Dubai Reports

Piper not bad haggling skills there, both for 500 dhs, I remember them from cyclone a couple of years back, they'the always be quting 1000, but would go down to 500 (but for 2 now thats good fate).

Also to people asking stupid questions ' where do I go for this', ' where can I go for that'. Dubai is like a one big brothel, I would say 70. 80 % of all drinking establishments have hookers there. Same when you go shopping.

When you are out and you see a pretty girl looking at you with a slight smile, you might think nahhhh no chance not an arab girl. Yes! She's not an arab girl she's an eastern block girl trying to look arabic, telling you I'll suck your cock, and let you fuck me up the arce for a 1000dhs.

I understand people asking these questions if they're new, we were all new to the game once.

Like I said any hotel no matter 3star to the 7 star, hookers are plentiful. Prices will differ, but theyre all over the place. Places are closing all over becuase the government don't want dubai to be like Thailand. But if their was no hookers here it would seriously dent the economy.

I was on holiday and stayed at the grand hyatt (note they charge 100 dhs to take your bride for the night to the room 2006). I had just left the outdoor swimming pool, when this gorgous bird kept looking at me. I thought she must be waiting for her husband or something so never thought to much of it. She looked arabic, but turned out to be from chechneya. Anyway she said; Hi' I said alright, here I was with my shorts and sandals on with a hard on appearing, 'thinking only in dubai' I reckon she was wating for a frind or something. Any way she asks will I buy her a drink, I said no, but come to my room for a drink. She said ok. How simple was that never asked about prices or sex or owt.

Once in the room, I said I wanted to fuck her and she said no probs. Give me 1000 ds. I said no thanks and gave her a kiss on the cheek. She said ok 500, I was tired and only went to the pool to nurse the hangover. Anyway I said I'll give you 200 for an hour and you vcan leave. She laughs and says I can fuck her for free (she wasnt serious she knew I'the give her something). We get on the bed kiss gfe blah blah, I ended up giving her 300, she was there for a good 2-3 hours and fucked her 3 times. Then I thought I'm a little hungry and asked her if she fancys some food. 'yes, where you take me prince' was her reply. Took her for a meal, and a few drinks at the boston bar. Looked at the clock, it was about 7. 30pm, I thought to myself I went for bit of a chill by the pool, and ended up with a hooker I wanted to marry (not really but you get the point).

Later went with friends to premiere club, there she was, she left with a guy for 1200 dhs, I called her and she says the guy she was with never even fucked her just hugged her in bed. So their you have it some of these girls are out for a good time, and I can't stress enough, if you treat these girls like human beings and be a gentle man, theyre will treat you like royalty.

Info to newbies, just get out there and play, you will find more than you ever thoguht you, would. Be good and y'all be safe. Afternoon time action whilst I was waiting for the gold souk to open st georges hotel, but the girls looked a little ugly, so I never tried it on.

Hope this is of help. Also royal mirage girl friendly.

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Gentlemen,

Wicked Roger arrived at my place at 6:30pm with two Filipina sisters. One cute, one super-cute. (I told him earlier on the phone he could bring them along, but I wasn't going to make a commitment to take one).

When they arrived, I was lusting after the super-pretty one, but within 20 minutes WR had taken her to the guest room for some romping, leaving me with the one I wasn't interested in (plus she has her period). I can hear the guest-room bed squeaking as we speak. I hate WR.

Meanwhile, I'm "checking my work emails" while the other girl watches TV and sips a drink. I'll stick to my plan of going out tonight to find a girl, maybe Chelsea Hotel which has recently been recommended by Jenas as a new Filipina pick-up place.
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EDIT IN: WR wants to join me in the hunt tonight. Greedy bastard!

[QUOTE=Piper1]

When they arrived, I was lusting after the super-pretty one, but within 20 minutes WR had taken her to the guest room for some romping, leaving me with the one I wasn't interested in (plus she has her period). I can hear the guest-room bed squeaking as we speak. I hate WR.[/QUOTE]


Happened to me last night when my friend picked a cute Moldovan from Sheraton. She insisted that since we are going to my flat she has to take her friend too. I had no choice but to surrender, otherwise my friend wouldn't have been able to take his lady (I admit a stunner) out.
Least to say that her "friend" is ugly, had to stay with her in TV room watching TV and sipping on a Martini. I told her I had diarrhea, and couldn't shag her. Meanwhile my friend was enjoying his time.
Me too was able to"hear the guest-room bed squeaking as we speak"
Heading tonight to Regal.....

