Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2464040]If you use an objective standard, such as value for money.

None of this "eye of the beholder" or everyone "rolls differently" bullshit flies.

Only 1 place is better, I can't say which, I haven't arrived yet, but I can tell you now.

One is a joke and one is the place to be, that's not just a matter of opinion.

All variables considered, one is PRIME the other is less than.

What makes it so, if you took 1000 random mongers and let them vote, that would give you an idea.

If there are 2 or 3 weak mongers than pick 1 over the other, their opinion is shit.[/QUOTE]You keep using that phrase, "weak monger. " What's that? Are there "strong mongers" too? Where's the posted criteria for weak and strong mongering?

To me, weakness is the need to criticize the way other people choose to do their own thing. The only people whose mongering method I criticize are the people who feel the constant need to degrade the women. If their masculinity is so threatened by any woman, well they probably aren't wired to be on the driving end. Maybe "pegging" is a better hobby.

Here's my take:

It's my dick. It's attached to my body. All those blood vessels and nerve endings are only attached to my vascular and nervous systems. When I pop an erection, none of your blood supply is affected. When I bust a nut, no endorphins are released in your brain. What I do with my dick is of absolutely no concern of yours, unless you are craving my dick.

When I pay for sex, I use my money. It comes from my pocket. It was earned by me, performing my job. Never has it been money I borrowed from someone else. Whether or not I spent $2 buying a girl a Aguilar Light before taking her home, or whether I handed her 500 k before sending her home, it was all my money. Your bank balance will not be affected. You won't suddenly find yourself out of money. What I do with my money is absolutely no concern of yours unless you're upset that I'm not paying you to suck my dick and bust a nut on your face. If that's the case, sorry, not my thing.

If I manage to give a girl 6 orgasms over a few hours, does that make me weak? When she hits me up 2 weeks later and wants to come see me for half of what I paid the first time (it has happened), am I weak? When she passes my number to 6 of her friends (it has happened), am I weak? When she hits me up out of the blue just to tell me how much she misses me, how much she thinks about me and how eager she is to see me when I return (ditto), am I weak? When she wants to come over and just hang out because she's bored and lonely and doesn't want any money (I'm sensing a trend), am I weak?

If I spend 50 k more than you on a girl who is more attractive to me, am I weak? If I drop an extra 100 k on a girl who spends 6 hours with me instead of the 38 minutes you got, am I weak? If I'm spending the same amount as you for the same girl, but your date consisted of a quick fuck and cleanup and mine consisted of a nice dinner, a movie in one of Medellin's excellent theaters, complete with a blowjob in the back row, sex, cleanup, more sex, cleanup, a nap and more sex, am I being weak?

While there are plenty of women I wouldn't repeat with, I doubt there are many who won't repeat with me. Maybe I pay them more than you think they're worth, but it's my dick, my money. Maybe I put more effort into making sure they are satisfied, still my dick, my money. Maybe after spending time with me they aren't willing to come down to your price. Maybe after spending time with me they're unwilling to put in any effort for you.

Maybe you need to up your game and stop crying that the "weak mongers" are going to ruin it for you.

I agree with everything you said except, slightly, that there is no way you will session in Centro. I learned years ago there is a lot of truth in the old saying of "never say never". Back to agreeing with you, I feel very strongly no amount is too much as long as the person paying it is OK with it after making an informed decision. The Medellin market is big enough to remain intact in spite of what happens on the low and high extremes of the payment scale.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2464123]I agree, there is no way I will session in el centro, it's just not my scene. There is no way anyone can ever convince me that Poblado is worse than centro, or paying 1 million pesos for a night with two of my favorite girls is too much. I also will forever treat all my girls with respect and be as generous as I can, for me, it's not a weakness. Anyways, this is just me, others are necessarily different from me, no point to argue over other people's life style.[/QUOTE]

Amen, one of the reasons I really wish for a cure and / or effective virus treatment sooner rather than later is so guys will stop the aggro sniping that has gotten worse with every passing month. I suspect it is a symptom of extreme blue balls. We've all been there and I personally don't miss it.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2463417]While I agree with most of what you say. Please everyone STOP posting your pathetic LAYPERSON opinions of Viral Illness. There are 1000 other forums for this non-sense! Likewise USA Politics. God, People, that's enough! If you are not here with us in Colombia sharing insights to lifestyle, Or asking focused questions on the topic. Please GO AWAY.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464236]You're missing out if you haven't eaten at Salpijugos in Envigado, not to mention Classic Diner or El Museo Moto Blanco. El Castillo Museo in Poblado is a great way to spend a few hours. Or go race the Xtreme carts on the bottom level of the Santa Fe mall parking garage. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I damn sure won't miss out again.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464241]Is it wrong to suggest guys staying at the Mansion are allowed to believe it's paradise? Or the guys dropping $500 a night in Lleras? Or the guy who takes a girl to San Andres, or Cancun, or Paris? While you and I might think it's crazy to spend that kind of money, if they go home with happy memories, that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]It is definitely about the memories and having a good time. For a long tine I have been saying the same thing SJobs said in the other thread: Most of the price difference hinges on ambiance.

