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[QUOTE=Pulse]Hi,
Any feedback on gf hotels in Nha Trang? How will I fare with Perfume Grass, Ha Van or La Suisse?
Looking forward to my first visit.
Pulse[/QUOTE]
You might have a little trouble finding a nice place that's gf. I don't know about those 3 but if you give them a call they should tell you.
[QUOTE=Adhome01]You might have a little trouble finding a nice place that's gf. I don't know about those 3 but if you give them a call they should tell you.[/QUOTE]
Try here.
[url]http://www.hotels-in-vietnam.com/hotels_nhatrang.html[/url]
I would expect all of the ones under $25 to be GF.
I advise you the following m.o.:
- don't book more than one night in advance, (eventually don't book and look with taxi driver),
- the first night pick up a working girl speaking a little english from popular places such as Sailing club. Ask her to indicate you some GF hotel.
- the next day, move there.
I doubt hotels will tell you on the phone that they are GF
[QUOTE=Pulse]Hi,
Any feedback on gf hotels in Nha Trang? How will I fare with Perfume Grass, Ha Van or La Suisse?
Looking forward to my first visit.
Pulse[/QUOTE]
I've never had any problems bringing girls into under $25 hotels. I've never asked if a hotel was GF or not. As long as the girl has her ID, it's all good.
One time the cops came in to inspect a hotel I stayed at. They didn't ask if we were married or not. They just asked what our names were. That was it.
Can't remember if i've told this story already but the last report made me think of it and laugh!
My mate and I turned up at the Anamandara NT some years ago with "friends" and i had no problem but for some reason my mate was made to sign some sort of form the gist of which was that he was signing they were a bona fide couple, like a statutory declaration that they were married! i still chuckle every now and then that there is a piece of paper somewhere in VN that hes signed saying he is married to this girl!
I love Vietnam!
Ozirob
Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.
I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.
Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.
Hue has had a bad rep for mongering and all I can say is the hotel I stayed in was GF and was provided by cyclo driver outside the hotel, simple process, he went picked up a girl brought her back, not up to standards, no problem, off he went and brought another lil hunnie, mmmm better. $15USd ST with tip.
Man I have to give it to you for sticking to your guns. I would have paid and left but then I wouldnt get caught in those places. My rules of engagement.
1. Motobike guys- bring the girls to you not you to them.
2. If you go to their place, make sure its a real room not the KTV room so they can rob you.
3. If its that cheap, its cheap stuff. Know what I mean.
4. Get his number, go to your hotel call him to bring the girls to you.
[QUOTE=Guapo28]Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.
I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.
Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Poppasan]Man I have to give it to you for sticking to your guns. I would have paid and left but then I wouldnt get caught in those places. My rules of engagement.
1. Motobike guys- bring the girls to you not you to them.
2. If you go to their place, make sure its a real room not the KTV room so they can rob you.
3. If its that cheap, its cheap stuff. Know what I mean.
4. Get his number, go to your hotel call him to bring the girls to you.[/QUOTE]I had the same problem in Hue ten years ago, and the girl would barely let me touch her. Three men then tried to get me to cough up about a million dong. Fortunately I didn't have much money with me. But it was touch and go for a while. I though they were going to lay into me. I decided to give Hue a miss after that.
Does anybody know some places in da nang?
Cafe om or a place to go for a full service?
Are there any street girls?
Thanks
Now pm me and I'll hook you up. Can't give details in public, or his phone #.
we just (july/august) travelled from hanoi to saigon along te coast every time with 3 hours travel intervals. i can tell you that most info i scrabbed together from this site (reports from last 2 years) and also from a lp of 2007 is not so acurate. further i would advise to avoid places between hanoi and hue because white people are just not so good treated (sen as unwelcome monkeys) there. and also the food and hotels situation is difficult. i booked the most via the help of a hanoi travel agency [email]operationatdreamvietnamtravel.com[/email] while all mails stayed unanswerd (now i know why. they just don't like to service whites). hanoi is stil acceptable (already 50% of the taxis overcharge) and in hue the travel fun starts.