[QUOTE=Zing Uk]Hi,

I was there unfashionalby early as some of our other guest leaving around 1130pm.

Sorry Mr Z. it was not me. By 11:30 I was already doing the dirty.

These skinheads were actually from the UK. With their loud Hawaiian shirts and louder industrial-city accents you could not miss them.

Thank you Mr. Bravo for the late afternoon-early evening advice. Will follow it up, especially when working the next day.

To the senior members: Is 400 too steep at an AMP? Everything (like discovery channel) on the menu included. If so, what are the going rates?

Happy mongering

[QUOTE=Member #1071]Least to say that her "friend" is ugly, had to stay with her in TV room watching TV and sipping on a Martini. [/QUOTE]

What's this ? Mongers getting picky? Where will it all end ? (tongue firmly in cheek)

I suppose if you're paying for it you can afford to be choosy. It's a pain when you end up with the dog, and we're talking kennel club, not Crufts. Mind you, some of the 'not-so-pretty' ones are as horny as hell and will give you a good time. They might not get as much as the pretty ones and so go for it great guns. Just a thought . . .

I'm gearing up for my lightning visit to DXB on 4 & 5 Sept. I get out just before things get manic for GITEX. Look forward to having a drink with anyone available.

Cheers

Expatcat

[b]Chelsea Hotel.[/b]

After WR had his Filipina fill twice yesterday, we headed to Chelsea Hotel about 9:00pm to check out the new Filipina bar. Too early, and it was almost empty, so we went to the sports bar for a drink and some food. Music was very loud, as there was a party of some sort, with a group of Brits. As we we were leaving, I watched a group of Indians playing pool. A cute Indian girl in the group kept smiling at me. Yum! Then she came over to me with a big smile. Double yum! Then she said "Hello Doc, how are you? Nice to see you here". Damn, she was one of my students, and I didn't recognise her.

[b]Seaview, and the drunk old singing guy in the white shirt.[/b]

After some polite talk with the students, WR and I headed to Seaview around 10:00pm. Band is growing on me slowly. Everyone's favorite singer "The drunk old British guy in the white shirt" kept everyone entertained as he stole the stage much of the night. He was in the men's room same time as me, so I put on a weird British accent and lied to him: "You're a good singer man!" He smiled proudly and thanked me. There were a few Filipinas in Seaview, but overall it was quiet. Not one African or CIS girl.

[b]Chelsea Hotel - Part 2.[/b]

About 11:15pm we went back to check out Tira Maria Club at Chelsea. By then it was like a small Ratsky. The all-girl band wasn't too bad, and the place started to slowly fill with people, including some Filly cuties. Lo and behold, who should appear: "The drunk old British guy in the white shirt". As soon as he arrived, he had hold of the karaoke microphone and was walking around the club singing Frank Sinatra songs. When he walked near WR and I, I put on the same weird British accent and lied to him again "You're a good singer man!" Again he smiled proudly then suddenly had a confused look of deja-vu on his face as he kept walking and singing and looking back at me, wondering where he's seen me before.

I had my eye on a tall slim Filipina with a beautiful face, but she was sitting with a group of friends, including guys. I made a point of giving her a big "I want you" smile as she walked past us to go to the rest room. She returned a cheeky smile. We flirted nonverbally across the room for a while, and when she next walked past me, I slipped a piece of paper with my name and number into her hand, she looked at it, smiled again, and gave me the hand-signal that she would call me.

WR has never been to Rattler, so I told him we must go there. As we drove to Rattler, I recieved an SMS from the tall beautiful Filipina introducing herself, and sent her an SMS back telling her she's cute I'm in love. :) She replied "Thanks!" I'll follow up with her later.

