR sessions in last 2-3 years. You just have to negotiate it before going into room. I only remember one girl who refused it. Out of many. And I mean many.

Of course there are some girls who only do 100/30, but that's a different story.

[QUOTE=Monroe01;2360203]Hi everyone,

First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!

M.[/QUOTE]You are misreading the website, it's 4 am and 5 am it closes.

Saturday will have the most girls but also the most men, so you might have to wait for a room. Fridays are busy also.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360243]Sharks and Oase and many other clubs rate is 50/30 with kissing and natural BJ which is still very standard in Germany. Maybe not at Artemis Berlin but I never experienced there. At Oase, desk will inform You about this rate.[/QUOTE]Hey. Just wanted to add that most girls will tell you plain off that there's no kissing at 60 for 30 minutes at Artemis. Maybe its an add on. I am not sure but basic is CBJ and sex.

I am a regular at Artemis and have a select few who I go with and get the service I want all inclusive at 60 for 30 minutes and no upsell. I don't do anal or CIM which is an extra for sure but not my taste.

I still remember my first time in Berlin and at Artemis when the girl says what the fuck are you doing trying to kiss me. That's not part of it. I was so shocked that I just used my hand to finish and left the room embarrassed not knowing what the rules were.

Then figured out how so many men ask for kissing and the women would loudly say NO kissing. Just to embassy them.

[QUOTE=SoberWorld;2360499]Hey. Just wanted to add that most girls will tell you plain off that there's no kissing at 60 for 30 minutes at Artemis. Maybe its an add on. I am not sure but basic is CBJ and sex.

I am a regular at Artemis and have a select few who I go with and get the service I want all inclusive at 60 for 30 minutes and no upsell. I don't do anal or CIM which is an extra for sure but not my taste.

I still remember my first time in Berlin and at Artemis when the girl says what the fuck are you doing trying to kiss me. That's not part of it. I was so shocked that I just used my hand to finish and left the room embarrassed not knowing what the rules were.

Then figured out how so many men ask for kissing and the women would loudly say NO kissing. Just to embassy them.[/QUOTE]Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.

[QUOTE=Facer12;2359224]You may want to avoid FKKs around Frankfurt starting September 12th and the following 10 days.[/QUOTE]Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2360539]Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.[/QUOTE]You don't have to think about that. What about when you lick her knowing that so many dicks fucked her?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2360539]Most of the time I will not kiss a prostitute even she often propose it for free (usually I do long rooms) not my cup of tea knowing that she just sucked so many dicks.[/QUOTE]Apparently human saliva is more lethal than a dog's. That's why a doctor prefers to be told a patient has been bitten by a dog and not a human. So your conclusion is rational. Me, I just take my chances as to where the girl I am in love with for 30 minutes has been.:)

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2360385]I never ever had to pay extra for BBBJ at 50 EUR sessions in last 2-3 years. You just have to negotiate it before going into room. I only remember one girl who refused it. Out of many. And I mean many.

Of course there are some girls who only do 100/30, but that's a different story.[/QUOTE]I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2360065]On the Sharks website there is a note.

We build for you!

Until 22.08. 19.

Counter currently under renovation. Drinks in the outdoor area.

So looks like the bar will be back soon.[/QUOTE]I can't find this information on their website (maybe they deleted the information?) Can someone please confirm? Planning to make a trip really soon.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360813]I guess you have many sessions you could report on if you wished, but prefer not to. But I wonder if you might be willing maybe say whether you got the BBBJ service included in 50430 sessions: I am not sure if I have read your report correctly.This would help members like me who do not go to FKK so much

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I do not go to FKK much either. In last 2-3 years I probably had 50-70 rooms, more than half of this with 2 girls at a time. Because it's always more fun for me. Some girls were / are sometimes repeated, so I assume probably 100 different girls, maybe a bit less or more. Say, 70% in Sharks, 20% in Oase, 10% in LR and GT.

Most of these sessions were / are 50430 for each girl. In all these sessions I always had BBBJ included. The only thing that changed after the introduction of new law is when I decide to take a girl to the room, I always ask something like "I hope BBBJ is not a problem for you? Answers may be "sure" or "I usually don't do it, but with you it's no problem", but it's always "yes".

I only recall one girl who insisted on extra, she got no deal from me. So 1 of maybe 100. I'm not Brad Pitt, I'm average looking guy in early 40's.

I'm always up to 50430. More than 30 minutes with the same girl is boring for me. I've tried 1 hour once but then just stopped it after 40 minutes. Too long. Next girl please. 30 minutes is a sweet spot for me.

I'm not a big fan of paying 100430, as service is the same. I've tried 50430 and 100430 with the same girls, just to see if it would be different. It's the same. Great provider is still great for 50.

Still some girls charge 100430 and just don't do 50430 rooms at all. It's alright for me if I'm really attracted to the girl or if I get some nice extra (for example I had 100+100430 session with Jessica and her friend (probably Eylis was the name, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyway they are hanging together a lot, so regulars can correct me if I'm wrong about the name). That was a major fun. The only time I've got real lesbi action in FKK during threesome. One girl would really eat other's pussy, not just giving "Romanian kisses" while being banged in doggie etc. Worth every penny. Highly recommended. Will probably repeat some time. Damn, now I recall how good it was and I think I will repeat it next time I'm it Sharks. I'm not that much attracted by Jessica's face (another girl is more pretty), but that threesome action was great.

With 100430 you obviously don't have to negotiate BBBJ. One girl (Vanessa) tried to give me CBJ in 100430 session (was not worth 100, it's no more than 50 girl). When she did it I've just laughed and said "WTF, baby? Are you kidding me? Take it away. " She laughed back and performed BBBJ with no problem.

So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.

The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360884]The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).[/QUOTE]Thank you! Then I will maybe go this weekend.

I have been to FKK in Dusseldorf, Berlin and Roermond.

Do you guys know if the girls are back in the clubs around Frankfurt?

Would you recommend any club over the other because of the late holiday in Germany?

Have been thinking to visit Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan / palace.

Do you recommend me to make my FKK debut in Frankfurt in the end of September instead?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360808]Apparently human saliva is more lethal than a dog's. That's why a doctor prefers to be told a patient has been bitten by a dog and not a human. So your conclusion is rational. Me, I just take my chances as to where the girl I am in love with for 30 minutes has been.[/QUOTE]Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2360638]Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?[/QUOTE]No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.

IAA should be good casting time.

Thanks for checking Optimist. Good to know.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2360638]Why would visiting during the auto show be a bad thing?[/QUOTE]More guys than girls, skyrocketing price on Hotels etc.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2360862]
So my summary is: BBBJ is included it 50430 sessions at Sharks with basically every 50430 girl if you dare to negotiate it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for typing all this up. As Optimist says, this helps the rest of us who don't go that often.

I put you in the category of the guys that exude confidence, seem fun, and are easy to be with. They generally get more than other guys. Maybe it's the way you look at the ladies, or how you greet. This is the essence of the YMMV, rubrik. Maybe they remember seeing you and so it's OK. You take two girls, so there is always the promise of more money spent later. It's easy and breaks up the boredom. The next guy could take one of the two girls and she looks at him and says NAH, CBJ, and that's just the way it goes. Maybe you show them a bit of respect when you talk to them. I seem to always luck out with kissing. Had girls say they don't kiss and tell me in the reviews not to include that they kissed me. (and I'm really old, maybe it's PITY).

There are so many intangibles, but bottom line, for the rest of us, is that if you ask for it and they say no, you understand that the next girl "might" say yes. I am sure we have all seen the type of guy go up and say 50 for 30 minute fuck, let's go and then they wonder why the girls starts out unfriendly or very mechanical. You have a quick amount of time during the meet and greet and the walk to the room to get them to feel you care about them. At least for 30 minutes. Ths goes a long way in this sex world. On the other hand, I think Kosher Kowboy in a Frankfurt post talked about a lady who wanted 10 Euros more for covered French: "Takes longer to get a guy to come". .

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360928]No, it will be full casting because girls want messe business, but messe give mostly business to Oase, Palace and a bit Mainhattan, more than Sharks.

IAA should be good casting time.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by casting? Or are you say the girls will work at the others clubs and not Sharks?

[QUOTE=WorldPeaceNow;2357932]Here's another one I never realized. Chronic rejection. They chase us and we turn them down. Now even though they appear defiant, they are just as much affected by rejection as we are (when we approach girls in the real world). Or to put it another way, it's like when you are looking for a job and sometimes all you get is a string of rejections from the companies. They have to do this for every client. Repeat this for 5 or 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, I think it would take a toll on anyone. A smoke helps them combat the nervousness of approaching a stranger for a job and deal with rejection of employment.[/QUOTE]If a WG is legitimately above average attractiveness, even a 95 percent rejection rate at FKKs would not shake her self-esteem or as you say "take a toll on her". At a big club like Sharks, I would say easily 60-70 percent of the LU, if they were to be compared to civilian counterparts of the same age group, would be in the top ten percentile of physical attractiveness.

Let's say such a WG gets rejected by 30 mongers in one day and only gets two 60 min rooms. The very next day she can post something to social media and get 200 likes from various strangers. Or she can go to a civilian nightclub and have a one-night stand with a 25 year old civilian male who is physically more attractive than all 30 mongers who rejected her the previous day. Even a girl who is an optics "6" or "7" can create a profile on Tinder, and three hours later, she will have a few hundred to a thousand likes. Statistically there will probably be a man amongst those Tinder likes who is richer than all 30 mongers that rejected her the previous day. My point is that the rejection she faces in the FKK club can be instantly cancelled out by the positive feedback loop she receives the moment she steps back into the real world.

Also there could also be many reasons why a monger would reject a WG that are not due to her being ugly or fat. Sometimes it comes down to timing. For instance, my first 60-90 minutes, I may choose to say "no" or "maybe later" to every WG, simply because I want to survey the entire LU and identify my top three targets. I may so "no" to the hottest WG in the LU because my ATF just returned from a 18 month break. I may say "no" or "maybe later" to the second hottest WG in the LU, if for instance, (1) I just popped 30 minutes previous or (2) I plan to be in the club another ten hours that day, and I want to remain free and available for the hottest WG that day (I. E. Be ready to pounce as soon as her whale pays her at the money locker).

What hurts is the fact that she only made 200 EUR the previous day, not that 95 percent of the mongers rejected her. Now if we were to change the numbers slightly and say our hypothetical WG was rejected 30 times but got two five hour rooms, that same 95 percent rejection rate probably wouldn't affect her one bit.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2360905]Saliva kill bacteria. If I don't want to kiss a girl, I don't want to have sex with her and I don't want she touches me.[/QUOTE]Not always working well, what about viruses? Also I don t kiss girls that I pay for having sex it is not only a question of getting sick.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2360668]You don't have to think about that. What about when you lick her knowing that so many dicks fucked her?[/QUOTE]I hope the girls I am going with are not doing AO, therefor it is not the same for me than to getting DT without condom, or so many load of sperms in the month. For me the longest part of my FKK life is behind me, I am more focusing on normal relations, selected escorts, hopefully after so many years of mongering I understood that you just can buy mechanical sex which is a bit too short for me. For me me since 2017, when I started to control my sex addiction, so many other more positive things to experience outside the FKK scene like time to do more sport, time to have more hobbies, over landing for example, travelling around the world, more time for my family and on top of that I saved a lot of cash.

This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2361035]This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.[/QUOTE]I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2360991]What do you mean by casting? Or are you say the girls will work at the others clubs and not Sharks?[/QUOTE]Most of girls will return for IAA business, but this business seem more for Oase than Sharks. No crowd on IAA 2015 at Sharks, lucky to have Karolina. Pol very free for me, even crying from her pimp messages.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2360982]More guys than girls, skyrocketing price on Hotels etc.[/QUOTE]Crowded only on evening and not much anymore.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2360884]The front page of the website still says "expected until 22.08" (translation).[/QUOTE]Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2361044]I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.[/QUOTE]I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2361103]Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.[/QUOTE]Oase works also took much longer time than planned. Quite slow business until Friday 30 August, still holidays time.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2361044]I think you are a real Latin lover, I can never get with a new girl (with a veteran ***** it is not a problem) for my first session with her a BBBJ for 50, but I am old, dirty.[/QUOTE]Not sure profile name is always according to who is behind. I m not Russian, even I love Russia for culture, women and of course museum town Peter. US are so poor culture compare to Russia and I really loved to learn Russian at school. Long time ago but I didn't forget.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2361035]This repeating discussion of what's included in a 30 minutes session for 50 e is pretty much redundant by now. Anyone who is just average level in negotiating prices of any service in outside life, will also get the standard 30 min 50e service inside FKK, which includes BBBJ, DATY, DFK etc etc with only extra being CIM (50 e) and Anal (100 e) from almost all girls in any German FKK including Sharks, Oase etc. I got that in numerous visits in both clubs in last month and also this month. Only one girl in Sharks asked extra 50 e for BBBJ, obviously I didn't go with her. If I can get full standard service for 50 e for 30 minutes, any bozo can get that too, I'm not any smarter than an average bozo. But if anyone likes to spend more on the same service, that's his choice I guess.[/QUOTE]I concur. It's not that hard at all.

But did you find it just as easy at Palace and Mainhattan as at World / Sharks / Oase?

And will it be just as easy on high attendance days during exhibtions in September when F / M ratios are all wrong as it is during summer months?

[QUOTE=Shark16;2361334]I concur. It's not that hard at all.

But did you find it just as easy at Palace and Mainhattan as at World / Sharks / Oase?

And will it be just as easy on high attendance days during exhibtions in September when F / M ratios are all wrong as it is during summer months?[/QUOTE]At Sharks.

At least for me. It is true that you can find plenty of girls that will give this for 50 E /30 minutes but there are plenty that will hold out for an hour 100 E /60 minutes and then there is a third group that is holding out for 100 E /30 minutes but will allow CIM too. And then there were even a few that wanted 100 E /30 minutes and if you CIM they wanted another 50 E! I have to go look at my old report and it was last but that is what I remember and Simon2001 was there as my witness. I We said hell no to those girls. I did another girl (the Brazilian blond the Guacha) that balked at my 100 E / hour at first. She finally relented and gave in. During the session, while she was giving me Russian with her oiled boobs, that if I came on her body that would be another 30 E. Repeat customers may be different. One girl that would only do 100 E /1 hour session gave me second session for 50 E /30 min the next week.

I don't speak German. I get over once or twice a year.

Oh and I write reports wherever and whenever I have paid sex with escorts all over the world.

[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2353426]Asian Bruddah,

The rate is 50 Euro for 30 minutes. The Standard service is blow job with condom and intercourse with condom. Some girls will give you a blow job without condom and intercourse with condom. Some guys prefer blow job with condom because they don't want a chance catch anything. They maybe married or it is just their preference. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If the girl is very attractive or high demand, she may want 100 Euro for 30 minutes for Standard service.

Usually, 100 Euro will get you 60 minutes. The girl will usually provide blow job without condom, kissing (sometimes deep French kissing), sometimes licking your balls and 69 then intercourse with condom. Talk to the girl and ask her what service she will provide before you go to the room.

If you think you will cum quickly, I would only look for a girl that will be okay with 50 Euro for 30 minutes. Most girls will only allow you to cum Once. You should plan on having sex with 3 girls. 150 - 300 Euros. Best deal in the World.

The rule is: If you paid for 30 minutes of time, you are entitled to that. German's are sticklers about rules however it's up to you. If the girl is a hustler, after you cum, she will try to get you out of the room quickly. If you spent some time talking with her in advance and she enjoys your company, she may spend the rest of the time giving you a massage..[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2361240]Oase works also took much longer time than planned. Quite slow business until Friday 30 August, still holidays time.[/QUOTE]Sharks is smarter, they chose the slowest time of the year to do their renovations.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2361634]Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.[/QUOTE]Asian Bruddah,

If you got to Sharks on August 28th, Wednesday, cover is 50 Euros all day. You should have a good choice of women. Plan on going in the afternoon and leaving late.

Watch the Youtube video showing, "How to get to Sharks," from Frankfurt. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9rGXfzld88.[/URL] The Japanese guy that made the video took the train and taxi. The Cream colored Taxi's will be on the right side of the Darmstadt train station and cost about 10 Euros to Sharks. When you leave from Sharks, usually there will be a Sharks Black Mercedes taxi. He will charge you fixed rate 10 Euros to go to the train station. If you want to go back to Frankfurt, the regular taxi's will be waiting closer to the street. Your fare should cost fare about 50 Euros.

Have fun and right your report!

Aloha.

[QUOTE=Wetwetwet18;2361634]Thanks everyone who has given me lots of tips. I think I'll be ready for sharks next week! Is any one planning on going on the 28th of August? Would be awesome to meet some experienced mongers.[/QUOTE]Bruddah,

If you get lost at the airport or in town, most Young Germans speak English, just ask for directions. Don't ask them where is FKK or the Redlight area. Most taxi drivers are immigrants and speak very limited English but will know and will take you there.

At the Frankfurt Airport, Frankfurt Main train station or Darmstadt, if you need help taking the train look for the DB (Deutsch Bahn) Office or booth. They speak English and they will help you take the correct train.

Have Fun.

Arrived around 7 pm and noticed that bar is still under construction. Anyway there is no construction-special-offer, entrance lady said that it will be finished end of the week. Which did not help me for the day of course. So all drinks have been provided outside, cause it has been a wonderful warm summer night, I did not care about that. Due to limited space inside all garden places have been very busy, even the girls who are a bit shy to see sunlight sometimes had to come out.

So this evening I have been with two Romanians, both 19 years old. And a difference like night and day. They called herself Elsa and Claudia.

Elsa is a beauty on first view. Slim, but not too skinny, and a beautiful face and smile like you wished to have from your girlfriend when you have been young. She does not smoke, her boobs are small but natural, no silicon. Short: that's heaven. But service was cold as ice. Elsa, the ice queen she was doing everything mechanical, kissing was more a touching of lips then a real kiss. Anyway stayed 1 h /100 - this was the deal before. A bit overpriced only for the cute smile.

Claudia is not that beauty on first view. Maybe a little bit plump, which is in this age still OK, but in some years she will have maybe some problems. Boobs are also without silicon and maybe same size, but because of more body volumina they appear different. We went out from smoky room and stayed some minutes on a chair in the garden, starting nice kissing over there. In the room she gave a fantastic service including deep french kisses. Unfortunately she is smoker anyway it was a wonderful time. And her smile is as sweet as the other one, you only need a little longer to realize it. Before we agreed to 30 minutes 50 euros, I tipped her 20 because she did not watch the time very seriously, much loner stay then expected, and the garden-time was minimum 10-15 minutes as well.

Went home with a smile.

Sunday evening very fine.

Left without having a really cute red head, petite and lithe nice legs, I think Romanian or Moldovan.

But next time (she is back in three weeks). Her friend Ariana, a tall brunette, darker skin, used to model (she says) was sexy to be sure, and she did a great job on top, but the room was far too hot (no window). Didn't cum but she is a fine looker.

Met also Eliana, who comes from a town near the Volga River, so Russian, but not from Volgograd. She is a sexy looking older (maybe 32), a lovely blond. She reminded me of a very sexy Romanian from about one year ago named Elizabeth.

The star of the evening? Luisa, a rather stunning German blond, gorgeous legs, blue eyes, drop dead look while BBBJ, hot in both mish and on top. Also not a clock watcher. Nice banter too.

Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.

Could have stayed longer but work beckons tomorrow.

Heading back next weekend however, by which time the renovations should be done.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2362917]..........Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service...........[/QUOTE]That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2363174]That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.[/QUOTE]Maybe rate for beauties, when GND have to try to get business. Nevertheless cute Angel, on my last visit, only told she didn't want for only 30 mn, but club rate for our time including jacuzzi foreplay in VIP room. Beauties are less expensive for me than GND I don't want to pay for. I don t pay for girls who would not attract me in real life. I just want beauties.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2362917]Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.[/QUOTE]I don't confess to being an expert as I live in the UK but I have been to Sharks 6/7 times this year and can honestly say that I find it easier finding girls who accept the 50/100 rate (including BBBJ, DFK) than finding the greedy ones who want 100 for 30 minutes.

If it was standard to pay 100/30 I wouldn't attend Sharks or any other venue in Germany.

Even with an erotic massage some girls are happy to include it as standard.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2363174]That pricing is for the uninitiated who I hope will continue to pay that amount so that the girls will be wealthy, healthy and content when I next meet them.[/QUOTE]I've just noticed that since the law change, girls are asking for more than what was typical back before 2017.

Especially if the ladies are particularly attractive.

So expect yourself to make those wealthy healthy and content contributions.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2363258]I've just noticed that since the law change, girls are asking for more than what was typical back before 2017.

Especially if the ladies are particularly attractive.

So expect yourself to make those wealthy healthy and content contributions.[/QUOTE]Prolly....NOT.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2363323]Prolly....NOT.[/QUOTE]Not everyone is a prolly, ofc here many, but some guys prefer classy girls and clubs. But this to understand seems useless to some.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2361226]I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.[/QUOTE]Correct you.

Need to be patience for 50 and ready to leave if girl does not provide and if the girl is must do list give her 100 but ask for 30 m massage or Jacuzzi extra.

[QUOTE=Monroe01;2360203]Hi everyone,

First post here on ISG. I'll be traveling to Frankfurt in a couple months and would like to find out which days would be best to go to Sharks. Would Fridays and Saturdays have the hottest girls or not necessarily? Also, does Sharks really close daily at 4 or 5 pm? Those are the hours listed on their website and that's really surprising to me that they don't operate into the night. Thanks for any information and of course I'll be reporting back when I return from Frankfurt. Thanks!

M.[/QUOTE]It is AM night is open for fun.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2362917]Sunday evening very fine.

Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK. Luisa is awesome in terms of that service.
e.[/QUOTE]I wrote a report about a year ago about this. You used to be able to entice them with an hour booking.

I remember Simon2001 and I were leaning against the bar and some of the younger hotter girls were standing around lecturing us about it. It had to do with self-worth and self-respect they explained (the money was immaterial) and if I didn't like it they said that I could go with one of the older girls. It was hard for me to accept this. There were still plenty of girls that would do 100430 with a CIM if I was able and 100 E / hour and there were still some 50430's available. But there were some girls that were doing a lot of business and they were adamant about 150 E /30 with CIM. Are the gaining momentum?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2363466]Not everyone is a prolly, ofc here many, but some guys prefer classy girls and clubs. But this to understand seems useless to some.[/QUOTE]I don't know what is a prolly, but I had one of my classiest girl at Sharks. Only 1 room to dream for 2 hours and 2 rounds with her and I followed her at Globe where she did welcome her like a charming prince, I remember how you treated me as she said, she was one of the Globe busiest superstar. Also Ilka for classy girl I got at Sharks, I remember our under the moon and stars time in the garden, hand in hand, before our first room. Unfortunately she also left, on July 2016. Sad fall for Sharks casting after Summer 2016, even Florentina, Madi2, and Tamara for 2 weeks on June 2018. Tamara was also top class girl, with different behavior, I remember our breakfast eyes in eyes.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2363591]I wrote a report about a year ago about this. You used to be able to entice them with an hour booking.

I remember Simon2001 and I were leaning against the bar and some of the younger hotter girls were standing around lecturing us about it. It had to do with self-worth and self-respect they explained (the money was immaterial) and if I didn't like it they said that I could go with one of the older girls. It was hard for me to accept this. There were still plenty of girls that would do 100430 with a CIM if I was able and 100 E / hour and there were still some 50430's available. But there were some girls that were doing a lot of business and they were adamant about 150 E /30 with CIM. Are the gaining momentum?[/QUOTE]Take and make it easy, to summarize less new fresh and may be naive girls in the clubs, Romanian girls are controlling most of the big clubs due to powerless management, even for an experienced guy like me it is difficult to get a BBBJ in a 30 minutes 50 euros session when I book her for the first time. The guys who are telling they get everything for 50 may be possible but I think they are really the type of guy the girls fall in love.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2361226]I'm with Gino on this one. In a large club like Sharks, you can always find a number of girls who will provide BBBJ and some kissing for 50. Sure, some girls will not but many others will. One just needs patience and persistence.[/QUOTE]Top stunners is the big clubs will give you BBBJ in a 30 minutes 50 euros session? May be for you but impossible for me to get it.

I would not be willing for holdout, its stupid, if the girl is charging 100 because she deserves it and who would care to go with old ugly girls. If she wants 100 for 1/2 hour, give it consider this as norm and move on. You have been paying 50 for last 8 years, I remember paying 1 euro for burger 5 years ago, but now that price is 2.50 euros, so to me I think its fair price, and girl needs to eat burger so what you say be fair stop whining enjoy your time let a girl make few bucks consider it as charity.

Beautiful girl with good service, deserves to be treated as princess.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2363652]I don't know what is a prolly, but I had one of my classiest girl at Sharks. Only 1 room to dream for 2 hours and 2 rounds with her and I followed her at Globe where she did welcome her like a charming prince, I remember how you treated me as she said, she was one of the Globe busiest superstar. Also Ilka for classy girl I got at Sharks, I remember our under the moon and stars time in the garden, hand in hand, before our first room. Unfortunately she also left, on July 2016. Sad fall for Sharks casting after Summer 2016, even Florentina, Madi2, and Tamara for 2 weeks on June 2018. Tamara was also top class girl, with different behavior, I remember our breakfast eyes in eyes.[/QUOTE]I meant Katalina did welcome me at Globe on July 2016, after our discovery at Sharks on mid April.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2363798]I would not be willing for holdout, its stupid, if the girl is charging 100 because she deserves it and who would care to go with old ugly girls. If she wants 100 for 1/2 hour, give it consider this as norm and move on. You have been paying 50 for last 8 years, I remember paying 1 euro for burger 5 years ago, but now that price is 2.50 euros, so to me I think its fair price, and girl needs to eat burger so what you say be fair stop whining enjoy your time let a girl make few bucks consider it as charity.

Beautiful girl with good service, deserves to be treated as princess.[/QUOTE]I agree with you I prefer to treat few beauties I find like princesses, unfortunately beauties are rare for me, and Romanians are the most attractive for me, more than Germans or Bulgarians, but for my few experiences in FKK land and I usually get beauties in clubs I visit, high level, real princesses don t speak about money, if they feel you treat them like they are princess, they prefer to get You for regular and I m a specialist to weekly meet few so rare princesses.

The way some of the posters here are supporting, some even promoting, increase of pricing for well established standard German FKK services, feels like they are not even customers, rather WGs with fake handles or the managers (pimps) of the WGs.

On the other hand, I'm going to try a different approach in my next visit. We all know that even the hottest and most popular WGs are also complaining many times (though not always) that business is down and they are not making as much as they used to months or years back. Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2363899]Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple![/QUOTE]You overestimate the business acumen of most of the girls LOL! The way most of them see it, they probably think they should raise prices when business is bad. And that's precisely the wrong time to raise prices!

[QUOTE=Canary;2363233]I don't confess to being an expert as I live in the UK but I have been to Sharks 6/7 times this year and can honestly say that I find it easier finding girls who accept the 50/100 rate (including BBBJ, DFK) than finding the greedy ones who want 100 for 30 minutes.

If it was standard to pay 100/30 I wouldn't attend Sharks or any other venue in Germany.

[/QUOTE]I'm with Canary, Turgid and others on this. I just do not agree that there has been any change. I was at Sharks 2 weeks ago, had a great time with Yvonna and the much sought after Scarlett. Scarlett is a young, attractive brunette with a great attitude and good service. For sure she would have rejected a 50/30 offering. I think THAT is what has changed. With a lot of girls not willing to often wait for the room / then 30 minutes /50 euros / back down / shower / wait again. Scarlett was very happy to accept the proposal of 100/60. I’ve never met any girl who isn’t in 6 years of attending FKKs

But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60).

And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.

Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices.

If I go to FKK Sharks, pay 65 in, take a girl for one hour with a 50 extra (150) my one fuck has cost me 215 euros in not very attractive surroundings with clubs often on industrial estates or in the middle of countryside (Oase) meaning travel to them should be added as a cost. It means currently that a session like this in FKK land is coming out at near 300 for a tourist. That is on CURRENT prices. It is easy to see how a stunner in Spain / Italy / Dubai now starts to not look too expensive at 240 with 17 entry = 257. No food in that price but then at Mainhattan or Oase I'm not sure I want it anyway and I often now ensure I eat well before I go to an FKK. So I include nothing for that.

So I hope those who own the FKK clubs not only in Frankfurt but around Germany read these ISG boards and realise this. Your tourist contingent will continue to make the trips if the price v value equation makes sense. In days when at Samya it was 50/30 then 25/30 (remember that? That equation benefited the punter. It has changed since the July 17 law change (what a waste of time that was) but I'm afraid FKKs will become far less attractive to visit if prices really do go up beyond 100/60. Beyond that and the pricing model will mean that other locations provide much better value for money than Germany. It is perhaps quite apt that this happens to be my 1000th post - and many of them in FKK forums... I hope the pricing models don’t change so that I am still posting in FKK forums on my 2000th post.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2363915]I'm with Canary, Turgid and others on this. I just do not agree that there has been any change. I was at Sharks 2 weeks ago, had a great time with Yvonna and the much sought after Scarlett. Scarlett is a young, attractive brunette with a great attitude and good service. For sure she would have rejected a 50/30 offering. I think THAT is what has changed. With a lot of girls not willing to often wait for the room / then 30 minutes /50 euros / back down / shower / wait again. Scarlett was very happy to accept the proposal of 100/60. Ive never met any girl who isnt in 6 years of attending FKKs

But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60).

And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.

Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices..[/QUOTE]Yes, Samya was the last for 75/ h until August 2016, when GT and LR increased from 75 to 100 when Oceans opened because they were afraid girls would move to Oceans. At Gold, I could have paid only 40 for more than 40 mn with 2 pretty and sweet GFE girls for me, but facts are one of the prettiest at Sharks, even no wow face, but Melissa ask 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 h, and yes, some girls like cute Angel, another of prettiest, don t want for 30 mn. Not a problem for me because I m not a rabbit, I prefer to take my time when I enjoy and with our VIP room jacuzzi foreplay, we had 1 h30 for club rate. I prefer quality than quantity, only 1 beauty is enough for me. All girls don t worth same rate for me, beauty worth more for me, little girls or GND don t worth I pay for. I m not into South Americans except Argentinians and Venezuelans, but did You visit Alicante clubs? Of course town and foods are paradise, for sure Germany can t compete with Spain for foods, but I'm more into Romanian fresh beauties than too fake moaning South Americans.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2363915]But the suggestion that the pretty girls will no longer entertain 100/60 standard sessions is just wrong. I have absolutely zero refusal rate on that at Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase / Palace / and Artemis (120/60). And I am also with Canary on his ending. The day a girl becomes 200/60 at a club where I'm already having to pay 65 or more for entry (70 Oase /75 Palace /80 Artemis) then I'm afraid my trips to Germany and FKK land will become few and far between.

Whilst I love the roaming naked ladies, the quality of the Line up NEVER matches that at Vive Madrid in any of the FKKs. And I can pay 17 entry there and 240 for an hour with any of the 100+ truly stunning models. And Madrid beats Frankfurt as a City hands down. Further south in Spain on the Costa Del Sol you can go to a private villa and sunbathe with up to 20 very attractive naked ladies, no entry and 250/ hour for girls who are not in an out of rooms all day long and tired or bored looking. And for those prices many will include what are considered extras in FKK clubs (not anal as that appears to always be extra) but CIM / CIF / COB / BDSM. Often standard at these prices.[/QUOTE]I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session. But, the day another 100 euros becomes attached to that as a part of base pricing, then yes I am out. I cannot agree with all of what you wrote about Spain however, which is my second favorite European destination.

Madrid is surely superior to Frankfurt as a tourist city, but for me a place like Vive Madrid cannot top the best FKK sauna clubs. Sure, you have a lot of tutes there to choose from, but for the price, I found the quality of the service and what you can expect to get to be far too uneven for the high 250 euros you quote. Too many of the girls did not want to do BBBJs, and I got no anal the last time I was at Vive, although I have gotten anal there before. Club Estark at Hotel Diana Plus was a much, much better value (and got lots of anal sex the last time). Not nearly as many girls to choose from, but I only need two or three on any one visit to be satisfied. Club Estark is my consistent favored spot in Madrid for hot girls doing dirty things.

So yes, I like Spain, but for me Germany reigns supreme in Europe when it comes to mongering. You can go to an FKK and change and shower and relax. Take your time. Use the facilities. Have something to eat and drink. And I normally never have too many problems finding a handful of girls who will deliver consistent service delivering exactly what I want (BBBJ / CIM, massage, ass fuck) over an hour-long session for around 200 to 300 euros depending. I cannot say the same thing for a place like Vive Madrid in Spain, or other like establishments in that country. Too inconsistent, not as comfortable an experience where I might want to hang out all day. When it comes to the sex alone, I choose The Fatherland.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2362917]

Pricing has changed people: expect to pay 100 for half hour for BBBJ and DFK.

[/QUOTE]This is as clear example of "Fake News" as I've seen in many moons. The pricing has NOT changed. But some of the posting here has.

Enough said.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2363960]I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session.
[/QUOTE]Welcome to my favorite sport? Hobby? Travel Destination? But I am a mere grasshopper to your venerable experience! Still, I agree. When I discuss anal with a lady, I expect to pay 200 or 250. It's not that I want to pay that much, but I find the girls who are prepared to give anal have usually "prepared" for the evening and usually treat the extra price as part of an hour or more of enjoyable sex. They seem to know you've paid extra and like the event to be sexy.

My favorite by the way is Rebecca in Coliseum if you get over there Mr. Cane! I'm not in Sharks for my first visit til November but I will share any experiences here on the board.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2364065]Welcome to my favorite sport? Hobby? Travel Destination? But I am a mere grasshopper to your venerable experience! Still, I agree. When I discuss anal with a lady, I expect to pay 200 or 250. It's not that I want to pay that much, but I find the girls who are prepared to give anal have usually "prepared" for the evening and usually treat the extra price as part of an hour or more of enjoyable sex. They seem to know you've paid extra and like the event to be sexy.

My favorite by the way is Rebecca in Coliseum if you get over there Mr. Cane! I'm not in Sharks for my first visit til November but I will share any experiences here on the board.[/QUOTE]Had many times anal, and I don't believe the girls prepare for it, how many times I had a lot of shit on the condom even the last time I had anal at Oase in the room under the relax area, no window, poor ventilation and the girl who name starts with A had even pooped a lot so a lot of. On the sofa left to the door, on the floor and the smell was just terrible after that I decided to never have anal in any FKK. Better to do it with escort at least for me.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2364033]The pricing has NOT changed. But some of the posting here has.[/QUOTE]Well said as per usual Ortos. I think controversial statements / reports regarding rip-off pricing in FKK Sharks or FKK Oase or indeed any controversial reporting can only be taken seriously if reported on by an ISG member in good standing. In other words a member who has a reporting history stretching back years (without any suspicious gaps / breaks) and not new to the board in the last 12 to 18 months. That's the way I look at any reports on ISG Germany FKK Clubs and particularly controversial reports. Obviously if The Cane, Sirioja, PayForIt or indeed your good self were to make such a statement about rip off pricing in Sharks, I would pay great attention but anyone else who falls outside the ISG Member in good standing category, I don't think I would pay much (any) attention at all. Sorry, I don't mean to offend any one. Just too much shall we say "leg-pulling" going on for me to take a much different attitude. I really believe in encouraging genuine new members on this Board as can be seen by my recent inclusion of BrownFish1234 in the Reports of Distinction Thread. A great report from a genuine new member who wants to contribute to this forum.

I think its not only important to encourage genuine new members but also to respect senior members who have been posting/reporting on this board for years (without strange breaks etc) and who have helped build this board with solid behaviour, solid posts and reports. Handles with a few months or even a year or two on this board are in no way equivalent to these senior members such as the names given as examples above.

Can I also add that I have not experienced any unusual pricing in any recent trip to this club. Certainly nothing like that indicated in a recent post.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2363960]I agree with much of what you wrote. Now, because I am an "anal connoisseur", I often pay 200 euros or more for a session. But, the day another 100 euros becomes attached to that as a part of base pricing, then yes I am out.[/QUOTE]"Anal connoisseurs" have nothing to worry about when visiting the Germany FKK scene. The girls will be happy to go with you as you will be regarded as a good payer. Thus; you will also experience less fuss than the "cheap Charlie" max 50 E guy. Even in upselling places like Palace.

Of course you know this, but I nevertheless mention it for the firsttimers to the Germany FKK Club scene: "Anal" is not a standard service that every girl will provide. But it has a fixed extra price of 100 E (50 E in the NRW) per session. Just ask any girl for this service. If she will not partake herself, then she will immediately find two of her friends for you.

Anyways, my personal feeling is that "anal" as a service is much more prevalent now than it was 10- 15 years ago. Again, "anal connoisseurs" have nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2364119]Can I also add that I have not experienced any unusual pricing in any recent trip to this club. Certainly nothing like that indicated in a recent post.[/QUOTE]6 visits and 15+ sessions at Oase and 1 visit and 2 sessions at Sharks in the last four weeks. And zero upselling!

Too many fake handles around here. ISG is infested by pimps, girls, and the mentally ill. Genuine firsttimers be aware.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2363915]It is perhaps quite apt that this happens to be my 1000th post - and many of them in FKK forums... I hope the pricing models dont change so that I am still posting in FKK forums on my 2000th post.[/QUOTE]Well done [B]PayForIt[/B]! Many thanks for all the great posts and specially for all the great club reports!

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364137]6 visits and 15+ sessions at Oase and 1 visit and 2 sessions at Sharks in the last four weeks. And zero upselling![/QUOTE]I could only get €100 sessions at Sharks last April.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2361103]Latest information of the management: The completion of the project will take longer than until 22.08.[/QUOTE]Any more news with regard to these renovations? Have they completed yet? I will be in Frankfurt next week and might drop into Sharks if the place has returned to some normality.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2364098]Had many times anal, and I don't believe the girls prepare for it, how many times I had a lot of shit on the condom even the last time I had anal at Oase in the room under the relax area, no window, poor ventilation and the girl who name starts with A had even pooped a lot so a lot of. On the sofa left to the door, on the floor and the smell was just terrible after that I decided to never have anal in any FKK. Better to do it with escort at least for me.[/QUOTE]All of my visits to FKKs, and I have had only one unpleasant anal experience, and it was not nearly as bad as you describe. Was a Colombian girl who used to work at Oase. That leaves me believing that given how many FKK girls I have butt fucked over the years, I've got to think that the overwhelming majority of the girls who provide anal service have to be preparing themselves. I mean I just can't believe my good fortunes have all been due to pure luck. If I, a prolific cornholer of tutes, had been experiencing anything like what you write, then I would not like anal at all, and never would have become "The Cane" LOL!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2363899]The way some of the posters here are supporting, some even promoting, increase of pricing for well established standard German FKK services, feels like they are not even customers, rather WGs with fake handles or the managers (pimps) of the WGs.

On the other hand, I'm going to try a different approach in my next visit. We all know that even the hottest and most popular WGs are also complaining many times (though not always) that business is down and they are not making as much as they used to months or years back. Next time any WG who I like complains that she didn't make enough that day, I will ask her to reduce price to get my business, typical market/spot pricing model, with maybe some volume discount for multiple hours if I want to continue. That will be win-win for both the seller and the buyer. Simple![/QUOTE]For cheap sex, you know Dietzenbach close to Sharks. When Switzerland is on average not anymore higher level for looks even much more expensive, when my Russian escorts in Paris are not always prettier and higher level, if I find a FKK beauty who wants to behave like a GF in bed for me, then I will be very happy to spend 100 on her to enjoy her for 1 hour, what is my time standard in Germany and a good rate for a tramp like me who sleep in his car he loves so much, under bridge at Wellcum. I hate grocery for sex, kill my desire, high level girls don't speak about money. But most difficult is to find beauties with charm, then I will do the job to deserve from her.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2364033]This is as clear example of "Fake News" as I've seen in many moons. The pricing has NOT changed. But some of the posting here has.

Enough said.[/QUOTE]Sorry Ortos but I disagree with this. Of course I can find in every Frankfurt big5 club a new girl for me that gives me an old school 30 minutes session for 50 euro. But sorry these girls usually don't interest me. Usually I'm glad I find one new interesting girl, and than I don't bargain with this girl about 50 euro. I want the best sex from this girl and no price discussion or reduced service level.

And be honest to yourself. You know Oase for a very, very long time. You know old top girls like Steffi, Judith, Linda F and more. Do girls on this level still work in the Frankfurt big5 clubs? My answer is 100% No. And why? Because they can't earn enough according her real value. Therefore girls at this level usually don't work anymore in German FKK clubs because earnings are too low.

No increase for the standard sex rate in Germany for more than 20 years. That's ridiculous, for instance pay sex prices in Thailand now at least for times as high as 20 years ago.

But at Germany pay6 sex prices should stay at the same level for ever despite the fact that the working cost for the girls get higher and higher every year.

Go on guys with your 50 euro 30 minutes session according old school. With this policy very soon no top class girl will work anymore in Germany, especially with this registeration law. Meanwhile most top class girls prefer working in other countries with better earnings possibilities.

I have stopped with this 50 euro policy already some years ago. This week I had a top class session at a Frankfurt big 5 club, I was 60 minutes with her in room, according price system around 15 years ago that would cost me 150 Euro, the girl and I agreed on 200 Euro, that was fine for both of us. I received top service, the girl received the agreed money. She knows I will repeat with her and I know I will get also next time top class service for 50 euro more than old price system. For me a fair deal for both in 2019.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364246]Go on guys with your 50 euro 30 minutes session according old school. With this policy very soon no top class girl will work anymore in Germany, especially with this registeration law. Meanwhile most top class girls prefer working in other countries with better earnings possibilities.

I have stopped with this 50 euro policy already some years ago. This week I had a top class session at a Frankfurt big 5 club, I was 60 minutes with her in room, according price system around 15 years ago that would cost me 150 Euro, the girl and I agreed on 200 Euro, that was fine for both of us. I received top service, the girl received the agreed money. She knows I will repeat with her and I know I will get also next time top class service for 50 euro more than old price system. For me a fair deal for both in 2019.[/QUOTE]I do agree prices should go up a little bit. Say +10 or 20 e. But you are advocating for this ridiculous 50 e increase in one go. Something which makes absolutely zero sense in any sane world (or mind).

The registration law is also hardly a big issue. It hasn't stopped girls from working in say Austria. But as you say, the 50 e base price is lower in Germany, and that may be a factor.

Thankfully, the higher prices where I live gets us hot girls who otherwise might have ended up in Germany. But even here, the rate varies between 100-150 e for the 30 min. And the 2nd half hour goes for 50-100 e. So it is never +100%. Also no entry fees since it is all apartments, and probably over the quality girls are from outside of EU. Mainly Russia / Ukraine / Moldova. So the Romanians get competition. But the 40-45 year olds who has always been the majority of the overall market here are now mainly Romanian. While 10-15 years ago, they were mainly Russian. So things change.

But your 200 e for 60 min for the girl, plus at least 50 e entry for the club makes it more expensive than the most expensive girls around here. And I don't see that happening. I suppose you took an extra there, but still.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2364176]All of my visits to FKKs, and I have had only one unpleasant anal experience, and it was not nearly as bad as you describe. Was a Colombian girl who used to work at Oase. That leaves me believing that given how many FKK girls I have butt fucked over the years, I've got to think that the overwhelming majority of the girls who provide anal service have to be preparing themselves. I mean I just can't believe my good fortunes have all been due to pure luck. If I, a prolific cornholer of tutes, had been experiencing anything like what you write, then I would not like anal at all, and never would have become "The Cane" LOL![/QUOTE]May be you are right, but technically it is difficult for them to prepare the things just because they don t know when they will do it, after they are eating, drinking. Sometimes I had 10 times anal with the same girl and never had any problem but having a little bit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] on the condom is quite common. I don t believe that doing a kind of small enema every day for the girls is possible without having some health issues. I am also mongering a lot in China with no pro girls and it is also very common to get it but I think this is more link to their food habits, a lot of vegetables.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364246]Sorry Ortos but I disagree with this. Of course I can find in every Frankfurt big5 club a new girl for me that gives me an old school 30 minutes session for 50 euro. But sorry these girls usually don't interest me. Usually I'm glad I find one new interesting girl, and than I don't bargain with this girl about 50 euro. I want the best sex from this girl and no price discussion or reduced service level.

And be honest to yourself. You know Oase for a very, very long time. You know old top girls like Steffi, Judith, Linda F and more. Do girls on this level still work in the Frankfurt big5 clubs? My answer is 100% No. And why? Because they can't earn enough according her real value. Therefore girls at this level usually don't work anymore in German FKK clubs because earnings are too low.

No increase for the standard sex rate in Germany for more than 20 years. That's ridiculous, for instance pay sex prices in Thailand now at least for times as high as 20 years ago.

But at Germany pay6 sex prices should stay at the same level for ever despite the fact that the working cost for the girls get higher and higher every year.

Go on guys with your 50 euro 30 minutes session according old school. With this policy very soon no top class girl will work anymore in Germany, especially with this registeration law. Meanwhile most top class girls prefer working in other countries with better earnings possibilities.

I have stopped with this 50 euro policy already some years ago. This week I had a top class session at a Frankfurt big 5 club, I was 60 minutes with her in room, according price system around 15 years ago that would cost me 150 Euro, the girl and I agreed on 200 Euro, that was fine for both of us. I received top service, the girl received the agreed money. She knows I will repeat with her and I know I will get also next time top class service for 50 euro more than old price system. For me a fair deal for both in 2019.[/QUOTE]Did the Cost of Living and / or Average Income increase by 33% in last 15 years in Germany?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364246]Sorry Ortos but I disagree with this. Of course I can find in every Frankfurt big5 club a new girl for me that gives me an old school 30 minutes session for 50 euro. But sorry these girls usually don't interest me. Usually I'm glad I find one new interesting girl, and than I don't bargain with this girl about 50 euro. I want the best sex from this girl and no price discussion or reduced service level.

And be honest to yourself. You know Oase for a very, very long time. You know old top girls like Steffi, Judith, Linda F and more. Do girls on this level still work in the Frankfurt big5 clubs? My answer is 100% No. And why? Because they can't earn enough according her real value. Therefore girls at this level usually don't work anymore in German FKK clubs because earnings are too low.

No increase for the standard sex rate in Germany for more than 20 years. That's ridiculous, for instance pay sex prices in Thailand now at least for times as high as 20 years ago.

But at Germany pay6 sex prices should stay at the same level for ever despite the fact that the working cost for the girls get higher and higher every year..[/QUOTE]Of course I m not so old in FKK land and I heard a lot about about the cheap who want everything for only 50 who don't interest girls as they say when they leave Sharks, but, and I m not into CIM or anal extra, and I hate Arabian market talk, I don't agree to repeat with girls who are more expensive than 100/ h. I had top beauties and in bed for me for 100/ h or 150 for 1 h30 , legendary top chic and elegance, super GF in bed Katalina for 200 for 2 hours and 2 rounds. I can be the best tip guy, driving a lot to repeat weekly and no one can compete on this, or just a one shot and no repeat. 100/ h for GFE sex like at home is my good rate in Germany, even 80 at Gold, 140 in Austria, Globe casting don't worth the rate now. Only 1 great discovery at Freubad. Ch on this Summer.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2364184]For cheap sex, you know Dietzenbach close to Sharks. When Switzerland is on average not anymore higher level for looks even much more expensive, when my Russian escorts in Paris are not always prettier and higher level, if I find a FKK beauty who wants to behave like a GF in bed for me, then I will be very happy to spend 100 on her to enjoy her for 1 hour, what is my time standard in Germany and a good rate for a tramp like me who sleep in his car he loves so much, under bridge at Wellcum. I hate grocery for sex, kill my desire, high level girls don't speak about money. But most difficult is to find beauties with charm, then I will do the job to deserve from her.[/QUOTE]Well, for me it's not only about the money I'm spending, it's also about respecting the culture and local practices that our so nice German friends have built over the decades. I hate to be part of an act of breaking the German FKK system and then we all will end up like what we have in USA or even in your home country France. If simply paying more could solve the problems of poor mongering options, then countries like USA, Canada, France, England or even Romania or Bulgaria would be our sex travel destinations; even you could stay in France avoiding thousands of kilometers driving or sleeping in your car under a bridge. Paying more to these WGs actually destroys (or prevents to flourish) the pay-sex markets, both for the sellers and the buyers; just look around the world and you will see so many examples of that.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2364294]Did the Cost of Living and / or Average Income increase by 33% in last 15 years in Germany?[/QUOTE][URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/consumer-price-index-cpi[/URL]

Strange dip there a few years ago, but looks like maybe +12% or so. Which is crazy low, and answers why the euro is so strong even with its zero central bank interest rate.

Regarding the Thai quadrupling over the past 20 years. I honestly don't have info on Thailand prior to 2008 when I was there for my first time and hooked up with two hookers on vacation as they told me, and didn't pay a penny. But the boom seen in China in particular over the past 20 years, with their official no p6 policy at home. Something which has been taken more seriously in the past 6-7 years certainly has something to do with it. Japan is also crazy expensive in regards to this hobby for some reason, and the spill over effect from there now that flight cost dramatically fell, was a certainty. I suppose this is also part of the reason we find Asian hunting among the WG's to be more and more common.

But one thing to keep in mind. Chinese rate girls by nationality. In saunas in China / Macau, they put a pricetag on girls depending on nationality. And the more girls a certain nationality has, the lower the price. At least that is one way of analyzing it.

Now I haven't been in Asia for 4 years now, but I think soon prices there will normalize too now that the Chinese housing market collapses. And all the other domino pieces across Asia goes down with it. The spill over effects will heavily hit the Thai bath, which is mainly a tourism driven currency.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2364296]Well, for me it's not only about the money I'm spending, it's also about respecting the culture and local practices that our so nice German friends have built over the decades. I hate to be part of an act of breaking the German FKK system and then we all will end up like what we have in USA or even your home country France.[/QUOTE]But you can t ask everything to girls, they are free to refuse cheap even they need to make money for different reasons behind them. If you want to kiss them like your GF, being natural sucked for 10 mn and pound them for 15 mn like only can small size, when I have to be careful not to kill their vagina, 50 € even for a Romanian or Bulgarian born in misery is not much, when they have to pay 105 or 125 per day to work + taxi for some + cigarettes for most, and they don't want to spend 12 hours working to finish with 50 € in their bag. When I succeed to find a attractive girl, I prefer to repeat with her and I don't want to have to wait for her, this can be weekly for months, but can only work if this is fair, win win for both, if I was only a cheap 50 who want everything, I don't think the prettiest would play my game. I m not German, I think I m quite different with girls as they say, but I know have to be a fair game, even all is not only about money. For me, the good point is when girls ask when I will come again, or come when see me.

How does the motor show affect Frankfurt FKK's?

From other users' comments, it seems that it definitely gets more crowded, but does that also mean more girls?

Would it be better to postpone your visit to Frankfurt area FKK's so it doesn't coincide with the show?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364246]Sorry Ortos but I disagree with this. Of course I can find in every Frankfurt big5 club a new girl for me that gives me an old school 30 minutes session for 50 euro. But sorry these girls usually don't interest me. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your interesting comments and analysis, all of which is focused on 50/30 sessions. However, when I posted that "pricing has NOT changed... " I was specifically talking about 100/60 sessions. Sorry for not being clear about this. So the very interesting comments you make about 50/30 sessions, unfortunately, do not apply to my post or the point I was making, because I was talking about apples, and you were talking about oranges. Once again: sorry for not stating that I was specifically referring to 1 hour sessions for 100 euros.

About 50/30 sessions and any price / service changes now: I have no idea, because I don't usually seek this kind of "fast food" session. In fact, I think the only times I've paid 50 E for 30 mins in the past few years is when I go to the room with a new girl who turns out to be a "dud" or disaster in terms of attitude in room or service in room, so I end / abort the session at / before the 30 mins.

But I'd say over 90% of my sessions in past years have been 100/60 mins, and this, I have found, has NOT changed (for me, at least) even during my most recent visits which date back to July of this year. Every girl I've been to the room with over the months of May / June / July of this year (probably 20+ different girls in Sharks and Oase), whether a new girl or a girl I've seen multiple times over a longer period, has been very willing --dare I say very pleased!-- to have a full hour session with me for 100 euros. Yes, occassionally (esp more recently) one encounters girls who quote silly, off-the-wall pricing, such as "100/30" or "150/60," but these I've found to be anomalies, so I just laugh off these crazy offers and move on. So from my experience, even most recently at Sharks and Oase, the very vast majority of girls I run into and get interested in accept or even suggest by themselves the "normal pricing" of 1 hour=100 euros.

So I'd love to read your comments and analysis about whether there has been significant and across-the-board changes in the pricing for 1 hour sessions for 100 e.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2364296] USA or even in your home country France. If simply paying more could solve the problems of poor mongering options, then countries like USA, Canada, France, England or even Romania or Bulgaria would be our sex travel destinations; even you could stay in France avoiding thousands of kilometers driving or sleeping in your car under a bridge. Paying more to these WGs actually destroys (or prevents to flourish) the pay-sex markets, both for the sellers and the buyers; just look around the world and you will see so many examples of that.[/QUOTE]I could stay at home going to rdv4 U or strollxxx Russian escorts, but even really difficult for me to find pretty girls in FKK and so disappointed by Globe casting now, but I find very few who are as pretty with even sometimes higher level in bed after few rooms together, and when escorts are on tour for 2 weeks and 200/250/ h, I prefer to marry a girl weekly for months, I did with many girls in many clubs, I m specialist for this and look forward to find next dreamed beauty to marry for love in bed. As I say to my friend: I would even prefer to go with only one, would be more real for my mind. Why I drive to FKK land, even had Russian nights in Paris for 200/250/300 with restaurant and perfume or Disney gift for child with little mums.

Let's talk economics?

Or lets all rather study this article:

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_surplus[/URL]

The question we all here are trying to discuss is related to the equilibrium. But this is a market demand issue, not something we can adjust here on the forum. And I do wonder how the clubs macro economic visitor numbers have gone year on year over the past 10 years. If we are to discuss the equilibrium, we would need data like this. And of course the CPI or median and average income (most likely the median is the best indicator). Also charts on visitors coming locally from Germany, vs elsewhere in the world. Etc etc. Until we have these numbers, it is just babbling we are doing in here.

Of course one can also discuss willingness to pay / bundling. And that may have more of an impact here on the forum. But that is more related to upselling, and not the basic price. However, bundling strategies (upselling) can have serious negative consequences / costs related to them as well. Historically one can look at how some of the first fax machines had a chip in them. A chip to slow them down. This chip had an extra cost related to them from the producers point of view, and fax machines with this chip was more expensive to make than fax machines not having this chip. The more expensive to make fax machines who did have the chip and were artificially slowed down, cost substantially less at the store than the cheaper to produce fax machines without the chip. The same thing can be the case when girls hold back services they usually had no quarrels doing a few years ago. And the hidden extra cost can be related to less repeat rooms long term.

So as we can see, economic theory is not so straight forward. And sometimes someone advocating for an higher income may reduce the total markets equilibrium and maximum willingness to pay. Volume, cost, customer satisfaction, environmental changes (travel / hotel / other markets) etc all play big roles.

Taking this further, media studies would suggest that highlighting cheap prices, or ways to get cheap prices (loopholes, bargaining techniques etc) adds a fuzz among potential buyers, and buyers markets. Adding positive publicity, and increasing the volume. However, this only holds true as a long term strategy when it has basis in reality. Otherwise it would be fake news and marketing breaking the laws. The idea that all publicity is good publicity stems from this, simply by putting the issues on the daily agenda. Now a lot can be said about having this on the daily agenda every day every week however. LOL!

I really can't understand the constant debate about prices. Why can't the guys who pay EUR 100/150 for half hour and EUR 200/300 for one hour, etc. just be left alone to make their payments as well as others like myself who have numerous EUR 50 half hour sessions as well as some EUR 100 per hour. Earlier this year I had dozens of enjoyable EUR 50 half hour sessions with hot Eastern European girls most including BBBJ and expect to repeat same during my next visits to FKK land.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2364517]I really can't understand the constant debate about prices. Why can't the guys who pay EUR 100/150 for half hour and EUR 200/300 for one hour, etc. just be left alone to make their payments as well as others like myself who have numerous EUR 50 half hour sessions as well as some EUR 100 per hour.[/QUOTE]Maybe some people want to know going rates when visiting a place for the first time? Maybe a good sex forum should be about educating each other about where to get best sex for their money? Maybe FKK visitors mostly are on budget and are highly interested to know about pricing? Maybe there are pimps around who spread fake news to drive prices up, and someone on the ground feel the need to put things straight?

I could probably find another dozen reasons.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2364517]I really can't understand the constant debate about prices.[/QUOTE]Why not? Reporting about paysex lifestyle for many is mainly talking about costs and conditions of how sex and which facet of sex becomes available for them (eg in german brothels and clubs).

[QUOTE=Brainium;2364322]How does the motor show affect Frankfurt FKK's?

From other users' comments, it seems that it definitely gets more crowded, but does that also mean more girls?

Would it be better to postpone your visit to Frankfurt area FKK's so it doesn't coincide with the show?[/QUOTE]Should be full casting for IAA business. Oase and Palace get more business than Sharks.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364534]Maybe some people want to know going rates when visiting a place for the first time? Maybe a good sex forum should be about educating each other about where to get best sex for their money? Maybe FKK visitors mostly are on budget and are highly interested to know about pricing? Maybe there are pimps around who spread fake news to drive prices up, and someone on the ground feel the need to put things straight?

I could probably find another dozen reasons.[/QUOTE]Has been:

EUR50 for half hour CFS and BBBJ, EUR 100 for 1 hour etc.

EUR50 extra for CIM.

EUR100 extra for anal.

Has been the above for ages and will continue so until further notice.
Prices may actually go down seeing as the world's economy is in decline. Keep tuned in for official price list.

WOW. That's honestly all I have to say for my first visit to any FKK in my life. Went on Wednesday around 630 Pm.

First impression when walking to the entrance I was super nervous with my two buddies were also excited haha.

Walked up towards the entrance we saw a girl walk in front of us with silver ish purple hair once we saw her we were like alright this will be good haha.

We got in paid the fee for Wednesday price 50 euros. Didn't get scammed there that was a good sign haha no questions like did taxi drop you off or anything. Got showed where the change room was and was told that the bar is still under construction last time I looked I thought they'd be done by the time I got there but the bar is still under construction sadly just a sore thumb since it's just looks weird right in the middle. So as me and two of my Asian buddies walked in we instantly got hollers and woooooos from a bunch of girls even tho it was super busy! I've warned my friends that we are going to be targets cause we're Asian and they instantly felt the pressure we had girls run up to us grab us kiss us grab my dick and all it was so hard to dodge them. It's our first time so we were overwhelmed. Told the boys stick to the rule we got to not go Into a room until at least we walked around the whole place and saw as much of the line up we can! So there were a lot more guys than girls at this point at 7 pm. It was so surreal cause I've been trying to do research for the last month and to finally get to see it in person after seeing all the pictures was nuts haha! After exploring the whole place we went outside since inside was hotter than outside at that point and that's when the hunting became real.

While I was walking to the sun bed to lay down a blonde cutie walked up to me and just grabbed me and put my face in her tits. I was thrown off but luckily she took my no and walked away but she then kept coming back to me through out the night but it just wasn't the type of girl that interested me. She was cute and nice body just not what I was really looking for.

So we got passed our first half hour at sharks and saw some girls and told the guys let's go get some!

1st girl 8/10.

