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[QUOTE=Jungle Bluebird]LBNot sure why would you care what the girls think. Yes, I do frequent MP's frequently, and it's fun to engage into chit chat, but hey, what matters is that the performance is there.Most of the P4P girls may have street smarts and with that they are hustlers. So anything coming out of their mouth has one purpose - to get more money out of you. This is their job.So whatever a P4P sweetheart says is utterly useless information.JB[/QUOTE]My comments were strictly related to guys who go to a soapy, develop an outside relationship with a girl and she becomes his "girlfriend". He is not paying her, she acts like a real girlfriend and the guy gets to believe this. Then....after some time passes, all of the points I brought up begin to show. I am certainly not talking about a casual afternoon at a soapy. I agree with your points 100%.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]First of all, is a personal attack really necessary? Don't be a douche bag....my "self image" has nothing to do with my comments. I stated that many of the girls working at this profession see themselves as "low-so". From my extensive conversations, I can see that they really wonder why a good looking, well built, younger guy would want to get involved with them on any level above prostitute/customer relationship. This conversation has taken place many times.....they see you are a businessman living in some nice circumstance and they really do not see their worth in comparison. Obviously this is a generalisation....you must be a genius to come to this conclusion. High horse??....don't be a jack ass....it's not a high horse, it's just a comment on personal relationships with working girls. I don't know if I'm "stupid enough"....but I do know that I wasn't referring to the girls' working activity vs. her honesty. I was talking of honesty in general.....why do you think the girls always try to put you on the defensive (under "suspicion") claiming "you buttafry me"...and "you lie me"....it's because they are doing that to everyone all the time (yes, a generalisation).....so they are very well versed at this. This is not only a working girl thing...it is a Thai thing in general. As far as your last paragraph goes...my only comment is "no shit".Listen here Mick....get back on your personal horse and go write some more soapy guides......quit the personal attacks (especially when my only reason for posting was so others might think about getting involved with these characters)...and have a nice day.[/QUOTE]I was attacking your comments on behalf of the girls.O.K. I now have no idea what you meant by girls lying to their families if it didn't relate to things the families would be best not knowing about.I lie to my family when I think it best.e.g. What have I been doing in Thailand? Do I use any Forums on the Internet?Was I visiting some Soapy when I supposed to be shopping?In my view, only dumb people are totally honest. Girls sometimes make a point of requiring men to be totally honest. But who is going to follow this requirement? I don't require girls to be totally honest but I try not to ask them incredibly difficult questions. I prefer to make things easier for them.When I had a soapy GF in the past, there were obviously many questions that I would not ask. I prefer girls who know not to ask questions that would make me lie too.If you pick a low class girl, you get low class talk like in your examples.These types may be excessive liers as well.But not all are the same.I thought your original was unreasonably categorising all Soapy girls as gutter trash or something along those lines and what caused your comments to be rather harsh.The way you used the word "low", you appeared to be putting yourself up on a higher pedastal and looking down on these girls. So I suppose that I was upset by the apparent generalised denigration of all the P4P girls, as though they were all the same.Some soapy girls are nice girls and have a sense of family responsibility so they have to make a living and support their families some how. Plenty of guys have married P4P girls and had successful families. But it was a tough road. And honesty was probably not the best policy.Recently a soapy girl took me to a new-year party and we had a great time. I wouldn't do so unless I had some level of respect for her. She is very honest with me that she doesn't want to exchange phone numbers since she doesn't want any attachment baggage. Probably has been burned by a previous customer hassling her.Its right to warn guys about getting involved with P4P girls. But lets keep the attacks on the girls characters to a fair level and talk about specific girls.Are us mongers any better than the P4P girls?
