I caught the red-eye in last night and stayed at hotel Botero little place across the street for 45 Mill decide to stay another night for $24 I like the room very functional after reading these reports getting a little scared LOL.
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I caught the red-eye in last night and stayed at hotel Botero little place across the street for 45 Mill decide to stay another night for $24 I like the room very functional after reading these reports getting a little scared LOL.
Hello fellow mongers,
Two friends and I will be visiting Medellin (El Poblado) on Tuesday. We would love to meet up, especially if you speak semi-decent Spanish (none of us speak much Spanish).
We are all in our mid twenties and looking to have some fun! Message me.
[QUOTE=You69Me;2008575]Please provide some addresses of girl friendly apartments.[/QUOTE]Addresses. LOL.
[URL]pobladorentals.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-dentro-de-un-hotel-en-el-centro-de-medellin/357922/[/URL]
WTF? A stabbing & now a murder?
WTF is going on down there guys? Or is same incident as the stabbing but misreported (hopefully)?
El Mechanic.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009001]Unless its Blux, Energy, or Cyan. Those 3 apartments any other apartment with a door man will disappear off the market in a year or less. Someone will fuck it up, the building will push out the short term. That security guy probably hates your guts, and be the first person to call the police. Your better off in a hotel where they can card the girl. Your better off at one of those 3 apartments I mentioned or the mansion.[/QUOTE]That wasn't my experience at all. I think it depends a lot on you, your attitude, and the kind of friends / women you bring to the apartment. If you're respectful, composed, and professional / dignified in how you carry yourself, you can have a very good rapport with the security guys at Energy / Blux / Cyan etc. The people who have problems are loud, disruptive and disrespectful of the local residents who live in the buildings. And often are bringing drugs into the buildings and being very loud about it. Further, they probably are bringing way too many women / pros into the building. And likely are pushing the envelope on under-aged girls as well. Which *should* make a security guy hate your guts.
If you're respectful and low footprint. You can bring women (of legal age) into those apartments. And you want the buffer of a security guard confirming legal age. In a place as beautiful and tolerant as Colombia. One should play within the rules at all times. Particularly as a foreigner.
I think it could be the same case. It's hard to say because the report in El Colombiano had very minimal facts. Either way it's very sad. The minuto30 report says the woman fled the scene. It does not identify the hotel. The victim is named but the woman is not. That tells me the hotel did not collect an ID. More news to come I suppose.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2009191][URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-dentro-de-un-hotel-en-el-centro-de-medellin/357922/[/URL]
WTF? A stabbing & now a murder?
WTF is going on down there guys? Or is same incident as the stabbing but misreported (hopefully)?
El Mechanic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2008791]9 out of ten times. If they "lost there cedula" they might be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url]. ... Anyone maybe not you that says they want to keep there relationship private is normally looking for young girls. In today's age where everything has cameras how is anything private anymore?[/QUOTE]I think you are assuming that those are chicas who I don't know. I have at least three friends, all over 18, who have lost the ID. I have known them when they had their ID, so I have no reason to doubt that they lost it. As for keeping my relationships private, I am not looking for young girls. I have more ladies than I can handle who are of legal age. I have friends who want to work UTR as much as possible. They will not go to hotels, and are picky about the apartments they will go to. In other words, they don't want a paper trail of their activities.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2009228]I think you are assuming that those are chicas who I don't know. I have at least three friends, all over 18, who have lost the ID. I have known them when they had their ID, so I have no reason to doubt that they lost it. As for keeping my relationships private, I am not looking for young girls. I have more ladies than I can handle who are of legal age. I have friends who want to work UTR as much as possible. They will not go to hotels, and are picky about the apartments they will go to. In other words, they don't want a paper trail of their activities.[/QUOTE]Best of luck to you if your ever with them and the police roll up and your a gringo and she looks borderline of age with no cedula.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2009200]That wasn't my experience at all. I think it depends a lot on you, your attitude, and the kind of friends / women you bring to the apartment. If you're respectful, composed, and professional / dignified in how you carry yourself, you can have a very good rapport with the security guys at Energy / Blux / Cyan etc. The people who have problems are loud, disruptive and disrespectful of the local residents who live in the buildings. And often are bringing drugs into the buildings and being very loud about it. Further, they probably are bringing way too many women / pros into the building. And likely are pushing the envelope on under-aged girls as well. Which *should* make a security guy hate your guts.
If you're respectful and low footprint. You can bring women (of legal age) into those apartments. And you want the buffer of a security guard confirming legal age. In a place as beautiful and tolerant as Colombia. One should play within the rules at all times. Particularly as a foreigner.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it takes just one dick for the entire building to lump us all into this idea of a gringo. After a gringo gets murdered here or dies read the comments below it in the news. They stereotype us all. You can be cool as shit Thadmax and from what you wrote I bet you are. But it's that asshole that rented before you that threw a empty bag of coke over the terrace and it landed below because he didn't give a shit because he's on vacation and or the guy that threw a condom out my window like it would magically disappear and not land on my neighbors terrace. They are nice sweat people who love to gossip all the time. They say soccer is the national pastime only second to gossip.
But yes as of now Blux, Cyan, Energy are safe to book many months out and not worry that you will get a email saying "sorry the building has changed the rules and I am going to have to cancel your June reservation"
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009131]I couldn't agree more with the advice. I'm not sure what to make of the newspaper report. It is extremely light on details. It mentions a USA Citizen being stabbed in a Centro hotel while reportedly in the company of a woman. It's not hard to draw conclusions but I am very interested in the circumstances.[/QUOTE]He's dead, from Jersey. Gossip about this today was unreal, they saying she was a assassin. I don't know what to believe. Stabbed to death I believe. Everyone is talking about this. I see a lot of you guys posting these $20 night hotels in centro. Look I like cheap to why not stay in Itaqui. Same priced room. Mayorista same 22 dollar girl and much safer?
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2009200]That wasn't my experience at all. I think it depends a lot on you, your attitude, and the kind of friends / women you bring to the apartment. If you're respectful, composed, and professional / dignified in how you carry yourself, you can have a very good rapport with the security guys at Energy / Blux / Cyan etc. The people who have problems are loud, disruptive and disrespectful of the local residents who live in the buildings. And often are bringing drugs into the buildings and being very loud about it. Further, they probably are bringing way too many women / pros into the building. And likely are pushing the envelope on under-aged girls as well. Which *should* make a security guy hate your guts.
If you're respectful and low footprint. You can bring women (of legal age) into those apartments. And you want the buffer of a security guard confirming legal age. In a place as beautiful and tolerant as Colombia. One should play within the rules at all times. Particularly as a foreigner.[/QUOTE]They might smile at you, but chances are they don't like you. They know what you're in their country for and they know you're paying these girls more than they make in a week. They will generate hate in a lot of men. That doesn't mean they won't do their job and be friendly with you.
You are certainly correct that you're better off being respectful and keeping a low profile. And obviously not bringing comuna rats into the building.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2009200]You can bring women (of legal age) into those apartments. And you want the buffer of a security guard confirming legal age.[/QUOTE]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2009278]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Lots of hypocritical comments on this subject.
And yes, I was stopped by police on a taxi with a girl without cedula on the back seat, and all questions were for her and not for me. I am not supposed to ask cedula to any girl I talk with or I make the favor to give a lift.
[QUOTE=Fun Luvr;2009228]I think you are assuming that those are chicas who I don't know. I have at least three friends, all over 18, who have lost the ID.[/QUOTE]
Sure. Same for me in CTG. I had to bring several girls to motels, instead of to my apartment, because they did not have the cedula (my porteros in most cases are adamantine in refusing entrance without being able to record the cedula number), and they were not under the age for sure.
Some people did not want to understand this, but I cannot repeat enough that in Colombia:
1) missing the cedula does not imply necessarily that a girl is unde*age,
2) neither featuring a cedula is a proof that the girl has legal age (in Colombia, a "fake"* cedula may cost around 100k). Beware of that, if you think that the cedula is the discriminating factor for you feeling not passing the limit of what is illegal or nonethical. Be responsible of yourself and do not commit to others.
* Note: Once again, the meaning of "fake cedula" in this context is not something sophisticated enough to enable someone to pass airport borders under a fake identity. It can be a lost or stolen valid cedula, with an plausible old photo (maybe in black and white) of a girl who does not look really different and therefore can be reasonably taken at first glance as of the holder. The doorman in low-end hotels is not really interested to act as a policeman. A quick glance at the cedulas and everyone is welcome.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009242]Unfortunately it takes just one dick for the entire building to lump us all into this idea of a gringo. After a gringo gets murdered here or dies read the comments below it in the news. They stereotype us all. You can be cool as shit Thadmax and from what you wrote I bet you are. But it's that asshole that rented before you that threw a empty bag of coke over the terrace and it landed below because he didn't give a shit because he's on vacation and or the guy that threw a condom out my window like it would magically disappear and not land on my neighbors terrace. They are nice sweat people who love to gossip all the time. They say soccer is the national pastime only second to gossip.
But yes as of now Blux, Cyan, Energy are safe to book many months out and not worry that you will get a email saying "sorry the building has changed the rules and I am going to have to cancel your June reservation"[/QUOTE]Very good points. And of course I've acknowledged the anti-gringo sentiment. But I haven't run across many Colombians who have flat-out disrespected me or lumped me with the "Ugly American" simply after learning of my nationality. Granted, many think I'm South American until I open my mouth and speak broken Spanish. So that helps in keeping a low profile. But your point is well-taken as it can just take one asshole who has no class and just rampages across an apartment complex for the short-term rental agreements to Americans to be invalidated.
During my last trip to Energy. I noticed a lot of new signs up in the elevators with notices of newly enacted police policies / rules governing partying, pay for play, and even smoking cigarettes on balconies. I hope more Americans understand that Medellin is not Las Vegas. And you should never treat it as such. Hopefully it can be preserved for a bit longer before the Ugly Americans ruin everything. Which they are so adept at doing in other parts of the world.
Stay safe bro.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2009278]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?[/QUOTE]I do confirm age and check cedulas myself. But I'm glad you reiterated this point because it's an important one. To clarify: I like staying at official places with reputable professionals working there. Why? Because (1) they corroborate the age so that I've checked myself. And they've checked. Which is an extra barrier of protection preventing somebody from framing you or at worst. An assassin coming into a centro hotel w / no security guard and taking advantage of a situation (as seems to have happened just this past weekend). And (2) I ensure that I'm doing anything illegal in a foreign country. I know what the laws are and am meticulous at following them. I actually despise the foreigners who come to places like Medellin to try and prey on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url], vulnerable, and exploited girls. Not only are ruining it for those who like to enjoy some legal fun with adult women. But they are contributing to a global crisis that must be addressed.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2009137] That pretty much means the police entered and found a hooker and this guy stabbed several times. Sounds like a drug deal went bad. At least the hooker stuck around![/QUOTE]Not at all. This reminds me what happened me several years ago, maybe 5-8 years ago (I am sure duly reported here, but now I am too lazy to search the link).
I have been subject to robbery or robbery attempt only two times in my life in Colombia, and both times it was entirely my fault. Call it a drop of attention, or my stupidity that at times emerges from the cover of care that I exercise 99.9% of the times.
That time, I had the bad idea to accept the solicitation from a girl met at 2 am in the street of Maracaibo. We went to a small hotel at the beginning of an infamous small street at Prado (no, they do not ask for cedulas LOL, but the room costed me around 5 k). In the room, she extracted a small knife and asked me to give her all money. She even carefully inspected my shoes (that seems to be a popular place for street people to hide money), the inside of the wallet, etc.
I guess I could have easily fought her and taken her knife from the hands, but then what? Should I fight with a girl in a room of a sketchy hotel where she must be friend of the owner? She calls help and I am fucked.
Once again: the best thing to do under attack in a place like Medellin is RELAX. I quietly waited she finished her inspection, took my money (100 k?) and left the room. I left the hotel under the smiling and insolent eyes of the doorman ("Que pas?"), definitely aware of everything, who unlocked the gate for me to leave me out. I lost $40 but my skin is still intact. More experience gathered.
I just got back from Medellin. I set up everything with Barry at Pobaldo Rentals. He is great to work with.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2009190]Addresses. LOL.
[URL]pobladorentals.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2008799]You make the airbnb apartment agent confirm in writing that female guests are allowed. Make them spell the rules out for you via email so they can't go back on their word later. There are many buildings in Laureles sans security, but I would not recommend this for newbies! Never leave your drink unattended, and always check ID and take a picture of her ID and email it to yourself. Trust me on this, never violate this rule. There are a lot of shake downs and scams now and the police are in on it. As long as you are low key and aren't bringing in barrio rats that just huffed paint into your new strata 6 rental lobby, you should be fine. Pick them wisely, the girls down here have gotten real slippery the past few years.[/QUOTE]That is pretty funny advice given Colombians never give you a straight answer. They can't even tell you what time they are coming to meet you.
A friend and I were discussing that it is way under reported that number of visitors that are shot/stabbed/killed given Colombias drive to improve tourism
I just returned from Medellin. It was my first time in Medellin and I really loved the place. I will be going back soon. I may have found my home away from home.
Let me start my report by explaining that I am a 55 year old gringo and traveling with two 70 year old gringos. We have traveled the world together to some of the best mongering spots in the world. We have been to Bangkok, Chaimng mai, Pattaya, Siagon, Phenom Penn, Bogota, Mexico City, etc. We love to see the sights and get immersed in the local culture. We also love the girls.
For this trip, we had a couple of objectives. Explore the city, meet the locals, get immersed in their local culture and meet beautiful women. All were met.
We rented a 3 bedroom condo in El Poblado, not far from Park Lleras. We dealt with Barry at Poblado Rentals. Barry was great to work with. He also set us with a local guide, Jimmy Giraldo. Jimmy was awesome. He understood exactly what we wanted. He did not take us to the tourist traps, but helped us understand the Colombian culture and meet real local people.
In preparing from the trip, I spent about 6 weeks on Colombian Cupid picking out and contacting beautiful. By the time I left for my trip I had about 18 that I had culled down to. I had heard some on this forum warning about how cupid was hit and miss. My experience was great. I would contact the girls on cupid, get their whatsapp number and message them. After a few intro texts, I would ask if they would come see me in El Poblado for sex. 95% of them said Si. Then on to price, services, etc. The girls were very straight forward about everything. So no need to try and pretend when communicating with them. They would also send sexy pics when I asked. Most all the girls were willing to come for sex. I did have a couple that didn't, but strangely enough even though they wouldn't, they had friends they would recommend. So my message to you is try cupid and be straight forward about what you want and you can get good results. All of the girls were semi pro. They all had a part time job or went to school. None spoke good English, but google translate is a great tool.
We arrive at the condo the first night about 11 pm. Message on of the CC girls and she and her two friends were at our condo in about an hour. They ranged in age from 22 to 24. All were very beautiful and very sexy. We had drinks, communicated together with google translate, got comfortable and then each others bedroom. All three girls were amazing in bed. All did BBBJCIM, sex about any way you wanted. All three of these girls dark hair and that darker Colombian skin that is so beautiful. They left the condo about 2:30 am. We had them there for about 2 1/2 hours.
The next night, we brought in a different set of three chicas. 2 were blonde and one brunette. Absolutely gorgeous. The blonde I had was amazing. She had banging body with nice firm see cup tits and an ass to dies for. We had drinks, did a little powder that our guide had procured for us and then to the bedroom. She took my cloths off and I hers. I enjoyed her body so much. I dined at the why for a while, she did a great BBBJ, we explored several positions before she climbed on top for the grand finally. Absolutely amazing. I thought I was in love. Some of the best sex I had ever had. She stayed about 3 hours.
Night 3 was pretty much the same as night one and two. I will skip the details to get to night 4. This was our last night in town. I called my blond back from night two because she was that amazing. But one of my friends wanted to have her. So she agreed to that and brought two different friends with her this time. We had vino, vodka, smoke and powder. We had a great little part listening to music and getting drunk. This night I had a 19 year old little chicha that was wild as hell. Once in the bedroom, we turned on some music. She danced and did a nice strip for me. She undressed me and laid me back on the bed where she proceeded to do this little pole dance thing over my head. She settled in for a nice long session of BBBJCIM. One of the best I ever had. We got up out to the balcony naked, had a little smoke back in the bedroom where we danced baked. A lot of grinding and dancing till I was hard again. Sex for another 30-45 minutes. She was by far the best because of her sexy attitude and her banging hot body.
With all of the girls, we had agreed on $150,000 to $250,000 COP before they arrived. I know I could have gotten by cheaper, but I would rather pay a little more for excellence and that's what I got every night. We walked around centro some during the day, I didn't see anything that came close to my CC girls. I could have went o the Casas or clubs, but didn't feel the need. The condo offered me the safety of knowing the girls would be checked coming and going by the front desk. Little less of a chance of being robbed or worse.
The moral of the story is if you are and older gringo like us and don't care too much for the bar scene, CC is the way to go. At least it was for me. I fell in love with Medellin and will be back. By far the best experience I have had anywhere.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2009278]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?[/QUOTE]Maybe he meant Re-confirming? As in, 4 eyes are better than 2. But you are correct, the ultimate responsibility falls upon us!
El Mechanico.
The problem wasn't necessarily the hotel, its location, or the nightly cost. The problem was more likely the girl, how she came to be in the room, and what preceded her whipping out the pig sticker. I would like to know the name and address of the hotel. When I get time to go through the local papers I will post any information I can find.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009244]He's dead, from Jersey. Gossip about this today was unreal, they saying she was a assassin. I don't know what to believe. Stabbed to death I believe. Everyone is talking about this. I see a lot of you guys posting these $20 night hotels in centro. Look I like cheap to why not stay in Itaqui. Same priced room. Mayorista same 22 dollar girl and much safer?[/QUOTE]
Looks, what documents are on hand, and borderline appearances are ultimately meaningless in those situations. There is legal and illegal. Everyone knows the defining limit. It's a black and white situation that all this chit chat does not change.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009241]Best of luck to you if your ever with them and the police roll up and your a gringo and she looks borderline of age with no cedula.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you. I also assumed he meant re-confirming. It also dilutes the risk of a bullshit shakedown, assuming more than one party does not gang up on the punter.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2009420]Maybe he meant Re-confirming? As in, 4 eyes are better than 2. But you are correct, the ultimate responsibility falls upon us!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for writing this. I really enjoyed it and I'm thrilled you and your friends had such a good time. I am also very impressed at the capacity for partying at your ages. By the way, the possibility of someone getting "robbed or worse" at a casa or club are extremely low. Also, you can rest assured the casas and clubs check their girls and don't let random people come in contact with their customers. No need to change a winning game but I wanted to return the favor and put your mind at ease in case you want to try something different the next time you visit your new home away from home.
[QUOTE=Bdb013;2009410]I just returned from Medellin. It was my first time in Medellin and I really loved the place. I will be going back soon. I may have found my home away from home.
Let me start my report by explaining that I am a 55 year old gringo and traveling with two 70 year old gringos. We have traveled the world together to some of the best mongering spots in the world. We have been to Bangkok, Chaimng mai, Pattaya, Siagon, Phenom Penn, Bogota, Mexico City, etc. We love to see the sights and get immersed in the local culture. We also love the girls.
For this trip, we had a couple of objectives. Explore the city, meet the locals, get immersed in their local culture and meet beautiful women. All were met.
We rented a 3 bedroom condo in El Poblado, not far from Park Lleras. We dealt with Barry at Poblado Rentals. Barry was great to work with. He also set us with a local guide, Jimmy Giraldo. Jimmy was awesome. He understood exactly what we wanted. He did not take us to the tourist traps, but helped us understand the Colombian culture and meet real local people.
In preparing from the trip, I spent about 6 weeks on Colombian Cupid picking out and contacting beautiful. By the time I left for my trip I had about 18 that I had culled down to. I had heard some on this forum warning about how cupid was hit and miss...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bdb013;2009410]
In preparing from the trip, I spent about 6 weeks on Colombian Cupid picking out and contacting beautiful.
[/QUOTE]I've been using it for a couple of days and only found about two obvious prepagos, and one who insists she is not a prepago but come on. I keep asking them who ordered chicken "Mami, quien pidio pollo?" But that's not going over too well. Hey I thought it was a great ice breaker.
[QUOTE]
With all of the girls, we had agreed on $150,000 to $250,000 COP before they arrived. I know I could have gotten by cheaper, but I would rather pay a little more for excellence and that's what I got every night. We walked around centro some during the day, I didn't see anything that came close to my CC girls. I could have went o the Casas or clubs, but didn't feel the need. The condo offered me the safety of knowing the girls would be checked coming and going by the front desk. Little less of a chance of being robbed or worse.
[/QUOTE]Reasonable price. I'm going to work on it some more. I keep getting women in their 40's looking for a serious relationship and shit.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009497]The problem wasn't necessarily the hotel, its location, or the nightly cost. The problem was more likely the girl, how she came to be in the room, and what preceded her whipping out the pig sticker. I would like to know the name and address of the hotel. When I get time to go through the local papers I will post any information I can find.[/QUOTE]30 minutes says he was dead in first report. Today they retract it and say he is alive. Crazy how they can just write whatever.
[QUOTE=ThadMax;2009371]Very good points. And of course I've acknowledged the anti-gringo sentiment. But I haven't run across many Colombians who have flat-out disrespected me or lumped me with the "Ugly American" simply after learning of my nationality. Granted, many think I'm South American until I open my mouth and speak broken Spanish. So that helps in keeping a low profile. But your point is well-taken as it can just take one asshole who has no class and just rampages across an apartment complex for the short-term rental agreements to Americans to be invalidated.
During my last trip to Energy. I noticed a lot of new signs up in the elevators with notices of newly enacted police policies / rules governing partying, pay for play, and even smoking cigarettes on balconies. I hope more Americans understand that Medellin is not Las Vegas. And you should never treat it as such. Hopefully it can be preserved for a bit longer before the Ugly Americans ruin everything. Which they are so adept at doing in other parts of the world.
Stay safe bro.[/QUOTE]The new laws are crazy. The worst they can enter your property with no reason at all to search for what ever they seem to want to search for. Parties that disturb the neighbors are huge fines and get larger with each offense. Smoking, hookers strolling are all in this crazy cartoon advisory they sent out. Probably saw that in the building put up on the wall. Which reminds me why I don't buy inside residential towers with other Colombians living there. I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2009278]Why can't you be responsible enough to confirm the age yourself? Since when is it security's responsibility to confirm the age of guests of people who are staying in private apartments?[/QUOTE]Amen, ask to see there cedula. Take a photo of it email it to yourself. Better yet before they even come over ask to see there cedula tell them to send you a photo of it. The police arrested guys in one of our apartments one girl over was 17 the other 18. All of them were in cuffs. They were fully dressed chatting on couch, didn't matter its presumed the worst by the police. Neighbor saw a young girl and called the cops. It takes that much for a vacation to be ruined. This was 2 years ago. His fault for not being pro-activate to make sure they were the right age.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009504]I agree with you. I also assumed he meant re-confirming. It also dilutes the risk of a bullshit shakedown, assuming more than one party does not gang up on the punter.[/QUOTE]Precisely. Both you and El Mechanico are correct. The official establishments are in strict compliance with Colombian law. So if they violate the law by turning their eyes away from illegal activity their business model will be crushed. And they aren't about to let that happen for a gringo tourist. Having an additional screen (particularly from somebody skilled at discerning real IDs from fake IDs) is not a liability like some are making it out to be. But an extra layer of protection.
My sense is that the people who have issues w / this are likely those who are engaged in some illegal activity and thus don't want to go through any official channels. If you are engaging in legal activity with adult women who have the agency to represent themselves. There is nothing to be worried about.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009645] I'm not the sharpest crayon it took me 5 apartments lost before I realized the writing on the wall and then planned accordingly. Our apartments are all in weird walkups with no neighbors mostly. Second floor of a hotel, buy a small building only way to survive here. Which is so different then the coast. In both Cartagena and santa marta the administrator herself or himself have signed me into the building welcoming us. Not so much here in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.
For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.
That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2009640]30 minutes says he was dead in first report. Today they retract it and say he is alive. Crazy how they can just write whatever.[/QUOTE]
Gentlemen,
May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?
It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.
If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.
From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:
Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left.
It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.
It is not like that anymore and bad things like this unfortunate killing are what happen in environments like this with fewer women.
And for those of you in Cartagena, each girl at the clock tower has at least one "handler" watching her and you.
The girls cannot work the clock tower without a handler.
Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.
When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2009191][URL]https://www.minuto30.com/ciudadano-estadounidense-fue-asesinado-dentro-de-un-hotel-en-el-centro-de-medellin/357922/[/URL]
WTF? A stabbing & now a murder?
WTF is going on down there guys? Or is same incident as the stabbing but misreported (hopefully)?
El Mechanic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,
It is not like fifteen years ago when there were 10 women for every man here.
[/QUOTE]According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medellíand in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Demographics.
That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.
Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]
...
Men, heed my advice, I have no dog in this fight, I am not doing business in Colombia, heed my advice, go to Panama City or Campo Alegre to meet Colombian girls in a safe environment.
When you get back home alive you will be glad you did.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your post so don't take this the wrong way, but it's not different in Panama City. I know a guy who routinely buys tickets for Colombian hookers, sets them up with a room in Panama City, and meets up with them every night at Ashe club when they are done working. He's the handler, pimp, or novio or whatever the fuck you want to call it. I'm sure there are real independents in PC but it's not very different from what you get in Cartagena.
And the last time I went out with a group in Medellin it was two guys and four women with me joining them... This was in November.
Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?
I've never been to South America. Any of you guys who have experience in SA, or CA for that matter, what would you guys recommend?
I've mongered in Mexico and Asia most recently in Thailand a few weeks ago.
Thanks boys.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,
May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?
It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.
If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.
From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:
Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..[/QUOTE]
I am going to continue to live dangerously as you characterize it. This is because I don't believe that the sky is falling.
I agree with you that there are pimps in Colombia. I couldn't say whether there are more than 15 years ago or not but I don't personally notice a difference. Anyone who is worried should go where others say it's safe.
[QUOTE=StudPlayer;2009839]Gentlemen,
May I refer you back to my post of January 22,2017?
It is difficult to see into the future but it was obvious back then the Colombian scene was changing and more bad things were going to be happening and I wrote as much in my report of Jan. 22 2017, only a few weeks ago.
If you read my post of January 22 2017 it almost foretells this unfortunate news referenced below.
From someone who has lived in Colombia longer than almost anyone else on this forum, let me caution you how it is now:
Every local girl in Medellin is now chaperoned by at least two men and these men now keep a close eye on the few women left..[/QUOTE]
I believe this post based on the factual sources and based on my own experience.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2009962]According to the National Administrative Department of Statistics, Medellin had, by 2005, a population of 2,223,078 inhabitants, making it the second largest city in Colombia. The metropolitan area of Medelland in 2005 included 3,312,165 inhabitants. 46.7% of the population are male and 53.3% are female.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Demographics.
That's 6.6 more women then men per 100. So in a current population of around 3.7 million that's about 220,000 more women then men in Medellin area.
Colombia get around 3 million tourists a year, I think we'd hear about it if a large percentage were being killed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2009677]That's really messed up because they mentioned the guy's name in the initial report. His family could have gotten that information. Thank goodness no newspaper photographers got to the scene. Nothing is to grisly for the local papers.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. There has been a rash of motorcycle deaths. I mean like daily here, Las Palmas is right behind me, I sometimes here the crashes. The news shows the bodies. I laugh with the expat how I thought the USA censored to much. I kind of miss the censorship on dead bodies here. As for the guy that says go to panama over here. I don't agree with him. I live here, I mind my own business I leave my watch in a safe. I say please and thank you. I don't walk down deserted streets late at night. Panama is expensive. Girls in front of Marriott asking for $200 bucks. I miss the early 90's in panama. Everything even the octopus I love there got expensive.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2009658]Cartagena is becoming the same when it comes to chica friendly buildings. In January I was assured by the airbnb host I would have zero problems bringing overnight visitors over. The security at the building though gave me so much shit. The host was embaressed and tried to help me. Now I found a new building and a new host who also assured me that I can bring guests over night. I'm going next month and I'll see.
For Medellin, I always rent with no doorman in a small building over shops. I have the key and no one else.[/QUOTE]Wow about Cartagena. Wife and I just started going back there again. We stay at one of the Morros buildings for that pool those complexes have. But I wouldn't know about chica friendly because it's just us two or the family. But I believe it. When I checked into Morros Ulta or Morros 3 I had to wear a band on my arm and only people with the band were allowed in. As far as talent we were partying out by candella and there most have been 70 working girls right out front waiting to be picked up. Was a buyers market. Was hot as shit there, I always make some wrong turn when walking around the wall city, especially after a few rums.
[QUOTE=KeeperNight4;2009151]I caught the red-eye in last night and stayed at hotel Botero little place across the street for 45 Mill decide to stay another night for $24 I like the room very functional after reading these reports getting a little scared LOL.[/QUOTE]This is my spot when staying in centro. Can't get any closer to the airport shuttle and It also happens to be directly across from casa Yakuza. I also like how the rooms have a radio, nice touch.
I wouldn't be too scared there. The place is pretty mild IMO.
[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?[/QUOTE]Safety usually isn't much of a concern for someone until they run out of luck, then their whole perspective changes. But odds are good you will come home with all your skin if you don't go around drunk, stay away from the white powder, and don't walk around el centro in the downtown area at night.
I've made three long trips to Medellin, the latest in February, and with each trip the Facebook girls have gotten more unreliable, not showing for appointments and not answering their messages for days. I'm not sure if they are getting more offers with more gringos in town, or if they are like many of the girls in Costa Rica who only want to work when they badly need $.
I had some good experiences at the casas but the numbers as to girls working was noticeably down from last summer. Turnover is also slow in these venues, meaning you see the same girls over and over week after week. So I'm not all giddy about Medellin at the moment though I was after my first trip there. Something new is often quite interesting but again, we are talking perspective.
It certainly does not hurt to be nice to the security people. Always say Hello, to them. Thank them when they call you a taxi or check in one of your chicas. One time I had a bunch of extra bread sticks from Papa Johns. I gave it to the guard and you would have thought I gave him filet mignon. Some of these people do not have a lot to eat. Some of them barely have money to get home after work. I am sure they get paid the Colombian minimum or not much more. Tip them for good service. Or maybe toward the beginning of your trip to ensure good service. I have had good luck. My experience is primarily with the security at the Blux.
Another things that helps. If you know your girls well enough, suggest she dress a little more normally. I've had a few chicas show up in their barrio rat / hooker outfits on. It was embarrasing for the guard, for me, and for those who live there that saw us. Particularly when they leave in the morning wearing that slutty outfit from the night before.
[QUOTE=Combo;2009263]They might smile at you, but chances are they don't like you. They know what you're in their country for and they know you're paying these girls more than they make in a week. They will generate hate in a lot of men. That doesn't mean they won't do their job and be friendly with you.
You are certainly correct that you're better off being respectful and keeping a low profile. And obviously not bringing comuna rats into the building.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?.[/QUOTE]Brazil and Colombia have a similar homicide rate, Brazil at 24.6 dead per 100,000 and Colombia at 27.9/100,000.
For comparison Costa Rica is 10/100,000, US is 3.9/100,000 and Thailand is also 3.9.
Stay out of and away from a favela / barrio drug gang though and your chances get much better.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]
South America is definitely the deep end of the pool but Colombia does get 3 million tourists a year and you don't hear about many of them getting killed.
Killing tourists brings down a lot of heat.
State Dept: (for all of Colombia).
"Violence associated with crime is a threat throughout Colombia. During the period November 2014 to January 2016, there were several homicides of USA Citizens in connection with robberies, including armed robbery on streets and in taxi cabs, public transport, home invasions, and muggings. The victims represented a mix of tourists, long-term residents and persons with dual USA -Colombian citizenship."
The Medellin ones I read about- one resisted a armed robbery in a cab-65 yo, the other some kind of drug deal gone wrong it seemed.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings[/URL]
[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/colombia-travel-warning.html[/URL]
That is a good tip about the girls' attire. If you are ever around the casas at the beginning or end of their shifts you will notice the girls leave and arrive in clothing that blends in with anyone else on the street. The casas don't allow them to wear any provocative clothing outside the establishments.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2010105]It certainly does not hurt to be nice to the security people. Always say Hello, to them. Thank them when they call you a taxi or check in one of your chicas. One time I had a bunch of extra bread sticks from Papa Johns. I gave it to the guard and you would have thought I gave him filet mignon. Some of these people do not have a lot to eat. Some of them barely have money to get home after work. I am sure they get paid the Colombian minimum or not much more. Tip them for good service. Or maybe toward the beginning of your trip to ensure good service. I have had good luck. My experience is primarily with the security at the Blux.
Another things that helps. If you know your girls well enough, suggest she dress a little more normally. I've had a few chicas show up in their barrio rat / hooker outfits on. It was embarrasing for the guard, for me, and for those who live there that saw us. Particularly when they leave in the morning wearing that slutty outfit from the night before.[/QUOTE]
Hey all,
I'm planning a last minute trip to MDE between March 22- March 25. Can anyone help me out and be my tour guide for a day?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2009609]I've been using it for a couple of days and only found about two obvious prepagos, and one who insists she is not a prepago but come on. I keep asking them who ordered chicken "Mami, quien pidio pollo?" But that's not going over too well. Hey I thought it was a great ice breaker.
Reasonable price. I'm going to work on it some more. I keep getting women in their 40's looking for a serious relationship and shit.[/QUOTE]I'm telling you it worked for me. You need to search for what you want, age, body build, level of English, ect. Message them saying you think they are beautiful and you would like to meet them. If the message back, get their whatsapp number. Ask them if they would come see you. If yes, ask them if they will spend the night. Go ahead and cut to the chase. They will tell you Si or Nada. Ask them to send you sexy photos, they will. They will have friends they can bring too. Go ahead and set a price for time and type of service. I always asked if they did sexo oral natural. Most did. It was funny, even some of the girls that wouldn't come see me, recommended friends that would. You are going to get messages from 40-50 years old looking for a serious relationship. Delete them and move on. Pick out the ones you like and make a date. It really was that simple. Most of these girls were coming to me in Poblado from some of the poorer neighborhoods so they have to take the tram and a taxi or uber to get to you. But all were gorgeous, clean, dressed nice and very happy to be there. O don't really speak Spanish, but with google translate it was a breeze, online and in person. I can't be positive, but I got the impression they were all semi pros looking to have fun and pick up extra cash. I don't think any of the ones I saw worked in a strip club or casa. They all had regular jobs and went to school. Ages 19-24. We are 55, 70 & 70 years old. No problem at all.
Good luck and have fun.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2010005]I am going to continue to live dangerously as you characterize it. This is because I don't believe that the sky is falling.
I agree with you that there are pimps in Colombia. I couldn't say whether there are more than 15 years ago or not but I don't personally notice a difference. Anyone who is worried should go where others say it's safe.[/QUOTE]He's just celebrating "World The Sky is Falling Day. " It is observed in every mongering destination a few times each year. It's a fluid holiday that begins when the self-proclaimed foremost authority on an area has to pay 15% more than he paid 10 years ago.
Some people celebrate by fleeing to another destination that isn't observing the holiday. Others return home and hide under the bed. The majority just ignore the frantic half dozen who are preaching the apocalypse.
Just to add some details, Brazil have 25 cities on the top 50 cities with highest numbers of homicide. But, and there is a huge but for the crime rates in S. A. Most of them are drug related and on second place family related (same as in Europe, so don't get married). So as mentioned, keep away from "favelas" and other high crime areas (Barrios). I have been more than 30 times in South America and have never in my monger trips been in trouble with criminals (just once in Rio with corrupt police).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2010109]Brazil and Colombia have a similar homicide rate, Brazil at 24.6 dead per 100,000 and Colombia at 27.9/100,000.
For comparison Costa Rica is 10/100,000, US is 3.9/100,000 and Thailand is also 3.9.
Stay out of and away from a favela / barrio drug gang though and your chances get much better.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]
South America is definitely the deep end of the pool but Colombia does get 3 million tourists a year and you don't hear about many of them getting killed.
Killing tourists brings down a lot of heat.
State Dept: (for all of Colombia)...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dm605;2009990]Had been considering Colombia but given some of this news and this post perhaps I should look at Brazil or elsewhere? What's the consensus of the board?
I've never been to South America. Any of you guys who have experience in SA, or CA for that matter, what would you guys recommend?
I've mongered in Mexico and Asia most recently in Thailand a few weeks ago.
Thanks boys.[/QUOTE]Brasil, Colombia, Thailand, CR, etc. The thing all these places have in common is lots of poor, attractive women that need to make money to feed their kid (s). Along with this poverty comes danger. If you didn't have the poverty (and danger), you'd unlikely have the hot girls willing to have sex with you for so little.
If you want risk-free mongering, why not do the FKKs in Germany? They are fantastic. Personally, I like destinations with balmy weather in Dec through April, so S. America or Asia is more my style. And if you exercise due caution you can minimize (buy not eliminate) your risk.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2010347]He's just celebrating "World The Sky is Falling Day. " It is observed in every mongering destination a few times each year. It's a fluid holiday that begins when the self-proclaimed foremost authority on an area has to pay 15% more than he paid 10 years ago.
Some people celebrate by fleeing to another destination that isn't observing the holiday. Others return home and hide under the bed. The majority just ignore the frantic half dozen who are preaching the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]Yup. Some things have indeed gotten worse, but some things have gotten better also. For example, it's amazing how much the restaurant scene has improved in MDE. I actually look forward to sampling the excellent restaurants now. That would have been laughable 6 or 8 years ago.
[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2010083]This is my spot when staying in centro. Can't get any closer to the airport shuttle and It also happens to be directly across from casa Yakuza. I also like how the rooms have a radio, nice touch.
I wouldn't be too scared there. The place is pretty mild IMO.[/QUOTE]Highest murder rate is in el centro.
Ya, you can't be rolling around drunk but the streets change drastically from day time to evening when the shops close up. All the, druggies and homeless invade.
In centro you have to know explicitly where you can and can't go. What street and how far down the street.
That was very funny. You made me laugh out loud. Like most good comedy, there is a lot of truth in what you said. To be totally fair, I can see how somebody who might be from an isolated rural area could get tripped up in a rough part of any city. There is a Medellin compromise for the nervous set. There is the famous gringo hotel / casa in Poblado. From what I read, they stock the pond with girls and do everything but hold your dick while you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], so leaving the building is optional until it's time to get back on the plane and go home.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2010347]He's just celebrating "World The Sky is Falling Day." It is observed in every mongering destination a few times each year. It's a fluid holiday that begins when the self-proclaimed foremost authority on an area has to pay 15% more than he paid 10 years ago.
Some people celebrate by fleeing to another destination that isn't observing the holiday. Others return home and hide under the bed. The majority just ignore the frantic half dozen who are preaching the apocalypse.[/QUOTE]
This new cell phone laws pain. Can anyone recommend an economical navigation tool. I really like Centro everything is close and I feel well priced and the food is great. What could be much different in paying more. Diamonds in a coal mine. I guess Yakuza does not supply lube. Hope I don't die.
[QUOTE=Combo;2010421]
Yup. Some things have indeed gotten worse, but some things have gotten better also. For example, it's amazing how much the restaurant scene has improved in MDE. I actually look forward to sampling the excellent restaurants now. That would have been laughable 6 or 8 years ago.[/QUOTE]Something is always changing. You lose some good things and get different things to replace them. You just have to move with the changes.
I was ready to end my vacation with a bang! So I decided I'd go all out on my last night in Medellin.
I scoured the website [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com[/URL] to see what I could find. I spent a good 4 or 5 hours the day before I went out contacting chicas through whatsapp to see what the best deal I could get was. I contacted so many chicas that day.
Here's what I found. 3 WG for 500,000 each from 10 pm - 6 am. (They stayed until 10 am really). I figure if I go downtown next time I could probably find some street meat that would go cheaper. I I found other deals where two WG were asking for 2,000,000 for the whole night. As opposed to 3 asking for 1,500,000 for the night.
Anyways.
My request was that I'd have them for that time period stated above, we'd go out all night, party, fuck later and they would do some lesbian action. I pressed my luck and one of them was able to do anal as well.
Everything was awesome that night. Must have been the best night in my life so far.
It started off in my hotel. Two came 20 minutes late and the last one came an hour later. I brought the first two up to my room to ensure that they knew what was about to go down. I layed it out for them. I would pay them half now and half when the job was done. I told them we'd go out, party, do drugs & alcohol, then get a room at Ibiza with a jaccuzzi to fuck later, plus I wanted to see some lesbian action. They agreed and we went out.
Went to a club around 11 pm and started drinking / partying there. The third chica that was late just met us at the club. I even let some other patrons entertain my girls by letting them dance with them / buy drinks for them, as I knew they'd come back to me later. It was great and I felt like a big pimp lending out my chicas throughout the night. The energy the chicas had was awesome and was glad I got them to come with me.
Around 2 am we switched clubs as the current one was closing and went to another one that stayed open later. We partied until 4 am and that's when I decided it was time. Time to fuck. We went to the all famous fuck hotel Ibiza. I got a large room with a Jaccuzi big enough to fit all 4 of us in. I made them all shower and get naked. Not going into too many juicy sex details but basically we fucked for a few hours around the hotel and in the jaccuzi and napped for about another hour before they left. No condom switching (except for when I did anal with the one girl).
That's my report I hope you liked it. If you have any feedback or questions let me know.
Whats up fam!! I'm in Medellin memorial day weekend. I have an apt booked. But ID like to find a chica friendly hotel in poblado for back up purposes. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Gracias!
So we've had a couple of reports of people with good luck on CC, and others who had a hard time getting connections. I initially just acted like myself and put a couple of normal photos up there. I got some replies and interests sent to me. I wanted to see if I could get more.
I updated my photos to include travel photos around the world, and lied on my profile and claimed to visit Colombia often to look after my "investments. " Response rate is already up. Fucking gold diggers, hahaha.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2010598]Whats up fam!! I'm in Medellin memorial day weekend. I have an apt booked. But ID like to find a chica friendly hotel in poblado for back up purposes. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Gracias![/QUOTE]Here you go. Just be sure you make a reservation for two people so you won't have to pay a 100,000 COP chica fee:
[URL]http://en.siteshotel.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JGomez90;2010492]I was ready to end my vacation with a bang! So I decided I'd go all out on my last night in Medellin.
I scoured the website [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com[/URL] to see what I could find. I spent a good 4 or 5 hours the day before I went out contacting chicas through whatsapp to see what the best deal I could get was. I contacted so many chicas that day.
Here's what I found. 3 WG for 500,000 each from 10 pm - 6 am. (They stayed until 10 am really). I figure if I go downtown next time I could probably find some street meat that would go cheaper. I I found other deals where two WG were asking for 2,000,000 for the whole night. As opposed to 3 asking for 1,500,000 for the night.
Anyways.
My request was that I'd have them for that time period stated above, we'd go out all night, party, fuck later and they would do some lesbian action. I pressed my luck and one of them was able to do anal as well.
Everything was awesome that night. Must have been the best night in my life so far.
It started off in my hotel. Two came 20 minutes late and the last one came an hour later. I brought the first two up to my room to ensure that they knew what was about to go down. I layed it out for them. I would pay them half now and half when the job was done. I told them we'd go out, party, do drugs & alcohol, then get a room at Ibiza with a jaccuzzi to fuck later, plus I wanted to see some lesbian action. They agreed and we went out.
Went to a club around 11 pm and started drinking / partying there. The third chica that was late just met us at the club. I even let some other patrons entertain my girls by letting them dance with them / buy drinks for them, as I knew they'd come back to me later. It was great and I felt like a big pimp lending out my chicas throughout the night. The energy the chicas had was awesome and was glad I got them to come with me.
Around 2 am we switched clubs as the current one was closing and went to another one that stayed open later. We partied until 4 am and that's when I decided it was time. Time to fuck. We went to the all famous fuck hotel Ibiza. I got a large room with a Jaccuzi big enough to fit all 4 of us in. I made them all shower and get naked. Not going into too many juicy sex details but basically we fucked for a few hours around the hotel and in the jaccuzi and napped for about another hour before they left. No condom switching (except for when I did anal with the one girl).
That's my report I hope you liked it. If you have any feedback or questions let me know.[/QUOTE]If if was the best time of your life, then congratulations. You probably could have saved some money, but you got the experience you were looking for.
My question, why pay half up front? With what you gave them, they could have skipped out after the first round of drinks and still be ahead for the night.
It also reads like you got 3 independent strangers. If so, it seems risky. What if none got along? For about the same price you could have used an escort agency and got 3 who worked together, or found 1 willing to bring friends.
At least you enjoyed yourself.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2010744]If if was the best time of your life, then congratulations. You probably could have saved some money, but you got the experience you were looking for.
My question, why pay half up front? With what you gave them, they could have skipped out after the first round of drinks and still be ahead for the night.
It also reads like you got 3 independent strangers. If so, it seems risky. What if none got along? For about the same price you could have used an escort agency and got 3 who worked together, or found 1 willing to bring friends.
At least you enjoyed yourself.[/QUOTE]Your right I probably could have gotten it cheaper if I just went downtown and found some girls, which I have done in the past. I think escort agencies are much more expensive if I wanted 3 girls all night though. I thought paying half now and half later would be fair and luckily nothing went wrong on that. We all had fun going out and partying, not a dull moment.
I should have cleared this one up though. The ad that I contacted was advertising a threesome and I asked if they had another friend, in which they did. They were all friends with each other, not prior to the night I met them.
Can someone give an update on average costs for full service. Casas, strip-clubs, street pickup (lleras, San Diego, centro, mayorista), escort website, surfing (facebook, tinder)? Just taking a bit of a poll.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2004951]Will this get a natural 10 or a surgery 10?[/QUOTE]There's no such thing as a surgery 10.
Sure there is, you are either a 10 in looks or not, how you got there is somewhat irrelevant.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=HBoy54;2010795]There's no such thing as a surgery 10.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VegasVic;2010789]Can someone give an update on average costs for full service. Casas, strip-clubs, street pickup (lleras, San Diego, centro, mayorista), escort website, surfing (facebook, tinder)? Just taking a bit of a poll.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been here for a week, here is some fresh data:
Casa, New Life: paid 50 k cop today for a 30 min session. They give a discount for 60 min but don't remember details. Prices are now posted on the wall.
Casa, Energy: was there yesterday and paid 140 k cops for what they call "completo". I have been to Energy so many times and I was never impressed. This time, I lucked out as I had a session with a beauty, but close to 80% of the girls there were fat, IMO.
Mansion girls and FB girls: It is still 150 k pesos for GND girls, but 200 k cops for girls who think they are eye candy. The session usually last an hour at least, and more once you establish a connection with the girl.
My central redlight girls were 30,000 p, my [URL]SeekingArrangements.com[/URL] dates were 300,000 p all night, my all night pickups at 2 centro strip clubs were 240,000 p and 300,000 p, 1/2 HR at Yakuza was 40,000 p I think.
[QUOTE=VegasVic;2010789]Can someone give an update on average costs for full service. Casas, strip-clubs, street pickup (lleras, San Diego, centro, mayorista), escort website, surfing (facebook, tinder)? Just taking a bit of a poll.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Were the other girls worth 3 or 4 times the cost of the New Life girls?
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2011104]I have been here for a week, here is some fresh data:
Casa, New Life: paid 50 k cop today for a 30 min session. They give a discount for 60 min but don't remember details. Prices are now posted on the wall.
Casa, Energy: was there yesterday and paid 140 k cops for what they call "completo". I have been to Energy so many times and I was never impressed. This time, I lucked out as I had a session with a beauty, but close to 80% of the girls there were fat, IMO.
Mansion girls and FB girls: It is still 150 k pesos for GND girls, but 200 k cops for girls who think they are eye candy. The session usually last an hour at least, and more once you establish a connection with the girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2011104]I have been here for a week, here is some fresh data:
Casa, New Life: paid 50 k cop today for a 30 min session. They give a discount for 60 min but don't remember details. Prices are now posted on the wall.
Casa, Energy: was there yesterday and paid 140 k cops for what they call "completo". I have been to Energy so many times and I was never impressed. This time, I lucked out as I had a session with a beauty, but close to 80% of the girls there were fat, IMO.
Mansion girls and FB girls: It is still 150 k pesos for GND girls, but 200 k cops for girls who think they are eye candy. The session usually last an hour at least, and more once you establish a connection with the girl.[/QUOTE]Ugh. Last time I was at that place they looked like a bunch of humanoid catfish with wigs on. They looked liked soulless rubber automotrons who've unenthusiastically sh. It out 12 kids each and are awaiting for a swift ending. 99.9% of the clients were eager tattoo from fantasy island looking Colombians on their lunch break, and I had to giggle at the bus stop ad about gringo sex tourism as I walked toward the metro. If ISIS shot a scud missile with mustard gas in these girls plastic asses I wouldn't drop a load to put out the flames they are really that bad.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2011125]Were the other girls worth 3 or 4 times the cost of the New Life girls?[/QUOTE]Apples and oranges do to speak. The casas are for daytime sex, something to set you up before lunch. Mansion is more high end late evening entertainment.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2011091]Sure there is, you are either a 10 in looks or not, how you got there is somewhat irrelevant.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]Have to agree on that one. It's rare because most getting surgery have esteem issues that silicone won't fix. So they keep going back thinking "just one more" implant will fix it.
I'm remembering a stripper in Albuquerque. Not only was she a knockout from head to toe, who made a 3 minute lap dance more sensual than a honeymoon, she also had am the sweetest personality. I knew her 2 years before learning she had a boob job.
I guess you need to be a 10 before the surgery to be a 10 after.
LOL, the place does strike me as a bit of a factory. Like anywhere else there are some gems from time to time but the sheer size of the place and quantity of employees makes me expect much better options than are available there. It's a very popular place all the same.
[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2011159]Ugh. Last time I was at that place they looked like a bunch of humanoid catfish with wigs on. They looked liked soulless rubber automotrons who've unenthusiastically sh. It out 12 kids each and are awaiting for a swift ending. 99.9% of the clients were eager tattoo from fantasy island looking Colombians on their lunch break, and I had to giggle at the bus stop ad about gringo sex tourism as I walked toward the metro. If ISIS shot a scud missile with mustard gas in these girls plastic asses I wouldn't drop a load to put out the flames they are really that bad.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that. I was asking about the girls specifically. Leaving out the time of day, are the girls you find at the "late night high end" place 3 to 4 times better than the girls at the casas? I leave out the time of day because it's not hard to get a daytime casa girl to visit you at night.
[QUOTE=Jan156;2011252]Apples and oranges do to speak. The casas are for daytime sex, something to set you up before lunch. Mansion is more high end late evening entertainment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JGomez90;2010492]I scoured the website [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com[/URL] to see what I could find. I contacted so many chicas that day.
Here's what I found. 3 WG for 500,000 each from 10 pm - 6 am. (They stayed until 10 am really). I figure if I go downtown next time I could probably find some street meat that would go cheaper. I I found other deals where two WG were asking for 2,000,000 for the whole night. As opposed to 3 asking for 1,500,000 for the night.
Everything was awesome that night. Must have been the best night in my life so far.
It started off in my hotel. Two came 20 minutes late and the last one came an hour later...
Went to a club around 11 pm and started drinking / partying there. The third chica that was late just met us at the club...
Around 2 am we switched clubs as the current one was closing and went to another one that stayed open later. We partied until 4 am and that's when I decided it was time...
That's my report I hope you liked it. If you have any feedback or questions let me know.[/QUOTE]The thing I got from your post is that you were truly happy & satisfied. So I tip my hat off to you. Nice work! Although I do wish I had your budget. LOL Having fun with chicas is actually more complex than it may seem, there is a system / culture for prepagos or semi-pros and frankly almost any girl who isn't practicing celibacy in Colombia, its not as simple as throwing cash around.
I've found preparation is key and you did your legwork and got rewarded. So many girls will not show up or not respond so its always best to have many girls in mind and just go with the flow, great example was how you said that one girl was an hour late, yet you just went with it and had a great time. Girls are girls and whether its a hardened prepago or casual curious Colombiana, the rules for females still apply. Expect the unexpected, and they love to party. Have fun with them, always treat them like the beautiful women they are. I am very happy for you.
I've learned that if a chica doesn't have whatsapp and responds, I don't bother. I also use [URL]www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia.[/URL] Having at least 10 contacts and better 20 or so. In your phone is a great help.
I'm returning to Medellin in April, so anybody can PM me if they want any info. I like to get private apartments always, its easier for food & privacy and laundry. On my first trip I stumbled upon this guy named Barry for lodging and he is simply a gift from above. I use him every time, he is amazing: Barry Brachfeld 917-XXXX304 he uses whatsapp. I have no connection to this guy, only that he helped me my first time to Medellin and he is simply the best. Everything with him is so easy.
Just a random thought on overnights with chicas. Although I prefer more time then less with a girl. The overnight is a really expensive way to go, the girl sees herself as an hourly worker, so you get little discount there. Colombian men usually do an hour or even a half hour and I've learned there's merit to that. Girls are used to it so its no problem.
Lets say you find 4 girls who you think are 10's, well most will do an hour from 100 K to 200 K pesos, and you visit them and get right down to it. That way you have 4 occasions with 4 different super models for the same price as one who you actually only had sex with for a few hours maybe. Not saying nothing here, just what I've learned. I love to sit and know a girl and have drinks and dance and have dinner as well, I guess I've learned that girls are phookin expensive if they are a wife, GF or a prepago. The more time I spend with the chicas in Colombia the more I realize how being with women in general is an endless enigma.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2011343]Thanks for that. I was asking about the girls specifically. Leaving out the time of day, are the girls you find at the "late night high end" place 3 to 4 times better than the girls at the casas? I leave out the time of day because it's not hard to get a daytime casa girl to visit you at night.[/QUOTE]Mansion girls are GFE, where casa girls in general are not. Some casa girls will kiss or BBBJ for propina, but some wouldn't. At the mansion kissing and BBBJ are the norm. Most mansion girls are charging 200 K now, but to me is worth the extra $ for GFE, and in a more comfortable environment.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2011393]Mansion girls are GFE, where casa girls in general are not. Some casa girls will kiss or BBBJ for propina, but some wouldn't. At the mansion kissing and BBBJ are the norm. Most mansion girls are charging 200 K now, but to me is worth the extra $ for GFE, and in a more comfortable environment.[/QUOTE]Husker Dude, how did you learn of the price hike? Is this official or unofficial? I hope that with the price hike to $200 k they no longer demand the $20 k "taxi fare"!
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2011393]Mansion girls are GFE, where casa girls in general are not. Some casa girls will kiss or BBBJ for propina, but some wouldn't. At the mansion kissing and BBBJ are the norm. Most mansion girls are charging 200 K now, but to me is worth the extra $ for GFE, and in a more comfortable environment.[/QUOTE]Husker dude,
Were there any couples at the mansion when you visited. I used to follow your posts on FOD and my wife and I felt very comfortable there and at blackbeards. Any advice would be appreciated. BTW, we have a friend in common from FOD.
Feel free to I'm.
[QUOTE=Lou32;2011407]Husker Dude, how did you learn of the price hike? Is this official or unofficial? I hope that with the price hike to $200 k they no longer demand the $20 k "taxi fare"![/QUOTE]There's never been an "official" price at the Mansion. It's whatever you and the girl agree on. 150 K pesos has more or less been the "norm" for quite a while. Some girls have convinced some guys that 200 K is now the norm. I just got back from MDE and most were happy with 150 K (and I'm pretty picky). If you're timid around women or if you haven't been laid in months, you're likely to pay more.
Regarding the taxi -- if the girl visits the house specifically to see you, it's customary to pay her taxi fare on arrival. If she's already in the house when you pick her, her taxi is irrelevant.
OK, thanks, now I get it. It's the kissing and cuddling.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2011393]Mansion girls are GFE, where casa girls in general are not. Some casa girls will kiss or BBBJ for propina, but some wouldn't. At the mansion kissing and BBBJ are the norm. Most mansion girls are charging 200 K now, but to me is worth the extra $ for GFE, and in a more comfortable environment.[/QUOTE]
Hello gents,
How safe is the nightlife and p4 p like in Mayorista? I haven't seen any reports on it recently in the last twenty or so pages. I google viewed and I could see streetwalkers in front of a strip of love motels. Do these streetwalkers get more plentiful at night (I'm assuming they do), and do they mingle with the crowd at the bars?
I can't blend in. My spanish is not good enough. Most people assume I'm not from Colombia. This is no problem in El Poblado at night, but I am concerned in other areas of Medellin it puts a target on my head. Also I can't do 100 pushups like Wolf.
[QUOTE=Combo;2011431]There's never been an "official" price at the Mansion. It's whatever you and the girl agree on. 150 K pesos has more or less been the "norm" for quite a while. Some girls have convinced some guys that 200 K is now the norm. I just got back from MDE and most were happy with 150 K (and I'm pretty picky). If you're timid around women or if you haven't been laid in months, you're likely to pay more.
Regarding the taxi -- if the girl visits the house specifically to see you, it's customary to pay her taxi fare on arrival. If she's already in the house when you pick her, her taxi is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]All prices are unofficial at the mansion. What everyone says is true. 150 K is the norm for chicas just sitting around. 20 K is for taxi. Some did ask for 200 k. 200 K includes taxi. I pulled most of my girls in at the times I wanted through FB messenger. I didn't't want to fool with smaller bills since the ATM's just spit out 50 K bills. I was just there last week and I got about 3000 K /$1 I figured out after I got home.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2011453]Hello gents,
How safe is the nightlife and p4 p like in Mayorista? I haven't seen any reports on it recently in the last twenty or so pages. I google viewed and I could see streetwalkers in front of a strip of love motels. Do these streetwalkers get more plentiful at night (I'm assuming they do), and do they mingle with the crowd at the bars?
I can't blend in. My spanish is not good enough. Most people assume I'm not from Colombia. This is no problem in El Poblado at night, but I am concerned in other areas of Medellin it puts a target on my head. Also I can't do 100 pushups like Wolf.[/QUOTE]Mayorista is fairly straightforward. Everyone hangs around outside or the girls sit inside when they feel a bit lazy. You don't really need a lot of Spanish, even nodding affirmatively and agreeing a price by counting on your fingers or showing them the money would get you laid. Some bars they mingle a bit (or hit on you), some don't bother so much. You have to bargain with them. Then they'll take you to an upstairs or nearby upstairs for some average business. Pretty safe area. Evening scene, so later than the casas and earlier, more or less, than Mansion. Not so much happening daytime when I've been, if anything. Easy to find, Metro and walk in a straight line and it appears on the left hand side. If you need to eat something semi-decent instead of Mayorista food, go a bit further and cross over, civvie area. Whether Mayorista is worth the walk from the metro or the taxi fare there is another matter.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2011453]Hello gents,
How safe is the nightlife and p4 p like in Mayorista? I haven't seen any reports on it recently in the last twenty or so pages. I google viewed and I could see streetwalkers in front of a strip of love motels. Do these streetwalkers get more plentiful at night (I'm assuming they do), and do they mingle with the crowd at the bars?
I can't blend in. My spanish is not good enough. Most people assume I'm not from Colombia. This is no problem in El Poblado at night, but I am concerned in other areas of Medellin it puts a target on my head. Also I can't do 100 pushups like Wolf.[/QUOTE]IMHO, I would avoid hobbying in Mayorista since you don't speak fluent Espanol and don't look like a local. There have been robberies of tourist gringos and locals too. Why risk it! I went there only once before, did alright. But I speak Espanol, and have not returned for a second visit yet. Wasn't to impressed with the talent I saw that night. Have fun, but need to feel safe!
Thanks for the posts about Mayorista.
My Spanish is fine but I don't pass for a local. I don't speak as fast or as fluently as the locals but can have conversations just fine.
From what I gather Mayorista is a strip of love motels / brothels with women standing outside. I've read somewhere else it's for the truckers and laborers who work at the market nearby, but the prices seem higher (50-70 k for short time). What time does the nightlife start? 7 pm?
[QUOTE=Culture;1993250]What is up with Colombian women and the stench? Anyone who has been here, I am sure knows what I am talking about! At FKK's in Europe, no girl smells down there (at least none I've had). In Colombia, it is rare to find a girl that smells fresh down there. What is the problem? Are they not good at hygiene? Should you take a shower with them before and rub them down with some special soap? It is really annoying.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, not my recent experience, my sample: 1 Casa chick, 2 strip club girls-TLN, 2 SeekingArrangements dates-TLN & 4 Centro redlight-block girls and none of them had a odor other than sweet. I didn't go down on the Casa chick or the Centro girls but did the other 4 so I got up and close.
Sir, (slap, slap w / glove) for the Honor of Colombian Women, Pistols or Swords? LOL.
Just where were you pulling chicks?
Question: What are the best love hotels? I am looking for something upper end (with respect to the category) with jacuzzi and any other special features. I found a review site a few years ago but can no longer locate it. There appeared to be far more of these establishments then I've ever seen in person.
Tips.
I will preface that neither of these are paid placements and I receive no benefit from any of the things mentioned. If you are going for a short time quick visit (to the country or for the hobby), skip these tips.
1. Culture Smart: Colombia. This is a series of books for about 50 countries which gives insight into unique cultural aspects of the country & the Colombia book is no exception. I recommend these for any type of travel (business, pleasure, combo) where you're staying more than just a few days and want to understand where you are visiting rather than just seeing it. I've often shared what I've read in these books with people I'm visiting and often get the response "I've never looked at xxxxx in my culture that way, but that is completely accurate and very insightful".
2. If you have intermediate or better Spanish, learn a few piropos. They will serve you well with semi-pro / non-pro. Google will show you plenty of examples with translations. And creating your own will work too. They're significantly different from pickup lines you may be used to.
3. My best tip. Chaturbate ('chatur' in Colombia). This has become incredibly popular in Colombia -- probably well over 10.000 users with a few hundred online at any given time. There is a particular concentration of users in MDE, BOG & CLO. MDE seems to have a higher ratio of Chatur per person than anywhere on the planet. You'll find Colombianas of all ages, types. SP / NP / neither. Most, but not all, are there for 'necesidad economica' and are broadcasting from a studio (which takes 50% of their earnings). You will find varying levels of english fluency. It will help if you have some yourself and / or use a translator. You'll also want to register and buy some tokens. In private, you can speed date and get to know them. If you tell many of them that you'll be visiting, they may volunteer to show you their city before you can even ask. If they don't volunteer, just tell them a few things you are interested in seeing. You'll be able to get whatsapp or twitter but you need to be very discrete about it as it is often prohibited by the studio and they can be monitored. Cam2 cam can be beneficial from multiple perspectives. There are a lot of benefits to this vs CC or anuncios or twitter.
Want to hear your feedback on these. And your best tips.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2011740]Question: What are the best love hotels? I am looking for something upper end (with respect to the category) with jacuzzi and any other special features. I found a review site a few years ago but can no longer locate it. There appeared to be far more of these establishments then I've ever seen in person.[/QUOTE]This page has a drop down menu that will show you most the nice Love Hotels:
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/[/URL]
The one it's on has some nice room, 3 D Suites.
I like this red one: (pic).
Hawaii Suites looks nice:
They even have this Presidental Suite: (pic).
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/motel-hawaii-suite/habitaciones-con-jacuzzi/[/URL]
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2011740]Question: What are the best love hotels? I am looking for something upper end (with respect to the category) with jacuzzi and any other special features.[/QUOTE]Motel Eros in centro is supposed to be higher quality.
Most of the hookers you meet, especially the street walkers, would be able to direct you.
Eros was't bad, not quite as nice as these photos, at least my room (didn't really have any cool lighting or even dimmers or cool art) it did have a nice steam room and a hot tub with the jacuzzi part broken. Don't think it had A / C either but nice fully stocked mini bar. The girl was impressed anyway. At least Eros is easy to find, Calle 54 and Carr 54, with a inner courtyard for taxi drop off. I think 4 hrs was 50,000 p + whatever you use from mini bar.
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/habitaciones-con-jacuzzi/[/URL]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2011766]Motel Eros in centro is supposed to be higher quality.
Most of the hookers you meet, especially the street walkers, would be able to direct you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KeeperNight4;2010456]This new cell phone laws pain. Can anyone recommend an economical navigation tool. I really like Centro everything is close and I feel well priced and the food is great. What could be much different in paying more. Diamonds in a coal mine. I guess Yakuza does not supply lube. Hope I don't die.[/QUOTE]What new cell phone law?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2011841]What new cell phone law?[/QUOTE]Having to register phone with cedula.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2011740]Question: What are the best love hotels? I am looking for something upper end (with respect to the category) with jacuzzi and any other special features. I found a review site a few years ago but can no longer locate it. There appeared to be far more of these establishments then I've ever seen in person.
Tips.
I will preface that neither of these are paid placements and I receive no benefit from any of the things mentioned. If you are going for a short time quick visit (to the country or for the hobby), skip these tips.
1. Culture Smart: Colombia. This is a series of books for about 50 countries which gives insight into unique cultural aspects of the country & the Colombia book is no exception. I recommend these for any type of travel (business, pleasure, combo) where you're staying more than just a few days and want to understand where you are visiting rather than just seeing it. I've often shared what I've read in these books with people I'm visiting and often get the response "I've never looked at xxxxx in my culture that way, but that is completely accurate and very insightful".
2. If you have intermediate or better Spanish, learn a few piropos. They will serve you well with semi-pro / non-pro. Google will show you plenty of examples with translations. And creating your own will work too. They're significantly different from pickup lines you may be used to.
3. My best tip. Chaturbate ('chatur' in Colombia). This has become incredibly popular in Colombia -- probably well over 10.000 users with a few hundred online at any given time. There is a particular concentration of users in MDE, BOG & CLO. MDE seems to have a higher ratio of Chatur per person than anywhere on the planet. You'll find Colombianas of all ages, types. SP / NP / neither. Most, but not all, are there for 'necesidad economica' and are broadcasting from a studio (which takes 50% of their earnings). You will find varying levels of english fluency. It will help if you have some yourself and / or use a translator. You'll also want to register and buy some tokens. In private, you can speed date and get to know them. If you tell many of them that you'll be visiting, they may volunteer to show you their city before you can even ask. If they don't volunteer, just tell them a few things you are interested in seeing. You'll be able to get whatsapp or twitter but you need to be very discrete about it as it is often prohibited by the studio and they can be monitored. Cam2 cam can be beneficial from multiple perspectives. There are a lot of benefits to this vs CC or anuncios or twitter.
Want to hear your feedback on these. And your best tips.[/QUOTE]There is a guide to love motels on the Medellin Living site. Google will take you right to it.
Comments on Tip #3:
There are several webcam sites, besides Chaturbate and you can find quite a few Colombianas on each of them. The largest number of them are in Medellin and there are several studios in Medellin. A couple of the studios are quite large, large enough to have their own booth at adult expo shows in the US and elsewhere.
The amount the studio takes varies from studio to studio. The more successful studios have a sizable investment in each model. You'll not find many takers from those studios, and if you do, expect a big price tag. The reason is simple: money. A popular webcam model is pulling $200 - $2000 USD in 4 hours. That puts them from $40 k to $400 k USD per year. All without having to touch a dick.
The ones who are willing to date are generally either independent or working for an estrato 2 studio, hoping to make $20/ night. They are available, many are already advertising in mileroticos.
If you're hoping to pull one of the top webcam models, bring a lot of game, a lot of patience and a lot of money. Most have at least one webcam sugar daddy spending big bucks and asking nothing in return, often dropping from $50 to $250 at a time, several times each broadcast. I've watched one girl make almost $4 k in 5 hours.
I'd be thrilled if everyone here started hitting the cam sites trying to impress the models. It's money in my pocket. But I don't want to mislead you and say you have much chance to succeed.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2011889]Comments on Tip #3:
/snip/
A popular webcam model is pulling $200 - $2000 USD in 4 hours. That puts them from $40 k to $400 k USD per year. All without having to touch a dick.
The ones who are willing to date are generally either independent or working for an estrato 2 studio, hoping to make $20/ night. They are available, many are already advertising in mileroticos.
If you're hoping to pull one of the top webcam models, bring a lot of game, a lot of patience and a lot of money. Most have at least one webcam sugar daddy spending big bucks and asking nothing in return, often dropping from $50 to $250 at a time, several times each broadcast. I've watched one girl make almost $4 k in 5 hours.
I'd be thrilled if everyone here started hitting the cam sites trying to impress the models. It's money in my pocket. But I don't want to mislead you and say you have much chance to succeed.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to imply the top webcam models are available. Obviously not. There are +10.000 Colombiana webcamers online and only a small fraction earn anything remotely close to the amounts you mention. Unless those numbers are $COP. No doubt that some do earn money you mention. But there are plenty of gems among the rest.
If a girl has +10.000 followers and / or wants above the equivalent of US $1. 5/ min, then you probably should pass. If a girl starts hustling for upsell, then you can bail out. Some are on mileroticas, some aren't. Ditto CC. Point is that you'll get a preview prior to a trip. Ditto the chica. With mileroticas, CC or even in a line up, you are rolling the dice and this can be a way to increase the odds.
Like other approaches YMMV. However, I met a monger who did incredibly well with this approach in a few parts of Colombia (not MDE). I was able to replicate his success. In both instances it was for setting up temporary novia / TLN and not short term.
[QUOTE=KeeperNight4;2011847]Having to register phone with cedula.[/QUOTE]As everywhere in the world, I would expect lots of retailers, official or not, selling SIM cards preregistered with the name of someone. I have seen this not only in the 4th and 3rd world, but also in European countries. Therefore, why not in Colombia?
What I like of Colombia is that my old SIM card, bought many years ago, is not expiring, even if I don't use it for several months. I just top it up on my arrival to the BOG airport, [I]et voila[/I], my old Nokia phone ([I]flecha[/I] model) is operating.
[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I've been shooting private content for many cam models for 3-4 years. I'm totally ware the loot many of these girls pull down 4 k in 5 hours. No way. On CB a cam-girls basically makes a nickel per token. If they are working at studio 50% of that goes to the studio. Aka mobster boss especially for Russian and E. European cam-girls. To make 4 k would be 80,000 tokens. From as much as I know about industry, the elite top tier girls don't make this. There is one top tier girl from Colombia that I shot in Vegas at AVN week. She trolls Tinder with google 3 saying she is from various US cities big and very small. She uses tinder to market her cam biz. Yes there is the random [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. That pops in and throws down a 30000 token tip or much much more. Extremely rare!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2011889]There is a guide to love motels on the Medellin Living site. Google will take you right to it.
Comments on Tip #3:
There are several webcam sites, besides Chaturbate and you can find quite a few Colombianas on each of them. The largest number of them are in Medellin and there are several studios in Medellin. A couple of the studios are quite large, large enough to have their own booth at adult expo shows in the US and elsewhere.
The amount the studio takes varies from studio to studio. The more successful studios have a sizable investment in each model. You'll not find many takers from those studios, and if you do, expect a big price tag. The reason is simple: money. A popular webcam model is pulling $200 - $2000 USD in 4 hours. That puts them from $40 k to $400 k USD per year. All without having to touch a dick..[/QUOTE][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]
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[QUOTE=BlackPage;2012051]
What I like of Colombia is that my old SIM card, bought many years ago, is not expiring, even if I don't use it for several months. I just top it up on my arrival to the BOG airport, [I]et voila[/I], my old Nokia phone ([I]flecha[/I] model) is operating.[/QUOTE]Is that because of the phone company's SIM you use (Tigo, Movistar, Claro)?
I have a Tigo SIM and as far as I know my leftover data expires after a couple months.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2011889] Most have at least one webcam sugar daddy spending big bucks and asking nothing in return, often dropping from $50 to $250 at a time, several times each broadcast.[/QUOTE]Wow, who does that? What's the profile, someone who has lots of money but cannot risk a flight to SA; has lots of money but no idea of the scene the rest of the world has available? On the surface it sounds like LOSER. Poor f--ker. "dumbass".
I have a good friend who traveled with us one time and did not take to the lifestyle. He loves porn, love the ladies, always wants to get laid. Yet knowing what's available still opts for trying to find girls in his small town or travels to Vegas once in a while and spends a couple grand in strip clubs. It's beyond my comprehension.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012131]Wow, who does that? What's the profile, someone who has lots of money but cannot risk a flight to SA; has lots of money but no idea of the scene the rest of the world has available? On the surface it sounds like LOSER. Poor f--ker. "dumbass".
I have a good friend who traveled with us one time and did not take to the lifestyle. He loves porn, love the ladies, always wants to get laid. Yet knowing what's available still opts for trying to find girls in his small town or travels to Vegas once in a while and spends a couple grand in strip clubs. It's beyond my comprehension.[/QUOTE]There are a few different types that do that. Some are the lost romantics. They think they are buying the woman's love. Those are the sad cases because they don't have much money and put themselves deep in debt before they realize it. They usually end up getting jealous and possessive.
Another type are the whales. They have plenty of money and like to be seen as the boss. For them the kick is being the big man in the room. They usually last a long time. Jealousy isn't an issue, although they tend to compete against other big tippers. They tend to stick with one model.
The big spenders hit several models, they go on binges, spending a lot of money over a few weeks, then taking a break to save up more.
A lot of them have no social skills. They would be terrified of p4 p. Most couldn't even handle a strip club. Some are married and consider it allowed cheating. They get weird, want to leave their wife for some girl they've never met.
The majority don't spend much money, $20 to $50 a week. It's the type of porn they prefer. They are just bored, don't want to bother going out. It's something to do when not doing something else.
There are guys only looking for ladyboys, guys who want to be pegged, guys who want to be beaten and humiliated, guys who only want fat chicks, guys who only want grannies. There are guys who only want the ugluest, nastiest putas on the street, guys who only want anal, guys who only want bareback. I don't understand any of them either.
Fortunately, I don't need to understand why they do it, I just need to understand that they do it. Then I get to sit around with a bunch of hot chicas, teach them how to get more money and get paid for it.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012128]Is that because of the phone company's SIM you use (Tigo, Movistar, Claro)?
I have a Tigo SIM and as far as I know my leftover data expires after a couple months.[/QUOTE]Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012131]Wow, who does that? What's the profile, someone who has lots of money but cannot risk a flight to SA; has lots of money but no idea of the scene the rest of the world has available? On the surface it sounds like LOSER. Poor f--ker. "dumbass".
I have a good friend who traveled with us one time and did not take to the lifestyle. He loves porn, love the ladies, always wants to get laid. Yet knowing what's available still opts for trying to find girls in his small town or travels to Vegas once in a while and spends a couple grand in strip clubs. It's beyond my comprehension.[/QUOTE]Please don't bring your friend back.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2012152]Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?[/QUOTE]After 2-3 weeks you need to have cell phone registered using cedula. Some people say can register with USA Passport using 611 Customer service with claro. I'm still trying to figure it out.
It's a good hustle that's been around in various forms since the first cheap webcams and internet access. In the 90's you would find places around Latin America with a Internet access PCs in booths (sometimes with curtains for heavy porn watchers) and phone booths in the front room and a back room with girls doing cam gigs. The marketing changes but it's the same hustle. It works from many angles. Some girls prefer it because they know the worse they can catch is itchy pussy from the chair they sit in. LOL!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2011889]There is a guide to love motels on the Medellin Living site. Google will take you right to it.
Comments on Tip #3:
There are several webcam sites, besides Chaturbate and you can find quite a few Colombianas on each of them. The largest number of them are in Medellin and there are several studios in Medellin. A couple of the studios are quite large, large enough to have their own booth at adult expo shows in the US and elsewhere.
The amount the studio takes varies from studio to studio. The more successful studios have a sizable investment in each model. You'll not find many takers from those studios, and if you do, expect a big price tag. The reason is simple: money. A popular webcam model is pulling $200 - $2000 USD in 4 hours. That puts them from $40 k to $400 k USD per year..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2011453] Also I can't do 100 pushups like Wolf.[/QUOTE]Wakes up- "eh, uh, what?
Oh, that, I started last summer, could do 20 max-LOL- did them every night for a week and then added 5 more. Added 5 every week after till I got to 100. Not huge but bigger them most the local dudes, esp the poor ones who want to rob you & don't have a proper diet. Here's the stupid temp Panther tattoo my date got me in Parque Boston. That's the 5th floor of the Botero, by the elevator.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2012152]Could someone post some clarity on this? If I buy a prepaid card I now have to register with a cedula? Does this mean a passport or any form of ID (not Colombian)?[/QUOTE]I bought a SIM card from Tigo about a week ago, and they asked for ID. I handed them a copy of my passport (the page with the relevant info) and they accepted it.