At this point I have been damn near everywhere and done damn near everything, so I am not excited (or willing to pay more) over ambiance. I have fucked so many chicks from crack hoes to porn stars that at this point it is just pussy to me and I don't have a reason to pay but so much for it. Besides the tons of free chick I fuck anyway.

I am guilty of usually reporting what price you can get a bare bones chick for. This means that you are only getting the chick. You will have to create your own ambiance how you see fit. You may catch this same chick out on a night full of ambiance at 3 or 4 times the price. But that is not my market.

As I said, for years I have been preaching that here in Thailand you can get the same girl for way less when they are not in some type of club with a middleman involved. But it seems some guys believe the girls in the clubs are hidden away somewhere during non-club hours and only surface when the clubs are in session. No. Those broads go out and eat and everything else that regular people do. As a matter of fact they are only country bumpkin farmers that someone has slapped some high heels, bikini, and makeup on. Don't know why they are seen as a spectacular feat.

(I was dating a chick in the Dominican Republic that showed me all kinds of pictures of her daughters. They were drop dead! Well when I was over to the house and met them, they were just some plain old seemingly shy chicks. I asked my girl about it. She said the pictures were the fixed up going out them. At home was the everyday them. For some reason guys don't want to admit there is no difference in the chicks you see walking around in the daytime and the ones at the clubs in the night. What makes the difference is the ambiance.).

Well with this lockdown in Thailand I was fortunate to meet a couple other board members. One is known for reporting about his exorbitant spending every night. With the lockdown in effect and the clubs closed, he was forced to adopt other methods such as the ones I use. These are meeting chicks on a website and cold meeting chicks on the street while out and about.

He found what I was saying to be true and reported it. He would run into chicks that he has paid at the club before, but now outside they only wanted 1/5 of what it was before. This guy has me laughing so much because he complains when the chicks show up as their normal selves. He wants to see them dolled up as he does in the club. I am the opposite because I want them to come over looking like their normal selves, no make up and shorts and flip-flops. He realizes that it is the ambiance and party atmosphere that he enjoys and is paying for, and not just the bare bones pussy as I like to pay for it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464250]You keep using that phrase, "weak monger. " What's that? Are there "strong mongers" too? Where's the posted criteria for weak and strong mongering?
Maybe you need to up your game and stop crying that the "weak mongers" are going to ruin it for you.[/QUOTE]A weak monger is one that tries to impress 3rd world hookers, and gives them"respect" like they are their hs sweetheart, hookers are typically the dregs of their societies, proceed accordingly!

I will challenge you, I can get a much better looking hooker with better service than you can with less money than you in any city in the world, so up your game and stop trying to destroy the market.

Like the losers did in Cocal, now you want to destroy MDE.

Here is a repost from 05.09. 20.

My apologies if I offended certain mongers.

I believe there are exceptions to every rule.

If you overpay hookers and you are very old or in a wheelchair or missing a leg or 2.

I don't think you need to overpay but if you do, you qualify for an exemption from my contempt.

I don't think I'm old yet? LOL but most young (not all) hookers I have seen across the planet.

Actually say they love old guys, I'm guessing they don't think they are going to get slapped around if they get out of line?

Or they won't want to pound their pussy silly until 5 am? But if you are not old or disabled, I believe anyone that overpays is contemptible.

You are guilty of willfully trying to damage mongering for the greater good, the higher prices get, the less mongers there will be (I'm pretty sure they know this, and this is partly why they do it).

If you are not old or informed but are physically abhorrent and feel the need to overpay please don't write here and encourage others to do the same.

Too much is too much.

Only ugly guys like to overpay.

Real men never overpay.

Post-script I love the old guys, I plan to join that club soon enough LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2464293]It is definitely about the memories and having a good time. For a long tine I have been saying the same thing SJobs said in the other thread: Most of the price difference hinges on ambiance.

At this point I have been damn near everywhere and done damn near everything, so I am not excited (or willing to pay more) over ambiance. I have fucked so many chicks from crack hoes to porn stars that at this point it is just pussy to me and I don't have a reason to pay but so much for it. Besides the tons of free chick I fuck anyway.