Forgot her name. Said she's 24. Italian beautiful eyes not the nicest tits. But beautiful ass and pussy she just showed me everything before we went into the room. So I asked for basic service for my first kill as I didn't know if I was going to bust quick so I didn't try anything special. Just a basic condom suck and fuck for 50 euros. Was good service and she was nice finished less than half hour left room paid her and the end of all the nervousness in my body. Also she was very friendly and not pushy and upsell she just asked if I wanted extra services or not and I just declined cause just wanted to bust my first nut haha. Only reason she's not a 10 out of 10 is cause she wasn't really my type I was looking for but went with her cause I honestly said no to like 5 girls already and I was like ready to just bust my first nut. Overall service and no real upselling so she is a great girl!

Got out couldn't find my buddies so I just walked around some more and then got some drinks and waited for them. They had outdoor BBQ on this night and the food was surprisingly good! Steak. Sausages. Chicken. Pork. Burgers and side dishes! Yum probably ate like every time I finished with a girl haha!

2nd girl 10/10.

Alina.

Okay so this girl I went with because of the Japanese website by a guy named Mad Dog. She's a platinum blonde with nice optics and a tight pussy even for an Asian guy she must have trained that muscle well to keep it tight still. He wrote in his blog that this girl is a must try! So I saw the tattoo and her body figure (he has a blurred picture to help us recognize her by her tattoo. I saw her while I was eating. Glanced at her saw her tattoo and got excited haha continued with eating and then as she got up to go get a drink she came to me and stared at me and said " you want to go with me" and then asked her what was her rate? She said 50 for basic and said 100 for GFE except CIM. And then when we went into the room. Got to try the outdoor shacks which was cooler than inside since it was soo hot inside. I told her about the website I found her on and she laughed and she said she knows she's very well liked by Japanese guys so I was like alright! This is going to be great. 100 euro for half hour. BBBJ and fuck and GFE but I don't do that DFK stuff so I passed but was included but just said it's okay I don't need to kiss haha. She was very nice service was great and it was great! Would definitely repeat.

3rd girl 11/10.

I don't remember her name cause I was honestly just breathless when I saw her. I've never done a Spanish girl and always wanted to. It was definitely my fantasy coming true here haha.

Name I don't know. Age said she's 24. Spanish. Big tits. Beautiful ass. Slim waist. Everything I've ever wanted haha! Didn't see her till later in the night guess she was busy haha as she should be. Asked if she does 50 euro for suck and fuck and she said no nicely and told me 100 for condom suck and fuck I just couldn't say no so I just went with it. It was amazing. She was very nice not rushing and stared at me the whole time so not mechanical at all which was surprising to me for sucha hot girl. Blow job to her riding me to doggy to reverse cow girl to finish in missionary. Amazing service honestly I'll never forget haha she was my fantasy and it was fulfilled! So happy she wasn't machanicle and boring.

One random thing happened not sure if she was really upset with me or not as she was one of the first few girls I said no to because we just got in the club. She saw me go with the first Italian girl and then gave me a dirty look and I just smiled. So I'd continuously got this look from her all night every time I passed her but I believe it was in a playful way. Didn't think anything of it so near the end of the night she came up to me again and talked to me and then I felt bad so I was like you know what let's go to the room. Suck and fuck for 50? She said look babe I'm worth more than that don't you agree? I told her yes she's right she is a beautiful girl for sure. But at this point in the night my nuts were empty after 3 times haha. So after she told me all that I told her I'm not here to offend her and if she felt like I offended her I'm sorry and then she was very nice kissed me on the cheek told me I'm a good guy and then we went our separate ways. I was jsut surprised she didn't want to go up for a easy 50 haha.

Left around 12 o'clock with sharks taxi to my hotel charged me extra 2 bucks just because not dropping to station but to my hotel near by. So pretty much to sum it all up we were there from 630 pm to midnight busted 3 nuts spent 300 euros including entrance fee and was well worth every penny!

Overall as a first timer here are a couple of things I think all first timers should do.

1. Get in and don't go to a room within first half hour to hour. See the whole area then grab a drink have a seat and look until you find one you like. Talk to them nicely and you won't have a problem even if you say no to them just be nice it will go a long way! Be a gentleman don't be a douche bag.

2. I'm a guy who smiles a lot so every girl thought I wanted to go to the room with them just because I smiled in their direction. Don't be like me otherwise your honestly going to get hounded the whole night and it got pretty annoying as the night went on because the girls earlier would continue to come find me and talk to me and try to bring me to a room. Had one girl come to me like 15 times during the time I was there LOL! So my buddy did me a favour and took her to the room. She had an awesome body but face not so much.

Didn't really talked to any other people there but did see a couple of groups of Asians but different types. Japanese. Mandarin and Chinese soo it was pretty funny to see other fellow Asians enjoying FKKs but we're from north America so we act very differently than Asia Asians.

FKK sharks rating 9/10 only down part was construction otherwise it would've been a 10 out of 10. Thanks for everyone who gave me tips and advice before it really did help a lot and got me prepared!

The whole 50 for half hour thing honestly is debatable as some girls do offer it but don't expect the very pretty ones to offer it. That's just my opinion from asking many girls their prices. BBBJ wasn't included most of the time except for Alina but that was for 100 euros. And pretty much 150 gets you the BBBJ and fuck and DFK and CIM which was pretty much the standard when I asked.

I would definitely come back in the future just don't know when. Then the next day on Thursday we made our way to Oase. I will write up about it when I have time on the Oase thread. It was also amazing.

Having checked out World on Sunday and Oase on Wednesday, it was time to get updated on Sharks next and so there I headed.

It was a very bad choice. Construction of the bar seems to have been completed, but the area is still sealed up.

The new waterfall is functioning though.

But the disaster was the heat. All the rooms including the igloo rooms were intolerably hot. The insides of the huts in the garden were worse; they were like saunas. The only usable beds in the garden were those where the curtains could be pulled aside. But passers-by kept staring in when I was having sex with the girls.

Instead of wasting money on indoor waterfalls and elaborate bar counter lighting, they should have spent the money installing aircons.

Line-up was weak. Comparable to World on Sunday, but inferior to Oase on Wednesday. Most of my favorites were on holiday, so I had to try new girls.

A girl who claimed she was new attracted me as she has the same body shape and size and same square jawline as ex Erica/Carla/Cindy of World/Oase/Sharks. Her name was Patricia, a very small slim teeny looking girl with a cute face. Another poor choice. No kisses allowed, could not speak English, and she provided passive service.

Luckily my next choice was the opposite. Also claiming to be new, her name was Sophie. She had a nice smile, but body was a little fleshy. However, service in the room was outstanding. She worked very hard to please and was a bundle of energy. Got really wet continuous kisses from her.

Finally, I managed to get hold of Becky. Very slim and tall girl with cropped black hair. Good English, but was also passive in the room. But maybe this was because it was already late and I did notice that she had been servicing a endless stream of customers (many Asian ones), taking about 15-20 minutes each. Will give her another chance one day if I can catch her earlier.

[QUOTE=WetWetWet18;2364647]

Okay so this girl I went with because of the Japanese website by a guy named Mad Dog. S[/QUOTE]Nice report. Nice first visit! Having wingmen can go a long way to making the experience less stressful. By the way, can you direct me to this blog? Not sure what to use to search, but clearly the words I'm using aren't working!

As to smiling, you hit the nail on the head. When you smile they think, he wants me to come over. Americans smile a lot. It is an open invitation! On the other hand, they're going to come over anyway, so it might be impossible to avoid. Will look forward to your other reports. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=WetWetWet18;2364647]WOW. That's honestly all I have to say for my first visit to any FKK in my life. Went on Wednesday around 630 Pm.

So as me and two of my Asian buddies walked in we instantly got hollers and woooooos from a bunch of girls even tho it was super busy! I've warned my friends that we are going to be targets cause we're Asian and they instantly

1. Get in and don't go to a room within first half hour to hour. See the whole area then grab a drink have a seat and look until you find one you like. Talk to them nicely and you won't have a problem even if you say no to them just be nice it will go a long way! Be a gentleman don't be a douche bag.

2. I'm a guy who smiles a lot so every girl thought I wanted to go to the room with them just because I smiled in their direction. Don't be like me otherwise your honestly going to get hounded the whole night and it got pretty annoying as the night went on because the girls earlier would continue to come find me and talk to me and try to bring me to a room. Had one girl come to me like 15 times during the time I was there LOL! So my buddy did me a favour and took her to the room..[/QUOTE]Asian bruddah,

I am glad you followed all the advice from all the ISG members. You managed your emotions and money well. Three times in one day is just enough for most normal guys. Now, you are not a newbie.

I never got Woo's and Hollers. You guys must be young Asian studs and Maybe because I am a Ojisan. I am glad you got to me the famous ex-World, Alina. I have never met her but maybe next year. I have met Dina and Betty.

When you are young and have the opportunity to come to FKK, you will make time to come back. I go to Germany once a year and stay 3 weeks. The next time, I will go is May, 2020. Maybe, I will meet you.

Understand, FKK is a Man's Fantasy playground fueled by money. Later in Life, When you find the Right woman and you have a Real relationship, you start a family and won't desire FKK. However, You will have unbelievable memories. Thanks for a very good report!

Aloha.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2364675]Nice report. Nice first visit! Having wingmen can go a long way to making the experience less stressful. By the way, can you direct me to this blog? Not sure what to use to search, but clearly the words I'm using aren't working!

Thanks for posting.[/QUOTE]Tintin1,

Mad dog has a Youtube video, "How to get to Sharks". Follow the links in the description. Use Google Chrome and it will translate Japanese to English. It is not perfect, just good enough.

Aloha.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2364675]...By the way, can you direct me to this blog? Not sure what to use to search, but clearly the words I'm using aren't working!...[/QUOTE]For your reference.

[URL]https://fkklove.com/archives/1163[/URL]

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2364745]For your reference.

[URL]https://fkklove.com/archives/1163[/URL][/QUOTE]YamaYama,

Arigato, for the link.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2364653]Having checked out World on Sunday and Oase on Wednesday, it was time to get updated on Sharks next and so there I headed.

It was a very bad choice. Construction of the bar seems to have been completed, but the area is still sealed up.

The new waterfall is functioning though.

But the disaster was the heat. All the rooms including the igloo rooms were intolerably hot. The insides of the huts in the garden were worse; they were like saunas. The only usable beds in the garden were those where the curtains could be pulled aside. But passers-by kept staring in when I was having sex with the girls.

Instead of wasting money on indoor waterfalls and elaborate bar counter lighting, they should have spent the money installing aircons.

Line-up was weak. Comparable to World on Sunday, but inferior to Oase on Wednesday. Most of my favorites were on holiday, so I had to try new girls..[/QUOTE]A / C installation is very costly in Europe, compare to what I paid in China also due to noise may be they need some authorization. Waterfall and LED are very cheap in comparison. Summer time are always hot in Germany and more and more, may be you can do like me, less FKK visits, less rooms much more money in your pocket. You can also travel to Constanza mamaia beach so many girls there and with some efforts also easy to have fun. There is a life outside the german P6 scene.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2364347]But I'd say over 90% of my sessions in past years have been 100/60 mins, and this, I have found, has NOT changed (for me, at least) even during my most recent visits which date back to July of this year. Every girl I've been to the room with over the months of May / June / July of this year (probably 20+ different girls in Sharks and Oase), whether a new girl or a girl I've seen multiple times over a longer period, has been very willing --dare I say very pleased!-- to have a full hour session with me for 100 euros. Yes, occassionally (esp more recently) one encounters girls who quote silly, off-the-wall pricing, such as "100/30" or "150/60," but these I've found to be anomalies, so I just laugh off these crazy offers and move on. So from my experience, even most recently at Sharks and Oase, the very vast majority of girls I run into and get interested in accept or even suggest by themselves the "normal pricing" of 1 hour=100 euros.[/QUOTE]At least there is one guy we can trust when describing the "state of the clubs". This is EXACTLY my experience when visiting Sharks and Oase, though admittedly I am more of Oase visitor than a Sharks visitor. If I may add one thing: I experience more often zero upselling about 1 HR commitments than crazy girls asking for 100/30 or 150 E /60, I. E. It's easier to get a solid 50 E sesson than meeting a crazy girls asking for 100 E /30.

And, PLEASE guys, don't give me that crap that you need to pay extra to get the hottest girls. I only go with the ones I find hottest.

[QUOTE=WetWetWet18;2364647]The whole 50 for half hour thing honestly is debatable as some girls do offer it but don't expect the very pretty ones to offer it. That's just my opinion from asking many girls their prices. BBBJ wasn't included most of the time except for Alina but that was for 100 euros. And pretty much 150 gets you the BBBJ and fuck and DFK and CIM which was pretty much the standard when I asked.[/QUOTE]This is true only for first-timers. Even for the pretty ones (including Alina/Angie), I can always get BBBJ and GFE/DFK for 100 euros in total for 1 hour, not for just 30 minutes. So, once you come back again, please start bargaining. Take your experience as the usual entry fee for newcomers and not as the norm.

By the way, the pretty Vanessa who specialises on extracting 100 to 150 euros for 30 minutes from Asian newcomers has moved to Oase, doing the same thing. Saw her systematically hunting down every new Asian in sight earlier this week.

I also overheard Estephania (of Oase) asking an Asian for 100 euros for 30 minutes. So, this is certainly the market price for Asians or those of Asian origin who are new in Sharks or Oase.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364758]
And, PLEASE guys, don't give me that crap that you need to pay extra to get the hottest girls. I only go with the ones I find hottest.[/QUOTE]Just let everyone decide by themselve what is crap or which girl is hot. Same to the girls its up to her to make her price and up to us to accept this or not, very simple.

Talking about crap, for me for instance is crap and waste of value time knowing the fake nick name of most of the club girls, especially if fucking only the hottest. LOL.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364758]At least there is one guy we can trust when describing the "state of the clubs". This is EXACTLY my experience when visiting Sharks and Oase, though admittedly I am more of Oase visitor than a Sharks visitor. If I may add one thing: I experience more often zero upselling about 1 HR commitments than crazy girls asking for 100/30 or 150 E /60, I. E. It's easier to get a solid 50 E sesson than meeting a crazy girls asking for 100 E /30.

And, PLEASE guys, don't give me that crap that you need to pay extra to get the hottest girls. I only go with the ones I find hottest.[/QUOTE]Just ask Melissa for 50/30 or 100/60 ? Some others among the prettiest, for my eyes, also don t seem to want to go for only 30 mn, and to be fair, I can understand they don t run for everything for only 50 . Of course GND need to find business to pay more expensive than 100 entry. 100 for 1 hour seem to me a win win deal for both part, relaxing, not rushing, enjoying, taking care of her like a woman, not just pounding a piece of meat because needing so much to let life frustration going out, I don t need this because I decided to make my life as I want, this is called freedom. A real free bird.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364813]Talking about crap, for me for instance is crap and waste of value time knowing the fake nick name of most of the club girls, especially if fucking only the hottest. LOL.[/QUOTE]People use nicknames in every situation. It does not make a nickname fake. A nickname is a name chosen by the person in question, and not by his or her parents. It can be a reference point if the person keeps using it over a certain period of time. Suck as me using Pistons here on the forum, or you using Craiova. Fake is not good word to use to describe these names.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2364798]By the way, the pretty Vanessa who specialises on extracting 100 to 150 euros for 30 minutes from Asian newcomers has moved to Oase, doing the same thing. Saw her systematically hunting down every new Asian in sight earlier this week.

I also overheard Estephania (of Oase) asking an Asian for 100 euros for 30 minutes. So, this is certainly the market price for Asians or those of Asian origin who are new in Sharks or Oase.[/QUOTE]Oh, come on. Vanessa demands 100 from everyone, Asian or not. I've tried her, just for fun, not worth it. Would not repeat even for 50. Not exactly bad, even a bit cute, but somewhat boring. She even tried to give me CBJ in this 100 session, but when I laughed about this, she proceeded with BBBJ.

Again, she just asks 100 from everyone, it's not about guys being Asian. And again, she's not worth it.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2364745]For your reference.

[URL]https://fkklove.com/archives/1163[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you really interviewing the girls with what their favourite food and colors are? (I am sure they all love Japanese food, and have pink / yellow as favourite colors).

[QUOTE=Gino02;2364819]No wonder Asian suckers pay double for the same services from the same FKK girls compared to the smart customers. LOL 😆.[/QUOTE]I won't be too harsh on the Asian customers. They are usually first timers and FKK girls love first timers because it is easy to extract extra cash from them. After you visit the clubs more often you become wiser and can get most girls for the official rate; also when the girls see you in the club often they are less inclined to scam you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2364909]I won't be too harsh on the Asian customers. They are usually first timers and FKK girls love first timers because it is easy to extract extra cash from them. After you visit the clubs more often you become wiser and can get most girls for the official rate; also when the girls see you in the club often they are less inclined to scam you.[/QUOTE]Being first timer is supposed to be an excuse to be a sucker? I took two Oase girls to the front desk on my very first FKK visit in my very first FKK WGs encounter as they were trying to scam me for 50 e each for giving me introductory BBBJ on the couch that I didn't ask or agree to, and the front desk lady rightfully sided with me. If a low IQ fool like me can avoid to be a sucker in the first time, anyone else can too. But yes, we shouldn't be too harsh, so I promise not to call anyone sucker who's actually not a sucker for the scams by these WGs. Promise! Pinky promise!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2364923]Being first timer is supposed to be an excuse to be a sucker? I took two Oase girls to the front desk on my very first FKK visit in my very first FKK WGs encounter as they were trying to scam me for 50 e each for giving me introductory BBBJ on the couch that I didn't ask or agree to, and the front desk lady rightfully sided with me. If a low IQ fool like me can avoid to be a sucker in the first time, anyone else can too. But yes, we shouldn't be too harsh, so I promise not to call anyone sucker who's actually not a sucker for the scams by these WGs. Promise! Pinky promise! 😝.[/QUOTE]As your first visit which you refer to was in 2004 I am not sure it is a basis for comparison for newbies in 2019. I do agree that resisting upward pressure on prices is a good recommendation

As for asians being suckers. I would not tar one ethnic group in that way, as this could seem racist. I looked at the Japanese forum and see that there is a lively awareness of the correct prices, even if many guys choose to pay more.

[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2364745]For your reference.

[URL]https://fkklove.com/archives/1163[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks so much. Have been enjoying reading this with my lunch!!

[QUOTE=Craiova;2364813]Just let everyone decide by themselve what is crap or which girl is hot. Same to the girls its up to her to make her price and up to us to accept this or not, very simple.

Talking about crap, for me for instance is crap and waste of value time knowing the fake nick name of most of the club girls, especially if fucking only the hottest. LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh, thanks. I can easily live with that insult. No problem.

It would be more interesting for the forum if you would be so kind to respond to Ortos request to you. I repeat it here for your convenience:

"So I'd love to read your comments and analysis about whether there has been significant and across-the-board changes in the pricing for 1 hour sessions for 100 e. ".

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364989]Oh, thanks. I can easily live with that insult. No problem.
[/QUOTE]Your welcome.

ÄHM but sorry I can't see any insult against you from me. I mentioned only guys in general prefering collecting fake nick names instead of using the value time for fucking some of them.

And for longer time back I can't remember having seen here a longer line up list from you, so where should be the insult.

And BTW I don't think you are the same Shark16 who quite often reports long line up list of Oase recently at the german "Lustvolles Sharks Hype" forum. I think with the same nick and maybe same preferences about FKK Club is just coinsidence. Otherwise it wouldn't be nice don't show this line up list here. And this would ofc nobody do.

So you see no reason for feeling insulted by me.

I think we should talk about FKK Sharks. There are enough nutters about and we need to hold onto good Germany FKK ISG Members.

Any word on the bar renovations? I'm in Frankfurt soon and might drop in?

Oh dear, stop the crap. Pfff .... Too funny.

Again, I think you would gain a bit more respect if you would respond to Ortos question:

"So I'd love to read your comments and analysis about whether there has been significant and across-the-board changes in the pricing for 1 hour sessions for 100 e. ".

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364758]At least there is one guy we can trust when describing the "state of the clubs". This is EXACTLY my experience when visiting Sharks and Oase, though admittedly I am more of Oase visitor than a Sharks visitor. If I may add one thing: I experience more often zero upselling about 1 HR commitments than crazy girls asking for 100/30 or 150 E /60, I. E. It's easier to get a solid 50 E sesson than meeting a crazy girls asking for 100 E /30.

[/QUOTE]A big thank you to you, Ortos, and Turgid for giving some information from very experienced members on pricing. It is really helpful for me to know.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2364751]A / C installation is very costly in Europe, compare to what I paid in China also due to noise may be they need some authorization. [/QUOTE]What kind of Bullcrap is this? World put individual A /C units (which do not generate any kind of major noise factor) in all or at least most of the rooms. If World can do it, well a stronger player like Sharks should have done it first. In fact, after the past two years, when temps in June / July / August in Germany have now hit record and / or unacceptable levels of heat (and in a structure like Sharks, ex-factory, it takes a while for the heat to drain out of the building), it's going to get consistently warmer during these months before it gets cooler. So if not today, definitely by tomorrow these clubs will have to face the writing on the wall: A / C will be necessary to maintain decent business during three to four months of the year. That's the reality of where this planet is going, sad to say.

Another note: I work with German tourists on their holidays. I've asked people. Who live in NRW to Hamburg to Hessen even over to Leipzig, whether they have A / C at home. Virtually all of them say: Two-three years ago, we would never think about it, but now, after a few 39-degree days and many others solidly in the mid-30's, now we think about getting A / C in our home. In fact, one guy whose grandmother lives in Berlin, tried during July to buy an A / C unit as a gift to Oma: Well, every place was sold-out and he had to back order.

Seriously, I believe it's quite possible that over the next few years clubs like Sharks and Oase will have to up their game as far as A / C is concerned, if they want to stay competitive during the summer months. Funny, that's just as much part of Climate Change, as accepting that the glaciers are melting.

But who knows: maybe I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2364989]

It would be more interesting for the forum if you would be so kind to respond to Ortos request to you. I repeat it here for your convenience:

"So I'd love to read your comments and analysis about whether there has been significant and across-the-board changes in the pricing for 1 hour sessions for 100 e. ".[/QUOTE]"Took the words right out of my fcking mouth!" A line uttered by James Belushi during the penultimate episode of "Twin Peaks: A Limited Series Event. "

The renovation of the bar is finished. Today (Friday) in the late afternoon and early evening, the bar slowly slowly became functional again.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2365082]The renovation of the bar is finished. Today (Friday) in the late afternoon and early evening, the bar slowly slowly became functional again.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Thanks Nick.

The bar is open and beautiful. Looks great, 3 friendly bargirls kept drinks flowing.

My first time back to FKK in a year, longer since I was at Sharks. I always liked Mainhattan, finding enough choices to satisfy me most nights. But that was Donna and the good old days. Reviews have been so bad lately I decided to move to Sharks.

So glad I did. I had a great night Friday August 30th, first day of the new bar.

Being away so long there.

Was a lot of anticipation and fantasies bouncing around my two heads. Really seemed like all I could think about. Aside from being discreet about the actual visit, luckily no one in my daily life can read my mind.

So as an experienced, though not frequent FKK visitor, I know how to make my way around without getting upsold much.

Promising myself to look all around before going to a room, I broke down after 20 steps in and just couldn't say no to Yella or Sella, dark, redbrown pony tail, gorgeous body, thin not skinny, curvy just right, nice face. Not your GND more like the hot cool chick up the street who never noticed me.

I had a great time, agreed 1 hour for 100 E, Nice energetic cowgirl, great soft natural blowjob, funny talkative, and oh what a sight in the fully mirrored room downstairs. Seeing and feeling such a pretty girl with great bod slurping away at my dick was heaven. I hadn't planned on DATY but her pussy was so beautiful I couldn't resist.

2nd, Natalia, was a mistake, I was staring at her body instead of her face, which I like to be kind, intelligent pretty and funny, I quickly agreed to a room though I made clear it was 30 for 50 and BBBJ. She tried to upsell me in the room, saying it would be 100 with BBBJ. I wouldn't budge, was ready to walk, but she said OK and started in. Really shitty BJ, just didn't feel half as good as Yella just a bit earlier. And she bitched through the whole session about how she shouldn't be doing BBBJ for 50. I finally shut her up by promising to cum in her mouth tomorrow, though in fact I'm off to Oase tomorrow. Was that unethical of me? Left feeling kind of down wondering if I would have anyone else really special.

Stared at Michelle a long time before I walked over to talk. I just really liked looking at her standing naked, so free and beautiful. Tallish, skinny but just right, be cups with nice shape, she is my type of girl. 27 but looks 19-23. According to her, ex Globe, just two weeks at Sharks. Flower tattoo between her breasts which almost put me off, but she is so lovely. Discreet braces on teeth. Some kind of cross between earnest student and young professional. Room was fun, no rush, I told her from the start 1 HR+CIM possibly, so she did her upmost to please, nice DFK, though not mentioned beforehand. Had the mirrored room again, not hot after 10 pm. She knew to use the room to her advantage, positioning herself so I'd have a great view of her BJ and exquisite site of her ass and pussy in the air, such a beauty. Asked if she'd give me a show at CIM time, and she didn't hold back, continuing to suck my cock well after I was finished, licking my dick showing me her lovely mouth overflowing with my cum. 10/10 for being my perfect fantasy cum alive.

After being twice spent, money and cum, I had a nice talk with Becky offering her 20 E for 10 minutes as that was truly all the money I had left. No go. Oh well, always worth a try. I have to call her adorable with her short black hair and tall, thin, tight body. She will live in memory as the one that got away. A recent review called her lackluster, anyone else have another experience?

Great Sharks day. FKK such a wonderful amazing experience. Saturday night to Oase hopefully in just before 4 for discount.

Visited Sharks again yesterday despite the heat. Wondered why I was so masochistic.

It was reasonably cool at the start of the day. The bar area was now open, but the workers were still polishing the floor, and there were no bar stools yet. The bar was thus not operational till late afternoon when the bar stools were assembled. By that time, the new water feature on the left was no longer working!

I spent the afternoon with 2 of my old favorites. I wanted to use the pavilion right at the far side of the pool as that had the best breeze, but as it was already occupied by Alina/Angie and her Stamgast, I knew I had no chance of using it for the rest of the afternoon.

It became very hot in the late afternoon, but luckily the bar area was not hot.

I could not resist having a repeat session with Becky today. But it ended up the same as yesterday. So sexy and attractive when outside, but just could not get any chemistry with her in the room. Service was again satisfactory, and she pleasantly did not try any upselling. She would be a clear recommendation for a stress-free optifuck; just no hope for GFE.

Ended the evening with a new girl called Alma. Nice GND look, sweet face, short slim body with soft squeezy boobs. Opposite to Becky, she delivered passionate service in the room with no upselling, and was a joy to talk to. Definitely repeatable.

I spotted yet another migrant from World. This was the tall skinny blonde Natalie with thick glasses who had been a regular at World for some years. At this rate, most of the World long-timers will be at Sharks soon.

[QUOTE=Zumboit;2365086]The bar is open and beautiful. Looks great, 3 friendly bargirls kept drinks flowing.

My first time back to FKK in a year, longer since I was at Sharks. I always liked Mainhattan, finding enough choices to satisfy me most nights. But that was Donna and the good old days. Reviews have been so bad lately I decided to move to Sharks.

So glad I did. I had a great night Friday August 30th, first day of the new bar.

Being away so long there.

Was a lot of anticipation and fantasies bouncing around my two heads. Really seemed like all I could think about. Aside from being discreet about the actual visit, luckily no one in my daily life can read my mind.

So as an experienced, though not frequent FKK visitor, I know how to make my way around without getting upsold much.

Promising myself to look all around before going to a room, I broke down after 20 steps in and just couldn't say no to Yella or Sella, dark, redbrown pony tail, gorgeous body, thin not skinny, curvy just right, nice face. Not your GND more like the hot cool chick up the street who never noticed me.

I had a great time, agreed 1 hour for 100 E, Nice energetic cowgirl, great soft natural blowjob, funny talkative, and oh what a sight in the fully mirrored room downstairs. Seeing and feeling such a pretty girl with great bod slurping away at my dick was heaven. I hadn't planned on DATY but her pussy was so beautiful I couldn't resist.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Do you know what happened with Donna? Did she quit one year ago or time by time she still works at Mainhattan? Did you see her in the last year?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2364751]A / C installation is very costly in Europe, compare to what I paid in China also due to noise may be they need some authorization. Waterfall and LED are very cheap in comparison. Summer time are always hot in Germany and more and more, may be you can do like me, less FKK visits, less rooms much more money in your pocket. You can also travel to Constanza mamaia beach so many girls there and with some efforts also easy to have fun. There is a life outside the german P6 scene.[/QUOTE]What about fans. To me circulating air is much better than static in high temperature. It was unbearably hot in late June and July when I was there. Very few rooms had fans. The non-installation of ceiling fans in rooms at Sharks seems almost sinister.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2365031]So if not today, definitely by tomorrow these clubs will have to face the writing on the wall: A / C will be necessary to maintain decent business during three to four months of the year.[/QUOTE]Like the majority of people here, I believe AC upgrades at Sharks should get priority over any other amenity upgrades. I go primarily with the objective of spending time in the rooms. But perhaps we are in the minority here, and other Sharks customers not as bothered by the sauna temperatures that persist inside the club. Some Sharks customers like to buy bottles and drink with their friends. Some Sharks customers like to sunbathe poolside. While they also on occasion go to the room, the overall satisfaction of their visit does not depend on spending time in a room with a WG. These types of customers have zero representation on ISG.

TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

If we truly expect change, we should boycott Sharks on "hot" days. For locals, this is obviously easier since they can postpone or adjust the dates of their visits to cooler days. Like other heat waves this summer, the heat wave that ends today only lasted 3-5 days. Frankfurt has high of 34 today, but rest of the week mid 20's. Next Saturday September 7 the forecasted high is 20.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365355]Like the majority of people here, I believe AC upgrades at Sharks should get priority over any other amenity upgrades. I go primarily with the objective of spending time in the rooms. But perhaps we are in the minority here, and other Sharks customers not as bothered by the sauna temperatures that persist inside the club. Some Sharks customers like to buy bottles and drink with their friends. Some Sharks customers like to sunbathe poolside. While they also on occasion go to the room, the overall satisfaction of their visit does not depend on spending time in a room with a WG. These types of customers have zero representation on ISG.

TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

If we truly expect change, we should boycott Sharks on "hot" days. For locals, this is obviously easier since they can postpone or adjust the dates of their visits to cooler days. Like other heat waves this summer, the heat wave that ends today only lasted 3-5 days. Frankfurt has high of 34 today, but rest of the week mid 20's. Next Saturday September 7 the forecasted high is 20.[/QUOTE]Foreign sex tourists have a limited amount of time in Germany and have to use every minute of it wisely. I don't know the status of the gentleman TT123 and if he is a tourist or not. But if he is as I am, then boycotting a club solely due to lack of AC is not the best decision. Girls are the number one reason, and moreover as a frequent visitor he may already have his established regulars in a club, perhaps even made appointments with a few. That he or someone else did not boycott a club should not be taken as an endorsement of the club management and their decision to not install proper ventilation conditions.

One way to check — is the attendance seasonally depressed in a given club and to what extent is that caused by lack of AC? Now, there are multiple reasons why attendance varies month to month and it is not right to attribute all the variations to a single variable like existence or lack of AC. That said, most businesses and firms have seasonal variations in their revenue intake and they understand the reasons or at least try to understand them and mitigate some of the factors that depresses revenues in the lean months. In the case of Sharks, we have seen several punters already declare that they will stay away from the club during summer months, members here advising other members to stay away till conditions are less hot, etc. The club can take the stance that "we are fine, we have enough attendance as it is" or they can say "we want to improve because that is what good companies and businesses do, so let me listen to my customers". We know which way Sharks has gone so far.

Outside chalets have AC and window.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2365334]What about fans. To me circulating air is much better than static in high temperature. It was unbearably hot in late June and July when I was there. Very few rooms had fans. The non-installation of ceiling fans in rooms at Sharks seems almost sinister.[/QUOTE]You are right, but as long the business is booming why should they invest.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365355]
TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. If others are acting in a similar manner, then Sharks business might not suffer at all as Ortos predicts. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.

[/QUOTE]In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.

[QUOTE=Rovereto;2365238]Hi,

Do you know what happened with Donna? Did she quit one year ago or time by time she still works at Mainhattan? Did you see her in the last year?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Its been more than a year since I saw her. But there has been mention of her some months ago on the Mainhattan thread.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2365481]In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. And I think you made a really good point below in another comment that temperatures have been rising in this region in the last few years. What might have been acceptable and tolerable a few years ago is no longer so. Clubs can put this problem on the back burner for only so long.

A few years ago, Oase was still numero uno among clubs. LU was good, Club was full of men, service reasonably good with not as much upselling etc. But the food sucked. Girls could eat just once a day, and some men had to let them share their food or else the girls were starving. Men could get a pizza or the lousy buffet, then the pizza went away. Customers were unhappy. Had the management paid attention in time, perhaps the club would not have slid. I'm not saying food was the only reason Oase went down the ranks but perhaps that was the canary in the coal Mine? Food quality has improved since those days but that club never fully regained its former glory.

If Sharks mgmt had any sense, they would fix this problem. Unbearable temperatures in the room subtracts from the quality of sex. Girls, themselves sweating, do not relish being fucked by fat men drenched in sweat and that gets reflected in their rush to get out of the room even faster than normal. This is a problem in search of a solution unlike the bar upgrade (water and coke fountains is a different matter).

[QUOTE=Ortos;2365481]In the short term, perhaps you are correct. But in the long term and looking at the Big Picture? I wonder...

And by the way: I was in Frankfurt during the massive heat wave that afflicted Germany during late June/early July. Two-three days: +38-39 degrees. The lack of A/C notwithstanding, I elected to go to Sharks over other (cooler) options, simply because in the end there would be better selection and LU for me. That is my main priority, but I didn't session in the rooms as much as I would have liked, because of the pervasive heat. The girls on offer will always be the alpha and omega for me in determining which club(s) I visit.

I guess in the end it comes down to this: how much do the club management (i.e. the people who decide where to invest improvement money) value the comfort of persons who visit the rooms? If all they care about is getting them into the club, then maybe for the management, making sessions in the room comfortable for their male (and female!) guests is of low priority.[/QUOTE]FKK is not a normal business, just have a quick about who are the owners of the clubs. The boss of Paradise Stuttgart was sentenced for 5 years jail, last month the new boss a woman was arrested for taxes issues. As long the business is booming no need to further invest also despite KK aggressive comments against me, the reality is also that the customers are also changing, far more diversity, younger man just looking for quick sex with what they consider being beautiful girls, sili, Botox, porn look. Blonde, it is not their fault they were mostly educated by TV reality shows or Youporn, and also probably the real natural educated beauties are perhaps not accessible to them.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365355]TT123 chose to go to Sharks two days in a row during a heat wave. TT123 certainly did not vote with his feet or EUR. He could have went to air conditioned clubs like Palace and World. He chose not to.[/QUOTE]No choice. I am a tourist with only 7 days for this FKK tour. I had already set aside 2 days for World with appointments with regulars and the rest of the World line-up was not worth a 3rd visit.

I was told that 2 of my favorites would certainly be in Sharks that Friday. And I hate Palace. I could have made a 2nd visit to Oase though, but Becky beckoned and my feet took me to the heat of Sharks, regardless what my head might have wanted to choose.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2365449]You are right, but as long the business is booming why should they invest.[/QUOTE]I don't know any other club who made so many improvement than Sharks since 2015 : They built veranda to increase restaurant, they built chalets I love outside, with AC and window, they made a beautiful garden with beautiful trees, they made 4 new rooms upstairs, they even made new rooms, had enjoyable times with Florentina in elephant, near SM and mirror rooms, I don t know why closed now. I enjoy breakfast at Sharks, one of the best club for services I know. My only problem at Sharks is casting, quantity but no wow beauty seen since long time unfortunately for me. I need beauty to enjoy sex. Heat make sex erotic with sweat, smell, for sure difficult then for girls stamina, but when You are a bit sporty, really nothing compare to climbing Stelvio, starting in Bormio under 35 degrees, then after 20/25 mn in red zone under such high heat, You feel your body is losing water, muscles become hard, not little terminator, and I was very surprised to break record with such killing body sensations, but recovering, after more than 2 hours of such effort, was long, needing days to be able to make performances again. Felt good sensations in Stelvio from Prato, but a bit disappointed by my time on top when I wanted record, but lost too much power, body needed more time to make power, la Bonette. FR was also just average, but again much better performances in legendary Galibier. This is real sport, and even under sometimes more than 40 degrees on bicycle thermometer, I think I had 45 degrees in Bourg the Oisans when starting Alpe the Huez on July 2016 for my first climbing of the year, this is my Summer tour, but real passion, as long I will be able to break records, I climb only for records.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the content of the report was [u]pointless[/u], [u]unproductive[/u] [u]drama[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [I]Thank You! [/I][/blue]

Can anyone share the recent natural busty lineup in Sharks? Thanks.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2365604]I was told that 2 of my favorites would certainly be in Sharks that Friday. And I hate Palace. I could have made a 2nd visit to Oase though, but Becky beckoned and my feet took me to the heat of Sharks, regardless what my head might have wanted to choose.[/QUOTE]Your usage of "could have" suggests that you had other options. As KK would put it you could have called an "audible" on the ground and adjusted your schedule, but your priority was to chase Becky and your other two favorites, which I can relate to, because I probably would have done the same. My point is you, I, Ortos and 95 percent of the ISG readership base our visits primarily around the LU. Club management knows that if they can maintain LUs at "adequate" levels, addicts like us our going to come get our fix. Even it means suffering a heatstroke in the room. In the end, Sharks management will still collect their entry fees on this customer segment.

Locals of course have more flexibility. Locals can simply schedule around these days. For instance, if a local visits every Sunday, and one Sunday falls during a heat wave, he can throw in a Wednesday visit, and Sharks management, still collects four entries from this customer for that month.

But having a nice outdoor area I am told can pull in customers who otherwise would not attend. Some mongers attend Oase only during the warm months. These mongers (usually locals) may keep a close eye on those rare 30 degree days and attend Oase specifically on those days. Looks like there were five in August 2019: [URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/de/frankfurt/15230/august-weather/167903?year=2019[/URL].

As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2365500]I agree with you. And I think you made a really good point below in another comment that temperatures have been rising in this region in the last few years. What might have been acceptable and tolerable a few years ago is no longer so. Clubs can put this problem on the back burner for only so long.

A few years ago, Oase was still numero uno among clubs. LU was good, Club was full of men, service reasonably good with not as much upselling etc. But the food sucked. Girls could eat just once a day, and some men had to let them share their food or else the girls were starving. Men could get a pizza or the lousy buffet, then the pizza went away. Customers were unhappy. Had the management paid attention in time, perhaps the club would not have slid. I'm not saying food was the only reason Oase went down the ranks but perhaps that was the canary in the coal Mine? Food quality has improved since those days but that club never fully regained its former glory.

If Sharks mgmt had any sense, they would fix this problem. Unbearable temperatures in the room subtracts from the quality of sex. Girls, themselves sweating, do not relish being fucked by fat men drenched in sweat and that gets reflected in their rush to get out of the room even faster than normal. This is a problem in search of a solution unlike the bar upgrade (water and coke fountains is a different matter).[/QUOTE]Good management is why some club succeed and others fail. Sharks does some things right (flexibility for girls and discount Sunday). But efficiency of staff is poor (from receptionist to bar maid). The fact they have AC in the cabins says they are not unaware of the problem. It is probably a big project inside. However, a few rooms do have AC. That is why I prefer NRW clubs because they are smaller and are responsive to customer desires.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2365438]Outside chalets have AC and window.[/QUOTE]How can we get outside chalets on hot days when you and guys like you spend hours in them. I only need 1/2 hour :-)

[QUOTE=Turgid;2365777]How can we get outside chalets on hot days when you and guys like you spend hours in them. I only need 1/2 hour.[/QUOTE]When I visited weekly on 2015/2016, I don't think you have to wait often now because of me to have a free chalet. I usually don't have problem to find a free chalet. My standard is 1 hour because I enjoy to foreplay, sometimes for longer time. 100 for 1 enjoyable hour is good deal for me.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2365760]As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.[/QUOTE]With regards to Germans staying in the cities in August, don't forget about cool churches, cinemas, pubs with indoor AC and lots and lots of wine festivals almost everywhere!

For those who still remember: when FKK-World opened in 2003,16 years ago, it was one of the hottest summers I ever experienced.

With regards to the lineup at Sharks after the re-opening of the bar: lots of known faces are missing, but nevertheless, at least 80 girls can be expected to be present on Wednesday and on the weekend.

As others noted, German homes, unlike hotels that cater to international guests, are not equipped with AC. On those 38-39 days, German homes will not cool down until the temperatures drop after midnight, so Germans must seek refuge outside of their home. That means public swimming pools, outdoor cafes, coffee shops with AC, or FKK clubs with outdoor areas.

My house is equipped with AC just because I have a big land and I can do what I want. When you live in a apartment in France or Germany it is a real nightmare to equip it with a AC after the construction is completed, you need the agreement of all the other owners, from the local authorities. And on top of that it is costly.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2365767]Good management is why some club succeed and others fail. Sharks does some things right (flexibility for girls and discount Sunday). But efficiency of staff is poor (from receptionist to bar maid). The fact they have AC in the cabins says they are not unaware of the problem. It is probably a big project inside. However, a few rooms do have AC. That is why I prefer NRW clubs because they are smaller and are responsive to customer desires.[/QUOTE]Just for club, Sharks is higher level for me than Bruggen and far higher level than LR. At Sharks, you can eat until at night, when finished at GT and LR at 9 pm, at LR nothing to eat after and pizzas are not anymore what they were. I don t need free beer. But most important is casting and beauties are rare.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2366047]With regards to Germans staying in the cities in August, don't forget about cool churches, cinemas, pubs with indoor AC and lots and lots of wine festivals almost everywhere!

For those who still remember: when FKK-World opened in 2003,16 years ago, it was one of the hottest summers I ever experienced.[/QUOTE]So we've established that the average German monger lives in a home without AC and he needs to find a way to stay cool on those 35 degree days. Would a FKK club with a nice pool and outdoor area (I. E. World summer 2003) be a major selling point?

Looking at the actual temperatures calendar again, I can see that this past Saturday was 33 degrees. And that two Saturdays prior it was a more mild 22 degrees. I would be curious to know the attendance figures for Sharks on these two Saturdays. Just for fun, I will make some broad sweeping assumptions. Obviously anybody who was in attendance both of these Saturdays can offer their impressions: (1) the hotter Saturday had higher volume of paying customers, (2) the milder Saturday had higher overall volume of rooms, (3) the hotter Saturday had more rooms occurring between hours of say midnight and closing. I make these assertions, even with the knowledge that August 17 may have gotten a slight attendance bump from incoming French, Italian, and Belgians enjoying their holiday weekend.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2366609]So we've established that the average German monger lives in a home without AC and he needs to find a way to stay cool on those 35 degree days. Would a FKK club with a nice pool and outdoor area (I. E. World summer 2003) be a major selling point?

Looking at the actual temperatures calendar again, I can see that this past Saturday was 33 degrees. And that two Saturdays prior it was a more mild 22 degrees. I would be curious to know the attendance figures for Sharks on these two Saturdays. Just for fun, I will make some broad sweeping assumptions. Obviously anybody who was in attendance both of these Saturdays can offer their impressions: (1) the hotter Saturday had higher volume of paying customers, (2) the milder Saturday had higher overall volume of rooms, (3) the hotter Saturday had more rooms occurring between hours of say midnight and closing. I make these assertions, even with the knowledge that August 17 may have gotten a slight attendance bump from incoming French, Italian, and Belgians enjoying their holiday weekend.[/QUOTE]If you go to Oase in the summer, you will see the garden and pool packed, and a large number of people will leave after the sun goes down. These folks don't even go to the rooms. They just come to enjoy the facilities. The same is true for some NRW clubs where they come to drink the beer and to socialize. So, coming from a hot house is definitely true.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2364926]As your first visit which you refer to was in 2004 I am not sure it is a basis for comparison for newbies in 2019. I do agree that resisting upward pressure on prices is a good recommendation

As for asians being suckers. I would not tar one ethnic group in that way, as this could seem racist. I looked at the Japanese forum and see that there is a lively awareness of the correct prices, even if many guys choose to pay more.[/QUOTE]Its so true, I had seen many Germans starring at me with toung out and dick in the hand sitting on the couch watching me taking beautiful girl in room. I don't think I pay too much, one hour in room 100 plus come in mouth if that happens pay 50 extra, but for that girl has to work very hard, for me to come, it takes me close to 50 minutes to finish the session and pay 100 is fair price. As long as I get the girl that I want. I know Germans like old Sylvanna type 30 for 50 and I don't have any problem with that, they get 30 for 50, to me they are doing me a favor by keeping all those pesty girls away from me. Thank you.

McAdonis. We clearly need a guy on ths spot to report. I am willing to undertake this arduous duty if you can get crowdfunding for me from ISG members.

In the absence of first hand reports, monitoring of attendance recorded in live time by Google would be a partial evidence source (I think many many guys going to Sharks forget to turn off their location tracker).

As for the debate on German homes, they do usually have effective shutters which keep out the daytime heat effectively. As well as daylight :( As one of those odd Europeans I have a preference for no AC until temperatures get to over 30 :eek:

In an FKK nothing beats getting sweaty with a slippery girl :D

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2367154]McAdonis. We clearly need a guy on ths spot to report. I am willing to undertake this arduous duty if you can get crowdfunding for me from ISG members.

In the absence of first hand reports, monitoring of attendance recorded in live time by Google would be a partial evidence source (I think many many guys going to Sharks forget to turn off their location tracker).

As for the debate on German homes, they do usually have effective shutters which keep out the daytime heat effectively. As well as daylight :( As one of those odd Europeans I have a preference for no AC until temperatures get to over 30 :eek:

In an FKK nothing beats getting sweaty with a slippery girl :D

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Just go ahead and start a Kickstarter campaign! Lets see how much you'll get. 😁.

Yes, sweat, smell if not bad, and heat are erotic. When girls have cold feet, hands and nose, they are not much into sex.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2367163]Yes, sweat, smell if not bad, and heat are erotic. When girls have cold feet, hands and nose, they are not much into sex.[/QUOTE]I dislike the extremes, too hot or too cold is not good for me.

Hi gang,

All of this talk about the climate has me wondering: I'm coming to Sharks at the end of this month, and I know that, depending on the day, there is still a chance for warm sunny days in the coming weeks. Does anyone know if there is a set day that marks the end of the outdoor patio area? I'm hoping that I don't miss it, as with both Sharks and Oase, enjoying the sunbathing beauties outdoors is part of the overall experience, and I've never even been to and FKK during colder times of the year. Is it just packed to the gills inside during the fall / winter months?

Thanks,

MCP.

[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2367630]Hi gang,

All of this talk about the climate has me wondering: I'm coming to Sharks at the end of this month, and I know that, depending on the day, there is still a chance for warm sunny days in the coming weeks. Does anyone know if there is a set day that marks the end of the outdoor patio area? I'm hoping that I don't miss it, as with both Sharks and Oase, enjoying the sunbathing beauties outdoors is part of the overall experience, and I've never even been to and FKK during colder times of the year. Is it just packed to the gills inside during the fall / winter months?

Thanks,

MCP.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that any girl will bath in the outdoor pool end of September.

By the way, the pretty Vanessa who specialises on extracting 100 to 150 euros for 30 minutes from Asian newcomers has moved to Oase, doing the same thing. Saw her systematically hunting down every new Asian in sight earlier this week.

"Hi! I do not work in Oase and I have never worked there! The only club I worked it was Sharks, so no more talking.

Best club I know. I do 1-hour rooms and by that I do get great service. Will not talk about names anymore here and some of you understand why.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2367691]Best club I know. I do 1-hour rooms and by that I do get great service. Will not talk about names anymore here and some of you understand why.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed 1 hour rooms generally help to avoid any upselling. Strange that about names. Many say you on very good terms with Bitumen.

We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367948]We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.[/QUOTE]Yes, new beautiful design in lounge for Sharks, when Oase new lounge is now just a porn kino killing my desire when seeing so many pieces of meat on screens, but Sharks casting is so poor even I was very happy to see ex Larissa LR and I really wish her to succeed. Melissa was welcoming but didn't feel wow for our room, to pay 150 . Nice to meet Jessi and Jasmin from Paradise Stuttgart which may be really dead, when Sharks business seemed slow on a Friday evening.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367948]We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.[/QUOTE]I thought the lineups at Oase & Sharks were among the best in the world? Is that not the case?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367948]We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.[/QUOTE]LU is the most difficult to renovate: more some reason better economical environment in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, new law. Less and less new and fresh girls are entering the P6 scene, sorry to repeat it again but always the same girls around when I read some guys paying for example for Alina first she worked 10 years in World and now in Shark sorry but I will never spend 1 euro for her. For me she is a veteran prostitutes, over fucked not my cup of tea at all.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367948]We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.[/QUOTE]I bet most others don't understand what exactly you mean with "improvement of line ups". Because they have different taste.

This business is primarily about making money, not about fulfilling wet and childish dreams (like: they need to change to make me feel better!)

Nobody forces you to come to Germany to fuck romanian girls. Am I right?

[QUOTE=Vanessa23;2367683]By the way, the pretty Vanessa who specialises on extracting 100 to 150 euros for 30 minutes from Asian newcomers has moved to Oase, doing the same thing. Saw her systematically hunting down every new Asian in sight earlier this week.

"Hi! I do not work in Oase and I have never worked there! The only club I worked it was Sharks, so no more talking.[/QUOTE]It seems that you agree with the first part of his statement LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367564]I dislike the extremes, too hot or too cold is not good for me.[/QUOTE]I'm iceman when I have to be in very cold in my mountains in Winter. Not anymore now, unfortunately for snow, but I remember around 1980, when I was crazy to improve for slalom, training in Val Thorens under less than minus 30 degrees Celsius and wind, so feeling was about minus 40, didn't feel my nose, ears and fingers. On April 1980 , had a slalom training session in Kirchberg Austria, less than minus 20 with snow and ice for the whole week, trainer just prepared the track and ran inside, others preferred to stay inside and lost session, but every day I trained until I couldn't feel my feet because of time spent on lift, not closed gondola, worst was my fingers did freeze and I didn't feel anything anymore, so I found a solution to recover feeling, I put my hands under hot water, I asked to my little girlfriend I met there to call trainer when I will fall under so violent pain, I was only a child but I did ski every day and did this torture since third day for 4 days. Only way to recover my fingers feeling. Unfortunately for snow, on last Winters, I could ski topless at 3200 meters high on top of Val Thorens on Christmas. Nearly 40 years later, now sometimes when I start to climb, around 40 degrees on bicycle at the bottom, so after about 30 mn, body is losing its water, muscles become hard, less flexible and heart is not working easy, but I was happy for my time on Stelvio from Bormio, even my body suffered after more than 2 hours intense effort in red zone. So fucking under heat is just training, but I know difficult for girls, and they don t want to fuck outside with me when cold, Kate doesn't feel good when she has cold feet, have to put them on my belly to warm them, like did my real life girlfriends, I asked them to sleep both full naked, more erotic, so when they had cold feet, they put them on me to get heat.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2367995]LU is the most difficult to renovate: more some reason better economical environment in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, new law. Less and less new and fresh girls are entering the P6 scene, sorry to repeat it again but always the same girls around when I read some guys paying for example for Alina first she worked 10 years in World and now in Shark sorry but I will never spend 1 euro for her. For me she is a veteran prostitutes, over fucked not my cup of tea at all.[/QUOTE]I met some girls who were not new in business, but still very fresh behavior with me, like Alyssa at LR on July 2017, superstar Katalina of course, Sissi. Pol at GT, who ex GT Vienna. Girls behave from what we are.

Visited Oase and Sharks on Friday, saw more than 150 girls, despite very welcoming Melissa because she didn't have business, 0 room for me, but beauty I found at Samya on Thursday night, I felt: I want her, gave me hopes, even beauties are rare for my eyes, but can still find, and among Turkish, taking care of her, giving her present for woman and got enjoyable time without money nor grocery talk, just fluent sex. Same today at Gold with ex masseur girl, far more chic than others, unfortunately no Miss You like me? After a bit complicated start, but after present for woman, interesting, for 50 for 40 mn, RTC rate but far higher chic. Paying is to buy time, but have to deserve girls will to please and much more enjoyable than playing beggar.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2368034]I bet most others don't understand what exactly you mean with "improvement of line ups". Because they have different taste.

This business is primarily about making money, not about fulfilling wet and childish dreams (like: they need to change to make me feel better!)

Nobody forces you to come to Germany to fuck romanian girls. Am I right?[/QUOTE]Strikes me that your response was wholly unmerited. It was a perfectly fair point. The refurbishments in the clubs improve the quality of a visit but ultimately customers remember most the time they had with one or more pretty girls who are available (the line up. And I believe, contrary to your response, that most people who log into an ISG forum know full well what the line up is). So this is not "fulfilling wet and childish dreams" - another unnecessarily gratuitous comment. And Turgid didn't say he was forced to come to Germany (and closing comment entirely otiose). He is entitled to comment, in this forum, that he hopes the LUs in the clubs improve. As many before him have commented and many will in future. You appear to have taken great umbrage at the criticism of the LU presently, for no good reason and your response was disappointingly offensive.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2367948]We have witnessed in recent times refurbishments in the three major FKKs of Frankfurt in quick succession namely in Palace, Oase and Sharks. I do hope efforts are being made to improve the line ups. I'd rather a great lineup in an average environment than a poor lu in luxurious surroundings.[/QUOTE]If they want to waste money on infrastructure I'm ok with that but then let them fit rooms with aircon.

It's not as though airconditioners were to stay idle most of the year, they can double as heating devices during the long winter.

Hi,

Being an Asian and First timer to FKK, I meticulously RTFF which was indeed great help for my visit last month.

-Took AIR Liner Bus from directly FRA to Darmstadt and Checked-in Pallas Hotel, 50 e, walking distance from FKK Sharks. Entered Shark around afternoon and was given brief intro.

-Lessons learnt from RTFF, Didn't approach anyone and declined ladies politely until 2-3 hours to observe how things work and had brief chats with girls of my interest. Took enough time to let my brain control over johnny. Didn't approach girls mentioned in forum as I wanted to try as per my taste and make / learn (from my) own mistake.

Nancy aka Nana: 28 yrs, Croatian, 45/75 e.

I really like the way she treated me like GF. We had a long discussion over lunch before we could actually talk about the deed. We settled for both options (30/50 e, 60/100 e) depends on my experience during first shot. Had to wait lot to get room upstairs; Eventually got a hot room. Started with BBBJ and tried many positions for an exhaustive and mind-blowing 45 minutes first shot, almost everything was on menu except Anal and CIM.

Jennifer aka Maya, 19 yrs, Romanian, 30/100 e including CIM+Anal.

We had long discussion as she was chatty with an athletic body (claimed to ex. Football player), Started with BBBJ, Tried both holes in Mish, WOT, Cow-Girl, Doggy eventually CIM exact at 30 minutes. Strange things I've noticed that her V was tighter than A. Only disappointment were her Boobs, very small but service made up for that.

Stayed for few more hours; chatted and negotiated with girls but was exhausted by long lay-over flight and intense sessions. Called it a day satisfactorily!

Thanks mates for all informative and helpful FRs!

[QUOTE=XXL;2368223]If they want to waste money on infrastructure I'm ok with that but then let them fit rooms with aircon.

It's not as though airconditioners were to stay idle most of the year, they can double as heating devices during the long winter.[/QUOTE]You are right but as I already wrote it, in Germany to install AC after the building is completed is not so easy, probably they will need a agreement from the local government and also from the neighbors due to the noise issues, all this is difficult to get. Easier to install LED.

[QUOTE=SamXplorer;2368322]Hi,

Being an Asian and First timer to FKK, I meticulously RTFF which was indeed great help for my visit last month.

-Took AIR Liner Bus from directly FRA to Darmstadt and Checked-in Pallas Hotel, 50 e, walking distance from FKK Sharks. Entered Shark around afternoon and was given brief intro.

-Lessons learnt from RTFF, Didn't approach anyone and declined ladies politely until 2-3 hours to observe how things work and had brief chats with girls of my interest. Took enough time to let my brain control over johnny. Didn't approach girls mentioned in forum as I wanted to try as per my taste and make / learn (from my) own mistake.

Nancy aka Nana: 28 yrs, Croatian, 45/75 e.

I really like the way she treated me like GF. We had a long discussion over lunch before we could actually talk about the deed. We settled for both options (30/50 e, 60/100 e) depends on my experience during first shot. Had to wait lot to get room upstairs; Eventually got a hot room. Started with BBBJ and tried many positions for an exhaustive and mind-blowing 45 minutes first shot, almost everything was on menu except Anal and CIM.[/QUOTE]When Asian now get discount at slow business for girls Sharks. 30 mn with CIM and anal should be 200.

[QUOTE=SamXplorer;2368322]Hi,

Being an Asian and First timer to FKK, I meticulously RTFF which was indeed great help for my visit last month.

-Took AIR Liner Bus from directly FRA to Darmstadt and Checked-in Pallas Hotel, 50 e, walking distance from FKK Sharks. Entered Shark around afternoon and was given brief intro.

-Lessons learnt from RTFF, Didn't approach anyone and declined ladies politely until 2-3 hours to observe how things work and had brief chats with girls of my interest. Took enough time to let my brain control over johnny. Didn't approach girls mentioned in forum as I wanted to try as per my taste and make / learn (from my) own mistake.

Nancy aka Nana: 28 yrs, Croatian, 45/75 e.

I really like the way she treated me like GF. We had a long discussion over lunch before we could actually talk about the deed. We settled for both options (30/50 e, 60/100 e) depends on my experience during first shot. Had to wait lot to get room upstairs; Eventually got a hot room. Started with BBBJ and tried many positions for an exhaustive and mind-blowing 45 minutes first shot, almost everything was on menu except Anal and CIM.
[/QUOTE]Glad to see a first visit go well. Jennifer's V is indeed amazingly tight -- she has wicked control over her muscles down there. Tasty too.

[QUOTE=SamXplorer;2368322]Jennifer aka Maya, 19 yrs, Romanian, 30/100 e including CIM+Anal.

We had long discussion as she was chatty with an athletic body (claimed to ex. Football player), Started with BBBJ, Tried both holes in Mish, WOT, Cow-Girl, Doggy eventually CIM exact at 30 minutes. Strange things I've noticed that her V was tighter than A. Only disappointment were her Boobs, very small but service made up for that.![/QUOTE]100 Euro for half an hour including these two extras IMHO is an almost unbelievable offer.

So I hadn't been to FKK for three years and was hoping for get back next year. Then the gods smiled on me.

So as luck would have it I had some trouble with my flights to Graz and ended up in Frankfurt for a day. There are worse fates!*.

Rolled into Sharks around 3:30. It was relatively busy. I would guess 30 ish girls and maybe 40-50 guys? Definitely seemed more guys than girls. All the girls were relatively attractive, save one or two mommyish gals. *.

Anyone who says there are not enough doable girls at Sharks needs their eyesight checked IMO. Granted there are only 1 or 2 that I am deeply attracted to but they are all pretty in their own way and surely worth a roll in the sheets. *.

Big surprise for me later in the visit is I see the most mommyish of all — very wide hips, sorta fat, big fat tits, a bit saggy — coming down the stairs a couple times after sessioning. She was way more popular than many of the slim attractive girls — go figure. *.