Heading to Medellin next week. Unfortunately, I will not be staying at the mansion but want to check out the casa scene. If you guys have any casas you want to recommend that I should hit up, let me know and I will write a report on it. I speak fluid spanish so getting information about specific casas should not be a problem for me. I will mostly be using the forum and World Travel map as primary resources and probably what the cab drivers recommend as places to check out first.
Hi guys,
Just finished a fun tour of SE Asia (see my trip reports) and off to Medellin next.
I was wondering what part of town I should book in? I won't be bringing girls back. I'm going to be hosteling Airbnb but I need just a few good recommendations for parts of town.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2012278]dded 5 every week after till I got to 100. Not huge but bigger them most the local dudes, esp the poor ones who want to rob you & don't have a proper diet. [/QUOTE]Impressive, but not especially effective to counter those who cannot opt for the low-carb diet but have a 15 cm knife or gun in the back pocket.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012128]Is that because of the phone company's SIM you use (Tigo, Movistar, Claro)?
I have a Tigo SIM and as far as I know my leftover data expires after a couple months.[/QUOTE]It's that I bought my SIM card (Movistar) several years ago, when they did not force expiration after few months without using and topping up. Any SIM card bought today expires as yours. I am keeping my old SIM card as gold.
Also, others talk about registering the "cell phone" with an ID. I am not in Colombia now and I cannot check personally how it works, but I would reasonably say that it's the SIM CARD that you need to register, not certainly the phone. It's possible in theory to register the IMEI of a phone associating it to a legitimate ID, to prevent theft or illegal usage, but as far as I know nobody does that in the world. Even the "black list" of stolen phones, supposedly managed and shared by operators, is not effective to prevent frauds and thefts. If they steal your phone, you will use the manufacturer feature to lock it from remote.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2012272]It's a good hustle that's been around in various forms since the first cheap webcams and internet access. In the 90's you would find places around Latin America with a Internet access PCs in booths (sometimes with curtains for heavy porn watchers) and phone booths in the front room and a back room with girls doing cam gigs. The marketing changes but it's the same hustle. It works from many angles. Some girls prefer it because they know the worse they can catch is itchy pussy from the chair they sit in. LOL![/QUOTE]I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.
There are still the grubby little backroom, with a mattress on the floor and a cheap laptop, run by wannabe pimps, but they are struggling to make $50/ day.
I wouldn't call it a hustle. There's a market. Whenever there's a market, someone is going to take advantage of it. Medellin is a good spot to fill that market. Cost of living is low, available standard of living is high, there is an abundant supply of young, beautiful women and the sex tourism helps drive the women to the studios.
An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?
Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2012506]Impressive, but not especially effective to counter those who cannot opt for the low-carb diet but have a 15 cm knife or gun in the back pocket.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah if there's a weapon involved just hand over the money. I do t more for the girl's, on the Sugar Baby sites they see your pic too.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2012532]I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.[/QUOTE]Sounds incredible, almost ridiculous. But I guess it could be. It must be a little known secret or why wouldn't most of the best looking girls in MDE be doing it? $500 k x two years and she's done. House paid, money banked. Myself, I have never seen a webcam site.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2012532]
An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?
Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.[/QUOTE]She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2012636]She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.[/QUOTE]Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend? I knew a girl who would make decent money from me during a couple of my trips then act like she was broke within a couple of weeks. I knew she would see other guys as well so figured she was making plenty of money overall. I just could never understand how she would have spent all her money without paying for the things that were important- apartment, child, etc. I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2012636]She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.[/QUOTE]I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.
I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.
Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012652]Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend?[/QUOTE]It was pretty obvious at the start. She had his photos on her phone (lots of them), on facebook etc. She would say "good friend. " She wouldn't say "mi amigo. " It was a line he taught her to use with gringos. I know some of her family and they told me they knew he was always using her. I believe the term is 'gastar su ahorro' or 'spend her savings. ' I found it amusing they believe she had like a savings account with money in it. The girl never worked a day in her life. The thing about Colombians is they will accept a fantastical lie over looking at the truth. So their fake-boobed niece was actually working a respectable job despite always being on vacation somewhere, while the evil boyfriend never worked and spent her money. I think that was the fantasy her aunt had.
Anyway this was a long time ago. I didn't stay in touch.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012652] I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.[/QUOTE]
I'm not calling her a liar although she probably was. They probably managed their money like idiots and the novio likely had a drug problem.
EDIT: BTW, if you're wondering if theprepago you're fucking regularly has a boyfriend the answer is 'yes she does. she absolutely does.' If she has a kid then its the kids father. If she was married then its her ex husband who pops in and out of her life. If not then its some guy who is fucking her and some other girls. They always have a boyfriend. Every last one of them. Sometimes the boyfriend knows and sometimes he doesn't. Thats the only difference.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2012508]It's that I bought my SIM card (Movistar) several years ago, when they did not force expiration after few months without using and topping up. Any SIM card bought today expires as yours. I am keeping my old SIM card as gold.
Also, others talk about registering the "cell phone" with an ID. I am not in Colombia now and I cannot check personally how it works, but I would reasonably say that it's the SIM CARD that you need to register, not certainly the phone. It's possible in theory to register the IMEI of a phone associating it to a legitimate ID, to prevent theft or illegal usage, but as far as I know nobody does that in the world. Even the "black list" of stolen phones, supposedly managed and shared by operators, is not effective to prevent frauds and thefts. If they steal your phone, you will use the manufacturer feature to lock it from remote.[/QUOTE]If your phone sim is claro you need to register your unlocked cell phone if you didn't buy it from them. I started getting text messages that I was going to be blocked in 5 days if I didn't come in and register the phone. But I also had issues when I first got the sim card I did it with a drivers license. They used my street address as my first name. I became Jefferson in the system. Had to bring in a copy of that drivers license to get it changed. I am so set now. Tigo doesn't make you do this. Neither does the sim card you can buy at exito movil exito sim. Most carriers want to see ID to buy a sim card. Claro wants to see either bill of sale for US phone or they might block your IMEI.
[QUOTE=KeeperNight4;2012271]After 2-3 weeks you need to have cell phone registered using cedula. Some people say can register with USA Passport using 611 Customer service with claro. I'm still trying to figure it out.[/QUOTE]I went in to there office in one of the main malls in town. Took 5 minutes. USA passport was fine.
Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.
A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.
Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.
Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.
Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.
Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.
I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.
Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.
If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.
The camgirl topic pivoted into a few interesting different dimensions.
Just like there are prepagos from agencies on the upper end who ask in excess of US rates*, there are camgirls and sites on the high end. Livejasmin is certainly one example. Sure chatturbate has some stars as well, but unlike some sites, there is a huge cross section of all types there.
*of course there is a huge difference in raw material quality between US and COL for the same $.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2012665]I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.
I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.
Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.[/QUOTE]
Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2012736]Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.
A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.
Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.
Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.
Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.
Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.
I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.
Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.
If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You69Me;2013058]Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.[/QUOTE]No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.
[QUOTE=Bbrocs;2013097]No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.[/QUOTE]Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.
I'll be in Medellin from April 7 to April 23 so anybody can PM me if they wish to contact me for whatever.
About cell phones: I went to Claro in a Mall around San Diego, Medellin last December, bought a phone and sim no problem with my passport. Get the phones at a big Claro, etc. Mega center and have them do all the work setup or adding minutes. Its better than buying a phone at a Bodega.
About prepagos, excellent posts in the last few pages! One of the funnest things in the world is to have a stunning beauty in bed and you are all over her while she answers the phone and its her boyfriend and she speaks like she is at the Mall. Prepagos see their sex work as normal work, so calling a boyfriend from another man's bed is just like you calling your wife from the office. If a guy just pays the prepago and respects her it will be fine in most cases. Its when a gringo chooses to pry into her personal business or to get closer to her that all the problems for the gringo start. Many beautiful prepagos work only daytime hours so you wonder what they do at night. Probably not Bible study or puzzle building.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2013177]Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.[/QUOTE]100% correct. Phone store. Ok you go pay for that SIM card why I sit here and look at my what's app. Once you come back off that line I'll install your SIM card after I see your receipt. Just a extra un-needed step because of no trust. This is why families wait on three different lines at supermarket. I always get on the wrong line where the guy is putting minutes on phone and making a payment on his xito charge card. Going to the bank. Better bring a Magazine cause you can't use your phone while waiting. Still, I'm happier here then in the states where I'm invisible.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2013177]Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.
Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.[/QUOTE]The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2013224]The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Look at GDP per capita of Hong Kong vesus Colombia That says it all. It's like 5 times more.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2013440]Look at GDP per capita of Hong Kong vesus Colombia That says it all. It's like 5 times more.[/QUOTE]I do not mean to harp on this because I know it is not what the forum is about. But so many times I am in line waiting to check out for something and I cannot believe how slowly even the checkers move to ring up groceries. How can the Colombians be so patient?
Sometimes I ask a girl if she will stay at least as long as it takes to check out at a grocery store just to know she will be with me for an hour or two.
Heading to Medellin next Wednesday with mis hermanos for primero tiempo( My brothers for the first time). Any good local bars to check out. Habla poco. Gracias amigos.
[QUOTE=Questner;1996272]Fuck so called strip clubs. The girls are mostly rude obnoxious worn out hags. There is almost no dancing. The clubs are outdated, uncomfortable chairs. There no point to give them any business. There are very rare exceptions to this. One lazy ***** dared to ask me for an unearned tip and when I coldly refused started insulting me. Then I just stood up and left to cool down. In a perfect world she would get a deserved response, but hey it's their country.[/QUOTE]What clubs were you at exactly?
I felt just the opposite, I loved their clubs, I was in 4 clubs in Centro- Barre Ejecutiva & Maracibo, Conijetas & Grille Nueva Avenida. (last one is next door to Conijetas) No cover, cheap drinks, enough cute chicks. Hey I only need one and their was 3+ hot ones each time in Ejecutiva & Conijetas, didn't pull from the other 2 places. Looked to be close to 50 girls at Conejitas on the Sat night I was there. And BE had 3 hotties on a Monday night!
Unlike the street girls or Casa girls I could sit and have a drink with a few girls and see who seemed more cool / sweet / into it / fun and who seemed a stone cold bit*h. (I suppose you could have a drink 1st with the street girls but it might cost more then the session. LOL) Added bonus seeing them semi-naked on stage for further examination. 50,000 club fee to leave. $16?
Much better for me then 12 girls walking by me in a Casa and I have to pick based on looks alone, less likely to find chemistry for the TLN girl that way especially.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2013465]I do not mean to harp on this because I know it is not what the forum is about. But so many times I am in line waiting to check out for something and I cannot believe how slowly even the checkers move to ring up groceries. How can the Colombians be so patient?
Sometimes I ask a girl if she will stay at least as long as it takes to check out at a grocery store just to know she will be with me for an hour or two.[/QUOTE]Glad I am not the only one that drove crazy, the Tienda-D1 on Carr51 next to Nutribarra in Centro I went in like 5 times and turned and left, 20-30 people in a slow moving line every time.
1 cash register open, 4 to 5 other employees standing strategically about the store for stock-loss prevention.
I go 3 blocks away to the TiendaD1 across from Parque Bolivar on Carr49 and it's empty, no line. The other one is right between 2 subway stations though.
So tip, if staying in Hotel Botero or close, walk to Parque Bolivar to shop.
It's the relative pace of progress. In regions where there are no supermarkets, the wait to buy the same goods is even longer because the buyers and sellers socialize and haggle during the transaction. In a more developed country like Hong Kong or Singapore, check out clerks can complete each transaction without asking questions that their Latin American counterparts have to ask:
- do you need a copy of your receipt?
- are you a member of our buyer's club?
- what is your telephone number?
- do you need a tax receipt?
- should I divide the total for you?
- is this a credit card or a debit card?
- what are the last 4 digits of the account number?
Honestly, I've purchased real estate with fewer conversations.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2013224]The waits at supermarkets in Medellin and Santo Domingo are ridiculous. I am in Hong Kong now and the line at the supermarket could be 15 persons deep and you will be out of there in 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tryntry;2011592]IMHO, I would avoid hobbying in Mayorista since you don't speak fluent Espanol and don't look like a local. There have been robberies of tourist gringos and locals too. Why risk it! I went there only once before, did alright. But I speak Espanol, and have not returned for a second visit yet. Wasn't to impressed with the talent I saw that night. Have fun, but need to feel safe![/QUOTE]Mayorista years ago used to be a lot better than it is know, however I don't consider it anymore dangerous than El Centro.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2013630]Mayorista years ago used to be a lot better than it is know, however I don't consider it anymore dangerous than El Centro.[/QUOTE]How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.
If you get bored at Mayorista I'd cab to Conejitas or Barre Ejectiva.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2013910]How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2013910]How so? What changed? [/QUOTE]When they banned the use of tables and chairs from the sidewalk it changed the vibe of the place completely, it has never been the same since.
The Exitos are good and have efficient check out lines, but they close earlier than TiendasD1.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2013525]Glad I am not the only one that drove crazy, the Tienda-D1 on Carr51 next to Nutribarra in Centro I went in like 5 times and turned and left, 20-30 people in a slow moving line every time.
1 cash register open, 4 to 5 other employees standing strategically about the store for stock-loss prevention.
I go 3 blocks away to the TiendaD1 across from Parque Bolivar on Carr49 and it's empty, no line. The other one is right between 2 subway stations though.
So tip, if staying in Hotel Botero or close, walk to Parque Bolivar to shop.[/QUOTE]
I used to enjoy Mayorista. Got some diamonds in the rough for a cheap price, with good service. The vibe has changed with the removal of tables and chairs from the sidewalk. As far as security, back in the day there were always police around. So it was fairly safe. Not sure if that's the case now. The negative. Lots of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] chicas lurking in the shadows. The hotels could care less about their age, so you were on your own to check ID. Keeping in mind the policy were there. So, for me, that was the biggest risk. If you could not tell a real cedula from something fake.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2013910]How so? What changed?
I'm going to be in Medellin in a few weeks. Last time I went I got bored because I thought the action would be around parque lleras, and I'm not up for bothering with the fb thing or the Mansion. Centro by day, and Mayorista by night are in my sights now. What surprises me is its almost never mentioned in this thread despite Mayorista being so close to El Poblado.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2014021]The hotels could care less about their age, so you were on your own to check ID. Keeping in mind the policy were there. So, for me, that was the biggest risk. If you could not tell a real cedula from something fake.[/QUOTE]This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2014124]This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's a problem and you must be careful and check cedula carefully. But, there is nothing in the world like a sweet smelling 18 year old pussy trying to please you.
[QUOTE=Motcar;2013477]Heading to Medellin next Wednesday with mis hermanos for primero tiempo( My brothers for the first time). Any good local bars to check out. Habla poco. Gracias amigos.[/QUOTE]Bars in Medellin are nothing like bars in the US. People usually go to bars in a group or with family. Its not pick up culture at all. It's a waste of time if you ask my opinion. Colombians are actually much more conservative than Americans regarding things like that. If you want to fuck women, it's easier and more fun to just get the independant putas or strip club / casa girls.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2012683]EDIT: BTW, if you're wondering if theprepago you're fucking regularly has a boyfriend the answer is 'yes she does. she absolutely does.' If she has a kid then its the kids father. If she was married then its her ex husband who pops in and out of her life. If not then its some guy who is fucking her and some other girls. They always have a boyfriend. Every last one of them. Sometimes the boyfriend knows and sometimes he doesn't. Thats the only difference.[/QUOTE]Funny how gringos who travel to a country a few times per year, speak hardly any Spanish (less than needed to have an intelligent conversation), and now are experts on the country's culture.
The quoted statement above is pure speculation. I agree with what somebody else has already said that many of these prepagos just blow through money on their own, they don't need a local novio to waste all their money. Makeup, cell phones, beauty salons, powdered sugar / weed (not all do it but many do), etc. all add up quickly.
As for the webcams. I never got the fascination. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS. They either have no social skills, some kind of complex about being seen as "rich", have a tiny dick (makes them afraid of real women). Yes, due to the numbers of these losers, I believe that there are really good looking women who make a buttload, but 400 k / year. PLEASE!
[QUOTE=Queens35;2014212]. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS.[/QUOTE]And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.
Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2014212]
As for the webcams. I never got the fascination. The guys that log on to these sites and spend money (any money) are total LOSERS. They either have no social skills, some kind of complex about being seen as "rich", have a tiny dick (makes them afraid of real women). Yes, due to the numbers of these losers, I believe that there are really good looking women who make a buttload, but 400 k / year. PLEASE![/QUOTE]The same can be said about anything. The people who are interested in it are total LOSERS. Going to a movie? Loser! Going to a club? Loser! Going to a casa? Loser! Whatever you are doing, somebody thinks you're stupid for doing it.
I've been around the webcam thing since before there was a webcam thing. It started with a program called CuSeeMe. I used it throughout the 90's. I had a lot of free time, with no cheap options, so I hooked up a camera and chatted. Over a 6 year period, I met about 100 people, most of them women and most of those gave me a warm bed whenever I was in their area. Over those 6 years, I probably spent $500 and got laid maybe 300 times, from about 40 different women. The money spent was on dinners, drinks, sometimes on cover charges or movies. To offset it, I got about 100 free meals.
Then commercial webcam sites came along. Women who were putting on sex shows for free began getting paid for it. Women who were getting paid for sex, started getting paid for sex shows. But the early webcam sites were just like porn, no interaction, no dialogue. The webcam companies made money, but the models didn't make much. Then smarter webcam models came along. They are more than a naked body on a mattress.
To put it in familiar terms:
You can get a woman off the street for 20 k and a 10 min BJ. You can spend 70 k for a fuck, or 150 k, or 1,000 k. And yes there are prepagos asking and getting that much per hour. Is the guy spending $300/ hour The loser, because he could have spent $7 for a BJ? Or is the other the loser for missing out on an hour with an intelligent, beautiful artist? Are they all losers because a winner could get a sex crazed 10 without paying?
Today's top webcam models are intelligent, fluent in more than one language, well educated and experts at what they do. It pays off. $200+ per hour is common, most of It coming from a handful of people. Do the math and a 20 hour week turns into $200 k.
Over a 3 year period I've seen 1 guy spend almost $200 k US on one model. Maybe he's just pretending to be rich. If so, it's a good act. Maybe he has no social skills, but his career requires a lot of communication with customers. I've got no opinion on the size of his dick. I've watched others spend a lot over a few months and disappear. Some just spend a little for a long time.
What I do is talk to these guys. I tell jokes, I provide extra entertainment, because a models body gets a bit boring after awhile. By providing conversation, the model is more than just another naked woman.
From years of talking with these guys, some are losers, some have no social skills, some are pretending to be something they aren't and some have tiny dicks. Most of them are just normal guys who prefer a different kind of entertainment.
You don't have to believe that there are Colombian models making $400 k / year. You don't have to believe there are Colombian models paying me to move to Medellin, or that I'll be moving into a Poblado high-rise in 15 days to help Colombian models make more money. You can even believe I'm a loser.
But it won't change my view, or my income.
My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell. (which is fun if you are only up there for 5 min and leave with a girl / boy. LOL) Even at 8 am on a Tuesday there were 15+ girls out, by 9 am I found a hottie so good place for a quickie before airport run, airport buses about 2-1/2 blocks away behind the Nutibara which is across from Parque Botero. Shower's a plus for your fellow travellers.
Another working hotel with girls in the door across the street to the right on Carr53. The 18-20 yo ones seemed to hang more around the SE corner of Car53 & Cal 52. Card this group for sure.
2. Raudal-and. 3 - NW corner Calle 53 & Carr 54.
Around Raudal-and. 3 More older 20+pros in this bunch, more hooker outfits, little scarier then the church block, more locals loitering / drinking, less commercial shopping foot traffic. I didn't particularly like this block while by myself, felt too many eyes on me. Also you can't just circle the block like at Veracruz, the surrounding blocks are a little scarier. (more trash, homeless, less people).
Most the action here is from the NW corner of Cal53/ Car54 and down the Car54 to the right (north) with bars and a love hotel with girls in the doorway on the west side of the road. Also some across the street / in bars and down Cal53 (Ave De Greiff) towards Parque Botero on the and side of the road. Also 3 "strip" clubs in 2 blocks there, Taberna Victoria at Cal 53#52 a-26 that I didn't go in and Conejitas & Grille Nueva Avenida which I did, liked Conejitas, the other one so / so (didn't see any hot chicks at the time in that one but cheap I bet), both across and NW of Plaza Botero on Cal53/ DeGreiff. At the NW end of Car54 at Cal54 is the Hotel Eros which is a nice love hotel with jacuzzis and steam rooms.
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-eros-medellin/[/URL] 3 more strip clubs in a few blocks with Barra Ejectiva I recommend and Maracaibo and Bar Occidental that I don't. (didn't get down to Occidental, street looked a little lonely at night.).
3. Parque Bolivar. Car49, west side park, from Cal54 up to and west on Cal55, and a bit right / north on Car50.
Much higher trannie rate I think but some females also, saw one smoking hot in the doorway to the Hotel Metropolitano on Cal54 at Car49 but was otw somewhere. Another working girl love hotel on s side of cal55 just w of car49. More weekend nights here then day, but saw a few in the day. Usually lots of cops in the park but scarier as you go west on Cal55. There is a nicer love hotel across the street from the park you could go to also, Hotel Life, NE corner of park, on Ave Oriental & Cal56, Theme rooms with 42 "LCD TV-Adult Channel-Mp4-Fan-Phone-Jacuzzi-Chair of Love Kamasutra-Hot water-Wifi. This area has the advantage of about 8 daytime Casa's in a 5 block radius or so, starting with New Life & Linda Chicas.
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-life-medellin/[/URL]
A nicer looking Love Hotel-Spazios is on Cal57 directly behind the big brick church, the Catedral Basílica Metropolitana de Medellínon at Parque Bolivar. The jacuzzi theme rooms there start at 26,000 p.
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-spazios-medellin/[/URL]
I don't recommend any of this area to non-Spanish speakers who look like tourists & who'd be easy to rob / assault / pickpocket. (except cabbing to the Casa's).
I am sure some of the regulars to Medellin can add, help correct to this info.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2014124]This is a real fucking problem in Medellin. Even in Colombian Cupid I was contacted by a couple of chicas that looked way too young. I told them to stick to guys their own age and get off the site. I'm more of a MILF man myself. I prefer them over 25 just as they start putting on the pounds which is why I want to try street meat this time. Everytime someone here posts about chicas being 'fat' I take notes haha.[/QUOTE]
JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014262]Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]I tried Colombian Cupid recently. I got bored after two weeks. I must have connected with about a dozen other women. Here is what I found:
* A couple of teens lying about their age. I noticed one chica even had a photo in a classroom. They would admit it when I asked them if they were really 22 years old. The other girl just straight up told me she was 18 and not 22. I had no interest in pursuing.
* Two women had what was obviously either an old photo or a photo of a friend in their profile because when I switched to Whatsapp their profile photo there didn't match. They went from a hottie to an older and heavier woman. Again waste of time.
* Several women, including two who had platinum profiles, who went straight to the point: "que busca en esta pagina?" Which I think means what are you looking for in this page (or website). I'd tell them I'm visiting soon and looking to make new friends. They went on about how they only wanted a serious relationship. Honestly, I couldn't lie to them so I told them straight up I wasn't interested in anything serious.
* The other women bored me to death. I'd write out several sentences asking them about the weather and making a joke. They'd respond with a few words at a time. If I didn't write them they would write me a few words and emoticons like I was supposed to stay in touch. Just zero substance. Not entertaining. Obviously not up to fuck, and if they were it was too much work to read their inane responses.
There were a few girls who looked like prepagos but they didn't bite. A friend swears by "Latin American Cupid" but I never tried that site out.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2014301]JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.[/QUOTE]I went on Twitter, checked out some of the models being followed by the webcam godfather of Colombia. Went to several of the models Twitter feeds and snagged a picture. All of these are from open accounts, meaning anyone can check out their feed. I believe almost all of these women are from Colombia, although I didn't spend the time to check. I only know they are active webcam models.
I do recognize that 2 of them are among the top Colombian models. No idea on how successful the rest are. Enjoy!
At least with SA you know you are getting a Sugar Baby, ColoCupid has some real romance ads I imagine.
Helpful if you posted the SA links to your 2 dates in case other are interested.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014262]Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, there are all kinds of reasons a guy might not be willing or able to travel or go face to face with girls. I'm in no position to judge.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2014243]And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014300]
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there...
[/QUOTE]Is ita pretty rushed experience? At 30 k they must want you in and out or are they pretty laid back? How's the customer traffic there? Do you see a lot Colombians partake?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014300]
2. Raudal-and. 3 - NW corner Calle 53 & Carr 54.
Around Raudal-and. 3 More older 20+pros in this bunch, more hooker outfits, little scarier then the church block, more locals loitering / drinking, less commercial shopping foot traffic. I didn't particularly like this block while by myself, felt too many eyes on me. Also you can't just circle the block like at Veracruz, the surrounding blocks are a little scarier. (more trash, homeless, less people).
[/QUOTE]There was another report that this area turns into a parade of flesh at night. I'm assuming it was scary enough you only went during the day. Looking forward to checking this place out. Did you fuck anyone from this group?
Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2014337]Is ita pretty rushed experience? At 30 k they must want you in and out or are they pretty laid back? How's the customer traffic there? Do you see a lot Colombians partake?
There was another report that this area turns into a parade of flesh at night. I'm assuming it was scary enough you only went during the day. Looking forward to checking this place out. Did you fuck anyone from this group?[/QUOTE]Is ita pretty rushed experience? Not really, I mean no GFE, but no hurry papi dame leche either, I think it's for 1/2 HR. I don't ask a lot for $10. LOL.
Never saw anybody but me partake but it was only mornings and up to mid afternoon, hit the strip clubs after dark, off the streets. LOL.
The Ruidal area I did only walk thru in day, didn't partake 'cause liked the spinner crowd at the church better.
You did an excellent job. You probably saved some punters a lot of extra steps and risk. I agree with the rule of thumb I've seen here a few times. You are OK if there are other civilians around but you must avoid isolated dark spots. The tourist looking or Spanish speaking thing is generally true but not quite as much a factor as it might seem from reading some of the posts on this forum. For example, the Junin pedestrian street that borders a lot of the provider streets is full of daytime and evening shoppers and tourists. Not so much after the last restaurants close around 9 pm to 10 pm. No one is going to give a second look to obvious foreigners. Step off the pedestrian street a block or two and like you said, it's another whole story. If you have a phone with Internet access, how hard is it to plug in an address and listen to turn by turn walking directions on earbuds? You don't need to be fluent in Spanish to do that but you do need to know how to use a smartphone and key in an address.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014300]My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell..[/QUOTE]
Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.
[QUOTE=EstebanH;2014166]Yes, it's a problem and you must be careful and check cedula carefully. But, there is nothing in the world like a sweet smelling 18 year old pussy trying to please you.[/QUOTE]
You can track exchange rates by the minute on [URL]xe.com[/URL].
I don't think that's necessary since the rate does not fluctuate enough to notice unless you are into 4 or 5 figure Canadian dollar amounts. I vote for using the ATMs. You can search the forum for info about daily withdrawal limits and exchange rates by bank and ATM location, but I think that's a waste of time for typical $200 to $300 withdrawals. Some guys absolutely obsess over it; probably because they are using the ATMs for weeks or months at a time. You hit the nail on the head about a reason for the ATM option. It limits the risk of losing a big pile of cash at one time. I find it more convenient to pay a few transaction fees than stress about somebody jacking me or my room for a bunch of cash. I hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Kozak;2014341]Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
LOL! This is our version of a wine cellar. Some bottles are not yet "ready for drinking."
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2014351]Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2014308]I tried Colombian Cupid recently. I got bored after two weeks. A friend swears by "Latin American Cupid" but I never tried that site out.[/QUOTE]I have sworn by Latin American Cupid (for all of Latin America) for 12 years now. I have never been on Colombian Cupid. Back in 2006 I met a chick on LAC who like you said was obvious she was not 18. When I asked she told me she was 16. I was 34 at the time. I told her that I did not need those kind of problems even though she said her parents would not mind. I told her to get back with me when she turned 18. Sure as shit she contacted me on her 18th birthday. From then, I would always go to Cali to see her and most of the time stay in her parents' house (of course I had to sleep on the couch. But we made motel visits) where she or her mom would make 3 meals / day.
We were going to get married but she wanted to do it before visiting my country. I thought that she should come visit first and enroll in an English class and let me teach her how to drive. She said it was better that all my family come to Colombia to meet her instead. To me that was a dumb idea so we broke up but remained friends. Now she is married to a Colombian guy her age and has a 3 year old daughter.
How can you tell if a cedula is fake or been altered?
Is there a website line that explains what to watch out for?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2014351]Hell yes! I second that. I actually have a list of chicas who are. Waiting for their 18th birthday later this year (and their cedula). I am sure some of you do also.[/QUOTE]
On the weekends the ones I saw on the corners were mostly TV's I think, too tall.
But Hotel Milano Calle #49-41 has some that look like they might be women out front:
So does Hotel Nuevo Majestic at Carr50#55-14.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2014243]And a monger that pays to have sex because he can't get laid on his own merits is any less of a loser, give me a fucking break.[/QUOTE]Exactly!
To each their own brother.
Webcam, porn, travel to monger, etc, etc.
Whatever floats your boat.
Mayorista red light area:
In the south of the city, in the north part of Itagüí.
S side of Calle 85, West of Carrera 50.
Closest Metro station is Ayurá on the blue A line headed S to La Estrella.
The day girls who showed up on StreetView:
Also where "Isla (the Girls) Strip Club" & Loutron Spa are on the map. For Loutron you are looking for the gate on the south side of the road.
I am thinking about renting a KTM Duke 390 and riding that up in the hills to Loutron next time. They have them at Medellin Scooter Rental- 55,000 p an HR or 4 hrs for 130,000 p.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014262]Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]I think CC attracts a lot of riff raff. SA is well organized and well run. The girls see it as a USA operation and desires to meet americans.
They have scooters and dirtbikes too.
[QUOTE=Kozak;2014341] I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There is no debate here. Use the ATM. You will get virtually the current exchange rate. Otherwise you will lose at least 10% from the change houses and at least 5% - 10% at a Bank after you wait all day and give your passport and fill out paperwork. Call your bank beforehand and increase the daily limit of what you can withdrawal. Yes, the Colombian ATM will charge you a fee, but for me, my bank refunds that. Plus you don't need to worry about carrying cash with you on the flight, etc. Use ATMs as needed for your whole trip.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2014301]JJBEE: thanks for the very articulate reply.
Yes there are all shapes, ages and backgrounds on the cam. On both sides. You see colombianas getting between US $1/ HR to +US $500/ HR. 18 year old To +50 year old.
Some like MILFs and don't want anything to do w / someone age of their children. That might be attractive for some 'losers', but different strokes for some. Some of us like to improve or practice Spanish. Some prefer GFE and understanding someone rather than anonymous prepago transaction. Personally, the performance is much more important than the appearance. A passionate GFE Colombiana "7" a starfish Colombiana with bolt ONS "10". But thankfully the equation is not the same for everyone.
CC has a very bad reputation and I have not tried it.
Another aspect is that a lot of us here have $ but not enough vaca time to travel south as often as we would like.[/QUOTE]Hey and you can't get any STDs or unwanted pregnancy from a Webcam! Personally, I wouldn't spend a nickel on a webcam, but if some guys get off on it, I don't see a problem.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014300]My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted.
I was quoted 30,000 p including room from the 4 chicks I was with there (3 chicks, one girl-boy. I ask more questions now. Then Oh!) The rooms weren't that bad, shower, fan, porno TV in some. The rooms we used were upstairs in the middle of the block on Carr53, east side, several working girls standing in the entrance and stairwell. (which is fun if you are only up there for 5 min and leave with a girl / boy. LOL) Even at 8 am on a Tuesday there were 15+ girls out, by 9 am I found a hottie so good place for a quickie before airport run, airport buses about 2-1/2 blocks away behind the Nutibara which is across from Parque Botero. Shower's a plus for your fellow travellers..[/QUOTE]This is a great report and your advice to those with no Spanish speaking skills is spot on.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014262]Gents?
Which is better SA or Colombian Cupid? Just got back from Medellin and had authentic non prepago real GFE with two paisas via SA. They treated me like a king, spent the day with me and gave me a local experience and of course total GFE in bed. I like that Colombian Cupid is much cheaper. Thoughts? And the best part was, they didn't have a price that wanted. They both just told me to give whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]What's an authentic non-hooker that takes money for sex? Just because they didn't ask for it up front just means that they are good at the game and at reading people.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2014764]What's an authentic non-hooker that takes money for sex? Just because they didn't ask for it up front just means that they are good at the game and at reading people.[/QUOTE]It's hard to explain. I would say Sugar Baby. They wouldn't give me a price because they didn't want to come off as selling their bodies for sex. And plus they really liked me as I them. The chemistry was mutual. They gave me a tour of their barrios, showed me a local experience of what life is like for everyday people. I. E. , where they eat, live, hang out, daily struggles. I even met their families. I stupidly went to one of the most dangerous communes (robledo campina) because one of them lives there and came out unscathed. They treated me like a novio / amigo con derecho and looked at me as Dorian Grey from 50 shades of grey. I took them to fun places, romantic dates, and treated them like my reina while together. Not once did they treat me like a client nor did I treat them like prepagos. They were true SB's. A Lot of them don't have jobs so they can't afford to go out at all. So the fact that they get to meet an exotic American that speaks decent Spanish, dances salsa, that knows how to seduce, and experienced in bed puts stars in their eyes. For 300,000 pesos, they spent all day with me, slept over night, and gave me the best local experience I've ever had anywhere in the world.
So for what most prepagos charge for an hour. I got much more bang for my buck with women that actually took care of me, were hospitable, and wanted to show off me to their city and show off their city to me. They had big smiles on their faces and were proud to have me as their Dorian Grey escape. The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia!
[QUOTE=Kozak;2014341]Hi All, So I booked my first trip to MDE in July and wanted to ask other Canadians who have been down some questions primarily about the exchange rate. I was thinking of bringing cash down and then exchanging at the bank. Been looking at the exchange rates online and see some big variations on the rate. Anyone have a going rate for canadian at the present time. I was also thinking of using only the ATM's as then I do not have to carry cash on me and this makes more sense but wanted to know what if any was the service charge. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You have to go to a cambio to exchange foreign currencies, banks do not do this service in Colombia, downtown medellin has 3 or 4 cambios, plus others in other parts of city, google it and you will see lots of names of cambios, RBC, royalbank Canada, charges $5. To get 600.000 pesos At Bancolombia, some other banks here have a max 300,000. The only charge, no service fee at Bancolombia, if you have a RBC VIP account there are no charges, as previous poster replied, ATM 's a no brainer, the 171,000 visa fee for canucks is payable with a credit card at immigration, if entering in Bogota, go to the farthest line at immigration, that is the Canada line as only one immigration desk services paying the visa fee, if you wait in the first 5 lineups you will be told to go to the Canada line upon reaching an officer, and start the waiting process again. You can thank ex pm Harper for bringing in this reciprocal fee by Colombia, as prior to 2 years visas were free for canuckers.
Be careful with Hotel Milano, a few extra convincing trannys hang out near the doorway. I dread reading about another 8-inch surprise on this site.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014378]On the weekends the ones I saw on the corners were mostly TV's I think, too tall.
But Hotel Milano Calle #49-41 has some that look like they might be women out front:
So does Hotel Nuevo Majestic at Carr50#55-14.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014828]
So for what most prepagos charge for an hour. I got much more bang for my buck with women that actually took care of me, were hospitable, and wanted to show off me to their city and show off their city to me. They had big smiles on their faces and were proud to have me as their Dorian Grey escape. The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia![/QUOTE]Prepagos don't charge 300 k for an hour. In Medellin the most you'd pay is 200 k with a Mansion / FB girl. Our intrepid hero Wolf was paying 30 k a pop. I'm not trying to diminish you having a good time but don't act like you got some kind of super deal there paying 300 k. Also, some sound of advice here, if I understood you correctly you went to the poor neighborhoods (barrios)? Don't fly too close to the sun, Icarus. All you need is a jealous boyfriend, or a resentful local to put a damper on things fast. And when things turn ugly they turn ugly fast.
Stick to Seeking Arrangement. It's a more expensive experience but that's where Sugar Babies hang out.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014828]The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable. God I love Medellin. Viva Colombia![/QUOTE]I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.
You are right of course, but for some reason this discussion happens again and again on this forum. I really don't get what is interesting about splitting hairs between pros, non pros, semi pros, semi hoes, it's absurd. Looks, performance, and personal preference / enjoyment, and the price paid, that is info I find useful. I have no problem with guys coming on here and talking about how charming they are but it gets boring.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2015107]I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2015107]I do not understand how you have to have game to pay a chick. Maybe to haggle a reduced rate, but certainly not to rent a pussy. If they liked you that much you would not have had to pay them. And don't give the excuse about helping out because they are poor, showed you a good time, etc. You gave them as much dick as they gave you pussy (fair exchange), but had they not given you pussy would you still be as eager to "help out" financially? I meet plenty of chicks that do all the things you say those chicks did, yet I do not have to give them money. It is just called normal dating.[/QUOTE]I think he might be confused about the Seeking Arrangement website. A sugar baby is someone expecting and requiring a long term financial commitment, prior to any physical exchange. She ain't giving it up until the check clears. The majority on SA, at least in Medellin, are prepagos who found a way to make more money.
If she's living in an estrato 2 barrio, she's at best a 50 k chica. No Colombian with the money to drop 300 k is going to pay that in her neighborhood, when he can get an estrato 5 chica for the same price. She might be a knockout, sweet and be awesome in bed, but her local price tag is the discount rack at Wal-Mart.
So she saves her pesos and lists on SA. She gets a gringo not only paying her a week's earning per day, he also takes her places she could never afford. It's the Colombian version of "Pretty Woman. ".
It's his money, he had a great time. Good for him. The "genuine non prepagos" had a great time and 2 days later they were truly enjoying themselves with another gringo who had incredible game. In the meantime, they were doing locals each day at 50 k a pop.
The reason why they won't name a price is because 9 out of 10 gringos using SA will pay them more than they would dare ask. They want to impress the chica with a lot of cash and the chica wants to pretend she's never done this before.
Enjoy Medellin in whatever way you can.
Holy crap, you paint a raw picture of the situation. But it's all true. It's really a whatever the market will bear scenario. The chica is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I'm an unsentimental slob, so I get no value or thrill out of knowing I met a girl on a website with elegant graphics. I enjoy the girls for themselves. On the other hand, I don't look down on nice looking girls because they are working in 50 K casas or even strolling on the outskirts of Plaza Botero. If they look good then I'm impressed. All other things are equal for me.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2015155]I think he might be confused about the Seeking Arrangement website. A sugar baby is someone expecting and requiring a long term financial commitment, prior to any physical exchange. She ain't giving it up until the check clears. The majority on SA, at least in Medellin, are prepagos who found a way to make more money.
If she's living in an estrato 2 barrio, she's at best a 50 k chica. No Colombian with the money to drop 300 k is going to pay that in her neighborhood, when he can get an estrato 5 chica for the same price. She might be a knockout, sweet and be awesome in bed, but her local price tag is the discount rack at Wal-Mart.
So she saves her pesos and lists on SA. She gets a gringo not only paying her a week's earning per day, he also takes her places she could never afford. It's the Colombian version of "Pretty Woman. "..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2014828] The key though gents is to have game. If you have no game, stick with Prepagos. But if you have game and are willing to put in the elbow grease, then the experience will be unforgettable..[/QUOTE]Did any accompany you to the airport and cry when you boarded the plane? Just wanted to make sure you got your 300K worth.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2012652] I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.[/QUOTE]I live here and our amigo's conclusion sums up the Paisa mindset.
Only good energy!
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2015187]Did any accompany you to the airport and cry when you boarded the plane? Just wanted to make sure you got your 300K worth.[/QUOTE]That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.
Relevant to the discussion on P4P vs conventional date.
Another Colombia 'ah ha' moment is the very term prepago rather than the dozens of other terms used around the world. Apart from mobile phones, I've not hear this pre-pay term used elsewhere in any language. Please correct me if you know of elsewhere. Just the using the term prepago, there is an implied acknowledgement. You'll pay "before" or you will eventually pay. Sure there is also a date and drop approach. If that's your thing, have fun.
Additionally, if you approach things as a gentleman, often the non full-time prepagos don't even treat time together as a transaction with asking for payment upfront, nor any upsell. Clockwatching occurs, most certainly in casas and high volume agencies. It creates a better illusion for either or both. If that's what you're looking for, it's' available. Colombiana passion comes in many flavors.
In this site, you'll read countless stories of "planned for an hour or two, but it ended up as a TLN" or "we ended up meeting another day just to hang out".
That's a healthy thing when both parties realize that it is an illusion.
There is a phrase in Colombia - "the need creates the solution" - which I've heard more than a few times to describe why so many women choose this route to money. I find it a refreshing look at things without placing judgement or blame.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2015257]That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I was being facetious. Somehow my winkie didn't make it through the screener. But sorry to hear that those looking for tears will have to head much further south or east. Lolol.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMNOouIb0k[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2015257]That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]You are young <g> . It happened to me leaving from the Cartagena airport. And she's a regular at Reloy.
(you should see me now how I inflate myself like a peacock) (yes, it must be once in a lifetime experience).
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2015361]You are young <g> . It happened to me leaving from the Cartagena airport. And she's a regular at Reloy.
(you should see me now how I inflate myself like a peacock) (yes, it must be once in a lifetime experience).[/QUOTE]I would have started clapping. Maybe give her one of those fake academy award trophies. "Excelente! Excelente!
Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2015257]That is more of a Brazil / Thailand thing. Never seen it in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure he was teasing PeoplesBuddy!!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2015112] I have no problem with guys coming on here and talking about how charming they are but it gets boring.[/QUOTE]Before my first trip to MDE last July, I read about 2 years of posts / pages in chronological order after being advised to RTFF! And it was very good advice BTW!! Anyway, my point is, self glossing runs rampant on this thread. Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!!
El Mechanico.
Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. Other than the GFE sex twice a day, all day / night fun dates, and overnighters. What was really special for me was how they opened up their lives to me. The college girl was proud to show me off at her university, friends, and family. As well as the other chica that lived in the commune Robledo campinha. They both showed me gems in salvenetta / envigado / itagui / Robledo campiña. Basically local barrios. Now I do agree going to the commune was stupid and I'm not doing that again. In all fairness I didn't know it was a commune until the college chica told me. But I thought it was clean, hilly, and had great character. I also smoked the strongest weed I've ever had in my life "cripa" or creepy weed LOL. I felt like a BF / lover / millionaire / baller and I must say it was an awesome feeling.
Now I don't want you to think that these 2 chicas fell from the sky. Trust me I had to put in my fair share of elbow grease. I messaged about 60 chicas, video chatted with 20, and met up with 6 for a date / interview And yes only fucked 2. I don't have sex with someone unless there's mutual chemistry and that they make me feel safe / comfortable. In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. And won't rob me or set me up LOL. I hear crazy stories of how prepagos drug, rob, or set up tourist to be robbed all the time.
Anyways to all the haters remember. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2015413]Before my first trip to MDE last July, I read about 2 years of posts / pages in chronological order after being advised to RTFF! And it was very good advice BTW!! Anyway, my point is, self glossing runs rampant on this thread. Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2015428]I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.[/QUOTE]I get the same result when I send those ten magic digits.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2015413]Some mongers are very impressed with their game & will let you know it!![/QUOTE]It is all a numbers game period. I was fucking a chick in Dominican Republic that I met on Cupid. She showed me her inbox where there were over 1000 messages that she had not even read. What do you think made her read mine? Pretty much nothing but luck. And even after I do make contact I do not say anything to try to impress them or run game. I just act normal and let the chips fall where they may.
[QUOTE=Zvear;2015409]Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.[/QUOTE]As far as I know 'hooker bars' like LDV are almost non existent in Medellin unless you go to a place like Mayorista or in centro. You could also try the strip clubs like Fase Dose. Wolf662's recent posts have more info on the scene in centro which is not as safe or upscale as LDV. You can also look at JjBee62's post back from November where he has a summary of the scene in Medellin.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2015428]I don't like to brag, but women just can't take their eyes off of me when I'm pulling out the money to pay them.[/QUOTE]You must be handsome (hermoso!
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. [/QUOTE]Oops no tears? Sounds like you need to up your game a bit.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]Anyways to all the haters remember. Don't hate the player, hate the game.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen any hating. Just amusement at the "authentic non-prepagos" remark, that you didn't realize that you were paying prostitutes for sex and companionship. Carry on.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2015466]As far as I know 'hooker bars' like LDV are almost non existent in Medellin unless you go to a place like Mayorista or in centro. You could also try the strip clubs like Fase Dose. Wolf662's recent posts have more info on the scene in centro which is not as safe or upscale as LDV. You can also look at JjBee62's post back from November where he has a summary of the scene in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Map for the nicer / more expensive strip clubs Luna Lunera, Grille San Diego and Fase II, the Isla (the Girls) was on my last map. Also where Casa Fantasies Energy is.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]Actually the 25 year old college student did without the crying LOL. Other than the GFE sex twice a day, all day / night fun dates, and overnighters. What was really special for me was how they opened up their lives to me. The college girl was proud to show me off at her university, friends, and family. As well as the other chica that lived in the commune Robledo campinha. They both showed me gems in salvenetta / envigado / itagui / Robledo campia. Basically local barrios. Now I do agree going to the commune was stupid and I'm not doing that again.
Now I don't want you to think that these 2 chicas fell from the sky. Trust me I had to put in my fair share of elbow grease. I messaged about 60 chicas, video chatted with 20, and met up with 6 for a date / interview And yes only fucked 2.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.
Sr Pepoles what method did you use for initial contact? (CC, SA, FB, etc).
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]I don't have sex with someone unless there's mutual chemistry and that they make me feel safe / comfortable. [/QUOTE]Don't forget one last part... "and after the funds are exchanged".
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. [/QUOTE]How do confirm the disease-free part? Is there some kind of new home STD test that you administer? There's always the oldie but goody smell test (aka old-reliable).
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]And won't rob me or set me up LOL.[/QUOTE]How do you know that they won't? The only sure way would be "right hand on the bible" since they are really afraid of the Dios.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2015645]This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.[/QUOTE]Sure enough. Many want an experience with a prostitute that can make them feel like they aren't a trick, IE. "GFE" or whatever label one wants to put on it. That's all fine by me, just don't come here pitching the illusion you purchased as reality, IE. "authentic non-prepagos" then get defensive when people challenge you on it.
True girlfriends don't charge a guy 300 K at the end of the "date. " Want to find out how real it really is? Try to sending her home with nothing or 20 k for a taxi at the end of the "date. " See what happens.
Pepolesbuddy saw a couple of prostitutes. That doesn't mean though that some here aren't capable of scoring a real date or girlfriend whether in the states or Colombia. Given all the suave dudes on message boards I'm confidents that plentl can. Lololol.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2015258] Colombiana passion comes in many flavors. [/QUOTE]P4P typically involves performance, not "passion," and with the aim to bring the guy to completion ASAP.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2015258]In this site, you'll read countless stories of "planned for an hour or two, but it ended up as a TLN" or "we ended up meeting another day just to hang out". [/QUOTE]You read all kinds of things on sites like this. But believing pussy stories is like believing a bunch of fisherman. Lolol This especially applies here given that so many guys in this hobby are most adept at self-delusion, and wise hookers play them like a fiddle.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2015258]That's a healthy thing when both parties realize that it is an illusion. [/QUOTE]Illusion. Bingo. Now you're really getting somewhere.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015421]In other words, with chicas that are clean and disease free. And won't rob me or set me up LOL. I hear crazy stories of how prepagos drug, rob, or set up tourist to be robbed all the time.[/QUOTE]But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2015641]Map for the nicer / more expensive strip clubs Luna Lunera, Grille San Diego and Fase II, the Isla (the Girls) was on my last map. Also where Casa Fantasies Energy is.[/QUOTE]Thank you, not a member so I cannot see the map, but I am sure I will find the strip clubs. I guess in my situation it's best to stick to those anyway. I appreciate the help.
[QUOTE=GringoTigre;2015645]This is exactly what I was referring to. A multidimensional multidisciplinary immersion experience. Viva estilo GFE Colombiana. Obviously this isn't what many are looking for, but for those readers who are curious. Just give it a try.
Sr Pepoles what method did you use for initial contact? (CC, SA, FB, etc).[/QUOTE]SA parcero.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2015882]SA parcero.[/QUOTE]Which site is "SA"?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2014269]You don't have to believe that there are Colombian models making $400 k / year. You don't have to believe there are Colombian models paying me to move to Medellin, or that I'll be moving into a Poblado high-rise in 15 days to help Colombian models make more money. You can even believe I'm a loser.
But it won't change my view, or my income.[/QUOTE]I don't know how much the top girls make but I have met some cam girls that make very little and some that do quite well. 400k a year? Maybe. Guys send an incredible amount to girls online. Camming can be a win $ win $ for the studio and camgirl and well the client I hope enjoyed himself as well.
I would just worry about a studio in poblado being raided by the police, or the tax dudes at that or jealous neighbors questioning why scores of hot chicas go to your apartment every day but well done seriously.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2015983]Which site is "SA"?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2015985]Seeking Arrangement.[/QUOTE]Thanks Yippie!
You are speaking a lot of truth. It's healthy to get this perspective. It's kind of like bitter medicine, unpleasant but good for you in the long run.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2015809]But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2015985]Seeking Arrangement.[/QUOTE]SA- (not seeking alpha) seeking arrangement- yeah became a premium $79 for a month as the only way message back. So that membership will be short and sweet. Many sugar babies in this world and I don't think I'm into being a sugar daddy per se, but in brings in the whole philosophy thing. You pay one way or another. Funny I already tinderplus already active even though it sucks locally, so using that somewhat to gather data about mde. I thank all senior member and those who have contributed here.
I guess the mansion is now called hotel m. I will stay there. Continue lurking here.
Thanks all.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;2015984]I don't know how much the top girls make but I have met some cam girls that make very little and some that do quite well. 400k a year? Maybe. Guys send an incredible amount to girls online. Camming can be a win $ win $ for the studio and camgirl and well the client I hope enjoyed himself as well.
I would just worry about a studio in poblado being raided by the police, or the tax dudes at that or jealous neighbors questioning why scores of hot chicas go to your apartment every day but well done seriously.[/QUOTE]Scores of hot chicas won't be coming to my apartment, just 2. I haven't seen the main studio yet, but I don't think the boss has anything to worry about with the police. He's been at it for a long time. There was a recent article in the Barranquilla newspaper about a local webcam girl. It's interesting reading.
[URL]https://www.elheraldo.co/barranquilla/el-negocio-de-animar-cibernautas-extranjeros-por-webcam-340677?amp[/URL]
[QUOTE=WestFlDude;2016022] but in brings in the whole philosophy thing. You pay one way or another. [/QUOTE]More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Then there is the opposite, women who prop up loser boyfriends. Surely varies what they are after but it not's money. Then there's celebrity couples where both are rich. They fuck and aren't after each other's money.
So though there is plenty of gold digging around it's far from a universal. So drop the "all women are working girls" except of course your mother or sister bitterness and get on with life. You can still enjoy paying hookers for a performance while leaving such nonsense behind.
Cheers.
More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Paulie97 dude,
You missed my point. I was referring to Seeking Arrangement, the sugardaddy sugarbaby site and the varies levels of relationships it may bring. I was not bringing up "all women are working girls" in any such fashion. In the 2 whole days I have been on SA, it amazes me. Everyone looking and keeping their options. And as I look back, maybe I have been a sugardaddy of sorts and will continue on with that site getting whatsapp numbers for 25 more days ha.
We all pay one way or another. Enjoy the ride. And good day.
[QUOTE=Zvear;2015409]Hello gentlemen,
I will be arriving in Medellin on Monday as a last minute detour. I read the forum, but still am a bit confused, so I hope you guys can help me out a bit. I am fairly familiar with Cartagena, but I doubt the scene is exactly the same. I read about the mansion, I thought it was a club, but now from my understanding it's a hotel? Is there anything similar to LDV? Also can anyone recommend something couple friendly. I will be sure to post my report when I return.[/QUOTE]In Parque Lleras, on top of medellin beer factory, there is a nightclub the frequently has working girls. The name escapes me for the moment.
[QUOTE=WestFlDude;2016327]More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Paulie97 dude,
You missed my point. I was referring to Seeking Arrangement, the sugardaddy sugarbaby site and the varies levels of relationships it may bring. I was not bringing up "all women are working girls" in any such fashion. In the 2 whole days I have been on SA, it amazes me. Everyone looking and keeping their options. And as I look back, maybe I have been a sugardaddy of sorts and will continue on with that site getting whatsapp numbers for 25 more days ha.
We all pay one way or another. Enjoy the ride. And good day.[/QUOTE]Enjoy and best of luck.
[QUOTE=JoeqNight;2016356]In Parque Lleras, on top of medellin beer factory, there is a nightclub the frequently has working girls. The name escapes me for the moment.[/QUOTE]Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2016155]More monger board lore that serves as an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for sex. There's plenty of women out there that in a given time simply want to have their sexual needs met, and if you happened to buy them a beer that doesn't count. I do the same for friends, family, and guys I meet from boards such as this.
Then there is the opposite, women who prop up loser boyfriends. Surely varies what they are after but it not's money. Then there's celebrity couples where both are rich. They fuck and aren't after each other's money.
So though there is plenty of gold digging around it's far from a universal. So drop the "all women are working girls" except of course your mother or sister bitterness and get on with life. You can still enjoy paying hookers for a performance while leaving such nonsense behind.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I agree. For some reason, guys love repeating this "you always end up paying" mantra. It's just not true. Plenty of young guys getting pussy for absolutely nothing. In fact, I'm guessing most on here remember the days of being able to hook up for nothing. Women enjoy sex too and not all are looking for a handout.
However, if you're 50+ and you want to bone hot 20 year-olds, yes you'll likely end up paying in some form.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2016489]Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about club Gusto?
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2015809]But you didn't see any "prepagos" in Medellin so what are you worried about? LOL.
I'll add as an aside that it's usually the younger guys that are more prone to these sorts of delusions, as in their heart of hearts they know they shouldn't be having to pay for pussy. Though of course older guys sometimes go there as well.[/QUOTE]I laughed right out loud at the guy who said "believe it or not some guys don't have to pay". Hahahhahahaha oh man. Usually if they [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue], they'll play "Ms single non pro". You know, single mom, works a menial desk job, lives with mom, etc. She knows you are about to buy her things, take her out, and she can string you along, far more lucrative than sucking dick for half the pay. You'll pay pay pay, and maybe on date three she'll give you some. What a victory! You'll tell everyone. But what you don't know is that she's screwing her boss, her husband, her boyfriend, and any customer that hits her up on fb. These girls are lying scumbags. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Here's how it really works: You always have to pay up front, and then earn their trust. It works in reverse. If the girl likes you, she'll stop making you pay "going rate" and shack up with you. From there, she'll ask for money when she needs it. You'll know she's getting serious about you when she asks you to meet her family, and you show up and 75 people are there waiting.
Until that time, keep padding your dillusions about "getting it for free". The girl you spent 1,000,000 pesos on "a date" on Friday night 99/100 works as a semi-pro and was probably ordered up like a pizza 3 hours before your date where some 55 year old vet was bouncing his balls off her chin. Yet you didn't have to "pay" for it. Sure thing! Hahahaha.
The only thing that's for sure in Medellin: The weather, and the fact that these girls are all lying [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] who will sell their own abuela up the river for a buck. Don't fool yourselves, medellin is a shallow town that should not be taken seriously.
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Everything you said is true except the part about it being hidden. It's a well known club / disco with an entrance next to the beer store. Like all the other discos around the park, there is a doorman. Yes, hookers go through that disco, the park, all the other discos and bars near the park, and the surrounding streets. I get the feeling you were maybe imagining some sort of point and click casa at the park that would save the people the trouble of going to Centro? If you were, you should go back to the normal procedure to avoid disappointment.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2016489]Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about club Gusto?
Yes Gusto. It's not hidden, the girls are independents working in plain sight. Every time I was there, there were a bunch of obvious prepagos there. Didn't partake but my cousin was quoted 150000 pesos for everything. We are Hispanics who are fluent in Spanish and relatively younger so YMMV. In the end none of us partook.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2016713]Everything you said is true except the part about it being hidden. It's a well known club / disco with an entrance next to the beer store. Like all the other discos around the park, there is a doorman. Yes, hookers go through that disco, the park, all the other discos and bars near the park, and the surrounding streets. I get the feeling you were maybe imagining some sort of point and click casa at the park that would save the people the trouble of going to Centro? If you were, you should go back to the normal procedure to avoid disappointment.[/QUOTE]Back in November I saw hookers outside the liquor store (too young looking), and only once saw a group of three women with fake tits at one of the clubs. Everyone else looked like normal party goers out on the weekend hitting up parque lleras.
[QUOTE=Combo;2016535]I agree. For some reason, guys love repeating this "you always end up paying" mantra. It's just not true. Plenty of young guys getting pussy for absolutely nothing. In fact, I'm guessing most on here remember the days of being able to hook up for nothing. Women enjoy sex too and not all are looking for a handout.
However, if you're 50+ and you want to bone hot 20 year-olds, yes you'll likely end up paying in some [/QUOTE]You do actually pay one way or another, regardless of what any of the Don Juans of the board say, LOL.
Might not be paying with money, but maybe time, drama, jealousies, etc, etc, etc.
What do I care though?
I don't.
Just happy to be alive, bouncing between Brazil and Colombia.
Paying for it, one way or another.
Though paying with money is the simplist and easiest fashion of payment.
[QUOTE=JoeqNight;2016734]Are you talking about club Gusto?
Yes Gusto. It's not hidden, the girls are independents working in plain sight. Every time I was there, there were a bunch of obvious prepagos there. Didn't partake but my cousin was quoted 150000 pesos for everything. We are Hispanics who are fluent in Spanish and relatively younger so YMMV. In the end none of us partook.[/QUOTE]My buddy always gets his chicks from there as well for the same price. Black American. Nothing secret about it.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2016856]You do actually pay one way or another, regardless of what any of the Don Juans of the board say, LOL.
Might not be paying with money, but maybe time, drama, jealousies, etc, etc, etc. [/QUOTE]You just described the inconveniences of dealing with human beings in general. People can be a pain in the ass, especially when they aren't doing what you want them to do. Lolol Again the "you pay one way or another" mantra is an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for pussy. Well guess what? You're a John, and not every guy is a John. Not every woman is a hooker. Sex doesn't always involve paying money as proven in recent posts. Which is okay with me. I can enjoy the hobby without embracing BS.
150 K is the great equalizer. LOL! That is so much money that I encourage everybody who pays it to imagine it would be more or the services would be less if they weren't who they are.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2016858]My buddy always gets his chicks from there as well for the same price. Black American. Nothing secret about it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickSaylor;2016587]I laughed right out loud at the guy who said "believe it or not some guys don't have to pay".[/QUOTE]Hi DickRule,
#1. No posting while intoxicated.
Hey sorry to destroy the cherished monger culture myth, "you pay one way or another" but it simply isn't true that every woman except your mother or sister is a hooker. See my post here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2016155&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2016155.
The good news is this, you can still enjoy this hobby without embracing BS.
Can't believe some of the cynical pessimistic stuff I'm reading here. If you're able to move freely around the globe and frequent special places like Colombia. You are of the super privileged. That's reason in itself to be optimistic about your ability to experience life. If you only regard women as gold-diggers where 'you have to pay one way or the other' - then you probably need to stop visiting spots like Medellin and start having real, humanized relationships with women. You then can come back to your travels with a brighter perspective on life where you don't regard pleasurable human experiences as simply mechanistic transactions.
You're in Colombia, bro. Smile. Respect the beautiful people around you. Repeat.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2016861]You just described the inconveniences of dealing with human beings in general. People can be a pain in the ass, especially when they aren't doing what you want them to do. Lolol Again the "you pay one way or another" mantra is an ego saving balm to make guys feel better about paying for pussy. Well guess what? You're a John, and not every guy is a John. Not every woman is a hooker. Sex doesn't always involve paying money as proven in recent posts. Which is okay with me. I can enjoy the hobby without embracing BS.[/QUOTE]Never said that all women are hookers, or that sex is always about money. Duh.
However, thanks for clarifying for us professor.
I've been on for a few years, but never broke down and wrote a report. I know, I suck. But I did buy a membership yesterday.
At any rate, here for a couple weeks (6th time in last 12 months) and wanted to write a small update on a few things I think have changed a bit since I started coming down a few years ago.
1. Parque Lleras seems to get getting busier each time. There is a Starbucks there, and it seems to be just expanding outwards (restaurants and apartments). Still a great place to eat, party, and pretty much do anything.
2 a. Loutron (finding it) - I had heard about this place, and may people gushing over it. It's hard as hell to find unless the taxi actually knows how to get there. For anyone going, either get a taxi who knows exactly where it is (not "in the general area") or it (oddly) was in Waze (but not google maps or apple maps). The reason it was hard to find was that there is a 1,000 ft driveway and leads up to what appears to be a mansion which isn't visible from the road. So the taxi's couldn't really understand if they had found it. I made this mistake and we went, and left without finding it. Then the second time around we found it.
2 b. Loutron (inside) - Without a doubt, the inside is incredible compared to other casas or pensions or whatever your local-country term is. This is / was a large mansion (a real one) and was converted into a very "casa" - Its the only place I know of in Medellin that has a sit-down bar, tables and where you can go with a group of guys and actually chill on a balcony and drink. Kind of the same vibe as Zona Blue back in the day in Costa Rica. It's expensive (relatively) -- About $90 USD (280 k COP) for the girls. The drinks were middle priced. But overall just having a bar / chill place with my friends was great. As far as girls. Everyone has their own version of hot. But for me, this wasn't much different than the other places. I was thinking I would walk in and see just 10 after 10. Didn't happen. There were 10 girls, ranging 5 to 7. (FYI, my version of a 10 is more of a spinner type, Audrina Patridge or Emmanuele Chriqui) -- I don't like larger girls. I took the 7 and the experience was VERY good. She actually gave me a massage, stayed over the 60 minutes (maybe 75 ish) and was really chill (though we had pretty solid chemistry). One thing to note is that the girls still come out to present, and so you can't hang out and drink with them first (well I guess you could pay and do it, but we didn't). Overall, I would, without hesitation, recommend this place to anyone if not to just experience the way I wish all casas were: clean, nice, and professional, without the hospital lights.
3. Energy. My favorite spot. Yesterday the place was packed with about 20 girls. I found 2 x 9's. Overall, this place is pretty nice, a very wide selection, and 5 blocks from the Estadio Metro station.
4. Abydos. We stopped by for 30 minutes and had a beer. I had never been here before, and also never had been to Luna Lunera which is right across the street. There were only 4 girls, nothing special, but the staff was nice and the place was also pretty clean from what I saw.
5. New Life has a large selection also, but personally I just feel rushed when I'm there, like I'm in a fast-food restaurant. That being said. Go here anyway. No matter what. The number of girls is the same as Energy, its 1/2 the price, and it's worth a look.
A few other notes:
1. This was the first time I used Uber. And without hesitation, I will avoid taxis as much as I can in the future. Uber lets you pay automatically on your card, puts the address the driver's phone (so no more accidental "I went the wrong way" bullshit), and the best thing (in my opinion) -- the price is set and cheaper. So even if there is a bit of trouble finding a spot, you pay the flat rate before you get in the car.
2. For those of you into spinners, the 3 best places I have been here in the last year (I've been to many of the casas, strip clubs, the mansion, etc.) have been, in this order: Las Isla, Fase 2, and Energy. La Isla is expensive (300 for 30 minutes -- though they will tell you an hour and I guess you could push it), plus the drinks and taxi are expensive. Fase 2 is closer to the city, but the same issue with the drinks. Energy, dollar for dollar is the best value in this city based on my tastes.
3. The mansion -- It's called hotel m now. Great place and you can read reviews by others here. It seems like there have been less and less girls there compared to a couple years ago, and the internet is godawful if you have to actually make Skype calls, plus the construction noise that starts early. However, again, this is one of the few places you can meet other gringos, hang out in the same place next to a pool all day and have girls come and go. The value is still VERY solid for anyone looking for that, or anyone new to the country.
5. The metro. I used to swear by it. But during rush hours it's gotten a bit more crowded. Plus uber (considering it is point to point) just seems to be the better way for me to travel now.
6. Any of you who have a check / credit card that doesn't charge fees. I got a much higher conversion rate just withdrawing cash as I needed it. About 5% higher on the conversion, plus no fees (though that's my bank). Any of you who bring dollars, make sure you get NEW bills before bringing them here. Any wrinkled or ripped bills are scoffed at at the money-changing places and they will just not accept those bills.
7. I also broke down and started using facebook and tinder (since actually meeting girls here can be a pain in the ass sometimes). Once you add a few other guys here, and start adding the girls on their friends list, you will have about 100+ within days. Try to do this before arriving.
8. I got the Medellin casa list from the admin here- it's legit. I was originally wanting the map as well, but using uber and just putting the address from the text list, that served us very well. Everything on the casa list for Medellin was spot-on and that list alone is worth $20 of dealing with googling all that shit. I downloaded the PDF, imported into my phone and then just copied the addresses into uber as we went to each one. It does not get any easier than that.
9. Phone. For about $10, you can get a SIM plus about 10 days worth of internet (light browsing, whatsapp, etc). People don't text or call much here. Mostly they use FB messenger and Whatsapp. I wouldn't even bother trying to communicate with a female unless you use one of those two apps.
10. I use uber, but anyone looking to save money on the trip into the city from the airport. There are private shuttles right outside the terminal. Usually there is a guy screaming "San Diego" and another screaming "Central" -- Either one is about $3 USD (9,500 COP) and they drop you off downtown where you can taxi anywhere for pretty cheap.
11. Any of you using AirBnb- you might want to specifically ask the host if you can have guests, or try to read between the lines. We got our asses handed to us a few trips back because the guards at the apartments carded everyone and our host was pissed when we showed up at 11 pm with vodka and company.
First time in Medellin. Got a sick penthouse airbnb on the hill across from La Isla. Since its only a few minutes away by uber I checked it out. Host recommendation I had a 2 bedroom place. One bedroom for sex, one for sleeping. Awesome balcony with views of all of Medellin.
Got to La Isla around 10 pm on a Friday night. It was totally empty when I arrived and thought the place was closed, but bouncers were there so I went in. There were like 3 girls and 2 tables of guys and no strippers, but I figured wtf I'll wait it out. Had a beer and waited. A couple strippers showed up. They ask for tips after the dance because it's not like the states where you stack cash on the stage.
Around 11 the place started to get packed with girls. All types, shapes, sizes etc. I'd say when I was leaving around 11:30 was the sweet spot. Girls were there hunting but still clean (well maybe who knows what they do before they got there).
The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
The thing I like about this place compared to Casas is that the girls get naked on stage so you know exactly what you are getting. I don't like a girl that looks good in her cocktail dress then you get her naked and find funky nipples or scars. At that point its too late to change your mind. So this place at least you can see her naked then when she comes around asking for tips you buy her a drink if you like her.
Note on tips. Girls expect at least 2 k. Anything more than that is bonus to them, no tip and they will haggle you later so just get a 50 k note changed and hand it out.
The girl I took home wanted my number (Colombian SIM of course for whatsapp. She wanted facebook and my us number but fuck that noise) and to hangout the next day. She blew my phone up the next day wanting to hangout, seriously like 5 calls and 4 texts before I responded. I met her for lunch after an Escobar tour of the city and she was waiting at the spot with a 20 min heads up. After like 10 hours of hanging out; lunch, tour of her neighborhood, sex, pool, dinner, drinks, sketchy strip club, she said she wanted money. She started with 1 million pesos, but I negotiated her down to the same as the night before so 680 k. I balked at the extra 180 k cause we weren't at the club then she started saying things like "well we don't want problems do we, La isla is 5 minutes from your apartment. ". Not so subtly got the impression that 180 k was so I don't get robbed or whatever. I was kinda annoyed because at that point I'd rather find a new flavor girl but whatever we were haggling over 180 k (60 USD). Hit the ATM on the way back from zona rosa, sex again then she stayed till like 3 am even though I kept telling her I was ready for sleep, but with a naked Paisa hanging out on your balcony it's hard to really hard to actually kick her out. She wanted to hangout again on Sunday but I was bored of her.
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. Not really sure why she wants to spend so much time for the same amount of money but whatever, nice little weekend treat. Just the piece of advice I realized from this experience is that next time I go to La Isla (or really any casa I'm taking girls home from) be super picky of the girl cause it's not just a 30 min time I'm getting myself into but possible a whole weekend experience so for the time spent its worth getting your ideal girl.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2017121]Never said that all women are hookers, or that sex is always about money. Duh.
However, thanks for clarifying for us professor.[/QUOTE]I'm honored to have been of assistance.
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017676]The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
The thing I like about this place compared to Casas is that the girls get naked on stage so you know exactly what you are getting. I don't like a girl that looks good in her cocktail dress then you get her naked and find funky nipples or scars. [/QUOTE]2 problems with that that I can think of right off the bat are: First, you can get 10 casa girls for the price of 1 La Isla girl. I would say at least 1 out of the 10 you wouldn't find any funky nipples or scars on. Second, say you spot a chick in La Isla that you want to fuck. Are you going to wait 3 hours until her time comes up to dance on the stage in order to see her naked first? Then you find out she has a funky nipple or scars, you have just wasted 3 fucking hours.
[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;2017213]I2 b. Loutron (inside) - Its the only place I know of in Medellin that has a sit-down bar, tables and where you can go with a group of guys and actually chill on a balcony and drink. Kind of the same vibe as Zona Blue back in the day in Costa Rica. It's expensive (relatively) -- About $90 USD (280 k COP) for the girls. The drinks were middle priced. But overall just having a bar / chill place with my friends was great. [/QUOTE]Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017781]Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.[/QUOTE]What are those places named? I'll be there this week.
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017676]
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The exit fee is $180 k.
The girls want 300 k in house. Girl quoted me 800 K TLN but got her down to 500 k. Left with a girl after a few over priced drinks. She spent about 2 hours with me before heading back to the club or at least that's where the uber dropped her off.
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Note on tips. Girls expect at least 2 k. Anything more than that is bonus to them, no tip and they will haggle you later so just get a 50 k note changed and hand it out.
The girl I took home wanted my number (Colombian SIM of course for whatsapp. She wanted facebook and my us number but fuck that noise) and to hangout the next day. She blew my phone up the next day wanting to hangout, seriously like 5 calls and 4 texts before I responded. I met her for lunch after an Escobar tour of the city and she was waiting at the spot with a 20 min heads up. After like 10 hours of hanging out; lunch, tour of her neighborhood, sex, pool, dinner, drinks, sketchy strip club, she said she wanted money. She started with 1 million pesos, but I negotiated her down to the same as the night before so 680 k. I balked at the extra 180 k cause we weren't at the club then she started saying things like "well we don't want problems do we, La isla is 5 minutes from your apartment. ". Not so subtly got the impression that 180 k was so I don't get robbed or whatever.
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. [/QUOTE]Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017676]She wanted to hangout again on Sunday but I was bored of her.[/QUOTE]LOL. She didn't want to hangout again on Sunday. She just wanted another $300 on Sunday! To put that shit in perspective, when my girlfriend goes to the states a few months out of the year, she has to send $100/month back to Colombia to maintain her 15 year old daughter.
Yakuza will let you use their WiFi.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017781]Actually there are several casas that I go to close to downtown that are like that. Sit in the den on couches and drink with your buddies and the girls or go out on the balcony and do the same. They will even go get you food if you want. Then you can go into one of the bedrooms and fuck for 40 K.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2017843]Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.[/QUOTE]LOL like I said. I'm a newbie. I thought that was cheap. Hahaha. What would be a better strategy? Talk about cost up front? What would you negotiate for?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2016489]Joe, I speak for a lot of readers. In El Poblado, by Parque Lleras, there is a hidden place above a bar with hookers? How obvious are they, and when was this? I fucking scrapped my ass into every club or bar last November and I got was one or two waiters that would point at ugly drunk chicas and ask me if I wanted to put jizz in their mouth.
Details. Details.[/QUOTE]It's called "Gusto".
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017676]
I'm kinda newbie at this so guess that's GFE. Not really sure why she wants to spend so much time for the same amount of money but whatever, nice little weekend treat. Just the piece of advice I realized from this experience is that next time I go to La Isla (or really any casa I'm taking girls home from) be super picky of the girl cause it's not just a 30 min time I'm getting myself into but possible a whole weekend experience so for the time spent its worth getting your ideal girl.[/QUOTE]You rented a "sick penthouse" in that area of Medellin and don't understand why she wanted to spend so much time with you? She saw great big dollar signs. In 2 days she made enough to cover 3 weeks of her expenses (or more, depending on where she's living). She was probably figuring on getting you hooked on her, so you'll drop a bundle on her each trip.
GFE is usually just based upon whether or not kissing and full access is allowed, not on whether she gets you to spend money on her all day.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2017979]You rented a "sick penthouse" in that area of Medellin and don't understand why she wanted to spend so much time with you? She saw great big dollar signs. In 2 days she made enough to cover 3 weeks of her expenses (or more, depending on where she's living). She was probably figuring on getting you hooked on her, so you'll drop a bundle on her each trip.
GFE is usually just based upon whether or not kissing and full access is allowed, not on whether she gets you to spend money on her all day.
Glad to hear you had a good time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017898]LOL. She didn't want to hangout again on Sunday. She just wanted another $300 on Sunday! To put that shit in prespective, when my girlfriend goes to the states a few months out of the year, she has to send $100/month back to Colombia to maintain her 15 year old daughter.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2017843]Seriously you went on the "Escobar tour" after you got ripped off? Then you found her waiting for you to rip you off again? 680 k? Are you fucking out of your skull?
Its GFE if you like being ripped off. Holy shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2017780]2 problems with that that I can think of right off the bat are: First, you can get 10 casa girls for the price of 1 La Isla girl. I would say at least 1 out of the 10 you wouldn't find any funky nipples or scars on. Second, say you spot a chick in La Isla that you want to fuck. Are you going to wait 3 hours until her time comes up to dance on the stage in order to see her naked first? Then you find out she has a funky nipple or scars, you have just wasted 3 fucking hours.[/QUOTE]These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums. I understand what you all see in TravelPlanet's post. On some levels I am a little surprised he revealed it and wonder if he has much experience here on the Medellin board- probably not much or would have known his report would be received with some form of shock and awe. Compared to what TP has available in the US (he actually did ok, I guess. But that is not the standard one should take to Colombia. It's actually kind of dangerous considering the girl intimated harm if he didn't comply. She's obviously a barrio girl and they are most always predators if you show them an opening.
These kinds of posts are learning experiences and teaching moments. I'm glad he shared his report because it serves as a reminder. One can go four or five trips without a hitch, forget the basics or get cocky, and then find himself on the losing end of a deal because he just forgot he is in Colombia. TP made the understandable mistake of believing that a penthouse and money makes them act human and decent. It does not. They can be very disrespectful.
Sadly, this girl that walked with a month's income will have wasted most of it within a few days. They just cannot handle success.
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018009]
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.[/QUOTE]I wasn't trying to ridicule and we've PM'd a bit since the post. The problem is I don't believe the poster was aware of World Travelers list or the pricing in Colombia despite this information being available on this forum. It's not so hard to find. He didn't overpay. He got taken advantage of and she was happy to keep doing it. He could easily have two prepagos living with him for what he's paying her.
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017939]LOL like I said. I'm a newbie. I thought that was cheap. Hahaha. What would be a better strategy? Talk about cost up front? What would you negotiate for?[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't be paying more than 200k for short time in Medellin. In the casas its significantly cheaper, but if you're going to pick up outside, stay away from the strip clubs and never go over 200k. Believe me most of these girls aren't so busy. They'll agree to 150-200k. The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
[QUOTE=TravelPlanet17;2017942]It's called "Gusto".[/QUOTE]
What time does it get hopping and how many girls are there? Anyone want to post impressions on it?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018020] The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
[/QUOTE]I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.