I am guilty of usually reporting what price you can get a bare bones chick for. This means that you are only getting the chick. You will have to create your own ambiance how you see fit. You may catch this same chick out on a night full of ambiance at 3 or 4 times the price. But that is not my market...[/QUOTE]This might be one of your best posts.

For me, it's the opposite. Although my numbers are not anywhere close to your numbers, I've fucked all kinds of girls in all kinds of situations. For me, it's all about the ambiance, because if it's just bare bones pussy, I've got 2 hands that don't expect to be paid.

I want something that I'll look back on and smile. I want to remember her name, or at least the tattoo I really liked. I want to be able to recall that high pitched squeak she let out when she orgasmed. I want to remember the claw marks on my back or the red hand prints on her ass.

I want to feel like something more than just ordering from McDonald's and using a coupon was accomplished. Here Is yesterday's example:

As I've reported, I've stumbled onto a nest of non-pros. Although I'm not sure that fits all of them. They almost all have jobs, are almost all University students, speak some English and are from good families. And almost all of them are either friends or family.

One of them is my Holy Grail. She's about as pure and innocent as you'll find in Medellin. She's never had an orgasm during sex and only has had sex a few times, but she's got some great fantasies and somehow I got her hooked on letting me help her with them.

One of the others, best friend of her sister hit me up. She's a Psychology student and a bit on the kinky side. I sent her a sample of the porn I've been writing. She immediately asked for more. So I made a deal. You send me videos, I'll send you stories.

At first the videos were sexy dancing, nothing more. She got to working in a few playful spanks with a belt. Nothing serious. Then I told her she needed to step it up, show me more. She said she couldn't do that and said maybe she would wear a see-thru shirt with no bra. Wrote her another chapter and got the nipples out, but the next round everything was covered. Said she couldn't bring herself to do anymore.

I wrote her an essay that tied in with the story I've been writing for her (and 5 other girls). The goal was to convince her to let loose of her inhibitions. She thought about it for a day and said she would try.

Yesterday she sent 20 minutes worth of video which ended with a vibrator in her pussy and an orgasm.

I could have bought slicker video from a better looking girl. I've done it. The amount of work and time I spent writing was worth more than the cost of videos. But I feel like I accomplished something. Now she's thinking about sneaking away from her boyfriend to come see me when I'm in town.

Each of us has our own motivations and price points. We all have different preferences. I see some pics on here that the guy raves about. And I think "you can get a better plastic toy with a Happy Meal. " I see other pics and can't believe my eyes.

I'm with you on the make-up. A little is okay, but if she needs a sandblaster to remove it, no thanks.

I've purchased blood pressure meds OTC. Have you tried to buy Hydroxychloroquine OTC?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464241]I understand that completely. I don't try to convince anyone they need to change their way. More of the opposite. I've taken a few different guys to cruise El Centro, or to visit the strip clubs. I've also pointed a few guys towards Facebook and other sources.

I can view it from his perspective and I accept that El Centro IS paradise to him. I think that is fabulous. However, is it unrealistic to expect everyone else get the same consideration? Is it wrong to suggest guys staying at the Mansion are allowed to believe it's paradise? Or the guys dropping $500 a night in Lleras? Or the guy who takes a girl to San Andres, or Cancun, or Paris? While you and I might think it's crazy to spend that kind of money, if they go home with happy memories, that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]It is not but it is unwise to keep going in the virtual world when you already said you understand. I love El Centro for various reasons but I also go to other places. I went to La Isla often because of the convenience and ambiance. I tried to drag PN to go with me once and it would be my treat but he would not go.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464306]One of them is my Holy Grail. She's about as pure and innocent as you'll find in Medellin. She's never had an orgasm during sex and only has had sex a few times, but she's got some great fantasies and somehow I got her hooked on letting me help her with them.[/QUOTE]I always think most of them don't have too much sex. They have sex young, but they don't have sex if they don't have boy friends. Some ask me to help with homework, LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2464259]I agree with everything you said except, slightly, that there is no way you will session in Centro. I learned years ago there is a lot of truth in the old saying of "never say never". Back to agreeing with you, I feel very strongly no amount is too much as long as the person paying it is OK with it after making an informed decision. The Medellin market is big enough to remain intact in spite of what happens on the low and high extremes of the payment scale.[/QUOTE]You are right, if I see a pair of 18-year-old Rihanna and Shakira selling threesomes in centro, I will session with them there in a heart beat.

I can only assume you are a Trump disciple

[QUOTE=Lou32;2464318]I've purchased blood pressure meds OTC. Have you tried to buy Hydroxychloroquine OTC?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2464302]A weak monger is one that tries to impress 3rd world hookers, and gives them"respect" like they are their hs sweetheart, hookers are typically the dregs of their societies, proceed accordingly!