Sharks remains the king of the clubs for facilities IMO. Just that huge central room with 15 M ceilings and lights and waterfalls. I mean it's epic on another scale compared to other clubs I've been to (Oase, World, Palace, Artemis, Globe, GoldenTime). The sauna, jacuzzi, relax area, massage, restaurant *etc are all very nice. *.

Probably the most notable thing about my visit is — though I am not a local — by resisting the Sharks I was able to receive very fair old-school pricing. I won't state it exactly so as to not run afoul of the girl cartel that supposedly reads here but you can I'm me if interested. I honestly was pleasantly surprised. *.

So as I rolled in I got my usual Jack and Coke and tried out strolling or observing from various spots. One of my favorite spots was the two lounge chairs directly at the top of the stairs. It's a reasonable balance of observing and relaxing with only a few of the braver girls rousing you to disturb you. *.

Normally I don't go with the first girl that approaches. And usually they are Sharks. In this case however I was approached by Sophie. She is just my type — perfect Ro-girl — big dark eyes, full but not fake lips, petite. There is no question she would upsell a newbie for a lot of extras and tries that on me. But when I stuck to my guns I got what I wanted including CIM at a super fair price. And off we went. *.

In the room she clearly wanted to finish me early (a newbie would be done for sure in 15 minutes on a first shot with Sophie). But I put her off. To her credit she adjusted as asked and didn't keep pushing. For the newbies, here are some of the techniques I used:

1. Stopped the BBBJ before I got too close to the edge and moved her to making out on the bed. She is a great kisser and I truly enjoyed this as much as anything. *.

2. Did DATY and FIV for 5-10 min.

3. When she went for the condom I waved her off and said let's do more BBBJ which she obliged. *.

4. Once the condom is on I can go a long time for obvious reasons. But it's just not as good as the rest. So use the above to delay getting here. And if you are going to cum too early even with the condom on call for a position switch. This is a good reset. *.

Anyhow we had plenty of kissing and she is a GREAT kisser. Super deep and wet and passionate. We did Kissing, then BJ, DATY, FIV, mish, cowgirl, doggie, and finished CIM. If you can survive her upsell and the initial rush attempts, Sophie is a top of the line girl at a fair price. (1/2 HR — finished at 25 minute mark and let her exit)*.

After Sophie I tried to relax in the chair at the top of the stairs but was awakened when a girl made it recline abruptly. She was really very nice — other than waking me. Can't recall her name. Dark green eyes. Not quite my thing but I would have gone with her later. When I said I wasn't ready she was really sweet. Not like some as you will see. But later I did not see her. Oh well. *.

Later I moved to a lounge chair back near the jacuzzis on the second floor to relax a bit further and recover for session 2. A blond with pink translucent framed glasses came and chatted me up. She was OK and very friendly. Some face acne covered in makeup I could overlook. A light peck kiss. A little tit feel when discussing them. Then things went badly down hill when discussing price. Upsell kissing. FIV only with condom on finger *(WTF? So I politely declined. *.

Well she got all worked up and said "I let you kiss me I let you feel my tits and now you don't want to go" OMG it's her fault not mine — it was a peck and you offered covered fingering! That's not even a thing. What a *****. Wish I could remember her name to warn you off. Avoid pink glasses!*.

So finally I am recovered and go to browse. There is this one freak of nature girl named Brenda. Very pretty. Impossibly slim. Big natural tits. I mean almost impossible to imagine the combination — seems physically impossible, yet there she is. And very good English. But as I chatted her up there was no moving in or light touching. I mean zero attempt at chemistry. Would have been a great optifuck but I like GFE so I moved on (a couple years ago I surely would have gone with her— but I've learned a lack of at-the-bar chemistry should not be ignored. Find someone who LIKES you or pretends she does.).

Then I find Claudia. She is a wallflower. On the couches to the back right. She is relaxing on her back with her legs spread (towel) and looks kind of sexy. So I go sit with her. Limited English. Only 2 months at Sharks (I like less experienced girls and she is definitely fresh and new). I can tell she's a little chubby because of her arms and she is wearing a waist towel which is always a tell. Nonetheless she is SUPER CUTE and it's the baby-fat kind of fat. Just a little thick all over— not giggly cellulite fat.

She asks what I like and when I give her the full list, her price is more than fair right out if the gate. No upsell. No haggling. For either a half or an hour — for me to choose. What a sweet and genuine girl. Slightly second tier due to her few extra pounds, But what a face. I have found my sweetie. Let's go babe!

In the room it is just awesome BFGF kind of vibe. Very passionate kissing (not as good a kisser as Sophie but not for lack of trying). And within two minutes I say let's stay an hour. Very solid BJ including spectacular BLS —- clearly she loves to do that unlike some girls. And as she blows me she is sideways (so not a total noob) to give me pussy access. She must like sucking cock because she is sloppy wet already when I slide a finger in. OMG slippery goodness. Really top notch. *.

After a good bit of that — this being round 2 I take a lot to get me off — *I DATY for probably 15+ minutes. She is so into it and sloppy wet like a new girl should be. Lots of FIV on the Gspot. Her clit is small and less sensitive so more like a series of shivering Os rather than mega hip buck or pussy clamp. But she seems to really enjoy, so I keep at it and wow does it get her in the mood. *.

Lots more BLS and doggie and mish and cowgirl. *Lots of Mish kissing which I adore. Oh BTW spectacular firm natural the cups, only slightly marred by indent nipples. Then back to BJ to finish. We finish with me handjobbing her spit while she BLSs. Bam. Really nice. She is content to cuddle and gaze — I love her face — but after 5 or so minutes of that I wrap. About 45 minutes room time. Not a problem — great rate and great gal. Worth every euro. Highly recommend!*.

I need to head back to the hotel for a conference call so I checkout but will return. (Easy to do. Just tell them) Stay tuned for round 3.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2368697]So I hadn't been to FKK for three years and was hoping for get back next year. Then the gods smiled on me.

So as luck would have it I had some trouble with my flights to Graz and ended up in Frankfurt for a day. There are worse fates!*.

Stay tuned for round 3.[/QUOTE]Great report Steve. As ever. Is the new bar area renovation complete now?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2368704]Great report Steve. As ever. Is the new bar area renovation complete now?[/QUOTE]It's funny because apparently the new bar is done but I don't recall the old one being inadequate. One of the girls proudly pointed it out but I was like meh looks nice old one seemed fine.

But in general Sharks is mega, glam, deluxe in the main area. Just awesome.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2368697]I had some trouble with my flights to Graz and ended up in Frankfurt for a day. There are worse fates!*.

She asks what I like and when I give her the full list, her price is more than fair right out if the gate. No upsell. No haggling. For either a half or an hour for me to choose. What a sweet and genuine girl. Slightly second tier due to her few extra pounds, But what a face. I have found my sweetie. Let's go babe!
[/QUOTE]Amazing, great report. Thanks for this. I have the same travel arrangements coming up, "have to overnight" in Frankfurt due to schedule issues with flights. This girl is now on my radar for exactly the reasons I hope are still there when I visit. Genuineness. Or maybe you just had chemistry. SOunds fun!. Best. Can't wait for part 3 of the reporting. You're a regular FKK Rick Steves.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2368709]Amazing, great report. Thanks for this. I have the same travel arrangements coming up, "have to overnight" in Frankfurt due to schedule issues with flights. This girl is now on my radar for exactly the reasons I hope are still there when I visit. Genuineness. Or maybe you just had chemistry. Sounds fun!. Best. Can't wait for part 3 of the reporting. You're a regular FKK Rick Steves.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, as good as Steve's reporting is, I sir am the "Rick Steeves" of FKK-land for I am the one who does Europe more than anybody "through the backdoor". LOLOLOL!

Anyone who says there are not enough doable girls at Sharks needs their eyesight checked IMO. Granted there are only 1 or 2 that I am deeply attracted to but they are all pretty in their own way and surely worth a roll in the sheets.

I had my eyes checked last month and they are very fine, I just recommend you to see the girls outside in the garden under the sun light and not in the very dark bar area may be you will change your mind. I don t pay for average girls I pay for beauties normal girls are available for free. Just take out the girls with sili, botox, hair extensions, eyes latchers. All are no go for me and probably you will see less attractive girls.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2368707]It's funny because apparently the new bar is done but I don't recall the old one being inadequate.[/QUOTE]Have they even reopened the downstairs rooms yet?

Priorities...

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2368775]Have they even reopened the downstairs rooms yet?

Priorities...[/QUOTE]New downstairs rooms are now closed. No more elephant, but massage now there.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2368739]With all due respect, as good as Steve's reporting is, I sir am the "Rick Steeves" of FKK-land for I am the one who does Europe more than anybody "through the backdoor". LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]Well that is a tour I definitely want to go on. My favorite thing would be to follow you through those Greek Isles. Feel free to PM me anytime (with your recommendations). And by PM I mean Private Message, just in case you had other thoughts.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2368697]...............Big surprise for me later in the visit is I see the most mommyish of all very wide hips, sorta fat, big fat tits, a bit saggy coming down the stairs a couple times after sessioning. She was way more popular than many of the slim attractive girls go figure. ...........[/QUOTE]Angelica from Latvia. I did her in 2017. Worth doing!

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2368775]Have they even reopened the downstairs rooms yet?[/QUOTE]No. A pity as these rooms were really nice, too.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368862]Angelica from Latvia. I did her in 2017. Worth doing![/QUOTE]I did her last year. Definitely worth doing. Very GFE.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2368697]So I hadn't been to FKK for three years and was hoping for get back next year. Then the gods smiled on me.

So as luck would have it I had some trouble with my flights to Graz and ended up in Frankfurt for a day. There are worse fates!*.

Rolled into Sharks around 3:30. It was relatively busy. I would guess 30 ish girls and maybe 40-50 guys? Definitely seemed more guys than girls. All the girls were relatively attractive, save one or two mommyish gals. *.

Anyone who says there are not enough doable girls at Sharks needs their eyesight checked IMO. Granted there are only 1 or 2 that I am deeply attracted to but they are all pretty in their own way and surely worth a roll in the sheets..[/QUOTE]We may not have same standards for our eyes. As told me ex Larissa LR on Friday evening, knowing and seeing me in the past at LR, now you don't go anymore with girls? You don't like girls here? On this Friday, I started at Oase, then moved in the evening to Sharks, I could park easily at 9 pm, best casting day for both, saw probably more than 150 girls, but didn't see any wow Kate Globe, maybe my fault for 1 girl at Oase, but even Melissa was really welcoming but I don't repeat with more expensive than club rate girls, no wow for my eyes in both clubs so 0 room when I don't drive more than 1000 kms just to eat, when I was attracted on previous night at Samya and found a attractive sophisticated chic look at Gold on Saturday. Ex club masseuse, had to seduce her in bed for 40 mn, asked her how much in lockers? She answered 50, like 2 others on previous visits.

My eyes were not even impressed at Aphrodisia where couldn't find a wow look, and also not impressed at Wellcum nor Globe on this summer, when my eyes are used and need chic beauty, not GND I would not go for free in real life. I thought to read you visited Globe and Aphro not long ago.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368862]Angelica from Latvia. I did her in 2017. Worth doing![/QUOTE]What I would call a real wow beauty. I enjoy so much when I feel: I want this girl, at first sight. I only pay for girls who make dream my eyes.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2368889]I did her last year. Definitely worth doing. Very GFE.[/QUOTE]Yep and the G here stands for granny and the F for fat (ass). LOL

So if you recall our intrepid adventurer had finished round 1 with Sophie and round 2 with Claudia and survived the pink glasses ***** and passed over the no chemistry optifuck Brenda (she is probably a nice girl. Who knows.). And now he returns for round 3.

As I enter the club around 9 I go and eat dinner. Really fellas it's not half bad. The potatoes were good, the carrot coleslaw good and the beef OK. I mean it serves its purpose.

After dinner, I decide to go straight to the second floor and get to the quietest lounge chair. I had finished with Claudia at 7:45 and want to wait till at least 10 for round 3 — want to make sure I can execute.

On the way up the stairs I am literally chased down by a Brazilian and a Ro-girl (she says she's from Spain. Think not.) and I allow them to steer me to a couch. They get all draped all over me and trying to convince me to go. I do love a good dupla / duo and might consider later but these girls — at least the Brazilian — are mid thirties I would say. They are very persistent and my "maybe later" leads to several more attempts later to make a date but I fend them off.

There are quite a few pretty girls in the club that I consider. But in the end I don't want to take a chance and so I decide to repeat with Claudia. I get her attention and move to a quiet area to cuddle. It's very pleasant but it's clear she's not going to DFK on the floor so I tell her I want to go really slow and get an hour room.

The room experience is really great (oh BTW make sure to get an upstairs window room. With Sophie we were in a downstairs room with no window — I think that is a pro move to finish quicker — it's not pleasant hanging around in the heat. On the other hand it is completely mirrored and I've never seen myself fuck from so many angles. I could be a butt double in porn! The rest of me not so much! LOL).

Anyhow Claudia and I have a true BFGF experience. We put on her music and leave on her 20 cm heels so we are nearly face to face. And just dance and kiss. If I didn't know better I'the say we BOTH were having an excellent time. Just passionate and real.

When it's time for bed I ask her to leave her heels on. With limited English this takes a few minutes to convey but eventually she gets it and seems intrigued— like this is new. (Maybe it is?) In bed it is even better than the first time. I straddle her stomach and work her beautiful Dee cups in circles like girls like, while she works me by hand. Then laying side by side kissing while handwork and slippery FIV. Really nice slow build.

She does even better BLS than round one. I am convinced she loves this. She will stop and admire my balls. Maybe tweak or caress in a certain way. Suck, lick, glide her fingers over. The fact she enjoys it and it's not a chore is super erotic.

We do 69 for a good 20 minutes. This is excellent, with her thrusting against my tongue in tempo. I can tell she is very into it as she seems to lose track of the BJ from time to time as she is so distracted downstairs. I love it!

We attempt a tittle fuck but honestly it's not the best. Her tits, while natural, are too firm to make a good pussy! You need a bit of softness to get a full wraparound and hers are too firm for that. Oh well. They are great to feel by hand.

So we do great mish kissing and cowgirl and doggie and standing doggie. The mish kissing is best and I think I might cum but do not. We again finish with BLS and me on HJ which is very satisfying — you should try this some time if you have not. The BLS / HJ combo is a sure late-rounds finisher for me.

A little pillow cuddling and wrap up at about 55 minutes I think. God I love to look at her face. And what a genuine GFE hottie, wet and slippery and just a bundle of fun.

So can you get true GFE in an FKK? Yep. Just had it!

Oh and s little post script.

So even tho I can't go another round I decide to enjoy the atmosphere for a few more minutes. It turns out the couches right at the entrance are the place where the least girls accost you so I hang out there.

Eventually though Angela comes over. Very pretty. Just my type. She kneels next to me and we are very close face to face. Super pretty and slim. She is trying to seduce me into round four and might well have succeeded had price not gotten in the way. She is very clear that kissing and FIV are extra. When I tell her other girls have included that for free she says they are very silly.

She's really nice enough about it but when she says things like "I could accept kissing" it just turns me off — I don't want you to accept it. I want a willing partner! Really she is pleasant about the whole thing and we part ways. If you don't mind paying a bit more Angela might be worthy.

But if you don't mind a little baby fat (I don't) Claudia is the clear winner — a true GFE in the FKK at a fair price! And Sophie is worth a tumble and a great kisser — as long as you don't cave to her upsell or attempts at rushing. Enjoy it boys!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2368862]Angelica from Latvia. I did her in 2017. Worth doing![/QUOTE]Not judging just very curious. What do u guys see in a woman I would call "matronly"? As she was descending the second time I though maybe guys like it because it's more like "wife sex" but with someone who is good at it and enthused. Is that it? What is the draw?

Many guys are afraid of beautiful women and even more of princess behavior, when they are the best when You are able to deserve their will to please You, when these numerous guys think these beauties won t treat them well. I remember at World the most chic and sophisticated beauty, not busy when some GND were busier. Just have to see granny Sylvana getting among the best looking guys everywhere she works, when some beauties don t get business. When I discovered Angela, she didn't know me so just said she was not into fast 30 mn room, but no money talk, a real full GFE willing to please back, she asked when I would come back, but even among the prettiest with Melissa, no upselling from Angela, but no wow for both to run to repeat. I need more woman type and more magic. Sometimes I succeed to find, I drive for this.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2369021]The room experience is really great (oh BTW make sure to get an upstairs window room. With Sophie we were in a downstairs room with no window I think that is a pro move to finish quicker it's not pleasant hanging around in the heat.[/QUOTE]It is interesting to read that someone else has tried Sophie, as no one else has mentioned her. My experience with her was very similar, as can be seen from my post on 30 August (see below). But I need to disagree with your deduction above that she heads for the downstairs room. For my session, she brought me to the upstairs corner room with 2 windows and ensuite shower as it was the least hot available.
Enjoyed reading your reports!
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2364653]Also claiming to be new, her name was Sophie. She had a nice smile, but body was a little fleshy. However, service in the room was outstanding. She worked very hard to please and was a bundle of energy. Got really wet continuous kisses from her.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2369026]Not judging just very curious. What do u guys see in a woman I would call "matronly"? As she was descending the second time I though maybe guys like it because it's more like "wife sex" but with someone who is good at it and enthused. Is that it? What is the draw?[/QUOTE]It's hard to know what age we all are in any forum, and the perspective for "OLD" vs "YOUNG". I also have found that more of the mature women seem to really get off in the act versus younger ladies at these clubs. Who knows "taste" is in the eyes, or maybe the mouth?!

Is this discussion any different than the one about anal, or massage or any other sexual enjoyment that for one guy is hot and for the next guy not. Can't remember how many discussions bordering on arguments I've had with people who tell me that massage / tantra providers are a waste of money. There was this massage provider that would have water dripped on your ass crack as you lay on your back. And honestly even as you knew what she was doing, it felt better than almost any tonguing I've received. Not trying to tangent this too much, but I figured this trick was something she learned and honed after years of practice and god bless her, it really worked. And I know- I've paid a lot of ladies to go to work back there! Heh heh. So maybe it's the more mature lots of experience thing.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2369026]Not judging just very curious. What do u guys see in a woman I would call "matronly"? As she was descending the second time I though maybe guys like it because it's more like "wife sex" but with someone who is good at it and enthused. Is that it? What is the draw?[/QUOTE]I am in Medellin now, yesterday I sessioned a 20 yr o hot chica and could not come after an hour and her service was good. Later in the day I went with a thirty something lady with a fat butt and came within a half hour, go figure.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2369106]It's hard to know what age we all are in any forum, and the perspective for "OLD" vs "YOUNG". I also have found that more of the mature women seem to really get off in the act versus younger ladies at these clubs. Who knows "taste" is in the eyes, or maybe the mouth?!

Is this discussion any different than the one about anal, or massage or any other sexual enjoyment that for one guy is hot and for the next guy not. Can't remember how many discussions bordering on arguments I've had with people who tell me that massage / tantra providers are a waste of money. There was this massage provider that would have water dripped on your ass crack as you lay on your back. And honestly even as you knew what she was doing, it felt better than almost any tonguing I've received. Not trying to tangent this too much, but I figured this trick was something she learned and honed after years of practice and god bless her, it really worked. And I know- I've paid a lot of ladies to go to work back there! Heh heh. So maybe it's the more mature lots of experience thing.[/QUOTE]From my experience tastes for certain activities can vary within a lifetime. When I was in my 30's in the eighties I used to enjoy BBBJ more than sex itself. I used to cruise the streets of NYC searching for street walkers to service me in my car. I enjoyed that tremendously. Those were the best blow jobs followed by CIM I ever got in my life, I used to forego sex for that and I'm talking about BBFS which was the norm back then. Now I do exclusively CFS but like to have BBBJ during foreplay.

I went to Sharks first time. It is mixed feeling after 2 days of mongering.

Disclaimer: This post may help new mongers and people who have not yet visited the club. This is my point of view.

Sept7th Day 1- I reached the club around 6. Paid the entrance and straight to shower. Had read about the club and girl in this forum and I took a tour of the club. Its big and nice. I was not in a hurry for the room and was checking the LU. All the ladies were naked with some draped with towels. As I was roaming around many ladies gave looks. One girl waved to me and called, but I just said Hello, and moved on. I did not want to go to room quickly. I took a drink and sat on the couches. The same girl came hunting for me and sat next to me. She asked me that why I was running away. Then slowly we started conversation and she not looking good as well. Nice body and natural tits which I like. We were close with caressing all over her body. We smoked and having a good laugh. Then she asked if I was ready, hell yeah I was. We talked about the price and 1 HR 100 euros, GFE, BBJ and I am not a big fan of other things. It was really great in the room, we just kept kissing with lots of cuddling, talking and kissing. A decent blow job and and in multiple positions. No upselling in the rooim, she was not looking at time, I finally unloaded myself in doggy. Ufff it was great. We talked for a bit and went downstairs and paid her with a tip. One of the best I had as most of the girls I have experienced want to finish quickly so that they can hunt others. Her name is Bianca and she said that this is her first week in sharks and before that she was in Mainhatten.

Anyway after that I didn't feel like going with anyone as most of the girls approached wanted 30 minutes 100. Its up to you guys what you want, as they look eye candy but my experience nis they will not be so great in the room. Finally I didn't like anyone and left for the day.

Day 2: Arrived early to the club around 2 PM. I was hungry but there was not. Much to eat. Had a some. Fruits. Bianca had told she will come by 4 pm. I was waiting for her, but little brother was tempted to go with someone. After lot of scouting I went with a girl, 30 minutes 100 euros, with all the standards covered. CIM is extra. Good blow job, LFK, and was trying to rush things up. Tried cow girl and then went for doggy and finished in doggy. Average service. Don't remember her name, bit she sits with the girls around the pole. The girls around the pole are all sharky.

I took rest, slept for some time and came down for action. Bianca had come, we had some. Couch time and since I was not ready yet I couldn't go. Later she disappeared with someone. I was sitting in rhe couch by the side of stairs on the way on to the massage room. One lady was sitting next to me was on her own. After few minutes she came close to me stated talking. She said she avoiding someone which I didn't believe. Anyway we started talking. Caressing all over her body. She had nice natural tits, very soft. I don't like silicone as girls. With the silicone don't allow you to mess around it and which is understandable.

So it went for a while and then we decided for the room. 1 HR 100, It was great in the room. She was not hurrying, no upsell, no looking at the time. It was all about GFE. We just kissed,. Kissed and kissed. Fucked her many positions, there was a chair and fucked her while I sat in the chair. It was really a good fuck and I was to offload myself in missionary. We chatted for a while and I said that we will leave instead of the girl saying.

After some time I met Bianca. I had to leave the club, she gave me a good time in the couch and unfortunately I couldn't go with her. Anyway it was a good outing in total.

Overall the LU was not that great though the number of ladies are more. There were many MILF and a couple of grandma's.

Sorry for the lengthy post.

[QUOTE=Indemonger;2369227]I was sitting in rhe couch by the side of stairs on the way on to the massage room. One lady was sitting next to me was on her own. After few minutes she came close to me stated talking. She said she avoiding someone which I didn't believe. Anyway we started talking. Caressing all over her body. She had nice natural tits, very soft. I don't like silicone as girls. With the silicone don't allow you to mess around it and which is understandable.

So it went for a while and then we decided for the room. 1 HR 100, It was great in the room. She was not hurrying, no upsell, no looking at the time. It was all about GFE. We just kissed,. Kissed and kissed. Fucked her many positions, there was a chair and fucked her while I sat in the chair. It was really a good fuck and I was to offload myself in missionary. We chatted for a while and I said that we will leave instead of the girl saying.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this great report! It was not too long at all.

Could you please tell us the name of that girl by the side of the stairs? She sounds very interesting from your report.

Or maybe give a more detailed description of her looks, if you do not remember the name. That would be great.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Indemonger;2369227]............. After lot of scouting I went with a girl, 30 minutes 100 euros, with all the standards covered. CIM is extra. Good blow job, LFK, and was trying to rush things up.............[/QUOTE]30 minutes 100 euros and trying to rush things up. Not surprising. She is thinking of the next 30/100 session.

[QUOTE=Indemonger;2369227]I went to Sharks first time. It is mixed feeling after 2 days of mongering..[/QUOTE]No, thank you for the lengthy post! Sounds like a reasonably good time.

Does anyone know if busty natural. Dalma is still working in Sharks?

[QUOTE=Indemonger;2369227]I went to Sharks first time. It is mixed feeling after 2 days of mongering.

Disclaimer: This post may help new mongers and people who have not yet visited the club. This is my point of view.

Sept7th Day 1- I reached the club around 6. Paid the entrance and straight to shower. Had read about the club and girl in this forum and I took a tour of the club. Its big and nice. I was not in a hurry for the room and was checking the LU. All the ladies were naked with some draped with towels. As I was roaming around many ladies gave looks. One girl waved to me and called, but I just said Hello, and moved on. I did not want to go to room quickly. I took a drink and sat on the couches. The same girl came hunting for me and sat next to me. She asked me that why I was running away. Then slowly we started conversation and she not looking good as well. Nice body and natural tits which I like. We were close with caressing all over her body. We smoked and having a good laugh. Then she asked if I was ready, hell yeah I was. We talked about the price and 1 HR 100 euros, GFE, BBJ and I am not a big fan of other things. It was really great in the room, we just kept kissing with lots of cuddling, talking and kissing. A decent blow job and and in multiple positions. No upselling in the rooim, she was not looking at time, I finally unloaded myself in doggy. Ufff it was great. We talked for a bit and went downstairs and paid her with a tip. One of the best I had as most of the girls I have experienced want to finish quickly so that they can hunt others. Her name is Bianca and she said that this is her first week in sharks and before that she was in Mainhatten..[/QUOTE]Is this Bianca the old one who has been in Sharks for at least 3 years or this is new Bianca?

[QUOTE=CharlieHarper4;2369353]Thank you for this great report! It was not too long at all.

Could you please tell us the name of that girl by the side of the stairs? She sounds very interesting from your report.

Or maybe give a more detailed description of her looks, if you do not remember the name. That would be great.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I cannot recollect her name as it was very difficult to pronounce. She told me that she had kept that name on purpose. She is about 160 cms, slim, natural tits, brunette. She sits at the corner just beside the start of the stairs.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2369584]Is this Bianca the old one who has been in Sharks for at least 3 years or this is new Bianca?[/QUOTE]Sorry I don't know, she said she is just 1 week old in Sharks and before that she was in Mainhatten. Don't know if she was telling the truth.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2369584]Is this Bianca the old one who has been in Sharks for at least 3 years or this is new Bianca?[/QUOTE]His description of her service behaviour does not at all sound like the old Bianca! If it is indeed the old Bianca, then I might consider trying her again.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2369584]Is this Bianca the old one who has been in Sharks for at least 3 years or this is new Bianca?[/QUOTE]No. It's a new Bianca and as she said, it's her first week at Sharks after Mainhattan.

[QUOTE=Indemonger;2369227]Her name is Bianca and she said that this is her first week in sharks and before that she was in Mainhatten.[/QUOTE]And I agree with TankTank123: Her service behaviour does not at all sound like the old Bianca, always hiding her ass with a towel.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2369609]His description of her service behaviour does not at all sound like the old Bianca! If it is indeed the old Bianca, then I might consider trying her again.[/QUOTE]He says she was at Mainhattan. Who could that be? The longtime Sharks Bianca is not one to provide GFE and kiss throughout in a regular one hour session for 100, unless kissing is defined as mutual lips coming into close proximity.

Good report though. Thank you, Mr. Indemonger.

I think I saw slim Lavinia ex Bianka World back at Sharks. Also Sade ex Bab. 1 tall blond now with silicon when she didn t need, is also back, she stays around pole.

[QUOTE=Shawnkemp5354;2369482]Does anyone know if busty natural. Dalma is still working in Sharks?[/QUOTE]I heard she stopped working.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2369706]............1 tall blond now with silicon when she didn t need, is also back, she stays around pole.[/QUOTE]That would be Esther. Anyone knows whether Esther did her lips as well, I last saw her in July and I think her face looked funny.

Since four weeks in Sharks and usually sitting together with Manuela and / or Ariella. 35 years old, black hair streaming down the shoulders, body size 34, small tits but with a nice shape, excellent firm body, some tattoo here and there (the result of a youthful folly). Black open-toe shoes. It's a woman with natural horniness on the room. You don't have nor to negotiate neither to ask as for her kissing and all other classical features we know are natural part of her menu. No stress, no rush, no need to complain. I meanwhile shared 5 rooms with her.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2369584]Is this Bianca the old one who has been in Sharks for at least 3 years or this is new Bianca?[/QUOTE]No it's a "new" Bianca from Mainhattan. She gives good service. But she has been in Sharks for more than a week. I met her at Sharks for the first time in the beginning of June. BTW, she got really beautiful eyes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2369882]That would be Esther. Anyone knows whether Esther did her lips as well, I last saw her in July and I think her face looked funny.[/QUOTE]Yes, she did. Unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2369882]That would be Esther. Anyone knows whether Esther did her lips as well, I last saw her in July and I think her face looked funny.[/QUOTE]No not Ester I know since IAA 2015 when she arrived at Sharks, but a blond, a bit model type, who put silicon, she didn't have before. Usually staying around the pole.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2369908]Since four weeks in Sharks and usually sitting together with Manuela and / or Ariella. 35 years old, black hair streaming down the shoulders, body size 34, small tits but with a nice shape, excellent firm body, some tattoo here and there (the result of a youthful folly). Black open-toe shoes. It's a woman with natural horniness on the room. You don't have nor to negotiate neither to ask as for her kissing and all other classical features we know are natural part of her menu. No stress, no rush, no need to complain. I meanwhile shared 5 rooms with her.[/QUOTE]Tedesco. Thank you for sharing. You are a gentleman.

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2369625]No. It's a new Bianca and as she said, it's her first week at Sharks after Mainhattan.