[b]Jill Hennessy at Rattler.[/b]

Rattler wasn't too busy, usual mix of nationalities. I fell in love again, this time with a tall slim brunette with a beautiful face. She looks like a young Jill Hennessy from the TV series "Crossing Jordan" (see pic below). Many guys were trying to hit on her. When she was left alone for a minute, I went to speak to her. She's from Siberia, very friendly attitude but wouldn't budge from her opening offer of 1,000. I counter-offered 600 + 100 extra if everything was good. She assured me with a laugh that everything would be good - for 1,000. I'd already splurged on a stunning Azeri this week, so wanted to keep expenses reasonable, and after a while I gave up on her. I should have taken her number for my next splurge on a stunner. I think she'd be worth it.

Time was moving on, and WR had to get up early in the morning, so I selected a fail-safe camera-happy kinky girl I've taken before. WR did a good job with the 201 photos. I'll post a few soon.

I woke up with my cute Chinese girl this morning, but I was lusting for Miss Siberia. No problems - I closed my eyes, started bonking away, used my imagination, and voila! - Miss Siberia was mine. No extra charge. :D

Good to catch up with you last night WR. Been a long time. And thanks for Miss Filipina Super-Cutie's phone number. We got on well (damn, she even told me I'm hansum). I'll call her soon.

Fellow Mongers

Returned from Piper’s this morning, after an eventful Friday that started with me meeting a Friendster contact – Filipina, hotel worker, 38kgs, very cute – then onto Lovely (that Piper did a live report on) and it ended up with us going to a few bars and me taking picture of Piper naked with his favourite PRC.

In between I saw and met the ‘man with the white shirt’ who sings and dance wildly at Seaview and then did Karaoke at the Chelsea Hotel (Tiya Maria) – all because Piper told him he was a great singer which he duly proved he was not (or maybe it was the booze singing!).

All in all an enjoyable day even accounting for seeing Piper naked

He will post his FR later but he had a good night, I gave him Lovely’s number and she is keen to see him and he got another from a Filipina at the Chelsea Hotel where we spent some time – so all in all he had a good time

Where to start?

Morning/early afternoon

Met my Friendster lady friend, spinner, Filipina. 38 kgs (well below the 50/50 for me! Very nice had a drive around town, hotels etc and we ended up in her friend’s place (she was out) and we shagged like dogs for a while. As she is not P4P no more on this except I was a happy camper.

While being with her Shine called, could I see her sister (another hotel worker), promised me she was cute, younger than Shine (sister was 22/23), and prettier – and she was plus a great girl in the sack

Late afternoon

Collected Shine and lovely from the agreed spot and off we went to chez Piper – thankfully the cars sat nav found his place.

Piper was the genial host ad was lusting after Lovely but I had inside knowledge as Shine was on her period and Lovely was going to be mine !! And Piper could only expect sloppy seconds :D

Lovely is just that, nice face, figure, rack in proportion and devours my todger as though she had been on hunger strike for a long time. Great BBBJ, great everything, very enthusiastic (or maybe it was just her partner made her so horny ;)) and we finished with CIM. All types of positions and no complaints about anything. We chatted about past relationships, family and Shine and she was intrigued about group sex so I promised her she could watch next time Shine and I indulge…well I am a gentleman!

After that we went and sat with Piper again who was feeling the effects of hearing the bed creak a lot and loudly – well at least it did not break like at Groin Strain’s place. He did not a BBBJ from Shine and she does very god ones as he was saving himself for later. Me I had 2 very nice shags and wanted more as long as I found what I was looking for.

Ladies got a taxi and we departed into the Dubai night

Evening and early morning

We decided to try Tiya Maria (Chelsea Hotel) as Jenas had reported of Filipinas which is what WR likes a lot. It was early we went to the Sports Bar for dinner. Food (well mine) was great; Piper’s nachos needed more sauce. Very loud so afterwards we went back to Tiya Maria again quiet but the all girl band was still playing. We moved on to Seaview (not Sea Shell Piper!)
Band very good, quietish, noticed an influx of Filipinos sitting and having fun (this is new to me) but not that many WGs. Nice Filipina did come in with great white heels on but she was attached, we reckon a mamasan or two sat in front of us as those 3-4 Filipinas spoke with them (and the boyfriend/husband).