I will challenge you, I can get a much better looking hooker with better service than you can with less money than you in any city in the world, so up your game and stop trying to destroy the market.

Like the losers did in Cocal, now you want to destroy MDE.

Here is a repost from 05.09. 20.

My apologies if I offended certain mongers.

I believe there are exceptions to every rule.

If you overpay hookers and you are very old or in a wheelchair or missing a leg or 2..[/QUOTE]Sorry, never been to Cocal. Keep trying. I already told you where to find me. You're welcome to come and follow up on your threats.

I understand. It's your opinion. It's the same opinion held by millions of men around the world. Not that the label "men" is appropriate. You know the type. They don't know how to handle a woman except to "slap her around. " They get upset if some guy actually talks to "their" woman, so they go and "slap her around" some more. They bluster and make threats, but in the end, all they can do is go find a woman and "slap her around."

My ex's sister, a LCSW dealing with domestic violence, said that most men like that turn out to have been sexually abused by a male authority figure at a young age. So, it's kind of sad. Not forgiveable, but sad.

I've never had a problem with women "getting out of line", especially not one I'm paying. Generally speaking, I don't even overpay. I average right at the going rate, for the pool I pick from. A few times I've tossed in a bonus. Why not? A girl comes over for 1 hour and stays for 6 hours, does everything I expect and more. Why not? I'm getting 3 sessions worth for the price of 1. I end up paying less, getting more and the next time she's working harder and staying longer.

The problem with you emotionally stunted boys that need to "slap around" women, none of you understand basic math, or have any reading comprehension skills.

Let's deal with the reading problem first. I've never said that I overpay. I simply have said, many times, whatever anyone else pays is their business. No mongering destination exists solely for your amusement. If the price gets too high for you, move on. If the girls get tired of being "slapped around" by you, move on.

Now let's try some math.

There are roughly 4 million people in the Medellin metro area. Probably more when you add in the Venezuelans and the girls coming from other cities. Figure maybe 300,000 Colombian men who at least occasionally go out and pay for pussy. How many mongers? The big monger parties I've been to pull in about 100 gringos if they're lucky. Maybe at most 2,000 foreign mongers at any one time. You can discount most of the ex-pats. The ones I know tend to stick with the going rate or below and can usually find plenty of free pussy.

Let's go nuts and say half over pay. That's 1,000 people overcoming the 300,000 natives who are paying less than the mongers paying gringo rates and overcoming the 1,000 mongers paying the gringo rates.

To destroy the market, the average overpaying gringo needs to pay 300 times what the average Colombian pays. Using casa rates of 50 k per 30 minutes, that comes to 15 million COP for a 30 minute session. 45 million for a typical Facebook girl.

Now if 50 gringos at the same time, started paying 5 million for girls in Parque Lleras, you'd quickly see a flood of girls hanging out in front of the Beer Factory. But after a few nights of the cops dispersing them and going home with nothing, they'll all return to their regular routine.

Unless you're in a environment limited to gringos, a small percentage overpaying has no effect. 5 guys staying at the Mansion could cause a few problems for the other guys for a few days, if they're paying 500 k each time. But 2 weeks later, after the guys switch to casas and strip clubs, the price settles back.

I'm not particularly ugly, although at least one monger has called me that. I usually get "tan guapo" from the women, including the ones that I'm not paying. I'm not physically deformed, although that's also been suggested (by the same monger), not in a wheelchair, missing limbs, have a disfiguring disease, a nasty skin condition or dirty fingernails. I'm not going bald in an unfortunate manner. Not going bald at all yet. Not even the beginning of a thin spot. Really, it's a fucking glorious head of hair, worthy of a shampoo commercial.

You may believe it's contemptible for some other guy to pay more than you think they should. I think it's contemptible to slap a woman around.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2464293](I was dating a chick in the Dominican Republic that showed me all kinds of pictures of her daughters. They were drop dead! Well when I was over to the house and met them, they were just some plain old seemingly shy chicks. I asked my girl about it. She said the pictures were the fixed up going out them..[/QUOTE]A chick I know usually doesn't wear makeup. Yesterday I saw her profile picture changed to one with light makeup. I went WOW. It's amazing how much a little makeup can do sometimes.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2464318]I've purchased blood pressure meds OTC. Have you tried to buy Hydroxychloroquine OTC?[/QUOTE]You do know that Hydroxychloroquine is an incredibly dangerous drug -- with side effects that can cause stroke and blindness-- right? I don't know whether you could find a pharmacy in Colombia that might sell it to you without a prescription. But there is no way you should be taking it except under a doctor's supervision.

Please stick to Viagra, not without risk of course -- they say you should call your doctor if you have an erection lasting longer than four hours, but I recommend calling an 18 year old Paisa instead.