And I agree with TankTank123: Her service behaviour does not at all sound like the old Bianca, always hiding her ass with a towel.[/QUOTE]I m pretty sure if blond Bianka showed her ass, she would have been much busier. She was sexy for me, I would be happy to see more sexy girls like her, among average Sharks casting.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2369908]Since four weeks in Sharks and usually sitting together with Manuela and / or Ariella. 35 years old, black hair streaming down the shoulders, body size 34, small tits but with a nice shape, excellent firm body, some tattoo here and there (the result of a youthful folly). Black open-toe shoes. It's a woman with natural horniness on the room. You don't have nor to negotiate neither to ask as for her kissing and all other classical features we know are natural part of her menu. No stress, no rush, no need to complain. I meanwhile shared 5 rooms with her.[/QUOTE]I went with her last July. She always sits to the right of the bar with Manuela. Is very natural girl. 2 very good sessions.

Do you know how long he's going to be in the club?

[QUOTE=MrStev;2370059]Iona She always sits to the right of the bar with Manuela. Do you know how long he's going to be in the club?[/QUOTE]As far as I know Sharks is her first important spot. From this point of view she's rather a newbie. Maybe that's the reason why her attitude is very positive and Iona always does a marvellous job. But punters (in particular the one-time visitors) are usually looking for beautiful [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] even though they might experience later on the room a disappointing service.

Beautiful woman types for me and then I play to make them will to please me. Orgasmus help to receive back and they don t look at us in same way after. My eyes choose girls, not what I read.

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2370122] are usually looking for beautiful..[/QUOTE]Sorry can't see any connection between beautiful and disappointing service. And its easier to bring a you beautiful girl to top class service than change an ugly MILF into a beauty. LOL.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2370263]Sorry can't see any connection between beautiful and disappointing service. And its easier to bring a you beautiful girl to top class service than change an ugly MILF into a beauty. LOL.[/QUOTE]Many think beautiful girls won't be good for them, just problem of self confidence, but I know GND or ugly can't be good for me because I don't want they touch me. I remember at LR when I went only for good surprise who started late, some GND came to rub on me, everybody was surprised about my reaction but I just did hate this. Pretty and chic are my best. Have to deserve from them.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2370263]Sorry can't see any connection between beautiful and disappointing service. And its easier to bring a you beautiful girl to top class service than change an ugly MILF into a beauty. LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Good looking girls may be good service providers and not so good lookers could well be bad service providers. Well, the latter is not a common first hand experience because if a girl is not good looking in my eyes I'm not likely to take her to the room anyway. But interaction outside the room is a reasonable proxy into how she may behave inside the room.

The worst outside-the-room interactions tend to be with the Asian hunters. They are good looking enough that I try to at least talk to them, and some of them exhibit obviously bad attitude. Butt ugly girls are usually ignored anyway, so interactions are sparse even outside the room.

Punters must remember that what one bloke considers beautiful another may regard as ugly and vice versa.

Came up to Germany after a somewhat underwhelming experience at Globe in Switzerland. And wow was I happy to be at Sharks.

Day One:

Arrived on a Friday at 4 pm. Took the train from Frankfurt to Darmstadt and walked to Sharks to get in some exercise. Darmstadt is an interesting industrial town with some fascinating history I wasn't previously aware of. Very safe to walk at all hours. My last visit was in 2016 - so I was very happy to see the familiar Sharks flags waving in the air as I arrived. Paid 65 Euros, was given a robe and towel, showered and hit the floor. Immediately was pleased by the level of talent walking by and resisted the urge to take on right away so that I could settle in. They were just starting to serve dinner and I was actually pretty impressed with the food. Perhaps I was expecting really bad options but the buffet was a bit above average, dare I say. Took a plate outside and enjoyed the sunny German September weather. And was really impressed with the facilities. Ample outdoor seating, nice sauna, pools, hot tubs, and places to take your chica everywhere (both inside and out).

After eating and enjoying complimentary espresso and sparkling water (included in your entry fee) - it was time to get to business. I saw two beautiful dark-haired Romanians. One tall, thin with a pretty model face, the other more busty with equally gorgeous face. I took them both and was very happy with the decision. 50 Euros each for 30 minutes. Received a dual BBBJ which was a fantasy for a while. And was thinking heaven must be like this. Then each took turn with covered action and I didn't last long as it was first session there. Very pleasant and classy ladies.

Showered up and had another drink, then see another stunner from Maldova. And wow. Dare I say she's a 10. Perfect, smooth skin. Pretty face, natural curves. Perfection. She upsells a bit and I was persuaded. She sold me on oil nuru body slides and deep throat CIM. And I obliged. 100 euros for 30 minutes with all the trimmings. One of the best sessions of my life.

Enjoyed the facilities a bit more. Then decided to head back to Frankfurt to catch the shuttle to Oase (check out my review in Oase section). Yes. I was geared up for a full day / night LOL.

Day 2:

Returned to Sharks again on Saturday at around 6 pm for back to back action. And the lineup was essentially identical. About 100 women. Out of that 100 - about 10 5's or below, 50-60 6's & 7's, 10-15 8's, about 5-8 9's, and just a few 10's.

First session I take an understated beauty from Ghana. Was pleased to see a bit more diversity at Sharks from what I remember in 2016. I like women of all shades (though Colombian and Brazilian are my favorite). She was eager to please for 50 euros (30 minutes) - and we sessioned outside in one of the pool cabanas.

Showered up, had dinner, and noticed a new Romanian beauty enter the club. 19. Absolutely perfect natural body and pretty face. Easily a 9, maybe even a 10.50 Euros for 30 minutes, BBBJ and had such a gorgeous body that I didn't last long. Surprisingly as it was my 6th session in two days LOL.

It was now about 11 pm and I was spent from two days of full action. But couldn't resist one last session with another Romanian beauty before heading back to sex prison. Another 50 euro /30 min session. And I was spent. Took the last train back to Frankfurt from Darmstadt (at 1 am) and slept for a few hours before traveling home.

Sharks was splendid. No place like it in terms of incredible value and an ample lineup to suit everyone's taste. I do wish there was a bit more diversity (club is primarily Romanians) - but they were beautiful and I certainly can't complain. Was well worth the trip.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2370386]I agree with you. Good looking girls may be good service providers and not so good lookers could well be bad service providers. Well, the latter is not a common first hand experience because if a girl is not good looking in my eyes I'm not likely to take her to the room anyway. But interaction outside the room is a reasonable proxy into how she may behave inside the room.

The worst outside-the-room interactions tend to be with the Asian hunters. They are good looking enough that I try to at least talk to them, and some of them exhibit obviously bad attitude. Butt ugly girls are usually ignored anyway, so interactions are sparse even outside the room.[/QUOTE]I don't care at all about service, only beauty is important, why should I pay for a good service when this is free outside the clubs forme at least.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2370866]Came up to Germany after a somewhat underwhelming experience at Globe in Switzerland. And wow was I happy to be at Sharks.

Day One:

Arrived on a Friday at 4 pm. Took the train from Frankfurt to Darmstadt and walked to Sharks to get in some exercise. Darmstadt is an interesting industrial town with some fascinating history I wasn't previously aware of. Very safe to walk at all hours. My last visit was in 2016 - so I was very happy to see the familiar Sharks flags waving in the air as I arrived. Paid 65 Euros, was given a robe and towel, showered and hit the floor. Immediately was pleased by the level of talent walking by and resisted the urge to take on right away so that I could settle in. They were just starting to serve dinner and I was actually pretty impressed with the food. Perhaps I was expecting really bad options but the buffet was a bit above average, dare I say. Took a plate outside and enjoyed the sunny German September weather. And was really impressed with the facilities. Ample outdoor seating, nice sauna, pools, hot tubs, and places to take your chica everywhere (both inside and out).

After eating and enjoying complimentary espresso and sparkling water (included in your entry fee) - it was time to get to business. I saw two beautiful dark-haired Romanians. One tall, thin with a pretty model face, the other more busty with equally gorgeous face. I took them both and was very happy with the decision. 50 Euros each for 30 minutes. Received a dual BBBJ which was a fantasy for a while. And was thinking heaven must be like this. Then each took turn with covered action and I didn't last long as it was first session there. Very pleasant and classy ladies.

Showered up and had another drink, then see another stunner from Maldova. And wow. Dare I say she's a 10. Perfect, smooth skin. Pretty face, natural curves. Perfection. She upsells a bit and I was persuaded. She sold me on oil nuru body slides and deep throat CIM. And I obliged. 100 euros for 30 minutes with all the trimmings. One of the best sessions of my life..[/QUOTE]Thanks for an excellent report. I am looking forward to visiting next weekend. I'm glad to see you could still get 50 euro sessions with BBBJ included.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2370976]I don't care at all about service, only beauty is important, why should I pay for a good service when this is free outside the clubs forme at least.[/QUOTE]Beauty is like a good LSAT score. Beauty gets the girl into the room, just like a good LSAT score gets the applicant into a law school. But beauty does not keep the girl in the room for a long time, nor does it fetch her repeat sessions if her service totally sucks. Just as a good LSAT score does not guarantee that a guy becomes a good lawyer. Yes, having good looks is better than having bad looks but if the girl has no fucking clue how to provide good service, or worse yet has a lousy attitude that practically screams "you are just lucky to be able to touch me, Loser! Well soon she will sitting down in a corner for long stretches wondering how the GND looks girl on the next couch is making more money than she is. We all know too many examples from our past experiences in the clubs.

[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2371124]Beauty is like a good LSAT score. Beauty gets the girl into the room, just like a good LSAT score gets the applicant into a law school. But beauty does not keep the girl in the room for a long time, nor does it fetch her repeat sessions if her service totally sucks. Just as a good LSAT score does not guarantee that a guy becomes a good lawyer. Yes, having good looks is better than having bad looks but if the girl has no fucking clue how to provide good service, or worse yet has a lousy attitude that practically screams "you are just lucky to be able to touch me, Loser! Well soon she will sitting down in a corner for long stretches wondering how the GND looks girl on the next couch is making more money than she is. We all know too many examples from our past experiences in the clubs.[/QUOTE]Sharks is really a good club for me, with management who really made the most improvements with veranda, garden, new rooms. No other club can compete for this. Staff is also tolerant when I write my disappointment about casting. Bad point is unfortunately the most important: casting level, again disappointing before IAA started. When I find a rare attractive beauty for me, then I will work my best to give her will to please me back and usually it works for me, I m only interested by beauties and I know most of time, we get from what we are and what our behavior deserve. I just miss to find a beauty at Sharks, like there were before. Only 1 would be even enough.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2371124]Beauty is like a good LSAT score. Beauty gets the girl into the room, just like a good LSAT score gets the applicant into a law school. But beauty does not keep the girl in the room for a long time, nor does it fetch her repeat sessions if her service totally sucks. Just as a good LSAT score does not guarantee that a guy becomes a good lawyer. Yes, having good looks is better than having bad looks but if the girl has no fucking clue how to provide good service, or worse yet has a lousy attitude that practically screams "you are just lucky to be able to touch me, Loser! Well soon she will sitting down in a corner for long stretches wondering how the GND looks girl on the next couch is making more money than she is. We all know too many examples from our past experiences in the clubs.[/QUOTE]I don't pay to fuck average looking girls doing it is free outside the clubs.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2371378]I don't pay to fuck average looking girls doing it is free outside the clubs.[/QUOTE]It would be helpful to have specific examples.

Since we are in Sharks thread. Name 5 girls that worked in Sharks club in the last 2 years that are beautiful enough for you to pay for sex, and also please name 5 girls that are ordinary looking and who you are able to fuck for free outside the club.

Even 3 examples each way would suffice.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2371199]One can fictionalize millions trip reports without mentioning girls' names. Nothing could be verified. Of course, those reports are non-informative too. It really waste our time to read them.
[/QUOTE]Reading and writing in the ISG forum is "the favorite waste of time" for many.

I guess there are several good reasons why we publish reports (or good sounding fictional stories) here using nick names instead of our real names.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2371460]It would be helpful to have specific examples.

Since we are in Sharks thread. Name 5 girls that worked in Sharks club in the last 2 years that are beautiful enough for you to pay for sex, and also please name 5 girls that are ordinary looking and who you are able to fuck for free outside the club.

Even 3 examples each way would suffice.[/QUOTE]Please prove that you are a human being and not a bot. Three examples would suffice.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2371199]One can fictionalize millions trip reports without mentioning girls' names. Nothing could be verified. Of course, those reports are non-informative too. It really waste our time to read them. As a famous ISG member once mentioned reading these kind of reports like eating spoiled eggs.

No offense.[/QUOTE]If you had guys, Americans, Asians of course, some Germans who are jealous, and of course French, who told bullshit to your girls: Madi, Dani, Megan, Kate, Sandi, Madeleine, Daniela, then maybe you would not name anymore your good girls, but on the other hand, from their reaction, I know which one worth my money.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2371060]Thanks for an excellent report. I am looking forward to visiting next weekend. I'm glad to see you could still get 50 euro sessions with BBBJ included.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that I received a proper half hour (DFK, BBBJ, DATY) at the old school price of 50/ half. And received same with CIM for 100. Which is same price I was charged st my first FKK World 10 years ago.

You must survive the onslaught and upsell of some girls. But it surely exists. I was skeptical and proven wrong!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2371535]Please prove that you are a human being and not a bot. Three examples would suffice.[/QUOTE]I can prove that I am at least not a senior bot with nearly a thousand imprints. Will that suffice? LOL.

However, Mr Ortos who is very well respected has stated that number of imprints doesnot count for much in today's bot order of supremacy haha.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2371573]I can prove that I am at least not a senior bot with nearly a thousand imprints[/QUOTE]Ah, you are worried that NicktheG is a bot and not a real person? Rest assured, I have seen him many times, and can confirm he is a real person with only one identity, unlike a bot or its human equivalent :)

[QUOTE=Optimist;2371733]Ah, you are worried that NicktheG is a bot and not a real person? Rest assured, I have seen him many times, and can confirm he is a real person with only one identity, unlike a bot or its human equivalent.[/QUOTE]I confirm he is real and Sharks regular, when I m not anymore because I miss beauties at Sharks, this among fakers on this forum. Of course, wish for new beauties coming to Sharks where I can eat quite good and good apple juice, when new beauties at Oase at the moment. A bit different business between both clubs.

Talking of real people, Evita is back, although judging by the lack of custom she may as well be her ghost. But I understand that some euros are on their way in a gentleman's wallet on the very near future to ensure she stays a physical presence.

I will continue to stay clear of her, as I cannot measure up to her financial standards :( I have my sights on another girl but have yet to catch her

I have been reading and posting on ISG for 7 years. During that time I have been able to identify posters who are genuine and those who are about BS. I judge a post by the poster who posts it and a post in which girls' names are not stated is no problem for me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2371865]I have been reading and posting on ISG for 7 years. During that time I have been able to identify posters who are genuine and those who are about BS. I judge a post by the poster who posts it and a post in which girls' names are not stated is no problem for me.[/QUOTE]I started on this forum on end of 2014, because I read something I found unfair about my World regular, or maybe I was lucky with her, but even we had a bad end, I hate to have upset relation with girls I liked so much, I drove so much for her, sometimes starting working at 6 am, leaving Paris at 4.30 pm, speeding cleaning autobahn in January, 650 kms to arrive at World at 10 pm, having 21 hour rooms with her, second from 2.30 to 3.30 am, sometimes I felt asleep while she was sucking me, so she asked: you don't like? Leaving at 4 am to arrive at work at 10 am. I had to stay standing up whole day, not to fall asleep. Good point is I rest while I m driving. Even she chose bad rooms on our 2 last times and I refused once, she was not anymore with same charm and chic, but she was always very honest about time and money with me. My reason to start, and I asked her before naming her on this forum. But with all bullshiting jealous guys, I learned not to name anymore my girls. At small Living Room, even not naming, some needed to bullshit my girls, some guys are so frustrated in FKK land, when you usually get from what you are and deserve.

Yep great idea no names of girls anymore. I like that but I'll start than the next innovation. I write in the German FKK Lounge thread and don't even mention the name of the FKK club.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2371929]Yep great idea no names of girls anymore. I like that but I'll start than the next innovation. I write in the German FKK Lounge thread and don't even mention the name of the FKK club.[/QUOTE]I remember when Dani was told about me at so small Atlanta, fortunately for me, she was clever enough or trust me enough. Raïssa at Atlanta, ex World, asked me not to tell about her.

Hi,

Which major clubs in Frankfurt has the most MILFs? Sharks, the world, etc.

[QUOTE=Bruhbruh;2372540]Hi,

Which major clubs in Frankfurt has the most MILFs? Sharks, the world, etc.[/QUOTE]A granny over 60 yo at Sharks, best BJ all over the world, not in Polheim.

Please post Name of the girls. Especially the 19 year old Romanian.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2370866]Came up to Germany after a somewhat underwhelming experience at Globe in Switzerland. And wow was I happy to be at Sharks.

Day One:

Arrived on a Friday at 4 pm. Took the train from Frankfurt to Darmstadt and walked to Sharks to get in some exercise. Darmstadt is an interesting industrial town with some fascinating history I wasn't previously aware of. Very safe to walk at all hours. My last visit was in 2016 - so I was very happy to see the familiar Sharks flags waving in the air as I arrived. Paid 65 Euros, was given a robe and towel, showered and hit the floor. Immediately was pleased by the level of talent walking by and resisted the urge to take on right away so that I could settle in. They were just starting to serve dinner and I was actually pretty impressed with the food. Perhaps I was expecting really bad options but the buffet was a bit above average, dare I say. Took a plate outside and enjoyed the sunny German September weather. And was really impressed with the facilities. Ample outdoor seating, nice sauna, pools, hot tubs, and places to take your chica everywhere (both inside and out).

After eating and enjoying complimentary espresso and sparkling water (included in your entry fee) - it was time to get to business. I saw two beautiful dark-haired Romanians. One tall, thin with a pretty model face, the other more busty with equally gorgeous face. I took them both and was very happy with the decision. 50 Euros each for 30 minutes. Received a dual BBBJ which was a fantasy for a while. And was thinking heaven must be like this. Then each took turn with covered action and I didn't last long as it was first session there. Very pleasant and classy ladies.

Showered up and had another drink, then see another stunner from Maldova. And wow. Dare I say she's a 10. Perfect, smooth skin. Pretty face, natural curves. Perfection. She upsells a bit and I was persuaded. She sold me on oil nuru body slides and deep throat CIM. And I obliged. 100 euros for 30 minutes with all the trimmings. One of the best sessions of my life.

Enjoyed the facilities a bit more. Then decided to head back to Frankfurt to catch the shuttle to Oase (check out my review in Oase section). Yes. I was geared up for a full day / night LOL.

Day 2:

Returned to Sharks again on Saturday at around 6 pm for back to back action. And the lineup was essentially identical. About 100 women. Out of that 100 - about 10 5's or below, 50-60 6's & 7's, 10-15 8's, about 5-8 9's, and just a few 10's.

First session I take an understated beauty from Ghana. Was pleased to see a bit more diversity at Sharks from what I remember in 2016. I like women of all shades (though Colombian and Brazilian are my favorite). She was eager to please for 50 euros (30 minutes) - and we sessioned outside in one of the pool cabanas.

Showered up, had dinner, and noticed a new Romanian beauty enter the club. 19. Absolutely perfect natural body and pretty face. Easily a 9, maybe even a 10.50 Euros for 30 minutes, BBBJ and had such a gorgeous body that I didn't last long. Surprisingly as it was my 6th session in two days LOL.

It was now about 11 pm and I was spent from two days of full action. But couldn't resist one last session with another Romanian beauty before heading back to sex prison. Another 50 euro /30 min session. And I was spent. Took the last train back to Frankfurt from Darmstadt (at 1 am) and slept for a few hours before traveling home.

Sharks was splendid. No place like it in terms of incredible value and an ample lineup to suit everyone's taste. I do wish there was a bit more diversity (club is primarily Romanians) - but they were beautiful and I certainly can't complain. Was well worth the trip.[/QUOTE]

It is impossible.

[QUOTE=CC1024;2372643]Please post Name of the girls. Especially the 19 year old Romanian.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BarryManila;2369756]I heard she stopped working.[/QUOTE]Did you hear it from her colleagues? I heard some rumors that Dalma is resting in Romania and may come back in October.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2372640]A granny over 60 yo at Sharks, best BJ all over the world, not in Polheim.[/QUOTE]When I was in my twenties and thirties I preferred blow jobs to sex, I might have sampled a 60 yo BJ queen then.

Visited Sharks around 4 PM on a Friday and left around 8 PM. Couple observations; the new bar is finished so no ongoing construction. Not sure what I expected but the new bar is OK, but so was the old bar. Not sure what was improved? Summer hot temperatures seem to be gone; all rooms were comfortable. Ratio of girls to guys was great until around 7:30 when it started getting crowded.

Melody: thin, Romanian long haired brunette with large and natural chest. My favorite body type. She sits at the bar and the right side close to the door entrance. I had never noticed her before; nice face as well; all the right optics. Agreed to 1 hour 100 euros; with kissing. She seemed very shy and reserved outside the room, this continued in the room as well. No significant complaints in the room, she did all the standard stuff; multiple positions, kissing, BBBJ, but. There was any passion or excitement. She looks the part but would not repeat.

Atta: Blonde Romanian, large man made chest, wears glasses, scar on her back shoulder; very passionate and does an erotic massage thing, kisses, BBBJ, and pushes Greek pretty hard. I have repeated with Atta probably 5 times. She is spunky and fun.

Emily: tall Moldavian blonde, large man made chest but felt great. She sits over by the fish tank on the couch facing the stairs. I loved the optics and the pre-room conversation; I wanted more of a GFE which she agreed to so I paid more than I normally do at 150 for the hour. My negotiating skills were off. In the room I had a great time, she performed perfectly and provided the GFE I was looking for; erotic massage, BBBJ, passionate kissing, multiple positions and came twice from dining at the why. I plan on repeating next week.

Hope this report with NAMES included helps someone else! Happy hunting.

Thanks! Yes, putting name down like I do should help with fellow mongers.

CC1 K.

[QUOTE=NightRider16;2373028]Visited Sharks around 4 PM on a Friday and left around 8 PM. Couple observations; the new bar is finished so no ongoing construction. Not sure what I expected but the new bar is OK, but so was the old bar. Not sure what was improved? Summer hot temperatures seem to be gone; all rooms were comfortable. Ratio of girls to guys was great until around 7:30 when it started getting crowded.

Melody: thin, Romanian long haired brunette with large and natural chest. My favorite body type. She sits at the bar and the right side close to the door entrance. I had never noticed her before; nice face as well; all the right optics. Agreed to 1 hour 100 euros; with kissing. She seemed very shy and reserved outside the room, this continued in the room as well. No significant complaints in the room, she did all the standard stuff; multiple positions, kissing, BBBJ, but. There was any passion or excitement. She looks the part but would not repeat.

Atta: Blonde Romanian, large man made chest, wears glasses, scar on her back shoulder; very passionate and does an erotic massage thing, kisses, BBBJ, and pushes Greek pretty hard. I have repeated with Atta probably 5 times. She is spunky and fun.

Emily: tall Moldavian blonde, large man made chest but felt great. She sits over by the fish tank on the couch facing the stairs. I loved the optics and the pre-room conversation; I wanted more of a GFE which she agreed to so I paid more than I normally do at 150 for the hour. My negotiating skills were off. In the room I had a great time, she performed perfectly and provided the GFE I was looking for; erotic massage, BBBJ, passionate kissing, multiple positions and came twice from dining at the why. I plan on repeating next week.

Hope this report with NAMES included helps someone else! Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CC1024;2373203]Thanks! Yes, putting name down like I do should help with fellow mongers.

CC1 K.[/QUOTE]Just my personal opinion and I in no way intend to tell others what to do / how to post, but:

I always found these long posts about girls and their performance in the room, but the poster purposely leaves the name (s) out, as being extremely braggadocio, self-centered and of virtually zero help to the reader. I get that some guys might not want to post the girl's name for various reasons, some legit. But if you are going to go on and on about how great a certain girl is, etc. then NOT include the name, I mean: What's the point? Well, personally, if it was me: I just wouldn't post about it to begin with. But that's just me. I can't shove that down anybody else's throat.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373227]Just my personal opinion and I in no way intend to tell others what to do / how to post, but:

I always found these long posts about girls and their performance in the room, but the poster purposely leaves the name (s) out, as being extremely braggadocio, self-centered and of virtually zero help to the reader. I get that some guys might not want to post the girl's name for various reasons, some legit. But if you are going to go on and on about how great a certain girl is, etc. then NOT include the name, I mean: What's the point? Well, personally, if it was me: I just wouldn't post about it to begin with. But that's just me. I can't shove that down anybody else's throat.[/QUOTE]There are genuinely people like me who are good with faces and bad with names. I also drink a lot and forget the names. This is not deliberate.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2373234]There are genuinely people like me who are good with faces and bad with names. I also drink a lot and forget the names. This is not deliberate.[/QUOTE]Everybody, every one of us, can forget a name here and there. That's not what I was posting about. I was posting about guys who go on and on about every detail of girls' performance, how great they are, blah, blah, but deliberately leave out the name. That's different from what you are talking about. And can't even you recall even one or two names out of the dozens of zimmer sessions you've had? You can't remember a single one?

Anyway, I wasn't pointing a finger at you or anybody in particular, just making a general statement and expressing my (perhaps warped?) opinion.

You mention drinking a lot, I assume you mean at the clubs before / in between sessions. To each their own, how does that work out for you, I am curious? I always discouraged myself from consuming alcohol at the clubs, because A) It works against my biological prowess in achieving / maintaining good performance condition during sex sessions; B) it doesn't win great points with the girls, esp. If you want to kiss them; C) it can be bloody expensive; and D) I drive to / from clubs. But this is in no way meant as a lecture or criticism of you or anybody else who does their thing the way they like. It's personal choice and style. I respect each person to decide for themselves what works best for them.

I have a 4 hour layover in Frankfurt tomorrow and wondering if I have time for a quick visit to Sharks? I figured it will take me 20 minutes to leave the airport, 20 minutes in a taxi, 1 hour at the club and 20'minutes back to the airport. If security takes 20-30 minutes, it seems possible. Anyone have experience trying this?

You made some great points on kissing and alcohol. Yet I don't really see the connection between both. Unless spmeone is totally drunk or has bad mouth breath.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373242]Everybody, every one of us, can forget a name here and there. That's not what I was posting about. I was posting about guys who go on and on about every detail of girls' performance, how great they are, blah, blah, but deliberately leave out the name. That's different from what you are talking about. And can't even you recall even one or two names out of the dozens of zimmer sessions you've had? You can't remember a single one?

Anyway, I wasn't pointing a finger at you or anybody in particular, just making a general statement and expressing my (perhaps warped?) opinion.

You mention drinking a lot, I assume you mean at the clubs before / in between sessions. To each their own, how does that work out for you, I am curious? I always discouraged myself from consuming alcohol at the clubs, because A) It works against my biological prowess in achieving / maintaining good performance condition during sex sessions; B) it doesn't win great points with the girls, esp. If you want to kiss them; C) it can be bloody expensive; and D) I drive to / from clubs. But this is in no way meant as a lecture or criticism of you or anybody else who does their thing the way they like. It's personal choice and style. I respect each person to decide for themselves what works best for them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yelofin99;2373279]I have a 4 hour layover in Frankfurt tomorrow and wondering if I have time for a quick visit to Sharks? I figured it will take me 20 minutes to leave the airport, 20 minutes in a taxi, 1 hour at the club and 20'minutes back to the airport. If security takes 20-30 minutes, it seems possible. Anyone have experience trying this?[/QUOTE]You cut it too short! I will not do that, what if you run into traffic jam or security delay at airport. It only take one to have your connection missed.

[QUOTE=Yelofin99;2373279]I have a 4 hour layover in Frankfurt tomorrow and wondering if I have time for a quick visit to Sharks? I figured it will take me 20 minutes to leave the airport, 20 minutes in a taxi, 1 hour at the club and 20'minutes back to the airport. If security takes 20-30 minutes, it seems possible. Anyone have experience trying this?[/QUOTE]It is possible but risky. If anything goes wrong with transportation, you risk to miss the flight. Highly depends on weekday and hours. But most likely you can make it.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373242]I always discouraged myself from consuming alcohol at the clubs, because A) It works against my biological prowess in achieving / maintaining good performance condition during sex sessions; B) it doesn't win great points with the girls, esp. If you want to kiss them; C) it can be bloody expensive; and D) I drive to / from clubs. But this is in no way meant as a lecture or criticism of you or anybody else who does their thing the way they like. It's personal choice and style. I respect each person to decide for themselves what works best for them.[/QUOTE]A) You should consume A lot to have such an effect.

B) Use some tic-tac or chewing gum if you think you have a problem with your breathe.

C) In Sharks alcohol is reasonably priced. No real need to check drinks menu before ordering.

D) Taxi. No problem at all. Even taxi to Frankfurt if not expensive.

For me it entirely depends on the mood. Sometimes I prefer to be sober, sometimes I prefer to drink, sometimes I drink a lot. Both ways are OK. My funniest night at Sharks was when I was really really drunk. Like hell. I would probably not repeat, for safety reasons, but it was a great night with a lot of crazy rooms. Did not even ask for names that time.

Traffic jams are unlikely on sundays. But I agree: security lines back into the airport could be a risk. Even if you are business class and can have priority security check-in.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2373335]You cut it too short! I will not do that, what if you run into traffic jam or security delay at airport. It only take one to have your connection missed.[/QUOTE]

I have done similar stunts. But they stress me more out than they are enjoyable. If I had to guess you should have a 98% chance of staying safely 1 HR at the club. But I believe you will regret it more than enjoy-- If you still want to do it. I hope, I am wrong.