Reading the forum can be tedious and time consuming, but it is a good way to avoid mistakes like over paying or ending up in a risky situation.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018009]These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums. I understand what you all see in TravelPlanet's post. On some levels I am a little surprised he revealed it and wonder if he has much experience here on the Medellin board- probably not much or would have known his report would be received with some form of shock and awe. Compared to what TP has available in the US (he actually did ok, I guess. But that is not the standard one should take to Colombia. It's actually kind of dangerous considering the girl intimated harm if he didn't comply. She's obviously a barrio girl and they are most always predators if you show them an opening.
These kinds of posts are learning experiences and teaching moments. I'm glad he shared his report because it serves as a reminder. One can go four or five trips without a hitch, forget the basics or get cocky, and then find himself on the losing end of a deal because he just forgot he is in Colombia. TP made the understandable mistake of believing that a penthouse and money makes them act human and decent. It does not. They can be very disrespectful.
Sadly, this girl that walked with a month's income will have wasted most of it within a few days. They just cannot handle success.
But for the love of the hobby, teach, don't talk down. There is no need to ridicule. I realize it is frustrating to hear but I am glad he posted the report because being reminded of how things really are. I learn from every report that was a successful trip but more from someone posting what might not have gone well.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you except the part about mentioning the strength of the Colombian peso. I don't think the girls care about or understand foreign exchange. For them, a peso is a peso. I don't understand what concern they would have about how pesos line up against the currency a punter uses back home. It's not unlike the idea of justifying paying three times the going rate because it's still cheaper than what it would cost in London or Toronto.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018020]I wasn't trying to ridicule and we've PM'd a bit since the post. The problem is I don't believe the poster was aware of World Travelers list or the pricing in Colombia despite this information being available on this forum. It's not so hard to find. He didn't overpay. He got taken advantage of and she was happy to keep doing it. He could easily have two prepagos living with him for what he's paying her.
You shouldn't be paying more than 200k for short time in Medellin. In the casas its significantly cheaper, but if you're going to pick up outside, stay away from the strip clubs and never go over 200k. Believe me most of these girls aren't so busy. They'll agree to 150-200k. The Colombian peso has also been moving higher and you can always mention that.
What time does it get hopping and how many girls are there? Anyone want to post impressions on it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018026]I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.tradingeconomics.com/colombia/inflation-cpi[/URL]
Inflation is almost half what it used to be from last year. I'm not sure how that impacts the value of the currency. I thought the peso is more tied to the price of oil.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018039][URL]http://www.tradingeconomics.com/colombia/inflation-cpi[/URL]
Inflation is almost half what it used to be from last year. I'm not sure how that impacts the value of the currency. I thought the peso is more tied to the price of oil.[/QUOTE]I believe you are correct. Oil prices look to go higher this year. I could live with 2500 but 2000 makes other locations an equal option.
[URL]https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/01/24/what-does-2017-hold-for-oil-prices.aspx[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018026]I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.[/QUOTE]If anyone could possibly tell you that with any assurance it would be the easiest way to get rich. It would be the same as them giving you the winning lotto numbers.
I returned a week ago from a 12-day trip to Medellin. I have been there multiple times each year for the past six years. I rely on Facebook for meeting the chicas. Many are repeats from previous trips, but I always try to see at least one new chica each trip. Only a couple of times I've had a problem with the chica not showing up or not informing me beforehand.
Something changed on the last trip, and I hope it is not a trend. I arrange meetings a few days ahead and send a remainder the day before the planned meeting. Three arrangements, all with new chicas, went awry. The first evening I was there, the chica (new friend on FB) sent a message about the time of our scheduled meeting, and asked if she could bring a girlfriend. Since I had not met either chica, I told her no. She then decided she couldn't come alone. She contacted me a few times later, but our schedules never coincided.
The second incident happened the next night. A longtime FB friend who I had never met was scheduled. I was a little skeptical of her because I hadn't seen any comments on FB to indicate she was working. She communicated prior to our scheduled time to let me know everything was good. Later, she sent a message that she was in a taxi, but traffic was very bad. I believed that because it was raining, and Thursday evening. Then she went silent. I called more than an hour later and a guy answered the phone. I asked for her, but no one came back to the phone. The next day, she sent a message that she was involved in an accident and had to go to the hospital. A few days later, she contacted me again. I told her I did not believe she was in an accident, because she had posted photos and she didn't appear to have an injuries. Anyway, I didn't see her.
The third was another longtime FB friend. I sent a message the day before our scheduled meeting. I never heard from her until the next day, just telling me she could not meet me that day. Then she never responded to the next message.
A fourth incident was a different scenario. I had seen the chica before, and she had nice large natural boobs. The chica who showed up was not the same chica. The new chica had just gotten a boob job, and it was terrible IMO. It was one where they cut from the nipple to the base of the boob. The scars were fairly new. She had also gotten butt implants, and her cheeks were still bruised. The profile on FB has evolved two times from the chica I originally saw to the current chica.
After all that drama, I still had a great time and was with as many chicas as I wanted. I will probably return next month if I can get my schedule coordinated with some doctors' schedules.
I don't want to publish any chica's name, because maybe I just hit an unlucky streak. If anyone is curious, I will send info by PM.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2018103]
Something changed on the last trip, and I hope it is not a trend. I arrange meetings a few days ahead and send a remainder the day before the planned meeting. Three arrangements, all with new chicas, went awry. The first evening I was there, the chica (new friend on FB) sent a message about the time of our scheduled meeting, and asked if she could bring a girlfriend. Since I had not met either chica, I told her no. She then decided she couldn't come alone. She contacted me a few times later, but our schedules never coincided.
[/QUOTE]This is pretty standard behavior in Colombia when they go dating. On the first date she'll bring a friend as a chaperone. A prepago might do it to check you out the first time and make sure she wants to work with you.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2018031]I agree with you except the part about mentioning the strength of the Colombian peso. I don't think the girls care about or understand foreign exchange. For them, a peso is a peso. I don't understand what concern they would have about how pesos line up against the currency a punter uses back home. It's not unlike the idea of justifying paying three times the going rate because it's still cheaper than what it would cost in London or Toronto.[/QUOTE]
I've had a couple of girls bring it up when trying to get 300k. They would say it's only 100 USD.
Just landed in Medellin, map feature is not showing up. Any idea how to get it back up?
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018009]These responses illustrate where the Medellin board seems to fail in comparison to other forums.[/QUOTE]In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2018294]In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.[/QUOTE]I had no intention to ridicule the guy. He has a higher budget than most of the people here, so he is spending more. Nothing wrong with that. If I had the money, I'd probably do the same thing.
There would be a few differences. I wouldn't be paying TLN for someone I'd just met. If I did, she wouldn't be going back to the club after 2 hours. If I paid TLN and she left after 2 hours, she certainly wouldn't be hanging with me the next day, unless she had agreed to a much lower price.
No matter what, I'd never pay a takeout fee if I didn't take her direct from the club.
If you want to live large, rent the big penthouse, but you're also renting a few unexpected things with it. Any woman you bring back sees you as ridiculously wealthy. You've taken someone who is probably still living with family, in a rough neighborhood and brought them to a palace.
You're frequently going to get a couple of reactions. Some women want to get as much of it as they can. They want to get some status with you, find some way to tie you down.
It's not something they can get from a Colombian. A Colombian living in a comparable situation is unlikely to bring a club or casa girl home. They'll either use a love motel, or the rooms on site.
The other response, which is the one he encountered, is to grab as much as you can, while you can. The next day the woman blew up his phone. She wanted to get to him before he went looking for someone else. If he was going to spend money, she wanted to be the one he spent it on.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2018103] The second incident happened the next night. A longtime FB friend who I had never met was scheduled. I was a little skeptical of her because I hadn't seen any comments on FB to indicate she was working. She communicated prior to our scheduled time to let me know everything was good. Later, she sent a message that she was in a taxi, but traffic was very bad.
After all that drama, I still had a great time and was with as many chicas as I wanted. I will probably return next month if I can get my schedule coordinated with some doctors' schedules.[/QUOTE]Reminds of the old meme.
If she says she in taxi, means she is thinking about getting ready.
If she she says traffic is bad, it means she is putting on makeup.
If she says she is 5 minutes away, it means she is just getting in the taxi.
Some guys have trouble with their cell phones. Look on a computer.
[QUOTE=Unico11;2018134]Just landed in Medellin, map feature is not showing up. Any idea how to get it back up?[/QUOTE]
You nailed it.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2018319]I had no intention to ridicule the guy. He has a higher budget than most of the people here, so he is spending more. Nothing wrong with that. If I had the money, I'd probably do the same thing.
There would be a few differences. I wouldn't be paying TLN for someone I'd just met. If I did, she wouldn't be going back to the club after 2 hours. If I paid TLN and she left after 2 hours, she certainly wouldn't be hanging with me the next day, unless she had agreed to a much lower price.
No matter what, I'd never pay a takeout fee if I didn't take her direct from the club..[/QUOTE]
I agree it's not unusual for a girl to bring a chaperone first time out. It's for safety reasons. I'm OK with it if she asks first. I walk away if it happens unannounced.
As for the exchange rate discussion, my advice is redirect the conversation to reality: we're in Colombia and these are pesos. It's a slippery slope justifying prices based on what they would be in another place. Think about those $6 bottles of water in airport shops that cost $1 in supermarkets. Would any of us consider paying $6 in a supermarket because we know it costs that much at an airport shop?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018119]This is pretty standard behavior in Colombia when they go dating. On the first date she'll bring a friend as a chaperone. A prepago might do it to check you out the first time and make sure she wants to work with you.
I've had a couple of girls bring it up when trying to get 300k. They would say it's only 100 USD.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2018026]I've noticed. Anyone have any idea if this will continue? I read they have low inflation is helping the Peso strengthen.[/QUOTE]I have been watching currency rates fluctuate since I began to travel abroad in the late 70's. There is no way to predict currency fluctuations. I discussed it with my Economics 101 professor, and asked if could make money trading currencies. He set me straight on that. Another professor explained the theory on currency exchange rates even deeper, though that was around 1980. Since then all economic theory that seemed to work well, has failed to work in today's environment of low interest rates. As as example of that, note that if traditional economic theory applied now, the US would have been in hyperinflation mode years ago due to ultra low interest rates.
All I do know is that currency trends tend to last for than a few years. The US dollar was weak for a decade, and now that it has strengthened, I expect it will remain that way for awhile. Someone mentioned that they thought the COP was related to oil. But, Colombia is not a big exporter of oil, so I doubt that. Besides, in the old days, the strength of the USD was relative to the price of oil, and vice versa. That old paradigm is gone, as well. As Mr. E pointed out, if we could predict currency rates, we could be making easy money off that knowledge. You might as well try to tell me where the S&P 500 is going to be on the next 4th of July.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2018294]In my country there is a proverb saying "the merciful doctor makes you gangrene".
Some frank and direct words, harsh but straight to the point, could open eyes and "save a life". I believe that this man needed a "slap" to wake up :D Some laughs here make no harm, whilst another experience like that must not be repeated.[/QUOTE]I'm good with that. I completely agree. So much to learn from that experience just could not leave it at "you f-ked up".
Love the airport water analogy- spot on.
On currency, damn it hope we stay strong and Eszpresszo is correct. On a side note, I was expecting (hoping) Brazil's Real to tank. About six months ago I heard from a Brazilian acquaintance their govt had lost or stolen hundreds of billions from the national treasury and that it was going to hurt the country's credibility badly. Hoped that would push it past 4-1. Has not happened.
I can predict [B]exactly[/B] what currency exchange rates are going to do. PM me if you want to know.
Stopped by Yakusa yesterday on my walk around Centro.
Not a flaquita to be found.
I also stopped in [URL]Chicas.Com[/URL], where I found a few spinners.
Mariana, a nice flaquita, 26 years old, but looks 18.
Nothing earth shattering, but very accommodating.
Kinda of funny, but in my last few visits to Medellin, I've found my best girls in Centro, on the streets.
Some cuties in the area of zombies and glue sniffers.
Found another yesterday. Very pretty, very sweet, very GFE.
A little kindness and sense of humor goes a long way with these girls.
30 cop per 30 minutes in Centro. I stayed with her for an hour, then had a drink with her at one of the dive bars in the area.
She said she goes to Parque Lleras on weekends and commands 200-300 cop per hour depending on the gringo.
She's on her way over now in an Uber I sent for her.
Told her I'd help her with $ of what I thought was right, she agreed.
As a side note, Uber is great that you know the girl is actually inbound and when she'll arrive.
Takes the arrival BS out of the equation.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2018456]Stopped by Yakusa yesterday on my walk around Centro.
Not a flaquita to be found.
[/QUOTE]Do they at least have any tall ones? I recall they were all short, fat and young last time I was there.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2018456]
Kinda of funny, but in my last few visits to Medellin, I've found my best girls in Centro, on the streets.
Some cuties in the area of zombies and glue sniffers.
[/QUOTE]Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?
[QUOTE=Balboa;2018456]
She said she goes to Parque Lleras on weekends and commands 200-300 cop per hour depending on the gringo.
[/QUOTE]That's funny, hahaha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018468]Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?[/QUOTE]Raudal is on the NW corner of Calle 53 & Carr 54. It was closed when I was there in the day, I think it is a bar.
The glue sniffer's are more around the little white church at Calle 51 & Carr 54 next to Plaza Botero.
The biggest factor for the exchange rate going forward is how the peace agreement is going. If FARC and the government generally abide by the terms of the accord, the Peso will strengthen against the USD. If not, it will weaken. Yes relative interest rates and inflation rates matter, but in the case of Colombia they are overridden by security concerns. If things go well, investment will flow into the country which will bolster the currency.
The exchange rate "shouldn't" matter for what we pay the girls. However, a few dim-witted Gringos have insisted on explaining it to the girls. Maybe some Brits or Canadians should explain how their currencies have fallen and therefore they should pay less.
The cost of water in the airport vs the grocery store is instructive. Also instructive is the typical wage in Colombia vs the typical wage in the US, Canada, or Europe. A typical monthly wage in Colombia is about 700,000 pesos. That should give you a good guideline for what to pay the girls. Hint - a fraction of what you'd pay in your own country.
I'll be in Mdellin this weekend.
Any suggestions on what places are good on Sundays usually? I've found Latin America to be less open on Sundays. What are the hot spots for drinks and what are the best casas on Sunday?
Any suggestions on what to do other than mongering and drinking? I figure we'll look around the parks, maybe do that cable car, see a couple of escobar sights. Anything else? I don't think we'll have the time to go out to Guatape.
One more thing. A friend of mine said Escobar's house that he was caught in is now a brothel. Anyone been? Is it simple to get to? He said a friend of his got him in and implied that it wasn't as easy as the other ones.
After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.
I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.
There was a fat older woman standing in front and I walked right up her. She looked very confused. The fact I don't speak Spanish didn't help. She called over 3 younger guys. I thought, great. Time to get mugged.
I pantomimed asking about girls, massage. Nothing.
Finally I asked for it by name. Hotel Balcones de Cuba.
The guys pointed out a building five feet from the old lady on the corner. It has a giant white metal gate.
Heading to the gate I was buzzed in.
Kind of odd. I walked in, and there was a receptionist who just sort of glared at me.
I asked about massage. She indicated that I should head upstairs.
Heading up some stairs I finally have a guy who speaks English to me.
He explained that 30 minutes was 36 k and an hour was (I think) 56 k.
Then he knocked on each room.
I waited then as girls popped out of the rooms.
Here was another strange thing.
The girls didn't stay in the foyer. They popped out 1 by 1 shook my hand gave their name and then popped back into their respective rooms. About 6 of them.
On average they were too chubby and old for me. Maybe 6's and 8's at Lleras park. Roughly 30's. And over 20% BMI. If you like curvy big butted girls these were for you.
The guy came back and and asked mde the name of the girl I liked. I picked one. He brought in towels, soap and a condom.
The girl took off her top and bottom and got ready. No shower. For me or her.
She didn't insist I put on a condom.
I did anyway.
I was a little scared of that willingness to bareback, do I skipped my normal asking for a BBBJ.
I finished in 20 minutes, headed down where again the guy was nowhere to be found.
I tried to pay the receptionist. No dice.
Eventually I went back up and the guy was there to be paid.
After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.
Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.
I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.
Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018468]Do they at least have any tall ones? I recall they were all short, fat and young last time I was there.
Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?
That's funny, hahaha.[/QUOTE]Haha, short, fat and young about sums them up at Yakusa.
At least yesterday.
The Radual is an area near Eros.
Not sure if one the dive bars is actually called that though.
Haven't seen a good looking girl there in a while.
I've found some keepers around Parque Botero.
Keep your radar on high and eyes open in that area.
At all times, but most especiallly at night.
There are eyes on you for sure, especially if you're being dumb.
(Flashing money, cell, watch, etc).
Don't linger in an area with no people traffic about.
I may check out Face Dos tonite.
Haven't been there in a bit.
See the other side of the tracks.
I'll report back.
[QUOTE=VictorW;2018558]After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).[/QUOTE]Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".
[QUOTE=VictorW;2018558]
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.
I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.
[/QUOTE]There has been discussion of these girls in the past and some of them may not be of age. Everything in El Poblado will be more expensive.
[QUOTE]
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.
There was a fat older woman standing in front ...
After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.
...
Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of things. What made you go to that place? There are dozens of other brothels.
Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2018557]I'll be in Mdellin this weekend.
Any suggestions on what places are good on Sundays usually? I've found Latin America to be less open on Sundays. What are the hot spots for drinks and what are the best casas on Sunday?
Any suggestions on what to do other than mongering and drinking? I figure we'll look around the parks, maybe do that cable car, see a couple of escobar sights. Anything else? I don't think we'll have the time to go out to Guatape.
One more thing. A friend of mine said Escobar's house that he was caught in is now a brothel. Anyone been? Is it simple to get to? He said a friend of his got him in and implied that it wasn't as easy as the other ones.[/QUOTE]
Go to the Medellin Lists thread and read the pdf there. It lists the hours on Sundays for the brothels. Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018703]Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. "[/QUOTE]EEK?? I don't know what language speaker would make those be pronounced like "Parque Lleras", but I am pretty sure that if anyone tries either "Parka Yaris" or "Yaris Parkay" will be not understood ROFL.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2018515]Raudal is on the NW corner of Calle 53 & Carr 54. It was closed when I was there in the day, I think it is a bar.[/QUOTE]Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).
[QUOTE=VictorW;2018558]After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
[/QUOTE]A word of caution for everyone.
Girls in Parque LLeras are never not of age (or at least I've never seen any girl there who looks borderline). I bet in most cases they could be a good option, but overpriced, as you have witnessed (the place is for tourists, especially from USA; US tourists have money; many tourists are not price-conscious ==> it's a gold mine for girls).
I have met in the past a couple of girls there, who tried, after a few drinks in a bar 2 blocks from the Parque, to take my cell phone from my pocket while hugging me dancing (just tried: I took it back from her hand asking like naively "why is it in your hands?" and she replied it was falling). I believe that every place where rich tourists hang out are also a haven for scammers and a variety of thieves. Just be careful and always keep your hands where you keep your things.
Better take ONE girl than two in a room of a love motel or where you stay, until you don't know who is she and you know she's a good honest one. While it may be difficult to keep one girl under control at all times in the room (go to the toilet and a trained thief can take something from your pockets in seconds), it's virtually impossible to keep under control TWO girls. I do that, but almost always with girls I know already.
[QUOTE=VictorW;2018558]
The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.
I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.
[/QUOTE]It's right in the Centro, not in the worst sector but still the Centro, where NOBODY IF NOT EXPERIENCED should go at night. Being muscular does not help, as the danger is not a fight, but a rob.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018703]
Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.[/QUOTE]I was in the MDE in Dec & went to Escobars grave, safe house & the "Prison" & had no trouble whatsoever. I was not standing in the middle of Par-kay Yair-as on a bench yelling though. I simply had a map & asked the Uber driver to bring me there & it was not a problem.
El Mechanico.
I have no comment on the Parque Lleras pronunciation. The guy said he does not speak Spanish.
It is a rare taxi that won't accept a fare from El Poblado to Centro. Finding a taxi to bring you back is not as easy, as the original poster discovered. Any of the casas will call a taxi for you. You can also hail an uber and wait for it at the casa. The metro is OK, buses are also good and there are more convenient bus stops. For 9 k to 10 k from Poblado, I don't know why anyone wouldn't use uber.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2018703]Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".
Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2018708]Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).[/QUOTE]Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2018992]Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.[/QUOTE]I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).
Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).
What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).
In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).
Can we agree you are both at least a little correct and get back to talking about the girls? Street address names and numbers are specific enough after all.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2019105]I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).
Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).
What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).
In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).[/QUOTE]
In Colombia you can have sex from age 14.
You can pay for sex from 18.
Porn is 18 or 20.
If you go to a casa and have sex there, you assume she is 18. I now realize that a few of the girls at casas in el centro may not been 18. Should one ask for her cedula before sex?
On the site Latineuro I met a nympho-model, claimed to be 19, but was 17, she finally confessed.
She was from a distant town so after 6 months of begging, I invited her to my apartment in Laureles. A Godess! But she did not want to have any money and I did not offer any.
But even if she was a Perfect Ten, there is a risk. She can / will certainly / as all latinas pick a fight. If police come by and see that she is under 18, she had just 9 days left to her birthday, I still have anxiety about that weekend.
Also: If you rent an apartment and are alone; never take home more than one girl, at least at night time.
I stayed in Medellin a semester and ended up with experiences / rutines; control of her cedula, she can send a photo from her celular, that she not bring a friend nighttime, check her behavior, she is likely to have taken some "pericero" or mariujana to relax, both for the sex, but more for doing a crime. A code-secure-box, fixed to the wall, best set in your closet, that you can also have extra locks on.
If I had 15 girls in my apartment, 5 "amigas", there where no risk. But 3-5 made me nervous. One part is loosing my documents, another the scandal factor, and the police factor, even if they say you are innocent.
If I would do it today, I would bring up secure amigas, and when for erotic pleasure, a High End Girl.
I prefer Energy and New Life, mostly New Life; it's a place which worn down, but clean and you don't get robbed. Energy, are they still lacking hot water?
Find a favorite and then bring her home. She has / hopefully / learned that you are a normal person and not a maniac.
Mongering will still be a Catch 22 about sex / security.
I've been here two days, staying near Parque LLeras ("Jheer-ahs") cause I have a pal who gives me a good deal.
First night: met with a new independent girl from one of the two big websites, who I confirmed uses whatsapp and the advertised photos are of her.
Considering I was new to her we had a great time. No problems. Furthering my experience that most independent prepagos will give a good service if all is agreed to in advance.
Second time: I met with an established University girl who I met last trip. 100% perfect. She is a 20 year old angel from a poor family who really wants to educate herself.
We have the best time. Perfect situation. A dream encounter. By the way, she could be a supermodel and she is a definite 10.150 mil for 90 minutes.
Third time: I can't be with my dream college girl 24/7 so I picked a girl from mileroticos. Stunning photo and she used whatsapp. I asked if she was the girl in the photo, she said yes. She asked me to visit her.
In her apartment and I agreed because it sometimes beats waiting for the girl to come to your place. I arrived in a beautiful new complex in La Mota barrio. When I arrived at her apartment I found it was a mini brothel with three bedrooms and she was not the girl in the photo. Bottom line. A horrible experience, she tried to change up everything we agreed upon prior with whatsapp. I told her I'm leaving, then she agreed to honor our prior agreement of 90 minutes with oral natural for 160. Her body was a perfect 10 with a cute face, so I stayed but. She was estrato 1 and acted like she was a zombie and things couldn't have been worse. In my opinion these very poor girls are taken advantage of in these mini or large brothels and the client is the worse off for it. (IMHO Cartagena mongering has been destroyed by these slave brothels, I lived there for two years.) During our time she acted like she feared for her life and our session was interrupted two times by other girls asking to borrow towelettes. I had the worst experience ever with this girl.
My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
Oh, as has been written here, the service in Carulla Supermarket is pathetic and Crepes and Waffles is just as bad. I've been to Crepes & Waffles perhaps 25 times and the senoras who work there simply don't give a shit. They completely ignore you when you tell them what you want, like bread and butter and you have to ask twice or thrice and they never acknowledge their complete no give a shit attitude and pathetic service. And yes, my Spanish is more than fine. My theory is that the are paid pennies and work 6 days a week and simply don't give a phuck. Whatever.
In general I've had perfect relations with the locals in the drug stores & restaurants. As I've learned, if you try to speak their language they are very kind and helpful. The only problem is that every city in Colombia uses a different set of verbs. I learned my Spanish in Cartagena and the locals in Medellin use a whole different set of verbs. For a non native Spanish speaker, learning Spanish is a lifetime commitment. .
[QUOTE=Nektar;2020084]My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.[/QUOTE]Good reporting bro. I agree about Whatsapp. Sometime they will have these stupid quotes or flowery crap as their main profile pic though, so you may have to ask them to send you a pic to verify she is who she says she is.
[QUOTE=Nektar;2020084]
My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
[/QUOTE]Last year I was in Medellin and I used the back pages and I had a similar experience. However, these girls were on whatsapp. I'm not sure it makes a difference.
So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788]So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).[/QUOTE]I've seen one way Viva Colombia to Medellin for I think it was $74, last minute fare. If you're able to go on short notice, you can get some real deals.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2020825]I've seen one way Viva Colombia to Medellin for I think it was $74, last minute fare. If you're able to go on short notice, you can get some real deals.[/QUOTE]The fares actually start at $56 one way, but you have to add $35 ea way if you want to check a bag. And can only bring a small carry on.
[URL]https://www.vivacolombia.co/en-co[/URL]
Here's the billing detail for my flight down:
Fares.
Adult (s) 1 x USD $ 16.00.
Admin Fee USD $ 7.50.
Total fare: USD $ 23.50.
Additional services.
Checked luggage USD $ 35.00.
Total additional services USD $ 35.00.
Taxes.
11th of September security tax. Adult 1 x USD $ 5. 60.
Tourism tax CO. Adult 1 x USD $ 15.00.
Airport tax. Adult 1 x USD $ 18.00.
Passenger Facility Charge (PFC) - Adult 1 x USD $ 4. 50.
Total airport taxes USD $ 43.10.
Total departing flight USD $ 101.60.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788](Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).[/QUOTE]Tell that [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] she needs to clean her damn room and get those dogs off the bed. I guess for some guys all it takes is how a woman looks.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2020873]Tell that.[/QUOTE]Hell, she comes to me! LOL.
Plus, looking like that she can eat crackers in bed.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788]So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).[/QUOTE]Mr Wolf,
All due respect, after she flaked the first time. Maaaaybe the second adequate believable excuse, you should've, at the least gently, cut off her SB status to potential SB funding until she made good. At this point, I'd figure this situation is spoiled, would just cost more sugar-daddying to get back to zero, & move on. Don't treat them like [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] but definitely don't let them treat you like one either, or neither of you can ever respect the other. Time to move on. Never know, she may accept you truly have all the leverage and make things right.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788]So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).[/QUOTE]
No such thing as so fine that you have to put up with their shit when you're paying.
Hope you're not having sex with her in that bed.
[QUOTE=TellAll;2020947]No such thing as so fine that you have to put up with their shit when you're paying.
Hope you're not having sex with her in that bed.[/QUOTE]Also Wolf, be careful. That woman has implants, a big head (possibly 2 big heads), some square ass shoulders, and no hips. And 9.9 times out of 10 you don't see a real woman standing with her body positioned like that (arched back). That could be the reason that you are being stood up.
I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.
Doesn't the cost of gas and parking make the drive from Tampa to Miami airport a close call? If I understood right it's a $244 difference. The parking and gas is I assume at least $100. I'm curious because I'm always looking for a bargain! VivaColombia has a cooler name than American. I can't believe VivaColombia can be as bad as Spirit.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788]So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.
5 nights booked at Botero Medellin again at $26 a night. WOOHOOOO!
(Here's pic's of the SB so you can see why I am putting up with that at all. LOL).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021068]I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.[/QUOTE]From my interaction with the Colombian girls, Cartagena is not only a tourist destination for foreign tourists, but popular for Colombians as well. They either have been there, or want to go there for vacation. I am sure you can find some willing souls who will jump on a free trip offer without compensation for their time or maybe some small gifts at the most. In January, 2 separate amigas invited me to party with them at a big annual music festival in Cartagena, and both are college educated. Another one also just got back from a few days vacation there as well.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2021108]From my interaction with the Colombian girls, Cartagena is not only a tourist destination for foreign tourists, but popular for Colombians as well. They either have been there, or want to go there for vacation. I am sure you can find some willing souls who will jump on a free trip offer without compensation for their time or maybe some small gifts at the most. In January, 2 separate amigas invited me to party with them at a big annual music festival in Cartagena, and both are college educated. Another one also just got back from a few days vacation there as well.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've also had "normal" chicas want to go visit me there. Of course they were expecting a free trip out of it, and everything to come out of my pocket. I was interested in hearing opinions on whether it's something I should try with the SWs if I find a decent one. I can't think of a reason why not if she's not crazy.
The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021109]Yes, I've also had "normal" chicas want to go visit me there. Of course they were expecting a free trip out of it, and everything to come out of my pocket. I was interested in hearing opinions on whether it's something I should try with the SWs if I find a decent one. I can't think of a reason why not if she's not crazy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021070]Doesn't the cost of gas and parking make the drive from Tampa to Miami airport a close call? If I understood right it's a $244 difference. The parking and gas is I assume at least $100. I'm curious because I'm always looking for a bargain! VivaColombia has a cooler name than American. I can't believe VivaColombia can be as bad as Spirit.[/QUOTE]Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
MIA also has a free motorcycle parking area in the parking garages right at the airport, covered, may do that, my bike gets 50-60 mpg. Just throw a backpack on the back. Lock the bike and helmet and throw on a bike cover, set the alarm.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021068]I'm spending a week in Medellin followed by Cartagena. I like Cartagena more for the tourist aspect but the girls are too expensive. A girl I met there who I kept in touch with wanted 600 k minimum to wife up. Insane pricing.
I'm curious, would it be a bad idea to find a beauty in Centro and take her with me to Cartagena? I'm going to hit up the locations by the church + that raudal corner. If they're just charging 30 k I bet I could para llevar for a few hundred k to Cartagena. I'd have to find that diamond in the rough though. I don't want a glue sniffer.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Might work. Might not, I didn't even take those girls to my hotel and that was 2 blocks away.
These are very low end barriogirls, one step above street urchins, you may get a good one or you may get one with a switchblade and scopolamine in her purse and wake up with everything gone.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021153]Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
MIA also has a free motorcycle parking area in the parking garages right at the airport, covered, may do that, my bike gets 50-60 mpg. Just throw a backpack on the back. Lock the bike and helmet and throw on a bike cover, set the alarm.[/QUOTE]Kinda naïve to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021152]The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.[/QUOTE]It would cheaper sand though.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021155]Hmmm. Might work. Might not, I didn't even take those girls to my hotel and that was 2 blocks away.
These are very low end barriogirls, one step above street urchins, you may get a good one or you may get one with a switchblade and scopolamine in her purse and wake up with everything gone.[/QUOTE]Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.
Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688.
A one time Colombian Playboy model from Romance Latina told me. " I live in Bogota since there I'm a 10, here in Medellin I'm only a 6". Alex, my paisa friend confirmed directly.
Paisas have by an evolutionary pattern, got the perfect mix for beauty and enhancing it in every way possible. Paisas work out like maniacs + spend all they can on plastic surgery + fashion.
Bogota have girls like Madrid. Few guapas. To white population, while Medellin combine black / indian / european in a luckily way.
I must say that this have a equally reverse effect on IQ, due to malnutrition, toxic air,and cultural behavior, especially when Medellin are the new Rio. Education is more about betting the title, while Bogota sooner or later will be an industrial metropol on the global scale. All indicators point in that direction. Rolos are smarter! It is not about race. It is about nutrition. In Arequipa Peru I worked with this; children does not get milk and loses brain development that is hard to repair. Rolos are also, while being ugly / read fat / girls, like US girls; it's all about the career, while paisas focus on getting financial support from Swiss traditional assistance, local and federal programs, extranjeros and "amigos", and still the biggest influx of "net net" narco dollars.
Cartagena is a traditional place for all types of groups and individuals, Colombias Nassau (Black Sails). There will always be a mix of everything. And the heat kills you. The clubs have a concentration of the All 10's in Boca Grande and Laquito, but you only stay for a few days, while a month in Medellin compensate by far for that; you find the same girls for half the price at last and stay with them. Cartagena are for shorttimers, like going to Las Vegas.
Cali. It surprises me. They are more horny and liberal than paisas, but it's to hot. Medellins average 25 see degree year -round, makes it so much more comfortable. Still; Cali and calenas are The capital of salsa and it's much easier to get a calena into a date or payed sex than a paisa. Maybe just a trend that guys in Cali have lost the publishing fight against the Medellin guys.
Medellin are surpassing Rio de Janiero fast. Which was the party / sex capital for half a century! And there are superhot girls, but the 14% Central bank interest rate makes the overvalued Real Rio a no-go place. Even if the garotas truly are even much better lovers and much more relaxed than paisas who demand luxury for free! With a 30-40% natural fall of the Real, Rio will be back. And Help also!
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2021233]Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688...[/QUOTE]What do these numbers refer to?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2021209]Kinda nave to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.[/QUOTE]None of that really adds up to much in my case.
30,000 mile tires, $360, so about $6.50 of tire wear.
I use Mobil-1 15,000 mile oil, $40 inc oil change, so about $1.40 there.
I haven't got a ticket in about 10 years. Last accident was 1993 ish.
Car's a 2002 with 145,000 m, another 500 m won't make much of a diff there.
The problem for me would be the 3 to 4 hour drive at the beginning and end of my trip. I'd rather pay a couple of hundred dollars more to avoid that.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2021209]Kinda nave to think that gas is the only marginal cost of driving. You have tire wear, periodic maintenance, greater exposure to accidents and tickets, the loss in value of the vehicle, and yada yada yada.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2020788]So my latest US sugar baby off SA has stood me up the last few times, pissed me off, so I booked a flight back to Medellin in June, $227 RT out of Miami on VivaColombia Airlines.
I paid $471 on American Airlines out of Tampa via Miami last time, I'll just drive down to Miami to save that much.[/QUOTE]Copa Air has round trip flights out of Orlando for $265, with no extra charges. Also, free meals on the flights. Their prices change often, but that is the price right now for flights most of next month.
Just returned from Medellin. Beautiful city and beautiful women.
I used the PDF with the casas. The map didn't work on my phone. It was very helpful and with uber being so cheap we could go wherever with no problem. Of the cheap casas my favorite was new life. Both times I went there was a large selection of girls that were very attractive with solid rooms. The location is very seedy but the cafe next door has good WiFi so it was easy to uber out afterwards.
Botero is definitely a shady area. I was solicited aggressively by 3 girls who couldn't have been more than 14 years old in broad daylight there. Pretty sad. Worth going to that Plaza once but I'd never go back. Seeing my uber pull up was quite the relief.
Energy is closed by 6 on Sunday. There is a_? Down for the Sunday time in the pdf. We stopped by around 545 on Sunday afternoon and they were definitely closed.
Fase 2 was a rip off imo. Drinks were ridiculously priced. It was essentially the same experience you get in a Florida strip club.
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras. In many cases they aren't flaunting it but me and my friend also enjoy hitting on women and in most cases the women we were attempting to pick up ended up asking for money after a while. We had a nice airbnb around Calle 10 a that I'd highly recommend (you can pm me for info on that) and both brought girls back for a decent price (their 200 k asking price dropped quickly with negotiation).
Overall a good trip.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021217]Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.[/QUOTE]I would not advise taking a street hooker on an overnight trip.
First ask, if they have a passport, 95% don't.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2021311]I would not advise taking a street hooker on an overnight trip.
First ask, if they have a passport, 95% don't.[/QUOTE]Why would they need a passport for a 1 hour flight to Cartagena?
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2021302].
Fase 2 was a rip off imo. Drinks were ridiculously priced. It was essentially the same experience you get in a Florida strip club.
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras. In many cases they aren't flaunting it but me and my friend also enjoy hitting on women and in most cases the women we were attempting to pick up ended up asking for money after a while. We had a nice airbnb around Calle 10 a that I'd highly recommend (you can pm me for info on that) and both brought girls back for a decent price (their 200 k asking price dropped quickly with negotiation).
[/QUOTE]I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021152]The expression "bringing sand to the beach" comes to mind.[/QUOTE][I]LLevar lenha al monte[/I], they say in Colombia.
Like some guy living in New York wants to have holidays in Honolulu, so he stops over in Tulsa to buy food to bring there, because it's cheaper. Savvy way to limit expenses.
However, if one wants a cheaper girl in CTG, there are millions of people living in 50 km radius from Cartagena, Reloy. Plenty of opportunities without flying someone there from Medellin (I assume he does not really love that girl met in Veracruz).
I am thinking now that years ago I did exactly the opposite, and for 3 years in a row. In MDE for work a couple of weeks, I invited there a girl from her hometown few hours from Cartagena, to spend with me at Sheraton 3 days of holidays in Medellin (agreement: "I pay you the flight, you are my guest, we also go buy some better clothes, I treat you as my novia, and thus I don't pay you. OK???" OK.). I met her at Reloy originally, and she caught my heart.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2021302]
Also, there are tons of hookers walking around Lleras.
[/QUOTE]No there aren't. There are a FEW hookers. Sure. Not a TON. A TON is what you saw around Botero plaza.
Time ago, here there was a long discussion about hiring a girl met virtually on a webcam site, covering all various topics like how much would she want, how much does she earns from her webcam job, etc. Etc.
Needless to say, I think it would be a very bad idea. With all the stunners that one can meet for real in the real world in Colombia, I don't see why one should pay an exorbitant money to touch physically someone who looks sexy on cam, but he does not know how she looks for real, what is her attitude, conversation, or just tit squeezing feeling if one is not interested to conversation.
However, I have a story to tell.
Few months ago, I met a nice girl in CTG, Reloy. Read the report here (Girl No. 2):
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1979408#post1979408[/URL]
Look at her tits (photo at right)!!
In short: she was a barrio teen, very pretty and sexy, 21 yo, asking only 80k for her job (most girls at Reloy are adamant in sticking to 200k for 1 hour, only some go down to 150k, several even ask 300k). I did not miss the opportunity!
She has a kid, and her hubby in jail.
She was so nice with me, that I kept in touch on Facebook Messenger. It's somehow a strong feeling for me having the opportunity to peek into the private real life of a girl, who I met just for a good fuck in a short time hotel but then I befriended. I could see her having a barbecue with relatives (also some big boys with tattooed arms like in worst reggaetton videos), hugging the baby, etc.
She's not in CTG anymore. She went back to her small hometown near Pereira. She told me she found some jobs, including even at a gas station. Imagine having a girl with that body serving you gasoline in your car.
Two weeks ago, she tells me she started to work as webcam girl at Bongacams. Unbelievable for me! She tells me she's happy because the job is easy (yes) and she earns something. How much? She works at regular work shift as in a office: 7am-2pm daily. She goes to the work place every morning as any office employee, she has her room, she connects and waits people to watch her and pay private shows. She gets the minimum basic legal salary (940 kCOP/month) like in a supermarket, fixed salary, plus some incentive if she get more than and points from customers. No, webcam girls are not rich.
She told me her nick on the webcam site, so that I could peek at her. Usually, we believe that girls on webcam sites look sexy on cam, but probably would be disappointing if met for real. Well, this case is exactly the opposite. In real life, she is a dream lol-ita, with perfect body and delicate face and smile like a princess. On webcam, she's just one as many others, even sleazy. Nothing to be impressed.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021255]What do these numbers refer to?[/QUOTE]It was no tourist in medellin in the 1980/90's. Palm Tree Hostel opened around 2000 as the first hostel aiming at extranjeros.
The change has been enourmous.
50% of Colombian export is oil, down from over 150 to under 50 at worst (yet), and Medellin textile industry fight head on with asian manufacturers.
That's why, after 2002-2014, Medellin has been falling back into it's usual habits.
All that construction that has going on the last decade are solid, until 2013/14, that is buit on speculation.
I never seen prepagos in masses around Parque Lleras as described, since that kind of activity was only accepted in La Mayorista under police survaillance.
Now, with the economy falling apart, police, social authorities, loans, projects can't stop the bubble to bursting.
That can, would mean an fantastic place for a monger; asking price for a hot babe 200, real price 100 (US $35). Negative and dangerous is the under 18 girls. Check her ID before sex.
At Luna Lunera you are not obligated to sit in the dark area. You should have used your not so bad Spanish to ask for the girls to present themselves in a lighted area, like the rooms. I've had no problems seeing the girls but I always sit near the cashier. The dark part of the bar with the lights and stripper pole is all designed to get you to pay for nothing of value (lady drinks, lap dances, etc.).
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2021363]I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021153]Well my house in St Pete to MIA is 269 miles ea way, so 538 miles total, my car gets 32 mpg highway, so 16.8 gal x $2. 399 a gal = $40 in gas, $8 a day in long term parking =$48.
So about $90, so I still come out $154 ahead.
[/QUOTE]A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154. That's $20-25/ hour at best. Throw in the fatigue factor on the return trip & it's not worth it.
The reason I responded is I struggle with the same issue every trip. 2 hours to New Orleans Or 4 hours to Houston. The minimal savings is not woth being on the road for that long, especially on the return trip. JMHO.
Good luck & be safe!!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021255]What do these numbers refer to?[/QUOTE]
Medellin 26,446.
Cartagena 8,541.
Bogota 5,450.
Cali 4,083.
General 4,614.
MDE 26,446 vs. General + City Cartel 22,688.
CJS, again, what do these Numbers refer to? Number of tourists per year??
Thanks,
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021512]At Luna Lunera you are not obligated to sit in the dark area. You should have used your not so bad Spanish to ask for the girls to present themselves in a lighted area, like the rooms. I've had no problems seeing the girls but I always sit near the cashier. The dark part of the bar with the lights and stripper pole is all designed to get you to pay for nothing of value (lady drinks, lap dances, etc.).[/QUOTE]Thanks,! I'll try it if I go back. After more than 5 months here, I have a lot of friends, and friends of friends.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2021516]A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154. That's $20-25/ hour at best. Throw in the fatigue factor on the return trip & it's not worth it...[/QUOTE]Oh I agree it is suboptimal. But last time I went down with my tax refund, this time every extra dollar is going to help. And as a professional driver (fuel trucks / party buses) $20+ a HR for driving is pretty good. Just can't decide if I want to save even more and take the bike to MIA. That'll save me the parking $ and use less gas.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2021461]Time ago, here there was a long discussion about hiring a girl met virtually on a webcam site, covering all various topics like how much would she want, how much does she earns from her webcam job, etc. Etc.
Needless to say, I think it would be a very bad idea. With all the stunners that one can meet for real in the real world in Colombia, I don't see why one should pay an exorbitant money to touch physically someone who looks sexy on cam, but he does not know how she looks for real, what is her attitude, conversation, or just tit squeezing feeling if one is not interested to conversation.
However, I have a story to tell.
Few months ago, I met a nice girl in CTG, Reloy. Read the report here (Girl No. 2):
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1979408#post1979408[/URL]
Look at her tits (photo at right)!!
In short: she was a barrio teen, very pretty and sexy, 21 yo, asking only 80k for her job (most girls at Reloy are adamant in sticking to 200k for 1 hour, only some go down to 150k, several even ask 300k). I did not miss the opportunity!
She has a kid, and her hubby in jail.
She was so nice with me, that I kept in touch on Facebook Messenger. It's somehow a strong feeling for me having the opportunity to peek into the private real life of a girl, who I met just for a good fuck in a short time hotel but then I befriended. I could see her having a barbecue with relatives (also some big boys with tattooed arms like in worst reggaetton videos), hugging the baby, etc.
She's not in CTG anymore. She went back to her small hometown near Pereira. She told me she found some jobs, including even at a gas station. Imagine having a girl with that body serving you gasoline in your car.
Two weeks ago, she tells me she started to work as webcam girl at Bongacams. Unbelievable for me! She tells me she's happy because the job is easy (yes) and she earns something. How much? She works at regular work shift as in a office: 7am-2pm daily. She goes to the work place every morning as any office employee, she has her room, she connects and waits people to watch her and pay private shows. She gets the minimum basic legal salary (940 kCOP/month) like in a supermarket, fixed salary, plus some incentive if she get more than and points from customers. No, webcam girls are not rich.
She told me her nick on the webcam site, so that I could peek at her. Usually, we believe that girls on webcam sites look sexy on cam, but probably would be disappointing if met for real. Well, this case is exactly the opposite. In real life, she is a dream lol-ita, with perfect body and delicate face and smile like a princess. On webcam, she's just one as many others, even sleazy. Nothing to be impressed.[/QUOTE]As with all things YMMV. You are talking about a girl from a poor family, who has never had much. She is excited to earn about $300 US per month with possible bonuses. She is probably working from a shabby little room, with a cheap laptop and cheap cam.
As I write this I'm sitting next to a webcam girl in a Poblado high-rise. She looks just as good in person as on cam. The apartment is a spacious 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom in a nice estrato 6 area. In just a few minutes I'll be having lunch with another webcam girl, same situation. Both grew up in middle to upper middle class families, both are well educated and both realize this is their highest earning potential at this time.
However, neither would go to a room with you or me, for any price. Why risk it when they make more in 4 hours than your example makes in 2 weeks?
In all things, there are different classes. While her body might make her look great, in Colombia her social class is what she will always be judged on. The people she works for exploit that. They pay her estrato 2 wages because they know she will accept it.
With training, a good workspace and the right equipment, she could work 10 hours per week and make at least double what she makes now.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021217]It would cheaper sand though.
Do you or anyone else here know if the Mayorista girls are any better? A 30-50 k a pop I could probably rent one long term for real cheap for Cartagena. Cartagena's pricing is insane despite the peso's rise. And I have a feeling the ladies there enforce a minimum price.[/QUOTE]Best bet:
Hit the casas.
Find one you bond with.
See her outside the casa.
Invite her on a trip if you like.
Though I've found a couple keepers from Centro, the vast majority are not.
As far as the Mayo goes.
Quality has been way down. Sad really.
Unless you wanna invite Aunt Bea to Cartagena, Lol
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2021600]As I write this I'm sitting next to a webcam girl in a Poblado high-rise. She looks just as good in person as on cam. The apartment is a spacious 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom in a nice estrato 6 area. In just a few minutes I'll be having lunch with another webcam girl, same situation. Both grew up in middle to upper middle class families, both are well educated and both realize this is their highest earning potential at this time.
However, neither would go to a room with you or me, for any price. Why risk it when they make more in 4 hours than your example makes in 2 weeks?[/QUOTE]I am confused. The girls won't go to your apartment (because of risk), but they will invite you to their apartment. Seems about the same risk. I suppose the risk you are referring to is of them being exposed. Also, what is the lunch situation, did she prepare lunch?
Maybe the barrio girl has the better life. She can go out and be with people; whereas, your girls have to be confined to their apartment.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand the situation.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2021645]
As far as the Mayo goes.
Quality has been way down. Sad really.
Unless you wanna invite Aunt Bea to Cartagena, Lol[/QUOTE]I'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.
I don't ride motorcycles but I suspect you might regret taking the bike if you were to encounter one of those unexpected Florida rainstorms.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021591]Oh I agree it is suboptimal. But last time I went down with my tax refund, this time every extra dollar is going to help. And as a professional driver (fuel trucks / party buses) $20+ a HR for driving is pretty good. Just can't decide if I want to save even more and take the bike to MIA. That'll save me the parking $ and use less gas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2021516]A minimum of 6 to 8 hours driving and 1/2 of that after hitting it hard in Colombia. All to save $154.[/QUOTE]And a extra $150 will get me 15 Centro girls. LOL.
Sup Playas,
Just thought I'd be a team player and post this interesting read about estratos. It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live. Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado? Thanks.
[URL]http://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.medellin.gov.co/irj/go/km/docs/wpccontent/Sites/Subportal%20del%20Ciudadano/Planeaci%C3%B3n%20Municipal/Secciones/Indicadores%20y%20Estad%C3%ADsticas/Documentos/Estratificaci%C3%B3n/ESTRATO_PREDOMINANTE%20POR%20BARRIO_2010.pdf[/URL]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2021660]I am confused. The girls won't go to your apartment (because of risk), but they will invite you to their apartment. Seems about the same risk. I suppose the risk you are referring to is of them being exposed. Also, what is the lunch situation, did she prepare lunch?
Maybe the barrio girl has the better life. She can go out and be with people; whereas, your girls have to be confined to their apartment.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to understand the situation.[/QUOTE]I'll try my best to explain.
Some of my friends here are webcam models. One of them happens to be my roommate. We were sitting and waiting for some other friends, one of which is also a webcam model. They arrived and we all hopped in a Uber for a short trip to a nearby restaurant for comida tipica. After a good lunch we took a short walk.
One friend had something to do, where I will be working, so him and I went to the office while the girls took off to do their own thing. What he was involved in took 3 hours. Even though I could understand only a little of what was being said, I enjoyed hanging out with a bunch of hot webcam girls.
They were all nice, normal women, who had come from their various homes to participate in the same thing I was hanging out and watching. One theme that kept being repeated was that they were not prostitutes.
This is nothing against prostitution. The webcam discussion started because of the assumption that all the webcam models, and there are several thousand in Medellin, are available for a price. Certainly there are some who use the webcam to advertise the other services, but there are many who would never consider prostitution. We could go over the old argument that it's all the same, but it isn't to them.
As for being confined, none of them are confined. They go where they want, when they want and do what they want, with whoever they want. One that I met today just returned from Italy, another just got back from a trip to the US. Two others are getting ready to travel.
The risks I'm talking about are the various risks associated with prostitution. There's disease, pregnancy, the risk of violence, even the risk of death. Inviting a stranger into your home can be dangerous. Going to a stranger's home can be dangerous.
Does that explain it?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021664]I'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.[/QUOTE]I'll probably take a daytime stroll through Mayorista next week. I will be doing some exploring and will try to give you a report on what I see.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021664]I'm fine going MILF. When was the last time you were there? So much talk about webcams and "tons of hookers in parque lleras" and yet Mayorista looks like the only tolerance zone outside of Centro. I'd love to hear more about it.
I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, just don't get your hopes too high in those 2 areas.
An occasional gem in Centro, Mayorista even more rare these days.
I was there last week.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2021703]I'll probably take a daytime stroll through Mayorista next week. I will be doing some exploring and will try to give you a report on what I see.[/QUOTE]Daytime is pretty slim pickins at the Mayo.
There is one nice girl there daytime who I've befriended.
Not a raving beauty, but a nice person at a 7.
You'll see.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2021702]The webcam discussion started because of the assumption that all the webcam models, and there are several thousand in Medellin, are available for a price. Certainly there are some who use the webcam to advertise the other services, but there are many who would never consider prostitution. [/QUOTE]I used to talk to a chick in Bogota that had to get it off her chest, but was ashamed to admit to me that she is (back then) a cam girl. She was doing it to put herself through school. We would be talking to each other on cam while she was in her sexy clothes and with her toys to her side. When whatever happens when a guy chooses her happens she would click me off and go to doing whatever cam girls do. I did everything in my power to fuck this woman but she would never go for it. She would always say I am too hungry like I am not supposed to want to fuck (or like she is not supposed to want to either). Sometimes I took her out and sometimes she took me out but we never got anywhere near fucking.
She finally hooked me up with one of her friends. When her friend met me at the airport my tongue fell to the floor. This was 7 or 8 years ago and I still have not fucked her either. I have sucked on her tits, got her to play with my dick, and jacked off on her stomach, but that is as far as it has gone in all these years. I was even with her last week when I was in Colombia and she still hollers about how she is not ready. WTF.
I can't figure out for the life of me how either of them managed to have a kid. This is the chick that the first chick hooked me up with. To me she is drop dead gorgeous and maybe (but probably not) I would be a different man if she would get her act together and get her legs the opposite of together. For some reason the picture won't upload.
Running low on Aguardiente! LOL.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2021708]Sounds good, just don't get your hopes too high in those 2 areas.
An occasional gem in Centro, Mayorista even more rare these days.
I was there last week.[/QUOTE]What time does it get hopping at night and average pricing? Hey man feel free to PM me if you know more about the area but don't want to post here. It just seems like it's a good night hang out, instead of centro or the garbage that's in El Gringado. Haha.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021664]I'm going to be there week of the 24th and Centro + Mayorista are the main reasons I'm going.[/QUOTE]Disappointment on the way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2021752]I used to talk to a chick in Bogota that had to get it off her chest, but was ashamed to admit to me that she is (back then) a cam girl. She was doing it to put herself through school. We would be talking to each other on cam while she was in her sexy clothes and with her toys to her side. When whatever happens when a guy chooses her happens she would click me off and go to doing whatever cam girls do. I did everything in my power to fuck this woman but she would never go for it. She would always say I am too hungry like I am not supposed to want to fuck (or like she is not supposed to want to either). Sometimes I took her out and sometimes she took me out but we never got anywhere near fucking.
She finally hooked me up with one of her friends. When her friend met me at the airport my tongue fell to the floor. This was 7 or 8 years ago and I still have not fucked her either. I have sucked on her tits, got her to play with my dick, and jacked off on her stomach, but that is as far as it has gone in all these years. I was even with her last week when I was in Colombia and she still hollers about how she is not ready. WTF.
I can't figure out for the life of me how either of them managed to have a kid. This is the chick that the first chick hooked me up with. To me she is drop dead gorgeous and maybe (but probably not) I would be a different man if she would get her act together and get her legs the opposite of together. For some reason the picture won't upload.[/QUOTE]I know how to get her.
It's the whole "boy leaves the village, comes back a man".
So you disapear and don't contact for 6 months. You hit the gym up hard. Like 6 x a week. Youll have a ton of a confidence and then 6 months later, send a message.
You will be totally new and you can hit it.
I did this and it worked!
To be honest after I fucked her, it was sort of a let down. She was and is a hot paisa but it just wasn't what I expected. But I did get out of it was leading a healhty way of life.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2021901]Disappointment on the way.[/QUOTE]Might be but I think you're assuming I'm looking for young and pretty. If a girl doesn't have hips wider than her waist and is over 25 I usually don't have any interest. If she has hips wider than her shoulders and is over 30 she's on my 'must fuck list. '.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2021699]And a extra $150 will get me 15 Centro girls. LOL.[/QUOTE]I hear you Wolf. I too am on a shoestring budget whenever I go to CR, Panama or Colombia. I have to save where I can. I admire someone who does what they have to do to enjoy their stay. After 2 or 3 trips out of other airports, I have come to realize that the 2 or 3 days to recover after the trip & the 2 to 4 hour drive are just not worth it for me! Good luck & enjoy.
Be Safe,
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2021701]Sup Playas,
It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live.[/QUOTE]I agree, completely. But most or all of us do not treat lower strata girls that way, and I do not pay more for seemingly higher strata girls. Thinking right now of a beauty that I nixed because she acted like she was special and deserved 300 k for "un tiempo". She seemed to think so much of herself that she did not need to agree on terms in advance and appeared to believe I would be lucky to have her come. I could tell she was going to try to work me.
Conversely, I find the lower strata girls have the opportunity to be respectful to guys like me (or us?) who do not try to low ball them just because they come from a low strata neighborhood. But more often than not they will attempt to get away with what they can and often do not act in a way that warrants repeats. I don't understand it but I guess they end up malformed and think "transactionally" as they would a deal on the corner in their barrio. A lot of what I expect about how people should think must be that I have a more well rounded mentality due to a society where most of my basic needs are available and attainable so I think further, or higher. They generally do not and seem unable to. We might think the low strata girls we meet would be dying for someone to be good and treat them "equally". But they are not, they see us as tourists to be exploited if we let them, the same way they expect to be potentially exploited in deals they make otherwise. Seems normal to them.
In a nutshell, instead of thinking you are great because you give 150k+ they likely think you are dumber than the average successful Colombian. Twisted huh?
[QUOTE]Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado?[/QUOTE]Generally a fair amount lower. I have friends that live in Envigado and not sure there is a strata as expensive as MDE's most expensive and even if an Envigado strata 5 or 6 probably not as expensive as a MDE 5 or 6- just guessing. Sabaneta and itaqui likely have significantly lower COL than even Envigado.
Here is some COL info on MDE and Envigado although I believe there is less info included on the Envigado COL report.
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Medellin[/URL]
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Envigado-Colombia[/URL]
FWIW, Envigado is a very sweet area. I like it a lot. It's just a little far out. But apartments are cheap, it's safe, and via metro or taxi everything is accessible. But convenient? Not always.
I would not assume a girl from Envigado, Itagui, or Sabaneta expects to be paid less however.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2022012]
Conversely, I find the lower strata girls have the opportunity to be respectful to guys like me (or us?) who do not try to low ball them just because they come from a low strata neighborhood. But more often than not they will attempt to get away with what they can and often do not act in a way that warrants repeats. I don't understand it but I guess they end up malformed and think "transactionally" as they would a deal on the corner in their barrio. A lot of what I expect about how people should think must be that I have a more well rounded mentality due to a society where most of my basic needs are available and attainable so I think further, or higher. They generally do not and seem unable to. We might think the low strata girls we meet would be dying for someone to be good and treat them "equally". But they are not, they see us as tourists to be exploited if we let them, the same way they expect to be potentially exploited in deals they make otherwise. Seems normal to them.
In a nutshell, instead of thinking you are great because you give 150k+ they likely think you are dumber than the average successful Colombian. Twisted huh?
[/QUOTE]Pretty spot on. This girl from Cali that I met in Cartagena wanted 600 k for a full day, then said 300 k para un rato. I was just letting her know I'd be in Cartagena soon. When I told her I'd give her 200 k for a quick bang at a nearby love hotel she laughed and told me I have her confused with a friend. I'm like WTF. I'm doing what I always do in these situations and just move on. Mind you she's great in bed, but she's too money hungry for me. She even wanted me to buy her a Michael Kors watch and matching purse to bring to her. WTF haha.
You're better off with the semi-pros. The ones who put themselves on the market for a short period of time to pay bills. They're more willing to be reasonable and keep a long term friends with benefits relationship.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022020]She even wanted me to buy her a Michael Kors watch and matching purse to bring to her. WTF haha.
.[/QUOTE]It can be insulting right? There must be enough of us who are "sad" that do that to make them believe most of us will, and that it won't hurt to ask. But it does. We usually nix those girls, right?
Do you think they ever realize that they actually lost money by turning you off?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022020] then said 300 k para un rato[/QUOTE]I rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2022035]
Do you think they ever realize that they actually lost money by turning you off?[/QUOTE]Absolutely. This one in particular I know lost out on revenue. As a business decision it makes no sense. She's great in bed and a good looking woman (if a bit older and chubbier) but she would insist on 300 k like it was religion to her just to hit the hotel next to LDV. The last night I saw her she was standing outside LDV smoking a cigaratte alone at 2 am. I had a girl with me who agreed to go back to my place for 200 k.
Fuck her. There are hundreds more like her I can have.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2022061]I rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.[/QUOTE]
I believe she used "tiempo" and not "rato." I use rato for some reason. Glad to see you posting again, Dickhead.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2021701]Sup Playas,
Just thought I'd be a team player and post this interesting read about estratos. It's sad that people in Latin america are judged harshly based on where they live. Anyway, my question to you gents is does anyone have Estrato rating information on Itagui, Salvanetta, and Envigado? Thanks.
[URL]http://medellinliving.com/best-medellin-neighborhoods/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.medellin.gov.co/irj/go/km/docs/wpccontent/Sites/Subportal%20del%20Ciudadano/Planeaci%C3%B3n%20Municipal/Secciones/Indicadores%20y%20Estad%C3%ADsticas/Documentos/Estratificaci%C3%B3n/ESTRATO_PREDOMINANTE%20POR%20BARRIO_2010.pdf[/URL][/QUOTE]Just a quick sampling of apartment rentals show all 3 to be estrato 3, 4 and 5. Check any real estate website if you want to figure out specifics. I use [URL]http://fincaraiz.com.co[/URL] each listing usually shows a map and the estrato.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2021959]I hear you Wolf. I too am on a shoestring budget whenever I go to CR, Panama or Colombia. I have to save where I can. I admire someone who does what they have to do to enjoy their stay.[/QUOTE]Heck, I almost booked the Normandy Hotel next to Barre Exexutiva to save a few more bucks, it's $23 a night compared to $26 at Botero, but Botero has mini-fridges in the room, and I can save some money by keeping some store bought food and drinks in the room.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2022061]I rather doubt any native speaker of Spanish said any such thing.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with using "rato", but I would guess she said "por" and not "para".
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022063]I believe she used "tiempo" and not "rato." I use rato for some reason. Glad to see you posting again, Dickhead.[/QUOTE]The 'rato' part I have no problem believing, but it's [I]por[/I] un rato. I'm just giving you shit because of what you posted about how to pronounce Parque Lleras.
Any time you are exchanging one thing for another, it's 'por.' 'Para' indicates a purpose or a recipient, or a destination. 'Por' is also a route or method of transportation (por la ruta, por tren), and indicates an action on someone else's behalf ([I]No llores por mi, Argentina[/I] = 'Don't Cry for Me, Argentina'.
Here's a few examples to compare and contrast the two:
'Vamonos por el parque para la avenida' = let's walk through the park to get to the main drag.
'Estoy trabajando por mi primo por un par de semanas para que el pueda descansar' = I am working my cousin's shifts for the next two weeks so he can take a break.
'Tengo una reserva (or in some places una reservación) para hoy por tres noches' = I have a reservation starting today for three nights.
'Compré un coche para trabajar por dos mil euro' = I bought a car for work for 2. 000 euro.
But, as they say where I am right now, 'Me suda la polla.' Or an argentino might say, 'Me chupa un huevo.' I don't think the indefinite article should be used there, though, but they do. Usually the indefinite article is only used if the noun is modified by an adjective: 'Necesito cerveza' vs. 'Necesito [b]una[/b] cerveza bien fría.'
Hope that helps!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2021678]I don't ride motorcycles but I suspect you might regret taking the bike if you were to encounter one of those unexpected Florida rainstorms.[/QUOTE]I've raced Daytona Speedway in the rain on a bike. Now that was scary. I'll throw my rain gear in the saddle bags.
This is me here on the red bike waiting for the start at Daytona.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2021449]No there aren't. There are a FEW hookers. Sure. Not a TON. A TON is what you saw around Botero plaza.[/QUOTE]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2021363]I've been in Colombia since early November, mostly in Medellin. I've had a great time. I was in Fase II tonight and this was my first experience with any "attitude" on the part of women, no matter their place in the society. They were distant, sullen, minimally approachable, and either conceited or intensely insecure. Little or no interest in navigating interaction with a foreigner, even though my Spanish is not that horrible. Very unusual behavior it seemed. Maybe they don't want to be working Semana Santa. If so they should stay home. I don't know what it costs to take a girl up at Fase II, but there was no way I was paying it without a little effort on their part. Its too bad because I had a pocket full of money. There were only a few girls attractive enough to be asking for more than 40 or 50 mil anyway.
Luna Lunera was so dark, you wouldn't know if you were talking to a man, a woman, or an ape.[/QUOTE]Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2022079]Heck, I almost booked the Normandy Hotel next to Barre Exexutiva to save a few more bucks, it's $23 a night compared to $26 at Botero, but Botero has mini-fridges in the room, and I can save some money by keeping some store bought food and drinks in the room.[/QUOTE]There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.
I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2022121]
Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Kudos!! Outstanding explanation: precise and thorough.
Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.
Experience with girl is very strange, stays away from me in room until I sweet talk her and we discuss her partying and makeup tips, but guys without spanish will definitely hit a wall and that is.
A problem. Her boyfriend keeps calling every few hours and she answers it quietly, Hello my Love, I'm still with a client, I'm staying at this place, stand outside if you want, and he texts her a lot as well. I ask her how many times per day she wants to have sex, she says ten times if she can, she is honest and when she is warmed up she does want me to keep going for as long as possible. The girl keeps saying 750,000 is not for a full day even though I confirmed this many times and insists that we go back so she can get her money and I can pay more money. We go there Linda says it's an extra 400,000 until midnight, this seems like a complete ripoff, so I say the girl can hang out with me and we can go to the mall but I'm not paying anything else. Linda says ok but no sex, the girl says I need to give Linda 100 out of respect.
There are girls across the city who want to date and mate with foreigners for free and will happily accept a much lower amount, I'm sorry but at 600,000 per day Linda's Chica's is a ripoff.
Bottom Line: Linda's Chica's is ok for semi-pro ST, but for LT a better option needs to be found for this forum, the same girls are available at every place in town.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2022325]Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.[/QUOTE]You should have asked how much for the boyfriend haha, then seen his reaction.
In Cartagena I paid 300 k per day to a girl to wife up and she wanted 100 k more for the take out fine at the strip club. Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2022199]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the ones in front of the liquor store? I spent a week in Medellin back in November and those ones were the only ones I saw. I only learned recently about Club Gusto which I will check out. Around what time do the prepagos come out?
I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.
Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2022297]There's virtually no lower bound to how cheap a hotel can be in Medellin. I did my things with some girls taken from the street in the worst area of the Centro, paying the room 5 kCOP "por un rato" (I hope nobody will try to explain how to pronounce it, as it was done for Parque Lleras). In spite of that, I stay at Sheraton at Poblado. One thing is a quick deed, another is where I relax and live.
I would not recommend to dig the bottom of the barrel in choosing the hotel where to stay. Safety, hygiene, above all COMFORT are too important to enjoy a vacation.[/QUOTE]Yeah I found another hotel about a block or 2 from the Veracruz / botero block that was $8 a night but looked a little rough. LOL.
Hotel Botero Medellin was fine for me, TV / fridge / walk in shower /2 beds / A/C at $26 a night and about several hundred women within a 10 block radius available if you count all the street / casa / strip club girls.
My room.
No one will confuse Botero Plaza with a Disney theme park, but there is enough uniformed and plain clothes law enforcement there that you are unlikely to have problems if you are minding your own business. Illegal or alternative lifestyle providers are dodgy wherever you decide to get involved with them.
The Fase 2 thing is something I don't understand very well. I get it that there are women of above average attractiveness who are available for the cost of a couple of lap dances at an upscale "gentlemen's club" in Europe or North America. My suspicion is the core clientele are Colombians of strata 5 or 6 with something to prove and foreigners who feel more comfortable in the setting as compared to the casas & street scene. I think it's a bit of the same concept of Loutron, another place I don't understand at its core. It's about me, not about the places or their customers.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2022199]OK true if you want to nit pick, but even on Sunday night we had absolutely no trouble locating attractive ones and negotiating them down quite a bit.
The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises).
Yup. Exactly the experience I had there. The prices were American strip club costs, I think it was going to be 160-200 to take one next door. They were very unfriendly. Immediately asked for us to buy them $10 drinks, when we denied they turned into total bitches. This place for me was the only blip on an amazing trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2022473]I'm glad I have my friends with benefits. Because it's close to dead out here on the streets. The casa by the bus stop for the airport in El Centro was open for business yesterday but the lineup was weak. I made friends with the guys that run it. Super cool. The lineup there is never that good anyway. Semana Santa bring Medellin to a crawl.
Times like is when you need that network of semi-pro friends.[/QUOTE]Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.
[QUOTE]The whole Botero area was slimy to me. It was nice to walk around in the day but I can't imagine a scenario where taking one of the street walkers in that area would be a good idea. There were some very rough ones and many traps (both young girls and probable hidden penises)..[/QUOTE]My scenario:
I walked around the block, sometimes had to come back in a bit, found a hot cute 18-20 yo, followed her 1/2 block up to the short term "hotel", gave her 30,000 p (plus a tip), she got naked, we had fun. How does that not work? One of the ones I was with was a solid 8, and fun, kicked myself later for not getting her number. Which she offered but I forgot afterwards. The other ones were 6/7's. Yes they do have some older / fatter ones, just walked by them. Hard to see how it was not worth $10. I had 2 SA dates, 2 strip club dates and a Casa girl for comparison.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022418] Is Linda's Chicas a brothel? I can't find it on the map. I had no idea brothels allowed for takeout.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is:
*Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50 a-54, Big White Metal Gate. 6 Chicas on the premises, at certain times, but has up to 100 chicas for you to choose from. Prices: Chica 100 k 1 hour, 80 k room fee, 170 k 2 hours, 100 k exit fee, 200 k chica, 275 k TLN. Hours: Nanci, the owner has a 24/7 operation, in which you can come by anytime and pick one of her 6 chicas or she will call anyone of 100 chicas that are available.
Springtime version of 3 kings day.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2022513]Semana Santa in Colombia is like Eid al Fitr (end of Ramadan) in Indonesia. Everyone stays with family and goes back to hometown.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2022436]Are you talking about the ones in front of the liquor store? I spent a week in Medellin back in November and those ones were the only ones I saw. I only learned recently about Club Gusto which I will check out. Around what time do the prepagos come out?[/QUOTE]We met two who were sitting at a table at a table at the beer store (I think that was the name, bar right off Parque Lleras near Havana). Just two girls sitting at their table with a drink each, me and my friend made eye contact, they invited us over, chatted for a bit (I would say my Spanish is a 4/10 but I can carry a rudimentary conversation) eventually they told us they wanted cash to come back. Ran into a few inside of the Parque later. A couple in front of tropical cocktails. I'd say between 1 and 3 they were out there.
We talk to girls consistently, whether for sale or not. But many of whom we tried to talk to just ended up being hookers. Look closer.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2022498]Yeah I found another hotel about a block or 2 from the Veracruz / botero block that was $8 a night but looked a little rough. LOL.
Hotel Botero Medellin was fine for me, TV / fridge / walk in shower /2 beds / A/C at $26 a night and about several hundred women within a 10 block radius available if you count all the street / casa / strip club girls.
My room.[/QUOTE]It looks good. Medellin is unbeatable, when we talk about hotel fares, but especially the ratio quality / fare.
I got rates on the order of 80 USD / night at Sheraton. And the service and place are outstanding. Where else in the world on could stay at Sheraton for $80/ night?? (In KL, I can get 90.).
P.S.: Should I repeat?? NO, upper class hotels in Medellin are NEVER girl friendly. (I had to respond a PM on this).
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2022528]How does that not work? One of the ones I was with was a solid 8, and fun, kicked myself later for not getting her number. Which she offered but I forgot afterwards. The other ones were 6/7's. Yes they do have some older / fatter ones, just walked by them. Hard to see how it was not worth $10. I had 2 SA dates, 2 strip club dates and a Casa girl for comparison.[/QUOTE]It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.
Yes, exactly, you and I are on the same mongering page. I've gotten the same feedback from some of my mates. When I've pressed them about the girls they reluctantly admit the sex was good and the girl attractive, but some of them are bothered by everything that is not the girl.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2022848]It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2022848]It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.[/QUOTE]Still. You could just walk 3 blocks to Hotel Eros and have a hot tub and a steam room etc. I thinking about grabbing two girls next time, hard to beat 2- 20 yo spinners for $20!
Take them to Eros, give them a little more cash and have a very fun hour!
Of course if you just did the circuit once you may not see anything worthwhile, I did multiple visits a day to find the ones I wanted.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2022634]We met two who were sitting at a table at a table at the beer store (I think that was the name, bar right off Parque Lleras near Havana). Just two girls sitting at their table with a drink each, me and my friend made eye contact, they invited us over, chatted for a bit (I would say my Spanish is a 4/10 but I can carry a rudimentary conversation) eventually they told us they wanted cash to come back. Ran into a few inside of the Parque later.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I've actually seen people leave The Beer Store with what appeared to be hookers. Which is bizarre because I got drunk there quite a few times and was never propositioned. One of the waiters, after a few visits, would keep showing me photos of his primas. Which is hilarious given none of them looked a bit like him.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2022848]It does not work because for some guys ambiance is everything. In Nice, France I fucked one chick behind some bushes and another in a parking deck; so for me it is not shit. But I have sent friends to some of my favorite el cheapo spots and they have cursed me out afterwards because they need to fuck on a down comforter surrounded by potpourri wallpaper.[/QUOTE]And actually the upstairs short term hotel they take you to isn't bad at all, clean bed, fan, shower, porno TV. About 10 x better then what Yakusa has. LOL. Now those rooms are literally hell holes.
I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an European foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark.
Unless foreigners understand that culturally and legally is just not right to be part of the chain of commerce in Parque Lleras, paisas from all walks of life and specially the ones that have lived in El Poblado for generations will do slowly but surely whatever it takes to remove that from that park.
4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.
[QUOTE=ColBoxer;2022979]
Unles foreigners understand that culturally and legally is just not right to be part of the chain of commerce in Parque Lleras, paisas from all walks of life and specially the ones that have lived in El Poblado for generations will do slowly but surely whatever it takes to remove that from that park. If you understand this cultural fact my invitation is to respect the feeling paisas have about Parque Lleras and restrain from use sexual services in that particular place. Is not legal not socially accepted, come on. You are our guests on this country.[/QUOTE]I saw very little prostitution in and around Parque Lleras when I was there in November. A few women around the liquor stores. A couple of waiters asked if I'd like to meet a girl. That's about it. Based on the reports here I don't think that has changed much.
I've spoken to many Colombians, from Medellin, and from the coast who would say (and I paraphrase): 'I know the foreigner comes here for drugs and women but we have more to offer. ' I understand your sentiment.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2023234]
I've spoken to many Colombians, from Medellin, and from the coast who would say (and I paraphrase): 'I know the foreigner comes here for drugs and women but we have more to offer. ' I understand your sentiment.[/QUOTE]I agree with Calboxer. Traveling to Colombia to get hookers out of Lleres is lazy, uninformed, stupid, dangerous, and likely offensive if done openly or in a manner that's cavalier. There are so many places in their city to find sex, why do it in front of them. The girls that are there are basically barrio girls. Would we want to see poor people exchanging sex for money in our cities? I don't think so. Lleres is an upscale mix of bars and restaurants for locals to enjoy. I cannot think of any place or area like Lleres in my country where the addition of poor prostitutes, or any kind of open prostitution, would be tolerated. Maybe in the clubs it can be done discretely but in the open park area is detrimental.
Um, you are all correct but. The fact remains Lleras attracts moneyed foreigners who have little knowledge of the country, and that in turn attracts the barrio girls and other providers looking for those same foreigners. It's up to the Colombian government to decide what if anything it wants to do about it. Options of course include heavy handed enforcement of whatever combination of the participant groups, various diversion programs of the sort are now aimed at ex-FARC guerillas, or ignoring the scene to focus on existential economic problems that plague the region. I am an interested bystander / observer.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2023264]I agree with Calboxer. Traveling to Colombia to get hookers out of Lleres is lazy, uninformed, stupid, dangerous, and likely offensive if done openly or in a manner that's cavalier. There are so many places in their city to find sex, why do it in front of them. The girls that are there are basically barrio girls. Would we want to see poor people exchanging sex for money in our cities? I don't think so. Lleres is an upscale mix of bars and restaurants for locals to enjoy. I cannot think of any place or area like Lleres in my country where the addition of poor prostitutes, or any kind of open prostitution, would be tolerated. Maybe in the clubs it can be done discretely but in the open park area is detrimental.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.[/QUOTE]Ouch, I sat on that corner and used my phone a bunch. That's where I picked up all 4 of my street girlies. I would lean against that big wall and hang and watch the chicas.
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[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. [/QUOTE]I'm sorry to hear that. I guess the lesson is stick to the crowds, carry a cheap phone, and only use it inside of stores. I figure it didn't matter. Two weeks of visiting this area someone had you scoped out.
I don't suppose you want to tell us more about the girls and the area?
[QUOTE=ColBoxer;2022979]I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..[/QUOTE]I find this interesting and appreciate your contribution and insight. I don't like to see Parque Lleras overrun with aggressive working girls and I enjoy it more when the crack downs are in force.
I'm very sorry about what happened. I am relieved you were not physically harmed. In the interest of helping the rest of us avoid this kind of problem, would you please explain what you meant when you said you were "just across the street from the crowd" when it happened? I suspect you mean you were in the area of the corner nearest the back of the museum. The other corners are normally crowded, especially at 5 pm. Maybe the thought was the uber would be able to find you more easily if you were away from the crowd? The advice about Centro safety that you see on this boards that is very helpful is that it is generally safe where there are crowds and unsafe where there are no crowds. Again, in the interest of helping the rest of us avoid what happened to you, what was it you were doing before you called for an uber, and where were you doing it? For some reason I think I am missing part of the story.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.[/QUOTE]
Here's the 4 corners, which one were you at?
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.