Not many good pickings last night. Two of the band very tasty (and I don’t mean the bass player who does nothing for me at all..sorry guys who think otherwise about her). So we moved on, though Piper was getting the eye from a Filipina but her proportions not good for him that night (basically Piper wanted larger breasts ;)) – but Piper after all that discussion look who you chose

An aside: the ‘singer’ as I call him or I think 11B and Sporadic say’ man in white shirt’ was there strutting his stuff, singing away, air guitar the lot. My first time of seeing him and now I can appreciate the comments. Very drunk and got even worse at Tiya Maria – with Piper’s encouragement!

Back again Tiya Maria and not much difference but a few more faces and by midnight it was a tad busier. Seems there maybe was the odd WG there, maybe with a Papasan even (older Filipino we were not sure). Singer tried to hit on 2 that were OK but his rather drunk demeanour made them shy unsurprisingly

So we watched the band, maybe 1-2 in the band whop could be considered shaggable. And we saw this cute Filipina who came in with other guys (all Filipino) and seemed to know the girls we though/suspected of being WG. She was nice, tall(ish) for a Filipina and when she walked past we looked at her, winked, smiled and eventually she was looking at us.

Piper being the shy and retiring type of guy got me to read off his mobile number, he scribbled onto a piece of paper I found (well I was am the sensible one of the partnership that night). As she walked past for the umpteenth time, she even double backed to the toilets when she Piper speaking with another punter, Piper managed to give her the piece of paper and later that night while in Rattler she SMS him. So he scored again if he wants too.

Tiya Maria was OK but we went to Rattler. WR has never been there and for Piper its his local and he fancied a lady. Me? Tow minds, had tow nice long sessions and was not fussed, if right WG there then OK if not, I was not going to fret.

Rattler

Still AED 50 to enter, no drinks lots of PRC, some Africans who were touching pinching etc all the way to the gents! And piper saw a delightful brown haired CIS (Siberian) and lusted after her. She was very nice, 9 for face and moving nicely to the music - you could almost imagine her on top of you do same to your todger.....

Alas, she wanted AED 1000 and would not budge despite Piper’s charm offensive (or that offensive charm…)So we looked around and saw more PRC most of whom lacked decent English skills 9one of the reasons I tend not to play with PRC). Eventually saw a nice looking PRC and she agreed price and menu (which included photos – I was the official photographer). But..on the way out she changed her mind, going with 2 guys, only 1 paying etc we would have felt a little afraid. So she baled out while trying to find her friends and lo and behold, Piper’s favourite PRC turns up and 5 mins later we are heading to chez Piper with her

Zing Zing (spelling Piper) is a naughty girl, unabashed, full of confidence and loves the camera. So bizarre as this may seem (but if know me quite normal for me), there was Piper in his birthday suit shagging the living daylights out of ZZ and having a great time doing while at times directing the photographer. Hope I captured the moment Piper ;). It is what friends are for of course…..

I was not a PRC man as I said earlier so after a couple of hundred pictures I went to bed, up early and drove home.

All in all a fun night, good to catch up with Piper again talk about a few pressing issues both monger and non monger, offer him my services as moral guidance counselor and photographer etc. Thanks for the hospitality, bedroom is all clean no floating condoms like at MK’s place last year ;) and no half ends of condom wrappers either.

Keep hard and horny

I was going to visit Sheraton Deira clubs the other night (I remembered very beautiful CIS girls there), but a very reliable source told me that Sheraton Deira no longer has WGs. LE forced them out about a month ago. What is the world coming to?

[QUOTE=Piper1] LE forced them out about a month ago. What is the world coming to?[/QUOTE]One wonders on how LE actions are decided upon. Stopping girls working a bar is a legitimate LE activity. But why the selective targeting? I assume it’s because by restricting WG’s (or ay least overt WG’s) to certain bars the profile is somewhat reduced (zones of tolerance).

Another LE technique seems to be the imposition of quotas on bars, we saw a lot of this at the York last year were LE told the management that only N PRCs and N Africans were allowed inside at any given time, and more recently at the Seaview. I also wonder how the racial quotas are decided. Reports suggest that the Seaview quotas are heavily weighted against the Africans, and to a lesser extent against the PRCs, with PI girls taking up the slack. Many of the PI girls are controlled. Can we draw any conclusions here?

[B]Rumour Control[/B]
Reports elsewhere say that the Panorama Hotel (Jockey's) will be demolished before the end of the year and the site re-developed. That will be the end of an era.