ofcoarse. everywhere you can find moto girls for 30$ st and then a st "mini hotel" as most hotels forbid take in. but ofcoarse then they need to speek a little englisch and thats again just possible in hanoi and in hue and further down.
but i find just two cities where you can find a line of girls (so with a little looking fun the thai way); .
the one who asked about danag is luckely. just head for the vip room of the royal hotel for nice free life music and a lot ofnice chairhanging girls with beer of 35.000vnd.
second city is saigon. the ny saigon bar stories here are acurate. but just around the corner of this bar (take a left into the hai ba trung) there are at least 2 bars (just 5 meter from the corner) where you can drink a beer for 25.000 vnd and see nauty dressed girls. at the moment i drunk a beer they started to ask for ladydrinks and wether i need a girl. just say you are gay or you have a wife at you're hotel room and you can finish your beer and enjoy the scene by just watching.
so my advice would be stay in danang and saigon as there you can mix moto and bar fun and also the cities are the most accaptable to live in. all other cities pedestrians are treated as stupid animals which should be honked away and blocked the sidewalks by motobikes cars and busses (ear damage hard sound).
at last. the only way they seem to be able to drive. even on a bike. is in the middle of the road (again saigon and danang is some better). so avoid traveling by road while there is no speed and constant sound of honking of the driver. book a ticket of vietnam airlines direct on there website for about 600.000 vnd almost for each single trip. (book at least 3 month ahead for that price).
if you like the beach take nha trang.
if you like an old nice city take hoi an or hue.
both provided outside sitting places and good (and cheap if you want) food and looking plessures from all the nice gods creatures walking along. both local and foreighn. but nothing special to mention about p4p. only a few tourists hanging in empty and overprized expat bars.
all the rest i did was wasted time. sam son, cua lo, dong hoi, hanoi just forget it. i had the worst holiday in my life as the day was too hot and the evening nothing to do (while being awaked by loud locals at 5 am which travel by large families and are used to leave hotel room doors open to shout to eachother in the hall). ok, there is seventeen saloon in hanoi if you want to look to ugly singers with strange english (no country) songs and completely safe (dull) dressed cowgirls and sit in a rare aircon bar.
but this is a sg and not a travel guide i was thinking alsways.
ronald gilpo
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[quote=now finished]does anybody know some places in da nang?
cafe om or a place to go for a full service?
are there any street girls?
thanks[/quote]
Thanks Redgilpo for your report.
But as I live in central vietnam, I'm not (yet) interested in other areas atm. Thx.
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Can you recommend a MP in Hoi An? If so, please include price and location info.
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[QUOTE=Rob Doobing]Yes first one is Cong Dinh, with Monkey and Honey Moon bars, but I was quoting from that bar I mentioned first place and the street is Nguyen Trai, one bar beneath the other.
Interested in your comment about the barfine. Never been offered to me and have always hung on for closing. Is it commonplace?
Common place in those bars I know in Saigon, it is 6 Lady Drinks there. It is long time since I did not regularly patronise Vung Tau. When I was regular in VT there was no such easy way to take a lady away, and this lead to negotiations. More or less difficult depending on situations.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is such a thing as a bar fine in the bars near the intersection of Nguyen Trai and Truong Cong Dinh streets in Vung Tau. You have to wait until the bar closes. I once told girl in one of those bars that she could come and visit me after work and I wrote down the name of my hotel and room number for her. I returned to my hotel and at about 2 am I got a call from the receptionist informing me that I had a visitor. I went downstairs and the receptionist told me that this was a government owned hotel so I would have to pay for an "extra room" to follow regulations. No key was given for this extra room. I have taken girls to other small, cheap hotels in that area and have never been asked to pay for a second room. Most of the girls are happy with 1 million for the night. There is also a massage place near the bars on Truong Cong Dinh where I was offered HJ- 250k, BJ- 400k, and FS- 500k.