The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.[/QUOTE]This area of centro Medellin is called Vera Cruz. It is primarily frequented by both Colombian and foreign clients alike that are looking for very young providers. It is also a pretty sketchy area. You were likely targeted for a combination of reasons. You looked obviously out of place, and the philosophy of 'there are no legitimate victims on the Vera Cruz' applied. Meaning few locals would report a crime that happened there for fear of embarrassment, and few people would feel sorry for a foreigner experiencing a crime there. My advise would be to play in safer areas.
[QUOTE=ColBoxer;2022979]I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..[/QUOTE]I'd agree with some of these observations. These prepagos are a direct result of tourism in the area. Frankly, I'm quite happy the cops have cleaned up the park recently. Yes, I'm a little embarrassed as a First Worlder that my people are trying to turn Lleras into Coachella, but having a bunch of under the limit working girls and trannies cruising the park for the last year was all too controllable by the local police. At any time, as they finally did recently, they could have swept the park of this menace. They chose instead to allow the low end street scene to take over, and instead target the gringos that interact with them.
They get away with those rip-offs from time to time. The Mamasan told me that all clients are extranjeros that only stay maybe one day to max a week, the majority, 1-3 days, especially during to big fashion expositions and other events that made Lindas Chicas to a extranjero place. Quality is very high though and knowing a good place, safe a lot of frustrating time looking for other places if you are on a work schedule.
The best sex I have have had has often been with amigas. And they have often themselves taken the initiative. Get a few good looking amigas before the trip. They love partying and sex. Demanding nothing, or a tip / propina for "pay a bill", usually 100-150 can occur, but that is more that many girls don't have any money at all.
Kickboxer wrote some time ago that he could be a "wing-man" to take you to all the non-pro places, where the many of the more often English speaking 9's and 10's are, but of course also the male elite.
Medellin is very discreet compared to Cartagena, Panama, Del Rey etc. The word says that in the best clubs in other cities in Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica, even Mexico and L. A. , paisas are hugely over represented.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2022325]Stopped by Linda's Chicas around 4:30, no girls told to come back at 7, came back two girls one is busy doing a ST neither are my type. Linda and Nancy tell to wait, so I wait and wait for three hours, linda keeps saying there is a holiday and all the girls are being lazy. Finally one girl shows, very pretty but tons of makeup and strange energy, also her boyfriend is standing nearby glaring at me when no one is looking. (WTF?) Negotiate price of 200,000 per day plus 150,000 for leaving. When we go to leave, they say the girl gets 400,000 per day, I'm shocked, as 750,000 seems crazy high. I change the plan from one week to just one day.
Experience with girl is very strange, stays away from me in room until I sweet talk her and we discuss her partying and makeup tips, but guys without spanish will definitely hit a wall and that is..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColBoxer;2022979]I am myself both Colombian and US citizen. I am a professional working for the aviation industry and at some point in life I worked in Medellin (1990's) Paisas have always been proud of El Poblado and Parque Lleras, long before gringos discovered this destination and at those times a gringo or a foreigner was rare on this city. Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos (as they call US an european foreigners regardless of their national origin) as they are an essential part of the chain of human commerce in Parque Lleras. Paisas from all estratos have among them one thing in common, they all think that the prepago's in Parque Lleras are the result of the demand by foreign clients. They know from the past that no paisa will venture into offer or ask for sexual services in such a landmark..[/QUOTE]It must be a new thing. I have never had any experience of sextrade in Parque Lleras. It's La Zona Rosa, you go there to party. If you want to buy sex or sell sex, there are other places. The remark " Paisas feel extremely offended with gringos in Parque Lleras". I have ever felt that. We have enjoyed restaurants, she suggested on my very first visit, the famous and central located "Al Rojo", and while waiting for her, a Colombian company at the table next to me invited me to chat until she finally shows up (paisas are many things, but you need to learn to wait, often and long frustrating whiles, until you have accepted this cultural pattern, and as a good effect of that is that you generally becomes more patient.) And one was of the persons in that company was a model (real model) moving to work in Madrid and was out for a late dinner with her mother and two men, whom all where surprised that I spoke Castellano and where I came from etc.
I don't like Parque Lleras that much, it's artificial. Maybe from time to time. Paisa-friends also told me that there are so much new rich people in Poblado, with incomes from dubious business, so the once original respected families started to move away, to other barrios, one is St. Theresia in Laureles, to Rio Negro etc.
My experience is that young paisas party with young men, for fun. And more mature people enjoy the restaurants and bars.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.[/QUOTE]CodyGreen,
I'm sad to hear you lost your phone but relieved that you were unharmed. I've lived in Colombia for two years and visited many cities over the years and though its relatively safe, when the violence comes; it comes fast and deadly. Just my experience. The older white guys here who like to monger around Calle 52 & Carrera 53 or the other spots are absolutely out of their minds. I've found another new stunning beauty who will stay with me virtually all day for 150 mil. I can trust her around all my electronics at my apartment. What do you gain by bottom feeding? Just to say you fucked a desperate person for 60 mil in a moldy hotel? And you are in fact putting your life at risk. I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.
Medellin update part II.
I found Tinder is for girls who want crazy stupid money or try to get naive men to send them money and unfortunately there are mongers who throw money around and enable them. Not in my budget. I use pretty much: [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] & co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]. I do spend time searching and weeding out and I've found two regulars who are stunning & sweet and I give them 150 mil for two hours and they will stay longer willingly. But like any monger in Medellin, my "little buddy" runs the show. So I went back to looking for fresh girls and I found what I though was a nice & sweet one. She made me wait for three hours with the usual "estoy en camino" bullshit and then when she said she arrived she wasn't anywhere near my house. She then told me she's in the nearby park, but would answer my whatsapp chat like three minutes late. I live directly off a main street so Helen Keller could find my place. Well, I walked to the park since it is close to me, no chica. I kept messaging her, then I saw a police car arrive at the park. I told her I'm going back to my house and she told me to go back to the park to meet her, she sent me a google map of the park and told me she is there. Well, it was 1:00 am and even though it was Parqe Lleras my Spider-sense told me to go home. I immediately blocked her number from whatsapp. Her ad was legit from photosprepago so perhaps she was coked out or really drunk. Whatever. Total shit experience. However 6 hours earlier I had the nicest time with another chica from the same website. This reminds me of an expression that salesmen live by:
SWSWSWN: Some will, some won't, so what, next!
Got to keep digging and mining through the resources. Even though this is Colombia, a good & sweet girl will not just walk into you in the street, but they are definitely out there.
[QUOTE=Nektar;2023750]CodyGreen,
I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.
[/QUOTE]The girls weren't the problem according to the poster. It was three glue sniffing punks with knives that wanted his phone and they did it very subtly not to be noticed. We know that much.
[QUOTE=Nektar;2023750]
I found Tinder is for girls who want crazy stupid money or try to get naive men to send them money and unfortunately there are mongers who throw money around and enable them. Not in my budget. I use pretty much: [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL] & co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]. I do spend time searching and weeding out and I've found two regulars who are stunning & sweet and I give them 150 mil for two hours and they will stay longer willingly. But like any monger in Medellin, my "little buddy" runs the show. So I went back to looking for fresh girls and I found what I though was a nice & sweet one. She made me wait for three hours with the usual "estoy en camino" bullshit and then when she said she arrived she wasn't anywhere near my house. She then told me she's in the nearby park, but would answer my whatsapp chat like three minutes late. I live directly off a main street so Helen Keller could find my place. Well, I walked to the park since it is close to me, no chica. I kept messaging her, then I saw a police car arrive at the park. I told her I'm going back to my house and she told me to go back to the park to meet her, she sent me a google map of the park and told me she is there. Well, it was 1:00 am and even though it was Parqe Lleras my Spider-sense told me to go home. I immediately blocked her number from whatsapp. Her ad was legit from photosprepago so perhaps she was coked out or really drunk. Whatever. Total shit experience.
[/QUOTE]I tried those websites in my last trip and it was a disaster with them. Never again.
I ordered this:
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Studio-X8-HD-Smartphone/dp/B01EYT1URO[/URL]
$50 a pop. I'm hitting up Veracruz and Raudaln next week when I'm in Colombia. I have no problem handing this over to street punks if they pull shit but still I will only go there between 10 am and 3 pm. I'll post my experience here when I get back.
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.
[QUOTE=Nektar;2023750]CodyGreen,
The older white guys here who like to monger around Calle 52 & Carrera 53 or the other spots are absolutely out of their minds. I've found another new stunning beauty who will stay with me virtually all day for 150 mil. I can trust her around all my electronics at my apartment. What do you gain by bottom feeding? Just to say you fucked a desperate person for 60 mil in a moldy hotel? And you are in fact putting your life at risk. I've been seeing my share of girls here in Medellin and I always ask them about the street action in El Centro. They look at me like I'm stupid & crazy at the same time to consider going there. The hood and its crack and working girls are for the locals gangstas. If the average monger from this website goes to either place he doesn't belong there and will be treated as such by the locals and he will probably have a really bad experience. So why do that here in Medellin? I have no idea why.[/QUOTE]1st, the girls start at 30,000 p, not 60,2nd, some people are on a budget, 3rd, How are these girls any more desperate then other sex workers? They could always try and get a regular job if they wanted & I'd rather give my $ to somebody who really needs it, 4th, "moldy hotel" Have you actually been down there? The place the girls took me was nice and clean and nowhere near as nasty as the low end Casa's like Yakuza. The rooms had clean beds, fans, TV w / porno and showers. If we wanted to spend a arm and a leg on providers we could do that Stateside.
"and he will probably have a really bad experience".
Obvious gringos with lots of cash and no fluent Spanish or street smarts should probably stick to the Mansion, but otherwise I had a fun time down there, all 4 girls were fun.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]4-15-17 around 5 p. Standing at the corner of Calle 52 and Carrera 53, I pulled my phone out for 30 seconds to call an Uber then put it immediately away. I was just across the street from the crowd when three guys pulled knives and said something like 'We get the phone or you get the knife. " Handed him the phone and they walked off slowly, didn't even run, up Calle 52 into the crowd. I'm guessing right now they're just stupid guys who think it's a game, but that's a pretty slippery slope.[/QUOTE]Slippery slope? Are you high? What does that even mean in the context of getting robbed? And THEY are not the stupid ones in this story.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]The girls seemed really unhappy about it, I've never seen so many kind looks in Medellin. It's a $250 loss for the phone, but it's more of a huge inconvenience for the loss of the data and uber ect. I would have bought all three of them phones if they really needed them bad enough to kill for. I probably dropped $1 k over the last two weeks on this road, but I guess I won't be going here again. Not because I'm scared, next time I'll get uber straight from the middle. I will be avoiding this area because it's unprofessional for these businesses to tolerate this type of behavior. In Tijuana, Bangkok, Pattaya, Shenzhen, and everywhere else I was told by many bar owners that pick pockets are around but that anyone who mugged a tourist would be punished. Business owners understand that a one time rip-off of $250 is not worth the loss of tens of thousands in future revenue.[/QUOTE]Didn't read the warnings or just thought you were too badass to follow them? At least you were smart enough to give it up without resistance. That will keep you alive 99% of the time.
No flashing cash, cell phones, jewelry, etc. You got off easy. The Mansion was made for guys like you.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, and give them a beating before they do something everyone will regret and kills a tourist in broad daylight. Think about the police crack down that would be caused by that.[/QUOTE]This one actually made me laugh out loud. I'm sure they are conducting interviews as I write this.
Why would any business owner care about a dumb gringo getting robbed?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2023888]If we wanted to spend a arm and a leg on providers we could do that Stateside.[/QUOTE]150,000 is an arm and a leg?
I think there's a middle ground between $11 crack-head centro street workers and stateside hookers.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2023943]150,000 is an arm and a leg?
I think there's a middle ground between $11 crack-head centro street workers and stateside hookers.[/QUOTE]That's ones I was with had no apparent substance abuse issues, and I've been around enough US ones to know, I did stay away from the glue huffers but they are pretty obvious.
Different strokes for different folks but 150,000 p will get you 5 Centro girls and if you look around you can find cute clean chicks.
The $1,000 figure and several other things don't add up for me.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2023846]The girls weren't the problem according to the poster. It was three glue sniffing punks with knives that wanted his phone and they did it very subtly not to be noticed. We know that much.
I tried those websites in my last trip and it was a disaster with them. Never again.
I ordered this:
[URL]https://www.amazon.com/BLU-Studio-X8-HD-Smartphone/dp/B01EYT1URO[/URL]
$50 a pop. I'm hitting up Veracruz and Raudaln next week when I'm in Colombia. I have no problem handing this over to street punks if they pull shit but still I will only go there between 10 am and 3 pm. I'll post my experience here when I get back.
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2023846]
I don't mean to accuse the gentleman of anything but 1 k dollars over 2 weeks there seems a lot (in the veracruz area). The most you would be paying is 50 k a pop. At two pops a day over 14 days that is 700 k pesos. That's only about 200 USD. How could you be spending 1,000 USD in 2 weeks in veracruz? Something doesn't add up. I sure hope he wasn't throwing money around there because that is going to attract attention.[/QUOTE]50 X 2 X 14 = 1400. Current exchange rate makes that about $490. That's still quite a ways from $1000, but he may have been spending on things other than chicas.
[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/casos-de-muertes-de-extranjeros-en-medellin-BF6340928[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kick123;2023982][URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/casos-de-muertes-de-extranjeros-en-medellin-BF6340928[/URL][/QUOTE]"From 2007 to 2017 42 foreigners have been killed in the Aburrá Valley, according to official records. Of the dead, twelve were European, ten American, eight from South America, seven Central Americans, four Asians and one from Oceania (see chart).
According to Carrasquilla, "the main causes of deaths of foreigners, based on preliminary information, are by theft of their belongings and by links, apparently, with the sale of narcotics."
So 10 Americans in 10 years, not to bad for a city of over 3 million. So stay away from narcotic dealings and look poor and give it up if mugged.
[QUOTE=CodyGreen;2023135]
If any of you know the bosses of this area, I'd advise them to interview the people standing around yesterday a 4-15-17 around 5 p, figure out who the boys are, ..........................................[/QUOTE]What you (and some others who I read writing here some times) seem to not have understood is that you are in Medellin Centro, not in Bangkok. Such things can always happen, although not so common as years ago now. That's the environment. Please don't feel offended, but you are so naif in your advice above. I can only imagine their laughs, if anybody would try that.
Centro is dangerous indeed, in the sense that there is some small probability that the wrong person sees you in the wrong time. You made a mistake bringing with you a smartphone (I always use an old Nokia there), but you behaved correctly when robbered. And you did not try it at night time.
Shit happens. Don't be upset.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2024350]What you (and some others who I read writing here some times) seem to not have understood is that you are in Medellin Centro, not in Bangkok. Such things can always happen, although not so common as years ago now. That's the environment. Please don't feel offended, but you are so naif in your advice above. I can only imagine their laughs, if anybody would try that.
Centro is dangerous indeed, in the sense that there is some small probability that the wrong person sees you in the wrong time. You made a mistake bringing with you a smartphone (I always use an old Nokia there), but you behaved correctly when robbered. And you did not try it at night time.
Shit happens. Don't be upset.[/QUOTE]WARNING. Not only in Centro. Five hours ago I finished my session at ENERGY by the stadium, after exiting and turning right down the front stairs heading to the metro I clearly see, 20 yards in front of me, 3 young early 20's guys walking opposite me, and the one in the middle lifts up his t-shirt and pulls a 9 mm out of his front waist I instinctively ran across the street as in the corner of my eye I see him position back the 9 mm into his waist.
Was he making a move on me, don't know but with only a few others on the sidewalk was not about to hang around.
I grabbed a taxi and got the hell out of there. Mind you this was 2:30 PM in broad day light.
Always be observant and know your surroundings. Don't get complacent. Be safe.
The Tall Man.
P.S. What an incredible experience I session-ed with Ferranda at Energy. Damn, mi dios!
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2024387]WARNING. Not only in Centro. Five hours ago I finished my session at ENERGY by the stadium, after exiting and turning right down the front stairs heading to the metro I clearly see, 20 yards in front of me, 3 young early 20's guys walking opposite me, and the one in the middle lifts up his t-shirt and pulls a 9 mm out of his front waist I instinctively ran across the street as in the corner of my eye I see him position back the 9 mm into his waist.
Was he making a move on me, don't know but with only a few others on the sidewalk was not about to hang around.
I grabbed a taxi and got the hell out of there. Mind you this was 2:30 PM in broad day light.
Always be observant and know your surroundings. Don't get complacent. Be safe.
The Tall Man.
P.S. What an incredible experience I session-ed with Ferranda at Energy. Damn, mi dios![/QUOTE]Wow!! And this is MY SPOT and I always go there first. How is the LU?
I feel it lately there has been more heighten presence in the street. Always have to be on your guard. I ususally hate that part at the end of energy in between the ATM. I try to get out of there as fast as possible. Especially when there is that asshole homeless person who is trying to have his own parking garage service in the middle of the lot.
Groups of 3 are always the worst. Stay safe!
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2024744]Wow!! And this is MY SPOT and I always go there first. How is the LU?
I feel it lately there has been more heighten presence in the street. Always have to be on your guard. I ususally hate that part at the end of energy in between the ATM. I try to get out of there as fast as possible. Especially when there is that asshole homeless person who is trying to have his own parking garage service in the middle of the lot.
Groups of 3 are always the worst. Stay safe![/QUOTE]All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
Instead of running across the street, why not just step back into Energy and call a Uber or taxi? They were probably younger and faster, and I doubt if he could outrun a bullet? Besides, blindly running across a street in Medellin is a good way to end up as a good ornament.
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?
If they were walking towards him, why pull out a gun 20 yards away? There's 3 of them. Step up grab him, show him the gun and take what he has.
The story just doesn't seem to make sense.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2024748]All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
Instead of running across the street, why not just step back into Energy and call a Uber or taxi? They were probably younger and faster, and I doubt if he could outrun a bullet? Besides, blindly running across a street in Medellin is a good way to end up as a good ornament.
I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?
If they were walking towards him, why pull out a gun 20 yards away? There's 3 of them. Step up grab him, show him the gun and take what he has.
The story just doesn't seem to make sense.[/QUOTE]I assume he is using "9 mm" as a generic term for a semi-automatic black handgun.
Also surprised they would pull it early, making me think maybe he wasn't the intended target, but someone closer was?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2024748]All I can say is he's got some damn good eyes if he can determine that a pistol 60 yards away is a 9 mm. The picture shows an object the size of a gun 16 yards away. What is it?
[/QUOTE]I believe he said 20 yards.
[QUOTE]I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?[/QUOTE]I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
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The story just doesn't seem to make sense.[/QUOTE]I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2024818]I believe he said 20 yards.
I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Typo on my part. I was thinking 60 feet and typed yards.
I'm still baffled how you can determine the caliber of a handgun 20 yards /60 feet away.
I'm also baffled why he would show the gun at all at that distance. The other businesses are open, there are other people around, there are cars on the street, it's broad daylight. Granted, people often do things that make no sense. I guess this is one of those things.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2024818]I believe he said 20 yards.
I took it to mean they were on same side of street walking opposite directions- that is, the trio was walking towards him.
I believe the guy had a gun and was repositioning it or showing it to be tough guy. Obviously they were not trying to rob. But if I saw that- and I do believe he saw a gun- I would bolt as well. I imagine he looked before he crossed the road.
There's no reason to question the story, just take it as a warning. There are plenty of people with guns in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Yes 20 yards walking straight towards me (I was headed to metro and they were headed to the Diamante mall), I just past the ATM, for those that know this area you get it, yes it was a semi-automatic and no I assumed the caliber.
When I jolted across the street it was at a moment between a grouping of cars.
There are guns everywhere, hell my Colombian friend who picked me up at the airport always has his auto-matic in his blacked out bullet proof car.
I cannot make this up if I had to but you know that taxi that I quickly flagged down and got out of the stadium area, WELL that same taxi no more that 8 to 10 ten minutes latter we were rear ended by a Toyota Land Cruiser, both drivers (including my taxi driver) got out and an argument ensued in the middle of a traffic congested calle as to the cost of repairs, well smart me I stayed put in the taxi but ready to bolt as the other driver had a gordo body guard with him in his blacked-out bullet proof Land Cruiser displaying his pistol to my taxi driver to help negotiate the car damage costs, which my taxi driver reluctantly accepted and quickly drove off mad as hell.
Again, the only point is to stay observant, never get complacent, anywhere in this city.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2024748]I'm also confused about walking "opposite" of him. That should mean they were across the street walking north while he walked south, or they were on the same side of the street, behind him and walking away. Were they instead walking "towards" him?[/QUOTE]One thing I have noticed on this INTERNATIONAL board, is a lot of the members are not native English speakers so some of the posts I read are just a bit grammatically incorrect or maybe worded a bit different than the way I speak or write. I don't know where TTM is from but I would be willing to bet that it is not from a country whose primary language is English. I commend and applaud these posters as I could imagine how bad my French, German, Dutch (and Spanish) or whatever other language would appear to a native speaker! Just read between the lines and take in the overall intent of the message and it should all make sense.
Just a thought!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2025053]There are guns everywhere, hell my Colombian friend who picked me up at the airport always has his auto-matic in his blacked out bullet proof car.
I cannot make this up if I had to but you know that taxi that I quickly flagged down and got out of the stadium area, WELL that same taxi no more that 8 to 10 ten minutes latter we were rear ended by a Toyota Land Cruiser, both drivers (including my taxi driver) got out and an argument ensued in the middle of a traffic congested calle as to the cost of repairs, well smart me I stayed put in the taxi but ready to bolt as the other driver had a gordo body guard with him in his blacked-out bullet proof Land Cruiser displaying his pistol to my taxi driver to help negotiate the car damage costs, which my taxi driver reluctantly accepted and quickly drove off mad as hell.[/QUOTE]Like others, I see red flags in these reports. If your friend told you his car is bullet proof, then I can understand you repeating that here, although I would doubt anyone who told me that. There is no way you can look at a vehicle from the outside and know whether or not it is bullet proof, so your statement about the Land Cruiser is bogus. I think your report is for shock effect. Other than drug related incidents and domestic disputes, how many shootings do you know of in the Medellin area?
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2025093] Other than drug related incidents and domestic disputes, how many shootings do you know of in the Medellin area?[/QUOTE]Off topic but I wonder what the average police officer in Colombia would do if they knew a person was carrying a gun. I do not know if there are laws allowing concealed weapons in Colombia but there is at least one video on youtube where police in Rio discovered a gun on someone they pulled over and assassinated him. Talk about lawlessness. He didn't even look dangerous, kind of normal. But they shot him dead. The gun battles between police and criminals in Brazil are legendary.
Sense of security in Colombia is mostly superficial. Even if a lot has changed, nothing has changed. This is a recent documentary and it helps to re-examine, re-evaluate and reconfirm the fact that you are not secure at all.
[URL]https://rtd.rt.com/films/escobars-hitman/[/URL]
I've been here 2 weeks now, living at the south end of Poblado. A few different issues have kept me from venturing out much. The worst is any injury that's taking a while to heal. However, today I decided to tough it out and check out Energy. I'll get to that in a few.
I'm far enough away from Parque Lleras that gringos are a rare sight. From here it's a brisk walk to Centro Comercial Santa Fe. If you have time to kill, that's a good place to hang out. If nothing else just for the eye candy.
A little bit closer to Lleras is CC Oviedo. There are several casas de cambio there if you need to exchange dollars. There's also a nice food court where you can get a full lunch for under 15 k.
The Metro is too convenient not to use, especially if you're going farther than a couple of stops. Just 2,300 pesos and trains come by every 4 or 5 minutes. It can be crowded. Taxis are also everywhere and cheap, but you may have to direct the driver. Taxi from the airport was 65 k.
In 2 weeks I've not paid over 20 k for any meal. About half my meals I'm cooking at home. Restaurant food is almost cheaper than I can cook it.
Now back to Energy. I lost count, but the lineup was about a dozen. Only 2 or 3 really curvy, 4 spinners, 1 tall and thin and the rest in between. I picked a tiny A cup spinner, no tats and cute face. Everything was about what I expected from past reviews. Place was clean with plenty of room.
I remember some reports saying they were collecting the fee before, but I wasn't asked to pay until after. Prices are as advertised.
Overall I'm enjoying Medellin. Not much to complain about yet.
[QUOTE=Questner;2025728]Sense of security in Colombia is mostly superficial. Even if a lot has changed, nothing has changed. This is a recent documentary and it helps to re-examine, re-evaluate and reconfirm the fact that you are not secure at all.
[URL]https://rtd.rt.com/films/escobars-hitman/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for dropping the link to this. Very interesting. Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2026493] Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies![/QUOTE]He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2026508]He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?[/QUOTE]Actually he was the victim of an armed robbery late in 2016. I believe he was walking around his nice neighborhood and was victim of the typical 2 guys on a moto robbery. I was down there at the time and read about it in the local newspapers.
I found it somewhat amusing- ironic as his quotes were to the effect of complaining about the violence and lawlessnes in the City.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2026493]Thanks for dropping the link to this. Very interesting. Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies![/QUOTE]It was only for the interview however when he was asked how much would a hit cost today, he replied that it would cost $50 K here (meaning a high estrato area under surveillance) and $1 or a cost of a bullet there (in a troubled or poor area where there is no surveillance or there is a guerilla activity). The lesson is very simple, stay at good areas, and if you don't provoke anyone then you can lessen the chances of a random assault.
Hello mates,
I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!
Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.
Looking forward to hear from you.
[QUOTE=Mike963;2026769]Hello mates,
I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!
Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.
Looking forward to hear from you.[/QUOTE]Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.
Who does the best in MDE?
[QUOTE=Sargent50;2027068]Who does the best in MDE?[/QUOTE]Just look up the locations and uber. It'll cost half the price and you can go on your own schedule.
[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2027019]Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.[/QUOTE]And they all are pretty comfortable using Google Translate on your phone to make the arrangements to transfer pesos from your pocket to their purse for services rendered.
[QUOTE=Sargent50;2027068]Who does the best in MDE?[/QUOTE]Use an Uber driver. In December, I went to the Grave, his 'Prison' & the 'safe' house where he was killed for about $20. Very easy!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Sargent50;2027068]Who does the best in MDE?[/QUOTE][I](I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)[/I]
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027317][I](I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)[/I]
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.[/QUOTE]Because the impact Escobar had on the country even the world was enormous. He is probably the most known person from Colombia in the world. Al Capone is not the most famous person from USA.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027317][I](I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)[/I]
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.[/QUOTE]But Medellin is not London, New York, or Chicago. Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2027340]Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.[/QUOTE]And sometimes new travelers do not know the city or how to spend their downtime from the hobby so they look for something to make the trip interesting. I get it. Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene. They are looking for a beach, an outdoor playground. There actually is plenty of adventure available in MDE imo with hang gliding, helicopter rides, day trips, excursions to parks. But it's landlocked and not for everyone. Myself, I am perfectly happy without all the stress and exhaustion that comes with sightseeing, adventures and tours.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2027349]Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene.[/QUOTE]Suggestions:
In Medellin, there's the Museum in centro along with the plaza, and Arvi Park. Those two are actually worth going to. I also advise checking out the night life in Laureles. Think of it as a night away from El Poblado. Outside of Medellin there's Santa Fe de Antioqua, and Jardin. Santa Fe is much easier to get to by car. It's only an hour away. You can even find tours of it offered by tourism companies. Jardin is a bit of a two hour trek. I would only go there if you decide to stay there overnight. There is both paragliding and hang gliding just outside of Medellin. It's about 30 to 45 minutes to get to each and it's pretty cheap.
The trouble is these are all day trips. I'm not aware of anything touristy to do during the night, and the night is when casas close up. That's the biggest downtime for a lot of visitors.
I find the Escobar tours tacky and would never go on them. You can pick up a good book on the subject. No need to check out the man's grave.
I'll be arriving tomorrow night in Medellin. Will post a report when I get back. Have fun and stay safe everyone!
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027317][I](I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)[/I]
I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!
If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.
If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.
I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.[/QUOTE]TEHO!! Like it or not, MDE is associated with Pablo & Pablo is associated with MDE. Neither in a good way. However, some people, myself included, associate the history of MDE to be forever intertwined with Pablo, hence, my Pablo Tour last December. I didn't make a big fuss about it, it certainly was not the only reason I went & I more than likely will not go back on future trips to the MDE. I did it because I was there, with time on my hands & I associate Pablo with MDE. Just as I visited the Panama Canal 2 consecutive days in Dec of '15, I did it because it was there & no place else. I certainly didn't go to PTY just to go to the canal, but while I was there, I went.
According to your theory, anyone who goes to his Finca, Hacienda andápoles, is wasting their time & should do something else to occupy their time.
Did you know that his 'Prison' has been converted into an old folks / nursing home for the poor elderly people of Medellin? All govt. Run at no cost to the residents! I didn't before I went. Hence the advantage of doing a few 1/2 day trips while waiting for the chicas to arrive at the Mansion! Anyway, I'm certainly glad I went, even though I probably won't ever go again. JMHO & again TEHO!!
El Mechanico.
I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2027334]He is probably the most known person from Colombia in the world. [/QUOTE]
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2027334]Al Capone is not the most famous person from USA.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? I heard about Al Capone when I was a kid a primary school, well before hearing the names of JFK, MLK or Michael Jackson (again, I admit it must be a limit of the observer).
The bottom line is: it depends on the observer's perspective.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2027385]Suggestions:
[/QUOTE]Thumbs up.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2027349]And sometimes new travelers do not know the city or how to spend their downtime from the hobby .[/QUOTE]
That's the point. Plenty of information online, however.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2027340]But Medellin is not London, New York, or Chicago. Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Sure Medellin cannot compare that those mythical cities, I know you know I was trying to pull the paradox.
I think you also agree that using TripAdvisor alone as a "rating agency" for attractions, without adding some personal discernment, is a monumental mistake. TripAdvisor is made by people, and you know "democracy" does imply necessarily selection of the best qualified leaders (fans of The Donald, please bear with me).
I give you an example. Years ago, I travelled to Cuzco, Peru. To choose a good restaurant for the night, I had a look at TripAdvisor, to discover that the No. 1 ranked restaurant in Cuzco was some Australian Pub. One of the most enthusiast comments was by some Aussie guy: "They prepare the burgers EXACTLY as in Melbourne!" Amazing, right? I chose a lower-ranked restaurant, and I was extremely happy with the Peruvian Cuisine, one of the best renowned cuisines from Latin America (say like French or Italian from Europe).
Seeing that TripAdvisor lists Pablo Escobar as one of the main attractions in town confirms the limits of TripAdvisor and of its contributors, not of Colombia and Antioquia.
Well. Just a small note regarding restaurants in Peru. You will find 2 of the top 10 restaurants in the world in Peru (in Lima tough). So as always before you visit a country, depending on your purpose, read yourself up on what's going on.
Chico.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027678]I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027678]I read all comments, and some of them strengthened my original opinion, as they demonstrate a very narrow perspective. I will add some gasoline, just for the pleasure to lighten up the dialogue. Bear with me if I will be sharp. Trust me, if you meet me in person I am a kind one.
By the way, imagine the first reason of your trip to Medellin is not meeting local girls but for work, certainly with the pleasant side effect of the spare time at night (my case). Then, you will probably have lots of local acquaintances, not only from strip clubs but also from local companies, universities, whatever above the average level of people. If you had the patience to see at least some of the video report on Popeye, you had plenty of examples of all categories of people in Medellin.
Then, try the following experiments:
1) if you invite out for dinner some pretty local lady, say a young lawyer or professional, tell her that you tried to hit casas that afternoon;.
2) at lunch with your business partners, tell them that you want to take a "Pablo Escobar Tour" and ask advice.
In both cases, you'll get staring eyes and your success chances in your date or business will fall down to zero.
That's a limit of the observer, not of Colombia. Too bad for you. I think that the most famous persons of Colombia are Gabriel Garcia Marquez and Fernando Botero (born in Medellin). I hope you know them better than Escobar. If not, again it's a limit of the observer and of his narrow perspective angle. To know more:
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Garc%C3%ADa_M%C3%A1rquez[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Botero[/URL]
Are you sure? I heard about Al Capone when I was a kid a primary school, well before hearing the names of JFK, MLK or Michael Jackson (again, I admit it must be a limit of the observer).
The bottom line is: it depends on the observer's perspective.
Thumbs up.
That's the point. Plenty of information online, however.
Sure Medellin cannot compare that those mythical cities, I know you know I was trying to pull the paradox.
I think you also agree that using TripAdvisor alone as a "rating agency" for attractions, without adding some personal discernment, is a monumental mistake. TripAdvisor is made by people, and you know "democracy" does imply necessarily selection of the best qualified leaders (fans of The Donald, please bear with me).
I give you an example. Years ago, I travelled to Cuzco, Peru. To choose a good restaurant for the night, I had a look at TripAdvisor, to discover that the No. 1 ranked restaurant in Cuzco was some Australian Pub. One of the most enthusiast comments was by some Aussie guy: "They prepare the burgers EXACTLY as in Melbourne!" Amazing, right? I chose a lower-ranked restaurant, and I was extremely happy with the Peruvian Cuisine, one of the best renowned cuisines from Latin America (say like French or Italian from Europe).
Seeing that TripAdvisor lists Pablo Escobar as one of the main attractions in town confirms the limits of TripAdvisor and of its contributors, not of Colombia and Antioquia.[/QUOTE]You're correct. Much of it has to do with perspective. When I first arrived here, my roommate, who is from Bogota, pointed put several places that were supposedly former homes of Escobar associates. She has more interest in Escobar than Medellin natives, because she is from elsewhere.
Depending on where you're from, you have a very different view of other countries, even other cities in your own country. Ask someone from Mississippi about LOS Angeles. Ask someone from the US about Canada. I have family back home who believe I'm dodging bullets and hiding from the cartels.
Things to do unrelated to Escobar, go to the Medellin Castle. For 12 k it's a good way to spend a few hours, it's not far from Parque Lleras in Poblado and the tour is interesting and informative, but you may need a translator. Go to the La America farmers market. Ride the Metro. For 2300 pesos you can ride the whole thing, just switch trains when you reach the end. Get a different view of the whole metropolitan area for under $1. Hit the food courts. You can choose from several restaurants and eat lunch for $4 to $10 including propina. Or spend a few dollars more at LOS Contenadores, a short walk from the Ayura Metro station. $10 to $15 with several excellent choices.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I can't see spending about $150 per day (airfare, hotel, food) to get as much $30 pussy as possible, and never seeing anything else.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2027400]
According to your theory, anyone who goes to his Finca, Hacienda andpoles, is wasting their time & should do something else to occupy their time.[/QUOTE]Ahemmm, you got my point. :P
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2027400]
Hence the advantage of doing a few 1/2 day trips while waiting for the chicas to arrive at the Mansion![/QUOTE]I suggest a few alternative ways to spend half a day to recover a sore dick between girls:
In Medellin:
- a walk and coffee in Sabaneta main square;.
- visit Museo de Antioquia to admire Botero's master pieces.
Outside Medellin:
- a walk and lunch in Santa Fe de Antioquia (bus and cars from Terminal Norte), heart of the Paisa Country.
- admire Guatape and its colored walls, even climb up the Penol stairs, and of course do not miss to have lunch in a place possibly out of main tourist streams.
- get a guided tour to some coffee farm (can't be missed, if you like coffee and understand that Starbucks is not the best the world can offer).
Enjoy.
[I]El riesgo es que te quieras quedar[/I]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2027815]In Medellin:
- a walk and coffee in Sabaneta main square;.
- visit Museo de Antioquia to admire Botero's master pieces.
Outside Medellin:
- a walk and lunch in Santa Fe de Antioquia (bus and cars from Terminal Norte), heart of the Paisa Country.
- admire Guatape and its colored walls, even climb up the Penol stairs, and of course do not miss to have lunch in a place possibly out of main tourist streams.
- get a guided tour to some coffee farm (can't be missed, if you like coffee and understand that Starbucks is not the best the world can offer).
Enjoy.
[I]El riesgo es que te quieras quedar[/I][/QUOTE]Thank you sir!
El Mechanico.
Ok, so there was this paisa who I had before. She was about 20, creative and spoke english. Really really pretty face, thin and we had great chemistry.
Anyway, she comes over after I get in and she is up front she is like "I still want to be with you, be friends but I don't want money" I was sort of shocked. I know we kept in touch and had a good connection. So we boned for a couple hours. It was awesome!!
Anyway, today I took a trip to Energy.
I can tell they are under new management. The mamasan is new. The line up was nice except it took more time then usual. I think her name was Malery or something. Cartoon tits and ass. Looks 22 but is actually 31. She was like half into it but had some hang ups. Like I really pressed for oral natural. She said yes but would check if any pre-cum came up and then would grab an alchol laden tissue and brush it off. It was sort of defeating. Also, no kissing and I couldn't even finish on her massive 34 D tits. All in all she was like. 6/10 but could have been 8/10 if she just played ball. But DAMM her ass is HUGE and she has those lipo abs. I have a lot more in store. Stay tuned!
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2028735]her massive 34 D tits.[/QUOTE]I know chicks with training bras bigger than that.
This place, at least where I'm at in Laureles, is dead. Most Casas will be closed on Monday or will have their bee team working.
Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2028951]Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?[/QUOTE]The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=ts[/URL]
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2028985]The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=ts[/URL][/QUOTE]Hmm. Damn, I'll only be there a week. If brothels aren't camera friendly, nor are the street hookers in Medellin aren't the prettiest in the bunch. I really don't want to take my chances with Bogota's Santa Dr district (will probably stay at Hotel Tisquesusa), but I may have to.
I read street hookers at Carrerra 15 are sexy compared to many other parts of Bogota.
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2028951]Hey everyone!
Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia.
Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?[/QUOTE]No, brothels in Medellin aren't camera friendly, although it's quite likely if you carry a camera into a brothel you'll meet some friendly people interested in photography shortly after leaving the brothel. Are brothels anywhere in the world camera friendly?
Street hookers are mostly found in the less secure parts of the city, the parts of the city where a gringo with a camera will soon be a gringo without a camera, cell phone or wallet, and in some cases without a pulse.
That doesn't mean you won't be able to find models, but you're more likely to just find trouble.
Finding models won't be easy. There are probably 50 questionable webcam studios in Medellin plus 8 or 10 real webcam studios. The difference being one will take anyone who will get naked and put out for the studio, the others treat the girls the same as hiring any employee. There are ads everywhere. Any girl you're likely to meet knows she can get in front of the camera and make money. Why would she do it for you, unless you're paying good money?
There are many great reasons to come to Colombia, but if your main reason is to get content so you'll get more views on pornhub, you're better off staying home.
Hey everyone,
I know it can be a hassle to find accommodations that are chica friendly here sometimes. But I have some rooms for rent in my penthouse apartment. It is smack in the middle of El Centro. 50 dollars per night. Which is a great rate for a place like this. This is a 16th floor penthouse with the most spectacular views of Medellin you will find anywhere. We can't keep the girls away. Very easy to get any chick to come up here. And it's close to all the party spots in El Centro. If you have never been here before, or you are a seasoned veteran, you will love it. My roommate and I are happy to show you around and help you find a girl if you need. There is never a shortage of girls in this house. LOL. You get a private bedroom and private bathroom. The common are is available for you to use as well, and has a kitchen, dining room, pool table, a bar, and a big screen TV. You can contact me for more information and pictures of the place. I look forward to meeting you all and sharing my place with you.
BTW Medellin is an excellent place to purchase denim. There is a huge area of discount stores around Mayorista. Quality and prices are incredible.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2029020]Street hookers are mostly found in the less secure parts of the city, the parts of the city where a gringo with a camera will soon be a gringo without a camera, cell phone or wallet, and in some cases without a pulse.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm half-Filipino / half-White, so I don't look like a gringo, per se. A few acquaintances of mine actually thought I was Mexican! But yeah, I was debating if I should risk staying in Sante Fe district, Bogota at a safe hotel during the day so I can film at short-term hotels and submit my video via PornHub once I return. Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2028951]Hey everyone! Since there isn't a Medellin FAQ, I figured I'd ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. Are brothels in Medellin camera friendly? If not, are the street hookers? What'll be the extra cost?[/QUOTE]I recommend you go to Plaza Botero about 22:00 hours (10 PM), because there is just enough twilight left at that time to make filming ideal. Set up your equipment, along with a sandwich board advertising what you are looking for and how much you are willing to pay. Plaza Botero is right by the Museum of Antioquia and the Rafael Uribe Uribe Palace of Culture, so you know you will get higher class, more erudite people passing by, many of whom will speak fluent English. This is in the famous Carabobo neighborhood, Calle 52 and Carrera 51. Any taxista will be happy to take you there. There are several four and five star hotels in this area, so you can take the chicas there for filming sessions as well. Hotel Manzanares would be a good choice.
"If your Spanish is good" How much Spanish do you really need to hold up a handful of bank notes and point a cell phone camera?
To the original poster, use your pornhub account to search for "Colombia" "Brazil" etc. That will be your indication of how much filming you are likely to get done. Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones. Those that don't will make their policy clear when you start why our production. Good luck.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2028985]The brothels in Medellin are not camera friendly and since I street hookers are the bottom of the barrel in looks normally I don't go there. I would say it depends on how much glue the happened to sniff that day. Jajaja.
In general the mentally in Medellin is that a chick would rather fuck a guy she doesn't like and have nobody find out about it than have her naked ass filmed while getting pounded for the whole world to see.
But it can be done if you plan on staying awhile and your Spanish is good.
I would start buy getting as many contacts on facebook as I could and just network. If you get lucky you can find a chick that will help you recruit and pay her for every chick she finds for you.
You might start with this photographer in Medellin. He knows a lot of chicks and recently started taking pics of webcam girls in my friends studio and helping to promote them online.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/maxintellstevens?fref=ts[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2029100]"If your Spanish is good" How much Spanish do you really need to hold up a handful of bank notes and point a cell phone camera?
To the original poster, use your pornhub account to search for "Colombia" "Brazil" etc. That will be your indication of how much filming you are likely to get done. Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones. Those that don't will make their policy clear when you start why our production. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't speak any Spanish.
Since it appears Medellin brothels aren't privy to recording equipment, I may have to take my chances on Medellin, Bogota, or Cartagena street hookers.
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029063]Well, I'm half-Filipino / half-White, so I don't look like a gringo, per se. A few acquaintances of mine actually thought I was Mexican! But yeah, I was debating if I should risk staying in Sante Fe district, Bogota at a safe hotel during the day so I can film at short-term hotels and submit my video via PornHub once I return. Anyway, if you have any other suggestions, please let me know.[/QUOTE]If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2029129]If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2029100]Many casas display signs prohibiting the use of cameras and cell phones.[/QUOTE]Me and my friends went into (I think the name is) Mona Lisa. We sat on the couches for the presentation of the girls. I pulled my phone out to send an email or check a message or something and the lady threw me out of there.
At New Life, sometimes the guy wouldn't say anything when I had my phone out waiting for friends to finish and other times he made me put it away.
[QUOTE=Judd;2028783]This place, at least where I'm at in Laureles, is dead. Most Casas will be closed on Monday or will have their bee team working.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2029129]If you're carrying a camera in Centro or Santa Fe you look like a gringo, a gringo who really doesn't want to keep his camera. If you look like a Mexican, unless your Spanish is perfect, you look like a gringo.
I'm not trying to be insulting. Every year several thousand tourists come here to become victims. Some get their pockets picked, some get scammed, some get robbed and a few get dead. None of them intend to be a victim, but they forget this isn't the US. So they whip out their camera or their $700 cell phone and get introduced to reality.
Both Centro and Santa Fe are safe during the day, right up to the point when you pull out that camera. Unless you venture off the busy streets, then time of day doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2029020]No, brothels in Medellin aren't camera friendly, although it's quite likely if you carry a camera into a brothel you'll meet some friendly people interested in photography shortly after leaving the brothel. Are brothels anywhere in the world camera friendly?[/QUOTE]Ahahah I love your way to explain. 100% true. Spot-on. Well said.
By the way, the guy who wants to bring a camera in brothels, to be able to post videos from Colombia on Pornhub, reminded me the beginnings of the guy who has the web site "My Asian Sex Diary". I don't know how many here do know that.
He started the same way ("hey can I take pictures of you??") then he decided to make it a business.
He lives spending one week here and one week there, rotating hotels among China, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, and few other countries. His business is to place multiple hidden cams in his room and filming him having sex with the girls he finds in malls, bars, even brothels. No condom, creampie 100% of the times, every night a different girl: make your estimation of the risk for the girls who go with him.
Sometimes he pays extra to girls to get permission to film, I guess he promises it's for personal use, other times girls are totally unaware.
Then, he posts the video on his web site. The registration fee is something like 30 USD / month. He has been earning a lot of money, since several years already. Enough to pay his lifestyle and to save a lot in some tax paradise.
His life is just fucking, eating, sleeping, videoediting, repeat. Every day, even Christmas. This for at least the last 4-5 years.
How did I know about him? This is the interesting part.
One year ago, more or less, he ventured to Batam, Indonesia, which is now like my private or at least favorite playground.
He went with some ugly bar girls, and even she met one of MY BEST FRIENDS there. He lured her to his room, fucked her in various ways, recorded everything with his cam hidden in glasses and in various places of the room (the same hotel where I usually stay) and posted her video on his web site.
In few days, someone downloaded the video from the pay site and posted it public, with all others from Batam. In few days, everyone in Batam was pointing fingers to those girls, included my friend. Even police went to interrogate her, if the shame for her was not enough.
Now, what I wanted to say is that this guy was able to do that and even go back to Batam, without physical consequences for him.
But Colombia is not Indonesia. If that damn guy (MyAsianSexDiary) will try to go to Medellin or Bogota, introduce hidden cameras in a bar of Santa Fe or a casa of Medellin, post the video of the girls, etc. Etc. , even make money on the skin of those poor girls, he might get a bullet in front, not a pat-pat on the shoulder. No shit.
Personally, I wish I will be able to meet him one day, if he comes back to Batam. Be sure I will find enough people to teach him the lesson and how to behave in a civil world.
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029139]I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.[/QUOTE]Prey she's a honest girl. If not, someone will take care of you soon after you finish your job.
Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2029391]Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.[/QUOTE]I personally go with a money belt hidden under my pants: (with as you say, some cash in the front pockets for hold-ups).
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[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029139]I've actually looked into a secret anti-theft wallet that goes inside your shirt. I've figured crime was relatively common in Santa Fe; hence why I'm going to bring only the cash I need, my ID, condoms and my hidden camera.
I plan to tell the hooker after we find a short-term hotel.[/QUOTE]You've clearly thought of everything. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
I realize this thought has never crossed your mind, but is there any chance that one of the people, telling you it's not a good plan, know what they are talking about? Between them they have accounted for about 15,000 posts on ISG, they've mongered all over the world and have seen just about everything. They've advised and guided greenhorns in dozens of countries. Yet you, with zero experience, so wet behind the ears you don't understand brothels do not allow cameras, think you're smarter.
You don't speak any Spanish, plan to go to areas that are always risky and try to negotiate with people who speak no English. Furthermore you want to do it in an area where you will encounter serious drug users, trannys and under legal age hookers.
If you won't take the free advice, your lesson is going to be very expensive.
For me that's a little extreme. I make a point of avoiding situations that would put me at risk of robbery, but I use my wallet, cash, etc. The same anywhere I go. I never walk around with a passport because it's a pain in the ass to replace it in case of loss or theft. I don't ever want to be in a place where I have to hide my cash in my socks. Life is too short for that. I'm not going to walk around Centro with my annual salary in cash but I don't think twice about carrying amounts I wouldn't miss. I never flash money and I avoid using my phone where other people are not using their phones. So far, so good for many years.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2029391]Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.[/QUOTE]
I think we are being trolled, at least I hope so.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2029426]You've clearly thought of everything. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
I realize this thought has never crossed your mind, but is there any chance that one of the people, telling you it's not a good plan, know what they are talking about? Between them they have accounted for about 15,000 posts on ISG, they've mongered all over the world and have seen just about everything. They've advised and guided greenhorns in dozens of countries. Yet you, with zero experience, so wet behind the ears you don't understand brothels do not allow cameras, think you're smarter.
You don't speak any Spanish, plan to go to areas that are always risky and try to negotiate with people who speak no English. Furthermore you want to do it in an area where you will encounter serious drug users, trannys and under legal age hookers.
If you won't take the free advice, your lesson is going to be very expensive.[/QUOTE]
Please clear some space in your mailbox. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2029391]Nobody should ever be carrying in their pocket a wallet w ID. CC, cash. Maybe in Poblado by day but otherwise it is not smart. I have a small bi fold wallet(credit card / ID size) that holds a CC, ID and has room for folded bills and wear Goldtoe Canterbury over-the-calf dress socks. My wallet stays in my sock and is completely unnoticeable. I keep enough cash in my pocket to buy simple things or "reward" a thief so he looks no further. If I need more money I go into a bathroom and remove what I need. Even sitting in a restaurant I can remove from my sock and nobody notices because I'm covered by the table. I am never worried about the wallet falling out because that sock literally hugs the wallet and keeps it positioned. If I had to run from danger I could sprint a mile and the wallet would stay put. Never feels too snug or uncomfortable. Just enough to know the wallet is still there.
It might seem like a small detail to some but for this hobby the small wallet and those socks are a key component when I'm out in the streets.[/QUOTE]I think the socks are a safe place to prevent pickpockets, but not so good in case of robbery. As long as I can remember, I have heard of putting money in your socks. Those who are prone to commit robbery probably have heard that also. I usually carry a little more money than I think I will spend, a copy of my passport, a cellphone, and keys to the apartment. If I am in a crowded area, like the Metro during busy times, I will hook my thumbs in my front pockets. That way, I will know if a hand is trying to go in my pocket. While traveling, I have never been a victim of robbery, but I think I would empty my pockets and allow any searches if I felt eminent danger. And I don't do things to upset the local populace. I am a guest in their country, I have very few rights while there.
Let me chip in on my experience carrying cash. Someone of one of these forums suggested carrying a money clip instead of a wallet. Turns out, it's a great idea. At home, I carry a wallet with various cards and driver's license inside, but these are unnecessary when abroad and I leave my regular wallet and its contents at home. When I monger, I only carry a money clip on the street.
It's harder to pick a money clip out of your from pocket instead of a wallet. You can also fold up a color photocopy of your passport if you like and keep in the money clip with your credit cards. I carry my US Passport card instead, along with my daily cash allotment and my debit card only if I need to make an ATM withdrawal.
I also have a undergarment money belt to wear "in transit", but I don't carry it around when I get to my destination. It's awkward enough just to access at the airport, much less in a bar or on the street. Once at my destination, I only carry around the cash I plan to spend for the day (or evening) and leave the rest in the safe at the hotel. I also found a plastic case to carry my condoms in. You don't want to be crushing those things, do you? I use a Nintendo Gameboy game case, which you can find on Ebay. Its perfect for a large size condom (or 2) and a little packet of lube thrown in. That goes in the other pocket. I also got one of those plastic "squeeze" coin purses to carry in places like Thailand, where specific coins are important to keep handy. Maybe not such a concern in Colombia, where small denomination coins don't buy squat. But, it sure helped to organize coins for when you are using a public toilet or "baht bus" in Pattaya. So consider getting one of those in places where coins are actually useful to the monger.
There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.
It's off topic but I can't help thinking about the waist to thigh condoms I read about on this website, and only on this web site. A kind of rubber underwear that defies practical use.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2030062]There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickHertz;2030062]There are companies that specialize in travel clothing. Shirts and pants with zippers and pockets inside of pockets. Also hidden pockets to keep your money. Just do a google search and you will find many options.[/QUOTE]Check out Clothing Arts. I have 3 pairs of their pick pocket proof pants. They are expensive, but well worth it. Pockets have triple protection. Button, zipper, and inside hidden zipper too.
I'm an experienced in all things about Medellin, if you need help, information or just to hang out and party leave me a message for directions.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2029810]Let me chip in on my experience carrying cash. Someone of one of these forums suggested carrying a money clip instead of a wallet. Turns out, it's a great idea. At home, I carry a wallet with various cards and driver's license inside, but these are unnecessary when abroad and I leave my regular wallet and its contents at home. When I monger, I only carry a money clip on the street.
It's harder to pick a money clip out of your from pocket instead of a wallet. You can also fold up a color photocopy of your passport if you like and keep in the money clip with your credit cards. I carry my US Passport card instead, along with my daily cash allotment and my debit card only if I need to make an ATM withdrawal.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention the most important reason to carry a money clip. When someone confronts you with a weapon and demands your money all you need to do is, well... give them your money.
I started carrying a money clip a long time ago when I was living in NYC. A good friend of mine was mugged. They confronted him with a weapon and asked for his money. He wasn't so concerned about his money but he didn't want to give them everything else in his wallet, where he kept his money. He ended up in the hospital.
And people think Medellin is dangerous.
You don't need a money clip not to keep your money in your wallet. My money is in my right front pocket and my wallet is in my left front pocket, unless they aren't. I like to carry a roll of dimes in my right front pocket if I am in a shaky area.
[QUOTE=KainNYC;2030380]I'm an experienced in all things about Medellin, if you need help, information or just to hang out and party leave me a message for directions.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=KainNYC;1992652]I am in Medellin now with others if someone needs help making connections or just to have fun. PM me, about yourself and what you are looking for.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=KainNYC;1989365]We will still be meeting for the party. Anyone in Medellin these next few weeks send me your whatsapp number. If you need help with Spanish, dance lessons LOL, the scene, casas, strip clubs, let me know. Happy mongering. Gentlemen.[/QUOTE]Colombian Jake, back from the dead, hahaha. Or is it Medellin Paisa (Noah Goldberg) this time?
Man, you guys will never learn.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2030487]Colombian Jake, back from the dead, hahaha. Or is it Medellin Paisa (Noah Goldberg) this time?
Man, you guys will never learn....[/QUOTE]It seems odd to want strangers to stay at your apartment. I realize most of us are otherwise decent people when not mongering but I would neither invite strangers from a working girl forum to stay in my home nor would I stay with someone who would welcome me sight unseen without recommendation from a credible mutual friend.
I think I missed the part where anyone invited strangers to stay at their apartment but I agree it would seem odd. On the other hand. Airbnb.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2030522]It seems odd to want strangers to stay at your apartment. I realize most of us are otherwise decent people when not mongering but I would neither invite strangers from a working girl forum to stay in my home nor would I stay with someone who would welcome me sight unseen without recommendation from a credible mutual friend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2030551]I think I missed the part where anyone invited strangers to stay at their apartment but I agree it would seem odd. On the other hand. Airbnb.[/QUOTE]I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2030802]I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?[/QUOTE]You did. It's 3 pages back now.
Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time.
Mayorista was a hive of scum and villainy. Atrocious service. Hooker warned me not to stick around or I could get robbed.
I did some rounds of Vera Cruz during the day last week but it was fucking 30 see outside at noon. Too hot. Very dusty as a result so I didn't pull. Some hotties on the street. If you don't speak Spanish and can't blend in do not go there.
My routine was morning Chica Punto, lunch, Chica Punto again, then at night Club Gusto. Tried other casas too which I will write about later but this is where I shot my load.
Parque Lleras has lots of hookers around late at night. I would say about a dozen. They will go join the prepagos in the clubs or get your attention when you walk around. Especially if your white like my buddy.
Parque Lleras hookers come and go with cycles depending on when the cops crack down on things. This explains Club Gusto and other high end clubs bringing in the prepagos.
One last thing. Don't go to Centro on a Sunday. Foot traffic is dead. I ubered to and taxied from the mall with chicas punto. Did not feel remotely safe walking around.
Sunday was extra deserted because of the May Day (international workers day) holiday on Monday. It's usually quieter on Sundays in general but not as much as last Sunday. You will find the nearby Plaza Botero extra busy on holiday weekends like last weekend. Calle 54 where chicas punto is located is not especially dangerous but shit happens.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2030842]Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time..[/QUOTE]
OK, so no thanks to that offer. You were right, Colombia Jake 2.0.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2030802]I see that. I could have sworn I saw an offer to stay in a room at their apartment for $50 a night. Maybe a post was edited?[/QUOTE]
Preface. The Tall Man has been in Colombia for the better part of the past month with most time spent in Medellin. I am here now in my private house in the northern area. All told this is my, give or take, 12th travel and stay in Medellin in the past 8 or 9 years so I have a decent understanding of both the P4 P and non-pro nuances with respects to the Paisa culture. What you see here is simply my opinion, observations and experiences of this latest trip, so keep the trolls and haters out.
As I look at the 66 Whatsapp connections on my cell, yes all but a few of these 66 connections were obtained and developed from the below in the PAST MONTH before my arrival and into the visit. You must have Whatsapp to navigate. This all takes a great deal of time and effort.
Facebook I started a month before my visit and got connected to a handful of prepagos and had them at the ready however, on second thought after I arrived, my other connections proved a lot of fun and besides my personality is just not into the hard core prepago girls which 100% of the facebook girls are no exceptions, just too much silicone enhanced fake ness that for me is a turn off. IMHO, so I never followed through with any facebook prepagos.
Colombian cupid Again I started a good 5 to 6 weeks before my arrival. It takes a lot of time and effort but weeded through literally hundreds of interests. IMHO if any Paisa is under 30 years of age and decent looking she is looking for P4 P action, guaranteed. I ended up meeting 4 that I met on CC and developed a friendly relationship with, 3 ended in sex. Too many details about strategy and costs and experiences of what works but let me say that this could be a great source for both non-pro and prepagos BUT be ready to put in a massive amount of time as it takes a lot of effort and time so that the non-pros get comfortable to meet. The prepagos that you meet will be and are very direct.
Seeking arrangements Got a one month subscription 3 weeks before my arrival and ended up meeting with one 22 yo university student. She was the proverbial girl next door and had such a innocence to her that drew me to her instead of the other 6 or 7 that I had connected with and got their Whatsapp and talked with them. A bit of drama with the one non-pro that I met and enjoed sex with. I wanted to try this avenue but don't know if I would subscribe again as100% of these prepagos (they all are prepagos) on SA can be found on either CC or [URL]http://photoprepagos.com/[/URL] or [URL]http://mileroticos.com/[/URL] discussed below.
Strip Clubs The first time at Fase Dos on a Saturday night. Much has been written so will not bore everyone. My opinion based on the few hours that I spent here on a very busy weekend night, the majority of Paisas were 6/7's with a handful of 7/8's and maybe 2 9's and no dimes. I was not impressed and see no need to return.
Casas As I typically do, I visited, should say frequented both Energy & New Energy as these both have provided consistent fun for me over the past 5 or 6 years and all my visits on this trip did not disappoint. Much is been said and written about the casas in Medellin and these are always my go-to back up. Three word about casas: reasonable, consistent and convenient.
Special mention to both [URL]http://photoprepagos.com/[/URL] or [URL]http://mileroticos.com/[/URL] As I spent some considerable time and effort and found a about 5 sweethearts both in call (stadium area) and out call (3 outcalls total) to my house.
Many more details but not enough time so if anyone has a specific question send me a PM or ask here.
TTM.
Did you check out the Raudal area also or just VeraCruz?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2030842]Quick mid trip report:
If you are looking for fat Brazilian like ass hit up chicas punto. 30 k for a half hour. 60 k for an hour. Very nice fat asses here. Not so much for flacitas. I highly recommend Sarah she even offers anal at a steep price (200 k tip). All covered sex. BBJ was 50 k. But damn she knows how to suck cock.
Club Gusto is a hive of prepagos. Even Wednesday night when it was dead at least a dozen prepagos sitting at the bar. Go to one of the balconeys for quieter conversation.
Don't get ripped off. They will all go for 200 or 250 k at most. I saw some girls trying to get 600 k from tourists who didn't know better. I got the girl down to 250 k within a couple of minutes. I could give a fuck if I wasn't minding my business. The two Brits thanked me.
Probably could go cheaper.
All the prepagos who deal with extranjeros exclusively look for the magical 100 USD which is at about to 280 k now. Doesn't matter what your fucking game is like that's the number they think is fair. So if it is early in the night and busy expect her to hold out. Best to seal the deal a couple of hours before closing time.
Mayorista was a hive of scum and villainy. Atrocious service. Hooker warned me not to stick around or I could get robbed..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2031001]Did you check out the Raudal area also or just VeraCruz?[/QUOTE]Just Vera Cruz. Raudal is as you know further north. I did go to the Hotel de Balcones Cubano and it was about as north as Raudal. There were at least two other corners with hookers in hooker outfits but that area looked like it was seriously out of Judge Dredd. I would not go there alone under any circumstances. That made me not check out Raudal.
There was an interesting sight at Mayorista. There was this chubby white gringo with what appeared to be perfect white hair. He had reflective glasses on. He looked too young to have so much white hair. He was with three locals and a bucket of local beer. Honestly it looked off. Like he was some under cover cop pretending to be drunk. He did not look old enough to have white hair. It really looked like a disguise.
Anyway I found the best ass in Cartagena and negotiated for a daily rate of 400. Bareback. The only catch is she has a kid and needs to go see him every day for a few hours. The only thing keeping me staying in bed all day with her.
Yeah like I said, I did 5 laps a day of VeraCruz but the Raudal area seemed more dangerous to me, I did one lap and hauled ass out of there, did not seem a cool place for a lone gringo to wander.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2031353]Just Vera Cruz. Raudal is as you know further north. I did go to the Hotel de Balcones Cubano and it was about as north as Raudal. There were at least two other corners with hookers in hooker outfits but that area looked like it was seriously out of Judge Dredd. I would not go there alone under any circumstances. That made me not check out Raudal.
There was an interesting sight at Mayorista. There was this chubby white gringo with what appeared to be perfect white hair. He had reflective glasses on. He looked too young to have so much white hair. He was with three locals and a bucket of local beer. Honestly it looked off. Like he was some under cover cop pretending to be drunk. He did not look old enough to have white hair. It really looked like a disguise.
Anyway I found the best ass in Cartagena and negotiated for a daily rate of 400. Bareback. The only catch is she has a kid and needs to go see him every day for a few hours. The only thing keeping me staying in bed all day with her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2031358]Yeah like I said, I did 5 laps a day of VeraCruz but the Raudal area seemed more dangerous to me, I did one lap and hauled ass out of there, did not seem a cool place for a lone gringo to wander.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]So where exactly is the Raudal area in relationship to the Vera Cruz Church. Can you provide the cross streets and / or landmarks describing the location.
Your statement that the Raudal area seems more dangerous to you than the area around the Vera Cruz church has me wanting to check this place out. I hope your not referring to the area with all the hard core drug addicts laying in the middle of the road on the way to Minorista from the Avenida de la grief area.
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.
So, Stared off wirth a girl who was a pro with me and she is now bascially my GF. No money being exchanged she doesn't want it. I go to her house etc we are cool.
WEIRD, I walked past parque poblado, police stops me and asks to see my ID, puts it in his police app thingie. The thing is I have no choice, I am in their country and I understand the job. Good part is, it was a local ID and not my passport so no international numbers to run.
An old reliable that I have seen for a couple years, she text me that she thinks I am a liar every time I come and then just blocked me on all my whatsapp and IG. I think she was upset that I tried to see her when my flight came and I flaked but I guess she felt she had enough. She said she wasn't even mad just didn't want to connect with me anymore. Oh well, sort of sucks cause she had a really really pretty face and huge tits. Our sex was very intense like boyfirend and girlfirend. So my ego is a little damaged that a pro bascially "broke up" with me. 0 Mil.
I saw this other chick I banged before. Fake everything, her lips are soo full of collagen that when we kiss I can barely get to her tongue! She is cool, I actually didn't bring enough money because the uber driver picked up the wrong person and half way through realized it wasn't me. I took only enough cash. So we banged and she knew me and was cool enough to let me go to the ATM and come back to her apartment. (trust with a colombian and money is a rare thing so props) Oh side note, despite all her fake tits, ass and lips she actually fucks like a real person, none of this robot shit which is typical of a frakenstein girl. 150 MIL.
There was this really really pretty Venezuelan I have been wanting to bang for some time. I kept seeing her ad and I stayed in touch. She was out of town in bogata and Cartegena. My luck turned around and she got to medellin yesterday! I saw her first thing.
Her face is like that Venezuelan angel face. It reminds me of this girl I have been wanting to fuck so this is why I want this one so bad. She was a bit thicker then I though she would be in person but, none the less still very pretty. Her english was ok and she learned it all from watching TV. Huge fake tits, big nartural round ass. She could go to the gym but that face really sets me off. She was a semi robot at first and for a propina it was oral naturale. (which BTW the oral naturale upset has been running ramant) 130 mil + 40 Mil tip.
Oh and to top if off, this other girl who I have been in contact with since 2014, and on and off she is soo bi-polar she would either block me or unblock me or run away. Anway, FINALLY randomly I text her, she says she will come over and be in my house in 20 min. She asked me to order food and make sure there is alcohol. She comes over, she has huge natural tits, red hair, pettite, and speaks with a cute accent. Her english isn't too bad, and my spanish passable. We have spanglish convos. She si very very bubbly in person. Food is all weird getting here and we order from another place. In the meantime she is drinking vodka on an empty stomach. And smoking weed. She is on the balcony, gives me a kiss then backs off. We go back and fourth, a little kissing then "no" she does to me. She says she is starting to feel sick, she lays on my bed. Her stomach is fucked up, food arrives, she eats a bit of this really gross looking burger. Then goes to the bathroom and yacks in my sink. She says she can only yack in sinks. Great. She lays back down, cleans herself up. I get her an extra toothbrush and make her brush her teeth. She starts to feel semi sick and semi ok. I back off, this makes her want me more. She reaches for my hand on the bed. I start to wander, I test the waters and go for a little touch of her clit on the outside. She doesn't push me away. I proceed and get her pants off, her pussy is wetter then the pacific ocean! We don't bone, she grabs my dick and gives me an awesome handjob and I bust on her huge DD natural tits. The real bi polar part happeneds after. She starts this INSANE giggle fest. She starts getting the giggles. She says my ears are soft and likes soft ears because her ears are hard. Then she says it is like a lollipop ears. Holy fuck, she has uncontrolable laughter for 15 minutes non stop. Fuck. OK so finally she is like "I have to write for school tomorrow.) I tell her I will call her an uber, she says she will but then when it comes asks me for cash to pay, (***** THIS WAS A SETUP) So I gave her a 50 MIl (yeah I know whatever it was all I had and she knew it) and she is off. 50 Mil.
All in all that is my week, to recap.
Got checked for ID from police.
A regular prepay for 2 years blocked and dumped me.
A semi pro became my GF and is no longer working.
A new regular prepay trusted me to leave her house to pay her after.
A pretty Venezualan looked exactly like she did in her photos.
A girl I been talking to for 3 years and never met face to face, finally saw me in person got drunk, threw up and then gave me a handjob.
How is your week gentlemen? It has been weird for me.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2031722]WEIRD, I walked past parque poblado, police stops me and asks to see my ID, puts it in his police app thingie. The thing is I have no choice, I am in their country and I understand the job. Good part is, it was a local ID and not my passport so no international numbers to run..[/QUOTE]So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2031665]
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]From Vera Cruz it's north past the back of the Museum and two blocks west.
Our Colombian driver thought I was insane for going to Centro casas and Mayorista. Of course he wanted 300 k to bring us a girl for an hour. I started shooting jizz on hooker ass at Chicas Punto and sending photos to him with 30 k as a caption. He was like WTF at first but we laughed hard about it over beers later.
He said I was his first customer to do that shit, hahaha.
I sent the same photos to my Cartagena tout who would reply with "bon provecho" hahaha.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2031665]So where exactly is the Raudal area in relationship to the Vera Cruz Church. Can you provide the cross streets and / or landmarks describing the location.
Your statement that the Raudal area seems more dangerous to you than the area around the Vera Cruz church has me wanting to check this place out. I hope your not referring to the area with all the hard core drug addicts laying in the middle of the road on the way to Minorista from the Avenida de la grief area.
Anyways the location of the Raudal area would be appreciated.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2014300&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2014300.
Post #22054.
Line 1. Should read "just SW of Plaza Botero" - not SE.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2014300]My Centro Street guide- (posted most of this in earlier posts but not all in one spot-gathered in 5 days of endless wandering around Centro by myself March of '17).
1. Behind the small white church-Iglesia De La Veracruz-Calle51/ Carr53 -just SE of Plaza Botero.
More young ones in this crowd, ID check a good idea, some trannies too- so penis check also. Starts at pay-phones in front of church and goes around block clockwise on 3 sides till the museum is on your left. Most the glue huffers are in front of / alongside the church. More trannies in this group too. Some of the trannies are convincing little spinners so make sure you are getting what you want. Several little bars along east side of Car53 between Cal51 & 52 with girls in the bar or doorways. Lots just leaning against the walls around the block too. I usually had to do a few laps and sometimes come back in a bit to find one I wanted..[/QUOTE]
Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2031794][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2014300&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2014300.
Post #22054.[/QUOTE]That place is my backyard and yes the going price is 30 K including the room. Not a place for an obvious gringo with no Spanish speaking skills though.
It is definitely not a big tourist draw but let's be honest, it's only one street west of shops selling mini Botero sculptures and postcards. Commuters, shoppers, the SWs and their handlers, drug addicts and sellers, and a whole lot of uniformed and plainclothes police all co-exist peacefully for the most part. Something flares up every so often but mostly everybody tends to their business. It's not that unusual to see sandal wearing backpackers wandering around (but not lingering). All that being said, after 6 pm, when it gets dark, all bets are OFF. At night, the area belongs to the street people. If you are looking for trouble, that is the place to find it after dark.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2031886]That place is my backyard and yes the going price is 30 K including the room. Not a place for an obvious gringo with no Spanish speaking skills though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike963;2031882]Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Not exactly guest friendly. If your bringing in Chicas that are obviously younger than you security will have you go to the front desk and copy their cedula. This is not a mongering hotel I stayed there for a few weeks and had one regular I brought in only so I just registered her in but never noticed any one else bringing young darlings in.
No Spanish skills either, suggest you stay elsewhere as your going to need assistance in Medellin.
Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Mike963;2031882]Hi all,
As I had mentioned earlier, about my plan to visit Medellin.
Looking to book a hotel in city, to avoid issues, as I speak only English!
Is Ibis a girl / guest friendly one?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Not sure about hotels but I stayed at primaverazero hostel in pablado (5 minute walk to Parque Illeras), can't beat the location. Had a private room with bathroom for $25 a night, was very clean. No IDs or restrictions on chicas unless they stayed past 6 am then you had to pay like $10. I had about 3 chicas during my stay, no issue. Usually no one was at the desk as they have one person working this and another hostel that was 100 feet away.
I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?
Malls:
I'll get this out of the way quickly so I hopefully save you some time. Oviedo / Tesoro / SantaF / Carulla etc. If you've been to one you've been to them all as far as scoring dates is concerned. There are different stores and merchandises in the different malls, so if you are into shopping it's worth checking them all out.
Saturday / Sunday:
Saturday is the same as any weekday for casas - - except rush hour is a little earlier, more like 1 to 2 pm instead of 3 to 4 pm during the week. Sunday there are of course fewer places open. Those that are open will have fewer girls than during the week. The hours are more like 11 am Until 5 or 6 pm. Since most are open, I will mention a couple that are not: Energy & Aiffe.
New Life is probably the most popular Centro casa. It has Sunday hours. The Medellin list and Medellin map has phone numbers and hours that are pretty accurate, along with all the other information.
Have a good time.
[QUOTE=MrThomas;2032192]I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrThomas;2032192]I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.
I write though as I'm curious what options there are for Saturday and Sunday during the day? Are any casas decent on Saturday? I have never found anything for Sundays, am curious what peoples suggestions are for pros or chasing non-pros.
I don't have great luck at malls, but do check a few out. I haven't made it out to El Tesoro, does anyone know if that one is any good?[/QUOTE]El Tesoro is a good mall. I was there on a Sunday, early afternoon and not a whole lot of people. Probably picks up a little later. J&see Felicia was almost empty when we sat down and was packed by the time we finished lunch.
Maybe it was a library card. What does it matter? If the guy doesn't have wants or warrants, the police procedure is to file a report of the contact and let him move on. That seems to be what happened. I don't personally notice anything very out of the ordinary about what was described in the post. As per usual on these boards, it smells a little exaggerated (Medellin police don't typically do ID checks on people without cause). Anyone who spends time in Centro has seen a thief chased down and roughed up by a crowd before the police move in and check his ID and pat him down. I can't ever remember seeing them randomly rousts people, especially foreigners.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2031735]So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrThomas;2032192]I wanted to note Energy charged me 140 k an hour when I went there this week. This was a bit of a surprise as I thought their prices had gone up.[/QUOTE]I visited Engeria twice in April of last year, just a few days apart. I also noticed a difference of about 30 k for an between my two visits, my morning visit being cheaper than my visit near closing time, a few evenings earlier. I don't know if it was the time of day or just the difference in the two mamasans.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2031735]So you said you have a local ID you presented to the police. If it was a Colombian Cedula it would of been linked to your Passport or you would of never been able to obtain the Cedula. If it wasn't a Colombian Cedula, what type of ID did you show the police?[/QUOTE]Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a local with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2032428]Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a local with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.[/QUOTE]Happened to me before in Medellin. Perfectly normal. I even got asked to donate to their retirement fund hahahaha. They are looking for drugs and bribes. Just cooperate and don't show any fear. You will be fine.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2032521]Happened to me before in Medellin. Perfectly normal. I even got asked to donate to their retirement fund hahahaha. They are looking for drugs and bribes. Just cooperate and don't show any fear. You will be fine.[/QUOTE]Yeah its just after all these years this was the first time and it was in a string of weird events to happen here to me. It's all good.
Given that personal quantities of marijuana (20 grams), cocaine (1 gram), and even Quaaludes (for those who are old enough to remember them, or maybe old enough to not remember them, since they basically erase all memory) are legal, what drugs are the cops looking for? Heroin? Does Colombia have a heroin problem?
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2032428]Oh it was just my local ID from my state I ment, 'Not as in I am a loca with a local co ID
I was like I was walking on the street, there was a group of police there, doing sort of a "traffic stop" style stop except it's.
Pedestrians. I have nothing to hide and they would randomly look at and stop passer bys on the sidewalk. It's ok, I understand and when I talk to my friends who are local here, it happeneds to them as well. They just need to log activity if they stopped someone.[/QUOTE]It's best to always carry a photocopy on your Passport along with a photocopy of your latest entry Stamp with you.
Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin.
Sun 12:00 pm - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Fri 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm.
Sat 12:00 pm - 10:00 pm.
[URL]http://www.restaurantehacienda.com/[/URL]
Salon Versalles (great breakfast / lunch).
Carrera 49 # 53-39 Paseo Junin.
Sun 8:00 am - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Sat 7:00 am - 9:00 pm.
Lili A La Carta.
Calle 54 #38-29.
Parque de Boston.
Mon. Sat 11:00 am - 10:00 pm.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2032552]Given that personal quantities of marijuana (20 grams), cocaine (1 gram), and even Quaaludes (for those who are old enough to remember them, or maybe old enough to not remember them, since they basically erase all memory) are legal, what drugs are the cops looking for? Heroin? Does Colombia have a heroin problem?[/QUOTE]The cops are looking for money. If you don't have drugs they'll even ask for 5 mil pesos. It happened to me back in November. I also had a cop look at my cellphone and tell me it can't be mine. Just stupid shit.
I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that.
On the weekend it was a different scene. The later it got the more aggressive hookers would be. From the balcony of Club Gusto I saw one female figure (could have been a tranny) literally try to yank men to go with her. I was not close enough to see what she really looked like. At 3 am as you walked out of the park area hookers would cat call. Especially at the entrances to the park area from Calle 10.
I quickly formed a rule that any women not accompanied by a man has about a 70% chance of being a prepago. If it's two women dressed to impress who are just wondering around then it's a 90% chance of them being prepagos. And before someone criticizes me, I mean specifically at night around Parque Lleras.
My friend who had never been to Colombia, and had never met a prepago before was really baffled at the scene. It's a light version of the Clocktower plaza in Cartagena.
Club Gusto:
This club is right upstairs from Medellin Beer Factory.