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Plaza Massage
May I perhaps momentarily divert you guys away from the Hi-So, Low-SO, Mid-So and So-So girls discussions to give me UP-DATED information on Plaza Massage?I've RTFF but have not been able to find any references at all to the "Penthouse suites at Plaza Massage" which I used to regularly patronize in YEARS past - and patronize quite regularly.I used to pre-phone/pre-arrange with a Cantonese speaking Momma, go up to the massage parlor above Cupidity, and our group would be welcomed and taken up to the Penthouse suites (different sizes - 1, 2 3 bedrooms with huge living room with a Jacuzzi in the middle). There, we would swiitch on the TV which would have a closed circuit camera panning the fishbowl downstairs (The CCTV can zoom in/give very good details on any particular lady there), make our selection and within minutes, all these gals would troop in to our penthouse. These gals would place food and drink orders and whilst waiting, would all strip down and join us in the Jacuzzi.When the food/drinks come, all of us would just cover ourselves with towels and proceed to the long dining table where we would have a Bacchanalian/ Romanesque feast - being hand fed by these maidens whilst our hands would grope everywhere! We'd dine and drink and party to our heart's content and anytime anyone of us so feel like it, would slink away into a bedroom and be "serviced" singly, double barreled or even by more if we wich/can do it!!!The question - is this facility/services still around and what are the charges now?? I seem to remember that it was NOT that expensive considering that we usually had approximately double the number of gals vs guys, all that food and drinks and would party to approx 11 pm or midnight (as we all know that when they stayed with us till this hour, we are entitled to bring the gals back to our hotel for no further charges). If I recall correctly it would cost us approximately only double or so vs. what we would have paid if we merely do it singly for the usual 1-1/2 or 2 hour session with one gal in a regular room.Thanks guys - need to find out the updated info/ arrange this all again as a group of us are planning a mongering trip and as it is now, BKK seems to be the targeted destination.SE Asia Joe
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Hey guys, I've just joined the forum and this thread is MASSIVE! I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of March and was wondering if you could list a few good places for a nice hour long soapy in Bangkok? I been to Thailand once before but was just taken to the one place by the tuk tuk driver and it wasn't all that great. Just hoping that this time round will be more pleasing.
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]May I perhaps momentarily divert you guys away from the Hi-So, Low-SO, Mid-So and So-So girls discussions to give me UP-DATED information on Plaza Massage?<cut>The question - is this facility/services still around and what are the charges now?? I seem to remember that it was NOT that expensive considering that we usually had approximately double the number of gals vs guys, all that food and drinks and would party to approx 11 pm or midnight (as we all know that when they stayed with us till this hour, we are entitled to bring the gals back to our hotel for no further charges). If I recall correctly it would cost us approximately only double or so vs. what we would have paid if we merely do it singly for the usual 1-1/2 or 2 hour session with one gal in a regular room.Thanks guys - need to find out the updated info/ arrange this all again as a group of us are planning a mongering trip and as it is now, BKK seems to be the targeted destination.SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]I have not experienced sex parties with other guys involved. Plaza can still provide this service but would be expensive for Farangs.I paid 3200 for just 1 sideline girl. Would have been 2200 for an east Asian gentleman.Colonze2 specializes in sex parties and has no extra charges for Farangs.So it would be a good alternative.Really many Parlours have special suites than can provide for your parties.Then its a case of getting the right girls.
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I hate to bring up an old discussion, but I definitely remember reading about this. It seems Akane33 is the place to get your frenulum broken these days. I had it happened to me a few days ago and I definitely scared the girl with a condom full of blood. She was apologetic enough and I kept reassuring it was OK as it didn't really hurt at all, just a sting during climax. Although in hindsight I think it may have been a bit amateurish of the girl to pull too hard in the first place as well as leave my bunghole sore for a few days from her nails. Hiro is cute, but would not repeat. She was distressed though so I gave her 300THB tip to try cheer her up. Still love Akane though, look forward to visiting again on my next pass through BKK.
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[QUOTE=Erogenous]............It seems Akane33 is the place to get your frenulum broken.........with a condom full of blood............[/QUOTE]Mate,Did you say your frenulum? And you bleed? Not to frighten you but I suggest you go for a blood test in couple of months down the road.