[QUOTE=Yelofin99;2373279]I have a 4 hour layover in Frankfurt tomorrow and wondering if I have time for a quick visit to Sharks? I figured it will take me 20 minutes to leave the airport, 20 minutes in a taxi, 1 hour at the club and 20'minutes back to the airport. If security takes 20-30 minutes, it seems possible. Anyone have experience trying this?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2373362]A) You should consume A lot to have such an effect.

B) Use some tic-tac or chewing gum if you think you have a problem with your breathe.

C) In Sharks alcohol is reasonably priced. No real need to check drinks menu before ordering.

D) Taxi. No problem at all. Even taxi to Frankfurt if not expensive.

For me it entirely depends on the mood. Sometimes I prefer to be sober, sometimes I prefer to drink, sometimes I drink a lot. Both ways are OK. My funniest night at Sharks was when I was really really drunk. Like hell. I would probably not repeat, for safety reasons, but it was a great night with a lot of crazy rooms. Did not even ask for names that time.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking you are young. When I was in my twenties and thirties I had a great time drinking and mongering, drinking was actually an integral part of the fun. I would go partying and if I did not pick up a chick (which was quite often) I would end up mongering in an inebriated state. I really enjoyed those times. Fast forward to over 30 years later I can monger with a few drinks in me but have not gotten p i s s drunk in many years and doubt I would seek a bed mate in that state.

Since everyone has been complaining about Palace lately, I decided to skip Palace and go to Sharks, for the first time, ever.

In case someone wants to know: Taxi from airport to Sharks is 55-60 euros (each way, unless you don't want to return) in about 22 minutes. With entry fee, about 175 euro to get in.

It was really busy around 10 pm when I got there.

Seemed to be an even ratio of boys to girls.

Quality? That is such a subjective topic but I'll say that there were 3 or 4 girls that were (in looks) worth paying over $200 for.

I did a lot of rounds and the ladies did their rounds but no one really caught my fancy.

This can easily happens when a few dozen naked chics are all around you.

There was one Romanian type sitting at the bar just as you enter. Probably the best looking one there, but she was not smiling or making long enough eye contact. She was looking to be pursued by everyone and I was not in that mood. I smelled a rat in that attitude and kept away.

Food was as good/bad as can be expected but it was definitely edible.

Just around midnight, it was becoming a sausage fest and as I was getting bored. Made a deal with Ayla, from Russia (likely from one of the Stans).
GND type. No tattoos.

Agreed to 1 hour and CIM and reluctantly but agreed to anal, Euro 200. Fine, its my only stopover in FRA this year.

Face cute, body average, service all delivered but nothing to write home about.

I don't see much charm in FKKs setup. Not worth traveling to Germany for specifically for this.

Surely, anyone can get lucky at times, but those looking for great service from a model for 50 euro will be sorely disappointed.

Be.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373242]Everybody, every one of us, can forget a name here and there. That's not what I was posting about. I was posting about guys who go on and on about every detail of girls' performance, how great they are, blah, blah, but deliberately leave out the name. That's different from what you are talking about. And can't even you recall even one or two names out of the dozens of zimmer sessions you've had? You can't remember a single one?

Anyway, I wasn't pointing a finger at you or anybody in particular, just making a general statement and expressing my (perhaps warped?) opinion.

You mention drinking a lot, I assume you mean at the clubs before / in between sessions. To each their own, how does that work out for you, I am curious? I always discouraged myself from consuming alcohol at the clubs, because A) It works against my biological prowess in achieving / maintaining good performance condition during sex sessions; B) it doesn't win great points with the girls, esp. If you want to kiss them; C) it can be bloody expensive; and D) I drive to / from clubs. But this is in no way meant as a lecture or criticism of you or anybody else who does their thing the way they like. It's personal choice and style. I respect each person to decide for themselves what works best for them.[/QUOTE]Hi,

This is just to satisfy your curiosity. I do drink quite a bit and can drink an awful lot, this is not by design but because I have an addictive personality, I love both to drink and high volume sex.

What I drink does not really adversely affect my breath, and I am not prone to bad breath otherwise and have not gotten complaints about that or refusals to kiss.

I can always get it up no matter how much I drink, unlike some others but it does make it harder to finish and you do feel a bit less. The main casualty of my drinking is I usually forget details e if I drink a lot even if I am not so drunk.

I do aim to drink a bit less sometimes, but usually do not succeed and never drive to clubs but instead use public transport and taxis.

I don't have to travel as far to monger like some of you so it does not require as much meticulous planning.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2373295]You made some great points on kissing and alcohol. Yet I don't really see the connection between both. Unless spmeone is totally drunk or has bad mouth breath.[/QUOTE]Beer and alcohol breathe don't give the best taste for girls to kiss You, same than smoker. Even with bonbon or chewing gum, but after a while, breathe is coming over.

[QUOTE=Bizzie;2373436]Since everyone has been complaining about Palace lately, I decided to skip Palace and go to Sharks, for the first time, ever.

In case someone wants to know: Taxi from airport to Sharks is 55-60 euros (each way, unless you don't want to return) in about 22 minutes. With entry fee, about 175 euro to get in.

It was really busy around 10 pm when I got there.

Seemed to be an even ratio of boys to girls.

Quality? That is such a subjective topic but I'll say that there were 3 or 4 girls that were (in looks) worth paying over $200 for.

I did a lot of rounds and the ladies did their rounds but no one really caught my fancy.

This can easily happens when a few dozen naked chics are all around you.

There was one Romanian type sitting at the bar just as you enter. Probably the best looking one there, but she was not smiling or making long enough eye contact. She was looking to be pursued by everyone and I was not in that mood. I smelled a rat in that attitude and kept away..[/QUOTE]Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2373646]Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want...........[/QUOTE]I will not proclaim that 50 will get you all you want but it will get me all I want.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2373646]Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?[/QUOTE]This seems to be the direction things are going. You can still get a 50 Euro session/30 min. About a 1/3 of mine were last year but many of the girls that I wanted to see were insisting on 100 E/30 min.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2373724]I will not proclaim that 50 will get you all you want but it will get me all I want.[/QUOTE]You must have very high standards.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2373724]I will not proclaim that 50 will get you all you want but it will get me all I want.[/QUOTE]What you want is what matters. Nicely said.

I went there after the Autoshow visit around 4 PM. It was busy but not over crowded like reports from Palace.

I stayed at Hotel Pallas next to Rewe. Nice clean place for $70.

At Sharks the first one was Estrella (star) 100 E for one hour including BBBJ, DATY, 69, fingers etc (this is the list she spouted off). She is good looking and I was happy with her performance.

I did 4 other sessions. Three of them were 50 E for 30 min. Two of those three were BBBJ. I also did my last one with the tall gorgeous blonde (most veterans here know her) Melissa or Milana? For 100 E for 30 minutes. Surprisingly, her service was good given that she was busy that day.

Overall, I found decent options. I left happy. I no longer do destination trips just for FKK but this is totally worth it as a stop over.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2373755]This seems to be the direction things are going. You can still get a 50 Euro session/30 min. About a 1/3 of mine were last year but many of the girls that I wanted to see were insisting on 100 E/30 min.[/QUOTE]I had good luck to get 50/30 from a second tier girl (who was awesome BTW) but one real hottie was sticking to her 100/30 ask. But when I said no, she threw in CIM at the 100/30 price. Which is honestly old school pricing. So maybe if a girl won't move off 100 see if she will include CIM. For me it was a win win for both.

P.S. I know you know this HS but maybe for others wrestling with the issue.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2373646]Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?[/QUOTE]I failed to mention that at least on this Saturday, the room was stinky smelly.

And don't waste your money on the massage by the female masseuse. Too weak. Waste of time Euro 30.

[QUOTE=GunningPeter;2373646]Be ready for some veterans here to proudly proclaim that 50 will get you all you want and that we don't know any better or that we are all "newbies". You just confirmed what I experienced last night and other recent visits: most if not all of the good looking ladies, such as Melissa or Evie or several others whose names I have forgotten, are banking on 100 per half hour if you want BBBJ and DFK. Never mind CIM or Anal, which will cost more. I've been going since 8 years or so to Sharks. Changed climate. Maybe better to go to Austria?[/QUOTE]Very difficult for my eyes to find pretty girls in FKK land, but sometimes I succeed. Really difficult at Sharks since Megan turned to blond for Asian business on end of 2016, even found Florentina, Madi2 and, long black hair with blue eyes, with charm Tamara, a very rare top class in FKK land. Among the very few a bit pretty now, I confirm Melissa ask for 100 for 30 mn and 150 for 1 hour, reason why I didn't return to her on my last visit and preferred have no room, even she is higher level to chat than average and nice, but didn't have wow fire in bed nor high sensuality with her. Red hair to shoulders on my last visit. Another quite pretty, Angela just said she was not interested for only 30 mn, I answered I don t like to rush with a girl to dream, no upselling, 1 h30 in VIP room, with foreplay in jacuzzi, for 150, really nice, asking when I would come back, but not woman look enough for me and her arching back while doggy, pain in small pussy, made me feel guilty about her. Too average casting for beauties for me at Sharks. Oase have more pretty faces, even disappointing on this end of IAA compare to Saturday 14. Sometimes, I m happy to find a beauty.

[QUOTE=AlexEurope;2373362]A) You should consume A lot to have such an effect.

B) Use some tic-tac or chewing gum if you think you have a problem with your breathe.

C) In Sharks alcohol is reasonably priced. No real need to check drinks menu before ordering.

D) Taxi. No problem at all. Even taxi to Frankfurt if not expensive.

[/QUOTE]I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer. ?

D) Taxis to central Frankfurt from Sharks one-way: at least 60-65 euros these days. (By the way, some guy recently posted paying that same rate to or from Frankfurt Airport, which is wrong. If it's 60 from Sharks to central FFM by taxi, it must be at least 20-25 euros less to / from Airport and Sharks, right?) Considering you can rent a car in most cases for 25-30 euros / day, going to / from clubs by taxi is very, very expensive indeed.

So, to be honest, Alex, I really don't know where you are coming from with your points. But thanks for the contribution, anyway.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373958]I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer..[/QUOTE]I come from my real life experience. No problem with erection when I drink, unless I drink real lot. Chewing gum helps if I think my breath is not good. 6 EUR for drink is not expensive for club (I have no idea if it's 6 or 8, anyway I never ever paid more than 70-80 EUR for drinks consumed at the exit in Sharks). 60 EUR for taxi to or from Frankfurt is not much.

My average cost of visit to Sharks is 500 to 1000 EUR per day. Sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. Do you still insist I should care if drink at the bar is 6 EUR or 7 EUR? LOL.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373958]I don't know what Planet you are living on, mate, but there are some pretty obvious discrepancies and points that cry out for clarifications in your list above:

A) Alcohol affects each person differently. But I believe in the universal principle that consuming alcohol will NOT be good for you erection activity. Period. Some people get drunk after one or two beers. And some guys have an allergic reaction to any alcoholic beverage.

B) Chewing gum and tic-tacs? Give me a break! Pathetic.

C) In Sharks drinks containing alcohol is not expensive? Oh, paying, (what is it?) 6 euros for a small glass of beer = not expensive? I wouldn't know too much about that because I simply don't drink alcohol in the clubs, but I a few years ago I did buy another male guest a beer because he did me a great favour and I seem to remember it was 6 euros. And if you want something stronger than a beer.[/QUOTE]Alcohol really does not affect my erections, in fact if anything it gives me prolonged endurance.

At the risk of exposing myself I almost exclusively drink red wine in clubs, which isn't bad for my breath unless it has gone bad.

Alcohol makes me forget things because I do drink an inordinate amount of red wine, I feel a bit less and last even longer.

I want to drink less when I visit these clubs, but it certainly does not affect my erections adversely, at least for me.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2373981]Alcohol really does not affect my erections, in fact if anything it gives me prolonged endurance.

At the risk of exposing myself I almost exclusively drink red wine in clubs, which isn't bad for my breath unless it has gone bad.

Alcohol makes me forget things because I do drink an inordinate amount of red wine, I feel a bit less and last even longer.

I want to drink less when I visit these clubs, but it certainly does not affect my erections adversely, at least for me.[/QUOTE]Dear Friend,

With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

As for it not having any bearing on your breath: Ah, no one of us (me, you or anybody else) is in the best position to assess the qualities and characteristics our own breath. It's something that OTHER PEOPLE can assess, not ourselves. The character of a guy's breath is something girls immediately pick up on, especially girls who might come close for an intimate conversation or kissing in the room or (in the "old days" at least) outside the room. That is my opinion, at least.

About the point that girls see guys spending tons of money on alcoholic drinks at the bar (wait: somebody said the drinks were not expensive! ha) and therefore assume they are good targets for corralling into the room because they'll spend for extras, etc.: I can't tell you how many times over the years visiting FKK clubs that so many girls have told me they absolutely hate it when they smell alcohol on guys breath, even if they are not kissing, they get close enough in various positions. So many girls have told me they steer a wide path away from such guys. So clearly we have a divergence of opinions on this subject. However: again, all the power to you.

But the original point made, now a page or two back, I suppose, was about guys who make long and detailed posts about girls' amazing performance in the room, they remember and post every detail, but then conveniently "forget" the names. Using the alcohol thing as an excuse is just that: a lame excuse. Either you get the point I was trying to make, or you don't. Enough said.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373990]Dear Friend,

With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

So many girls have told me they steer a wide path away from such guys. So clearly we have a divergence of opinions on this subject. However: again, all the power to you.

[/QUOTE]Interesting discussion. My two cents: Firstly, I love to have a few beers when I'm out mongering. Why is that? Well, it undoubtedly lowers inhibitions. I don't just mean what you do in the room. I mean your behaviour around the girls in the bar. I really don't like to be in the presence of drunken guys (or girls) so I don't get to that position myself either. But a couple of glasses of wine make for a lot more confidence. It is also very social. I particularly like buying the girl a drink and sitting to discuss possibilities whilst we are enjoying a glass together.

In so far as Delta Indigo indicates longer endurance. I get it. I've had it myself that I take longer to cum after three or four drinks. But I also very much agree with Ortos that the smell is not only bad but puts people off. I therefore take mints to every FKK I go to. I take them to every room, offer them deliberately. It is a statement of hygiene and smell being important. Which girls hugely appreciate. I will have some mints before and after eating and in between sessions. There is just no excuse for bad breath or hygiene and if you drink you do risk bad breath.

Do the girls shy away from a guy buying drinks? It is all about balance and moderation. The girls like a confident guy, but not cocky and being drunk. They like guys who will loosen their own minds about how much they are spending. And the inclination to spend more and think less about the cost is greater if you drink. They also like guys who buy them drinks!

As for impact on performance, it is undoubtedly the case that alcohol is more likely to dampen ability than enhance it. Even with viagra / Kamagra / Cialis in the blood, they then have a battle with the effects of the booze. But again, it is about moderation. During a long day and night at Sharks I might have x2 wines and x3 beers. I'm hardly rolling around on that in a 8 hour stint and I'll have eaten, slept, fucked etc in that time. I find a girl watches the clock just a bit less if she has had a wine or two.

So pluses and minuses. I don't like to drive to an FKK. I prefer to have some beers. But to be sensible about it, not overdo it, and to have thoughts for the impact on sessions and breath.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2374051]Interesting discussion. My two cents: Firstly, I love to have a few beers when I'm out mongering. Why is that? Well, it undoubtedly lowers inhibitions. I don't just mean what you do in the room. I mean your behaviour around the girls in the bar. I really don't like to be in the presence of drunken guys (or girls) so I don't get to that position myself either. But a couple of glasses of wine make for a lot more confidence. It is also very social. I particularly like buying the girl a drink and sitting to discuss possibilities whilst we are enjoying a glass together.

In so far as Delta Indigo indicates longer endurance. I get it. I've had it myself that I take longer to cum after three or four drinks. But I also very much agree with Ortos that the smell is not only bad but puts people off. I therefore take mints to every FKK I go to. I take them to every room, offer them deliberately. It is a statement of hygiene and smell being important. Which girls hugely appreciate. I will have some mints before and after eating and in between sessions. There is just no excuse for bad breath or hygiene and if you drink you do risk bad breath.

Do the girls shy away from a guy buying drinks? It is all about balance and moderation. The girls like a confident guy, but not cocky and being drunk. They like guys who will loosen their own minds about how much they are spending. And the inclination to spend more and think less about the cost is greater if you drink. They also like guys who buy them drinks!

As for impact on performance, it is undoubtedly the case that alcohol is more likely to dampen ability than enhance it. Even with viagra / Kamagra / Cialis in the blood, they then have a battle with the effects of the booze. But again, it is about moderation. During a long day and night at Sharks I might have x2 wines and x3 beers. I'm hardly rolling around on that in a 8 hour stint and I'll have eaten, slept, fucked etc in that time. I find a girl watches the clock just a bit less if she has had a wine or two.

So pluses and minuses. I don't like to drive to an FKK. I prefer to have some beers. But to be sensible about it, not overdo it, and to have thoughts for the impact on sessions and breath.[/QUOTE]Yeah I pretty much agree with this. I think with no Viagra too much alcohol can affect ability to get hard as you are older. But if you are taking Viagra getting hard is not an issue. The primary issue is making it harder to cum. This can be good for your first couple sessions, but at the end of back to back sessions or a long week alcohol can make it hard to cum inside even and hour session for me. So far no straight up fails but definitely causes me to have to fall back to a self finish (her masturbating or BLS) more often.

Nonetheless I truly enjoy my experience more as a full experience, including drinks as a part of it. So these side effects are just the cost of doing business! 😄.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2374051]They also like guys who buy them drinks![/QUOTE]I'm down with everything you said, including this part. I will never forget how the beautiful Melissa at Scandalos in Malaga gave me a BBBJ after she told me she absolutely, 100% would not do that. So we get to the room, and she proceeds to suck me raw! I asked her why she did it, and she said that she thought that I was a nice guy, and that she liked the fact that I bought her a drink. Women! I will never really fully understand them!

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2373813]I went there after the Autoshow visit around 4 PM. It was busy but not over crowded like reports from Palace.

I stayed at Hotel Pallas next to Rewe. Nice clean place for $70.

At Sharks the first one was Estrella (star) 100 E for one hour including BBBJ, DATY, 69, fingers etc (this is the list she spouted off). She is good looking and I was happy with her performance.

I did 4 other sessions. Three of them were 50 E for 30 min. Two of those three were BBBJ. I also did my last one with the tall gorgeous blonde (most veterans here know her) Melissa or Milana? For 100 E for 30 minutes. Surprisingly, her service was good given that she was busy that day.

Overall, I found decent options. I left happy. I no longer do destination trips just for FKK but this is totally worth it as a stop over.[/QUOTE]This was helpful. Will be there soon, and will try and follow your lead, but certainly don't have your endurance. WOW!

[QUOTE=Ortos;2373990]Dear Friend,

With all due respect: If you drink a lot of alcohol, wine or whatever, and it doesn't affect your performance characteristics in the room, then you are either in the 2% statistic (no, I did not make a scientific study, just guessing) or maybe in denial. But that's great for you: all the power to you!

..............[/QUOTE]Ortos, when I was in my twenties my problem was that I came too fast and having alcohol in me helped me to last longer. Fast forward to forty years later I can last as long as I want to without alcohol.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2374082]Ortos, when I was in my twenties my problem was that I came too fast and having alcohol in me helped me to last longer. Fast forward to forty years later I can last as long as I want to without alcohol.[/QUOTE]Bingo, baby! Well said: puts it all in a nutshell.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2374134]Bingo, baby! Well said: puts it all in a nutshell.[/QUOTE]+1 - unless it's the first girl of the week. I swear to god a BBBJ master can finish me in under 5 minutes if it's the first girl of the week. I without fail have to stop the first girl and move to DATY or DFK or something or my room would be done in 2-5 minutes! It's fucking embarrassing. But I've learned to manage it and distract them till closer to the 30 minute time. But can't take too much BBBJ on round 1 or I am done!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374068] I truly enjoy my experience more as a full experience, including drinks as a part of it. [/QUOTE]Exactly. When I'm in the club, I'm up to having fun any way I want.

Oh yes. This is not only embarrasing. But even more frustrating. I was done too early, and had to recover for at least 1 HR. Insteas I like to prolong and enjoy all the thrills -.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374140]+1 - unless it's the first girl of the week. I swear to god a BBBJ master can finish me in under 5 minutes if it's the first girl of the week. I without fail have to stop the first girl and move to DATY or DFK or something or my room would be done in 2-5 minutes! It's fucking embarrassing. But I've learned to manage it and distract them till closer to the 30 minute time. But can't take too much BBBJ on round 1 or I am done![/QUOTE]

Anyone know if Brenda with the big titties is still around? I was at Sharks last Wednesday but she was not there. Line up was a little underwhelming and I was disappointed with her absence as I was hoping to fuck her again. She gives a mean sloppy BJ and fucks good.

May give Sharks another visit later this week if there is confirmation she is still there.

Thanks...Howie

I have been to Sharks a few times, Living Room, Babylon, GT, YY, and a couple others I don't remember the names of (one in Vienna I think was also GT, and an awful one in Innsbruck.).

First thing I'm wondering is if I can find what I'm looking for. Have a specific fantasy in mind, but nervous to ask in case it's considered gross or inappropriate. Wouldn't want word getting out and other girls avoiding me.

I would likely need a full hour for this. With multiple shots. Essentially, I want to give her a facial, have her leave it there until I'm ready to fuck, then a suck and fuck til I blow again (probably facial again). Ideally a pretty, young petite blonde.

I know it's super porn like and not GFE, but hoping these girls hear weird requests all the time? Should I avoid asking for something like that, or are there clubs I'm more likely to find it?

Second thing is scheduling my trip. May not be til November, in case weather is a consideration.

I love Sharks the most so far, even on a Monday vs other clubs, but I think I'll try Oase or World, and maybe Oceans or Samya. I can't decide. I have a few days between Frankfurt and Dusseldorf, so I'm wondering how would YOU split up your time?

Let's say I arrive on a Thursday and can spend Thursday night at one club, all day Friday somewhere else, different clubs again for Saturday and Sunday, and maybe even a 5th on Monday morning depending when my flight leaves. (Though that might just be a walk around Duisburg).

Any clubs are considered, but Sharks has to be one of the full days. Thanks for any advice!

[QUOTE=Howie;2374266]Anyone know if Brenda with the big titties is still around? I was at Sharks last Wednesday but she was not there. Line up was a little underwhelming and I was disappointed with her absence as I was hoping to fuck her again. She gives a mean sloppy BJ and fucks good.

May give Sharks another visit later this week if there is confirmation she is still there.

Thanks...Howie[/QUOTE]Brenda told me in June that she works for a couple weeks then goes home for a couple weeks. I suggested to her that that is how she retains her good looks. She said she needs the time off and to maintain regular contact with her family.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374140]+1 - unless it's the first girl of the week. I swear to god a BBBJ master can finish me in under 5 minutes if it's the first girl of the week. I without fail have to stop the first girl and move to DATY or DFK or something or my room would be done in 2-5 minutes! It's fucking embarrassing. But I've learned to manage it and distract them till closer to the 30 minute time. But can't take too much BBBJ on round 1 or I am done![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2374217]Oh yes. This is not only embarrasing. But even more frustrating. I was done too early, and had to recover for at least 1 HR. Insteas I like to prolong and enjoy all the thrills -.[/QUOTE]You're in a club with a dozen or two dozen beautiful women, you can have sex with anyone you want, (in just about any way) and they are standing around nude. I'd say it's remarkable we don't all have an orgasm walking around in our towels before we get to the room. And if you've been married for a while, I'd suggest you might have the orgasm just thinking about it when you are en route in the cab! Occasionally one read a report where a guy goes in and "gets the first one done quickly and out of the way", so he can slowly enjoy the rest of the evening!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2374276]Looking for something specific, and question about days of week[/QUOTE]I think it's doable and not too far off reservation but it's also going to cost. I hope you can speak German / Romanian / Bulgarian to get the message across too as I'd expect that they will mess it up for you too.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2374474]You're in a club with a dozen or two dozen beautiful women, you can have sex with anyone you want, (in just about any way) and they are standing around nude. I'd say it's remarkable we don't all have an orgasm walking around in our towels before we get to the room. And if you've been married for a while, I'd suggest you might have the orgasm just thinking about it when you are en route in the cab! Occasionally one read a report where a guy goes in and "gets the first one done quickly and out of the way", so he can slowly enjoy the rest of the evening![/QUOTE]You are lucky guy, so difficult for me to find now a desirable girl at Sharks, sometimes turning around for 15 hours, marathon man replaying midnight express movie, to exhaustion, more exhausted than after climbing. Desirable beauties are rare for me in FKK land, many times I leave heavy with full balls but I don't want to spend my money just to empty my balls, fortunately I find a very few. Wish for new one at Sharks. Oase have prettier faces for my eyes.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2374276]Have a specific fantasy in mind, but nervous to ask in case it's considered gross or inappropriate. [/QUOTE]I believe you can get it in Sharks if you'll pay a nice extra. Your fantasy is not extreme, so nothing to be nervous about. My guess is for 200/ hour some girls will want to do it, 300/ hour you'll have a nice choice of girls willing to do it, 500/ hour and you can probably make it with any girl in the club.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374140]+1 - unless it's the first girl of the week. I swear to god a BBBJ master can finish me in under 5 minutes if it's the first girl of the week. I without fail have to stop the first girl and move to DATY or DFK or something or my room would be done in 2-5 minutes! It's fucking embarrassing. But I've learned to manage it and distract them till closer to the 30 minute time. But can't take too much BBBJ on round 1 or I am done![/QUOTE]Oh man, this! The first girl I see tends to get 50 E for like 1 minute of BBBJ and 1 minute of pounding. Embarrassing, but what do you do? I've contemplating paying for CIM for my first room on my next visit, so I least get something interesting out of it. The other approach is to go for a 2 hour room with an old favorite, and ensure you get two go around. What to do.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2374276]I would likely need a full hour for this. With multiple shots. Essentially, I want to give her a facial, have her leave it there until I'm ready to fuck, then a suck and fuck til I blow again (probably facial again). Ideally a pretty, young petite blonde.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't call it inappropriate, but most girls in FKK clubs rush to clean themselves from any fluids exchanged during sex for hygienic reasons. Having actual sperm staying in direct contact with girl's skin for a prolonged time can be a significant negotiation problem.

So here are couple of alternatives. First (done this few times myself), unless you have a very specific requirement of actual sperm on girl's face, asking her to use lubrication gel to imitate cum-covered face. This, of course, should be at no extra charge.

A second possibility would be to team up with a fellow monger and negotiate with the girl to have him cum on her face while you finish missionary or together with him on her face. Split the cost and have fun together. Why not?

Next Tuesday I'll be making my first ever FKK visit to Sharks. Can I use my own Trojan Bareskins or will the girls require use of their own condoms? Think I would prefer to decline the guided tour and bump my way around the place. After I walk in and pay the fee (saying I've already been here before) could you tell me which way to go from there to shower and change? Will I be offered a choice of robe or towel or can I ask for both? I've heard there's two sets of lockers so could you explain what to put where? Are drinks tallied up based on a keychain number or some such system? And most importantly, are there any very hot (young, thin and pretty) girls I should definitely avoid? You know what I mean. A girl that I will be sorry a few minutes into the room when there's suddenly no more smiling and friendliness. Feel free to PM with this info if you'the rather not post a name publicly. Thanks. My reports as always will follow.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374632]Next Tuesday I'll be making my first ever FKK visit to Sharks. Can I use my own Trojan Bareskins or will the girls require use of their own condoms? Think I would prefer to decline the guided tour and bump my way around the place. After I walk in and pay the fee (saying I've already been here before) could you tell me which way to go from there to shower and change? Will I be offered a choice of robe or towel or can I ask for both? I've heard there's two sets of lockers so could you explain what to put where? Are drinks tallied up based on a keychain number or some such system? And most importantly, are there any very hot (young, thin and pretty) girls I should definitely avoid? You know what I mean. A girl that I will be sorry a few minutes into the room when there's suddenly no more smiling and friendliness. Feel free to PM with this info if you'the rather not post a name publicly. Thanks. My reports as always will follow.[/QUOTE]You will be given both a towel and a robe as well as shower shoes. The locker room to the left. This is a large locker for clothes. When you enter the main club there are small lockers to the right for your money. They are pretty small and will not hold much else. I will bring a paperback to read between sessions in the dining room. You pay for drinks with your key chain and then at the front desk as you leave. The food is to the left. Hot tubs are up the large staircase. The sauna is way in the back on the left. You do not need a tour, you will be able to find your way around.

Is Angelina, German / Colombian petite brunette, curvy, fake tits, tattoos, still working at Sharks? Or anywhere else?

Are there many bimbos with fake tits in Sharks these days?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2374276]I have been to Sharks a few times, Living Room, Babylon, GT, YY, and a couple others I don't remember the names of (one in Vienna I think was also GT, and an awful one in Innsbruck.).

First thing I'm wondering is if I can find what I'm looking for. Have a specific fantasy in mind, but nervous to ask in case it's considered gross or inappropriate. Wouldn't want word getting out and other girls avoiding me.

I would likely need a full hour for this. With multiple shots. Essentially, I want to give her a facial, have her leave it there until I'm ready to fuck, then a suck and fuck til I blow again (probably facial again). Ideally a pretty, young petite blonde.[/QUOTE]Thursday. Samya (good intro into FKK land) Cologne is a nice city check it out. Also stop by Pascha which I believe is the largest brothel in Europe. Full disclosure I say both of these because they were my intro into it. Or you can skip it and go to the big boy clubs in Frankfurt.

Friday- Palace has a nice lineup. Pretty good food. Newly renovated sauna area. But no real place to chill and relax.

Saturday- Oase. Best during sunny warm days because of the outdoor area but still a large club and very enjoyable in the winter. Food is OK. Several areas to get away and recharge the batteries.

Sunday- Sharks. You already know. Discount on Sundays between 11-2.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2374503]I think it's doable and not too far off reservation but it's also going to cost. I hope you can speak German / Romanian / Bulgarian to get the message across too as I'd expect that they will mess it up for you too.[/QUOTE]No, don't speak those, but language hasn't seemed to be an issue at Sharks for me in the past.