I first went Wednesday night at 10:30 pm (the club opens at 10 pm). No cover charge that night and there were maybe 12 women sitting at the bar playing with their phones. They did not appear to be part of any group and no men were with them. It didn't take too long to exchange smiles with them and chat. We weren't offered massages or anything overt, but when I stepped out onto the balcony the women would trickle out slowly and ask me if I wanted company that night. It wasn't in my face. They'd ask where you were from, if they can have a cigarette or a drink and after a few minutes the topic of money for company would come up. I saw one girl who had a nice rear come in and sit down then what appeared to be a Colombian, walked up to her said a few words and she then joined him at his table. He was older and fatter than her. I also saw obese men with tiny women rubbing up against them and sitting on their lap.
This isn't La Dulce Vida from Cartagena, or Habanos in Panama City, but it's certainly getting there.
Prices were insane. Anywhere from 800 k to 300 k. If you stood your ground you could get them down to 200 k easily but you had an easier time doing this after midnight. I'm not sure game or being young and good looking has anything to do with it. Like one girl told me, she regularly has normal guys try to pick her up and she tells them she's working and only looking for money.
I pulled one chica Saturday night, on my second visit. It was 200 k for short time but she did such a great job that I offered her another 200 k for TLN. When I woke up, she was wrapped around me with her arms and legs. Needless to say I had a serious case of morning wood. I nudged her and asked her to take care of me. Her reaction was the very definition of a champ: whereas most women would complain and act cranky this chica moved over to my dick and sucked it dry, hahaha. Good stuff.
Watch out for 'party girls. ' I saw a couple of them try to get my friend at a very high price for all night to 'party. ' They looked like trouble and luckily he caught wind of it too. Also on the weekends there are lots of normal chicas there in their respective groups. This makes it a bit challenging to pick up p4 p if you can't tell them apart.
New Life:
I took my buddy to his first casa experience here. The only bit of news I have is on the propina for BBJ. The girl wanted 50 k which is steep for a casa propina but I paid anyway.
Chicas Punto:
Oh my! I remember people here complaining that the girls were 'fat' and 'unhealthy' but all I saw was at least one good booty for every two girls presented. I made it my mission to session twice a day for an hour each time. This included a nice massage and a solid doggy style fuck riding a good piece of ass. 30 k for a half hour and 60 k for an hour. It's cheaper than the vera cruz area because at 30 k for a half hour you would still pay for the hotel room in Vera Cruz. There is something to be said about the economics of this casa.
One of the girls agreed to give me her number which I always found was hard in casa. They would always respond with "no tengo celular" Probably rules of the casa. This same girl was considering letting me fly her out to Cartagena but she goes to vocational college and it would have interrupted her studies. She would have been a cheap opportunity to wife up in Cartagena.
The multa to take a girl out if 40 k. Yes, it's that cheap. I didn't try it but one of the girls said it's 40 k to the house and 200 k to her for her to spend the entire day with me.
Yakuza:
It looks like they actually have rooms now instead of stalls with tarps in them. I dropped in once when there were only girls there. One of the women walked me through what was on offer and she was speaking so quickly I couldn't make out what she was saying except it was very technical. If you pay for a half hour it's full sex. For 45 minutes that includes a blowjob. And hour included a massage or some other shit. She was miming some of these with her hands which made me really whorney. She also said it was possible to go up to the hotel next door. After the full seminar on what's on offer she told me she would introduce the girls. Then she extended her hand, smiled and gave me her name. I didn't partake that day in Yakuza and I regret it because I didn't see her again. She had a normal face and body, but the way she described everything really made me want to fuck her.
Hotel Balcones de Cuba:
I decided to uber my way over to this hotel based on a previous report that indicated there was some good booty here. Unfortunately none of the booty was fat. It was a weird experience. You buzz your way in and the receptionist, who does not seem happy at all, asks you what you want. I explain I'm here for a massage. She motions me to a living room next to her. There I find a dude sitting on a couch with a gym bag. I nod and sit down. A few minutes later he blurts out some fast Spanish and I can only respond with nodding. He nods and gets up and I follow him some flight of stairs to another living room. There's a dude here who looks like Furio from The Sopranos along with a group of other dudes who are watching TV. He takes me to a hallway with four rooms, and knocks on each one and then leaves. I get the presentation and decide it's not for me. As per Colombian custom no hard feelings, and Furio bids me farewell.
Vera Cruz:
I spent very little time here, so I don't have much to add other than Wolf's excellent posts on the area. It was too frigging hot to make the rounds more than once. Hotel Channel had some hotties in the doorway. I may partake next time. My biggest issue is I know myself. If the booty is exceptionally good I try to go bareback and I have a feeling this is the last place in the city I should be doing that.
Mayorista:
I posted about this in my mid report (s). I see no reason to visit unless you're a local who knows what he's doing.
Overall:
The only bad service I got was in Mayorista. All the other hookers did their job and some went above and beyond. The best part? All the bakers, waitresses, waiters, and business owners I had met previously remembered me. They all had the same line for me when I thanked them: "con mucho gusto. ".
You wrote a very nice report. I never had a casa girl decline to give me her phone number, ever. Once at Luna Lunera it happened, but the girl gave friend me on Facebook on the spot.
Yakuza stays open until 4 am if you dare. You probably know there is another casa one flight up from chicas puntocom. I am a member of a Colombia site similar to this one. There is a big argument going on about guys who go to escorts in apartments, pay 150 k and get bad service or a bait and switch good photo / worse girl scenario. It got heated when some guys called apt customers stupid because those apt girls were mostly from Centro casas where they cost 1\3 and are supervised. Everybody complained about apt. Customers going to the casas and tipping girls big because they are so happy to get the standard service for 50 k instead of 150 k for crap service.
You are on the right track about Veracruz. 30 k for room plus girl but you can go to a casa like New Life for 40 k /15 minutes or 50 k /30 minutes. You have to be on a pretty tight budget to need to save 10 to 20 k and use those rough love motels. I do it for a change once in a while.
Speaking of New Life, guys don't fall for the girls' scam to raise your fee. When you are done, UT your clothes on and go to cashier and pay. The girls tell you bullshit that you have to wait for them or they will get in the shower, anything to get you to the next time cut off. Why the fuck would we want to pay to watch the slowly get dressed. I get it that they want to take a break from the constant presentations and fucking but I have to work for my money.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2032763]I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2032908]I get it that they want to take a break from the constant presentations and fucking but I have to work for my money.[/QUOTE]You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities.
Nice report, just one small correction, the 30 m did include the room when I was with the Veracruz red light girls. And the rooms were nowhere near as bad as yakuza's unabomber shacks.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2032763]I went with a friend of mine to Colombia and our first stop was Medellin. We both got places in El Poblado not far from Parque Lleras for convenience.
Parque Lleras:
Back in November the only real action I saw was street hookers in front of the liquor store. That appears to be gone along with the drug dealers offering gum to start a conversation. Instead, if you are sitting at a bar or restaurant facing the park and are sitting on the patio next to the street you will get prepagos trying to get your attention. And let me tell you it's fucking awkward. On our first night one girl would keep walking in and out of the restaurant, and pull out her cellphone in front of us and just stare at us. Evidently we were supposed to motion for her to join us if we were interested, but neither of us clued in because she wasn't dressed to impress in anyway. Her outfit looked like something Crockett and Tubbs would wear out of Miami vice. It didn't take too long for two women to step out of a cab right in front of us and start talking to us. The women abruptly walked away. I looked back and realized the manager of the establishment had come over.
Needless to say, local patrons and business owners don't like hookers propositioning customers out in the open like that.
On the weekend it was a different scene. The later it got the more aggressive hookers would be. From the balcony of Club Gusto I saw one female figure (could have been a tranny) literally try to yank men to go with her. I was not close enough to see what she really looked like. At 3 am as you walked out of the park area hookers would cat call. Especially at the entrances to the park area from Calle 10.
I quickly formed a rule that any women not accompanied by a man has about a 70% chance of being a prepago. If it's two women dressed to impress who are just wondering around then it's a 90% chance of them being prepagos. And before someone criticizes me, I mean specifically at night around Parque Lleras.
My friend who had never been to Colombia, and had never met a prepago before was really baffled at the scene. It's a light version of the Clocktower plaza in Cartagena.
Club Gusto:.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2033087]You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities.[/QUOTE]But he specified when you have finished fucking during your time bracket and the girl stalls to get you to roll over to the next time bracket. The girl would be getting paid in the new bracket without working, and you would be paying into the new bracket without fucking. Same as if a taxi driver drove in circles to run up the meter when he could have dropped you at your destination 10 minutes ago.
Well yes, in fact I do think they work for their money. They are working for their money while they are fucking or walking in Tues. Presentation lines. I don't consider their shower time or freshening their makeup work that I should be paying them to do. Just like I don't expect my employer to give me extra money for the time I tale to get my car foxed on Tues. Weekend. I am not at all fat, nor am I old enough to retire. Also, most of their customers are neither old nor gringos. My point is I have no problem paying for the session but when it's over I don't want to keep paying. Anyone who feels differently can sit there in the room and let the time go by, it's their money after all.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2033087]You don't think they are working for their money? Try getting fucked 6 times a day by old, fat gringos, half who want either BB, anal or both, just to maybe make 150 k. Not implying you're old or fat, but they aren't there because of the handsome customers or the charming personalities.[/QUOTE].
Yes, that is what I was trying to say. I was trying to help guys avoid getting ripped off.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2033141]But he specified when you have finished fucking during your time bracket and the girl stalls to get you to roll over to the next time bracket. The girl would be getting paid in the new bracket without working, and you would be paying into the new bracket without fucking. Same as if a taxi driver drove in circles to run up the meter when he could have dropped you at your destination 10 minutes ago.[/QUOTE]
For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?
Nice recommendations, Versailles is a real institution, lots of history. Unfortunately, it's a bit down on its luck in recent years. The wait staff is not very engaged. On busy nights. Especially weekends. The floor is full of trash, dirtier than the sidewalk outside. Once I had to send a waiter to get a second knife and fork because the first set he gave me had old food stuck on it. I try to avoid the place but I'll have coffee or beer from time to time.
A place I can add to the list is: Cafe Colombo Credenza, Carrera 45 No 53-24.
10th Floor. It's on the 10th floor of a well known English language school. There is the bonus benefit of college age girls all over the place. They are open pretty late. The continental style food is surprisingly good and the dining room is decorated in a sophisticated urban style with several tables on an outdoor terrace with great views of the city and the mountains. One word of warning, the portions are American sized so be careful with how much you order. The prices are competitive.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2032711]Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin.
Sun 12:00 pm - 6:00 pm.
Mon. Fri 12:00 pm - 8:00 pm.
Sat 12:00 pm - 10:00 pm..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2032711]Restaurants in the Centro area that I recommend. 2 of them on the Junin walking street.
Botaniko bistro cafe bar (literally right next door to New Life).
Calle 56 #43 - 43.
Hours:
Mon. Thu 11:30 am - 10:00 pm.
Fri. Sat 11:30 am - 11:00 pm.
Hacienda (great traditional Colombian dishes).
Carrera 49, 52-98 Paseo Junin..[/QUOTE]The owner of Botaniko is a friend of mine. Go there, it's a great place and he speaks a little English.
You will find that it varies quite a bit from person to person. It depends on how guys spend their time. For example most everyone on this site spends time with girls. Let's randomly pick five guys and say they see girls ten times a month. The cost of that can vary depending whether they pick girls up at Veracruz, Mayorista, Fase 2, or go to casas. Let's say the same guys eat out at restaurants 10 times per month. That cost will vary depending on whether they eat at high end places like Carmen and La Provincia or whether they eat only lunch specials at Carbon why Sabor. So you have to give an idea of how you think you might spend your time and you will get a useful answer. Another way to put it in perspective is think about how much you are able to or willing to spend and you will get some feedback about what kind of lifestyle you can expect.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2033224]For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?[/QUOTE]
I second that. It's a great place where you can get a healthy meal (not always easy in Medellin). The littlest male waiter makes me laugh because when he tells you the daily special it's like he's a reverend reading a sermon. They are really serious about what they do and they keep every part of the restaurant spotless. That is something else that is not easy to find in Centro.
[QUOTE=Fincaboy;2033285]The owner of Botaniko is a friend of mine. Go there, it's a great place and he speaks a little English.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2033211]Well yes, in fact I do think they work for their money. They are working for their money while they are fucking or walking in Tues. Presentation lines. I don't consider their shower time or freshening their makeup work that I should be paying them to do. Just like I don't expect my employer to give me extra money for the time I tale to get my car foxed on Tues. Weekend. I am not at all fat, nor am I old enough to retire. Also, most of their customers are neither old nor gringos. My point is I have no problem paying for the session but when it's over I don't want to keep paying. Anyone who feels differently can sit there in the room and let the time go by, it's their money after all.
.[/QUOTE]I understand your purpose and agree with the principle. When the job's done punch the clock and go. However, the way you worded it implied their money isn't earned.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2033224]For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?[/QUOTE]I've spent just under $500 in 33 days.
Like any other number you get, it's useless to you. My rent and utilities are paid by my boss / friend, frequently my friends take me to dinner or movies and pick up the bill, I buy less than half the groceries and cook at the apartment once or twice a day. In the next 30 days I'll probably spend $4000.
If you are planning to come here for a month or more you need to figure out how much you can afford to spend. Are you comfortable eating comida tipica every day, or do you need something more expensive? Are you okay with a $25/ night hotel, or do you want something more upscale? Are the low end casa girls fine with you, or are you looking more upscale? Are you a 3 times a day guy, or a once every 3 days guy? What other entertainment do you need?
You can probably do 30 days for under $1800, if you stick with a $20/ night or less room, eat local food at cheap restaurants, and stick to 6 sessions / week at New Life or comparable places.
Or, you can do 30 days and spend $6000.
Figure out what you want / need and then someone can help you with a budget.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2033224]For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?[/QUOTE]There are people living there on their social security checks and saving money. But if you go to tourist traps expect to pay more.
Speaking Spanish makes a world of difference.
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2033435]You can probably do 30 days for under $1800, if you stick with a $20/ night or less room, eat local food at cheap restaurants, and stick to 6 sessions / week at New Life or comparable places.[/QUOTE]A couple of buddys pay $120/ month in a downtown hotel.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2033224]For the guys who spend months here, how much do you spend monthly on average?[/QUOTE]When I lived in Colombia I spent $1500. - $2000. USD a month all in, I could easily do it for a lot less but I don't want to and don't have to.
Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.
[quote]Originally Posted by YipYippieKayay.
Yakuza:
It looks like they actually have rooms now instead of stalls with tarps in them. I dropped in once when there were only girls there. One of the women walked me through what was on offer and she was speaking so quickly I couldn't make out what she was saying except it was very technical. If you pay for a half hour it's full sex. For 45 minutes that includes a blowjob. And hour included a massage or some other shit. She was miming some of these with her hands which made me really whorney. She also said it was possible to go up to the hotel next door. After the full seminar on what's on offer she told me she would introduce the girls. Then she extended her hand, smiled and gave me her name. I didn't partake that day in Yakuza and I regret it because I didn't see her again. She had a normal face and body, but the way she described everything really made me want to fuck her.[/quote]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2033539]A couple of buddys pay $120/ month in a downtown hotel.[/QUOTE]And would you recommend that for someone who probably doesn't speak the language and has probably never been to Colombia?
If it's a first time come for no more than a week and budget $150/ day. You shouldn't need half of that, but it's a lot better to go home with $400 than to try to get through your last 2 days on $20 because someone picked $100 from your pocket.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2033579]I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.[/QUOTE]Did you use a translator or something for this? I am by no means a Spanish expert although I speak it pretty damn good, but it seems as if you have tried to translate English slang into Spanish slang. To masturbate someone is definitely not "work of hand". Joder? To fuck with someone as in pulling their leg or trying to put one over on them is the same as having intercourse? Could be, but I don't think I have ever heard it used in that manner. And of course mierda is shit. So fucking someone is the same as shit? Back to the drawing board for one of us. Dickhead, care to school us?
I can help keep this simple. Yakuza like most every other casa has a half hour price and a one hour price. Blow job and fuck for either price. You can normally get two pops for the hour rate if you do your chatting before the session starts and tell the chica to let you know when she's done showering or whatever else she wants to do. The session does not begin until you are in the room or leave with the chica to go to a hotel. It isn't any more complicated than that.
Some guys like the half hour rate because you can always extend it if you want. Other guys like the hour rate because you can take your time. Try both and decide which works best for you.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2033579]Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.[/QUOTE]
I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.
It has rained every day for the last 5 weeks, except for 3 days. Every-single-day and I live poblado.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2033849]I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JoseLima;2033882]It has rained every day for the last 5 weeks, except for 3 days. Every-single-day and I live poblado.[/QUOTE]But to be fair, many days it's just a light shower that doesn't last too long. The last few days most of the rain has been at night.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2033614]Did you use a translator or something for this? I am by no means a Spanish expert although I speak it pretty damn good, but it seems as if you have tried to translate English slang into Spanish slang. To masturbate someone is definitely not "work of hand". Joder? To fuck with someone as in pulling their leg or trying to put one over on them is the same as having intercourse? Could be, but I don't think I have ever heard it used in that manner. And of course mierda is shit. So fucking someone is the same as shit? Back to the drawing board for one of us. Dickhead, care to school us?[/QUOTE]'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal. ' 'Joder' is in fact used for fucking in [B]some[/B] parts of the Spanish-speaking world but I can't recall where. In Spain they use 'follar' and in the Southern cone they use 'coger. ' In México they use 'chingar. ' So why not just use 'sexo' and that will be understood everywhere. I believe 'coito' is Portuguese.
[B]No[/B] idea where 'mierda' came from, although if you say 'andate cagar' (cagar = to shit) you are telling someone the English equivalent of 'go fuck yourself. '.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work. 'Besos negros' = anilingus or a 'tossed salad. '.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.
Here's an example. A 'pinche' in México is a dumbass or a useless person. In parts of Central América and in Perú, it means a cheapskate, similar to 'codo' or 'tacaño. ' So here in Spain you see signs saying 'Se necesita pinche' in restaurant windows. My latin américan friend laughed and asked me why someone would be advertising for a useless dumbass.
In Spain it just means the lowest position in the kitchen, the dishwasher, potato peeler, etc. Similarly in Spain 'coger' means to grab ahold of something or catch something. It means 'fuck' in Argentina and Paraguay. So when my friend heard a Spanish lady say to her friend, 'Vamos a coger el autobus' she wondered if that was even possible and why someone would try.
Thanks I appreciate the help, Point taken. I will keep it simple and stick to the basics and not offend.
Plus in most cases body language and actions speak the most and the ladies usually take the lead.
[quote=Dickhead;2033942]'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.[/quote]
When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2033942]'Mamar' is usually used for tit sucking. 'Chupar' is the verb I hear in most places for dick sucking. If my Spanish was at this level I would use 'sexo oral' or 'bucal. ' 'Joder' is in fact used for fucking in [B]some[/B] parts of the Spanish-speaking world but I can't recall where. In Spain they use 'follar' and in the Southern cone they use 'coger. ' In Mxico they use 'chingar. ' So why not just use 'sexo' and that will be understood everywhere. I believe 'coito' is Portuguese.
[B]No[/B] idea where 'mierda' came from, although if you say 'andate cagar' (cagar = to shit) you are telling someone the English equivalent of 'go fuck yourself. '.
But 'beso' for kiss will sure work. 'Besos negros' = anilingus or a 'tossed salad. '.
Using slang when you are not fluent is inadvisable, can be disrespectful, and can even be dangerous.
Here's an example. A 'pinche' in Mxico is a dumbass or a useless person. In parts of Central Amrica and in Per, it means a cheapskate, similar to 'codo' or 'tacao. ' So here in Spain you see signs saying 'Se necesita pinche' in restaurant windows. My latin amrican friend laughed and asked me why someone would be advertising for a useless dumbass.
In Spain it just means the lowest position in the kitchen, the dishwasher, potato peeler, etc. Similarly in Spain 'coger' means to grab ahold of something or catch something. It means 'fuck' in Argentina and Paraguay. So when my friend heard a Spanish lady say to her friend, 'Vamos a coger el autobus' she wondered if that was even possible and why someone would try.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2034076]When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?[/QUOTE]Have not heard that one in my travels. In Argentina they have a cute little [I]dicho:[/I].
'Para evitar el aborto, coger por el orto. '.
I guess 'coito' just translates as coitus. I was wrong about it being Portuguese. Never heard it used but then I am not sure I have ever heard an English speaker actually say coitus either.
Google España claims that joder is commonly used to mean fuck in Spain, but I always hear follar. But it's mostly Catalan in this part of Spain, although follar is not a Catalan word.
In all Latin countries we use different slang words.
Culiar is universal though it refers to the movement we make with our ass, it is pretty vulgar so you should only say it to someone you already know, colombians use pichar more often or sometimes cojer but is more often used in Mexico.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2034076]When I was a kid in the '70's in Costa Rica they used "culiar" for fuck, root word culo (ass) but I didn't refer to anal sex as far as I know, they use that at all in S America?[/QUOTE].
My one day trip, am staying at the Sixtina Plaza hotel, 121 k for the jr suite with a queen size bed and hot tub for 2, went straight to la raya looking for my flaquita, and there she was in a black mini dress, she immediately recognized me, greeted me with a hug and a kiss in the mouth, we sat down at one of the tables had a couple of beers to catch up, it started pouring so we headed to my hotel, but the freaking reception desk wouldn't allow her in because she didn't have her cedula, wtf, so we headed back to the hotel she works at, got a room for a long stay cause we were planning to fuck each others brains out, we get some rum, couple of sodas and cigs for her, we get to the room and she lays me down and starts getting me undressed, we are both soaked so the clothes are sticking to my skin, I start sucking her tiny nipples, and teasing her pussy under her dress, am good and naked so I take her dress and panties off and she sits on my lap facing me french kissing me and stroking my cock between us and rubbing it against her clit, this girl is so tiny but has a big protruding clit and soft pink pussy lips, am so ready to fuck her but we got time for foreplay, she is a teaser, we drink some rum and she asks if she can light up a blunt, I tell her go ahead as long as she lets me eat her pussy while she smokes it, she sits on the bed against the headboard and opens her legs wide apart, such a tiny pussy her lips look like tiny rose petals, I get to work licking, sucking, fingering that pussy, she is moaning in pleasure, and with one hand opens that clit for me so I can stick my tongue all the way in, she starts to tremble, I know she is enjoying it, I lick her asshole and she moans and tells me what a bad boy I am and pulls me up to kiss me, I'm so hard, she grabs my dick and rubs the head on her clit as she cums, she puts the rubber on and we start fucking missionary, slow at first I don't want to cum too quickly, I pick up speed and she moves her hips to meet each of my strokes, I ask her to change positions to cowgirl, to give a me sec to recoup, she gets on top of me and rides me hard, she is dripping so much cum the bed is wet under me, we change to doggy, OMG, such a beautiful sight of that pussy from behind, so I lick and tongue fuck her for a little bit, then fuck her hard for a few minutes, then as am ready to pop I ask her to let me cum on her ass, she says ok, so freaking delicious, that tiny ass with my milk dripping down her ass and on the side of her pussy, we rest a little, drink more shots, we wash off and lay back down on the bed, she lights up a cigarette, as we talk and kiss, while she plays with my limp dick and I finger her, until she gets me hard again we do a 69 for a few minutes, she instructs me how she wants me to lick her, with the tip of my tongue in her clit flicking it up and down and to suck it hard and slow, she cums on my face, and lays down exhausted, we chat a little more, finish the rum and gives me a BBBJ, puts the rubber on then mounts me reverse cowgirl, very passionately, we change to missionary, then doggy, till I pop and my legs feel like rubber, we have been in the room for over 3 hours, we get dressed, and I leave, I told her to comeback tonight at 10 pm so we can session again, total damage 35 K for the room, 30 K for the rum, sodas, cigs and a water for me, and 200 K for Estefany, she was never rushed, total GF experience, and just sweet girl.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2033579]Thanks for the Post.
This made me think, maybe go back and ask her to speak slowly and provide a technical language guide. (with video is she is up for it).
I see there is the abbreviations guide above but, what about a short list of proper Spanish words for acts.
I am just learning and not sure if using the proper words and will be understood.
I am guessing you guys know the acceptable slang in Colombia.
Example:
Kiss. Beso.
BJ. Mamada.
HJ. Trabajo de mano.
Sex. Coito or joder or mierda.[/QUOTE]In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2034472]In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.[/QUOTE]You're visiting Colombia for the first time and are posting what slang they use their? May I make a suggestion? Until you've actually been there don't post information you're not sure about? Coger in Colombia is used in many different ways, and is not necessarily vulgar.
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2034472]In Colombia BJ is chupar verga, soplar verga, chupar mond.
HJ is andar con Manuela (Manuela is female of proper name Manuel which is written similar to manual), descremarse, hacerse una paja.
For sex coger, pichar, echar un polvo and follar are commonly used.
Anal sex is culiar, chiquitear or dar por el chiquito. I am visiting Colombia for the first time next month so I am doing my assignment.[/QUOTE]I agree with Yippiekkiyay, until you've been there. I am no expert on Colombia with only 2 trips to the MDE & 1 to the CTG, but the only one of those I have ever heard of was culiar & that was in Costa Rica. I find a good way to get the local slang is to read the girls ads on Mil eroticos & translate if you have to. That way you can find out what type of service they give & learn how to ask for it. Just my thoughts.
El Mechanico.
Soplar? I doubt that one.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2034652]I agree with Yippiekkiyay, until you've been there. I am no expert on Colombia with only 2 trips to the MDE & 1 to the CTG, but the only one of those I have ever heard of was culiar & that was in Costa Rica. I find a good way to get the local slang is to read the girls ads on Mil eroticos & translate if you have to. That way you can find out what type of service they give & learn how to ask for it. Just my thoughts.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments yippie and Mechanico. The information was provided to me by a couple of Colombian co workers. In fact they are from different Colombian areas and they use different words for the same thing. One of them show me a dictionary of Colombian terms and phrases were I got the information I provided on my post. Maybe culiar is used in areas you have never visited, who knows.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2034659]Soplar? I doubt that one.[/QUOTE]Soplar is an anglicism, soplar is blow in English so don't be surprised about the use of soplar.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2034539]You're visiting Colombia for the first time and are posting what slang they use their? May I make a suggestion? Until you've actually been there don't post information you're not sure about? Coger in Colombia is used in many different ways, and is not necessarily vulgar.[/QUOTE]Believe me, when I post something it is because I am sure about it.
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2034670]Believe me, when I post something it is because I am sure about it.[/QUOTE]I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2034689]I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.[/QUOTE]Cojo un taxi (I grab a cab), or to use the future tense, cogeré (I will / am going to grab a cab). The 'g' changes to a 'j' in the present tense, to retain the same sound. That is necessary because 'g' is not the same sound when followed by an 'o' as it is when followed by an 'e. '.
It's the verb for to grab or to catch in Spain as well, where it has no vulgar connotation. In Cuba, if someone says ¿Quieres coger? They are asking you if you want to throw a baseball around. It means fuck in Argentina, Paraguay, and I think Uruguay as well. In those places, when you want to grab something, you use the verb 'agarrar. '.
Argies make fun of españoles: 'Vamos a coger el autobus' and then the españoles make fun of the argentinos' accent: ¡Zhámeme zha! It's all good, clean fun.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2034689]I'm just going to do this one last time. Coger is not only used in the vulgar sense. It is used often for a lot of things. Even grabbing a taxi. Outside of Colombia, Latinos find it funny when a Colombian uses it that way. Cogero un taxi, for example is something you'll hear in Colombia even though outside of Colombia it means "I will fuck a taxi. ".
But who am I to argue? You're an expert in Colombian slang having never stepped foot in Colombia. Let's hope those co-workers aren't making fun out of you.[/QUOTE]I am puertorican so I speak Spanish and very familiar with informal language on Latin countries. When I travel to Santo Domingo people ask me "are you going to rent a car or call a cab?" Voy a coger un taxi en Santo Domingo is my answer. Then I am going to el colmadon y voy a coger (grab) una cerveza bien FRa de la nevera. Later I am going to fuck (coger, chichar, singar, follar) a girl. Sometimes I like to make people look like a fool (coger de tonto). When I was in college I hated mid term exams (odiaba coger examenes de mitad de semestre). I know the many uses of the word coger.
Can't speak Spanish for shit. Ask any Latin person from countries other than I've mentioned and we all agree. Until y'all can say por que, hamburger, importante vs. Pol que, hambulger, impoltante. Don't teach us Spanish. Your accents sound terrible and your Spanish is horrible!
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2034738]Can't speak Spanish for shit. Ask any Latin person from countries other than I've mentioned and we all agree. Until y'all can say por que, hamburger, importante vs. Pol que, hambulger, impoltante. Don't teach us Spanish. Your accents sound terrible and your Spanish is horrible![/QUOTE]Hi Pepoles, your comment is racist, offensive and derogatory. People from my country have the same opinion you have about us but against people from other latin countries. I call it ignorance. Spanish is a language enriched by the people of any Spanish speaking country. Have a nice day sir.
Yeah, that was uncalled for. I have been to 16 Spanish-speaking countries plus Puerto Rico and they all have their own way of speaking. Yes, in Puerto Rico and Cuba they swallow their esses, and sometimes add an extra ess on the end of the word to make up for the ones they swallow. So postre is potre and sometimes you hear things like 'pusistes.' Other places might roll the 'r' at the end of the word, which is not correct. Sometimes less educated people in Spain say 'cuala.'
Just like in the Yew Ess you might hear 'Where the shitter at?' Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. Pot. Kettle. Etc.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2034753]Yeah, that was uncalled for. I have been to 16 Spanish-speaking countries plus Puerto Rico and they all have their own way of speaking. Yes, in Puerto Rico and Cuba they swallow their esses, and sometimes add an extra ess on the end of the word to make up for the ones they swallow. So postre is potre and sometimes you hear things like 'pusistes.' Other places might roll the 'r' at the end of the word, which is not correct. Sometimes less educated people in Spain say 'cuala.'
Just like in the Yew Ess you might hear 'Where the shitter at?' Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. Pot. Kettle. Etc.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I am going to provide a full report after my trip. I talk a lot with people so I am going to ask about culiar, coger and all other words, LOL.
Hi all,
I'm typing for speed so please excuse a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I can say with no ego that I don't speak Spanish. Yes, it is harder without knowing Spanish in Medellin. But I get by with loose words string together from my limited vocab and some funny desperate arm movements / gestures with a smile. I am also of a skin complexion that can seen from a mile away. I cannot blend in or hide in a crowd and that makes things interesting. All in all, I adjusted my expectations and take things as it is. I'm a budget kind of guy. This isn't everyone's idea of a vacation. I can see why being a baller and spending lots of money can be fun. But I am not that guy. Since my outcome per girl can wildly differ, I keep track of cost per session, cost per hour, and cost per enjoyment for maximum dollar efficiency. Budgeting is how I can afford this vacation anyway, so old habits die hard. My method with chicas is a large number of on hand auditioning, which I promote the winners upward. Large pools are collected from low end casas which is my preference. (at least 4 a day) Slumming it like this isn't everyone's cup of tea. It can be an exhausting method with varying results. For me, the important thing is to find girls with the "it" factor, enjoying them at the lowest cost possible. Attitude, skill, and enthusiasm is really important in my chicas. Last time I found 5 girls with "it" factors and had a busy rotation. Sometimes I find none which can be depressing. It's my second day back in Medellin, and I am happy I found one "it" girl. So when you read this, please adjust your expectations to your own circumstance. Also I'm just a few trips in and not a pro like most of the gents who post reports, so be kind. I got a hotel in the La Mayorista area because I wanted to see what it was like. La Mayorista isn't bad. The plus side is you can get 6, 7 or even 8 level girls easily from down the street. The main action in on a single block which is a lot smaller than centro but feels manageable. Also I haven't been harassed by a beggar once which is really awesome. Less Trans in the mix too. I feel signaficantly safer in Mayorista as long as I don't wonder off from the main area. It is a bit too far from everywhere else (centro, El Poblado) though. The chica ranges from 6 to maximum of 8. No stunners here but there are a number of doable girls around most time of the day. Weekday nights seem to be the better time to partake. On weekends the locals drive up the the demand and the girls aren't as available or abundant. I also assume they travel to other places for clients or just go partying as well. I don't really like SW action too much. The rooms the girls want to bring you to is purely designed to bleed money off of you. Some girls are okay looking with not much skill, then ask for more money or drinks and such. Of course I fee like the girl is getting cut. Overall, the room cost can far exceed the cost of the girl. I heard anywhere from 40 K to 70 K per half an hour for the girl only. The room cost ranged from 15 K to 50 K. I am assuming the wide range is because I am an obvious gringo with no Spanish. The winning move is to bring the girl to your hotel which cut the cost down a lot. Of course you'll have to check with your hotel first, and make sure she has ID on her. However, I have never felt safe doing that yet, especially with unproven girls. I'll have to found an arrangement that works for me.
Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer. But somehow you will find some disturbingly unattractive girls in the mix. You can find 7 to 9's pretty easy with a price from 80 k and up with the onsite room. In my opinion, centro strip clubs are not the place to take too much time with your selection as the cost can rack up even before being with the girl. To start strip-club expects you to buy drinks. (obviously) The other cost is the customary tipping once a girl gets off stage of P1000 to P2000. And this can be the fattest laziest "your eyes are bleeding" kinda dancing with no pole tricks. You can refuse to tip but it's going to be a big hassle after every dance. (every 5 minutes) It is also the case that even the door man keeps asking for tips once they remember your face. My advice, pick the girls quickly and get her number to hopefully arrange a meetup at your hotel later on. The girls also keep really irregular hours with no really schedule, and would suddenly disappear or walk out. So get the girls when you see them quickly. Downtown casas are my favorite. Unfortunately, the girls I cultivated in my previous trips are no longer working in casas. This trip I find the quality of girls to be lacking from the previous trips. So I am starting from square one, auditioning girls hard 5 or 6 times a day. Those casa stairs make my knees ache just by looking at them. Casas so far have ranged from 35 K to 40 K per half an hour, 65 k and up for hour. I recommend collecting cards off the streets as they have interesting promo rates at new or old casas. I have found one "it" girl which I am thanking the almighty for. Need better Cardio and the awesome empanadas aren't helping.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2033849]I have been to MDE a few times but most of my Colombia trips are focused on Cartagena. On my last MDE trip, I spent some time with a family, who I had met previously, and the daughter in the family told me that she and her BF, a paisano, had recently moved from El Poblado to Sabaneta. They both still work in Parque LLeras area and have professional jobs. At the time, I thought Sabaneta was a rural area, outside of MDE, but recently discovered this community actually has light rail connections to central MDE, less expensive long term accommodations, and most important a lively night life on the weekends with many clubs and restaurants located in and around a bustling town plaza. I was under the impression from researching this area that many middle class paisanas also go to the dance clubs and restaurants though no mention of P4 P but, nevertheless, the chance to meet regular girls sounds appealing.
I am wondering if any BM's live or hang out there and can offer opinions about Sabaneta. In addition to the other features I mentioned above, it is said to be less polluted and hectic than central MDE and has a small town feel though with easy access to El Poblado etc.
My only concern about Sabaneta appears to be the weather. On my weather app, it appears that constant rain or chance of rain seems to be a prevalent weather pattern here (for the next ten days) or is the spring time considered rainy season.[/QUOTE]The Family that have "adopted" me has their family base in Sabaneta. The barrio is new, fresh, have all you need. I strongly recommend it. Another place, where this family has is restaurant is arround Estadio Girardot; it's close to Parque Natural, Apartahotel Montes (which is a new hotel with low prices, a lot of business men often open have a beer with their prepagos on the little outside cafe / restaurant, which I never seen before so openly), the new massage place and good old Energy (nowadays overpriced), and a little area called Suramericana where you can rent apartments cheap. Lot's of bars and small restaurants. And you can walk to La 70 in 10 min. Sabaneta feel like the realistic place for an mddle income western guy, for vacation or long-term stays, living permanently. Poblado: It's even more expensive than "at home", especially the malls. And it's far away from everything! So why go there? To met other extranjeros and see your bank account get empty very fast, making the experience a tradgedy. Anyway, despite poverty and violence, Medellin has a vibrant nightlife and dirt cheap taxi, tennis, gym filled with 3/4 nude babes, malls, Juan Valdez, Parque Explora and many many other things. Besides having the best climate in the world (a slighly minus for the height 1500 m above sea level). Sabaneta is well worth a try after some further investigations. Medellin is growing at a fast pace, but it not always turns out well. A part of Bello fell apart 2012, due to building in areas with heavy water pressure coming down into the valley Aburra and are a constant problem, since cheating with the construction-quality has been abundant due to the huge demand after 2002, and the population density is extreme, so we might see new Sabanetas growing up or old poor barrios up on the hills change status. And paisas will always be willing to have sex with extranjeros, it's in their DNA. And being overall good looking this is Paradise Medellin (Old Frank Casio term). Many the same or even better basic conditions exist in Arequipa, Cusco in Peru, but the girl are not hot, it's like they have a different DNA, and nor are they beautiful, and if they are, they become arrogant. Arequipas sexscene is like 1% of Medellin's. (But there shall be a good place under "the old bridge" that I missed, but the girls there -are said to be from- Colombia).
Also look at around a place in Laureles that is called "El Cafetero". It's has a Bodytech gym and Exito and a EPS (health care) center. Further up the avenue there are restaurants, bars etc. Santa Teresita it's called and are coming on strong. If you like the gym, go there before the girls go to work and you will see enough female beauty than you do in a costly night at Parque Lleras.
Many place I know, are shown to me by paisas and paisa-friends. So the language is the key!
Thank you, Jack Sparrow. I actually lived in Cusco for two years, several years ago, and have to agree the woman are not attractive, provincial, and quite conservative as well. The only chance to get laid was perhaps to meet a girl from Lima who might travel there for a short vacation but never could quite pull that off to conclusion. For a time, I was getting laid through a Peruvian guy I met on this board who hooked me up with a young local girl. After a time, she decided to raise her 'price' and I bid her adieu. I used to save my pennies so I could take a discount priced flight to Lima. There aren't even massage places in Cusco that offer he.
A year after I left, a 'mall' opened up in Cusco. It was rather small but had an escalator, the only one in Cusco besides the airport, but they had to station a guard at the bottom to instruct some of the locals how to use this transport mode.
I also spent time in Arequipa. It's a nice pretty town with a generally good climate -- better than Lima. However, the women, though more attractive than their Cusco counterparts, were equally conservative. There is no P4 P that I was aware of though I did go to a massage place that had rooms but found the girls in the end were not worth the effort.
But I appreciate your comments on Sabaneta. It sounds more and more like a nice place. Like you, I also have an adopted family in MDE. In fact, the daughter I mentioned tried to set me up with her Mom. She's an attractive woman for her age but speaks little English and does not fall into the hottie category. The only issue is to keep my wandering eye in neutral when I am with
'mi familia'.
Thanks see. Jack Sparrow. I actually lived in Cusco for two years, several years ago, and have to agree the woman are not attractive, provincial, and quite conservative as well. The only chance to get laid was perhaps to meet a girl from Lima who might travel there for a short vacation but never could quite pull that off to conclusion. For a time, I was getting laid through a Peruvian guy I met on this board who hooked me up with a young local girl. After a time, she decided to raise her 'price' and I bid her adieu. I used to save my pennies so I could take a discount priced flight to Lima. There aren't even massage places in Cusco that offer he.
A year after I left, a 'mall' opened up in Cusco. It was rather small but had an escalator, the only one in Cusco besides the airport, but they had to station a guard at the bottom to instruct some of the locals how to use this transport mode.
I also spent time in Arequipa. It's a nice pretty town with a generally good climate -- better than Lima. However, the women, though more attractive than their Cusco counterparts, were equally conservative. There is no P4 P that I was aware of though I did go to a massage place that had rooms but found the girls in the end were not worth the effort.
But I appreciate your comments on Sabaneta. It sounds more and more like a nice place. Like you, I also have an adopted family in MDE. In fact, the daughter I mentioned tried to set me up with her Mom. She's an attractive woman for her age but speaks little English and does not fall into the hottie category. The only issue is to keep my wandering eye in neutral when I am with.
'mi familia'.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2034753] Or 'y'all' which is not a word of any kind in English. [/QUOTE]Y'all = conjunction (I think, I'm not an English major) for You All. Y'all refers to a group of people instead of the singular you.
"I'll see Y'all later!" is telling a group (more than one) of people that I will see them later. As opposed to "I will see you later!" which could be misunderstood for I will see you later but I will not see the rest of the people in the group later!
Y'all have a good Day!
El Mechanico.
P.S. Why does this software change capital Ys to WHY?
Can anyone recommend an apartment near Parque Lleras? I'm sure someone has given this info already but I can't seem to find it. Last time I stayed in a hotel and had to pay every time I brought a chica over.
Medellin has 16 comunas (districts), 5 corregimientos (townships), and 271 barrios. So for the non-locals when discussing a good neighborhood it would be helpful if you listed some major cross roads or geographical features that would make it easier to find on a map.
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2034968]The Family that have "adopted" me has their family base in Sabaneta. The barrio is new, fresh, have all you need. I strongly recommend it. Another place, where this family has is restaurant is arround Estadio Girardot; it's close to Parque Natural, Apartahotel Montes (which is a new hotel with low prices, a lot of business men often open have a beer with their prepagos on the little outside cafe / restaurant, which I never seen before so openly), the new massage place and good old Energy (nowadays overpriced), and a little area called Suramericana where you can rent apartments cheap. Lot's of bars and small restaurants. And you can walk to La 70 in 10 min. Sabaneta feel like the realistic place for an mddle income western guy, for vacation or long-term stays, living permanently. Poblado: It's even more expensive than "at home", especially the malls. And it's far away from everything! So why go there? To met other extranjeros and see your bank account get empty very fast, making the experience a tradgedy. Anyway, despite poverty and violence, Medellin has a vibrant nightlife and dirt cheap taxi, tennis, gym filled with 3/4 nude babes, malls, Juan Valdez, Parque Explora and many many other things. Besides having the best climate in the world (a slighly minus for the height 1500 m above sea level). Sabaneta is well worth a try after some further investigations. Medellin is growing at a fast pace, but it not always turns out well. A part of Bello fell apart 2012, due to building in areas with heavy water pressure coming down into the valley Aburra and are a constant problem, since cheating with the construction-quality has been abundant due to the huge demand after 2002, and the population density is extreme, so we might see new Sabanetas growing up or old poor barrios up on the hills change status...[/QUOTE]
In English, "you" is both singular and plural, depending on who you are addressing. Some say "you all" is a Southern saying, but people in the North use it also.
30,000 including room is the going rate for SWs near the Museo de Antioquia. If you pay more you are getting ripped off.
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936]Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2035097] Some say "you all" is a Southern saying, but people in the North use it also.[/QUOTE]Yeah, people in the north who grew up in the south.
I spent a week cruising the Centro SW's (not so much streetwalker's as unaffiliated hookers who have a nearby hotel IMO) and I paid 30,000 including the room. I am fluent in Spanish though,. Personally I would be long gone by sundown, even before 5 when the locals show up. Did you cruise more the VeraCruz little white church block (which I liked) or the Raudal corner of Calle 53/ Ave de Greiff & Carrera 54 area? (which I didn't like, seemed more dangerous).
And compared to the Hi-end clubs like Fase II I thought the Centro strip clubs were great and reasonably priced. Are you really bitching about tipping a girl 1,000/2,000 p which is like $.33 to $.66 cents? Take's a while before that adds up to anything. And better then the girls thinking you are a cheap SOB. LOL.
YMMV.
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936]Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..[/QUOTE]
BTW, which Centro strip clubs were you in?
I liked Conejitas the most followed by Barre Ejectiva, didn't care much for Maracaibo or Grille Nueva Avenida (just to the right of Conejitas).
Didn't make it into Bar Occidental or Taberna Victoria.
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936]Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling. I'm sure there are other gringos but not enough that we would run into each other. The girls can range from 5 to a very rare 9. (only one time) Price can range from 30 K to 70 K per half an hour and the room cost from 15 k and up. Again, most of time I'm offered the "gringo with no Spanish pays more" price. (I still negotiate down) A whole lot of girls but doable girls are a smaller percentage. I find the hissing sound they make funny as it matches some of the girls personality, and it is best to stay away. Girls are far more aggressive as well. Beggars and trans are a significantly bigger and constant problem than la mayorista. Again, it's best to pull the girl to your nearby hotel to avoid the crazy room cost per session. I rather pay the girl a little more than pay the room cost per session. All nights have a lot of girls but on weekends the number of girls explode. Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls, whether the girl likes it or not. Safety, an active awareness of your surroundings, techniques to avoid conflict cannot be stressed enough. Stay in the streets where taxi's are easily available. Hide into casinos if you feel being targeted. And you should be long gone before the street food vendors start packing up for the night. The police presence provides a false sense of security. They are not really present to protect gringos and they disappear rather early in the night. The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936]Centro SW scene is bigger grander, a bit more interesting, and quite a bit more dangerous. On previous visits, I strolled the Centro SW area every night, which was not smart. I have never seen another gringo at night which is telling.[/QUOTE]What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936]Unfortunately, drunk locals up the demand (it's their city) and can be really be possessive with the better looking girls[/quote]
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.
[QUOTE=Number43;2034936] The centro Strip clubs are also an option. They also have a small interested of keeping the order so it's safer. But somehow you will find some disturbingly unattractive girls in the mix. You can find 7 to 9's pretty easy with a price from 80 k and up with the onsite room. In my opinion, centro strip clubs are not the place to take too much time with your selection as the cost can rack up even before being with the girl. To start strip-club expects you to buy drinks. (obviously) The other cost is the customary tipping once a girl gets off stage of P1000 to P2000. And this can be the fattest laziest "your eyes are bleeding" kinda dancing with no pole tricks. You can refuse to tip but it's going to be a big hassle after every dance. (every 5 minutes) It is also the case that even the door man keeps asking for tips once they remember your face. My advice, pick the girls quickly and get her number to hopefully arrange a meetup at your hotel later on. The girls also keep really irregular hours with no really schedule, and would suddenly disappear or walk out. So get the girls when you see them quickly. .[/QUOTE]All though I do agree it's painful to tip the real bow-wow's, my avoidance technique involved either a trip to the bathroom or walk out to the front door like I was on a cel call.
Also earlier in the day the stage was empty at least half the time. I mean they are really just brothels masquerading as strip clubs.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2035136]What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.[/QUOTE]All over Centro at night gets more dangerous.
You have to keep your eyes open and your stupidity down.
Be paranoid.
I was there last night, but with a buddy, so much better.
Much easier when you got eachother's back. Also it's harder to mug two guys than one.
I met am old favorite that I incredibly enough had met on the streets of Centro.
Love Motel for a few hours.
I brought her an unexpected refurbed iPhone 5. Looked brand new.
She came unglued with the love, LOL.
The Mayo has taxis there all night long into the wee hours to take you wherever you want to go.
Also hit the Mansion for an employee going-away party. Got invited.
Lots of beautiful Paisas there!!
Some cool guys there, however, funny how the macho high testosterone guys there like to flex their muscles and show their babe off.
Good for them though that they escape from pussy prison for some excitement.
I get it.
Some talk about it, some actually do it.
Travel and enjoy.
This was not such a good ad for the Mansion. I can't say you made me want to check it out.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2035148]All over Centro at night gets more dangerous.
You have to keep your eyes open and your stupidity down.
Be paranoid.
I was there last night, but with a buddy, so much better.
Much easier when you got eachother's back. Also it's harder to mug two guys than one.
I met am old favorite that I incredibly enough had met on the streets of Centro.
Love Motel for a few hours.
I brought her an unexpected refurbed iPhone 5. Looked brand new.
She came unglued with the love, LOL..[/QUOTE]
More than a few girls at Veracruz told me they go home before dark. That was enough to convince me to keep my ass away from there after dark. Good luck.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2035136]What were your late hours like in Centro? Was it only the Veracruz area?
How late did you stay at Mayorista? Were there cabs on the strip ready to take you back home?
Drunks being possessive sounds like a recipe for disaster.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PickCherry12;2035090]Can anyone recommend an apartment near Parque Lleras? I'm sure someone has given this info already but I can't seem to find it. Last time I stayed in a hotel and had to pay every time I brought a chica over.[/QUOTE]Airbnb is full of them. Look for ones without a doorman and / or are run by a business. There's at least two companies that rent out apartments in Colombia and they have a bunch around parque lleras. I hope you like noise, though.
2,000 pesos is the normal tip. I feel better about handing out 2,000 pesos tips to the ugliest women in the strip clubs than I do about paying 2,000 to see a sub standard casa lineup. Of course, 2,000 pesos is meaningless to anyone with the money to travel to Colombia from abroad.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2035142]All though I do agree it's painful to tip the real bow-wow's, my avoidance technique involved either a trip to the bathroom or walk out to the front door like I was on a cel call.
Also earlier in the day the stage was empty at least half the time. I mean they are really just brothels masquerading as strip clubs.[/QUOTE]
Any review sites similar to therroticreview for medellin?
Anyone been with this bombshell?
[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.php[/URL]
I have received much good information from this forum in the past and these reports are my way of contributing back to the source. I am of a novice level. So my report, opinions or so-called advice" should be taken with that in mind. Always trust the posts of the more experience members as they are the reason I can enjoy Medellin right now. Today was a centro and late Mayorista day. Instead of finding new prospects, I spent the afternoon with my first "it" girl. Man that loving was good. The rest of the afternoon was spent recovering from all the running around. After taking care of some errands it was night time at centro. Most of my experiences have been at night so far. I tip my hat to the gentleman who gets 30 K sessions during the day. Remind me there are higher levels in this hobby and I thrive to be there one day. The latest I ever been out was at 3 am and there is no godly reason to do so. It is very dangerous at that hour and no gems are going to stick it out that late ever. I'd say midnight is the lastest you should be at centro and should be fully sober for safety reasons. I walked about the area in front of the white church, behind the church, and the two streets west of the strip clubs where most of the bars with the flashing multi color lights are. The two streets west of the strip club is the main area and it is really sketchy. A lot beggars and drugged up people walking around. The locals were having a good time though. They are not the most classy or well off locals but it is their city and their time to party. I was happy to see them enjoying themselves. Again no gringos in sight. And of course there are the girls. The selection topped off at 7 with a rare few 8's. The area in front and behind the church is even sketchier at night with the hint of grime. The only level 9 girl I ran into was going home early but I got her number though. If you do go to centro at night, please do not go any further than the last bar with the flashing lights in any direction, and never take the dark narrow side streets. I passed by those areas on my taxi ride back and I still wish I can un-see what I saw. It's just really a saddening and dangerous sight. I was quoted 65 k to 85 k with rooms per half an hour. In the end, I didn't find a girl I liked or worth the risk so to speak, and moved on to the strip clubs.
The strip clubs in general staff more beautiful girls with a higher price, and a lot of times the girls set the price. From my previous experience, I agree with the more experience gentleman on this forum that Conejitas and Barre Ejecutiva are my favorite. Those who been to Barre Ejecutiva know the interesting men's bathroom. I partook on a previous trip. Barre Ejecutiva was mildly occupied with some solid selections available (mostly 8's). I had an eye on a slim cutie on stage and to my surprise she did one or two basic pole tricks. I tipped her when she came around but her pissy attitude sucked and I passed. I was quoted from 70 K to 90 K for half an hour from various girls, only staying around 20 minutes. Conetijas was next, which I liked better. If you know Conejitas you know the spiral staircase behind the locker room. They used to ring a really loud and annoying bell multiple times when someone walks in the club. They didn't last night, and I hope they never do again. Contigas was having a good night, just packed around 11 pm. Because it was packed, there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like. I got to only tip the girls which I thought were deserving (at least a nice attitude) and I was much happier than on my previous visits. Oddly, some really solid girls were available. I had 3 quality girls I was interested in and they were all ready to go. As the locals tend to only buy drinks and hang around, a lot of the girls were trying but failing and bored. I took up the hottest girl that I liked on her offer, and luckily it turned out she had a fun attitude. Another "it" girl found. The funny thing is after I took one girl upstairs, a number of girls started to actively proposition me all over. (Must have been a slow night) I was quoted anywhere from 70 K to 90 K for half an hour with room. I recommend fase dose down south closer to el poblado if you want a bigger selection of hot girls. They have a cover and I think it's over 150 K for 45 minutes. But many gringos love it. I had my fun and I left to La mayorista. When I arrived at La mayorista, it was well past midnight. I immediately noticed how much I safer I felt than the streets of centro. As evidence of that I saw two gringos happily doing their thing. I had one session in La mayorista before which didn't work out. So I pressed to find something good this time. A few 7's and 8's were still around. I was offered anywhere from 70 to 90 K for half an hour including the room. Still think I'm getting the gringo with no spanish price. Unfortunately, I didn't feel for any of them and didn't partake. There is potential in La mayorista and I really want to make it work. We'll see what happens. Signing off.
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2035463]Anyone been with this bombshell?
[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Dang, I'd like to see a review of her too.
Also this one:
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I wish *** gad a Colombia section.
Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's OK not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2035659]Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?[/QUOTE]Different stroke for different folks.
The Casa's where they parade the girls by and you have to choose from that feels too much like a canned hunt to me. I had fun cruising the red light zones and hunting down my prey in a dangerous part of town. LOL.
Although really in daylight it didn't seem very dangerous to me, nothing like Kandahar. LOL. At night, yeah, then it gets a lot more dicey and I stuck to the strip clubs.
And a 18 to 20 yo 7 to 8 for $10 is just too good to pass up for me, I do have somewhat of a budget. I kicked myself for not getting one of my VeraCruz girls numbers, she was hot and fun.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2035659]Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rañrely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.[/QUOTE]Although it's not my bread and butter, Centro can be fun as a change of pace. You definitely have to watch your ass, but there are gems to be found. I think the searching and the danger may actually add a thrill for some hobbyists.
Agree on the tipping to strippers. I look at it as part of hanging out in the club. Even if the chica is ugly, I still smile and give her 2 mil pesos.
[QUOTE=Number43;2035488] If you know Conejitas you know the spiral staircase behind the locker room. They used to ring a really loud and annoying bell multiple times when someone walks in the club. They didn't last night, and I hope they never do again.[/QUOTE]Great reports. At Conejita's I like to go in and press the button myself before the door guy can do it. I also press it on the way out.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2035659]Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go?[/QUOTE]No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.
P.S. Any idea why this custom-made sign inside of the locker room in a hooker den in Brazil is in English and not Portuguese? Hint: Because Brazilians fucking know better! So there is no need to even suggest it in the local language. In that place even the cashiers ask foreigners for tips when they cash them out. Didn't used to be that way though.
[QUOTE=Combo;2035672]Although it's not my bread and butter, Centro can be fun as a change of pace. You definitely have to watch your ass, but there are gems to be found. I think the searching and the danger may actually add a thrill for some hobbyists.
Agree on the tipping to strippers. I look at it as part of hanging out in the club. Even if the chica is ugly, I still smile and give her 2 mil pesos.[/QUOTE]Agree with everything you said here. I tip them all. A 1 k or 2 k tip isn't going to throw off the economics and helps make up for the cheap guys who don't tip at all. I also go to the centro for the thrill a bit. It's kind of fun looking for a gem and if you find one you can usually have a session back at your place for round 2. It's also much easier when you're done, you just pay and leave! I've had more than a few times in the past where I wanted a chic to leave my condo so I could sleep / work / fuck another girl and she wouldn't or would drag her feet. It sucked!
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2035448]Any review sites similar to therroticreview for medellin?[/QUOTE]Yes, here: [URL]http://catadordeprepagosmedallo.com/[/URL].
In spanish and simple ;)
[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2035463]Anyone been with this bombshell?
[URL]http://www.paisasdivinas.com/sara/sara-prepago-universitaria.php[/URL][/QUOTE]I don't see any contact info in the ads on paisasdivnas?
How do you get ahold of them?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2035678]No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.
P.S. Any idea why this custom-made sign inside of the locker room in a hooker den in Brazil is in English and not Portuguese? Hint: Because Brazilians fucking know better! So there is no need to even suggest it in the local language. In that place even the cashiers ask foreigners for tips when they cash them out. Didn't used to be that way though.[/QUOTE]You bring up an interesting point. Colombia, like many parts of the World, doesn't have much of a tipping culture. To the dismay of many, when us Norte Americanos show up en mass, the dynamics can and do change.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2035688]Agree with everything you said here. I tip them all. A 1 k or 2 k tip isn't going to throw off the economics and helps make up for the cheap guys who don't tip at all. I also go to the centro for the thrill a bit. It's kind of fun looking for a gem and if you find one you can usually have a session back at your place for round 2. It's also much easier when you're done, you just pay and leave! I've had more than a few times in the past where I wanted a chic to leave my condo so I could sleep / work / fuck another girl and she wouldn't or would drag her feet. It sucked![/QUOTE]That's why I never understood why guys up-front offer a girl double the money to commit to all night. If you do short-time and get along well with her, I've found that frequently she'll be happy to stay with you the rest of the night for no extra fee. Of course, you may not get on well with her (maybe her pussy stinks), and you'll want her to leave! In which case you'll regret committing to TLN.
You are no longer a novice.
[QUOTE=Number43;2035484]I have received much good information from this forum in the past and these reports are my way of contributing back to the source. I am of a novice level. So my report, opinions or so-called advice" should be taken with that in mind. Always trust the posts of the more experience members as they are the reason I can enjoy Medellin right now. Today was a centro and late Mayorista day. Instead of finding new prospects, I spent the afternoon with my first "it" girl. Man that loving was good. The rest of the afternoon was spent recovering from all the running around. After taking care of some errands it was night time at centro. Most of my experiences have been at night so far. I tip my hat to the gentleman who gets 30 K sessions during the day. Remind me there are higher levels in this hobby and I thrive to be there one day. The latest I ever been out was at 3 am and there is no godly reason to do so. It is very dangerous at that hour and no gems are going to stick it out that late ever. I'd say midnight is the lastest you should be at centro and should be fully sober for safety reasons. I walked about the area in front of the white church, behind the church, and the two streets west of the strip clubs where most of the bars with the flashing multi color lights are. The two streets west of the strip club is the main area and it is really sketchy. A lot beggars and drugged up people walking around. The locals were having a good time though. They are not the most classy or well off locals but it is their city and their time to party. I was happy to see them enjoying themselves. Again no gringos in sight. And of course there are the girls. The selection topped off at 7 with a rare few 8's. The area in front and behind the church is even sketchier at night with the hint of grime. The only level 9 girl I ran into was going home early but I got her number though. If you do go to centro at night, please do not go any further than the last bar with the flashing lights in any direction, and never take the dark narrow side streets. I passed by those areas on my taxi ride back and I still wish I can un-see what I saw. It's just really a saddening and dangerous sight. I was quoted 65 k to 85 k with rooms per half an hour. In the end, I didn't find a girl I liked or worth the risk so to speak, and moved on to the strip clubs.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your comments about tipping. I think you speak very authoritatively about a place you say you visited just once.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2035659]Wow, I can't believe that somebody would make a big deal out of tipping less than $1 to a girl who gets up on stage. And this cheap charlie thinks it's ok not to tip. F'and A. Whether you think the chica is hot or not, or whether you liked her dancing ability, but she just got up on stage and danced. In my opinion, she deserves a tip. Seriously, if you don't agree, why do you even go? You must expect them to dance for free since I don't think they get paid anything other than the tips, drinks, and sessions.
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2036065]I agree with your comments about tipping. I think you speak very authoritatively about a place you say you visited just once.[/QUOTE]Once was more than enough to realize what it is and what it isn't.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2035678]No idea. Why do the locals go? Maybe you need to go school those el cheapo Colombianos on what the dancers deserve from them. As Number43 stated, "there was no pressure to tip dancers as half the locals refused to tip girls they didn't like." It's called a gratuity, not an obligation. One foreigner in the place and he should shoulder the burden for what end? If the locals do not feel the need to do it then why would you? Everyone seems to want to dress like locals, walk like locals, and do other shit like locals; but when it comes down to pussy, fuck what the locals do because the gringo knows better than them. One more gringo heading down to fuck things up the same as the back home he is trying to get away from. Move over Rio, Sosua, and Cartagena.[/QUOTE]I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2036037]I don't see any contact info in the ads on paisasdivnas?
How do you get ahold of them?[/QUOTE]That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panamá.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036183]That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panam.[/QUOTE]I took it to mean she's left the game either temporarily or for good.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2036116]I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".[/QUOTE]Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.
Well said.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2036250]Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2036250]The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?[/QUOTE]I agree with that. I guess it is all perspective. It seems that Queens looks at it as dancing is the main attraction and is how the girls make their living. I look at it as the girls get to dance in order to advertise, hoping someone will choose to pay to fuck them later.
Hell in the brothels in Santo Domingo the girls come give you a lap dance and rub your hands all over their private parts one after another but money does not enter that equation. They do all of that shit to entice you to go to the room where they earn their money.
Another point against tipping in the Colombian brothel/strip clubs is that it is like pulling teeth trying to get the waiters to change your larger bills for 2000 peso bills. Many restaurants and the like that you go to, you can guage whether you are supposed to tip or not by the change you are given when you pay your bill. If your bill is 40 and you give 100 and your change is 3 20s, that tells you that it is not expected for a tip to be given.
I really don't get it.
This isn't about the p4 p chicas. That I understand. They all have a novio. Some of the novios know and some don't.
The non-prepagos are what's puzzling me. One chica I know keeps referring to her boyfriend as "mi hermano" even though they sleep in the same bed and have sexy photos up together on her fb page. Even a Colombian guy I know keeps referring to his girlfriend as his sister even though his fb page is again full of sexy poses with her. And they're not using it as slang I tell you. They really want to make sure I think that their significant other is their sibling. I haven't tried to fuck any of these people so I don't get the point.
What the fuck?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2036250]Why sweat it either way? When I was a strip club regular in the US, I usually tipped $1 to most of the dancers, but declined when they came around looking for more. I found it annoying that many guys weren't even tipping the waitress a quarter for their $3. 75 beer.
However, at least in those clubs at that time, tips and lapdances were the only things the dancers got paid for. The clubs here are brothels with a dance floor. How many are actually dancing well enough to make you want to tip?
If you feel like tipping, tip. The world won't end because you tipped a dozen 2 k notes. If you don't feel like tipping, don't. You won't be the first and you won't be the last.[/QUOTE]Right on brotha!
Why sweat it? LOL.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2036321]I really don't get it.
This isn't about the p4 p chicas. That I understand. They all have a novio. Some of the novios know and some don't.
The non-prepagos are what's puzzling me. One chica I know keeps referring to her boyfriend as "mi hermano" even though they sleep in the same bed and have sexy photos up together on her fb page. Even a Colombian guy I know keeps referring to his girlfriend as his sister even though his fb page is again full of sexy poses with her. And they're not using it as slang I tell you. They really want to make sure I think that their significant other is their sibling. I haven't tried to fuck any of these people so I don't get the point.
What the fuck?[/QUOTE]Is it any different than US girls who are sleeping with their "just a friend?
If she admits to having a novio, then she's taking herself off the market. If she admits to sleeping with her friends she's a puta. Remember, she may have family and friends who see her fb. Telling them she has a novio limits what she can do, or exposes her to criticism.
Every day one of my neighbors tells me "hasta luego" when they get off the elevator. Are they lying because they have no plans to see me later? It's a Colombian way of being polite.
What does it really matter? They are either going to come play with you, or not. Unless you're planning on marrying one and taking her back home, whether she has a boyfriend doesn't matter.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2035659]
Regarding Centro and Mayorista. Those are not places for gringos to be. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You will rarely find a gringo that isn't counting every peso. If you can afford a trip to Colombia, do you really want to look through a sea of 4-5's to find the occasional 7 while putting yourself in harm's way?
I have gone once on my first trip just to see what it was like but haven't been since and don't plan on ever going again, unless maybe some newbie asks me to show it to him once.[/QUOTE]Speak for yourslf amigo.
Centro or Mayorista may not be for you, however, for others, yes.
Really, I've done the high and low in Medellin, for many years.
Met some babes in the high end of course, however, the true gems, the most humble beauties, I've met either on the streets or in the Centro clubs.
Takes some filtering, definitely spanish skills, however, I enjoy it.
My 2 favoritas now in Medellin are a beautiful 18 year old flaquita I met in Centro a month or so ago, and this past trip I met a beautiful sexy chocolate from the pacific coast in one of the Centro clubs.
Both total GFE plus. I "pay" them whatever I feel like as well, and because they take care of me, I return the favor to them.
Take precautions, don't be stupid, keep your eyes open and you'll be fine.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2035159]This was not such a good ad for the Mansion. I can't say you made me want to check it out.[/QUOTE]Wasn't trying to advertise for the Mansion, they stay full constantly anyway, just an observation.
Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036371]Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.[/QUOTE]I expect most here who aren't in Mensa would do better with "monolingual".
YMMV.
I just posted this to the CTG Reports but I'll put it here as well & most of you already know this.
Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals. Note to self, carry as little cash as possible, use the F-in Schwab card at the ATMs!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2036414]I just posted this to the CTG Reports but I'll put it here as well & most of you already know this.
Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals. Note to self, carry as little cash as possible, use the F-in Schwab card at the ATMs!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]If I had a dollar for every time I posted about that, I'd have about 50,000 COP. You get the average of the bid and the ask for the day. I like E-Trade a little better because the transaction posts immediately, whereas with Schwab it posts the next business day. Both reimburse all ATM fees worldwide (but not foreign [b]transaction[/b] fees such as are charged in Panamá).
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036420]If I had a dollar for every time I posted about that, I'd have about 50,000 COP. You get the average of the bid and the ask for the day. I like E-Trade a little better because the transaction posts immediately, whereas with Schwab it posts the next business day. Both reimburse all ATM fees worldwide (but not foreign [b]transaction[/b] fees such as are charged in Panam).[/QUOTE]I know, sorry to repeat. Beating a dead horse, I know. I was posting because I didn't realize there was such a difference. I knew the ATMs were a better rate, but I didn't realize it was that much of a difference.
Also, schwab has never charged me ATM fees (like you said) nor have they ever charged me foreign transaction fees.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2036434]Also, schwab has never charged me ATM fees (like you said) nor have they ever charged me foreign transaction fees.[/QUOTE]The ATM fee would not be from Schwab. It would be rolled into the money that you withdrew and charged by the bank whose machine you used. Mine is always refunded around the 27th of each month. I have only had foreign transaction fees from making purchases with credit cards and never from using an ATM with a debit card.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036371]Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Mayorista, some excellent, cheap food on the third level of Centro Comercial Mayorista. Spent 11 k for soup, salad, plus meat, rice, potato, yuca, avocado, juice and an arepa. Several places to choose from.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036371]Centro and Mayorista aren't for rookies, nose pickers, or monoglots. Mayorista is a lot safer than centro, though. Although, anyone who does not know what 'mayorista' means might have a hard time figuring out what its main purpose is.[/QUOTE]1) I guess there is a number of people, over the thousands who read your post today, who are trying to imagine how a "monoglot" looks like (must be something near a Monolophosaurus?
2) [I]Mayor[/I]ista... ?? It must be where [I]menores[/I] are not allowed?
[QUOTE=Queens35;2036116]I'll call BS on the "half the locals didn't tip". I have been to centro strip clubs a dozen times at least, and never have I seen more than a couple locals not tipping, and they didn't tip any girl, not just the "ugly" ones. Probably cheap charlies who expect to see pussy up close for the price of a beer they nurse for 4 hours. They exist everywhere.
And I'm not advocating throwing tips around to anybody with a hand out, but when it's deserved. I would never tip a bouncer at these places, which some guys do (because he let you in or because he calls you his amigo? LOL) but a chica who gets naked on stage deserves it.
Honestly, the only guys that I hear the "act like locals. " mantra from are guys who always follow that up with "locals don't tip".[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you. Unfortunately there are guys who get a bang out of grabbing as much as possible for as little as possible. These same scumbags complain about others messing things up for them. How ironic!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2036442]The ATM fee would not be from Schwab. It would be rolled into the money that you withdrew and charged by the bank whose machine you used. Mine is always refunded around the 27th of each month. I have only had foreign transaction fees from making purchases with credit cards and never from using an ATM with a debit card.[/QUOTE]Excellent point about the FTFs on CC purchases and not ATM withdrawals! However with those exchange rates, if the bank who owned the ATM did take a cut, I say Let them Have it! Those rates were 200 - 400 COP better than the Casa de cambios!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2036473]Excellent point about the FTFs on CC purchases and not ATM withdrawals! However with those exchange rates, if the bank who owned the ATM did take a cut, I say Let them Have it! Those rates were 200 - 400 COP better than the Casa de cambios!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was Davivienda.
EDIT: The way I save the most in this mess is by always using my credit card where I can (and always picking pesos when it prompts for which currency avoiding the dreaded 3.5% fee). I then only use cash for the casino, hookers, and small stuff :)
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2036183]That ad says she is on vacation, so that is why there is no contact info. 'On vacation' most likely means getting fucked to death in Curacao or Panam.[/QUOTE]Curacao? I keep hearing about this place.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2036476]I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was Davivienda.
EDIT: The way I save the most in this mess is by always using my credit card where I can (and always picking pesos when it prompts for which currency avoiding the dreaded 3.5% fee). I then only use cash for the casino, hookers, and small stuff :)[/QUOTE]Until your card gets cloned. At least using an ATM you can check it for the skimming equipment, if you use your card in restaurants it is only a matter of time before your card is cloned, cloning is rampant in Colombia. Use a no fee debit card from Schwab or one of the other banks at ATM's.
Had several great experiences with a beautiful Black / Hispanic sweetheart who works the 1 PM to 8 PM shift.
[QUOTE=Manizales911;2036527]Until your card gets cloned. At least using an ATM you can check it for the skimming equipment, if you use your card in restaurants it is only a matter of time before your card is cloned, cloning is rampant in Colombia. Use a no fee debit card from Schwab or one of the other banks at ATM's.[/QUOTE]Who cares? I call my bank, they cancel the card, remove the fraudulent charges and send me a new card. All four of my credit cards have chips on them as well and cannot be used over the phone in Latin America. But more to the point, who cares? I won't be responsible for any of the fraudulent charges.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2036476]I think you are thinking about it in the wrong way. Those cambio casas are offering shitty rates that are far below market rates. In any case, Bancolombia was not charging additional fees. Banco de Bogota was. So was Davivienda[/QUOTE]I have never been charged an extra fee for using Davivienda's ATM's. Used one last week. Banco de Bogota started adding the additional fees within the last year. I don't use them any more. Bancolombia is the primary ATM's I use, now that they are accepting the Schwab card. I've noticed Bancolombia and Davivienda give very similar exchange rates at their ATM's. Contrary to what I've seen posted in the past, the card issuing bank does not determine the exchange rate. I've received different rates from different banks' ATM's when the transactions were less than an hour apart. I've also noticed the rates stay the same throughout the day (tied to the previous day's published exchange rate). I think the rates at the ATM's are updated in the evening, around 9 pm. By watching the published exchange rate, I was able to time the withdrawals to get the best rates. For 12 days ending Monday, I averaged 2954/$1.
Just to reaffirm what YippieKayay said about the cambio casas, the last time I checked their rates, I could make a profit by withdrawing COP from an ATM and then exchanging it for dollars at the cambio's. ATM's with a card like Schwab is the way to go, IMO.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2036414]Just a heads up here guys, when in the CTG last week I brought mostly cash & exchanged at an exchange house near Torre Centaurio in Laguito & got 2700:1. In El Centro I got 2750:1. I just checked my Schwab statement & got 3153:1 on a 200,000 COP withdrawal & 2965:1 on 2 seperate 300,000 COP withdrawals.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, what bank ATM did you get 3153/$1?
What estratos are these municipalities?
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2036738]What estratos are these municipalities?[/QUOTE]I venture to guess that both Bello and Itagui are 2 and Sabanetta is a range of 2-4.
TTM.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2036738]What estratos are these municipalities?[/QUOTE]Bello, mostly Estrato 2 to 4, average over 3 (more 3 and 4 areas than 1 and 2).
Itagui, Estrato 1 to 4, average 3 or a little less.
Sabaneta, Estrato 2 to 4, average 3.
This is from a quick sampling of apartments for rent in the 3 areas. Most immobilarias list the estrato where the property is located.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2036706]I'm curious, what bank ATM did you get 3153/$1?[/QUOTE]I don't remember, sorry. The ATM receipt has BBVA at the top of it tho. I taped the receipt to the Schwab statement with the transaction I am referring to indicated by the arrow. I hope this helps.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Sargent50;2036523]Curacao? I keep hearing about this place.[/QUOTE]It's just off the coast of Venezuela, next to the island of Aruba.
Curaçao, a Dutch Caribbean island, is known for its beaches tucked into coves and its expansive coral reefs rich with marine life. The capital, Willemstad, has pastel-colored colonial architecture, floating Queen Emma Bridge and the sand-floored, 17th-century Mikvé Israel-Emanuel Synagogue. It's also a gateway to western beaches like Blue Bay, a popular diving site.
I use this when at the Hotel Botero.
6 Strip clubs underlined in light blue.
10 Casa's in light purple- some with hours of operation.
SW Red light blocks in red.
3 Centro love motels also listed (Spazios, Eros, Hawaiian).
& the address's to Energy & Fase II with hours of operation.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2036738]What estratos are these municipalities?[/QUOTE]"To understand Colombia and its people you need to understand the government stratum system. In speaking people use the word estrato as in "he lives in estrato 4. " To my knowledge Colombia is the only country to have it as law. In the opinion of many the scheme has evolved to deciding how a person is viewed and what opportunities are available to them as well as giving the wealthy an upper-hand.
The plan started in the late 1980's for Bogotá. In 1994 a law specifically noted how areas or neighborhoods throughout the country should be classified in the stratum.
The stratums run from 1 to 6.
Stratum 1: Lowest class.
Stratum 2: Low-middle class.
Stratum 3: Middle class.
Stratum 4: Upper middle class.
Stratum 5: Upper class.
Stratum 6: Wealthy.
The idea is those in the higher stratum help pay for the services (water, electricity, gas) of those in the lower stratums.
An example would be that an estrato 6 home may pay $175 USD on their water bill while estrato 3, using the same amount of water, will have a bill for $100. Those in 1 and 2 will pay even less."
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2036774]I don't remember, sorry. The ATM reciept has BBVA at the top of it tho. I taped the reciept to the Schwab statement with the transaction I am referring to indicated by the arrow. I hope this helps.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I will try a BBVA ATM during my next trip. You received 18,800 extra on a $100 equivalent withdrawal. I usually withdraw around $2,000 in COP during a trip. That extra would amount to two dates with the ladies at my apartment.
Where can I find this information myself?
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2036839]Where can I find this information myself?[/QUOTE]There are several immobilaria (real estate) websites. I use an app called Finca Raiz.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2036813]The idea is those in the higher stratum help pay for the services (water, electricity, gas) of those in the lower stratums.
An example would be that an estrato 6 home may pay $175 USD on their water bill while estrato 3, using the same amount of water, will have a bill for $100. Those in 1 and 2 will pay even less."[/QUOTE]Excellent post! Hilary, Bernie & Osama would approve of this Socio-economic mechanism!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2037096]Evcellent post! Hilary, Bernie & Osama would approve of this Socio-economic mechanism!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Although his numbers are high, Wolf662 is correct. Currently paying $50 per month for combined electric, gas, water, sewage and trash in an estrato 6 3 br. The health insurance is scaled in a similar way, although there are only 3 price tiers based on income.
Except for internet, utilities are pretty cheap. Internet is reasonable unless you need high speed.
When a listing says "extra people no charge" does that mean visitor friendly? I only found one place that explicitly says visitor friendly. The problem is that it's right in laureles and the windows aren't soundproof.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2037209]When a listing says "extra people no charge" does that mean visitor friendly? I only found one place that explicitly says visitor friendly. The problem is that it's right in laureles and the windows aren't soundproof.[/QUOTE]You need to ask unless it says no doorman. The extra people charge is for people registered there. Like I said, in El Poblado there are tons of apartments which are chica friendly. Just ask if you are allowed to bring dates back to the apartment. You'll either get a 'no' or a 'yes. '.
EDIT: I see JjBee62 posted the same :)
BTW, the default answer should be 'yes.' The problem is there are people going to Medellin and staying up all night with loud music banging away at hookers. So it may help to let the host know you won't be partying late at night with loud music.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2037209]When a listing says "extra people no charge" does that mean visitor friendly? I only found one place that explicitly says visitor friendly. The problem is that it's right in laureles and the windows aren't soundproof.[/QUOTE]The only way you'll be certain a place is visitor friendly is to either use a place that one of the frequent visitors uses, or to specifically ask the host "I expect to have several visitors, and maybe an overnight guest. Is that okay?