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I paid 3200 for just 1 sideline girl. Would have been 2200 for an east Asian gentleman.[/QUOTE]At such places, as an Asian-American, would I be able to avoid a farang surcharge?
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[QUOTE=Erogenous]I hate to bring up an old discussion, but I definitely remember reading about this. It seems Akane33 is the place to get your frenulum broken these days. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I think a notorious member here will recall the events you are talking about :)[QUOTE=Erogenous]I had it happened to me a few days ago and I definitely scared the girl with a condom full of blood. [/QUOTE]She jacked you off with the Cap on?[quote]Hiro is cute, but would not repeat.[/QUOTE]If a girl broke my Frenulum, I would not repeat with her either. I hope this did not ruin your BKK Experience.
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Upmarket Girls
[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]BBM,Remember how much you paid for airfare and the hotels and ask yourself if it's worth passing up on so much fun for an extra 2K baht or so. I'm with Nic on this one. Forget the other guys in your head, and go for it. Do you really want to end up back home, with a big "what if" all over $60?AT2[/QUOTE]Ok I bit the bullet and paid 3600 baht for a girl at Emmanuelle and 3500 for one at Long Beach. I believe Mick Licker said that the upscale girls need a hook. What these girls had in common were very tight pussies. Other then the tight pussy sex was fairly unremarkable. Both girls were very good-looking. The Emmanuelle girl told the story of being kept by a Singapore business man she had met at Emmanuelle for six months until the wife found out. If you believe her she worked at Emmanuelle for one month, was kept for six months and now had been working for three months since the money stopped. She was a college student who spoke good English. She wants to go work in Singapore or Hong Kong when she gets her degree. The Long Beach girl spoke no English. She was very vocal when fucking like the Japanese girls are. On the way back from Long Beach I stopped in Amsterdam and saw three full-figured babes for 5000 baht. I did not try.I am leaving for Singapore and Geylang today so I will have to experiment further next time I am in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Orange Sunshine]At such places, as an Asian-American, would I be able to avoid a farang surcharge?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are not considered a farang, if you are Asian. At least from the standpoint of the Soapy establishments. I have never had to pay a farang surcharge.AT2
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Yeah, I think a notorious member here will recall the events you are talking about :)...[/QUOTE]Ooooooooohhhhhhhh nooooooooooooo!!!!!I cannot remember that any more :):):).Giotto
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[QUOTE=Erogenous]I hate to bring up an old discussion, but I definitely remember reading about this. It seems Akane33 is the place to get your frenulum broken these days. I had it happened to me a few days ago and I definitely scared the girl with a condom full of blood. She was apologetic enough and I kept reassuring it was OK as it didn't really hurt at all, just a sting during climax. Although in hindsight I think it may have been a bit amateurish of the girl to pull too hard in the first place as well as leave my bunghole sore for a few days from her nails. Hiro is cute, but would not repeat. She was distressed though so I gave her 300THB tip to try cheer her up. Still love Akane though, look forward to visiting again on my next pass through BKK.[/QUOTE]Erogenous,I feel with you :(. What, it did not hurt? Then yours might be different :) ... ooouuuucccchhh!!!!Giotto
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[QUOTE=Giotto]Ooooooooohhhhhhhh nooooooooooooo!!!!!I cannot remember that any more :):):).Giotto[/QUOTE]I have heard that a broken frenulum causes memory loss. Must be true!AT2
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[QUOTE=Mr Lift]Hey guys, I've just joined the forum and this thread is MASSIVE! I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of March and was wondering if you could list a few good places for a nice hour long soapy in Bangkok? I been to Thailand once before but was just taken to the one place by the tuk tuk driver and it wasn't all that great. Just hoping that this time round will be more pleasing.[/QUOTE]Mr Lift,Go back about 12 to 13 pages from this post. Mick posted about 3 pages of everything you wanted to know about Soapy Massage Parlors, with links to reviews. If you have any more questions after reading those pages, we can add to it, but I don't think he missed anything important.AT2