Never been on a weekend though. Visits have always been Mon-Thurs.

Will it be too crowded on a Saturday to really enjoy? Love the ides of a larger selection, but not thrilled with a bigger crowd of guys or waiting. Would you recommend s different club for Saturday's?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374632]Next Tuesday I'll be making my first ever FKK visit to Sharks. Can I use my own Trojan Bareskins or will the girls require use of their own condoms? Think I would prefer to decline the guided tour and bump my way around the place. After I walk in and pay the fee (saying I've already been here before) could you tell me which way to go from there to shower and change? Will I be offered a choice of robe or towel or can I ask for both? I've heard there's two sets of lockers so could you explain what to put where? Are drinks tallied up based on a keychain number or some such system? And most importantly, are there any very hot (young, thin and pretty) girls I should definitely avoid? You know what I mean. A girl that I will be sorry a few minutes into the room when there's suddenly no more smiling and friendliness. Feel free to PM with this info if you'the rather not post a name publicly. Thanks. My reports as always will follow.[/QUOTE]In my first ever visit to Sharks I went without knowing the answer to every single one of your questions and had a great time.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374632]Next Tuesday I'll be making my first ever FKK visit to Sharks. Can I use my own Trojan Bareskins or will the girls require use of their own condoms? Think I would prefer to decline the guided tour and bump my way around the place. After I walk in and pay the fee (saying I've already been here before) could you tell me which way to go from there to shower and change? Will I be offered a choice of robe or towel or can I ask for both? I've heard there's two sets of lockers so could you explain what to put where? Are drinks tallied up based on a keychain number or some such system? And most importantly, are there any very hot (young, thin and pretty) girls I should definitely avoid? You know what I mean. A girl that I will be sorry a few minutes into the room when there's suddenly no more smiling and friendliness. Feel free to PM with this info if you'the rather not post a name publicly. Thanks. My reports as always will follow.[/QUOTE]I have never brought my own condoms. Maybe this is something to discuss with the girl in your pre-room negotiation? I don't think they offered me a guided tour. I don't think one is necessary. They will give you a key, robe and slippers after your pay the entry. The locker room is almost directly across from the front desk and on the left. You have a locker and then there is small room type safe on your right hand side as you leave the locker and enter the main room. I think I have always left my wallet in my main locker but there is both for your convenience. I think you can request a towel but this is mostly a robe place. As you walk in the bar the sauna is on a diagonal on the first floor at the opposite end of the building. If you go there when Dieter's Sauna team is there I think you will like this. It is a unique experience. I think he does this Wednesday, Friday and Saturdays but check. Look for my old write-ups to understand more. Drinks are tallied on your locker key and you pay at the end of the night and they take paper money only (or some shit). I remember I made a stand at closing time last visit as I metered out change and the rude woman up front was not taking it. Some German's checking out behind me got a kick out of it and told me paper only when we walked out into the parking lot.

I honestly haven't had a bad session there since I started going there in 2017. Some girls are a little more sharky than others and some ask for more money but if you pay the piper she will play. Just remember that each piper has different price points. I've got some bad vibes and avoided those girls but unlike Oase I haven't found a girl that was a total rip-off or renegotiated in mid session. I'm sure they are there but I have been able to avoid them. There is this really petite, thin Romanian girl at the the very front of the bar, chain smoking or gambling as you walk in. She has reddish hair and a permanent resting Biotch face (RBF) and usually wheres a leather strap outfit. I think her name is Karina. I would say avoid her but I think I've heard guys have had good sessions with ever her. She likes money so why not? There is another that looks like Cleopatra that likes to sweet talk you while you are in a deck chair and she will massage your dick and as soon as you say no, she may grab and twist you dick. So be careful of her (Olympia she was calling herself last visit? She used to be Angelina???) Watch out for a young cute, giggly, natural-blond with dimples named Anastasia. She will sucker you into anal. I'm not even a huge fan and I've done it twice with her(although at a discount the first time). I really enjoyed Elona and I want to do her friend Ava. I like Gina the German porn star looking mid-30 MILF with glasses, tats, and hair down to her ass. I got cheap with her my first visit trying to get a 30 min /50 Euro session and I created a condition where I wasn't going to get a session for 500 Euros. The next visit, I walked up to her with a different tact and offered 100 E for an hour right off the bat and had a great session. So be firm but don't try to hard to be firm if you know what I mean. The girls read first impressions and can write you off in a few sentences. Maybe that is what has happened with Karina?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2374632]Next Tuesday I'll be making my first ever FKK visit to Sharks. Can I use my own Trojan Bareskins or will the girls require use of their own condoms? Think I would prefer to decline the guided tour and bump my way around the place. After I walk in and pay the fee (saying I've already been here before) could you tell me which way to go from there to shower and change? Will I be offered a choice of robe or towel or can I ask for both? I've heard there's two sets of lockers so could you explain what to put where? Are drinks tallied up based on a keychain number or some such system? And most importantly, are there any very hot (young, thin and pretty) girls I should definitely avoid? You know what I mean. A girl that I will be sorry a few minutes into the room when there's suddenly no more smiling and friendliness. Feel free to PM with this info if you'the rather not post a name publicly. Thanks. My reports as always will follow.[/QUOTE]I prefer a towel because it's hot as fuck in there IMO. This does however mean you can't keep your condoms on you. I recommend the little wallet locker anyhow the girls want to be paid right after. So I put my Euros and condoms in the wallet locker.

When I grab a girl I ask her to wait just a moment while I use the restroom. She waits at bottom of stairs. I relieve myself and grab condoms and then go to the room. Worldwide including Sharks I've only had one girl ever refuse mine. And that was in russia with a real pro she always uses Durex purple and they were great.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2374826] I recommend the little wallet locker anyhow the girls want to be paid right after. So I put my Euros and condoms in the wallet locker.[/QUOTE]I've stopped using these once I almost forgot several hundred EUR in this locker. Thanks God I was in Sharks with my friend that time and he asked me if I have anything left in small locker. If he would not ask I would most likely never know I've left some money there. Anyway we were heading to the airport so I would not get it back even if I would somehow recall I had some money in the locker. Leaving my wallet there would me worse.

Ever since girls are waiting for me next to these small lockers while I go to changing room for money. Zero complains, all happy.

I arrived at 1730 and the parking lot was already full. Inside lots of humming and summing. Especially crowded for a last Wednesday in the month, when most still didn't have their paycheck.

This was about my 12th visit or so to Sharks.

What I liked?

- Lots of girls. Pretty nice selection for most folks - just for me not so much as i either prefer germans or very big all-naturals.
- Waiting time were ok, given that this was so crowded. Seemingly most of the men were just looking around most of the time.

What I didn't like?

- Quite a few of the germans asked for 75 or 100 euro per 30 min. This is insane. I don't have anything against a price upgrade, but please keep it modest, say 60 euro, which still is 20% more money.
- There were only 8 germans in total - and most of them were oldies, or simply burned out, long-time prostitutes of low caliber - imho.
- The boob faction lost much of its appeal. There were many fakes now. Lots of the previous all-natural-boob-stars werent there. Some like Brenda were here. But I am not a big fan of her sagging ones.
- Paying 9 euro for a sparkling wine, is imo outragous.

My rooms were not so great. But that might have been due to simply bad luck.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2374937]I arrived at 1730 and the parking lot was already full. Inside lots of humming and summing. Especially crowded for a last Wednesday in the month, when most still didn't have their paycheck.

This was about my 12th visit or so to Sharks.

What I liked?

- Lots of girls. Pretty nice selection for most folks - just for me not so much as i either prefer germans or very big all-naturals.
- Waiting time were ok, given that this was so crowded. Seemingly most of the men were just looking around most of the time.

What I didn't like?

- Quite a few of the Germans asked for 75 or 100 euro per 30 min. This is insane. I don't have anything against a price upgrade, but please keep it modest, say 60 euro, which still is 20% more money.
- There were only 8 Germans in total - and most of them were oldies, or simply burned out, long-time prostitutes of low caliber - IMHO..[/QUOTE]I remember Sharks seemed to be the place to go for large natural pairs. Is that not so anymore? Can anyone recommend a place for that?

And I don't mind Brenda's at all! Nice to hear she's still there!

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2374937]Lots of the previous all-natural-boob-stars werent there. Some like Brenda were here. But I am not a big fan of her sagging ones.[/QUOTE]Good to know Brenda is around. I'm planning to visit Sharks tomorrow and would love to have a room with her. I had mixed feelings about her before, but last time I finally decided to try her, and we had a good click.

I'm not a big fan of her boobs, but all other aspects of her body are superb. She attracts me much more now than 2 or 3 years ago. Maybe that's because most of other veterans are getting cheaper looks over the time and she manages to keep it up and stay classy.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2374937]I
- Quite a few of the germans asked for 75 or 100 euro per 30 min. This is insane. I don't have anything against a price upgrade, but please keep it modest, say 60 euro, which still is 20% more money.
- There were only 8 germans in total - and most of them were oldies, or simply burned out, long-time prostitutes of low caliber - imho.
- The boob faction lost much of its appeal. There were many fakes now. Lots of the previous all-natural-boob-stars werent there. Some like Brenda were here. But I am not a big fan of her sagging ones.
- Paying 9 euro for a sparkling wine, is imo outragous.
.[/QUOTE]Did you see Gina and her friend Lara there? Are they still there? Both are Germans. How about Romanians Ava and Elona?

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2374937]...........- Quite a few of the germans asked for 75 or 100 euro per 30 min. This is insane. I don't have anything against a price upgrade, but please keep it modest, say 60 euro, which still is 20% more money............[/QUOTE]I have never been asked for EUR75 for half hour. They always upgrade to 100 which I refuse. If the girl is really hot I may pay 75.60? No girl is going to request that as an upgrade.

I am going to Germany next week and would like to visit Sharks. Does anyone know if Brenda and the great sisters Amalia and Elif are present at the moment?

Beautiful garden is sad under rain, it was fun to push under rain on autobahn, no need quattro. Veranda is good for excellent breakfast with salmon, cheeses. Some girls: German Lara and Leoni, Melani with glasses, Ester, Elif and Amalia, Brenda amazing tits, cute and super fresh, round face, new Elsa. Inca, Roxy, Sade.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2374816]I honestly haven't had a bad session there since I started going there in 2017. Some girls are a little more sharky than others and some ask for more money but if you pay the piper she will play. Just remember that each piper has different price points. I've got some bad vibes and avoided those girls but unlike Oase I haven't found a girl that was a total rip-off or renegotiated in mid session[/QUOTE]That matches perfectly my experience at Shark and Oase and I started visiting these clubs around 2015.

I made FKK Sharks the first stop on my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour in August-September 2019; see my previous post on the General Info thread for an overview of my tour. I sensed from what I had read online that Sharks and perhaps Oase were the most popular and highly regarded of the Frankfurt area FKKs among foreigners. My first night of mongering was a Saturday night, so I looked forward to visiting such a well-reviewed establishment at a peak time.

My visit was ultimately rewarding because I had two very satisfying sessions there with a Czech girl and a Hungarian girl. The Czech girl proudly stated that she was from Budejovice, the home of Budweiser beer. She had a darker complexion and coloring, a slightly voluptuous build, and some very charismatic body language that caught my eye. The Hungarian, a tall, statuesque blonde in the early stages of MILFhood, bore a slight resemblance to the actress Jeri Ryan. She spoke no English, but I managed to explain what I wanted with a few key German phrases that I had memorized.

Both girls delivered quality service, including kissing and BBBJ, at the reasonable price of 50 euros for half an hour. I understood (please correct me if I am wrong) from what I had read online that this had been the standard package before the 2017 condom law made oral service upsell pervasive. I had also gotten the sense that Sharks girls were less prone to upsell than those of the other Frankfurt area FKKs, which appeared to be the case with these two girls. The 50 euro CIM upsell was on the table as a contingency, but I saw no need to CIM and finished in the condom during CFS with both girls.

Both girls marked my introduction to what I found to be the exceptional level of blowjob skills among FKK girls. Both girls displayed positive attitudes and added about as much GFE as I could have reasonably expected under the circumstances. The Czech girl made a point of taking us to the more comfortable air conditioned session booths in the outdoor area. I would also add that the Czech girl was a better performer than any of the Czech girls that I encountered during the second leg of my two-week European trip in Prague (which I will report separately). The Hungarian girl was my introduction to what would turn out to be one of my preferred nationalities among the FKK girls, to the point that I am now considering future travel to Hungary more seriously than I did before.

Aside from those two quality sessions, however, the other facets of my experience at Sharks were somewhat underwhelming. They only had towels to wear and no robes, which were available at every other FKK that I visited. Unless I missed them, they did not have separate lockers for wallets and phones, which were available at every other FKK that I visited and I found to be a good idea. More importantly, the indoor areas were unbearably hot; either there was no air conditioning at all, it was not functioning properly, or it was woefully inadequate. Many mosquitoes came into the indoor areas from the open door to the outdoor areas (which probably contributed to the heat). The cigarette smoke in the social area did not help either. In all fairness, Sharks did at least outdo the other FKKs in the provision of hygiene supplies, with some spray-on deodorant, for which I was grateful in the sweltering heat.

Aside from the physical discomfort, the lineup and the odds were rather less favorable than I had expected, particularly for a Saturday night. The male: female ratio was probably the least favorable of any of the FKKs that I visited; there might have actually been more guys than girls, and it had a bit of a sausage party vibe. It was so crowded with guys that I wondered if coming to such a popular venue on such a busy night had been a good idea. The lineup was also rather less impressive to me than I had expected from what I had read. Granted, my tastes are rather different from and run a bit thicker than what appears to be the prevailing aesthetic at FKKs. Even accounting for that factor, however, I would still say that the visual quality of the lineup at Sharks was the lowest of the four FKKs in and around Frankfurt that I visited. It took quite a bit of searching to find those two girls that I did like. In all fairness, though, I cannot exclude the possibility that the sweltering heat and my general discomfort from the smoke and the mosquitoes impeded my ability to appreciate the quality of the lineup.

In all fairness and on the plus side, the girls at Sharks were also probably the least aggressive of all four Frankfurt area FKKs that I visited. As luck would have it, one of the few girls that did display "sharky" behavior was also one of the few that fit my tastes quite closely: a tall, statuesque blonde with huge tits (think Anna Nicole Smith). I was fortunate that the two girls that I selected did not display any red flags in our pre-session discussions, as I might have had a hard time finding more candidates to interview.

The language barrier was another obstacle. I had to discard two other candidates because they did not speak any English, and the few German phrases that I had memorized did not get through to them somehow. I had hardly any other linguistic problems of this kind at any of the other FKKs that I visited.

What I had read about Sharks beforehand made wonder why so many foreigners like it so much. I sensed that they like the size and quality of the lineup. If that is the case, I would disagree. I would argue, based on my admittedly limited experience, that the key selling point of Sharks was that the girls had good attitudes and delivered quality service at reasonable prices with minimal upsell. That is a strong selling point, and the two sessions that I had there started my FKK tour off on the right foot and gave me a good introduction to the quality service that I also received at other FKKs. By the same token, this selling point was not strong enough for me to return during this one-week FKK tour, when I still had other FKKs to try. I reasoned that, if the lineup did not suit my tastes well at a peak time, then it was even less likely to suit my tastes on a slower night. The sweltering heat, the less favorable gender ratio, and the language barrier did not give me a strong desire to return either. The quality service that I received does nonetheless make me want to give Sharks another shot on a future trip, perhaps at a cooler time of year, on a different night of the week, and with a greater knowledge of German.

Hey brothers,

I need your help. I'm going to be stopping into Frankfurt for a night on transit, and wanted to know if it was worth venturing out for the night.

I'll only arrive in Frankfurt around 9 pm, which means I'll only check into the airport hotel around 10 pm.

Would you recommend me trying an FKK club? I've never been to one before, but would love to experience it.

I've read that they close late, around 3 am. Which means I have potentially a couple of hours there. But that being a Thursday night. Is it worth all the effort?

This will be my only time coming through Germany for the foreseeable future which means this is the only opportunity for me! So take sympathy on me and help a brother out!

From what I've read, my options are Sharks, Palace, Oase?

If I could go to only 1, which would it be?

How would you recommend getting into town? Train and walk?

Any feedback would be greatly greatly appreciated.

If it makes any difference. Staying in steignburger at the airport and leaving the next morning to st Petersburg after for a couple of days.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PpSeeker;2375509]Hey brothers,

I need your help. I'm going to be stopping into Frankfurt for a night on transit, and wanted to know if it was worth venturing out for the night.

I'll only arrive in Frankfurt around 9 pm, which means I'll only check into the airport hotel around 10 pm.

Would you recommend me trying an FKK club? I've never been to one before, but would love to experience it.

I've read that they close late, around 3 am. Which means I have potentially a couple of hours there. But that being a Thursday night. Is it worth all the effort?

This will be my only time coming through Germany for the foreseeable future which means this is the only opportunity for me! So take sympathy on me and help a brother out!

From what I've read, my options are Sharks, Palace, Oase?.[/QUOTE]Yes. Go.

Seriously.

Only been to Sharks of the three you mentioned, but even a couple hours that late on a Thursday is worth the experience, I think.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2375473]Beautiful garden is sad under rain, it was fun to push under rain on autobahn, no need quattro. Veranda is good for excellent breakfast with salmon, cheeses. Some girls: German Lara and Leoni, Melani with glasses, Ester, Elif and Amalia, Brenda amazing tits, cute and super fresh, round face, new Elsa. Inca, Roxy, Sade.[/QUOTE]Also lovely, long time Patricia who became silicon, and lovely Cuban Lila and from Philippine Mali, both close to ex kino. Also Viorica now with black hair, and small Celin. Tu ex GT / LR. Lovely Coni. Ro, I prefer Romanians, for me for 100 for full GFE hour, but no wow at Sharks like I got twice at Oase. Quantity but average casting for me. Unfortunately because I like club services.

She first asked for 100 euro. I refused. Then she tried 75 euro. On which I passed as well. It is a bit like visiting a turkish bazaar. They are trying new pricing schedules.

My recommendation:

1. refuse.

2. refuse.

3. refuse.

Only if they are an exceptional stunner or you want something out of the ordinary.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2375134]I have never been asked for EUR75 for half hour. They always upgrade to 100 which I refuse. If the girl is really hot I may pay 75.60? No girl is going to request that as an upgrade.[/QUOTE]

Gina is now at GT. You mean the tall, dark-hair, german, with plastic boobs, right?

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2375125]Did you see Gina and her friend Lara there? Are they still there? Both are Germans. How about Romanians Ava and Elona?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2375625]She first asked for 100 euro. I refused. Then she tried 75 euro. On which I passed as well. It is a bit like visiting a turkish bazaar. They are trying new pricing schedules.

My recommendation:

1. refuse.

2. refuse.

3. refuse.

Only if they are an exceptional stunner or you want something out of the ordinary.[/QUOTE]Instead of refusing, did you or anyone try to counter with a lower than standard rates? For example:

Girl: 75 e for 30 minutes.

Guy: 25 e for 30 minutes.

Girl: OK let's go for 50 e for 30 minutes.

Guy: OK deal.

Like a real Turkish bazaar? LOL.

[QUOTE=PpSeeker;2375509]Hey brothers,

I need your help. I'm going to be stopping into Frankfurt for a night on transit, and wanted to know if it was worth venturing out for the night.

I'll only arrive in Frankfurt around 9 pm, which means I'll only check into the airport hotel around 10 pm.

Would you recommend me trying an FKK club? I've never been to one before, but would love to experience it.

I've read that they close late, around 3 am. Which means I have potentially a couple of hours there. But that being a Thursday night. Is it worth all the effort?

This will be my only time coming through Germany for the foreseeable future which means this is the only opportunity for me! So take sympathy on me and help a brother out!

From what I've read, my options are Sharks, Palace, Oase?

If I could go to only 1, which would it be?.[/QUOTE]What day of the week? Did I miss it?

I would skip the hotel to save that money and go straight to the club. You can stay in the club till close and go right back to the airport. You can catch up on your sleep in your morning flight.

Go to Sharks or Oase. Both are good choices. Take a taxi. However, in the night you can take the airport bus to Darmstadt to save a few bucks.

Heading for my first visit to sharks. I have only done Mainhattan and palace. But, I just read a poster say sharks only has towels. Please tell me this is not the case?

[QUOTE=JDavid1976;2375648]Heading for my first visit to sharks. I have only done Mainhattan and palace. But, I just read a poster say sharks only has towels. Please tell me this is not the case?[/QUOTE]Have no fears. Sharks has robes just as all the clubs do.

[QUOTE=PpSeeker;2375509]Hey brothers,

I need your help. I'm going to be stopping into Frankfurt for a night on transit, and wanted to know if it was worth venturing out for the night.

I'll only arrive in Frankfurt around 9 pm, which means I'll only check into the airport hotel around 10 pm.

Would you recommend me trying an FKK club? I've never been to one before, but would love to experience it.

I've read that they close late, around 3 am. Which means I have potentially a couple of hours there. But that being a Thursday night. Is it worth all the effort?

This will be my only time coming through Germany for the foreseeable future which means this is the only opportunity for me! So take sympathy on me and help a brother out!

From what I've read, my options are Sharks, Palace, Oase?.[/QUOTE]Please, do your self a favor and gooo. And I highly recommend Sharks. I believe on weekdays the club closes at 4 AM so you will have plenty of time to enjoy the place. Check out the Airliner bus that goes from Frankfurt Airport to Darmstadt central station. From there you can take a taxi to sharks (10-12 euros). There is also a Bus that goes from Darmstadt central station (bus R) but since you are short on time, I would say just take the taxi. And you can skip the hotel and drop your bags at luggage storage (Darmstatd central station have few) or check out if Frankfurt airport have any and spend your entire night at sharks. Also, on Thursdays Sharks has this hourly sauna treatments until 11 PM or 12 AM. I highly recommend those.

Again, I cannot emphasize enough. Just go and believe me it will be experience of your life and you will come back.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2375680]Have no fears. Sharks has robes just as all the clubs do.[/QUOTE]Except Babylon, I think. Pretty sure it was just a towel.

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2375501]I made FKK Sharks the first stop on my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour in August-September 2019; see my previous post on the General Info thread for an overview of my tour. I sensed from what I had read online that Sharks and perhaps Oase were the most popular and highly regarded of the Frankfurt area FKKs among foreigners. My first night of mongering was a Saturday night, so I looked forward to visiting such a well-reviewed establishment at a peak time..[/QUOTE]Excellent reporting GI. Truly enjoyed reading it. Will checkout your other FKK tour reports as well. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2375680]Have no fears. Sharks has robes just as all the clubs do.[/QUOTE]Robes for free at Sharks, white, blue. Not for free at World or Finca, so as I'm poor, I'm cold. Sharks desk improved much more smiling friendly. Great breakfast, good diner, good drinks, but I slept at 10 pm like a baby, exhausted to turn around since noon.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2375736]Except Babylon, I think. Pretty sure it was just a towel.[/QUOTE]And the RTC (but not F39).

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;2375501]I made FKK Sharks the first stop on my first Frankfurt-based FKK tour in August-September 2019; see my previous post on the General Info thread for an overview of my tour. I sensed from what I had read online that Sharks and perhaps Oase were the most popular and highly regarded of the Frankfurt area FKKs among foreigners. My first night of mongering was a Saturday night, so I looked forward to visiting such a well-reviewed establishment at a peak time.
.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Did you happen to catch the names of the Czech and Hungarian girl? I've had great luck with Hungarian girls at FKKs and in the US. How about the Anna Nichole Smith looking girl? I really don't think that learning German is an issue in FKK land. At least at Sharks. It wouldn't hurt but the complaint of the German guys that I have commonly heard is that they have to communicate with the Romanians in English.

What other FKK's did you go to?

Does anyone know if the recent renovations will address the HVAC?

Has the line-up been down lately or is this just a fluke?

Yes, I've had great service at Sharks. Thanks again!

[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;2375736]Except Babylon, I think. Pretty sure it was just a towel.[/QUOTE]Yes, no robe at Bab, World, Finca, Mainhattan.

You have a great point. I am always under the impression, that if I try to cut a better deal, the lady will simply lower the service.

However next time, I will - . Seriously.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2375635]Instead of refusing, did you or anyone try to counter with a lower than standard rates? For example:

Girl: 75 e for 30 minutes.

Guy: 25 e for 30 minutes.

Girl: OK let's go for 50 e for 30 minutes.

Guy: OK deal.

Like a real Turkish bazaar? LOL.[/QUOTE]

I bought airplane tickets for my November trip. I'm exited to visit sharks again. Its been a while since my last visit (April) so how is the line up in general? Many new girls or the is it just the same?

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2375638]What day of the week? Did I miss it?

I would skip the hotel to save that money and go straight to the club. You can stay in the club till close and go right back to the airport. You can catch up on your sleep in your morning flight.

Go to Sharks or Oase. Both are good choices. Take a taxi. However, in the night you can take the airport bus to Darmstadt to save a few bucks.[/QUOTE]This will be a Thursday night. Mid October.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2375987]You have a great point. I am always under the impression, that if I try to cut a better deal, the lady will simply lower the service.

However next time, I will - . Seriously.[/QUOTE]They will just walk away and look for another fish. If you get over to Sharks once a year and you see someone you really want and they are stuck on 100430 and will not budge you may as will pay the 100430 rate. You have options.

1. You can find someone else at Sharks for less.

2. You can leave Sharks and drive to the NRW.

3. You can pay the money and have a great time.

The one thing you can't do is wait them out like the locals if you are not a local. How much was that plane ticket for the flight over to Germany? How much is your car rental and hotel room? What lie did you tell your wife or girlfriend to go hobbying once a year in Germany? What lie did you tell your work? BTW - How much did that last escort you got in Vegas charge you? How about Canada? (I paid 50CDN each way (100 CDN RT) for the Uber from the airport to downtown just to to see an Indy in Toronto that charged 300 CDN and then she cancelled on me after I got to downtown. Luckily, I was able to scramble and I found a great agency girl last minute for 200 CDN for 45 minutes but I digress.)

The point is that it is tough to get over to FKK land. Having to pay 100430 instead of 50430 once in awhile is small potatoes and more of an annoyance when you consider all this. You're there. Might as well fuck her.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2376031]They will just walk away and look for another fish. If you get over to Sharks once a year and you see someone you really want and they are stuck on 100430 and will not budge you may as will pay the 100430 rate. You have options.

1. You can find someone else at Sharks for less.

2. You can leave Sharks and drive to the NRW.

3. You can pay the money and have a great time.

The one thing you can't do is wait them out like the locals if you are not a local. How much was that plane ticket for the flight over to Germany? How much is your car rental and hotel room? What lie did you tell your wife or girlfriend to go hobbying once a year in Germany? What lie did you tell your work? BTW - How much did that last escort you got in Vegas charge you? How about Canada? (I paid 50CDN each way (100 CDN RT) for the Uber from the airport to downtown just to to see an Indy in Toronto that charged 300 CDN and then she cancelled on me after I got to downtown. Luckily, I was able to scramble and I found a great agency girl last minute for 200 CDN for 45 minutes but I digress.)

The point is that it is tough to get over to FKK land. Having to pay 100430 instead of 50430 once in awhile is small potatoes and more of an annoyance when you consider all this. You're there. Might as well fuck her.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree with this. It's tough to pay less than $300-400 in most US cities for a single go. Fuck in NYC most girls wanted $800 WTF? So let's not stress too much over the FKK price. That said don't let them bully you. If you must have her you must have her. But more often there are multiple options so I don't need to fixate. The ability to walk is your most important tool. The key thing is they want the 100 E if they can get it. You can probably get an hour instead or get CIM thrown in (one girl suggested it). Sometimes you just negotiate for more service or time rather than less $$.

At maihattan I could go in the morning and then leave, go to the hotel and come back later without paying again. Is it.

The same at sharks? At Mainhattan they would write on a piece of paper and give you this receipt.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2376043]... don't let them bully you. If you must have her you must have her. But more often there are multiple options so I don't need to fixate. The ability to walk is your most important tool. The key thing is they want the 100 E if they can get it. You can probably get an hour instead or get CIM thrown in (one girl suggested it). Sometimes you just negotiate for more service or time rather than less $$.[/QUOTE]Good point Steve. Not surprising that the WGs and their pimps are always promoting (pumping up) for higher base rates for 30 minutes, often with long list of arguments in favor of higher prices without extras, like they keep on doing in this and other forums using handles disguised as customers.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2376031]They will just walk away and look for another fish. If you get over to Sharks once a year and you see someone you really want and they are stuck on 100430 and will not budge you may as will pay the 100430 rate. You have options.

1. You can find someone else at Sharks for less.

2. You can leave Sharks and drive to the NRW.

3. You can pay the money and have a great time.

The one thing you can't do is wait them out like the locals if you are not a local. How much was that plane ticket for the flight over to Germany? How much is your car rental and hotel room? What lie did you tell your wife or girlfriend to go hobbying once a year in Germany? What lie did you tell your work? BTW - How much did that last escort you got in Vegas charge you? How about Canada? (I paid 50CDN each way (100 CDN RT) for the Uber from the airport to downtown just to to see an Indy in Toronto that charged 300 CDN and then she cancelled on me after I got to downtown. Luckily, I was able to scramble and I found a great agency girl last minute for 200 CDN for 45 minutes but I digress.)

The point is that it is tough to get over to FKK land. Having to pay 100430 instead of 50430 once in awhile is small potatoes and more of an annoyance when you consider all this. You're there. Might as well fuck her.[/QUOTE]Option 2 mentions NRW. Do you have a favorite club in that area? I will be there on business and while I'm planning on a trip down to Frankfurt area for a Sharks visit (and maybe another club or two), I wonder if I'm wasting my time driving down there. Been to a few in NRW, but maybe I've missed the best ones?