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[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2037209]When a listing says "extra people no charge" does that mean visitor friendly? I only found one place that explicitly says visitor friendly. The problem is that it's right in laureles and the windows aren't soundproof.[/QUOTE]This is a list of the Airbnb apartments I have rented over the last year. And I never had a problem with any of them. Or any other Airbnb apartment over the years.
But I don't pick up street walkers, I don't have parties or play loud music late at night. I don't share my place with other mongers. I don't do short time. All the women I have over spend the night and since I have a rotation of 3 to 4 women I sleep with 80 percent of the time. There are only a handful of nights out of the month that I might have new girl spend the night.
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It's not so unusual. It's better organized and more transparent than government aid programs (yes, it's a government aid program) in other countries. For example, in Europe and North America social programs such as supplemental nutrition for children, graduated fees for health care, "Section 8" housing assistance, etc. Are based on household income. It's just another version of the same thing.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2036813]"To understand Colombia and its people you need to understand the government stratum system. In speaking people use the word estrato as in "he lives in estrato 4. " To my knowledge Colombia is the only country to have it as law. In the opinion of many the scheme has evolved to deciding how a person is viewed and what opportunities are available to them as well as giving the wealthy an upper-hand.
The plan started in the late 1980's for Bogot. In 1994 a law specifically noted how areas or neighborhoods throughout the country should be classified in the stratum.[/QUOTE]
Great pocket phone-sized map Wolf posted. .
Unfortunately ISG doesn't have the bandwidth for high res. Here's one I used last year for what I call the casa quick circuit (as they're all an easy walk from each other). Are these all still open? I've consistently found them pretty good value.
It's good to have two or three maps if you are new to the area. With a few googlemaps screencaps you can locate your way quickly. There's a kmz file too but jpgs travel well.
Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Jan156;2037284]Great pocket phone-sized map Wolf posted. .
Unfortunately ISG doesn't have the bandwidth for high res. Here's one I used last year for what I call the casa quick circuit (as they're all an easy walk from each other). Are these all still open? I've consistently found them pretty good value.
It's good to have two or three maps if you are new to the area. With a few googlemaps screencaps you can locate your way quickly. There's a kmz file too but jpgs travel well.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yeah my original map is 1.3 megs. They downgraded that to 87 kb. LOL. That's why it's so grainy.
I am interested to know your airbnb place. Thanks you.
[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2021302]Just returned from Medellin. Beautiful city and beautiful women.
We had a nice airbnb around Calle 10 a that I'd highly recommend (you can pm me for info on that) and both brought girls back for a decent price (their 200 k asking price dropped quickly with negotiation).
Overall a good trip.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know if Medellin have skyn brand condoms or similar non latex condoms? I normally would bring some but unfortunately can't this trip. If so what's the name of the brand and where can I get them? Thanks.
Is it worth the trip? Nice view? Any food / souvenirs vendors?
It's the A line to the K line to the L line, right?
Once you get off the regular subway do the metro cable cars feel safe crime-wise?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2037926]Is it worth the trip? Nice view? Any food / souvenirs vendors?
It's the A line to the K line to the L line, right?
Once you get off the regular subway do the metro cable cars feel safe crime-wise?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's worth the trip. Monday is closed and Tuesdays before major holidays is also closed for maintenance. There are few souvenirs and food is available. Looked safe to me. Since you are in good shape, you can take longer walks there, and don't forget about elevation.
I would say its worth it. Something to do and a nice view of the city.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2037926]Is it worth the trip? Nice view? Any food / souvenirs vendors?
It's the A line to the K line to the L line, right?
Once you get off the regular subway do the metro cable cars feel safe crime-wise?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have done the trip and it is well worth it. I can't recall the lines I took, but it's on the metro map. You do have to get off the train and take one of the Metrocables to Santo Domingo at the terminus of Line K. You pay another fee to catch this metrocable to the park. The ride up is worth the price, as it is rather long and you get a nice view as you ascend up the mountain and over its crest. There are minimal facilities up at the top, and I don't recall any souvenirs of note. I think there is a restaurant nearby and I saw a food stand on the side on the road, going down the hill.
Note, If you take a girl with you and you are in the car alone you will have enough time, maybe 20 minutes for a quickie. I tried to do that on way back with the Canadian tourist woman I met, but a Chinese tourist popped into our car at the last minute as we departed and we rode back down in silence. Prior to that, a young, local couple declined to share the ride down with us, possibly hoping to get a car alone and do the same thing I had in mind.
Not to incite any fear, but I would be reluctant to wander around the Santo Domingo stop. I read an account of tourists being robbed while exploring the very poor neighborhood. We stopped and got some slices of fruit from a street vendor near the Santo Domingo stop, but didn't stray far. We stood out like sore thumbs in an impoverished area. After that, we went back to La 70. I told Miss Canada I needed to take a nap because I didn't sleep well the previous night, and we could meet up later in the evening. I pretended to head back to my hotel, but actually, I went to Centro to check out the street action at dusk.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2037926]Is it worth the trip? Nice view? Any food / souvenirs vendors?
It's the A line to the K line to the L line, right?
Once you get off the regular subway do the metro cable cars feel safe crime-wise?[/QUOTE]Yes to all of the above. There is also a Medellin Metro app that is quite useful.
I was in Medellín a week ago and here is my report (I am fluent in Spanish so all of my communications were done on Whatsapp):
Friday morning I arranged for a session with Mileidy at her apartment (northwest of Laureles). [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-bella-complaciente/6489471/[/URL].
The photos are accurate and recent. Very much the kind of woman I was looking for with all of the services I wanted (anal in particular). 150 K todo incluido for an hour was the price. She was fun, but not quite GFE and no french kissing. The apartment smelled a bit of weed, but was actually probably the nicest of the places I visited. My only complaint was that I was "too large" for anal so that left me a bit unsatisfied. Otherwise though I would recommend her.
That afternoon / evening I went to New Life and had a 45 minute session with a woman who I thought of as a more typical Paisa: fair skinned, dark hair, beautiful tits and slender. When we got to the room I realized the tits were fake (no big deal, they looked great) and she had had a see-section or two. Her stomach had been hidden quite nicely in her outfit. I asked about anal and she said yes. But after we got going that yes turned to no because I was "too big. " This was the 2nd time in my life I was told I was too big. I can assure you, I am in no way large enough to consider a career in porn, despite how much I wish I could. I want to say that the woman's name was Melany, but I am not sure. Decent session except for the lack of her gorgeous ass. Also, she had braces. I asked about her kids at the end and she said they were 6 and 12.
Saturday morning I had been eyeing another Melany: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/una-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-descomplicada-tierna-y-pervertida-que-esta-segura-de-que-es-tu-mejor-opcion-id-9przn[/URL].
130 k + 50 k for anal. She is also known as Isabella Vahos: [URL]http://paraisopaisa.com/isabella-2/[/URL].
I am not convinced she is the girl from the photos due to the tattoos she had. Not a ton, but a few. Her body is very similar to the photos, I just felt there was something different (might have been the hair which was a little wavy). Nice natural tits and a nice flat stomach (but no abs).
The hour with her was nothing special. She also had a pretty foul smell down south. I asked about anal and she seemed to imply it was not a good time. I was not about to push the issue. She is young and definitely has some potential based on her attitude, just needs to take better care of herself. The house she was in appears to have a few girls working there, but I didn't see any others.
In the evening I arranged a session with Sofia: [URL]http://paraisopaisa.com/sofia/[/URL].
She has a gorgeous face, is slender, but again there is the baby flab which has not gone away. My guess is that the photos are from a couple years ago. Petite with large breasts. She was fun, and kind and more of a GFE. I would recommend her. She is in Laureles and very convenient for where I was staying.
Sunday, Mother's day. I went to Guatape and el Peñol figuring the action would be non-existent. I did send Whatsapp messages to about 20 girls and a few did respond (the Venezolanas who don't have family seem like the best bet). A couple of my top picks told me they were available during the morning, but that didn't work for me. In the evening after I got back I continued with the messaging and had a couple leads but none seemed worth it.
All told, I had the 4 and then left for Cali on Monday.
Thanks, nice report, I have been looking at 2 of those girls too. Nice to have a review of them.
[QUOTE=CubanFun;2038418]I was in Medelln a week ago and here is my report (I am fluent in Spanish so all of my communications were done on Whatsapp):
Friday morning I arranged for a session with Mileidy at her apartment (northwest of Laureles). [URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/morena-bella-complaciente/6489471/[/URL].
The photos are accurate and recent. Very much the kind of woman I was looking for with all of the services I wanted (anal in particular). 150 K todo incluido for an hour was the price. She was fun, but not quite GFE and no french kissing. The apartment smelled a bit of weed, but was actually probably the nicest of the places I visited. My only complaint was that I was "too large" for anal so that left me a bit unsatisfied. Otherwise though I would recommend her.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://colombiareports.com/agc-preparing-terrorist-attacks-colombias-biggest-cities/[/URL]
'AGC preparing terrorist attacks in Colombia's biggest cities'.
"Colombia's largest illegal armed group, the AGC, A. K. A. "LOS Urabeños," is planning terrorist attacks in Colombia's largest cities Bogota and Medellin, according to an internal police memo leaked to Blu Radio.
According to the internal warning that was reportedly sent out on Tuesday, the group called the "Gulf Clan" by the authorities, would be planning car bomb attacks in Bogota and Medellin amid an apparent escalation of paramilitary violence that has been targeting civilians and security forces alike.
According to the memo, the alleged planned terrorism campaign would be coordinated by "Gavila," one of the members of the group's central command that is led by former AUC mid-level commander "Otoniel."
The AGC, also Colombia's largest drug trafficking organization, has been requesting inclusion in a peace process with the Marxist FARC guerrilla group, the paramilitaries' traditional enemies."
I fly back to Medellin in 10 days. Cars bombs not on my list of things to do.
Hello,
I could see from many earlier post, El Poblado, seems to be the recommended location to stay.
My aim is to check all action in Medellin, and I speak only English. Is that the place I should look for accommodation?
Planned dates are from 14th June to 22nd June.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Mike963;2039043]Hello,
I could see from many earlier post, El Poblado, seems to be the recommended location to stay.
My aim is to check all action in Medellin, and I speak only English. Is that the place I should look for accommodation?
Planned dates are from 14th June to 22nd June.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]You're going to check all the action in Medellin in 8 days and you only speak English? I admire your optimism. You're going to need to hit 11 or 12 different casas, massages and clubs each day, work in 15 to 20 escorts and street walkers each day and find time for another 10 or so from the various ads and social media options.
With that schedule it doesn't matter where you stay because you have no time to sleep, shower or eat.
However, if you come up with a better plan, Poblado is probably the best place to stay. At least you will probably be safe there and should be able to find people speaking English.
Your best option is to stay at the Mansion. Barring that, do lots and lots of research and start studying Spanish.
[QUOTE=Mike963;2039043]Hello,
I could see from many earlier post, El Poblado, seems to be the recommended location to stay.
My aim is to check all action in Medellin, and I speak only English. Is that the place I should look for accommodation?
Planned dates are from 14th June to 22nd June.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]This is where you should book. [URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL].
They invite women over daily (4-8 daily) to hang out on the property. There is an outdoor pool area where they hang out during the day and then in the indoor bar after dark. The price is pretty much set at 150,000 pesos (52). Some will ask for 200 k ( 70). This is for a short-time session. If you want a woman stay all night, it'll be 300,000-400,000.
You won't need Spanish as the staff speaks English. The women don't, but you don't need to speak Spanish to have a good time there, or anywhere in Colombia for that matter. You can use google translate. Speaking at least some Spanish helps you have a better time but plenty of guys don't speak more than 3 words and do ok.
The other guests may put together trip to the downtown massage places, maybe you can tag along. Ask the receptionist, she may be able to help coordinate it.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2039179]but you don't need to speak Spanish to have a good time there, or anywhere in Colombia for that matter. You can use google translate. Speaking at least some Spanish helps you have a better time but plenty of guys don't speak more than 3 words and do ok.[/QUOTE]Truth is there is little patience in Medellin for lazy twerps running to their translator apps, and anyone who says otherwise is liar. Lololol Queens likes painting a rosy picture for some reason, but he spends very little time in Medellin. If you know no Spanish or only a few words stay at the Mansion. They are set up for you.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2039179]
You won't need Spanish as the staff speaks English. The women don't, but you don't need to speak Spanish to have a good time there, or anywhere in Colombia for that matter. You can use google translate. Speaking at least some Spanish helps you have a better time but plenty of guys don't speak more than 3 words and do ok.[/QUOTE]Of course you don't NEED spanish skills to have an OK time in Colombia, especially in a place like the Mansion.
You're going to have fun! Hard not to.
However, the more spanish you speak, the exponentially better time you'll have!
That's just common sense.
If I speak Spanish, will that protect me from this?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2038873][URL]https://colombiareports.com/agc-preparing-terrorist-attacks-colombias-biggest-cities/[/URL]
'AGC preparing terrorist attacks in Colombia's biggest cities'.
"Colombia's largest illegal armed group, the AGC, A. K. A. "LOS Urabeos," is planning terrorist attacks in Colombia's largest cities Bogota and Medellin, according to an internal police memo leaked to Blu Radio.
According to the internal warning that was reportedly sent out on Tuesday, the group called the "Gulf Clan" by the authorities, would be planning car bomb attacks in Bogota and Medellin amid an apparent escalation of paramilitary violence that has been targeting civilians and security forces alike.
According to the memo, the alleged planned terrorism campaign would be coordinated by "Gavila," one of the members of the group's central command that is led by former AUC mid-level commander "Otoniel."
The AGC, also Colombia's largest drug trafficking organization, has been requesting inclusion in a peace process with the Marxist FARC guerrilla group, the paramilitaries' traditional enemies."
I fly back to Medellin in 10 days. Cars bombs not on my list of things to do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2039272]Truth is there is little patience in Medellin for lazy twerps running to their translator apps, and anyone who says otherwise is liar.[/QUOTE]On my last trip I took my buddy who spoke absolutely no Spanish. Not even 'gracias' and relied exclusively on Google translate.
He stuck to Loutron and Club Gusto. At Loutron the lady he was with spoke English. In Club Gusto he was the silent mime and he spoke no words to the woman even during TLN. In both venues he was clearly overcharged. The only normal casa he went to was New Life when I took him there. His English speaking driver who I arranged to take him on tours also overcharged a bit.
Then again he took one look around Centro with me and decided it wasn't for him. In Cartagena he only banged chicas in Isis. Again using his phone.
He did regret not speaking Spanish and sometimes I would be asked to do quite a bit of translating for normal day to day shit.
My take away is he was lonely as fuck because of it but enjoyed his time anyway. I was the exact way three years ago when my Spanish was nonexistent.
If you are going for the first time and speak no Spanish pick up a phrase book and make an effort. Every visit I had has improved my Spanish. You have to try though.
This gentleman Mike963 deserves good advice. Since he speaks no Spanish he belongs at the Mansion assuming he can afford it. I think that's where he's going and that's good. I'll admit that the concept of "a good time" is relative. I mean the scene in the US is so horrible most places that even fumbling around Medellin with a translator app given to frequent inaccuracy listening to all the "que? S and "como? S is still better than trying to score some junkie primadonna off backpage. But Medellin is far from English friendly. If one wants some of that there's the Mansion or the Gringo Gulch in Costa Rica.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2039570]This gentleman Mike963 deserves good advice. Since he speaks no Spanish he belongs at the Mansion assuming he can afford it. I think that's where he's going and that's good. I'll admit that the concept of "a good time" is relative. I mean the scene in the US is so horrible most places that even fumbling around Medellin with a translator app given to frequent inaccuracy listening to all the "que? S and "como? S is still better than trying to score some junkie primadonna off backpage. But Medellin is far from English friendly. If one wants some of that there's the Mansion or the Gringo Gulch in Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]I'm in same boat as Mike, zero Spanish; planning for a 5 day trip in June. Is it not manageable with translator apps in Casas and Clubs? My plan is to stay at hotel Nutibara for first 2 days and visit el centro clubs and near by casas; then move to El Poblado or other area. Mansion is expensive and want to avoid due to last year crack downs. ; If mansion is the the only option, I will skip mde all together, instead go to Tijuana Hong Kong club. I have no time to learn Spanish as researching club, hotel and casa takes lot of time. No one here specified Spanish is mandatory. BTW, is Spanish required to use uber?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2039566]
If you are going for the first time and speak no Spanish pick up a phrase book and make an effort. Every visit I had has improved my Spanish. You have to try though.[/QUOTE]I will preface this post by saying I do not consider myself fluent in Spanish, but have no problem getting around in Spanish speaking countries. I consider Fluent being able to defend myself in a Court of Law down there, even for something as basic as a traffic ticket.
With that being said:
Like anything in life, you have to at least try. If you have a 3-4 HR plane ride down there, that should be plenty of time to learn how to count & tell time from any basic Spanish book. After that, learn basic greetings & pleasantries. Then learn basic food & drink Items. Chances are you will be sitting next to a native Spanish speaker who would feel glad to help you. Like YKY said, you have to put out some effort. Go into the little tiendas & buy a bottle of water using only the Spanish you just learned, get a little confidence, listen to how the locals pronounce words & try to mimic their accent. It is quite an accomplishment to learn a second language, however, it doesn't do much good if you sound like Peggy Hill from the cartoon series King of The Hill. My first trip to the MDE while staying at the Mansion last July, there was a goofball that would brag about how great his Spanish was (& how great he was)!! I had one occasion to listen to this Self Glosser try to talk to a Taxista & I swear his Spanish sounded exactly like Peggy Hill's Cartoon Hooked on Phonics Spanish. I was actually embarassed for him his accent was so comical. So try to roll your are's & mimic the local accent after you get the bascis down pat!!
It's not that diffucult, but does require some effort & it will pay off exponentially when down there.
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2039570]he belongs at the Mansion assuming he can afford it.
If one wants some of that there's the Mansion or the Gringo Gulch in Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]More Mansion bashing? $65-85 is not affordable? I stayed at the Mansion on my first 2 trips & had an awesome time. I have a list of Mansion girls whom I will see the next trip down when I stay in Parque LLeras. Except for some of the clowns I met at the Mansion, (& I know some of them probably said the same about me) I couldn't have asked for a better intro to the MDE!!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2039791]More Mansion bashing? $65-85 is not affordable? I stayed at the Mansion on my first 2 trips & had an awesome time. I have a list of Mansion girls whom I will see the next trip down when I stay in Parque LLeras. Except for some of the clowns I met at the Mansion, (& I know some of them probably said the same about me) I couldn't have asked for a better intro to the MDE!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I don't think that was an attempt to bash the Mansion. There are people who come down here expecting to only pay $25/ night for a hotel and 50 k for each chica. It can be done, find meals for 8 k and get by on $60/ day. I don't think it can be done without some basic Spanish and a sense of adventure.
For somebody who thinks that is the norm, the Mansion might seem too expensive. Of course if they try to navigate el centro alone, at night, with no Spanish, it will probably end up being a lot more expensive.
As for the 8 k meals, just a block west of the South side of Parque el Poblado next to bar Erre, is a place. Haven't tried it, but saw the sign while out having beers the other night.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2039788]I will preface this post by saying I do not consider myself fluent in Spanish, but have no problem getting around in Spanish speakin.
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]My level of Spanish is elementary and did the Seeking Arrangement route while in medellin. I had a great time and had a FWB from 1 chica from an estrato 2/3 who was a physiotherapist and another chica from an estrato 3/4 who was a university student. They both treated me like a real BF and showed me gems in medellin that I wouldn't have found myself I. E. , restaurants in sabanetta, pueblito paisa, local eateries in envigado, bars in el poblano, parque llares. Also the estrato 2/3 girl showed me her communa Robledo and introduced me to cripa aka "creepy marajuana" that's the strongest synthesized grass you can find. I was high like a fucking kite after 2 hits LOL. And the estrato 3/4 girl gave me a tour around her university of antioquoa and introduced me to her friends and family.
Not that I frown on brothels or prepagos, actually I have the utmost respect for sex workers. But sticking out like a sore thumb being American and having elementary Spanish. I didn't want to risk hanging in the wrong barrio or crowd. So I went the SA route. Out of 60 chicas I messaged 2 weeks before my arrival. I met up with 6 and only fucked 2 which were the ones I mentioned. I only met up with chicas after video chatting to make sure they're real. What was great about the 2 chicas is they didn't even ask for money. They just said gift them whatever I wanted. So I gave them both between 200-300 mil pesos for being my tour guide and fuck buddy. We banged like 6 times the 4 days I was there.
So anyways, I recommend the SA route if you've got some game and are willing to put in the effort to be charming and interviewing the chicas. It's like dating but more straightforward.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2039828]
It's like dating but more straightforward.[/QUOTE]Dating doesn't include paying them in the end. She had the restaurants and activities laid out and let you decide what she was worth in the end. She's a prepago.
I used to fall for this shit but I got wise fast. She probably tried to hit you up for cash and gifts later. It's sex work only done subtly the Colombian way.
It's not a bad thing but don't assume it's anywhere close to dating. The power in the relationship is in your hands and not equal.
So here's the thing about translators: their output often makes no sense. Go read some restaurant reviews on the Spanish google and then use the translator function. You won't be able to tell whether the restaurant is worth eating at or not. I will give two examples:
A hooker on the Argentina board posted that she was looking for "ready horsemen."
So the Spanish word [I]listo[/I] can mean two things, depending on which of the two Spanish verbs for "to be" it is combined with. Yes, lads, Spanish has two completely different verbs for the very commonly needed English verb "to be." And if you get it wrong, it can cause some problems. If you say to a chica, [I]Estoy interesado[/I], that means you might be interested in her. But if you say [I][b]soy[/b] interesado[/I], you just told her you are a mercenary, greedy, money grubbing person. The fucking translator won't know the difference and in fact will likely come up with the latter.
In the case of [I]listo[/I], if used with the verb [I]estar[/I] (which means "to be"), it means to be ready. When used with the verb [I]ser[/I] (which [B]also[/B] means "to be"), it means to be smart or clever. Then [I]caballero[/I] means a gentleman. It dates back to medieval Spain, when only the landed gentry were allowed to have and ride horses and the peasants walked or rode donkeys. It literally translates as a horseback rider. You put those two together and the hooker was looking for smart gentlemen, a very far cry indeed from ready horsemen.
Or you might think your companion is bored. If you ask [I]¿Estás aburrida?[/I], you have correctly asked her is she is [B]bored[/B]. If you use the wrong choice for "to be," and ask her [I]¿Eres aburrida?[/I], you just stepped in shit by asking her if she was [B]boring[/B].
Now my second example is priceless. Some Captain Save a Ho wanted to give his favorite hooker a ring. Not an engagement ring, but a promise ring. He was very, very careful to make sure he described the ring to her as a "promise" ring, of course using his trusty translator to ensure he had the proper word for "promise. " Well, unfortunately for this douche bag, the word for 'promise' and 'to get engaged' is [B]the exact same word in Spanish:[/B] [I]comprometir[/I].
I could give a hundred examples but you're going to step all over your dick if you rely on translators to communicate with hookers, or landlords, or anything else important.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2039828]Also the estrato 2/3 girl showed me her communa Robledo and introduced me to cripa aka "creepy marajuana" that's the strongest synthesized grass you can find. I was high like a fucking kite after 2 hits LOL....
Not that I frown on brothels....but sticking out like a sore thumb being American and having elementary Spanish. I didn't want to risk hanging in the wrong barrio or crowd.[/QUOTE]So do you think taking some unknown drugs from a chick you just met online is a much more sensible thing to do than patronizing a licensed business?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2039839]
A hooker on the Argentina board posted that she was looking for "ready horsemen."[/QUOTE]Since you did not provide the Spanish, which I suppose the hooker posted, your two paragraph explanation didn't tell us much. If indeed she posted "ready horsemen", maybe she wanted to go for a ride.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2039851]Since you did not provide the Spanish, which I suppose the hooker posted, your two paragraph explanation didn't tell us much. If indeed she posted "ready horsemen", maybe she wanted to go for a ride.[/QUOTE]No, the hooker posted in English that she was looking for ready horsemen. That's the whole point. She used a translator and therefore posted total nonsense.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2039847]So do you think taking some unknown drugs from a chick you just met online is a much more sensible thing to do than patronizing a licensed business?[/QUOTE]And ask them what their barrio is. If they come from a good background, you don't get the robbing vibe from them, and their story adds up then yes. I'd trust them more than being around a shady barrio, with a culture and language I'm unfamiliar with. But like I inferred, it takes a lot of time and effort. Shit, even license businesses in Medellin are sketchy. I read on this forum that some guy got drugged in one of the casas.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2039803]As for the 8 k meals, just a block west of the South side of Parque el Poblado next to bar Erre, is a place. Haven't tried it, but saw the sign while out having beers the other night.[/QUOTE]There are many places to get lunch for close to 8 k. Just two blocks up the hill from Parque Lleras, on Cra 36, there are two places to get a complete lunch for 9 k and 7. 5 k. One is a restaurant next to Domino's Pizza, and the other is a hostel just west of there. Across Calle 10 from Parque El Poblado on Cra 43 be, there are two little restaurants that have complete lunches for 9 k. Downtown, restaurants for that price are numerous, many on the second floor.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2039834]Dating doesn't include paying them in the end. She had the restaurants and activities laid out and let you decide what she was worth in the end. She's a prepago.
I used to fall for this shit but I got wise fast. She probably tried to hit you up for cash and gifts later. It's sex work only done subtly the Colombian way.
It's not a bad thing but don't assume it's anywhere close to dating. The power in the relationship is in your hands and not equal.[/QUOTE]Makes an ass out of your sir. Because they are all wrong. Now whether or not a SB is a prepago is up for debate. I agree the act of money for sex is a prepago. But having a SB be a tour guide that treats you like a BF, showing you local hangouts, making sure you're safe, doesn't try to rob you, and fucks you twice a day without treating you like a number. Doesn't feel like a prepago transaction to me. Besides what I got for all day and night with these chicas, I would never be able to get that with a mansion girl for the price I gifted.
But like I said it didn't come easy and it took a lot of time and effort to narrow down the chicas. I agree there is transaction because I wouldn't gift an SB unless sex was involved. But for the amount I gave those SB's v. S what I got out of it. Is way better than what I would get from a casa girl for the same price.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2039828] ... snip ...
.[/QUOTE]Did you use [URL]sugardaddyrich.com[/URL] or is there another site?
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2039855]No, the hooker posted in English that she was looking for ready horsemen. That's the whole point. She used a translator and therefore posted total nonsense.[/QUOTE]There is a method to get the most out of translator apps. First, stick with simple sentences. The apps usually can handle those. Second, use the most accurate words. English is very flexible, but translators don't do well with that flexibility. Third, know something about the language structure. That way you can figure out which word is which. Go back and check to make sure you have the right word. If you type a single word into Google Translate you get all the possible meanings.
None of this is foolproof, but it improves your chance of being understood.
It might also motivate you to start learning the language. Not you in particular, but the people hoping to get by with just translate.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2039867]Did you use [URL]sugardaddyrich.com[/URL] or is there another site?[/QUOTE]Seeking arrangements.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2039865]There are many places to get lunch for close to 8 k. Just two blocks up the hill from Parque Lleras, on Cra 36, there are two places to get a complete lunch for 9 k and 7. 5 k. One is a restaurant next to Domino's Pizza, and the other is a hostel just west of there. Across Calle 10 from Parque El Poblado on Cra 43 be, there are two little restaurants that have complete lunches for 9 k. Downtown, restaurants for that price are numerous, many on the second floor.[/QUOTE]I know. Well not those in particular, but the availability of cheap food. Usually I'm spending 12 - 15 k, when I'm not eating at home, but I've seen plenty of 9 k or less options. I think I saw a place at Estadio for 6 k, but didn't see what was included.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2039866]Makes an ass out of your sir. Because they are all wrong. Now whether or not a SB is a prepago is up for debate. I agree the act of money for sex is a prepago. But having a SB be a tour guide that treats you like a BF, showing you local hangouts, making sure you're safe, doesn't try to rob you, and fucks you twice a day without treating you like a number. Doesn't feel like a prepago transaction to me. Besides what I got for all day and night with these chicas, I would never be able to get that with a mansion girl for the price I gifted.
But like I said it didn't come easy and it took a lot of time and effort to narrow down the chicas. I agree there is transaction because I wouldn't gift an SB unless sex was involved. But for the amount I gave those SB's v. S what I got out of it. Is way better than what I would get from a casa girl for the same price.[/QUOTE]If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck well its probably a duck. Yes myself and a few others have much experience with SA girls in Colombia but not to be overshadowed by the nuances of Colombian culture and norms, can't explain it as its something that you just need to experience and learn. What you describe here is prepago.
But why not enjoy anyway.
TTM.
'Cripa aka "creepy marajuana" that's the strongest synthesized grass you can find'.
LOL!
Its Krippy, not creepy. Its a very common term for decent weed, usually grown indoors.
Its what we used to call the 'kind bud' or the good weed back in college-like 25 years ago!
Regular crappy brown 'mexi' weed with seeds and stems, the shit in a brick is called schwag.
Now a days, all of it (pretty much) is good weed and there really isn't much schwag left in the US.
ALl dispensaries in California and Colorado only sell good weed. Or as you would call it 'creepy' LOL.
And, no, that's not the same as 'taking drugs' from a stranger. Its smoking weed--a freaking' plant!
Weed is legal in MDE for personal use--heck, you can buy grown kits with lights in centro commercial de Santa Fe--they even sell the seeds right there in the mall!. And glass bongs, bubblers and other related items.
Hardly a risk.
And good for you, dude. You got high with a hottie, and got to see some new shit for you. All for a small $$. Yeah, she's probably a prepago--but who cares about the labels. A good time is just fine enough!
I've picked up a few on Tinder and Baddoo.
Messaged a tinder chick that I wanted weed and women.
45 minutes later, her friend pulled up in front of my hotel with some nice good weed (not as good as California. But still, got me high). And an hour after that, I had an amazingly hot chick blowing me on my hotel balcony. While I hit the bong I bought at the mall for 40 bucks.
Medellin: hot chicks, cheap weed, and good times. What's not to love?
A Guapa 22 yo from Bello can hook up with you on Skype and via translation programs, both in text and voice, teach you about Medellin. Thereby making your stay more efficient, she leads you to the places you want to visit, nd to aviod, local customs etc.
She can help you find the things you want, be your company, help you find prepagos with good reviews. She can have a few secure taxis that you can rely on. Etc.
I urged her to ASAP start online English courses.
She can be your company going to Guatape or Santa Fe de Antioquia, and arrange the tickets etc.
We are friends so I never ask or will ask if she charge for sex. That can ruin the the whole friendship. She can be a prepago, but just asking her, might / will insult her so much.
You can call her guide. I put this idea into her head just a few hours ago.
She will not be expensive, her alternative is working for minimum wage. Using her knowledge and contacts in Medellin, making maybe the same money, but doing stuff that can lead to a career as a guide made her very positive. She will not charge the taxi drivers or prepagos, just show you where everything is located etc. In Medellin. Saving you a lot of time.
PM me if you are interested. Cheers!
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2039791]More Mansion bashing? $65-85 is not affordable?[/QUOTE]I was recommending the Mansion, not "bashing" it. As to the affordability of the mansion rates, yea, about anyone can afford it for a short trip but on a long trip it may be a bit rich for some.
[QUOTE=Jicks;2039614]I'm in same boat as Mike, zero Spanish; planning for a 5 day trip in June. Is it not manageable with translator apps in Casas and Clubs? My plan is to stay at hotel Nutibara for first 2 days and visit el centro clubs and near by casas; then move to El Poblado or other area. Mansion is expensive and want to avoid due to last year crack downs. ; If mansion is the the only option, I will skip mde all together, instead go to Tijuana Hong Kong club. I have no time to learn Spanish as researching club, hotel and casa takes lot of time. No one here specified Spanish is mandatory. BTW, is Spanish required to use uber?[/QUOTE]For one thing people are going to say things to you and expect you to understand, and don't think everyone is going to want to hang around to type in your translator app. And even when they do don't expect what comes back to make any sense. Often it doesn't. That said yes you can get laid at the casas and clubs, but showing up in Medellin with nothing but "hola" and "gracias" is going to involve a lot of problems and frustrations. If you don 't want to learn any Spanish or stay at the Mansion then my recommendation is Gringo Gulch Costa Rica and the Sportsman's Lodge.
Just wanted to thank you guys for all your help. Especially for the Language recommendations.
I had a good time even though my Spanish was weak.
1. I Learned the basic greetings.
2. kept it simple and use short easy sentences.
3 a. I created a phrase book on phone and paper.
Be. Note: I would review the phrase book before specific situations.
See. I did not take out my phone out unless the other person was confused by the phrase I was using.
4 a. Always be polite almost too polite but, that is easy for a Canadian.
B. Sometimes I was a little too formal. One time after being with a pretty lady I said "Gracias por su ayuda. "
(it was stuck in my head from when I would ask for directions instead of coming up with something more smooth.
5 a. The locals are very nice and welcoming. If I was really stuck I would politely ask if they minded writing down what they were saying or the price.
B. Many people spoke so fast and I did not want to be rude too much with gestures or make them speak into my phone.
6. A smile and polite gracias goes a long way. I did make people laugh at me a few times. I have a good sense of humor, I can take it.
7. Also the hotel I was staying has a for hire pretty good English speaking taxi driver.
He worked in Canada and USA for many years in construction and as a taxi driver.
He said I could give out his number. (he lives in Bogota though).
I think his price was fair. 50000 COP airport runs and for guided tours or regular rides 25000 COP per hour.
Next trip I would come to Medellin and stay at the Mansion. I will keep improving my Spanish and venture out a little.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2039858]And ask them what their barrio is. If they come from a good background, you don't get the robbing vibe from them, and their story adds up then yes. I'd trust them more than being around a shady barrio, with a culture and language I'm unfamiliar with. But like I inferred, it takes a lot of time and effort. Shit, even license businesses in Medellin are sketchy. I read on this forum that some guy got drugged in one of the casas.[/QUOTE]That's a good plan since there is no chance that they will lie and tell you a nice story. LOL.
Speaking Spanish helps if you have a specific request or something important to convey to the chica to make your session more memorable. But if you just want a "standard" session, you could be a deaf mute and you will enjoy yourself.
Some / most of the guys who preach the "Spanish is necessary" are doing it to prevent newbies and Spanish illiterate guys from coming to Colombia. The old "I don't want new kids in my sandbox" comes to mind. I find that comical to be possessive of hookers.
I must tell 3-5 guys per day about Colombia. A lot of guys from work are planning a trip. The pastiest white guys you'll ever see, and none of them speak a word of Spanish. I will give them a map and some advice and they will have a great time. How hard is it to walk into a brothel and point to a chica. After that, it's pretty self-explanatory. If you need Spanish to fuck, you got bigger problems than language. As for indy's, you usually book them by whatsapp and that's why they invented google translate. It's enough to book a simple date. These guys are not looking to have any in-depth conversations with these chicas.
Maybe if enough English-only guys come to MDE, the chicas will realize that learning a little English may help business.
Typical US attitude. They should learn English. Whatever. I know my knowledge of Spanish improves my experiences 200% or 300%. Those who can't speak it don't know what they are missing. I don't go to Colombia any more so I'm certainly not trying to keep people away. I spend my time in safer Spanish-speaking countries with better food.
Jack,
I am in Medellin now and have a few days to kill. I like your idea and would like to hire your friend as a guide and Spanish teacher. I spent 4 month learning Spanish on Duolingo. Now I can read, write basics. But can only speak a little, slowly and broken. Does she have WhatsApp?
By the way, do you have time for a drink together? I am from New York. Second time to Colombia but I have been mongering in Europe a while.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2040569]Typical US attitude. They should learn English. Whatever. I know my knowledge of Spanish improves my experiences 200% or 300%. Those who can't speak it don't know what they are missing. I don't go to Colombia any more so I'm certainly not trying to keep people away. I spend my time in safer Spanish-speaking countries with better food.[/QUOTE]Other than CR and Spain. Which ones do you recommend.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040543]Speaking Spanish helps if you have a specific request or something important to convey to the chica to make your session more memorable. But if you just want a "standard" session, you could be a deaf mute and you will enjoy yourself.
Some / most of the guys who preach the "spanish is necessary" are doing it to prevent newbies and Spanish illiterate guys from coming to Colombia. The old "I don't want new kids in my sandbox" comes to mind. I find that comical to be possessive of hookers..[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2023135[/URL]#post2023135.
Yea the guy that got robbed at knife point. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I agree with dickhead. Don't be a typical fucking gringo and not know basics. Don't think this is a first world country. It's a jungle. You can be the victor or the victim. Viva Colombia baby!
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040543]Speaking Spanish helps if you have a specific request or something important to convey to the chica to make your session more memorable. But if you just want a "standard" session, you could be a deaf mute and you will enjoy yourself.
Some / most of the guys who preach the "spanish is necessary" are doing it to prevent newbies and Spanish illiterate guys from coming to Colombia. The old "I don't want new kids in my sandbox" comes to mind. I find that comical to be possessive of hookers.
I must tell 3-5 guys per day about Colombia. A lot of guys from work are planning a trip. The pastiest white guys you'll ever see, and none of them speak a word of Spanish. I will give them a map and some advice and they will have a great time. How hard is it to walk into a brothel and point to a chica. After that, it's pretty self-explanatory. If you need Spanish to fuck, you got bigger problems than language. As for indy's, you usually book them by whatsapp and that's why they invented google translate. It's enough to book a simple date. These guys are not looking to have any in-depth conversations with these chicas.
Maybe if enough English-only guys come to MDE, the chicas will realize that learning a little English may help business.[/QUOTE]Speaking Spanish isn't necessary to come to Medellin and fuck. As you said you can walk in someplace, point and the rest is pretty easy.
However, some people, when visiting another country, don't spend every waking hour fucking. Everything you do that isn't fucking, will be better if you speak some Spanish. This includes getting from the airport to your hotel, checking in to your hotel, ordering food and taking a taxi to whichever casa you visit. Even the fucking is sometimes improved by a few compliments or directions.
Knowing some Spanish also gives you more freedom. You can explore (in the better parts of Medellin) without worrying about getting lost. You can exchange a few words with people, something that will come in handy if you're staying at an AirBnB apartment. You might even overhear "Tan hermoso. Ojala todos LOS extranjeros sean asi. " And who knows where a few phrases in Spanish will take you?
There is no need to learn Spanish, but if you rate your trips by something other than # of fucks per dollars spent, learning some Spanish will make your trip better.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2040607]Other than CR and Spain. Which ones do you recommend.[/QUOTE]Those are the two I recommend. Mostly I spend about a third of the year in Spain. Only Italy has better food. The French would argue, but they would argue over a wet dream. Argentina is fairly safe (I spent about seven years there) lbut the club scene no longer exists except for a couple of very sad places. There are still plenty of internet gals and Craigslist gals. I'm sure anyone with Google translate would have no trouble getting ahold of them.
Not.
Fucking is definitely better if you speak her language. How else do you tell her, 'I like this but not that. ' 'Do that a little softer / harder / slower / faster, please.' 'Can you stick your butt a little farther in the air?' 'Open your legs a little wider, please.' 'Yes, I promise not to come in your mouth but I don't always keep my promises.' And how do you ask her what [B]she[/B] likes? Oh, that's right, I forgot; you don't care. It's been worth it to me it learn the languages where I travel most often. So I can communicate with hookers in several types of Spanish, Italian, and French, and I'm working on my Portuguese. But I'm also interested in meeting regular people, and I travel all the time. I'm sure my viewpoint would be different if I were flying someplace for a weekend that I had never been before and never planned to go back to.
My problem is, if they use a different alphabet, I'm lost. Can't learn much of anything. Also I could not learn German to save my soul, even after several weeks there. You win some, you lose some.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2040639]Speaking Spanish isn't necessary to come to Medellin and fuck. As you said you can walk in someplace, point and the rest is pretty easy.
However, some people, when visiting another country, don't spend every waking hour fucking. Everything you do that isn't fucking, will be better if you speak some Spanish. This includes getting from the airport to your hotel, checking in to your hotel, ordering food and taking a taxi to whichever casa you visit. Even the fucking is sometimes improved by a few compliments or directions.
Knowing some Spanish also gives you more freedom. You can explore (in the better parts of Medellin) without worrying about getting lost. You can exchange a few words with people, something that will come in handy if you're staying at an AirBnB apartment. You might even overhear "Tan hermoso. Ojala todos LOS extranjeros sean asi. " And who knows where a few phrases in Spanish will take you?
There is no need to learn Spanish, but if you rate your trips by something other than # of fucks per dollars spent, learning some Spanish will make your trip better.[/QUOTE]Excellent post, thank you!
You'd think it'd be plain common sense.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040543]Speaking Spanish helps if you have a specific request or something important to convey to the chica to make your session more memorable. But if you just want a "standard" session, you could be a deaf mute and you will enjoy yourself.
Some / most of the guys who preach the "spanish is necessary" are doing it to prevent newbies and Spanish illiterate guys from coming to Colombia. The old "I don't want new kids in my sandbox" comes to mind. I find that comical to be possessive of hookers.
I must tell 3-5 guys per day about Colombia. A lot of guys from work are planning a trip. The pastiest white guys you'll ever see, and none of them speak a word of Spanish. I will give them a map and some advice and they will have a great time. How hard is it to walk into a brothel and point to a chica. After that, it's pretty self-explanatory. If you need Spanish to fuck, you got bigger problems than language. As for indy's, you usually book them by whatsapp and that's why they invented google translate. It's enough to book a simple date. These guys are not looking to have any in-depth conversations with these chicas.
Maybe if enough English-only guys come to MDE, the chicas will realize that learning a little English may help business.[/QUOTE]I think the "new kids in the sandbox" deal is done.
The word is, and has been out about Medellin, and all of Colombia.
Common sense says, learning some language skills of the place I'm visiting can only make my time better.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2040709]I think the "new kids in the sandbox" deal is done.
The word is, and has been out about Medellin, and all of Colombia.
Common sense says, learning some language skills of the place I'm visiting can only make my time better.[/QUOTE]90% of the conversations I've had with North American white men about Colombia always involves the questioning of safety in Colombia. Your average uncultured white North American male assumes Colombia looks like the Netflix series 'Narcos. ' I think this has acted as a bit of a gate.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2040732]90% of the conversations I've had with North American white men about Colombia always involves the questioning of safety in Colombia. Your average uncultured white North American male assumes Colombia looks like the Netflix series 'Narcos. ' I think this has acted as a bit of a gate.[/QUOTE]Yeah I get the same reaction from friends and family, "Colombia? Oh NO!
Getting tired of pointing out Jamaica, the Bahama and U.S. Virgin Islands all have a higher murder rate, and Medellín is now considered safer than the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans etc.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Crime.
I'd like to see what a gringo who speaks zero Spanish says to a colombian police officer who walks up to him and asks him for identification and proof he is in the country legally. That's not an uncommon occurrence.
But out of 53 countries I've been to, Colombia would certainly be one of the five most dangerous, if you take an overarching view of danger. You have a high murder rate, a high traffic fatality rate, a lot of unvaccinated people and dogs, poor food safety (although I've seen way worse), and some fevers in certain parts of the country. Now, I have not been to the coastal areas. I have been to Bogotá, Medellíand, Bucamaranga, and Leticia and the surrounding Amazon.
And, I'd add the danger of building collapses, the lack of fire escapes, the propensity to chain lock emergency exits, and so forth to the list. When I lived in Medellíand, I watched them put up an apartment building across the street. A complete disregard for safety. The building I lived in, which was I believe 24 stories and I was on I think #15, would sway in the wind, and not even heavy winds.
So enjoy, but be safe and don't be naïve.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2040757]But out of 53 countries I've been to, Colombia would certainly be one of the five most dangerous, if you take an overarching view of danger. ...[/QUOTE]I think I should thank you if you have persuaded at least one gringo monger to not go to Medellin. In my opinion, there are too many mongers going, and that is changing the attitudes of the ladies. There are still many very nice ladies available; but the number of the ones who are not so nice, want more money, and are not dependable is increasing.
I'll try to avoid all those dangers, and continue to visit.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2040772]I think I should thank you if you have persuaded at least one gringo monger to not go to Medellin. In my opinion, there are too many mongers going, and that is changing the attitudes of the ladies. There are still many very nice ladies available; but the number of the ones who are not so nice, want more money, and are not dependable is increasing.
I'll try to avoid all those dangers, and continue to visit.[/QUOTE]What is an alternative? Personally I find I have more options than I can possibly consume. And you can't beat 10 dollar pussy for the quickies inn casas.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2040639]However, some people, when visiting another country, don't spend every waking hour fucking. Everything you do that isn't fucking, will be better if you speak some Spanish. This includes getting from the airport to your hotel, checking in to your hotel, ordering food and taking a taxi to whichever casa you visit. Even the fucking is sometimes improved by a few compliments or directions.[/QUOTE]Even better at least attempting to use the language sets one apart from the stereotypical gringo sex tourist that the Medellin govt wants out.
Last trip I was in New Life and there was a group of cargo shorts wearing gringos talking so loud you could hear them all over the building. They were making fun of the girl's names while laughing at the prices. When addressed they made no attempt at all to use the local language. Nearby Colombianos were rolling their eyes. But if we listen to guys like Queens what is needed is more of these so the locals will ultimately adapt and learn to speak English. Lololol.
The cluelessness is mind boggling.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2040709]Common sense says, learning some language skills of the place I'm visiting can only make my time better.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dickhead;2040691]Fucking is definitely better if you speak her language. How else do you tell her, 'I like this but not that. ' 'Do that a little softer / harder / slower / faster, please.' 'Can you stick your butt a little farther in the air?' 'Open your legs a little wider, please.' 'Yes, I promise not to come in your mouth but I don't always keep my promises.' And how do you ask her what [B]she[/B] likes? Oh, that's right, I forgot; you don't care. It's been worth it to me it learn the languages where I travel most often..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JjBee62;2040639]There is no need to learn Spanish, but if you rate your trips by something other than # of fucks per dollars spent, learning some Spanish will make your trip better.[/QUOTE]I agree with all these statements. I never said that speaking Spanish (at least some) has no effect on the quality of your sessions. I agree that it does and give you more options. My point was to discredit the statement "Unless you speak decent Spanish, you shouldn't come (or even think about coming) to Colombia". That's a load of crap.
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[QUOTE=Dickhead;2040757]I'd like to see what a gringo who speaks zero Spanish says to a colombian police officer who walks up to him and asks him for identification and proof he is in the country legally. That's not an uncommon occurrence.[/QUOTE]The gringo sex tourist who speaks zero Spanish would say / do the exact same thing as the yuppie eco-tourist who speaks zero Spanish would say / do.
BTW- Do cops actually do that? I have never carried any kind of ID or papers with me anywhere in Medellin. I'm not giving my passport to some mugger, so I prefer to leave it in the hotel. If they ever stop me, I will tell them when I arrived. I'm sure it won't be a problem.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2040639]However, some people, when visiting another country, don't spend every waking hour fucking.[/QUOTE]Oh sorry, yes, you are correct. They spend the rest of the time is sitting in a bar / restaurant drinking. As long as they can say "Ser-vey-sa pour fah-vour" the majority of sex tourists will be good.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2040788]Last trip I was in New Life and there was a group of cargo shorts wearing gringos talking so loud you could hear them all over the building. They were making fun of the girl's names while laughing at the prices. When addressed they made no attempt at all to use the local language. Nearby Colombianos were rolling their eyes. But if we listen to guys like Queens what is needed is more of these so the locals will ultimately adapt and learn to speak English. Lololol.[/QUOTE]I bet those guys had an awesome time at NL and Colombia. The rest is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040828]
BTW- Do cops actually do that? I have never carried any kind of ID or papers with me anywhere in Medellin.[/QUOTE]They are always more interested in a multa than in my passport. I'vebeen stopped a total of five times both in Medellin and Cartagena after 2 am for a frisk. Both times they never asked for ID. One time he asked what kind of ID I had but never looked at it.
Twice I was asked to give a donation of 5 mil pesos Once I had a local drug dealer tell me "no -da- la plata para la polizia" (And Dickhead don't correct my Spanish that's what he said). I don't partake BTW in any drugs. Not even MJ.
EDIT: fixing the auto-respelling for the spanish part.
I think that is a load of crap too. I believe that is why it appears so often on here. We all know it's true that you can pay to be with girls in casas. That is why you don't' see people insisting it's true most every day. It brings to mind the "thou dost protest too much" quote.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040824]I agree with all these statements. I never said that speaking Spanish (at least some) has no effect on the quality of your sessions. I agree that it does and give you more options. My point was to discredit the statement "Unless you speak decent Spanish, you shouldn't come (or even think about coming) to Colombia". That's a load of crap.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040828]The gringo sex tourist who speaks zero Spanish would say / do the exact same thing as the yuppie eco-tourist who speaks zero Spanish would say / do.
BTW- Do cops actually do that? I have never carried any kind of ID or papers with me anywhere in Medellin. I'm not giving my passport to some mugger, so I prefer to leave it in the hotel. If they ever stop me, I will tell them when I arrived. I'm sure it won't be a problem.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do. What you want to do is carry a photocopy of your passport. One side of the paper should have the declaration page with your photo and the other side should show the entry stamp with the date. If you think you won't have a problem, though, just keep on doing what you've been doing. And no, your US driver's license won't cut it.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2040833]They are always more interested in a multa than in my passport. I've been stopped a total of five times both in Medellin and Cartagena after 2 am for a frisk. Both times they never asked for ID. One time he asked what kind of ID I had but never looked at it.[/QUOTE]My experience is totally different.
As I widely reported, I've been stopped by police at least once in each trip I had in Colombia, at night and at day, in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena (except my last two times! Ahah, what's changing??). Police has been always very professional. They look for drugs and check ID. The first approach is strong, but never rude. Once they understand I am not a drug consumer, I have my ID although not the original passport (I have my national picture ID and a photocopy of my passport) they smoothen down. Every time the check ended up with smiles, even pat on shoulder, and "bienvenido". Sure, my decent Spanish helps.
Colombian police is great. Always very professional in my experience (I paid tips to police in many countries including Panama, Mexico, Uganda, Ghana, and others. But never in Colombia).
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2040833]Twice I was asked to give a donation of 5 mil pesos Once I had a local drug dealer tell me "no -da- la plata para la polizia" (And Dickhead don't correct my Spanish that's what he said). I don't partake BTW in any drugs. Not even MJ.[/QUOTE]No need to disturb Master Dickhead. That Spanish is crap (sorry to express an objective fact with unpolite words, it's just to add some spice). At least the Italian "polizia" will be never heard in Medellin, unless a Napoli's drug dealer was outstationed there for some internship in local organizations.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2040732]90% of the conversations I've had with North American white men about Colombia always involves the questioning of safety in Colombia. Your average uncultured white North American male assumes Colombia looks like the Netflix series 'Narcos. ' I think this has acted as a bit of a gate.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I add that we don't really need to increase the percentage of that type of Americans in Colombia (sorry: COLUMBIA), so it is better to leave them explore the world from the chair of their living room by way of TV serials.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040832]I bet those guys had an awesome time at NL and Colombia. The rest is irrelevant.[/QUOTE]They had awesome time, while people was laughing at them from all sides. It is probably irrelevant for them, but I would not like to be considered an idiot by people surrounding me.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2040830]Oh sorry, yes, you are correct. They spend the rest of the time is sitting in a bar / restaurant drinking. As long as they can say "Ser-vey-sa pour fah-vour" the majority of sex tourists will be good.[/QUOTE]Sex tourists will always be offensive to the locals. To make things worse, sex tourists are even more offensive to the authorities. You can argue about how it helps the economy, you can point out that most of the customers are locals, but that doesn't change the native's perception.
I'm not a sex tourist. Occasionally I'll partake, but I no longer have the desire or energy to do 20 girls every week. How the sex tourists behave has no effect on me, even though I'm an obvious gringo. If I go to Parque Lleras, I'm with a group of Colombian fiends. When I'm out alone, very few people take obvious notice, and those who do are friendly and helpful, because I'm making an effort to embrace the culture.
Obvious sex tourists are targets. They're targets for thieves, targets for scam artists and targets for the police. They're targets because most of the locals don't want them here. More obvious sex tourists who speak no Spanish won't convince everyone to learn English, it will only make the sex tourists bigger targets.
It doesn't matter to me, but it should matter to you. When that target gets too big, the fun and games will be over.
There are other ways to spend your free time than sitting in a restaurant or bar drinking. Go see a movie. Most are in English with Spanish subtitles. Go to a museum, or the botanical gardens, or Explora. Or take a few hours to ride the metro. Talk to a few people. Take a bus to Guatape or Santa Fe. There's plenty of ways to spend your free time.
The catch is, you need to learn a little bit of Spanish to do those things.
Do things however you want. As I've said, it has no effect on me, other than taxi and Uber drivers being worried I will slam the door. Enjoy things in your way and tell everyone they don't need to bother with Spanish. In 2, 5 or 10 years you'll be complaining about Medellin no longer being a good place to monger and whining about the people who ruined it for everyone.
Meanwhile I'll still be here, eating mondongo and sipping my jugo con leche.
I see people are back to the "you have to know Spanish to really blah blah blah" arguments. Lack of Spanish skills never stopped me from enjoying myself. And no, I've never owned a pair of cargo shorts. Some things are in bad taste anywhere you take them.
I am curious however, if anyone down there recently noticed a lot of hype about the upcoming season of "Juego de Tronos". When I was last down there in April of last year, "Juego de Tronos" (Game of Thrones) was the main buzz on TV and in advertising media. Nothing about Zika, though that was big in the US media. Why? Well, if you think about it, the pretext of Game of Thrones is really just a metaphor for modern Latin American history. Despite its superficial trappings, it doesn't have much in common with Europe in antiquity. That's just casting, sets, and costumes you see there. On the other hand, all aspects of Latin American politics are represented in "Juego De Tronaos": Generalissimos, juntas, druglords, revolutionaries, religious fanatics, repression of peasantry, the Catholic church, superstition and lots and lots of wh*res. They just have different names and titles. Think about it for a while, and you will see what I mean. And naturally it will appeal to Latin American audiences, because it is familiar to them, whereas it seems like fantasy to American audiences (I can't vouch for how it projects to European audiences). If George Martin ever wants to do another HBO series, all he will have to do is rehash these old GoT scripts with a setting in a fictitious LA nation set in more modern times. Love in the Time of Zika.
The 'you must know Spanish' thing confuses and bores me. It confuses me because I know so many guys who have no Spanish knowledge but enjoy visiting Colombia regularly. I don't doubt they could enjoy it more if they could speak Spanish but it is a long way between that and the endless references to what guys must do to make it. That gets boring.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2041094]I see people are back to the "you have to know Spanish to really blah blah blah" arguments. Lack of Spanish skills never stopped me from enjoying myself. And no, I've never owned a pair of cargo shorts. Some things are in bad taste anywhere you take them.
I am curious however, if anyone down there recently noticed a lot of hype about the upcoming season of "Juego de Tronos". When I was last down there in April of last year, "Juego de Tronos" (Game of Thrones) was the main buzz on TV and in advertising media. Nothing about Zika, though that was big in the US media. Why? Well, if you think about it, the pretext of Game of Thrones is really just a metaphor for modern Latin American history. Despite its superficial trappings, it doesn't have much in common with Europe in antiquity. That's just casting, sets, and costumes you see there. On the other hand, all aspects of Latin American politics are represented in "Juego De Tronaos": Generalissimos, juntas, druglords, revolutionaries, religious fanatics, repression of peasantry, the Catholic church, superstition and lots and lots of wh*res. They just have different names and titles. Think about it for a while, and you will see what I mean. And naturally it will appeal to Latin American audiences, because it is familiar to them, whereas it seems like fantasy to American audiences (I can't vouch for how it projects to European audiences). If George Martin ever wants to do another HBO series, all he will have to do is rehash these old GoT scripts with a setting in a fictitious LA nation set in more modern times. Love in the Time of Zika.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2041244]The 'you must know Spanish' thing confuses and bores me. It confuses me because I know so many guys who have no Spanish knowledge but enjoy visiting Colombia regularly. I don't doubt they could enjoy it more if they could speak Spanish but it is a long way between that and the endless references to what guys must do to make it. That gets boring.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone said "you must know Spanish. " I certainly didn't. What several have said is that learning some Spanish opens up more options and can improve the overall experience. If you don't mind pointing at the menu for every meal, or being able to get the hotel to understand there is a dead rat in your room, if you don't mind limiting your communication to hand gestures and grunts, then there's no reason to learn a few Spanish phrases.
What I've found is that when I use my poor (but improving) Spanish, people answer back in their poor English.
What I don't understand is why people get so upset when someone says "you should try to learn a little Spanish. " It's not like we're suggesting you dip your nuts in turpentine or stick your hand in a shark's mouth. Take 20 or 30 minutes a day with an app like Duolingo or Busuu. In a few weeks you'll be able to have basic interactions in Spanish. In a few months you can have basic conversations.
Then when your taxi is about to turn the wrong way you can tell him so.
Do whatever way works for you. There's just no need to insist that nobody should learn Spanish.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2039839] <snip> Now my second example is priceless. Some Captain Save a Ho wanted to give his favorite hooker a ring. Not an engagement ring, but a promise ring. He was very, very careful to make sure he described the ring to her as a "promise" ring, of course using his trusty translator to ensure he had the proper word for "promise. " Well, unfortunately for this douche bag, the word for 'promise' and 'to get engaged' is [B]the exact same word in Spanish:[/B] [I]comprometir[/I]. <snip> [/QUOTE]I sure am not qualified to argue Spanish with you. But I will point out that when I lookup "promise" on Wordreference I get "prometer". When I lookup "get engaged" I get "comprometerSE" and "prometerSE". "ComprometerSE" can translate to either "promise" or "to get engaged". "Prometer" (not reflexive) does not translate to "to get engaged".
I couldn't agree more that machine translation sucks.
Bob.
Yes, to get engaged is reflexive and to promise is not (unless you are promising yourself, of course). But try putting the English words through a translator and see what you get. And in a lot of parts of the world, Spanish speakers will use [I]comprometir[/I] non-reflexively as commitment or promise. Haven't you ever heard in BA, '[I]no hay ningún compromiso[/I]'? In any case, the argentinean woman thought she was getting an engagement ring and the gringo thought he was giving a promise ring. Note that once you conjugate a reflexive verb, the reflexive pronoun separates from the infinitive and you have the same word as in the non-reflexive related verb.
In the third person preterite, for example:
Comprometió.
Se comprometió.
Same thing happens in all the other tenses as well.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2041532] if you don't mind limiting your communication to hand gestures and grunts, then there's no reason to learn a few Spanish phrases.
(.....)
Do whatever way works for you. There's just no need to insist that nobody should learn Spanish.[/QUOTE]Spot on! Well said!
That's the key in every country. Also in Batam, my experience turned 180° just as soon as I became able to sustain basic communication with locals in Bahasa Indonesia (and I learned <<100 words).
But there's no need to insist to lecture people on what they should do. There are things that are either understood autonomously or impossible to get even if explained.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2041773] Also in Batam, my experience turned 180 just as soon as I became able to sustain basic communication with locals in Bahasa Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Supposedly that is the easiest language in the world to learn next to Swedish and Esperanto. At least that is what the linguists say. I have been trying to learn BI through book and videos, and so far it seems easier than Spanish! That says a lot. Maybe I will have it down by next summer. In the meantime, I will still work on my Spanish, though my pretty Salvadorena tutor at work found a better job.
Colombia. Indonesia. They share an ocean.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2041548]once you conjugate a reflexive verb, the reflexive pronoun separates from the infinitive and you have the same word as in the non-reflexive related verb.
[/QUOTE]Very impressive DH!
I don't even know what that means in English!! Although I have no trouble whatsoever when I travel down there, this is why I will never consider myself fluent!!
El Mechanico.
Anybody bite? Seems pretty cute.
She quotes 200 plus taxis.
Sounds like all star performance rates.
Wendy with that beautiful face that I heard opened up a store and demi who had another kid. They been missing get for like two years. Any info on them if you rather PM me that is fine.
I have to print it out-.
"Time to check-in online:
From 72 to 2 hours before the scheduled departure".
Where in Medellin am I going to be able to get to a printer. I will have my laptop but no printer.
Are there internet cafes with printers in Centro? (I didn't see any last time).
Don't know if Hotel Botero will let me back in their office to mess with their computers / printers.
I am not insisting. In fact, I agree knowing Spanish is an advantage. I am only objecting to reading it as often as I do here and seeing guys get hit over the head with it. It's common sense after all. Some guys don't have the ability or interest, it's up to them.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2041532]I don't think anyone said "you must know Spanish. " I certainly didn't. What several have said is that learning some Spanish opens up more options and can improve the overall experience. If you don't mind pointing at the menu for every meal, or being able to get the hotel to understand there is a dead rat in your room, if you don't mind limiting your communication to hand gestures and grunts, then there's no reason to learn a few Spanish phrases.
What I've found is that when I use my poor (but improving) Spanish, people answer back in their poor English.
What I don't understand is why people get so upset when someone says "you should try to learn a little Spanish. " It's not like we're suggesting you dip your nuts in turpentine or stick your hand in a shark's mouth. Take 20 or 30 minutes a day with an app like Duolingo or Busuu. In a few weeks you'll be able to have basic interactions in Spanish. In a few months you can have basic conversations.
Then when your taxi is about to turn the wrong way you can tell him so.
Do whatever way works for you. There's just no need to insist that nobody should learn Spanish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2042033]I have to print it out-.
"Time to check-in online:
From 72 to 2 hours before the scheduled departure".
Where in Medellin am I going to be able to get to a printer. I will have my laptop but no printer.[/QUOTE]Can't you send your boarding pass to your phone, iPad, laptop? Most airlines accept soft copies. You can also print it at the boarding gate. At least, that's the case with most airlines, all over the world.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2042065]Can't you send your boarding pass to your phone, iPad, laptop? Most airlines accept soft copies. You can also print it at the boarding gate. At least, that's the case with most airlines, all over the world.[/QUOTE]The King of Cheap Airlines who nickle & dime you.
Has to be a hard copy.
"It is essential to submit a printed boarding pass, in a letter-size sheet. If traveling with more than one person, each boarding pass should be submitted on a separate sheet."
"If you fail to submit your printed boarding pass and did not purchase the check in at the airport service, printing your boarding pass at the airport will have an extra charge, click to know more about the service."
"If you choose the online check-in option and fail to submit a printed boarding pass on your flight day, a print copy thereof will cost you $26,200 pesos for domestic flights per route and $16.50 dollars for international flights."
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2042033]I have to print it out-.
"Time to check-in online:
From 72 to 2 hours before the scheduled departure".
Where in Medellin am I going to be able to get to a printer. I will have my laptop but no printer.
Are there internet cafes with printers in Centro? (I didn't see any last time).
Don't know if Hotel Botero will let me back in their office to mess with their computers / printers.[/QUOTE]I've noticed papelerias with a few computers set up. Should be able to find one somewhere around centro.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2042065]Can't you send your boarding pass to your phone, iPad, laptop? Most airlines accept soft copies. You can also print it at the boarding gate. At least, that's the case with most airlines, all over the world.[/QUOTE]Both Spirit and Viva Colombia charge to print boarding passes. This lowers the cost for people who do it themselves.
For what it's worth. If you are checking in luggage they will print it gratis. At least Spirit did when I checked in my luggage.
Even the Centro love hotels have printers. Ask and you shall receive, worst case is you might have to hand over 5k or so.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2042065]Can't you send your boarding pass to your phone, iPad, laptop? Most airlines accept soft copies. You can also print it at the boarding gate. At least, that's the case with most airlines, all over the world.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2042058]I am not insisting. In fact, I agree knowing Spanish is an advantage. I am only objecting to reading it as often as I do here and seeing guys get hit over the head with it. It's common sense after all. Some guys don't have the ability or interest, it's up to them.[/QUOTE]Exactly. For a guy that hobbies a week or two a year, learning anything beyond basic Spanish probably wouldn't be time well-spent.
OTOH, I've met guys living in MDE and other Spanish-speaking locales that know very little Spanish. That is a shame and downright embarrassing.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2042033]I have to print it out-.
"Time to check-in online:
From 72 to 2 hours before the scheduled departure".
Where in Medellin am I going to be able to get to a printer. I will have my laptop but no printer.
Are there internet cafes with printers in Centro? (I didn't see any last time).
Don't know if Hotel Botero will let me back in their office to mess with their computers / printers.[/QUOTE]Time to check in online is 24 to 2 hours before departure.
Spirit won't charge you for not having printed boarding passes when leaving from Medellin.
I have flown out of Medellin dozens of times without printed boarding passes and never a charge.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2041996]Wendy with that beautiful face that I heard opened up a store and demi who had another kid. They been missing get for like two years. Any info on them if you rather PM me that is fine.[/QUOTE]Wendy just had a baby and lives in the USA Now.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2042033]I have to print it out-.
"Time to check-in online:
From 72 to 2 hours before the scheduled departure".
Where in Medellin am I going to be able to get to a printer. I will have my laptop but no printer.
Are there internet cafes with printers in Centro? (I didn't see any last time).
Don't know if Hotel Botero will let me back in their office to mess with their computers / printers.[/QUOTE]If you e-mail the pass to the hotel's front desk, they can print it for you without you messing with their stuff.
I hate everything about Spirit, except their schedule from the east coast of the USA.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2042077]Both Spirit and Viva Colombia charge to print boarding passes. This lowers the cost for people who do it themselves.
For what it's worth. If you are checking in luggage they will print it gratis. At least Spirit did when I checked in my luggage.[/QUOTE]
Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old? I haven't banged this chica (she's flaquita which is a turn off) but she won't leave me the fuck alone. I usually try to do one night with her and her friends at some club. I don't mind buying a bottle and enjoy the dancing and socializing.
She's been on my case almost a year now to go meet her family.
Isn't it a bit weird? I'm almost twice her age.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043204]Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old? I haven't banged this chica (she's flaquita which is a turn off) but she won't leave me the fuck alone. I usually try to do one night with her and her friends at some club. I don't mind buying a bottle and enjoy the dancing and socializing.
She's been on my case almost a year now to go meet her family.
Isn't it a bit weird? I'm almost twice her age.[/QUOTE]Nothing weird about it. Unless you haven't left the American value system behind. Where women are queens and think they deserve a guy that is more handsome than they are pretty.
Most hot Colombian women date down. Most colombianas are prettier than their boyfriends are handsome. What would be weird is if you were actually more handsome than she is pretty. LOL!
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043204]Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old?[/QUOTE]Not weird at all. I have told the story many times before of my exgirlfriend in Cali. We originally met in 2006. She was born in 1990. I was 34 that year. I told her hell no. Give me a call when you are 18. She protested saying her parents would not care. I said but I care. She called me on her 18th birthday. I would always go to Cali and her parents insist that I stay at their house instead of a hotel. Of course I had to sleep on the couch though. In the day her dad would go off to work and her mom stayed home with her sewing business. She would cook us three meals a day and sometimes we would go off to a motel saying we were going to the mall or movies or something.
It all fell apart when she wanted to get married without visiting my country first. No way I would uproot someone that did not speak English, could not drive, and had never been away from home before, without first testing the waters and giving them the survival skills they would need to live in a foreign country. She is now married to a guy her age from Cali and has one kid. We are still friends. She has invited me to come meet her new family but I always decline the invitation telling her if I go to Cali it will be to fuck and not just to meet and greet.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043204]Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old? I haven't banged this chica (she's flaquita which is a turn off) but she won't leave me the fuck alone. I usually try to do one night with her and her friends at some club. I don't mind buying a bottle and enjoy the dancing and socializing.
She's been on my case almost a year now to go meet her family.
Isn't it a bit weird? I'm almost twice her age.[/QUOTE]Bad idea if you don't like her. You visiting her family will only make her more clingy. You will become her boyfriend (in her mind). She will become possessive and super jealous. You are asking for trouble.
Tell her that you want to be friends only. With respect, thanks for the invitation to your house but I can't.
In Spanish---"La verdad es que quiero ser solamente amigos, nada mas. Con todo respeto, gracias por la invitacion a tu casa pero no puedo."
Just got back from Barre Exectiva followed by Fase II and Yakuza still has girls in the door, 2 am Fri night! Door man said open till 4 am!
Trip report on the other 2 to follow. Sleep now, bed at 1 am last night, up at 5:30 for drive to Miami airport from St Pete (3-1/2 hrs to get there, then 1 HR to go the last 15 miles in rian!) them flight to MED, then the Mr Toads Wild ride from the airport on the bus, then Barre Ex. + FaseII. 1/2 sandwich on ride down to MIA. So glad the restaurant around the corner is 24 h.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043204]Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old? I haven't banged this chica (she's flaquita which is a turn off) but she won't leave me the fuck alone. I usually try to do one night with her and her friends at some club. I don't mind buying a bottle and enjoy the dancing and socializing.
She's been on my case almost a year now to go meet her family.
Isn't it a bit weird? I'm almost twice her age.[/QUOTE]I'm 55. My roommate is 30 years younger than me. Her mother is younger than me. She does nude webcam modeling online, from our apartment and that's how I met her. Her family knows this. I've met them and it wasn't weird at all.
Her boyfriend is several years older than her and is one of her college professors. I've met him too. Her family loves him.
I'm sure it varies from family to family, but Colombian families view these things differently. Here, having friends of the opposite sex, in a different age bracket is not strange. Here it would be weird if a friend didn't meet the family.
But, there is always the question of her motive. Does she just try to socialize with you every time, or does she try to push you to fuck her? Is she constantly trying to get you to treat her like a novia, or does she just want to have fun?
If she treats you like a friend, she probably has told her family all about you and they want to meet the nice gringo friend. If she treats you like a boyfriend, she has probably told her family you are her boyfriend and they want to meet you.
The weird part is in your head. What you need to figure out is how the girl sees you. Are you just a fun friend? Are you a potential sugardaddy? Are you boyfriend or husband material?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2043361]But, there is always the question of her motive. Does she just try to socialize with you every time, or does she try to push you to fuck her? Is she constantly trying to get you to treat her like a novia, or does she just want to have fun?[/QUOTE]She's 21 and doesn't know what the fuck she wants to do like a lot of 21 year olds. Like many young Paisas she sees what it's like to have a foreign friend to party with so she always keeps in touch and comes out for fun when I'm in town. I think she has already told the friends she brings out with her that I'm off limits to them. Then you have the usual bullshit: "pero ella mujer mala" whenever I ask about one of her big butt friends.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2043361]If she treats you like a friend, she probably has told her family all about you and they want to meet the nice gringo friend. If she treats you like a boyfriend, she has probably told her family you are her boyfriend and they want to meet you.[/QUOTE]Yes, because I told her there was no way in hell I'm having a serious relationship right now.
[QUOTE]The weird part is in your head. What you need to figure out is how the girl sees you. Are you just a fun friend? Are you a potential sugardaddy? Are you boyfriend or husband material?[/QUOTE]I don't think she even knows. She usually has something important to tell me when I'm in town and I do my best to avoid that fucking conversation. These twenty something year old Paisas are mostly the same. 1,000+ facebook friends. Snapping photos like mad when I take them somewhere nice they couldn't possibly afford. Constantly trying to tag themselves in any photos I post in fb. But damn do they dress up and look great in the photos. I'll take them to a club with 30-50 k drinks in El Poblado and they will literally sit there for the first ten minutes snapping photos and sending them everywhere. It's hilarious.
Still I'm interested in seeing the farm and her family. Meeting Colombians my age tends to go pretty well for me and gives me a mature conversation that doesn't involve listening to some young woman talk about how badly she wants to move to the US, or how I should really take her on a vacation.
Pass. She is a drunk. She is fun to hang out with. Will talk and sing classic American songs. But when it comes down to performance, she does not deliver much. She doesn't even fake it. And if you let her drink too much, she'll just pass out on your. Her taxi is going to be 40-50 mil roundtrip, so you are in for 250 mil. You can get much better much cheaper. Don't waste your time.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2041953]Anybody bite? Seems pretty cute.
She quotes 200 plus taxis.
Sounds like all star performance rates.[/QUOTE]
The family will likely have no issue with your age. My ex-wife (from Bogota) was 14 years younger than me. I have been to the home of a 25 year old and a 20 year old and a 21 year old. I have had lunch with a 19 year old and her mom. The family was nothing but nice and treated me great. Age did not seem to be a factor. And if it was. It was a positive factor. I am 51, I am more than twice the age of all of these girls.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2043204]Quick question. How weird, culturally would it be in Medellin for a man in his late 30's to meet the family of a twenty two year old? I haven't banged this chica (she's flaquita which is a turn off) but she won't leave me the fuck alone. I usually try to do one night with her and her friends at some club. I don't mind buying a bottle and enjoy the dancing and socializing.
She's been on my case almost a year now to go meet her family.
Isn't it a bit weird? I'm almost twice her age.[/QUOTE]
Fri night, me & wingman SandStorm from USASG walked to be. E. Around 8 ish from Hotel Botero, 20+ girls with more arriving every minute, mostly 6 & 7's, a few 8's.
Picked a Venezuelan girl, nice bod, typical long black hair, banging bod, 90,000 p, had only done take out there before. Was weird to walk into the men{s room, into a stall, through the little hatch then up the spiral. Room was way to dark and way to hot for my taste. We were just waiting till FaseII got busy anyway. Cab there, 10 pm, 20+ girls, 5 dudes, all cute girls, lots of 8's a few 9's. By 11-12 ish I counted 60 girls and a full house of dudes, picked a smoking hot blond Barbie type, she was full, rooms were much nicer and cooler. 1st time trying out the Kimono extra thin condoms. Dam thing broke, I mean shredded like a blow out, we didn't notice till after. Ouch, she was NOT happy, ran for bathroom and a douche, tipped her heavy on her request / demand (they were my condoms that broke so I felt bad) Got her number, she was a Goddess with her clothes off, and not the over done butt job either, I think just a smoking hot breast job, name Allison, got her #.
I was very impressed with their lineup, there was a easy dozen there I was dying to try, had target saturation for awhile. Didn't see any I wouldn't do either, not a fat chick in the house. And all types from 100% natural to 100% plastic barbies. Will repeat, cost more but worth it I thought.
10 k at the door, 190 k for the girl, SandStorm bless his heart got the bar tab. We just ordered a small bottle Aquadiente and girls drinks.
And about $66 for a 9+ hottie was fine by me.
Hit the redlight blocks in Centro this morning, I found a cute spinner for 30 k in the VeraCruz block and Sandstorm found a bodacious one for 40 k in the Raudal block, he said she was up for anything. LOL.
That is correct, Yakuza is open until 4 am In fact, they really only close for six hours or so in the early morning. Of course, the selection is not as good in off hours but it will do in a pinch. The prices stay the same so it's a low cost alternative to the Maracaibo strip clubs.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2043270]Just got back from Barre Exectiva followed by Fase II and Yakuza still has girls in the door, 2 am Fri night! Door man said open till 4 am!
Trip report on the other 2 to follow. Sleep now, bed at 1 am last night, up at 5:30 for drive to Miami airport from St Pete (3-1/2 hrs to get there, then 1 HR to go the last 15 miles in rian!) them flight to MED, then the Mr Toads Wild ride from the airport on the bus, then Barre Ex. + FaseII. 1/2 sandwich on ride down to MIA. So glad the restaurant around the corner is 24 h.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2041953]Anybody bite? Seems pretty cute.
She quotes 200 plus taxis.
Sounds like all star performance rates.[/QUOTE]Can't say how she is in the sack. But she is definitely fun to party with.
I was in Lleras with a friend and she hit me up on facebook. I told her I was at Gustos with a friend if she wanted to stop by and have a drink.
She says OK and tells me she is bringing a girlfriend with her.
We all hung out for a couple of hours drinking and dancing. She tried to talk me into a threesome. Told her I don't really get into threesomes and she just let it go.
When it was time to leave I took her girlfriend back to by place. No issues, no drama, no crying on her part. Didn't try to cock block me or anything.
Chick is totally cool. And her friends are hot as hell.
My girlfriend and I haven't been to Medellin in about 10 years and are planning to return in September. We typically like to visit strip clubs where we can find a chica and take her back to our hotel room for a threesome. Can anyone recommend a girl-friendly, very nice hotel to stay at and what the best part of town is for the above?
Thanks for any suggestions.
[QUOTE=JimmyDi;2043486]My girlfriend and I haven't been to Medellin in about 10 years and are planning to return in September. We typically like to visit strip clubs where we can find a chica and take her back to our hotel room for a threesome. Can anyone recommend a girl-friendly, very nice hotel to stay at and what the best part of town is for the above?
Thanks for any suggestions.[/QUOTE]The best area of town is Poblado. I just did a review of Hotel Porton Medellin in the Medellin Hotels section. They hold the guest's cedula and issue a hotel IS. The rooms are great. Right across Avenida Poblado from Santa Fe mall.
Good call on the threesome. But what you would have gotten is alternating between the two. Enlly and her friends to do not do lesbo stuff together (Enlly's choice. Some of her friend are bi).
While I am sure she would have liked the money, you gave her what she wanted the most. Free alcohol. She is a true alcoholic and booze is more important to her than anything. I know her well. In addition, since she made the contact, she probably got her friend to pay her a commission. That's how it works.
So everybody (you, Enlly, and he friend) got what they wanted and were happy. Can't ask for much more.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2043472]
She says OK and tells me she is bringing a girlfriend with her.
We all hung out for a couple of hours drinking and dancing. She tried to talk me into a threesome. Told her I don't really get into threesomes and she just let it go.
When it was time to leave I took her girlfriend back to by place. No issues, no drama, no crying on her part. Didn't try to cock block me or anything.
Chick is totally cool. And her friends are hot as hell.[/QUOTE]
I was in Medellin this week on a business trip and took advantage to get in some hobbying. As I only had evenings free, I hit up Energy, my go-to spot in the city. Prices haven't changed since my last visit in December; still 140 K for one hour. The lineup was good; about 10 chicas including a number of 8's and 9's. I sessioned twice with Julieta, a gorgeous Negra who I'd had fun with on a previous visit. She really gets into the action and is very responsive if you treat her right. On my third visit this week Julieta was off for the day so I selected Samantha, a youngish Morena with a cute smile and curly black hair. She is not quite a spinner but has a thin build with teacup sized breasts and a nice ass. Service was excellent, almost GFE. After I coaxed two O's from her through about 15 minutes of DATY I was rewarded with an awesome (and unsolicited) BBBJ (only the 2nd Energy chica from whom I've gotten an uncovered BJ, the other being Julieta). FS was great as well. Multple positions, finishing in K9 with a round of 69 thrown in. I hope she's still around next time I visit.
I think he asked for the best part of town for picking up a girl to participate in a threesome with his girlfriend. That is probably not Poblado but I suppose it depends on what kind of girl they want.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2043497]The best area of town is Poblado. I just did a review of Hotel Porton Medellin in the Medellin Hotels section. They hold the guest's cedula and issue a hotel IS. The rooms are great. Right across Avenida Poblado from Santa Fe mall.[/QUOTE]
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Sat night my sweetie / Goddess from Conejitas that I met last time came over at 6, we took SandStorm over to her club around 8 to hook him up for TLN, we got the AllStar treatment with her, right this way to the only open table, all the staff came over and made nice.
40+ girls working, top 5 smoke hot Doll House material, he had her call several over for interviews. Picked a good one, sweet and super hot,300,000 TLN GFE, plus 50 k fine to leave club, we went to Parque Boston for drinks, food & temp tattoos. LOL.
Back to hotel drunk as Lords, next AM took them both up the Metro cable car to Parque Arvi, rented boars on the lakes etc. Just got back, she's crashed for now, Sandstorms girlie had to jet.
So I twisted SandStorms arm to go a block to Barre Exectiva again, 11 ish.
Maybe 15-20 girls on, top 5 all super doable, had to pick between a 18 yo spinner who was super cute and a silicone Goddess, Sarah, went with her, 80,000 p on site she was a tiger in bed and lots of enthusiasm. Got her #, may meet tomorrow night after my honey goes home.
Nice trip so far, still love Centro. Now I have to sneak back to bed. LOL.
My girl finally woke, cafe con leche & some breakfast at Brase Pan, went shopping, bought her some luggage, she's going to St Martin to work.
Then we went through the Palacio de la Cultura Rafael Uribe Uribe, free and good photo ops for the hottie who loves having her picture taken, surprise. (she is extremely photogenic though).
Back to the hotel, beer on the roof top bar, more bedroom fun, then she jetted around 2. Hit the VeraCruz block, nothing I liked for 30 k, went to Raudal redlight block, several choices, 3 boppers who wanted 150 k for all three, or 100/2 or 50/1 before bartering, I didn't bargain with them but seemed too young no matter what their ID said, went with a silicone barbie instead, mid 20's, long black hair (I know, surprise, right?) real cute face and huge bolt on FR / rr for $65 k, didn't bargain. Real pretty face.
May go see her again tomorrow, Named Jimena, stands in doorway to a nicer short term love hotel, just West of Carr 54 on Calle 53, avenida De Greiff, NW corner.
WhatsApp my hottie from Barre Excetiva last night, figure dinner, drinks then 3 the Suites Love motel for a Jacuzzi. Anybody been there, is it as nice as the pics?
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It was the 3 spinners or the silicone princess. I prefer not have to check ID cause it might be fake anyway so silicone won out. Mid 20's at least.
I am new to the forum. Just got back from 5 days in Bogota and 6 in Medellin.
I met up with Enlly twice while I was in Medellin. Pretty much spot on with what was said about her. I had a great time with her but it was a tad bit of a hassle to meet up with her. She flaked on me first night, said she was drinking too much. And then another night her mom said she couldn't go out because she came home drunk at 8 Am that morning. She probably just lined up another date.
That being said the 2 sessions that I had with her were great. Both times we hung out for a few hours. She is a fun girl and loves to drink. First thing she did when she got to my hotel was ask for a drink. She ordered 2 drinks and we went the room.
Thanks for all the maps are reviews from everyone about Colombia. The information was greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044350]It was the 3 spinners or the silicone princess. I prefer not have to check ID cause it might be fake anyway so silicone won out. Mid 20's at least.[/QUOTE]Raudl area? The scary place? The silicone girl looks great man. 65 k is a bargain! I'm 100% hitting up that corner when I head back.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2044360]Raudl area? The scary place? The silicone girl looks great man. 65 k is a bargain! I'm 100% hitting up that corner when I head back.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've added that to the circuit before dark weekdays.
After the silicone barbie in Raudal, quick shower at hotel, back to Vera Cruz looking for a 18+ spinner to round out the set.
Sarah, said 50,000 but quickly dropped to 30 k and allowed for a pic or two.
Now to get ready for the night on the town. LOL.
If my Barbie from last night, (also Sarah) blows me off I will go back to her club for some takeout, Barre Exectiva.
[QUOTE=SaraHate;2044357]I am new to the forum. Just got back from 5 days in Bogota and 6 in Medellin.
I met up with Enlly twice while I was in Medellin. Pretty much spot on with what was said about her. I had a great time with her but it was a tad bit of a hassle to meet up with her. She flaked on me first night, said she was drinking too much. And then another night her mom said she couldn't go out because she came home drunk at 8 Am that morning. She probably just lined up another date.
That being said the 2 sessions that I had with her were great. Both times we hung out for a few hours. She is a fun girl and loves to drink. First thing she did when she got to my hotel was ask for a drink. She ordered 2 drinks and we went the room.
Thanks for all the maps are reviews from everyone about Colombia. The information was greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I'm headed down to COL in late July for the first time. Which city did you prefer Bog or MDE?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044350]It was the 3 spinners or the silicone princess. I prefer not have to check ID cause it might be fake anyway so silicone won out. Mid 20's at least.[/QUOTE]Come on mannnn. You are going to have these guys trying to leave their safe space and jacking up the prices of our drugged out skanky chicks. Guys don't listen to Wolf. It is much too dangerous to go there, even without your iphone. What you do not know is right after he took these pictures a crackhead took his phone and posted the report for him.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2044435]Come on mannnn. You are going to have these guys trying to leave their safe space and jacking up the prices of our drugged out skanky chicks. Guys don't listen to Wolf. It is much too dangerous to go there, even without your iphone.[/QUOTE]I am giving it two weeks before we have a post of someone getting mugged there. Although you make a good point. All those chicas look a bit unhealthy. Even the big breasted one.
Maybe this will help. Those girls cost 10,000 pesos less than a 30 minute session in a casa. At New Life you can hurry and pay 30 K for a 15 minute rate. Why deal with what's in the picture once you experience the "off the beaten track" thrill one time?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2044437]I am giving it two weeks before we have a post of someone getting mugged there. Although you make a good point. All those chicas look a bit unhealthy. Even the big breasted one.[/QUOTE]
Around 8 Mon night I did a BarreEx, Mariciabo, Conejitas run, each had at least one hot one. Maricabo actually had the edge for once, bunch cute 18+ spinner bebopping stoners and one silicone Venezuelan. Picked her. Paid her club fee to leave -60 k I think and gave her 300 k for TLN. Woops. Went well for awhile, has a smoken hot tight body with a super flat stomach and nice bolt ONS. I believe a Bolivian Marching Powder issue there. Loves Pink Floyd. Was super GFE, gave me a scalp massage, a back massage with oil, danced with me, gave me a lap dance, jumped in shower and got going, very fun, "Harder-deeper!" kinda gal.
We take a break 12 ish and that's when it goes sideways. Has no phone or ID. Uses my phone to WhatsApp her daughter, I thought in Venz.
Then she says her 15 yo daughter has no where to stay and she was otw. I said no way that was possible, no minor in my room, uh-uh, she can't rent a room for her either because no ID and I said no way I was renting a room for her in my name. So she left with her and promised to come back tomorrow but not sure I want her to now, I like a low drama vacation and super hot homeless Venez. Chicks and their daughters are not on the list.
And I knew she was the crazy type but sometimes I like that. On super hot ones.
My hottie from the night before Sarah from be. E. WhatsApp'ed me tomorrow was better for her so I think I'll do that.
I think many of them are worth it. YMMV. All pictures taken by me this week. Using sunglasses with built in vid.
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that Centro can be hazardous to your health. 3rd world comfortable with good Spanish skills a requirement as the ability to avoid muggings and drunk Colombians.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2044437]I am giving it two weeks before we have a post of someone getting mugged there. Although you make a good point. All those chicas look a bit unhealthy. Even the big breasted one.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the "girl" in the blue, on the left of the picture with the three "girls" in it, is a guy! That little black throat choker thing is to hide his Adam's apple! It's a good thing you chose the silicone queen!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2044602]Not to mention the "girl" in the blue, on the left of the picture with the three "girls" in it, is a guy! That little black throat choker thing is to hide his Adams apple! It's a good thing you chose the silicone queen![/QUOTE]Maybe she was just cold on her neck that day.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044350]It was the 3 spinners or the silicone princess. I prefer not have to check ID cause it might be fake anyway so silicone won out. Mid 20's at least.[/QUOTE]I like the one in the photo with the silicone queen. The silicone queen is a little too thick for me.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2044638]I like the one in the photo with the silicone queen. The silicone queen is a little too thick for me.[/QUOTE]Yeah I almost went that way but the cleavage spoke to me. LOL.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2044450]Maybe this will help. Those girls cost 10,000 pesos less than a 30 minute session in a casa. At New Life you can hurry and pay 30 K for a 15 minute rate. Why deal with what's in the picture once you experience the "off the beaten track" thrill one time?[/QUOTE]Some prefer to stalk our prey in the wild, canned hunts don't do much for me. But might make it over to New Life today anyway.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044515]Around 8 Mon night I did a BarreEx, Mariciabo, Conejitas run, each had at least one hot one. Maricabo actually had the edge for once, bunch cute 18+ spinner bebopping stoners and one silicone Venezuelan. Picked her. Paid her club fee to leave -60 k I think and gave her 300 k for TLN. Woops. Went well for awhile, has a smoken hot tight body with a super flat stomach and nice bolt ONS. I believe a Bolivian Marching Powder issue there. Loves Pink Floyd. Was super GFE, gave me a scalp massage, a back massage with oil, danced with me, gave me a lap dance, jumped in shower and got going, very fun, "Harder-deeper!" kinda gal.
We take a break 12 ish and that's when it goes sideways. Has no phone or ID. Uses my phone to WhatsApp her daughter, I thought in Venz.
Then she says her 15 yo daughter has no where to stay and she was otw. I said no way that was possible, no minor in my room, uh-uh, she can't rent a room for her either because no ID and I said no way I was renting a room for her in my name. So she left with her and promised to come back tomorrow but not sure I want her to now, I like a low drama vacation and super hot homeless Venez. Chicks and their daughters are not on the list.
And I knew she was the crazy type but sometimes I like that. On super hot ones.
My hottie from the night before Sarah from be. E. WhatsApp'ed me tomorrow was better for her so I think I'll do that.[/QUOTE]Great thinking!! DAMN that could have turned bad QUICK!!
LAtely I have been hitting the desperate vnz chicas myself. Such cuties, all bolt ONS. Its like the surgeon there has one setting the!
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044517]I think many of them are worth it. YMMV. All pictures taken by me this week. Using sunglasses with built in vid.
WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that Centro can be hazardous to your health. 3rd world comfortable with good Spanish skills a requirement as the ability to avoid muggings and drunk Colombians.[/QUOTE]How are you finding the other Colombians? Lots of locals picking up girls? Were you harassed any?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2044711]How are you finding the other Colombians? Lots of locals picking up girls? Were you harassed any?[/QUOTE]No I seem to be the only shopper when I walk thru and I am basically ignored by the male locals, thank you Jeebuz.
I still feel safer in the Vera Cruz block, less locals loitering.
But so far the hottest women have been in the Centro strip clubs & FaseII and that's including New Life which I just returned from. Went in Chica Punta's too, saw one hot flaquita there I liked, looked to be 80 lbs wet. Did a New Life spinner who was fun, Rachel.
Her ass looks fake. Is it fake?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044377]After the silicone barbie in Raudal, quick shower at hotel, back to Vera Cruz looking for a 18+ spinner to round out the set.
Sarah, said 50,000 but quickly dropped to 30 k and allowed for a pic or two.
Now to get ready for the night on the town. LOL.
If my Barbie from last night, (also Sarah) blows me off I will go back to her club for some takeout, Barre Exectiva.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044350]It was the 3 spinners or the silicone princess. I prefer not have to check ID cause it might be fake anyway so silicone won out. Mid 20's at least.[/QUOTE]That thick chica with the glasses is hot. Got her number?
After New Life we did a souvenir run on Junin St. Then back to hotel, crazy Venz hottie calls and has left some stuff in my room, come over with the daughter, me and Sand Storm take them to lunch then I give both of them my blessing and SS does a session with her (with mom, daughter took off thank god).
I hit the VeraCruz block, not much, leaving for Raudal when my little redlight spinner Sara come up the block, see me and runs and jumps on me while squealing. LOL She looks hotter then the day before and is a real sweetheart, I say lets go to my hotel. I give her 60 k and she proceeds with 4 hrs of mind blowing fun, included about a HR going down on her while she insists I pinch her nips hard and take them in circles, she has the hottest tattoo over her V and wings on her back. The sex was the best of the trip up to this point. I end up giving her 150 k (she didn't ask) we ordered Subway delivered, it was really good. Although she was sparking up a lot.
She has kids, has to be home by 10, so I WhatsUp Sarah one from Barre Exectiva, she says she can be over by 10:30. Yea!
She shows up looking mind blowing hot and puts the other girl to shame, cum during sex, cum during titty fuck, and then a BBBJCIM, 1st of trip, also lots of deep french kissing and DATY. She stayed till about 2 am, have to get up for the bus at 5 am for airport run, ouch-.
2 pics of sara 2's tattoos and 2 of Sarah 1.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2044893]That thick chica with the glasses is hot. Got her number?[/QUOTE]No, but easy to find with my directions I posted, she starts at 10 am she said.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2044450]Maybe this will help. Those girls cost 10,000 pesos less than a 30 minute session in a casa. At New Life you can hurry and pay 30 K for a 15 minute rate. Why deal with what's in the picture once you experience the "off the beaten track" thrill one time?[/QUOTE]In my case I like more then a "Hola" and a handshake to gauge how compatible we are and I can lean on the wall next to the street chicks and talk them up a bit. I have better luck that way. My Centro street girl Sara is tied for 1st place with the other Sarah from BarreEx. For best GFE nymphomaniac with skills and ultra cool attitude.
YMMV, I do speak fluent Spanish.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2044886]Her ass looks fake. Is it fake?[/QUOTE]The little spinner Sara or the barbie with the glasses?
[QUOTE=Queens35;2044893]That thick chica with the glasses is hot. Got her number?[/QUOTE]She looked pretty good undressed too.
What hunt, do you imagine you could be turned down? It's not a nightclub, Raudal and Veracruz are open air casas after all.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2044673]Some prefer to stalk our prey in the wild, canned hunts don't do much for me. But might make it over to New Life today anyway.[/QUOTE].
Both my best times this last week were with 2 girls on my 2nd time with them.
Sarah was a tiger at Barre Exectiva but was way better the 2nd time at my hotel with unasked for BBBJCIM, deep french etc, and Sara was a normal street girl the 1st time in the short term hotel but the 2nd time at my hotel was 10 x better and 10 x longer and more passionate and demanding I do this or that to her. Yes they got paid more for the 2nd time (but Sara only thought she was getting 60 k, I bumped the amount myself after the 4 hrs) which I am sure helped but I think the no rush atmosphere with music / youtube / drinks / food / smoke helps a lot too.
I bring a 17" laptop and speakers and they love to YouTube some of their fav songs and dance. Vodka and rum in the room helps too. LOL. I also brought some gifts this time which seems to help get you over the top.
She was fun, a to be cup spinner with good attitude.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2045253]What hunt, do you imagine you could be turned down? It's not a nightclub, Raudal and Veracruz are open air casas after all..[/QUOTE]The having to find them instead of them paraded in a line by me for 3 seconds.
No I didn't talk to her but she was a very cute chick. Sad to see her fry her brain like that.
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2041953]Anybody bite? Seems pretty cute.
She quotes 200 plus taxis.
Sounds like all star performance rates.[/QUOTE]Enlly is a good friend to have. She knows a lot of prepagos in Medellin. She is super friendly and has a great smile. I haven't fucked her even though I partied with her in Manrique on several occasions. Two friends who have fucked her said she was a good lay. One said she has a really tight pussy. A lot of her friends are bisexual and will do threesomes. She and her friends will drink bottle after bottle of JP chenet.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2044437]I am giving it two weeks before we have a post of someone getting mugged there.[/QUOTE]I doubt victims take the time to report here.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2045253]What hunt, do you imagine you could be turned down? It's not a nightclub, Raudal and Veracruz are open air casas after all..[/QUOTE]He wants to chat with the girls and feel out chemistry. Typically in Casas you don't get that. I think that's what he meant by 'hunt. '.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2045393]He wants to chat with the girls and feel out chemistry. Typically in Casas you don't get that. I think that's what he meant by 'hunt. '.[/QUOTE]I think he literally means to hunt. If you are going to the casas en el centro. 90 percent of the time you can't find anything you'd actually want to fuck. I mean pay to fuck.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045294]No I didn't talk to her but she was a very cute chick. Sad to see her fry her brain like that.[/QUOTE]Do you think some of those other chicas you did bang were also glue sniffers?
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2045500]Do you think some of those other chicas you did bang were also glue sniffers?[/QUOTE]No, bright eyed and bushy tailed pot smokers mostly. LOL. The glue huffers seem mostly in front of the church, my girls all came from the street behind it.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2045484]I think he literally means to hunt. If you are going to the casas en el centro. 90 percent of the time you can't find anything you'd actually want to fuck. I mean pay to fuck.[/QUOTE]It's both, gauging chemistry and the hunt, stalking the mean streets of Centro at all hours has some danger, certainly more then a taxi from the mansion to New Life and back. Plus you see more of the city and her people. A midnight walk to and from Conejitas, Barre Exectiva and Maracaibo is not for everyone though but I like it.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045260]She was fun, a to be cup spinner with good attitude.[/QUOTE]Actually I think her name was "Judy".
I came home with 47 gigs of vid / photos, make take awhile to shift through it all.
Exactly. I'm sorry to say I know of at least one such case.
On the other hand, I've also seen government tourism guides directing visiting groups behind Veracruz and warning them about age of consent. Veracruz is on the tour group route like Junin. It's kind of fun to watch the guys trying to sneak looks at the chicas without their companions noticing.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2045361]I doubt victims take the time to report here.[/QUOTE]
Try Zandaly, you can sit at the bar and chat for hours if you want. In fact, you can talk to every girl one by one. It's different than the others where, I agree, the lineup goes by with a quick handshake and Hello,.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2045393]He wants to chat with the girls and feel out chemistry. Typically in Casas you don't get that. I think that's what he meant by 'hunt. '.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2045605]Try Zandaly, you can sit at the bar and chat for hours if you want. In fact, you can talk to every girl one by one. It's different than the others where, I agree, the lineup goes by with a quick handshake and Hello,.[/QUOTE]I'll check it out. I mostly did Chicas Puntos because it seemed to be the only casa willing to stock up on big butt, LOL.
Wolf, did you share drinks with the chicas behind Vera Cruz? Anyway, I'll be there in a couple of weeks and will pretty much be 10 am to 3 pm every day in centro checking out the scene for a week. Already ordered a cheap phone to as I gave away my last one to a Colombian waiter who needed a phone.
I know 'shapshot 2', good worker.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045546]I came home with 47 gigs of vid / photos, make take awhile to shift through it all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2045615]I'll check it out. I mostly did Chicas Puntos because it seemed to be the only casa willing to stock up on big butt, LOL.
Wolf, did you share drinks with the chicas behind Vera Cruz? Anyway, I'll be there in a couple of weeks and will pretty much be 10 am to 3 pm every day in centro checking out the scene for a week. Already ordered a cheap phone to as I gave away my last one to a Colombian waiter who needed a phone.[/QUOTE]I don't drink much, esp in the day walking around Centro, kept meaning to party with some of them, just the one though, Sara, took her up to my room and partied, she was way more fun there. Some times Raudal had the edge but mostly Carr 53 behind the Church.
Sara.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2045605]Try Zandaly, you can sit at the bar and chat for hours if you want. In fact, you can talk to every girl one by one. It's different than the others where, I agree, the lineup goes by with a quick handshake and Hello,.[/QUOTE]Cool, I'll try Zandaly next time, at night the strip clubs work for me but they don't open till after 4, 5 for Conejitas and 9 for FaseII.
Hey so I'm turning to the forms because I'm caught.
Backstory. Saw her last year, she was a semi who we had a great great time together. College girl, not a real pro but does it to get clothes, phones while still gong to school. (she actually goes, I visted her there).
So She quit in the begining of the year, changed her number and gave me her new one, and all her social media links (private ones in her inner circle of friends).
I come visit her recently, before I arrive I ask her how much for her time. She makes a remark like "oh what you think I'm going to be your ****! And caught me off gaurd. I later find out she is more joking. But anyway.
I arrive and I see her first thing, she comes over and says she does not want any money because it is really weird to take it from me. We have a great vibe, the things sexually we do together is in the top 3 best of my life, maybe #1. We bone, no protection. (I never do this, maybe 4 girls in my life).
I ask her to come another time, let me meet her friends. I make everyone dinner we hang, she even tells me not to to tell her friend how we met. (it's very discreet).
We spend pretty much the entire time I am there together. She is super intelligent and we have a similar family background and causes a further connection between us. I further our bond and I creampie with her (she is on the pill and lets me know before hand, she also alludes to not wanting kids now etc).
So I guess I am feeling very special. She really isn't nomrally this much into gringos and what is amazing is, she actually shows up on time when she is suppose to be there. No flaking, no faking, all honesty.
Now at the time she states to me she quit and she did it for about 8 months. She doesn't see herself gooing back.
I leave and I've been gone for about 2 months or so. We are in contact everyday, social media, video, whatsapp, email everything. I know her friends, tye know me.
She did say she was having fun with me but was really enjoying the connection and all that.
I started lurking the prepago sites and looking to see if there was any ads that looked like her. Sure enough I found one that MAY look like her. I could not confirm.
I videoed with her, whatsapped from another whatsapp foreigh phone and called while I was on the phone with her. It rang. Damm 2nd phone, it's her.
During that video chat I was able to get it out that she was working again. But the thing is, the way she told me first she "didn't want to talk about it" but she said "oh I stopped because it was to much and I was tired and I needed a break".
The thing is, she is honest with me because I look for her new number and reversed all the other ads and she really only started up again recently.
The truth is, she says she doesn't trust men and no matter what she wil think I am fucking other girls. She has a point and you know what (I totoally lied, I banged while I was there but not while back) But there is SOMETHING!!
I want her to really fall in love with me. I am going to take her on a plane somewhere soon.
Guys, I know I am talking crazy right now. I need someone to make sense of all this. Also she really does not have the typcial prepago body. No surgery all natural etc. I want to get her.
I know there is part of me that deep down just wants her to open up and be in love. Maybe it is a game, maybe it is my ego.
In which our Hero meets a Fairy Princess named Sara. LOL.
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[QUOTE=BlueChange;2045960]I want her to really fall in love with me. I am going to take her on a plane somewhere soon.
Guys, I know I am talking crazy right now. I need someone to make sense of all this. Also she really does not have the typcial prepago body. No surgery all natural etc. I want to get her.
I know there is part of me that deep down just wants her to open up and be in love. Maybe it is a game, maybe it is my ego.[/QUOTE]Do it. Have fun. Just remember to set your expectations to conform with reality and you won't be disappointed.
If the pussy is free and its bareback the only issue you could have is her deciding not to take her pills and carrying your baby. Watch out for that. I almost had that happen to me (then she did it to another guy and actually had his baby).
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2045960]Hey so I'm turning to the forms because I'm caught.
Backstory. Saw her last year, she was a semi who we had a great great time together. College girl, not a real pro but does it to get clothes, phones while still gong to school. (she actually goes, I visted her there).
So She quit in the begining of the year, changed her number and gave me her new one, and all her social media links (private ones in her inner circle of friends).
I come visit her recently, before I arrive I ask her how much for her time. She makes a remark like "oh what you think I'm going to be your ****! And caught me off gaurd. I later find out she is more joking. But anyway.
I arrive and I see her first thing, she comes over and says she does not want any money because it is really weird to take it from me. We have a great vibe, the things sexually we do together is in the top 3 best of my life, maybe #1. We bone, no protection. (I never do this, maybe 4 girls in my life).
I ask her to come another time, let me meet her friends. I make everyone dinner we hang, she even tells me not to to tell her friend how we met. (it's very discreet).
We spend pretty much the entire time I am there together. She is super intelligent and we have a similar family background and causes a further connection between us. I further our bond and I creampie with her (she is on the pill and lets me know before hand, she also alludes to not wanting kids now etc).
So I guess I am feeling very special. She really isn't nomrally this much into gringos and what is amazing is, she actually shows up on time when she is suppose to be there. No flaking, no faking, all honesty.
Now at the time she states to me she quit and she did it for about 8 months. She doesn't see herself gooing back.
I leave and I've been gone for about 2 months or so. We are in contact everyday, social media, video, whatsapp, email everything. I know her friends, tye know me.
She did say she was having fun with me but was really enjoying the connection and all that.
I started lurking the prepago sites and looking to see if there was any ads that looked like her. Sure enough I found one that MAY look like her. I could not confirm.
I videoed with her, whatsapped from another whatsapp foreigh phone and called while I was on the phone with her. It rang. Damm 2nd phone, it's her.
During that video chat I was able to get it out that she was working again. But the thing is, the way she told me first she "didn't want to talk about it" but she said "oh I stopped because it was to much and I was tired and I needed a break".
The thing is, she is honest with me because I look for her new number and reversed all the other ads and she really only started up again recently.
The truth is, she says she doesn't trust men and no matter what she wil think I am fucking other girls. She has a point and you know what (I totoally lied, I banged while I was there but not while back) But there is SOMETHING!!
I want her to really fall in love with me. I am going to take her on a plane somewhere soon.
Guys, I know I am talking crazy right now. I need someone to make sense of all this. Also she really does not have the typcial prepago body. No surgery all natural etc. I want to get her.
I know there is part of me that deep down just wants her to open up and be in love. Maybe it is a game, maybe it is my ego.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're just thinking with your dick.
You say she lied to you and then say she's honest with you. She was honest with you after you caught her in a lie. Maybe you are the only guy she barebacks with and maybe that creampie contains 4 different sources of DNA. Maybe she's on the pill and maybe next time you visit she needs money for her little gringo fetus.
When she looks at you she sees one of two things. You're either a gorgeous stud that puts all the local guys to shame or you're a fat paycheck waiting to be cashed. Take a long look in the mirror and decide which.
Enjoy the sex, enjoy the experiences, but don't take a prepago home to meet mommy and daddy.
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2045960]Hey so I'm turning to the forms because I'm caught.
We bone, no protection. (I never do this, maybe 4 girls in my life).
We spend pretty much the entire time I am there together. She is super intelligent and we have a similar family background and causes a further connection between us. I further our bond and I creampie with her (she is on the pill and lets me know before hand, she also alludes to not wanting kids now etc).
[/QUOTE]Be careful amigo, I had a similar situation 9 years ago with a girl and now I am the father of an 8 year old Colombiana.
That is some tough love right there.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2045970]Maybe you're just thinking with your dick.
You say she lied to you and then say she's honest with you. She was honest with you after you caught her in a lie. Maybe you are the only guy she barebacks with and maybe that creampie contains 4 different sources of DNA. Maybe she's on the pill and maybe next time you visit she needs money for her little gringo fetus.
When she looks at you she sees one of two things. You're either a gorgeous stud that puts all the local guys to shame or you're a fat paycheck waiting to be cashed. Take a long look in the mirror and decide which.
Enjoy the sex, enjoy the experiences, but don't take a prepago home to meet mommy and daddy.[/QUOTE]
Well, unfortunately, an unwanted child is not the only issue you could encounter from bareback sex. For me, it would not be the worst issue either. I wish you good luck and clean lab results.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2045967]Do it. Have fun. Just remember to set your expectations to conform with reality and you won't be disappointed.
If the pussy is free and its bareback the only issue you could have is her deciding not to take her pills and carrying your baby. Watch out for that. I almost had that happen to me (then she did it to another guy and actually had his baby).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2045960]Hey so I'm turning to the forms because I'm caught.
Backstory. Saw her last year, she was a semi who we had a great great time together. College girl, not a real pro but does it to get clothes, phones while still gong to school. (she actually goes, I visted her there).
So She quit in the begining of the year, changed her number and gave me her new one, and all her social media links (private ones in her inner circle of friends).
I come visit her recently, before I arrive I ask her how much for her time. She makes a remark like "oh what you think I'm going to be your ****! And caught me off gaurd. I later find out she is more joking. But anyway.
I arrive and I see her first thing, she comes over and says she does not want any money because it is really weird to take it from me. We have a great vibe, the things sexually we do together is in the top 3 best of my life, maybe #1. We bone, no protection. (I never do this, maybe 4 girls in my life).
I ask her to come another time, let me meet her friends. I make everyone dinner we hang, she even tells me not to to tell her friend how we met. (it's very discreet).
We spend pretty much the entire time I am there together. She is super intelligent and we have a similar family background and causes a further connection between us. I further our bond and I creampie with her (she is on the pill and lets me know before hand, she also alludes to not wanting kids now etc).
So I guess I am feeling very special. She really isn't nomrally this much into gringos and what is amazing is, she actually shows up on time when she is suppose to be there. No flaking, no faking, all honesty.
Now at the time she states to me she quit and she did it for about 8 months. She doesn't see herself gooing back.
I leave and I've been gone for about 2 months or so. We are in contact everyday, social media, video, whatsapp, email everything. I know her friends, tye know me.
She did say she was having fun with me but was really enjoying the connection and all that.
I started lurking the prepago sites and looking to see if there was any ads that looked like her. Sure enough I found one that MAY look like her. I could not confirm.
I videoed with her, whatsapped from another whatsapp foreigh phone and called while I was on the phone with her. It rang. Damm 2nd phone, it's her.
During that video chat I was able to get it out that she was working again. But the thing is, the way she told me first she "didn't want to talk about it" but she said "oh I stopped because it was to much and I was tired and I needed a break".
The thing is, she is honest with me because I look for her new number and reversed all the other ads and she really only started up again recently.
The truth is, she says she doesn't trust men and no matter what she wil think I am fucking other girls. She has a point and you know what (I totoally lied, I banged while I was there but not while back) But there is SOMETHING!!
I want her to really fall in love with me. I am going to take her on a plane somewhere soon.
Guys, I know I am talking crazy right now. I need someone to make sense of all this. Also she really does not have the typcial prepago body. No surgery all natural etc. I want to get her.
I know there is part of me that deep down just wants her to open up and be in love. Maybe it is a game, maybe it is my ego.[/QUOTE]Amigo,
Take this as sincere advice from someone who has traveled to Colombia for 15 years. There are more red flags in your story than a Veterans cemetery on Memorial day. You might not want to hear this, but odds are you're being played, that's just the reality of it.
And unless you've had a vasectomy, you better wrap that thing up before you end up with an hijo.
Landed 6 pm Fri:
1st girl a Venz chick at Barre Excetiva Fri night while waiting for Fase Dos to open. 90 k. Forgot her name, no pics, hot bod, OK time but too hot when the club is packed.
2nd girl a stunning plastic blonde at Fase Dos, named Allison, no pics, 190 k, really hot and fun.
Sat:
AM: Vera Cruz Redlight block pickup, cutie spinner with colored headband-30 k.
PM, hook up with my sweetie Tanya from Conejitas from last time, 300 k per 12 HR-black hair / sunglasses / soda in pic-went to her bar to score for my wingman then Parque Boston for drinks & fun-TLN.
Sun AM-Tanya & her buddy up to Parque Arvi, lunch, boating, pics, food, smoke.
Sun PM, Barre Exectiva, Sarah (grey dress, looking in mirror) 90 k on site (while Tanya was asleep in my room, TLN LOL).
Mon AM-Tanya.
Mon PM. Jemena-Raudel redlight block-65 k-glasses in pic- then Sara from VeraCruz redlight block, 30 k-blond streaked hair- then Club Maracaibo, Rachel, Venz snow Queen-250 k to leave club and TLN (Pink hat in pics).
Tues AM-New Life-Rachel 60 k? Red dress.
Tues PM- Sara from Vera Cruz again, my room, offered her 60 k, gave her 150 k after 4 hrs of WOW.
Tues PM- Sarah from Barre Exectiva at my Hotel, TLN-240 k-crashed at 2 am, wake-up call for airport 4:45 am. Ouch.
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This is one of those times when I hope we are being trolled.
[QUOTE=TheShadow2;2045986]Amigo,
Take this as sincere advice from someone who has traveled to Colombia for 15 years. There are more red flags in your story than a Veterans cemetery on Memorial day. You might not want to hear this, but odds are you're being played, that's just the reality of it.
And unless you've had a vasectomy, you better wrap that thing up before you end up with an hijo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueChange;2045960]Hey so I'm turning to the forms because I'm caught.
Backstory. Saw her last year, she was a semi who we had a great great time together. College girl, not a real pro but does it to get clothes, phones while still gong to school. (she actually goes, I visted her there).
So She quit in the begining of the year, changed her number and gave me her new one, and all her social media links (private ones in her inner circle of friends).
I come visit her recently, before I arrive I ask her how much for her time. She makes a remark like "oh what you think I'm going to be your ****! And caught me off gaurd. I later find out she is more joking. But anyway.
I arrive and I see her first thing, she comes over and says she does not want any money because it is really weird to take it from me. We have a great vibe, the things sexually we do together is in the top 3 best of my life, maybe #1. We bone, no protection. (I never do this, maybe 4 girls in my life).
I ask her to come another time, let me meet her friends. I make everyone dinner we hang, she even tells me not to to tell her friend how we met. (it's very discreet).
We spend pretty much the entire time I am there together. She is super intelligent and we have a similar family background and causes a further connection between us. I further our bond and I creampie with her (she is on the pill and lets me know before hand, she also alludes to not wanting kids now etc).
So I guess I am feeling very special. She really isn't nomrally this much into gringos and what is amazing is, she actually shows up on time when she is suppose to be there. No flaking, no faking, all honesty.
Now at the time she states to me she quit and she did it for about 8 months. She doesn't see herself gooing back.
I leave and I've been gone for about 2 months or so. We are in contact everyday, social media, video, whatsapp, email everything. I know her friends, tye know me.
She did say she was having fun with me but was really enjoying the connection and all that.
I started lurking the prepago sites and looking to see if there was any ads that looked like her. Sure enough I found one that MAY look like her. I could not confirm.
I videoed with her, whatsapped from another whatsapp foreigh phone and called while I was on the phone with her. It rang. Damm 2nd phone, it's her.
During that video chat I was able to get it out that she was working again. But the thing is, the way she told me first she "didn't want to talk about it" but she said "oh I stopped because it was to much and I was tired and I needed a break"..[/QUOTE]Any chick that consistently fucks you without any type of compensation likes you.
But that is a long way from a serious exclusive relationship in Colombia. And how could you believe that she would quit working without some other line of work or income.
If you want to get her then you have to take her.
The only guys that I know that have successfully taken girls out of the business are guys that had the chick move in with them and supported them completely and then the only way they make it last is by knocking them up.
I agree, it sounds like, other than the times that she has lied, she's been completely honest with you.
Like somebody else said. "the only potential problem is the pregnancy thing". No need to worry about the STD thing, I'm sure she's not barebacking ALL the other gringos and locals she bangs on a daily basis.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2046006]Like somebody else said. "the only potential problem is the pregnancy thing".
.[/QUOTE]Really never understood why some guys like to voluntarily take themselves out of the gene pool.
Especially in Colombia. I mean every last one of these chicks are going to get pregnant at some point.
Why is it so much better for them to have some Colombian guys baby instead of yours?
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2046001]Any chick that consistently fucks you without any type of compensation likes you.
But that is a long way from a serious exclusive relationship in Colombia. And how could you believe that she would quit working without some other line of work or income.
If you want to get her then you have to take her.
The only guys that I know that have successfully taken girls out of the business are guys that had the chick move in with them and supported them completely and then the only way they make it last is by knocking them up.[/QUOTE]Yeah it was like at the time when we were together I was telling her about how to start an online business and make real money with drop shipping etc.
The thing is, she told me she did it for 8 months. Then it took a toll and she started to really hate men and didn't want to go back. I think that is the hurdle I have to get over. When we were together, it was the impression that she really didn't want to go back to it. I didn't know I just slipped in during the hiatus. Too bad because during that time I got feelings and now it's 4 am and I'm having those wonderful chest pains. Damn, got to shake it. I know it's not healthy and not normal for me which is why I came here to advice.
My other post paint a great picture of sticking to the hobby. So sorry for detering.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2046034]Really never understood why some guys like to voluntarily take themselves out of the gene pool.
Especially in Colombia. I mean every last one of these chicks are going to get pregnant at some point.
Why is it so much better for them to have some Colombian guys baby instead of yours?[/QUOTE]Just speaking for myself, I can think of a few reasons to take myself out of the gene pool, especially with someone I've known for, at most a few days.
Call me old-fashioned, but if I father a child, I feel like I have some responsibility towards the child and the mother. Especially in a country where being a single mother is frowned upon. I'm really not wanting to accept that responsibility for a $50 fuck. Condoms might not be 100% effective, but they're damned close, when properly used.
The other big reason; I'm not dumb. If a girl, who I met through p4 p is willing to fuck me bareback, then she's doing the same with others. If those others are fucking her bareback, they are doing the same with other women. At some point, the probability of someone being exposed to an STD approaches 100%. That's a gamble I don't want to take. Condoms are cheaper than antibiotics.
Just my opinion, if you're willing to put yourself into the gene pool with a prepago, you probably don't belong in the gene pool.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045963]In which our Hero meets a Fairy Princess named Sara. LOL.
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b3abbc8fa8[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey dude nice vids. And thanks for all the entertaining reports. 👍128077;.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045963]In which our Hero meets a Fairy Princess named Sara. LOL.
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b3abbc8fa8[/URL][/QUOTE]Also at 1:19" you will see the cutie glue huffer go by with some older dude, same clothes as day before.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2046075]Just speaking for myself, I can think of a few reasons to take myself out of the gene pool, especially with someone I've known for, at most a few days.
Call me old-fashioned, but if I father a child, I feel like I have some responsibility towards the child and the mother. Especially in a country where being a single mother is frowned upon. I'm really not wanting to accept that responsibility for a $50 fuck. Condoms might not be 100% effective, but they're damned close, when properly used.
The other big reason; I'm not dumb. If a girl, who I met through p4 p is willing to fuck me bareback, then she's doing the same with others. If those others are fucking her bareback, they are doing the same with other women. At some point, the probability of someone being exposed to an STD approaches 100%. That's a gamble I don't want to take. Condoms are cheaper than antibiotics.
Just my opinion, if you're willing to put yourself into the gene pool with a prepago, you probably don't belong in the gene pool.[/QUOTE]I agree. A guy should take steps to insure the survival of his offspring at least for the first two years.
Most young mothers in Colombia are single (not married). But I still think it is a good place to have a child. Very low infant mortality rate considering and you can purchase a good EPS health insurance for less than 50 dollars a month which will vastly increase the health and well being of the mother and the child.
It is quite odd when you think about all the unprotected sex I have had over my life and the fact that I never contracted a single STD. My friends were always getting some shit that was going around back in the day. One told me the reason I never catch anything is because I'm a carrier. Jajaja.
But I have always considered myself lucky in that regard.
But until I finally do contract some deadly virus. I'll be keeping myself in the gene pool. I consider it my personal duty to keep the white race alive because as a whole we aren't really doing too well against the others.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;1916613]M2 is much quieter, the rooms all have showers w / hot water and cold A / C. The daily breakfast was fantastic! The walk down the hill was no big deal. The walk back up the hill was a killer. Both have pools however all the girls hang out at the M1 pool area.
El Mechanico[/QUOTE]M1 prices for chicas are very high and I never seen any photos of the girls. The ones on this post look OK but on this forum they seem to be quoted as 7 and 8 in Medellin. Any one have some photos of the chicas who are chilling at M1 and how much they asked?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045997][URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b50f51674a[/URL][/QUOTE]Pretty ballzy risking your life to bring us this footage, but thanks!
I'm guessing you don't ever have plans of returning here again? I'm pretty sure you'd be found out next time, especially since you posted the women you actually sessioned with.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2046319]Pretty ballzy risking your life to bring us this footage, but thanks!
I'm guessing you don't ever have plans of returning here again? I'm pretty sure you'd be found out next time, especially since you posted the women you actually sessioned with.[/QUOTE]I don't know, pretty G rated footage and I doubt they troll PornHub too much, plus if I drive more Gringo traffic to any of these girls, doubt they'd be too pissed, and they aren't exactly under-the-radar girls, standing in front of a Love hotel.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2046319]Pretty ballzy risking your life to bring us this footage, but thanks!
I'm guessing you don't ever have plans of returning here again? I'm pretty sure you'd be found out next time, especially since you posted the women you actually sessioned with.[/QUOTE]Is this place your backyard? I recall someone posting that. How safe is it?
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;2046319]Pretty ballzy risking your life to bring us this footage, but thanks!
I'm guessing you don't ever have plans of returning here again? I'm pretty sure you'd be found out next time, especially since you posted the women you actually sessioned with.[/QUOTE]Compared to my time in Kandahar, Afghanistan I don't find downtown Medellin that scary, or even compared to places I've been in Wash DC when I went to school there.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2046319]Pretty ballzy risking your life to bring us this footage, but thanks![/QUOTE]Before he said he was using spy camera glasses.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2046336]Before he said he was using spy camera glasses.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah for sure, walking around that area openly filming is counter-indicated. LOL. I like some danger but am not suicidal.
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[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045996]Landed 6 pm Fri:
1st girl a Venz chick at Barre Excetiva Fri night while waiting for Fase Dos to open. 90 k. Forgot her name, no pics, hot bod, OK time but too hot when the club is packed.
2nd girl a stunning plastic blonde at Fase Dos, named Allison, no pics, 190 k, really hot and fun.
Sat:
AM: Vera Cruz Redlight block pickup, cutie spinner with colored headband-30 k.
PM, hook up with my sweetie Tanya from Conejitas from last time, 300 k per 12 HR-black hair / sunglasses / soda in pic-went to her bar to score for my wingman then Parque Boston for drinks & fun-TLN.
Sun AM-Tanya & her buddy up to Parque Arvi, lunch, boating, pics, food, smoke..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2046356][URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593c68bf13a22[/URL][/QUOTE]You have to hand it to Colombian women. Even the street hookers tend to dress nice and for the occasion. I've been trying to find an alternative to Colombia in Latin America but nothing beats pussy in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Joselito69;2046244]M1 prices for chicas are very high and I never seen any photos of the girls. The ones on this post look OK but on this forum they seem to be quoted as 7 and 8 in Medellin. Any one have some photos of the chicas who are chilling at M1 and how much they asked?[/QUOTE]I stayed two nights at M2 last month just so I could have first-hand knowledge of M1 and M2. Most of the chicas will go for 150 mil. IMO, rating them 7 and 8 is being generous. I think many of them have spent too much time at McDonalds. I didn't take any photos while I was there.
I keep looking at this thread for updates to put on the Map and List.
Page after page I don't see much about the places or the chicas.
I keep seeing Chat Chat.
Please put that stuff on this thread:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2046412]You've been busy.[/QUOTE]Yeah I hit it hard the last day between Judy & Sara & Sarah, the last two I think were paid to make me die with a smile on my face, the 2:45 hrs sleep before the airport didn't quite seem enough. "OH, I'll sleep on the plane!" Not, 2nd to last row, next to bathrooms, aisle seat, constant line for the head and people bumping into me continuously. The 4 HR drive home from MIA was fun, about fell asleep around Naples. Thank god for the heavy rain that made driving so dangerous at the speeds I was going it kept me awake. Was dragging ass the next day at work!
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2046605]I keep looking at this thread for updates to put on the Map and List.
Page after page I don't see much about the places or the chicas.
I keep seeing Chat Chat.
Please put that stuff on this thread:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL][/QUOTE]No kidding, I posted a bunch of trip reports with pics and they dropped back instantly 3 pages behind. LOL.
Am in Medellin for 5 days and started my mongering journey with Zandaly yesterday afternoon. Took an uber from El Poblado and got dropped at Catedral Basilica Metropolitana for 9000 Cop and from there Zandaly is only a couple of blocks north. Was presented with about 12 chicas ranging from 5-8. I picked Pamela, a little 23 year old Negrita. Price was 42 k for 1/2 hour or 70 k for 1 hour. Pamela had great service, good attention, lots of kisses on my whole body and almost GFE. The place was clean and aerated and hot shower afterwards.
I re-did the 1st one in regular speed, makes for easier watching:
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2046323]I don't know, pretty G rated footage and I doubt they troll PornHub too much, plus if I drive more Gringo traffic to any of these girls, doubt they'd be too pissed, and they aren't exactly under-the-radar girls, standing in front of a Love hotel.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I'd imagine that they are not wanting it broadcasted to the entire world that they are pros. Some of them may have family, boyfriends, husbands who may not know what they do.
I was also thinking in terms of the male Colombians who may not be too thrilled having their faces all over a porn website. Especially if they are also partaking in the trade and may be married, have a girlfriend, might not want their family knowing that they hang around such places, etc.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2046744]Yeah, but I'd imagine that they are not wanting it broadcasted to the entire world that they are pros. Some of them may have family, boyfriends, husbands who may not know what they do.
I was also thinking in terms of the male Colombians who may not be too thrilled having their faces all over a porn website. Especially if they are also partaking in the trade and may be married, have a girlfriend, might not want their family knowing that they hang around such places, etc.[/QUOTE]I doubt anyone stands in front of a Love Hotel all day in the center of town with out everyone knowing what they do. Locals walking by are just that, innocently walking down a city street and Pornhub has lord knows how many vids to sift through, I didn't use YouTube to be more discrete.
It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. And doing that and then posting it on a website is rude on top of rude.
And yes, that applies to government surveillance as well.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2045963]In which our Hero meets a Fairy Princess named Sara. LOL.
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593b3abbc8fa8[/URL][/QUOTE]What time of the day is the best time to stroll down these streets? (that is, when are the most women out and about?
Nice that all this happens right next to the big church. Convenient for those who need to repent right after some righteous sinful activity!
Is this activity mainly restricted to these couple of streets or is this activity generally available in the surrounding area?
I assume it's a good idea to make sure you're out of this area before the sun falls for safety reasons?
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2046772]What time of the day is the best time to stroll down these streets? (that is, when are the most women out and about?
Nice that all this happens right next to the big church. Convenient for those who need to repent right after some righteous sinful activity!
Is this activity mainly restricted to these couple of streets or is this activity generally available in the surrounding area?
I assume it's a good idea to make sure you're out of this area before the sun falls for safety reasons?[/QUOTE]I'd say 10 am-3 pm is best, before all the locals get off work and get loaded. Generally confined to certain blocks, I made and posted a map here in post #22603. If you want to PM me I can email you a cleaner copy if that one is blurry, (they resized it smaller).
[QUOTE=CityShain30;2046658]Am in Medellin for 5 days and started my mongering journey with Zandaly yesterday afternoon. Took an uber from El Poblado and got dropped at Catedral Basilica Metropolitana for 9000 Cop and from there Zandaly is only a couple of blocks north. Was presented with about 12 chicas ranging from 5-8. I picked Pamela, a little 23 year old Negrita. Price was 42 k for 1/2 hour or 70 k for 1 hour. Pamela had great service, good attention, lots of kisses on my whole body and almost GFE. The place was clean and aerated and hot shower afterwards.[/QUOTE]Was it mostly spinners or did they have curvy chicas?
The next time you are there, check around the doorways of the bars and love hotels. You will notice security cameras all over the place. You can see some of them above the girls' heads in your videos.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2046749]I doubt anyone stands in front of a Love Hotel all day in the center of town with out everyone knowing what they do. Locals walking by are just that, innocently walking down a city street and Pornhub has lord knows how many vids to sift through, I didn't use YouTube to be more discrete.[/QUOTE]
Good choice, Pamela has an amazing body.
[QUOTE=CityShain30;2046658]Am in Medellin for 5 days and started my mongering journey with Zandaly yesterday afternoon. Took an uber from El Poblado and got dropped at Catedral Basilica Metropolitana for 9000 Cop and from there Zandaly is only a couple of blocks north. Was presented with about 12 chicas ranging from 5-8. I picked Pamela, a little 23 year old Negrita. Price was 42 k for 1/2 hour or 70 k for 1 hour. Pamela had great service, good attention, lots of kisses on my whole body and almost GFE. The place was clean and aerated and hot shower afterwards.[/QUOTE].
There are rules, customs and "manners" that do not apply in some places and new ones which you must learn that apply in others.
ITs a good rule of thumb to respect others as you wish to be respected. However, it is no guarantee. The only guarantee is that you WILL get offended and you will offend someone.
Cameras are everywhere. It is the world we live in.
Whats worse? Hearsay!
I have had worse problems having to respond to a vague description of circumstances that supposedly happened when I was unaware anyone was paying attention, IF they were even paying attention or just making shit up! HA! I wish there was a recording!
When we leave first world, there is a lot more stuff that goes on that might be disagreeable to someone accustomed to first world standards. How many times have I walked down the street in Medellin and people approach me with ridiculousness, tragedies or lies about whatever. Its the way it is. If it is impoosible to ignore, I find it is best to be a stand up guy and just respond directly and move on with purpose.
This particular video is a hidden camera objectively recording people in public. So what? Personally I think it is very telling about the mood and attitude of the people of this particular scene. There are a lot seedier public places but that's besides the point.
What's stopping one of them from getting pissed off if the cat get's out of the bag? Nothing. People get pissed for lesser reasons. De males! And be careful. For whatever that's worth.
BTW, Thanks for the video.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2046756]It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. And doing that and then posting it on a website is rude on top of rude.
And yes, that applies to government surveillance as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dickhead;2046756]It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. And doing that and then posting it on a website is rude on top of rude.[/QUOTE]I believe "rude" is an understatement.
Quite a few casas are open on Sundays. Went to New Life around 1:00 p. M and I was the only client there and so many chicas to choose from. I lost count, but I think some 18 chicas came during presentation. It was hard to remember all the names and pick one. The girls ranged from 3-8. Picked Laura, a 23 year old paisa. She is learning English and can speak a few words. Great Body, but performance is lackluster. She would not make eye contact at all during sex. While I was there, I snapped a pic of their updated price sheet. Their pricing is based on the amount of time you spend with the girl. Not pre-determined as such.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2046813]Was it mostly spinners or did they have curvy chicas?[/QUOTE]I'd not say spinners as such. But they had a good variety of chicas from the Curvy Silicon ones to the flaquitas.
Next time I go to Zandaly, I want to try Dulce. She got some good curves. Anyone recommend any other chicas at Zandaly?
I was walking in centro on Saturday and I was handed a card for this Casa not on the map. Traviesas Sexi (calle 58 No 45 D 104). Prices were 35 k for 1/2 hour or 50,000 for 1 hour. They also advertised Promocion con 2 chicas.
On Sunday, I went there around 11:30 and it closed or not yet open.
Do you guys know of any other casas that do 2 chicas and price for it?
[QUOTE=Dickhead]It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. And doing that and then posting it on a website is rude on top of rude.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2047139]I believe "rude" is an understatement.[/QUOTE]I suppose you don't approve of Google Maps, or people videoing at amusement parks.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2047163]I suppose you don't approve of Google Maps, or people videoing at amusement parks.[/QUOTE]If any of the Chicas or others in the video that was taken had been aware that they were being filmed, the person taking the video would of been of harassed and possibly mugged and beat up. There are some big transvestites that hang by the church and the glue sniffers along the street on the side of the Museum that can be very aggressive and can become violent in a heartbeat.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2046772]What time of the day is the best time to stroll down these streets? (that is, when are the most women out and about?
Nice that all this happens right next to the big church. Convenient for those who need to repent right after some righteous sinful activity!
Is this activity mainly restricted to these couple of streets or is this activity generally available in the surrounding area?
I assume it's a good idea to make sure you're out of this area before the sun falls for safety reasons?[/QUOTE]Another area with girls is the park area and area surrounding the Museum. Lots of the girls sitting on the benches, or on the wall in front of the Museum, or around the statues are available. These girls typically will not be aggressive like those in front of the love hotels and bars so you have to approach them a bit differently in case their not working. You will know right away with a simple Hello, and asking them what their doing. If you don't speak any Spanish you shouldn't even be in El Centro, let alone at night.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2047337]Another area with girls is the park area and area surrounding the Museum. Lots of the girls sitting on the benches, or on the wall in front of the Museum, or around the statues are available. These girls typically will not be aggressive like those in front of the love hotels and bars so you have to approach them a bit differently in case their not working. You will know right away with a simple Hello, and asking them what their doing. If you don't speak any Spanish you shouldn't even be in El Centro, let alone at night.[/QUOTE]Definitely, the girls on the benches and the girls around the last few statues and wall to the SW, I did experience some fairly aggressive girls on the benches in the little park in this pic:
More so then the girls behind the church who are mostly on their phones. I prefer the ones very close to the hotel doors so we don't have far to go to get off the street.
[QUOTE=CityShain30;2047152]
Do you guys know of any other casas that do 2 chicas and price for it?[/QUOTE]At chicas punto I was offered 'Lesbian Show' but I never asked the price. Also you should probably have the chica pick her partner. If they don't know each other it will be an awkward session.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2047163]I suppose you don't approve of Google Maps, or people videoing at amusement parks.[/QUOTE]If yours is an attempt to "troll", it did not come well. I am always happy to knock at a door. People on ISG knows that:
1) Google Maps (you meant Street View, probably) blurs all faces;.
2) in most amusement parks, there are no men checking street prostitutes (in most families, this is considered not appropriate, even if we all like this type of hunt), neither girls dressed in a slutty style soliciting men.
If you know such an amusement park, PM me. I will be happy to explore! (but I want to be sure there are no cams)
I'm neutral on the subject but it is worthwhile to point / remind that Google Maps blurs faces and license plates, and it is not valid to compare a red light district to an amusement park. In case the latter point is not clear, put yourself in the situation of having to explain your presence in a video of a red light district versus your appearance at an amusement park.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2047163]I suppose you don't approve of Google Maps, or people videoing at amusement parks.[/QUOTE]
I think you are 100% correct on all three points.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2047329]If any of the Chicas or others in the video that was taken had been aware that they were being filmed, the person taking the video would of been of harassed and possibly mugged and beat up. There are some big transvestites that hang by the church and the glue sniffers along the street on the side of the Museum that can be very aggressive and can become violent in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]
I went to Traviesas Sexi today (calle 58 No 45 the 104 Pink Door) and they had the 2 chica special for 70 k for 40 minutes.
They had a decent selection and I went with Linda, a 18 year old blond and Nicole - 24 year old brunette. Linda had a nice young tight body with perky boobs and she was good. On the other hand, I would not recommend Nicole. Not very good service.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2046828]Good choice, Pamela has an amazing body..[/QUOTE]Agreed and she has awesome service as well. She also does very good massage. I took one hour and had a good massage after the session. She said she went to Massage school at some point in her life.
These are the addresses from the map at which there was no casas.
Sarita, Calle 55 #43-72.
?Name, Carrera 35 # 7-65.
This one is not on the Map.
Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 No 45 the 104.
Please add it.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2047329]There are some big transvestites that hang by the church and the glue sniffers along the street on the side of the Museum that can be very aggressive and can become violent in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]Someone complains if in the harmony of this thread some people (incl. Me) is very straightforward in making assessments and call names, but for sure street people at Centro has a different and more physical approach in discussing etiquette and point out what is wrong. Beware!
So I have my first trip coming up in about 2 weeks and wanted to know if any recent Canadians or anyone in MDE at this time knows if the Currency Changers or Banks exchange Canadian and what the rate is. I have been on a Currency Exchange site and they quoted me about 1 cdn = 2000 cop if I was to order about 500.00 cdn. I will be checking with my bank about service charges from the ATM and from everything I read ATM is the way to go. I would just feel better with both some cash and rest on the ATM. Any info would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Kozak;2048228]So I have my first trip coming up in about 2 weeks and wanted to know if any recent Canadians or anyone in MDE at this time knows if the Currency Changers or Banks exchange Canadian and what the rate is. I have been on a Currency Exchange site and they quoted me about 1 cdn = 2000 cop if I was to order about 500.00 cdn. I will be checking with my bank about service charges from the ATM and from everything I read ATM is the way to go. I would just feel better with both some cash and rest on the ATM. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]ATM works fine with Canadian ATM cards. Depending on your plan you might be dinged 5 CAD per transactions. Use Bancolombia because that bank doesn't charge any fees (but your bank probably will). The rate right now is 2200 COP per CAD. The maximum Bancolombia will let you take in one transaction is 600,000 COP. That's less than 300 dollars. You would see a withdrawal in and around 270 CAD for 600,000 COP. Then if your plan doesn't have free withdrawals on international ATMs the fee can be as high as 5 CAD. For 275 CAD all together for 600,000 COP. You will find that is still better than going to a money changer be it in Colombia or outside.
In short: just use your ATM card. At most bring a couple of hundred USD to change at the airport in Bogota if that's where you are landing.
Caution: exchange rates can change by the time you get to Colombia so you'll need to redo these calculations if you want to see what the final amount is.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2048242]ATM works fine with Canadian ATM cards. Depending on your plan you might be dinged 5 CAD per transactions. Use Bancolombia because that bank doesn't charge any fees (but your bank probably will). The rate right now is 2200 COP per CAD. The maximum Bancolombia will let you take in one transaction is 600,000 COP. That's less than 300 dollars. You would see a withdrawal in and around 270 CAD for 600,000 COP. Then if your plan doesn't have free withdrawals on international ATMs the fee can be as high as 5 CAD. For 275 CAD all together for 600,000 COP. You will find that is still better than going to a money changer be it in Colombia or outside.
In short: just use your ATM card. At most bring a couple of hundred USD to change at the airport in Bogota if that's where you are landing.
Caution: exchange rates can change by the time you get to Colombia so you'll need to redo these calculations if you want to see what the final amount is.[/QUOTE]Davivienda also doesn't charge a fee and allows up to 720 k withdrawals with foreign cards.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2048251]Davivienda also doesn't charge a fee and allows up to 720 k withdrawals with foreign cards.[/QUOTE]Thanks Yippie and JJBee for the info. I was hoping not to change CDN to US as the exchange is almost 35%. I will need to ask about the international fee as was not aware of that and also have a ball park on the exchange when I get there. Thanks again.
Citibank ATM in Oviedo mail provided best rates for CDN to COP last year, Cash (even US to COP) changed does not offer best rates.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2048251]Davivienda also doesn't charge a fee and allows up to 720 k withdrawals with foreign cards.[/QUOTE]I use Citibank because that's what I have in the USA And there is conveniently an ATM on the second floor of the airport as you exit. In addition there is a Citibank on Carrera 43 in Poblado. I am routinely able to get 1,200,000 to 1,600,000 per withdrawal. If you have a Citibank account they only charge you the 3% conversion fee and I've found the rate they give to always be slightly above the forex official rate, surprising I know.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2048691]I use Citibank because that's what I have in the USA And there is conveniently an ATM on the second floor of the airport as you exit. In addition there is a Citibank on Carrera 43 in Poblado. I am routinely able to get 1,200,000 to 1,600,000 per withdrawal. If you have a Citibank account they only charge you the 3% conversion fee and I've found the rate they give to always be slightly above the forex official rate, surprising I know.[/QUOTE]There is also a CitiBank ATM in Rio Sur Mall across the street from Olviedo.
I like CitiBank because they let me take out 1. 5 million at a pop. But they do have an ATM fee that is about 6 bucks. If I didn't have a fidelity card that reimbursed me for ATM fees I might be tempted to use another bank.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2048978]There is also a CitiBank ATM in Rio Sur Mall across the street from Olviedo.
I like CitiBank because they let me take out 1. 5 million at a pop. But they do have an ATM fee that is about 6 bucks. If I didn't have a fidelity card that reimbursed me for ATM fees I might be tempted to use another bank.[/QUOTE]There's a few Citibank ATMS. One at the Jumbo on Avenida Las Vegas, another inside CC Oviedo and a branch further up Avenida Poblado.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2048242]Use Bancolombia because that bank doesn't charge any fees (but your bank probably will). The rate right now is 2200 COP per CAD.
In short: just use your ATM card. At most bring a couple of hundred USD to change at the airport in Bogota if that's where you are landing.[/QUOTE]Bancolombia used to be my go to bank until this year. They are not part of the Plus network anymore so my ATM card no longer worked. Davienda and BBBV ATMs work with no fees to use their machines, although Davienda lets you take more out per transaction.
Agree an ATM card is the way to go with the best exchange rate. There are ATMs at airport. Never use money exchangers, their rates are the worst. But it's a good idea to have a couple hundred bucks as back up in case you have trouble with your ATM card.
I agree with you that ATM cards are the best way to go and it's always a good idea to have some cash (no more than you can afford to lose) in case of card problems. Sometimes there are widespread ATM network outages, especially on weekends. Another good tactic is to have alternative cards or backup cards. Some banks permit multiple active ATM cards, or you can link checking accounts to an American Express card.
[QUOTE=AlwaysRandy;2049232]Bancolombia used to be my go to bank until this year. They are not part of the Plus network anymore so my ATM card no longer worked. Davienda and BBBV ATMs work with no fees to use their machines, although Davienda lets you take more out per transaction.
Agree an ATM card is the way to go with the best exchange rate. There are ATMs at airport. Never use money exchangers, their rates are the worst. But it's a good idea to have a couple hundred bucks as back up in case you have trouble with your ATM card.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlwaysRandy;2049232]Bancolombia used to be my go to bank until this year. They are not part of the Plus network anymore so my ATM card no longer worked. Davienda and BBBV ATMs work with no fees to use their machines, although Davienda lets you take more out per transaction.
Agree an ATM card is the way to go with the best exchange rate. There are ATMs at airport. Never use money exchangers, their rates are the worst. But it's a good idea to have a couple hundred bucks as back up in case you have trouble with your ATM card.[/QUOTE]Great post!
Are we done with ATM talk yet? LOL 😂.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2049288]Great post!
Are we done with ATM talk yet? LOL 😂.[/QUOTE]Maybe not. LOL.
On my last trip I let Bank of America know what dates I'd be there using my debit / credit cards. 2nd day there my ATM would not work in my usual machines in Hotel Nutribara. I went back and forth between the 2 machine, zip, went looking for some other machines, getting desperate, nada. Turned out I paid $5 for each attempt, for over $50 in charges. Called BkAm and after a 45 min hold on the weekend, they said they killed my card due to "suspicious activity". In the city I told them I'd be in, on the dates I said I'd be there and the suspicious activity were cash withdraws using my pin at ATM's WTF! Lesson, bring a good amount of cash also, and several cards. Actually had my work account card also and it wouldn't work at all, also let BkAm know I'd have that card on the trip, they couldn't tell me why it wasn't working.
It never ends.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2049288]Great post!
Are we done with ATM talk yet? LOL 😂.[/QUOTE]
I will be taking my first trip out to MDE for 3 weeks. This will be my first trip and it will begin on the last week of June. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect thanks to this forum. The biggest weakness in my game plan for now is my Facebook contacts are rather limited. Anyone with an established FB network willing to share please PM me.
Also, anyone know if the Mansion usually throws a 4th of July party? I didn't see any mention of one in last year's posts around this time but I was hoping there would be a party kinda like the one they do on Halloween.
Anyway, I look forward to this trip and I will try to post a report when I can in order to pay it forward for all the good info provided in this forum that helped me plan a trip.
Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsiders. What a deal! Jejejej.
[QUOTE=Frojo;2049522]I will be taking my first trip out to MDE for 3 weeks. This will be my first trip and it will begin on the last week of June. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect thanks to this forum. The biggest weakness in my game plan for now is my Facebook contacts are rather limited. Anyone with an established FB network willing to share please PM me.
Also, anyone know if the Mansion usually throws a 4th of July party? I didn't see any mention of one in last year's posts around this time but I was hoping there would be a party kinda like the one they do on Halloween.
Anyway, I look forward to this trip and I will try to post a report when I can in order to pay it forward for all the good info provided in this forum that helped me plan a trip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2049622]Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsiders. What a deal! Jejejej.[/QUOTE]Yea pretty sure I'd rather take the 190 k and spend it on the hottest girl at FaseDos or or 2 from a Centro strip club or have 6 different redlight girls at 30 k each.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2049622]Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsiders[/QUOTE]They have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.
So it is not on the weekend before for us celebrating Canada Day! Ah? (150 years).
Good to know for next year, thanks and enjoy.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2049666]They have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2049653]Yea pretty sure I'd rather take the 190 k and spend it on the hottest girl at FaseDos or or 2 from a Centro strip club or have 6 different redlight girls at 30 k each.[/QUOTE]For me it's worth the price of admission as I'm new in MDE and it will give me a good chance to meet some of the FB girls in person. I hope. I usually party in Tijuana and there are free "fiestas" there where one can socialize with girls who are usually available for all nighters (8 hrs). I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.
[QUOTE=AlwaysRandy;2049232]Bancolombia used to be my go to bank until this year. They are not part of the Plus network anymore so my ATM card no longer worked. Davienda and BBBV ATMs work with no fees to use their machines, although Davienda lets you take more out per transaction.
Agree an ATM card is the way to go with the best exchange rate. There are ATMs at airport. Never use money exchangers, their rates are the worst. But it's a good idea to have a couple hundred bucks as back up in case you have trouble with your ATM card.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/mobile/index.jsp[/URL]#(page: results, params:(query:'Medellíand, Antioquia, Colombia, COL'.
It's my understanding that Bancolombia is ON the Plus Network, however not every ATM is connected, especially on weekends. For example, in Poblado CC Diez is off the network, however CC Vizcaya in on.
[QUOTE=Frojo;2049708]I usually party in Tijuana and there are free "fiestas" there where one can socialize with girls who are usually available for all nighters (8 hrs). I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.[/QUOTE]Medellin has that too. They are called the strip cubs of Centro. Conejitas will have 30-50 women working on a weekend night. Barre Ejectiva will have 20+ and Maracaibo will have 15+, (depending what time you go, girls roll in all night, with more there after 10) all free to get in. If you don't mind them ringing a bell when you come in. I have pulled all nights from all 3. They all want 50-60 k for the girl to leave, plus what she agrees too. Or you get her # and meet the next day or when she gets off. They have everything from spinners to Colombian Barbies.
That's 60+ women within 3 blocks you can sit and drink with & gauge chemistry. I wouldn't go without some who spoke good Spanish along. And I wouldn't dress up to much, bad places to be sporting a Rolex or get too drunk or flash a wad etc. And after dark I would cab, not walk. I mean I walk, but my hotel is right between the clubs and I lived in Latin America for 5 years and speak good Spanish etc.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2047825]I'm neutral on the subject but it is worthwhile to point / remind that Google Maps blurs faces and license plates, and it is not valid to compare a red light district to an amusement park. In case the latter point is not clear, put yourself in the situation of having to explain your presence in a video of a red light district versus your appearance at an amusement park.[/QUOTE]I was not comparing anything. I was responding to the original post that stated "It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. " There was no mention of red-light districts. "Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances" includes amusement parks and red-light districts, without distinction.
[QUOTE=Frojo;2049708]For me it's worth the price of admission as I'm new in MDE and it will give me a good chance to meet some of the FB girls in person. I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.[/QUOTE]If you already know them from facebook, why would you have to go to a party to meet them in person? 190 K is a lot just to mingle with hookers that you already almost know. There are so many hookers in Medellin that this would be a waste of money. Or why not just go on a normal day where it costs a lot less? And some people think it is ridiculous that some casas charge 2000 pesos or that you have to buy a beer to see their lineup.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2049841]If you already know them from facebook, why would you have to go to a party to meet them in person? 190 K is a lot just to mingle with hookers that you already almost know. There are so many hookers in Medellin that this would be a waste of money. Or why not just go on a normal day where it costs a lot less? And some people think it is ridiculous that some casas charge 2000 pesos or that you have to buy a beer to see their lineup.[/QUOTE]What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.
[QUOTE=Questner;2049720][URL]http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/mobile/index.jsp[/URL]#(page: results, params:(query:'Medelland, Antioquia, Colombia, COL'.
It's my understanding that Bancolombia is ON the Plus Network, however not every ATM is connected, especially on weekends. For example, in Poblado CC Diez is off the network, however CC Vizcaya in on.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that explains why I can get cash from some ATMs but not others on the weekend.
Carrera 35 #7-65? Are you sure this is correct?
Seems like a strange address for El Centro. According to Google maps this address pops up in el poblado across from the hostal.
[QUOTE=LovSex;2047855]These are the addresses from the map at which there was no casas.
Sarita, Calle 55 #43-72.
?Name, Carrera 35 # 7-65.
This one is not on the Map.
Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 No 45 the 104.
Please add it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2049666]They have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.
[QUOTE=Kozak;2050055]Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.[/QUOTE]Answer: I doubt it. For a more definitive answer, contact Hotel M and ask.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2049879]What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.[/QUOTE]Agreed. 170 k if you're already a guest there is absurd. I would probably just leave the house for the day. Though if it's Sunday, there's not as much going around the city.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2049879]What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.[/QUOTE]A guest paying 170 K cover charge is a rip off. Because the hotel doesn't stop you from going to the pool or meeting the women if you don't pay. The only thing you can't do is drink or eat their crappy food.
But if was in Medellin and didn't have a long list of women already lined up. I'd pay the 190 K to go to the party.
For one thing. There isn't going to be anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon than go to this party. I'd be in and out in about an hour. I'd get the contact info of every hot chick in the place and pull the hottest one back to my place to have my own private pool party.
Even if you have half the women at the party on your facebook already. It just saves so much time to be able to see them in person and chat them up a bit. Instead of calling each and everyone over to your place and waiting around for them to show up just to find out they aren't as hot in person or you lack chemistry with them.
The Mansion can be a huge time saver.
[QUOTE=Kozak;2050055]Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.[/QUOTE]It was not a problem last year. I sat on the right of the 'stage' and had my phone camera and video catching all the hot ones as they danced & exited the 'Stage'! Nobody ever told me a thing!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2050125]For one thing. There isn't going to be anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon than go to this party.[/QUOTE]I don't know about that, the redlight block girls are out on Sunday and one of the hottest chicks I met in Medellin I pulled from Conejitas around 6 pm on a Sunday.
The drinks are cheap and there's usually a diamond in the deep rough, but gentlemen do not get drunk alone, these girls can be cagey.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2050125]A guest paying 170 K cover charge is a rip off. Because the hotel doesn't stop you from going to the pool or meeting the women if you don't pay. The only thing you can't do is drink or eat their crappy food.
[/QUOTE]Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2050478]Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.[/QUOTE]The mansion is full of guys that will book a room for the 4 of July party next year when they are down there this 4th of July.
And they will gladly pay the 56 bucks just to support the place.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2050478]Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.[/QUOTE]I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!
El Mechanico.
Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?
I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal [URL]booking.com[/URL] site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.
Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050855]However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio[/QUOTE]There's a thread here on this forum for 'The Mansion' or Casa Blanca Medellin. There are actually two hotels. They're in El Poblado.
I don't recommend centro for your first time unless you know your way around.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2050730]I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]You clearly misunderstood my post. My post was about those who are already staying at the hotel as guests, that is, those who can already attend the party for no extra fee as pointed out below.
The fee for non-hotel guests is 190 k which is totally fair and reasonable.
My post was merely pointing out the absurdity of why a hotel guest who can already attend the party for free would pay $56 solely for some food and drinks (especially if the hotel guest for example didn't drink) - and especially when such hotel guest can order in food directly to the hotel.
So, relax, calm down, no need to get all bent out of shape. All is right and wonderful in the world.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050855]Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.[/QUOTE]You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
[QUOTE]
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?[/QUOTE]2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.
[QUOTE]I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal booking.com site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.[/QUOTE]3. Having at least 2 girls in your bed every night isn't going to happen. It might happen once. Then the next morning, after you realize how much was stolen, plus how much of a mini-bar bill they ran up, you will realize how dumb that was. This is especially true if you're picking up women in Centro.
[QUOTE]Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?[/QUOTE]4. You should be in a place where someone will slap you every time you are about to make a serious mistake.
If you want what you are used to in Rio, go to Rio. Medellin is not Rio.
You have 3 nights and you're planning 3 weeks worth of activities. Strip clubs, casas, streetwalkers and prepagos. Cut your list in half and maybe you can have a good time. Prepagos, if they do show, they'll be late, and they won't come to Centro. They became prepagos to get out of Centro. Streetwalkers come with their own set of issues, and you're liable to end up with one who has some unexpected equipment. Plus Centro is a really good place to have really bad experiences, if you don't know what you are doing.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050855]Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?
I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal [URL]booking.com[/URL] site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.
Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?[/QUOTE]Here's a list of Love hotels in Medellin, there is a drop down list to see them all.
[URL]http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/[/URL]
Closest to Centro hot spots is Eros and Hotel Spazios. The neighborhood is kinda scary around Eros late at night. Like Dawn of the Dead scary.
3 D Suites looks like it has nice rooms but haven't been and it's about 20 blocks from the Centro Action.
Hawaii Suite looks nice too and is about 10 blocks to the action.
I stay in Hotel Botero because it is 2 blocks from 3 good strip clubs and 2 redlight blocks, you have to book a room for 2 or 3 if you want overnight guests. If you stay there check out the roof top bar, opens at 11:30 am.
Strip Clubs, I like FaseDos for super hot ones but not very cheap to hang out there, downtown I like Conijitas and Barre Ejectiva for reasonable prices and enough hot girls.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2050890]You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music..[/QUOTE]I'm traveling abroad, I tell the Chicas that American culture is different and that we Americans leave after 30 minutes upon the agreed upon time if no show. I do this so they know clearly the cultural expectation of timeliness. If they are not responsive if they are late I leave onto other things.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2050908]I'm traveling abroad, I tell the Chicas that American culture is different and that we Americans leave after 30 minutes upon the agreed upon time if no show. I do this so they know clearly the cultural expectation of timeliness. If they are not responsive if they are late I leave onto other things.[/QUOTE]I concur with PeoplesBuddy. If I know I don't have a lot of time, I explicitly tell the girl that I will only wait for her until X hour and if she hasn't arrived by then, I will not be available. I don't usually do this because I'm on vacation and I try not to get to worked up over time. But on the occasions I've done it, I'm batting 1000.
God bless them.
[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2050496]The mansion is full of guys that will book a room for the 4 of July party next year when they are down there this 4th of July.
And they will gladly pay the 56 bucks just to support the place.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2[/URL]) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo[/URL]) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr[/URL]).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Correction: ability to search is not lost. But there are only chatter, no directions. Googling like crazy gets me mixed results. I only have a phone number and I am not even sure about that, because there is another one also found. Carrera 43 x Calle 2 S-50, +57 4 3520217 and even that cannot be found on Google maps propertly. Cr 43A, B, C, then Calle 2 doesn't exist between Calle 1b and Calle 3.
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050940]Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?[/QUOTE]Colombia and Brazil have about a identical homicide rate.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050940]Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin[/URL]
[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]
That's the place.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050940]Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2[/URL]) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo[/URL]) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr[/URL]).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?[/QUOTE]Casa blanca or the mansion is officially www. [URL]hotelmedellinplaza.com[/URL] US phone # is 1-312-546-4301 email: [EMAIL]info@hotelmedellinm.com[/EMAIL].
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2050940]Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2[/URL]) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo[/URL]) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off ([URL]https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr[/URL]).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?[/QUOTE]Search Hotel M Medellin.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2050890]You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.
3. Having at least 2 girls in your bed every night isn't going to happen. It might happen once. Then the next morning, after you realize how much was stolen, plus how much of a mini-bar bill they ran up, you will realize how dumb that was. This is especially true if you're picking up women in Centro.
4. You should be in a place where someone will slap you every time you are about to make a serious mistake.
If you want what you are used to in Rio, go to Rio. Medellin is not Rio.
You have 3 nights and you're planning 3 weeks worth of activities. Strip clubs, casas, streetwalkers and prepagos. Cut your list in half and maybe you can have a good time. Prepagos, if they do show, they'll be late, and they won't come to Centro. They became prepagos to get out of Centro. Streetwalkers come with their own set of issues, and you're liable to end up with one who has some unexpected equipment. Plus Centro is a really good place to have really bad experiences, if you don't know what you are doing.[/QUOTE]Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music. My last visit in April and May of this year I visited the best 2 or 3 strip clubs and was terribly disappointed, lets face it Colombia does a lot very good but strip clubs is a total waste of time and pesos.
TTM.
How bizarre. So before my last trip at the end of April I got on Colombian Cupid and didn't really like the experience. Most women immediately asked if I wanted a serious relationship. Only one or two cuties. Only one prepago, really. I'm a reasonable man but I'm not wasting my time having a relationship with some random Colombian woman in her 30's who has kids and wants me to support her.
So I'm going to be in Medellin next week and decided to take people's advice and check out Latin American Cupid. It's the same software running the site with the same interface. I imagine it's exactly the same company. The only difference this time is I went straight for the platinum instead of gold membership. I did so by mistake. I'm not sure if going Platinum is more helpful? Does it say I have big pockets? I am getting much better results. I got a few prepagos to give me their numbers and a couple of cuties who look like they have a regular job. Still, 9/10 women who try to match with me are either not Colombian or not my type. Nonetheless, it's a constant stream of interest and I think Platinum even means they can contact me first without paying.
So why is Latin American Cupid better populated? Does it get more marketing in Colombia? I highly recommend it if you want have some numbers ahead of time and speak Spanish.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2051010]I think Platinum even means they can contact me first without paying.
So why is Latin American Cupid better populated?[/QUOTE]The only difference with platinum is that you can do video chat (not sure why you would need that) and your profile is pasted at the top of the page when you are connected or when you show interest to someone. With any level of membership the girls can contact you first. They always try to make you choose the platinum option as default the same way they used to make recurring payment by default. The reason I use LAC versus single country cupids is because I travel all over and do not just want my pot to contain chicks from just one country. I even get a lot of chicks in the US from LAC.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2050887]You clearly misunderstood my post. My post was about those who are already staying at the hotel as guests, that is, those who can already attend the party for no extra fee as pointed out below.
The fee for non-hotel guests is 190 k which is totally fair and reasonable.
My post was merely pointing out the absurdity of why a hotel guest who can already attend the party for free would pay $56 solely for some food and drinks (especially if the hotel guest for example didn't drink) - and especially when such hotel guest can order in food directly to the hotel.
So, relax, calm down, no need to get all bent out of shape. All is right and wonderful in the world.[/QUOTE]MY Bad UH. I did misunderstand. I was simply "defending the Mansion" but probably got a little to aggressive about it!! I stayed at the Mansion my first 2 trips to the MDE & could not have had a better time. I would not have enjoyed MDE / Colombia near as much had it not been for the Mansion. Ergo, I was defending it. The 4th of July party was the highlight of my first trip & it was 150 k COP last year. Yeah, I didn't agree with it & didn't even know I could have attended for free, but I paid it & ate and drank without worrying about it.
That being said, I feel no further need to stay there on my next visit & will rent an AirBnb in Lleras.
However, I see way to many people just flat out bashing the Mansion. My thoughts are, if you don't like the Mansion, don't stay there & leave them, their guests, the chicas & their party cover charges alone. It's that simple.
I hate the casas because I think they are nasty & I doubt the linens are changed out after every session. I stated as much in my trip reports. But I don't jump into every post & bash them the way some people do about the Mansion. The Mansion is a perfect fit for some every time they go. There were guys that were there both times I went. They refuse to leave. It was a perfect fit for me on my first 2 visits to the MDE from researching these boards. I doubt I'll ever go back but who knows.
Any way, no offense intended & apologies extended if I did offend you.
Peace & safe Mongering UH!
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2050990]Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music. My last visit in April and May of this year I visited the best 2 or 3 strip clubs and was terribly disappointed, lets face it Colombia does a lot very good but strip clubs is a total waste of time and pesos.
TTM.[/QUOTE]In my last couple of trips to Medellin, and actually over the years, the el Centro strips clubs have been very fruitful actually.
Again I'm referring to the el Centro clubs, and not the more plastic, high end clubs.
No need to buy lots of overpriced drinks, one is fine, and one for your chosen muchacha as well, if one is chosen.
As we all know, in a casa, it's a presentation, a quick choice, and off you go.
The strip club gives you a chance to chat and bond and feel the chemistry.
I enjoy the process much more and have had great success.
I disagree that the Colombian strip club "is a total waste of time and pesos".
I believe just the opposite actually.
Depends on your ability or desire to chit chat and bond I guess.
If you just want to quickly pick a girl and go bang, I guess the club would be a waste.
Not for me though.
The US strip clubs are actually the wastes.
Designed to grab your bucks, and leave you unfulfilled.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2051151] I would not have enjoyed MDE / Colombia near as much had it not been for the Mansion. Ergo, I was defending it. The 4th of July party was the highlight of my first trip & it was 150 k COP last year. Yeah, I didn't agree with it & didn't even know I could have attended for free, but I paid it & ate and drank without worrying about it.
[/QUOTE]I agree. I had a good time there as well, and I'm looking forward to staying there again for my next upcoming trip to Colombia. The last time I visited though was during an off-time of the year, and there weren't that many chicas visiting Charlie's unfortunately. It was great though for meeting like-minded travelers who I could hook up with for our hunting forays into the city during the days. I'm sure holiday weekends (American holidays that is) are much better attended there but you just have to book fairly early to be assured a room on those weekends (like 3 months in advance sometimes).
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2050990]Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.[/QUOTE]Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer in Troya. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2051198]Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.[/QUOTE]He means places like La Isla and Luna Lunera that are modelled after north american strip clubs. Remember the guy paying 800 k to a chica from La Isla to "hang out" with him in the evenings? Haha. There's also Isis in Cartagena which is always going to charge you the equivalent of $100 USD for an hour with a chica (back in May it was 280 k to fuck a girl) and all the alcohol is priced twice as much as it is anywhere else.
You're thinking of the centro strip clubs which are different.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2051155]In my last couple of trips to Medellin, and actually over the years, the el Centro strips clubs have been very fruitful actually.
Again I'm referring to the el Centro clubs, and not the more plastic, high end clubs.
I disagree that the Colombian strip club "is a total waste of time and pesos".[/QUOTE]Totally agree, out of Casas and Prepagos and Seeking Arrangements and street girls and Centro strip clubs I much prefer the Centro strip clubs, at least Coneijtas and Barre Ejectiva and sometimes Maracaibo. And the street girls come in 2nd for me. LOL I did have a lot of fun at Fase II but my mostly I think because wingman picked up the rather large bar tab and the girl I picked was spectacularly hot IMO. (and the condom shredded so we were bareback without knowing it, was my 1st time with Kimono condoms, I was like"WOW, these things do feel good! LOL).
But hard to beat no cover, cheap drinks, lots of cute girls with more showing up all the time and the option to leave with the girl if you want to pay the multa or go upstairs and do it there (although I prefer back at my hotel, those clubs get kind of hot) I was surprised when at least 2 girls turned my buddy down on a TLN deal at Conejitas on a Sat night though, I did tell him to just up the amount he was offering if he really wanted that particular girl, but he just moved down the line till one said "Yes". (I think I told him to start at 250 k which may have been a tad low on a packed Sat night for the A-team girls).
If you expect a US type strip club with lots of pole tricks and wild outfits and choreography you may be disappointed but if you think of it as a night time Casa where you can drink and sit with the girls and see them naked on stage first and have the option to leave with the girl for TLN or do them there you ought to be happy. At least it does it for me. And the top girls at the Centro Clubs could easily work at Fase II or Isla etc.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2051203]He means places like La Isla and Luna Lunera that are modelled after north american strip clubs. Remember the guy paying 800 k to a chica from La Isla to "hang out" with him in the evenings? Haha. There's also Isis in Cartagena which is always going to charge you the equivalent of $100 USD for an hour with a chica (back in May it was 280 k to fuck a girl) and all the alcohol is priced twice as much as it is anywhere else.
You're thinking of the centro strip clubs which are different.[/QUOTE]Fase Dos still charges 20 k for a beer (domestic or import). Mixed drinks are more. Of course the El Centro clubs are cheaper. I believe 6 kish.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2051198]Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer in Troya. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.[/QUOTE]Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.
Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.
Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something?
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?
It's not that complicated. Just read every report here and under the "Casa Blanca" thread for the past 3 years.
You want to stay at M1. Nothing happens at M2. You would only stay at M2 if M1 was totally booked out or if you were staying long term and wanted a cheaper room. They'll give you a good deal on a room if you're staying there for 2 months straight for example. M2 guests have access to M1 of course.
The girls arrive around 7-8 pm in the evening usually at the bar downstairs. M1 doesn't usually get too rowdy, so you should be ok in most of the rooms. If you get the cheapest room in M1 under the kitchen, you will be woken up every morning at 8 am as guys show up for the free breakfast.
In addition to reading these forums, you can hook up with other guys you meet at the hotel. Breakfast is also a good opportunity for making plans with other fellows to go out together into town, either during the day or later in the evening.
You will have a good time at Fase Dos. Fairly reasonable prices and decent line-up.
If you go to Centro, only visit during the day and make sure you go with a couple experienced guys -- just to be on the somewhat safer side.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2051254]Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something? They are not usually just handing out by the pool, although you might see some there on a fairly busy weekend.
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2051254]Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something?
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?[/QUOTE]Everything Ultrahappy said is correct. There is no action at M2 unless you bring a girl there. It does have a pool. At M1 there are usually a half dozen or so girls hanging at the pool daytime. In the cave at night, there are from 6-20 girls coming in & out all the time. It is great to meet guys at breakfast & lots make casa runs day or strip clubs late night if you don't pull a mansion girl. Sat. Nights are usually good for strip clubs, as it is "date" night as the chicas go out with their SO. Fase Dos is safe. The clubs in el Centro like barre executive & Maricabo are iffy. My buddy & I went there one night & the taxi driver signaled to us pointing to his eyes. We went in & were the only foreigners in the place. My buddy is a prison guard & did not feel safe there, so we didn't stay long. LOL I arrive on the 29th at M1. Look for the older asian guy.
[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2051269]Everything Ultrahappy said is correct. There is no action at M2 unless you bring a girl there. It does have a pool. At M1 there are usually a half dozen or so girls hanging at the pool daytime. In the cave at night, there are from 6-20 girls coming in & out all the time. It is great to meet guys at breakfast & lots make casa runs day or strip clubs late night if you don't pull a mansion girl. Sat. Nights are usually good for strip clubs, as it is "date" night as the chicas go out with their SO. Fase Dos is safe. The clubs in el Centro like barre executive & Maricabo are iffy. My buddy & I went there one night & the taxi driver signaled to us pointing to his eyes. We went in & were the only foreigners in the place. My buddy is a prison guard & did not feel safe there, so we didn't stay long. LOL I arrive on the 29th at M1. Look for the older asian guy.[/QUOTE]I've been the only Gringo in the centro clubs every time I went with no problems, but I do speak Spanish and don't mind places that seem a little iffy if you haven't traveled to a lot of 3rd world destinations. I have been every night of the week also with cute girls available all nights, more as it gets later, but did pull my fav at 6 pm on a Sunday at Conejitas.
FaseDos will cost you 2 to 3+ times what a Centro club will in drinks and women. But they do have a hot lineup. But 3 really hot ones at a Centro club Vs 10 super hot at FaseII, I only need one. LOL.
Hey fellas,
Before anyone gives the obvious answer that any gym with Paisas will be full of eye candy, I'm just wondering if there are any that stand out perhaps for having an abundance of University girls, MILFs, models, or generally just open to a coffee or "innocent" date after a workout. Conversely, any gyms that should be avoided for whatever reason.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2051254]
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?[/QUOTE]I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2051252]Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.
Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.[/QUOTE]I am lost again on this. In the strip clubs that I go to, chicks go on stage and put shaving cream all over their body then get a guy and rub all of their private parts on his face leaving the shaving cream all over him. I actually have pictures with some of the chicks' panties on my head. They also do lesbian shows with the shaving cream. They also have contests. They have a guy come on stage and see how long it will take to make him cum by either riding his dick or sucking him off while he is sitting in a chair. What kind of wild stage show does it take for you guys? Are you wanting them to bring up farm animals as well?
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2051254]If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?[/QUOTE]It escapes me as well. I used to live in Rio. Years ago I was walking downtown at dusk and saw a homeless guy breaking out someone's driver's side car window with a broomstick. I didn't say shit to him. I just kept walking past. Other than that I have witnessed nothing. Not to say that it is impossible for something adverse to happen. Back in January I walked from 4X4 to Lapa alone at 10 pm. Again, I didn't see shit and nobody said shit to me.
When walking in downtown Medellin at night all I have seen are a few dope fiends. Never seen them bothering anyone though. As a matter of fact, when we made the video and took the pictures of one of them a couple of years back, we were probably bothering him more than he was bothering us. Maybe it is just creepy to some guys. I recall a couple of stories of foreigners being assaulted, robbed and shot in Poblado being posted here on ISG. I do not recall any stories being posted of the same happening downtown though.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2051291]I am lost again on this. In the strip clubs that I go to, chicks go on stage and put shaving cream all over their body then get a guy and rub all of their private parts on his face leaving the shaving cream all over him. I actually have pictures with some of the chicks' panties on my head. They also do lesbian shows with the shaving cream. They also have contests. They have a guy come on stage and see how long it will take to make him cum by either riding his dick or sucking him off while he is sitting in a chair. What kind of wild stage show does it take for you guys? Are you wanting them to bring up farm animals as well?[/QUOTE]I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2051254]If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?[/QUOTE]"Medellin is now considered safer than the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans."
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn[/URL]#Crime.
It may depend on what you are used to also, if you live in a high-priced gated community suburb in the US it may seem dangerous. If you've been around Latin America enough it seems normal.
In the day, the busy streets seem perfectly safe to me, I am sure their are some muggings and pickpockets, but that's true in most big cities.
I've walked to and from the Centro strip clubs at 1 am, but it's only a block or 2 from my hotel, some of the side streets do look a little iffy.
One date took me on a 2 am smoke run in a cab somewhere in Centro and it was pretty scary outside, no Kandahar but I didn't want to get out of the cab. LOL. Lots of weirdos and homeless vagabonds, one 50 yo+ lady walking down the middle of the road in bra and panties, that was a little bizarre.
I have done many laps of the redlight blocks (vid links a few pages back) with no problems. But I don't wear a expensive watch or have a Nikon around my neck, or flash a wad or Galaxy 8, also don't dress up unless I am taking a cab to FaseII, dress more like I am on my way to Home Depot.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051297]I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.[/QUOTE]Yes, Please tell us where Mr. International. I've seen that on my trips to Tijuana at the Hong Kong club, but no where else.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051297]I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.[/QUOTE]In FASE II strip club there is a girl that uses a dildo on herself. And she lets guys dildo her also and some crazy dudes will eat her out. She looks OK, but there is no way I would choose to bang her. I got tired of going to FASE II myself. I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and I haven't been there. I used to go there a lot. They have lots of women there that dance and some don't dance that you can take them next door for sex. There are several other good strip clubs in Medellin but I just haven't gone to them in awhile.
I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and one of the first things I was told by a friend who lives here, is Abydos is closed. I guess it's been closed about 6 weeks now. I used to visit that place once in awhile. My friend bought 2 apartments in the middle of Abydos and Energy. Now one of them is closed. LOL he said the hot looking lady that worked at Abydos started working at Loutron, but I guess maybe she moved again. Me and my friend would have loved to bang her, but she always said no.
Anyways, besides seeing women that I already know, or swapping numbers with gringos, I've been to Energy 5 times now. I never get a GFE anymore. No kissing from any of the 5 girls, and always a CBJ. I used to get about 1/2 of them to kiss and 1/3 of them to BBBJ. Not anymore. I went to the place called Tantra last week and it wasn't bad. It's been a long time since I went there. I was shown only 3 girls and some where busy. Price is 80 K for 30 minutes, 100 K for 45 minutes and 120 K for an hour. I had a good looking lady with a nice body and good fucking, but once again no kissing and CBJ. Maybe I'm not as handsome as I use to be. From my previous lady friends I still get kissing, but only a Venezuelan lady I know does BBBJ. Medellin is starting to not be my heaven anymore.
Tantra website: [URL]http://tantramedellin.com/[/URL] It is oddly very close to where Pablo Escobar was killed. You can see where Pablo Escobar was killed and walk to bang some ladies.
[QUOTE=Lion55;2043542]I was in Medellin this week on a business trip and took advantage to get in some hobbying. As I only had evenings free, I hit up Energy, my go-to spot in the city. Prices haven't changed since my last visit in December; still 140 K for one hour. The lineup was good; about 10 chicas including a number of 8's and 9's. I sessioned twice with Julieta, a gorgeous Negra who I'd had fun with on a previous visit. She really gets into the action and is very responsive if you treat her right. On my third visit this week Julieta was off for the day so I selected Samantha, a youngish Morena with a cute smile and curly black hair. She is not quite a spinner but has a thin build with teacup sized breasts and a nice ass. Service was excellent, almost GFE. After I coaxed two O's from her through about 15 minutes of DATY I was rewarded with an awesome (and unsolicited) BBBJ (only the 2nd Energy chica from whom I've gotten an uncovered BJ, the other being Julieta). FS was great as well. Multple positions, finishing in K9 with a round of 69 thrown in. I hope she's still around next time I visit.[/QUOTE]I've been there 5 times in the last 4 weeks. My friend says Samantha is kind of new there and will BBBJ. I haven't seen her working every time I show up. I'm thinking she only works earlier in the days. The other 5 girls I have had there wouldn't kiss or BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2051422]I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and one of the first things I was told by a friend who lives here, is Abydos is closed. I guess it's been closed about 6 weeks now. I used to visit that place once in awhile. My friend bought 2 apartments in the middle of Abydos and Energy. Now one of them is closed. LOL he said the hot looking lady that worked at Abydos started working at Loutron, but I guess maybe she moved again. Me and my friend would have loved to bang her, but she always said no.
Anyways, besides seeing women that I already know, or swapping numbers with gringos, I've been to Energy 5 times now. I never get a GFE anymore. No kissing from any of the 5 girls, and always a CBJ. I used to get about 1/2 of them to kiss and 1/3 of them to BBBJ. Not anymore. I went to the place called Tantra last week and it wasn't bad. It's been a long time since I went there. I was shown only 3 girls and some where busy. Price is 80 K for 30 minutes, 100 K for 45 minutes and 120 K for an hour. I had a good looking lady with a nice body and good fucking, but once again no kissing and CBJ. Maybe I'm not as handsome as I use to be. From my previous lady friends I still get kissing, but only a Venezuelan lady I know does BBBJ. Medellin is starting to not be my heaven anymore.
Tantra website: [URL]http://tantramedellin.com/[/URL] It is oddly very close to where Pablo Escobar was killed. You can see where Pablo Escobar was killed and walk to bang some ladies.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised by the closure of Abydos. This place has been in decline for some time now. In my very few visits last year I sessioned only one chica by the name of Pamela who was very good, but in my very last visit late last year for the first time I visited without sessioning anyone and was charged 10 K pesos for viewing a very dismal LU.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2051287]I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2051466]Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.[/QUOTE]If your Centro is the same El Centro as mine you must have spent all your time sitting on the front steps of the Nutibara Hotel to call el centro safe day and night, by the way I have lived in el centro over the past 7 years, total time about 6 months per year.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2051287]I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.[/QUOTE]You do have a weird sense of humor, "wear lots of jewelery".
Luna Lunera across the street is fun and convenient.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2051458]I'm not surprised by the closure of Abydos. This place has been in decline for some time now. In my very few visits last year I sessioned only one chica by the name of Pamela who was very good, but in my very last visit late last year for the first time I visited without sessioning anyone and was charged 10 K pesos for viewing a very dismal LU.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Balboa;2051466]Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.[/QUOTE]I agree, I only walk around there in the day on the busy streets, at night if it's more then 2 blocks I'll take a cab.
If you're in El Poblado, the EAFIT University Gym is open to the public. Just tell the guards that you want to use the gym. If I recall correctly, the first visit is even free. A lot of eye candy there. But probably really hard to pull off a pickup. Work out, then have a bite to eat in the cafeteria area.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2051284]Hey fellas,
Before anyone gives the obvious answer that any gym with Paisas will be full of eye candy, I'm just wondering if there are any that stand out perhaps for having an abundance of University girls, MILFs, models, or generally just open to a coffee or "innocent" date after a workout. Conversely, any gyms that should be avoided for whatever reason.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2051729]If you're in El Poblado, the EAFIT University Gym is open to the public. Just tell the guards that you want to use the gym. If I recall correctly, the first visit is even free. A lot of eye candy there. But probably really hard to pull off a pickup. Work out, then have a bite to eat in the cafeteria area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Kazeu. Why do you say it would be really hard to pull off a pick up?
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2051879]Thanks for the info Kazeu. Why do you say it would be really hard to pull off a pick up?[/QUOTE]Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2051307]"Medellin is now considered safer than the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans."[/QUOTE]The sad news is that the [I]US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans are now less safer than Medellin[/I] LOL.
Ok, it's true Medellin and all Colombia has improved a lot.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2051995]Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response, however, it is laced with assumptions. And you don't even know how fat and ugly I am! While it is true that my upcoming trip is a mongering trip, I will also be looking for a place to stay long-term (beginning in the Fall) and, hence, looking for normal relationships and friendships with. This is why I asked the question. Hence my implying an "innocent" date. We'll see what happens!
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2051995]Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?[/QUOTE]Ouch. The truth hurts brother. LOL.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2051995]Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?[/QUOTE]I have lived in MDE and attended both EAFIT and UPB. EAFIT is like Harvard and UPB is like your State University. Pulling it off is quite difficult and you must run in same circles. If you look like a gringo geezer and act like a gringo geezer than they will pick that up immediately and be quite turned off. Also, EAFIT is a big anti-prepago community, it is posted in a lot of buildings. Unless you are Brad Pitt then I would try to keep it low key as possible.
I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2052102]I have lived in MDE and attended both EAFIT and UPB. EAFIT is like Harvard and UPB is like your State University. Pulling it off is quite difficult and you must run in same circles. If you look like a gringo geezer and act like a gringo geezer than they will pick that up immediately and be quite turned off. Also, EAFIT is a big anti-prepago community, it is posted in a lot of buildings. Unless you are Brad Pitt then I would try to keep it low key as possible.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2050730]I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.
You are correct Colombia lover. I happen to know quite a few EAFIT students who could never afford to attend on their own dime are there as part of their employers' tuition reimbursement programs. So it is not just the rich who are there. I also happen to know at least a few there who are in the game. The bottom line is it is not a point and click sort of venue.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2052114]I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2052114]I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]Your observation is correct on the candy girls. I've seen them both at both schools while attending both for spanish classes. I went to EAFIT for 3 months for spanish. UPB about a month. While in the administrative office, you can see the stickers on their desks and windows at the door "No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT and even more so in 2015. While visiting other friends buildings in Pablado, you can see these stickers on elevators. I've posted back in 2015, not sure on this thread but another about how the locals in Parque LLares are becoming more weary of gringos an prepagos. Now, I'm seeing and hearing of police harassing these interactions. LLeras was where the elite hung out until recently where there has been a lot of gringos engaging these activities and they are not liking this at all. But back to the anti-pregago, yes, it is known but very under the radar. Hell, I remember while in orientation in EAFIT, the assistant dean talking about and saying we don't want the school and MDE to have that reputation in front of 30 new spanish learning students (me being one of the students). They want MDE to be a cultural learning experience. Now the reality, YES, I have pulled a couple of these girls but I did it very descretely. As for the gym, Yes, I too have gone there in EAFIT. Surprisingly nice and while I was there for those months studying spanish, I went before or after class. Yes, there is eye candy and some of them are really nice and friendly. Go to work out and enjoy.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2052142]"No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT [/QUOTE]I think its from this campaign:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QizXSCtK0lI[/URL]
Unfortunately for them I've seen the same stickers or similar in clubs in parque lleras (in the elevator of one club at least) and the club is full of prepagos on weekdays. They have a point though. I'm not very comfortable picking up a chica in Parque Lleras out in the open. I don't mind it done discreetly in clubs but when they approach your patio seat it makes everything awkward. They should take a page out of Cartagena. The hookers don't come out until late at night in the clock tower plaza and the only people out that late want to party anyway.
I find the "not to sex tourism" campaign almost laughable because it is so over the top. To me, it screams "I'm embarrassed about this so I'm going to take a holier than thou position". I remember seeing different versions of it in Colombia going back to the mid 90's. Of course no country wants to have a Thailand type reputation. I don't think it's positive for anyone to have obnoxious honky tonk behavior going on in view of people who don't want to see it (including me at times when I'm out with business colleagues). I have a problem with the posters and window stickers with high heels and defiant slogans because it just throws it into people's faces unnecessarily. It's as if the people behind the campaign think those stickers are going to work like garlic keeping vampires away. It's just as easy to post a discrete sign saying the business has a right to refuse service to anyone, then quietly turn away the cargo shorts & Harley Davidson tee shirt crowd with provocatively dressed dates with an explanation that all tables are reserved.
Now that Colombia is coming out of FARC era of having a reputation for kidnappings and violence danger (60 Minutes feature in the US and various BBC reports on the subject among others), the government wants its share of tourism dollars from wealthy countries. Like any other tourism, sex tourism generates revenue. And it is a constant as long as there isn't a massive shift in the national economy (see below). Colombia launched several professional international tourism promotion campaigns in the past couple of years. It is trying to grow the industry and prevent sex tourism interfering with that growth.
I think the Colombian government knows it would have to greatly increase social programs to rein in sex tourism. Wealthy sectors have no interest in doing that because it would mean higher taxes and paying their employees higher wages. What the wealthy sectors want is what matters. As long as it doesn't interfere with their peaceful enjoyment of the country, wealthy Colombians are happy to reap the benefits of sex tourism and pretend it doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=SBeach25;2052142]Your observation is correct on the candy girls. I've seen them both at both schools while attending both for spanish classes. I went to EAFIT for 3 months for spanish. UPB about a month. While in the administrative office, you can see the stickers on their desks and windows at the door "No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT and even more so in 2015. While visiting other friends buildings in Pablado, you can see these stickers on elevators. I've posted back in 2015, not sure on this thread but another about how the locals in Parque LLares are becoming more weary of gringos an prepagos. Now, I'm seeing and hearing of police harassing these interactions. LLeras was where the elite hung out until recently where there has been a lot of gringos engaging these activities and they are not liking this at all. But back to the anti-pregago, yes, it is known but very under the radar. Hell, I remember while in orientation in EAFIT, the assistant dean talking about and saying we don't want the school and MDE to have that reputation in front of 30 new spanish learning students (me being one of the students). They want MDE to be a cultural learning experience. Now the reality, YES, I have pulled a couple of these girls but I did it very descretely. As for the gym, Yes, I too have gone there in EAFIT. Surprisingly nice and while I was there for those months studying spanish, I went before or after class. Yes, there is eye candy and some of them are really nice and friendly. Go to work out and enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Queens35;2052123]People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.[/QUOTE]Ha, sounds like you are jealous they are doing well? Well, there are obviously a lot of "us"! Have fun staying home next Sunday counting the pesos you saved!
El Mechanico.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2052123]People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.[/QUOTE]My only regret is that there isn't another Mansion in town to fleece me. I'd love to have more than one option of places that "fleece" me. Other than that, I consider ourselves fortunate that we have this venue here and that it still is able to continue operating despite the many government and community pressures otherwise.
[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2052402]Ha, sounds like you are jealous they are doing well?? Well, there are obviously a lot of "us"!! Have fun staying home next Sunday counting the pesos you saved!!
El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I'm part of the " us", staying at the mansion later this week & will be at the party.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2051995]Jeez....
came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.[/QUOTE]I think for some of us, we can afford it but it is illegal in our home countries.
Go to Loutron, they will fleece you very well. Albeit a little differently than Mansion.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2052420]My only regret is that there isn't another Mansion in town to fleece me. I'd love to have more than one option of places that "fleece" me. Other than that, I consider ourselves fortunate that we have this venue here and that it still is able to continue operating despite the many government and community pressures otherwise.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2052362]I find the "not to sex tourism" campaign almost laughable because it is so over the top. To me, it screams "I'm embarrassed about this so I'm going to take a holier than thou position". I remember seeing different versions of it in Colombia going back to the mid 90's. Of course no country wants to have a Thailand type reputation. I don't think it's positive for anyone to have obnoxious honky tonk behavior going on in view of people who don't want to see it (including me at times when I'm out with business colleagues). I have a problem with the posters and window stickers with high heels and defiant slogans because it just throws it into people's faces unnecessarily. It's as if the people behind the campaign think those stickers are going to work like garlic keeping vampires away. It's just as easy to post a discrete sign saying the business has a right to refuse service to anyone, then quietly turn away the cargo shorts & Harley Davidson tee shirt crowd with provocatively dressed dates with an explanation that all tables are reserved.
Now that Colombia is coming out of FARC era of having a reputation for kidnappings and violence danger (60 Minutes feature in the US and various BBC reports on the subject among others), the government wants its share of tourism dollars from wealthy countries. Like any other tourism, sex tourism generates revenue. And it is a constant as long as there isn't a massive shift in the national economy (see below). Colombia launched several professional international tourism promotion campaigns in the past couple of years. It is trying to grow the industry and prevent sex tourism interfering with that growth.
I think the Colombian government knows it would have to greatly increase social programs to rein in sex tourism. Wealthy sectors have no interest in doing that because it would mean higher taxes and paying their employees higher wages. What the wealthy sectors want is what matters. As long as it doesn't interfere with their peaceful enjoyment of the country, wealthy Colombians are happy to reap the benefits of sex tourism and pretend it doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it needs to be "over the top. " The people it's aimed at don't understand subtle. If they did, nobody would notice the sex tourism.
You've probably seen them around. They're the guys feeling up last night's TLN at the breakfast table or loudly discussing their activities with buddies. They're the ones who think any hot girl, whether she's at the gym, the pool, at a club or just shopping is available for a price. They think being a gringo who can afford to visit Medellin makes them special.
I have no problem with partaking in what is readily available. I do so when I want. But I also keep a low profile. None of the locals that I deal with see any reason to complain about my behavior.
I deal with the problem tourists at least a few times a week. They are the guys who assume the women I work with are all available for a price. If any of them have a price, nobody has come close to it yet.
[URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/emergencia-en-guatape-por-naufrago-de-barco-CJ6784567[/URL]
Sadly a tourist boat capsized today in Guatape. I took a similar boat on my latest trip.
[QUOTE=Questner;2052522][URL]http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/emergencia-en-guatape-por-naufrago-de-barco-CJ6784567[/URL]
Sadly a tourist boat capsized today in Guatape. I took a similar boat on my latest trip.[/QUOTE]Ouch, 100 people on the boat, all headed to the top decks for the best view. I could see how she would be top-heavy.
I was in Medellin Thursday, May 25th through Thursday, June 1st. I go there for work and the culture of the city in addition to the women, so my apologies in advance if I'm not as prolific as the rest of you doing 3 girls a day ha ha.
I rented an apartment through Airbnb that was a 10-15 minute walk up the hill from Parque Lleras.
Thursday night I got in late and didn't feel like hitting El Centro so I went to Fase II. The place was quite packed, similar to previous trips. Entry was 10 k, but the doorman tried to act like the 20 k I gave him was the price. After I caught him he said he should have 10 k tip, to which I said 'Por que?' Anyway, he eventually relented and gave me my money. Beers inside were 20 k (both domestic or import), dancer tip was 2 k, and I believe a session was 190 k. There were some nice looking girls, but most were engaged by larger groups of what appeared to be American bachelor parties with tables near the stage. I stayed for a little over an hour and left. The dancers I chatted with said that Thursdays and Fridays are busiest and Saturdays can actually be a bit slow.
Friday afternoon I hit up the centro casas. New Life had the standard set of all shapes and sizes, but nothing special. Cost was 50 k for 30 minutes. This is my second time there since the remodel and I'm still not sure if I like it or not. It feels like you're going to the doctors office or something the way it's set up ha ha. Overall 15 girls at 1 pm on Friday. Next went to Zandalay which I'm beginning to like more and more. There is a bar where you can hang out in the front, beers are 8 k, and girls are friendly. There were 8 chicas at 2 pm on that Friday. Last went to Archimedes which is a little further north and more of a locals place. It was my go to a couple years back, but there's less and less every time I go there. This time there were maybe 5 girls and 10+ guys. May have put this one on hold. Cost is approximately 35 k for girl and 15 k for the room. You pay the girl both afterwards.
Saturday I had a date with a college girl from previous trips. I gave her a moderately priced female watch ($50-$75) from the states and she was over the moon. Not something for everyone, but I know I'll be seeing her again and the small gift usually leads to automatic all nights for cheaper. We went for dinner and then met up with some friends at Gusto after we found Sky Bar was closed. Since there were 5 guys and a handful of girls we did bottle service. I believe it was 375 k for a bottle of Absolut Vodka. Between 5 guys not all that bad and the girls enjoyed dancing with each of us and taking photos of themselves. The girl spend the night, 3 sessions, and I gave her 200 k to "help with rent. ".
Sunday night through Wednesday night I had a mix of girls from sites, another favorite college girl from a previous trip, and went out with two non-working girls that I met. One at the gym and one at Sky Bar in Parque Lleras. For nice drinking dates I would recommend Envy at the top of the Charlee (drinks start at 25 k or so, but you can each have one and enjoy the view for hours), or Woka which is also in Lleras and a bit hidden. The latter also an intimate vibe, nice drinks, and small plates. The girls all enjoyed going to these places because it was more of scene. Envy also is pretty big on one girl / one guy so it can be hard to get in if you show up after 8 pm without a date. Keep that in mind.
Thursday night I stopped by Lindas Chicas with a friend. The place has gone up market with the charging 300 k for 1 to 1. 5 hours. They did have a good selection and said they could call many more girls, but it was not for me. I would avoid in the future.
Closing Thoughts.
§ Parque Lleras seems to be as busy as ever with a healthy mix of new restaurants and bars with old stand bys.
§ Numerous rental property buildings going up everywhere. With the additional capacity I'm hopeful that rates will go down.
§ Gusto still looks to be a pick up spot, but girls are very expensive. They seem to start at 300 k and if you don't speak Spanish or are naive they'll contort the agreement to be USD.
§ Find some Facebook girls if you can, it will make your life easier.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2052573]I believe it was 375 k for a bottle of Absolut Vodka. Between 5 guys not all that bad and the girls enjoyed dancing with each of us and taking photos of themselves. The girl spend the night, 3 sessions, and I gave her 200 k to "help with rent. ".
[/QUOTE]To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2052573]
Woka which is also in Lleras and a bit hidden.
[/QUOTE]Woka is a great intimate club.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2052573]
Thursday night I stopped by Lindas Chicas with a friend. The place has gone up market with the charging 300 k for 1 to 1. 5 hours. They did have a good selection and said they could call many more girls, but it was not for me. I would avoid in the future.
[/QUOTE]Fuck that noise. I'm not paying upward of 200 k and no way I'm doing even that at a centro casa. Some guys are throwing stupid money down there for no reason.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2052573]
Gusto still looks to be a pick up spot, but girls are very expensive. They seem to start at 300 k and if you don't speak Spanish or are naive they'll contort the agreement to be USD.
[/QUOTE]The trick to Gusto is to go after midnight. The remaining girls will go for 200 k. Early on they ask for stupid prices but as the night comes to a close they'll lower their price. My route starts at 9-10 pm at the Beer store patio, and do a bit of bar hopping until midnight then hit Gusto if I haven't picked up any. The quality of women in Gusto isn't that great to begin with. Most seem like semi-pros who come down after work. Better off going to Fase Dos if you're going to spend 300 k that night. That's drinks + a fuck at the strip club.
I'm in Medellin Wednesday. I have a feeling the 4th of July celebrations will mean the city is flooded with overpaying sex tourists. Will report back next week.
Thank you for knocking some sense into these people. Guys stop driving the prices up with the freelancer! I have never paid more than 150 k for TLN. Ill be there tmrw til Saturday. Hit me if yall want to hang.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2052753]To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.
Woka is a great intimate club.
Fuck that noise. I'm not paying upward of 200 k and no way I'm doing even that at a centro casa. Some guys are throwing stupid money down there for no reason.
The trick to Gusto is to go after midnight. The remaining girls will go for 200 k. Early on they ask for stupid prices but as the night comes to a close they'll lower their price. My route starts at 9-10 pm at the Beer store patio, and do a bit of bar hopping until midnight then hit Gusto if I haven't picked up any. The quality of women in Gusto isn't that great to begin with. Most seem like semi-pros who come down after work. Better off going to Fase Dos if you're going to spend 300 k that night. That's drinks + a fuck at the strip club.
I'm in Medellin Wednesday. I have a feeling the 4th of July celebrations will mean the city is flooded with overpaying sex tourists. Will report back next week.[/QUOTE].
Hola,
Has anyone been to club Fantasia located in el centro. I heard today that is where the Venezuelans go.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2052753]To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Outdoing their buddies is the highest form of their materialism.
I think there was a report that the ship had no life jackets on board!
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2052531]Ouch, 100 people on the boat, all headed to the top decks for the best view. I could see how she would be top-heavy.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, just want to say thanks for a good trip report! I enjoyed reading it and getting caught up on the scene. I arrive Saturday after a 2 year hiatus. I'll try to leave a report as good as yours.
Good work.
[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2052942]Thank you for knocking some sense into these people. Guys stop driving the prices up with the freelancer! I have never paid more than 150 k for TLN.[/QUOTE]But that is an advantage of staying downtown. If you are staying in Poblado then they know you will pay it. When they see our 35K hotels they know we are not about to give them nowhere near what the Poblado guys give.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2052965]But that is an advantage of staying downtown. If you are staying in Poblado then they know you will pay it. When they see our 35K hotels they know we are not about to give them nowhere near what the Poblado guys give.[/QUOTE]You can get 200 k for short time in El Poblado quiet easily. Then again 200 k is big money for centro girls.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2052986]You can get 200 k for short time in El Poblado quiet easily. Then again 200 k is big money for centro girls.[/QUOTE]Big money? That's much more than an understatement!
During my roaming tours around 1 am-2 am in Prado, Perpetuo Socorro and Nikitao, say over the last 5 years, I found some pretty ones who did not try to overcharge me because foreigner and requested 20 k (standard low-end SW fee for locals). In some cases, counter-offering 40 k-50 k gave me an outstanding RoI, rewarding me with some of the most outstanding experiences of my life (duly reported here, but years ago, which means maybe thousands MDE thread pages ago). There's a lot of humanity and gems to discover there, but digging is not trivial, and rubbish is overwhelming. (Not to repeat, once again, that walking around after midnight in Centro is a challenge and should be avoided in any case unless one really knows where to go and how to move)
Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2053106]Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?[/QUOTE]You can buy Viagra at some pharmacies, but why buy it when you can get the generic sildenafil (sildenafilo, in spanish) for a fraction of the cost. 50 MG pills costs 30 to 50 cents each, and are available over the counter with no questions asked. I have found the best price at the pharmacy just outside Park Lleras, across calle 10 from Mondongo's restaurant.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2053106]Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?[/QUOTE]Since you took much longer to write that than using the "search" function above this page, I'd say that simple "lazy" does not apply here. We are dealing with something different.
Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.
[QUOTE=Cheerfull;2052944]Hola,
Has anyone been to club Fantasia located in el centro. I heard today that is where the Venezuelans go.[/QUOTE]Night Club or strip club?
Address?
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266]Hey guys,
The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it[/QUOTE]Security guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2053350]Security guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.[/QUOTE]Security guard didn't fuck him. He fucked himself.
AirBnB is much different from a hotel. The owner is usually known in the building, they have neighbors to worry about and complaints to deal with, even if the guest doesn't cause any problems. If it's a good building in an estrato 6 neighborhood the neighbors don't want prepagos in the building. They don't want their kids around it. There's also the issue of bringing an estrato 2 or 3 girl to an estrato 6 building. Unless she's there to clean the people believe she doesn't belong in their neighborhood.
That's why you ask before you book.
It's also a good idea, if you have a question about Bogota, to post about it in the Bogota thread.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053362]Security guard didn't fuck him. He fucked himself.
AirBnB is much different from a hotel. The owner is usually known in the building, they have neighbors to worry about and complaints to deal with, even if the guest doesn't cause any problems. If it's a good building in an estrato 6 neighborhood the neighbors don't want prepagos in the building. They don't want their kids around it. There's also the issue of bringing an estrato 2 or 3 girl to an estrato 6 building. Unless she's there to clean the people believe she doesn't belong in their neighborhood.
That's why you ask before you book.
It's also a good idea, if you have a question about Bogota, to post about it in the Bogota thread.[/QUOTE]Spot on advice. Many apartments are not allowed to even rent or operate a Airbnb in the building so this could put the owner in a very bad situation.
TTM.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266]Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at dozens of airbnb apartments in Medellin and never had a problem like that. But I usually pay for an extra guest if there is a charge for an extra person and if they ask. I tell them I have girlfriends that spend the night. At any rate. I always book the apartment for two.
And I would never share an apartment with another monger. Just too much traffic and if they don't know what they are doing could bring in an [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] chick or drugged out nut case or one that will steal your shit. Into the apartment.
I don't know if you can comment on her comment on airbnb. But I would deny that your friends where prepagos and point out that she didn't say guests weren't allowed in the apartment profile. How the hell would she know what they were unless they were low class street walkers. And if they were. You should have been staying at a 35 mill a night hotel in el centro. Instead of a nice apartment in a nice building.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266]... However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.[/QUOTE]I doubt that review will have an effect with hosts who allow guests. I always tell a host what I plan regarding guests and ask if that is permissible. If, in fact, there is nothing in the listing regarding guests, I would initiate a dispute in airbnb about the review. Some of the listings don't specifically say "no guests", but will have wording that says that between the lines. If it says the building is occupied by local families and they must be respected, that pretty much gives the host grounds to enforce "no prostitutes".
Yes, you will be able to get another airbnb apartment, but only from hosts who accept sex tourists.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266]Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.[/QUOTE]
I visited Colombia June 16 to 25. My trip was split between Medellin and Cartagena. It was mainly a tourist trip with a mongering twist so our lodging selection was based mainly from a tourist point of view so my selection does not make sense from a mongers perspective. I stayed in hotel Dorado la 70 from June 16 to 18, Dann Carlton from 18 to 20, Dann Cartagena from 20 to 24 and a final day back to Dorado la 70. While the cost of Dorado was $58 per night both Dann's were around $85, split between two persons. All hotels included breakfast. I arrived to Medellin around 10:30 pm And used Bancolombia ATM to retire money. I got 2,929 pesos per dollar while the conversion rate was 2,950 pesos per $1.
My cousin and I took a cab to Hotel Dorado in Carrera 70, comuna Laureles. Laureles is 90% estrato 4 or 5, the remaining 10% is split between estratos 2 to 4. According to official data, estratos 4 to 6 families on average have 4 members while estrato 1 or 2 has 6. Poorest people tend to have more babies or to split costs of a home. We paid 60,000 pesos for a cab to Laureles, which is not far from Centro. Trip from airport was around 45 minutes. We arrived to Carrera 70 area which is a very nice area with a great night life. Mostly locals frequent the area, we see very few tourists there which is nice to me. The hotel is a modern building with marble floors, restaurant, activities rooms and a rooftop bar and gym with sauna. It has a casino attached to the building. The room was very nice with the exception of harder than box spring mattress. At the end it was easy to sleep there because we got drunk every night there. We walked and sample a few bars and eateries. There are hundreds of places along the Carrera 70 mixed with other useful places as for example drugstores, supermarkets and others. A few thousand people populated the area every day and every night.
The place is near the Girardot soccer stadium were the finals Nacional de Medellin vs. Deportivo Cali were scheduled on Sunday June 18. The finals helped to the festive ambiance of the area.
Although I do not see any evident working girl around it is not hard to meet locals. Around 2:00 am I met a local lady, we had a great time chatting and dancing. We exchanged numbers but we do not meet again during the trip.
I mostly drink Aguila or Pilsen beer, around 2500 to 3000 pesos mixed with aguardiente shots, 3000 to 4000 pesos. Food was incredibly cheap, we exchanged a huge picada (ribs, beef, chicken, sausage, fries and arepas) for around $10 US. Party usually ends around 4:00 am On Carrera 70.
UBER VERSUS TAXI While generally Uber is cheaper most time we got better fares in metered cab rides. We got a 9,000 pesos taxi ride from Envigado to Lleras while Uber was quoting 21,000 pesos. It was because of 2 x Uber fares after Medellin Nacional victory over Cali so we used taxis more than Uber.
NEAR HOTEL We stocked our room with water and munchies from nearby Exito supermarket. There was a couple drugstores around. We had almost everything within walking distance. Hotel minibar was not expensive, most items were around $1 to $2.
Next day we go to Santa Fe Mall, Lleras and around the city for beer and aguardiente drinking. Back to Carrera 70 we go to hotel rooftop bar and met the lady who added a local paisa flavor to our trip. We spent from 7:00 pm To 2:00 am Drinking and chatting with her. It was enough time to earn a best friends forever status. After her work shift we go to a nearby place to drink. She invited us next night to her mother's bar around Parque Envigado to enjoy the soccer finals. We finished the night drunk again around 4:00 am.
We moved to Dann Carlton in Poblado on Sunday. From Dann It is a 8 minute walk to Lleras. It is a very nice area of the city. We spent a couple of hours on Lleras, most places were closed.
Early that night we took an Uber to Envigado, it was around 11,000 pesos ride. Envigado was a pleasant surprise. The area around Envigado Park has the local nice small town flavor. There are bars, restaurants and department stores around mixed with churches and local government buildings. We met a guy who is the best friend of our lady friend. He took us after the game to a street they call La Raya. It is a few blocks from Envigado Park. It is a red district street. Apparently locals call some red zones La Raya because there is also a red zone La Raya in Itagui. There was a decent amount of streetgirls with some cuties. I chose a young 18 yr lady, 50,000 pesos was the cost per one hour. The girl was nice and performed decent sex, she was very pretty with large natural boobs. My cousin choose an older lady, he said he was satisfied. We went back to the bar and the park was full of people celebrating the Nacional de Medellin championship. While Envigado has his own soccer team it do not have the tradition the Nacional has. We went with our lady friend to Lleras to celebrate with Nacional hinchas. We get covered in flour and shaving cream during the celebration. It was a funny experience.
Next day we went with our new friends to Guatapé. It is a nice natural area with a large rock and lake around. We split all expenses among all us except that my cousin and I invited dinner. We ate in El Malecon restaurant which is near where the boat sunk last Sunday. I recommend the punta de anca steak, a juicy near one pound steak with sides for around $6. We went back to Medellin early that night, they took us to the hotel and that night my cousin and I decided to visit Luna Lunera, a place somebody recommended instead of Conejitas. Our Uber driver do not found Luna Lunera, his GPS took us to Pueblito Paisa entrance. But hey, he said there was a better place near our hotel. Minutes later we were inside Phase II. Girls were pretty, some danced until full nudity. Drinks were expensive, mostly around 20 k to 25 k. Girls 190,000. I ended choosing a blonde girl. We went to a room area next to the club and finished our business inside a nice room. Good covered blowjob, nice body but everything else sucks. She show me the enthusiasm I always showed when I go to church when I was a kid. We finished and I told my cousin to go back to the hotel. We arrived back to Dann Carlton and there were two guys that we saw in Phase II with a gorgeous tall busty girl from Phase II. They were checking her in.
We go to our room but 20 minutes later my cousin got the munchies so we decided to go down to a street food seller near the hotel. We go down to the lobby and there were the guys and the lady again. They accused the girl of stealing money inside the room. When we go out the hotel two police guys arrived. We got to the food place but they were closing. Back to the hotel we saw the lady giving money back to the guys in front of the police so apparently the story ended well to the guys.
My cousin and I ordered two juicy burgers with fries room service. Really great burgers, not over expensive. That way we ended our first Medellin part of the trip.
TINDER. I received multiple Tinder girl requests. Most girls were straight to the point stating they were prepagos and requesting from 150 k to 200 k. I got a few numbers just in case. Medellin is a city I like a lot, it has a pleasant climate just the way I like it, lots of pretty girls, very nice people, we had a nice touristic first part of our trip. Next day we moved to Cartagena were we got more into mongering and things got weird, funny, unexpected and risky. Cartagena extensive report and final fun day in Medellin report coming in the next few days. (With pictures).
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266]Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.[/QUOTE]Most regular people renting private apartments don't want hookers in their place. Always ask. I'd say that even if they allow "guests", that doesn't necessarily mean that they allow hookers.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2053350]Security guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.[/QUOTE]She should know better? You mean that she should EXPECT that every gringo will bring hookers to her apartment, right?
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2053399]I visited Colombia June 16 to 25. My trip was split between Medellin and Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2053307]Night Club or strip club?
Address?[/QUOTE]Strip club where guys go to get laid. Paisa told me her gorgeous Venezuela friend works there occasionally and her Venezuela friends work there as well. Paisa said would get the address to the place.
[QUOTE=Queens35;2053406]She should know better? You mean that she should EXPECT that every gringo will bring hookers to her apartment, right?[/QUOTE]What is with this attitude about airbnb rentals? You are paying to rent a place. It's like renting a car and being told you can't take it to some areas. The rules clearly didn't tell him he can't bring a chica back. As long as he wasn't being a pest and playing loud music I don't see an issue. If the apartment is some sacred place then don't treat it like a rental car and rent it out on airbnb.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;2053266] will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.[/QUOTE]Sucks that happened to you brother. I tried to private message you but it's not allowing me with you. Is your pm feature off or are you not a paying member? Anyway can you give us the airbnb URL you had issues with so the rest of us can avoid them? Thanks.
pepolesbuddy.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2053484]What is with this attitude about airbnb rentals? You are paying to rent a place. It's like renting a car and being told you can't take it to some areas. The rules clearly didn't tell him he can't bring a chica back. As long as he wasn't being a pest and playing loud music I don't see an issue. If the apartment is some sacred place then don't treat it like a rental car and rent it out on airbnb.[/QUOTE]The attitude is because an AirBnB rental is not like a rental car. A rental car, like a hotel room, is a completely anonymous piece of corporate property. If you have a friend who works at Hertz and you see a Hertz rental in the parking lot of a gay bar, do you immediately assume your friend is in the bar?
Years ago I went to a strip club and parked my car facing the street, instead of in the back. Some friends saw the car and stopped in. If I had a wife or girlfriend, it could have been a problem. Instead it just meant I had to put up with some guys who weren't much fun in a strip club.
AirBnB is like handing your car keys over to a complete stranger. Wherever people see your car they will assume you are involved. While you probably have rules; don't drink and drive, don't smoke in the car, be careful, you probably aren't going to list every type of alcohol and every brand and type of smoking material that you want them to avoid. You might not even mention some rules, because to you they are common sense rules, or because they are outside your awareness.
Bringing prostitutes into your home isn't normal. It doesn't matter where, society sees it as improper conduct. A woman, living in a very religious, Catholic country, especially in a good neighborhood, doesn't see prostitution. It does not exist in her awareness. It's only something that happens in the bad places where she never goes. She doesn't feel the need to specify "no prostitutes" just like you probably don't ask houseguests "don't murder the neighbor kids. " In her world nobody would do such a thing.
AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".
My resentment is more for the harsh review, I mean I understand where she comes from as a home owner don't get me wrong, if I had a apartment or home I am renting through airbnb a guest who would participate in such activities would give me a sense of unease. Again when she called me to tell me to leave her apartment, I responded in a nice manner, I complied and that I understood I would leave immediately and apologized and everything. In spite of that the next day we met, she had money that she gave me for the remaining days that I had booked it, she was of course obviously pissed I was still polite and calm and apologized in person, and to put a review that I was a "terrible" experience, a sex tourist (even though there is noevidence poiting that the girls were pros, I mean yes they were but its not like she had evidence they could have been my "friends) and labeling me as rude and an unwanted guest. The harsh and over exaggerated review is what really bothers me as opposed to her anger as a host.
Damn. Strong points by both Jj and YK. Some guys get so wrapped up in the hobby that they begin to consider it normal. Well it may be their normal, but everybody does not have the same idea of normal. Commom sense ain't so common; that is why contracts exist. It has been said time and time again that locals take hookers to love motels. Foreigners have no shame and bring them right through their front door of where they are staying.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2053307]Night Club or strip club?
Address?[/QUOTE]There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. [URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor/fantasia/2063[/URL].
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2053632]Damn. Strong points by both Jj and YK. Some guys get so wrapped up in the hobby that they begin to consider it normal. Well it may be their normal, but everybody does not have the same idea of normal. Commom sense ain't so common; that is why contracts exist. It has been said time and time again that locals take hookers to love motels. Foreigners have no shame and bring them right through their front door of where they are staying.[/QUOTE]I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building. I see the same people in the elevator week after week. If you've spent any time in Medellin elevators you know it's almost impossible to avoid some type of greeting. I don't want the smiles and greetings to stop. I don't want people to not get on the elevator when they see me on it. I don't want my neighbors to complain about everything to try and get me out.
I can go to any casa, strip club or massage parlor, I can go to a love motel, or just rent a hotel room. If a friend comes and stays for a few days I would give him the same options.
People should ask themselves "Would I do this at my house?" "Would I do this at my parent's or friend's house?" when they are considering an AirBnB. If not, find a hotel, or clear it with the host.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053657]I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building. [/QUOTE]Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2053669]Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?[/QUOTE]Define "looks like a prepago. " Some of the models dress very sexy. Even my roommate often wears clothes that would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US. But none of them are prepagos. They are in the building for a purpose: recording video, photo shoot, meeting with one of the bosses who lives in the building, training, or just visiting another model who lives in the building.
What I mean is that I won't bring a prepago into the building. If I'm paying someone for sex, I'm not bringing them home with me. How they look or dress matter.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053605]... AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".[/QUOTE]Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2053656]There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. [URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor/fantasia/2063[/URL].[/QUOTE]Casa de Fantasia.
Calle 57 # 50-19.
Medellin.
Fantasia.
Cra 46 # 57 A-21.
Medellin.
Not sure how current that list is though.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2053727]Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.[/QUOTE]Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.
I assume you've been in a hotel. Do you know who stays in hotels? Travelers. They are there for a few days or weeks and then they are gone. The people paying for the rooms are constantly changing. While they might write a bad review, their effect on the hotel is minimal, especially a large, established hotel with hundreds of reviews. The hotel probably has a guest policy, but it's not a big deal.
Have you ever lived in a condo or townhouse? Almost all the residents are there for many years. They don't move to a new apartment every 6 to 10 days. If there are 4 or 5 short term rentals in a building of 100 apartments, the short term owners are grossly outnumbered. The other residents have the power to cause serious problems. If you own those 4 apartments and the administration is pressured to require 3 month minimum leases for any rental units, or administration fees are raised for short term rentals, or they charge a fee to register short term renters, your AirBnB investment just went south.
If you continue to say "fuck you" to the AirBnB hosts, you and everyone else who wants to bring someone back, will lose that option.
It's not difficult. Ask first. If you ask first you don't get a bad renter review. If you ask first you don't find out that the girl you're ready to fuck isn't getting in to the building. If you ask first you don't end up paying for another taxi and a short time hotel and another taxi and an extra tip for the girl because you wasted 30 minutes arguing with security.
If you ask first you don't cause another AirBnB host to refuse to rent to gringos because they don't respect the owner's rules.
So, I made it to Medellin.
I never managed to book at Hotel M, because they are kind of incapable. I sent email and when I wanted to confirm they didn't reply back. Then I called and the guy told me to send email. Then someone called me back on my voicemail and whatever.
Another member recommended I try Hotel Kong at Calle 55 x Carrera 43, centro. This is a love hotel that you can book on Booking dot com. I booked that super cheap. I think they only do during the week not on weekends. This here is not comparable with the Brazilian motel. I never understand why they wouldn't put the full mirror set around the bed. But my room has a bathtub / Jacuzzi right here. The place can be loud as they have full sound systems in every room. When I came in one guy was doing it and it sounded like a disco was going on at that side of the building.
I am only here as a fall-back option. But it gave me the chance to scout out downtown. During the day time and early evening it is how downtowns are, lots of shopping and open air markets. In the early evening the whole place turns into a brothel it seems. Tons of chicas walking and standing idly about. Most of them leave me with disgust though. I tried to get turned on, but I have a hard time. Even in Panama at Habano's Cafe, the way the putas are presenting themselves is turning me off. Because it's all so fake. Once you are with them and you haven't specified everything exactly the nagging and negating starts. No interest. The street lingering ones are annoying and really ruin their own business. Because they stand in group and when you want to get a better view of one, the others get in the way. And when they start hollering at me, that gives me the rest for me to just walk away.
I saw a very curious scheme around the Museum park. There are really young ones who "sell lollipops" obviously it is about chuipeta. There was one girl who got my attention and I started to want her. Cute face and now I am thinking she might even have been some months pregnant. I approached her and asked what she is "offering" with those lollipops. Unfortunately again the others barged in and ruined it with lewd talking. I asked that girl what her age was, she replied 18. My next question would have been if she could prove it. But all that annoying gacking of the others turned me off and I walked away. I am sure with those lollipop girls you need to check the papers three times and do have the hotel check them too. It might even be a trap as they seemed to approach particularly older men. Oh, I forgot, when I looked in the girl's face up close I got turned off. May be without the other's gacking I could have appreciated the strange traces as exotic, but it was to tense a situation.
That is the problem there, you can't really sit down and drink a beer while watching the girls go by. You have to walk around. Everyone is walking around, I saw some other nervous gringos on the hunt.
I didn't feel unsafe at all, but then I am a lot in Rio and to me Medellin and Bogota appear well more civilized, almost European. The country side of Medellin is beautiful by the way, as you come down from the airport, it is like you drive through Switzerland. Oh yes, and the airport bus was very convenient. I just took the one to Centro until the final stop, and then hopped into a Taxi for the last mile to Hotel Kong.
Now I am resting and later will check out Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. Just to have seen it once. My goa ls to bring a girl back for the night to use the jacuzzi and like I said, I want to have one in my bed every night. I love to wake up to a warm and soft girl.
For the rest of my days I have lined up a multi day blind date. Unfortunately I didn't take the time to plan it out earlier so it failed because of last minute. My style is being picked up from the airport. That failed. But now I have that girl locked down for the rest of the 3 nights until I leave. I dunno, I suck like that. I am not good with the short time, I enjoy more something steady. We'll see how it goes with her.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053754]Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2053447]Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?[/QUOTE]While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaçao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.
Different strokes for different folks.
[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;2053789]While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.[/QUOTE]
The carrera 46 address is accurate. The place is also known as "Andromeda". It's pretty good, they usually have a tout out front to grab guys headed toward Zandaly around the corner. It's two steep flights up from the street so it might be a problem for some.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2053736]Casa de Fantasia.
Calle 57 # 50-19.
Medellin.
Fantasia.
Cra 46 # 57 A-21.
Medellin.
Not sure how current that list is though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2053781]I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.[/QUOTE]There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.
If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.
Are you still with me?
Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.
Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.
Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.
Have I lost you yet?
A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.
Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?
Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.
Again, my idea of airbnb, especially if you rent a whole house / apartment is that you basically take ownership, is like when you rent a whole house but you don't own it, you take ownership of the home and can do as you please (except of course damaging the property) again I was not mad that the host kicked me out of her home, I am more pissed of the review and how it will affect me to get future apartments. I like Airbnb and doing the apartment route as opposed to hotel because it is a lot more private, I cam yes bring pros without raising as much eyebrows as I would at a busy hotel, also being able to smoke pot in peace as many hotels don't allow smoking, far less with mariguana. So yeah, hopefully I will still be able to rent apartments through airbnb if not I guess I will have to make a second account or something like that.
Its full monger mode for me. Just arrived and did all the usual first day crap like stocking up on booze, toiletries and what not. Lleras is not too busy. Gusto has about a half a dozen prepagos. A couple of them pretty aggressive.
I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.
So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.
So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so, because even the street walker scene is dying out by that time. It seems to be more of a day scene, especially that weird sexual marketplace around the parks is finished after nightfall.
I was about an hour and a half in Fase Dos. So they do have the dance shows beginning at 10 pm and at least every half hour. At 9 pm it was still almost nobody there. Chicas hanging out and the ugly ones approaching me and sitting down. I decline politely. I wasn't there to try a quickie, I just wanted to see if I get into the mood. But I didn't. I didn't really like most of the chicas. I guess I am spoiled. But again this artificial mechanical fake attitude is something I am just allergic to. Then when the waiter sent me away from the table at the dance thing because I had only a beer and not some expensive liquor shit, I was done with the place and left. The two dance shows I saw was by the two ugly ones (in my eyes).
So I went out and to Luna Lunera to see how that compares. Luna Lunera has a different seating arrangement and it is a bit more like a "casa" where the chicas introduce themselves fairly quickly without pressuring you (like the ugly ones always do, sitting down and striking up a conversation). It was now well after 10 pm getting on 11 pm and I was the only guy there. Initially the chicas had some fun watching two bigger older ones do the pole dance thing. Later on they kind of went on break, of course because I didn't show much interest.
In my view, the only ones interesting are the quiet ones in the background. May be they are new, younger, and prettier. That was the same in Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. I didn't find the Fase Dos chicas much better looking.
After about an hour there I went back to centro to catch the 11 pm situation. I intended to pick some girl out from Conejitas because I wanted to fill my bed. But then I turned on my heels thinking that the Conejitas thing has that hotel, so its probably not a thing to check them out entirely. Also, I had picked up a card of a chica place closer to my Hotel. You know, those little business cards they hand out to single guys strolling the streets. That one was at Calle 58,45 D104. I wanted to go there and get my chick for the night. Alas, when I located the address, there was nothing. Disappointment with the card.
So I walked back to my Hotel. Which reminds me: the weird Centro place is actually limited. When you go east of Carreira 40 or so, it becomes quite peaceful neighborhoods not unlike you can find them in Berlin Charlottenburg for example. And also, as the taxi drivers raced to and fro Centro and Fase Dos and Luna Luneira, there was all this deadness on the streets. I guess that all still counts as centro. But anyway, that Hotel Kong is actually in a decent neighborhood in waling distance of the Centro places.
Now back alone in my hotel room with a neighbor room producing loud music, I felt the urge to fill my bed. And I ran down my list from Photoprepagos. Co. I had made some contacts with some of the girls with whom I chatted as if they were friends or lovers. So that was nice. Unfortunately two of them were offline and the third was sick so she couldn't come over. She sounded so nice as if we had some chemistry. Anyway, in my determination I ran down the list, very many do not respond, or not respond on time. Until I found a certain Paola, 18 years, with no face shown but nice long hair looking good. I whatsapped her and in 10 minutes she was here. When I opened the door I got this shock feeling, like when it's not what was on the package. And we had zero chemistry. She started re-negotiating the time and money, I held firm, but then I offered her an out. Pay her taxi and some extra for time to call it quits. I didn't feel like I would enjoy her. I felt like she didn't like me. This signal where you just have to act and end it or else be suckered into shit and feel ever worse. At least that's the way with me. The weird thing was, she argued that she didn't want to leave. Sure, then she agreed to the terms and wanted the money up front. I didn't resist, but I was stupid because I didn't like her. Handed her the money. Tried it. She got all mechanical before we were even caressing she already reached to unpack condom. Suddenly kissing wasn't allowed. And she couldn't stand my gaze. So it was the real bummer. But strange thing she didn't want to leave. That I rejected her upset her like crazy. And she started an argument. I thought boy what a ridiculous situation! You pay a girl for arguing with you! (You could call that a GFE or another kind, haha!) Finally I ushered her out. Feeling better alone than with an ugly cold fish in bed.
Now I do have a history of bad experiences. I really learn that I am just not the quick monger. I need that chemistry, that slowness, that kissing and GFE stuff. Shit, I wish I could teach myself the other way, but I always fail in that. However, just my last day in Rio I had one over who I didn't really like physically either, but she was nice, and being nice makes such a huge difference. Now that thing tonight was horrible. While the nice chick messaged me. Even that was funny, I had to turn off the chat with the sympathic chica in order to try an encounter with a cold fish. Weird!
So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.
Some pricing intelligence: amanhecida is not really the same as TLN, because they intend to end it early. This terrible Paola chick had thought that amanhecida would end at 3 am. I go like what? The whole point is that you take it slow in the morning and do it when you wake up naturally at 6 am or so. Such amanhecida goes for 250 k. Some quote 600 k. I got a 24 hours for 600 k from a very good looking girl (that is, if she hasn't crippled her hair as so many girls are doing around the world.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2053834]I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.
So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.[/QUOTE]I think 200 k is the Bogota price and the Medellin price is a bit lower.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053804]
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.[/QUOTE]I'm with you JjB, common sense really. The monger world, however, has it's share of guys who just don't get it, or just don't give a flip.
Debating this topic is like beating your head against the wall.
So I don't.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2053905]So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so[/QUOTE]I hate to write again on this topic, but it is to warn people and (possibly) avoid some bad accident in the future.
The fact that you did not feel very unsafe is the perfect depiction of how insidious is the place. You have been lucky, wandering around without recognizing where is the danger, or better you have been NOT UNlucky. The probability of accident is small, but the potential accident is big, so one could still trigger a gun to his head with one bullet over 12 slots, do it 10 times, then smile and conclude "it's safe". Or it looks like one who swims in a pond of Amazonas, with piranhas at the bottom, then concludes happily that it's not so dangerous as he had read before. They were not hungry, maybe, but I would not advise to repeat.
The problem in those areas of Colombia is not the varied crowd of poor humanity, drug sniffers and beggars, but those who are looking at you from distance, conclude you may have something in your pockets, follow you discreetly and, as soon as the opportunity comes, assault you and leave you with nothing (even life, under some circumstances). Trust me: if 2-3 young boys assault you from both sides, point a knife at your back, start to explore your pockets, NOBODY will come to help you. Not the beggars, not the other people like you who are venturing around, not the garbage men. After 12, the police reduces significantly his presence and they may not be able to look after every corner under the metro. I have seen more than once some drunk men assaulted by a group of teens or a couple of big thugs at Prado at night.
I know what I am talking about as I have been walking around the Centro up to 2 am at times years ago, to look for the single gem hidden under tons of garbage (now I prefer to go with the taxi of one of my friend drivers). It's a challenge: always keep distance with anyone who is walking in group of 2 or more people, change way if they seem to walk toward you, look at left, right, front, and back. Never enter the alleys (you know the Indians attacking the US soldiers in canyons in the western movies? Never turn a corner close to the wall (who is waiting at the other side? It may be a surprise).
The worse danger is when one is not aware of the danger.
Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053804]If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.[/QUOTE]If you LIVE in that 'Home' & rent that 'Home' to someone else, your point is valid. Otherwise, you are renting a 'house' to someone else.
My thoughts are:
If you own a "house" and and live in it, then you rent that "house" to another person, they are a guest in your "home". If you live in a different "house", they are still a guest in your "house". If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your "house". No matter how many "house" you own, each one is your "house" and each person staying in each "house" is a guest in your "house".
"If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time. "
I agree 100%. This applies to any country anywhere in the world, mongering or not!
Well I have found the in your face obnoxious girls to be the ones around the SW corner of the park, keep walking that direction and make a right at the little white church, go down a block and right, those girls are more professional so to speak, both sides of the street. This vid starts out around the side of the church:
[URL]https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739[/URL]
Not always hot ones around but they are 30 k /$10, I have found a few worth seeing more then once there.
You might be a little picky though if you didn't find any hotties in FaseII though. I've only been there on a Fri night, past 11 p they had 60 girls on, all cute, top 10 very cute, like Miss Hawaiian Tropic cute.
You can get girls to leave Conejitas / Barre Exjectiva / Mariciabo etc, you just have to pay the club fee, around 50 k.
These are pics are all from the block behind the Church.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2053905]So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so, because even the street walker scene is dying out by that time. It seems to be more of a day scene, especially that weird sexual marketplace around the parks is finished after nightfall.
I was about an hour and a half in Fase Dos. So they do have the dance shows beginning at 10 pm and at least every half hour. At 9 pm it was still almost nobody there. Chicas hanging out and the ugly ones approaching me and sitting down. I decline politely. I wasn't there to try a quickie, I just wanted to see if I get into the mood. But I didn't. I didn't really like most of the chicas. I guess I am spoiled. But again this artificial mechanical fake attitude is something I am just allergic to. Then when the waiter sent me away from the table at the dance thing because I had only a beer and not some expensive liquor shit, I was done with the place and left. The two dance shows I saw was by the two ugly ones (in my eyes)..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2053999]Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.[/QUOTE]More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.
I live in TX 9 months, and run a top dollar consultancy from home. So can't quite qualify myself as loser.
And, I spend 3 months out a year in Medellin, for business and pleasure.
Currently I find it as a very safe city and so does many of my gringo friends who bought properties here. We just avoid walking in the dark in bad part of city and be vigilant. And its true for any big US cities like Chicago or Baltimore.
We don't do anything illegal and lead a healthy life.
People of Colombia have been very welcoming and nice to us. And I love the weather in MDE.
But we like the bad rep from Pablo's era, or the bad rep from Netflix movie Narcos, LOL. So it stays less crowded.
My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2053999]Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2054079]More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.[/QUOTE]The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;2053999]Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.[/QUOTE]You need to qualify your statement. Add "by American idiots who know nothing. " Your opening statement should read "Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes by American idiots who know nothing. ".
I don't know much about Colombia. I've only been living here less than 3 months. Most of my Colombian friends are under 30, so they still probably have things to learn about Colombia.
During the past 80 days I haven't seen any cocaine and nobody I know has mentioned cocaine or other drugs. I've walked past a few people smoking weed and catch a whiff of it from time to time, but it hasn't been offered in any way. One of my friends has mentioned Pablo Escobar a few times, in pointing out empty houses that supposedly once belonged to Escobar assiciates. It's never been a real conversation topic.
As for prostitutes, I've seen a few, professionally and while out and about. I probably average seeing 500 to 1000 people per day (Metro, Ciclovia, malls). So between 40,000 and 80,000 people and perhaps 20 prostitutes. Several I just assumed they were prostitutes, with no real indication. During the same time I've been in about 30 taxis, 10 buses and 20 Ubers. From my experience Colombia is better known for paid transport drivers than prostitutes.
I have learned a few things about Colombia. It's a very Catholic country. Most buses and taxis have either a rosary, or a statue of a saint. Some have several. There's a Catholic shrine just south of CC Santa Fe. I've seen several drivers cross themselves as they pass it, and it's packed on Saturday evenings, Sundays and holidays. Friends have pointed out a few other places which are significant to the local Catholics as well. Speaking of holidays, of the 20 national holidays observed in Colombia, 11 of them are Catholic holidays.
Another thing I've learned is that many Colombians are sick of stupid gringos obsessing over Pablo Escobar. Last I checked he's still dead. They've moved on, maybe it's time you did too.
I've also learned that the Colombians around me have no use for drugs or prostitutes and they really wish uneducated US trailer trash would begin to appreciate the many other things Colombia has to offer.
Most Colombians know about prostitution, just like most Americans. Most know about drugs and Escobar. However, just like most Americans, they don't appreciate people bringing drugs or prostitutes into their lives.
Perhaps you need to learn a little more about Colombia.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2054132]The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.[/QUOTE]In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education. When Colombia first popped up on my radar, I was unaware of the prostitution here. I knew about the cocaine and Escobar, but nothing about prostitution. Most of what I already knew had nothing to do with drugs, Escobar or prostitutes.
As I started researching I became aware of the seedier side. Although my drug days are long behind me, I'm interested in the occasional paid entertainment. I also learned about other aspects of Colombia. My friends here are all college educated, most have traveled throughout the country and they love their country.
Instead of the best place for a BBBJ I've been learning about the best cazuela, mondongo and arepas. Instead of cocaine and weed, I've been experimenting with different tropical fruits. Most of my conversations deal with modeling, photography, fashion and video production, not El Centro glue sniffers.
If the only thing a person knows about Colombia is Escobar, cocaine and prepagos, they don't know anything about Colombia.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2054174]In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education.[/QUOTE]You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.
I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?
Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.
Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2053905]So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.[/QUOTE]For chemistry and TLN I would give the Centro strip clubs another chance (sounds like you didn't make it to them anyway) With a Prepago it is going to be very hit or miss if you get a good one, could be old or touched up pics or just a girl who is very photogenic but not as hot in person. Plus she can be a wacko or a snow queen.
At the strip clubs you'll be able to sit and drink with a few different girls and find one that floats your boat. I found one in Conejitas who is still my fav in MED, we WhatsApp all the time and I'll see her next time I am there, she is always happy and sweet and GFE with me, plus knockout gorgeous to me.
Try:
Conejitas Show Bar.
CL. 53 #51-41 (NW across street from Plaza Botero).
And.
Barra Ejecutiva.
Calle 53 #48-20.
If you find nothing at 1st wait or come back, new girls showing up all the time.
So it looks like the Beer Store by parque Lleras has fully embraced hookers. There are at least three of them in there after 10 PM. It's not a big venue but I haven't seen them sit around so clearly before. The usual. They don't approach you. Just sit near you.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2053804]There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.
If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.
Are you still with me?
Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.
Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.
Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.
Have I lost you yet?
A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.
Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?
Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.[/QUOTE]I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2054197]You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.
I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?
Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.
Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.[/QUOTE]You're right. Most of the guys who come here are looking for someone to take them by the hand, count out the money for them and help guide their dick into the hole of their choice. They read 3 posts on the forum, then say "I looked, but can't find any information. Please help me. " They get here and complain nobody speaks English, eat at McDonald's and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan that Medellin isn't like PC, or Rio, or wherever else they've been. And everybody who has to put up with them is left with a bad impression.
And slowly Medellin loses its appeal.
I don't know much about Paraguay either, because I have no plans to go there. If that changes, I will know a lot about Paraguay before my passport is stamped. There is no excuse to not know. In the palm of your hand is access to a thousand libraries of information about Colombia, or any other country.
I'm not knocking anyone for not being passionate about a place. I'm knocking people who choose ignorance over knowledge and then brag that ignorance is better.
[QUOTE=Gagoo;2054286]I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.[/QUOTE]That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2054291]That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.[/QUOTE]The auto spell correction on this website keeps changing the spelling. The apartment building which is owned by mongers is across the street from the Spanish named version of Mediterranean Hotel. The building is almost on the corner of Calle 41 A and Carrera 70.