[QUOTE=Barcrawler]One wonders on how LE actions are decided upon...Another LE technique seems to be the imposition of quotas on bars...Can we draw any conclusions here?[/QUOTE]Does anyone else have doubts that there are actual LE quotas? It sounds like a stretch to me.

I suggest that LE may mention something to the club owners/managers about toning things down, but outright quotas "you can only have X PRC and Y Africans" sounds unlikely.

Bar/club managers may indeed have quotas for the door staff to regulate the crowd mix, for any number of reasons. Most WG´s I have spoken to related that they did frequent the same places (the office) but that this was driven by inertia, (where they were taken the first time) friends, punter density/ethnicity and lastly somewhere where the management tolerated them.

I have no doubt that there is some serious backhanding going on to LE types, but again, I doubt it is organized to the point of quotas. What I have seen is serious VIP comps for LE types (including parties) but not much else.

Am I missing something?

Visited York after alomost a year . It is now more of a meat market. There is no live band and I believe it will begin after EID. Excellent place to pick up and crack a deal as the lights are on and you can talk to negoiate the price , the music is not too loud. I picked up a black female for ST. Ever since I came back from Mombassa I've got a thing for black asses. Even though thier looks vary from 5 to 8 , they have been blessed with a perfect ass.

[QUOTE=Sporadic]Does anyone else have doubts that there are actual LE quotas? It sounds like a stretch to me.[/QUOTE]My source for Seaview door policy was.[QUOTE=Jenas]As for door policy at the Seaview (recent thread), they very nearly went the same way as Cyclone and Amnesia, especially after many of the Cyclone PRCs started turning up and causing trouble. Policy (as directed by CID) until after Ramadan is that CSIs and PIs have total access, PRCs are to be kept to a small number, and Africans are not allowed, except when accompanied - this being due to an ongoing fued between some of the new African girls and the regular PRCs, which at one stage resulted in an all out brawl in the Ladies.[/QUOTE]May be Jenas could elaborate but this tied in with reports I heard from a couple of sources that last years York quotas were LE directed.

It is of course possible these are interpretations of a more general directive by club management, or an individual LE officer for that matter.

[QUOTE=Zing Uk]Someone mentioned trying to get a GFE the other day being very difficult if the girl doesn't speak good English. I agree 100%, I did meet a real cutie last night but my Chinese was better than her English and that only consists of "Hello, do you ant to f%^k! " Last nights girl was actually very well educated and speaks pretty good English, so much so that her mates were all asking her to type their text messages for them! So next time you get "hello, I want to love you long time" on your Nokia, beware, it may not be from who you think![/QUOTE]Always a trade off. IF ((all caps) she comes here speaking little english, by the time she speaks good english, she has also developed a shell. Self-protection.

If you take the time with the "little english" ones (and these days, most all have electronic dictionaries, so smart now they translate complete sentences), they do remember the punters who were nice, considerate, and understanding when they were starting out, and there is no shell.

Miss F and Miss T perfect examples. Miss F of the former: good english, easily carry on a conversation, enough that her wit showed through, always a fun time, great sex. But not QUITE a GFE. Miss T started off with limited english, improving every week. No shell, completely open, total GFE. She even apologized for bailing out early the 1 Thursday, saying she was embarrassed that she'd been thinking just about money.

Have been asked to help with a number of sms's myself. And not only sms's. Also e-mails. I really had to laugh when one guy replied back he really appreciated how hard she must be studying as her english had improved so much. :)
[QUOTE=Tony #1]So their you have it some of these girls are out for a good time, and I can't stress enough, if you treat these girls like human beings and be a gentle man, theyre will treat you like royalty.
Info to newbies, just get out there and play, you will find more than you ever thoguht you, would. [/QUOTE]Well said, and I agree. Nothing like going [i]shopping[/i] for yourself; you have to fend THEM off. Showing BASIC human decency gains a lot, which always makes me wonder what the "average" punter is like.
[QUOTE=Member #1071]Meanwhile my friend was enjoying his time.[/QUOTE]I'd say your friend owes you a stunner. :)
[QUOTE=Kokkos2]Thank you Mr. Bravo for the late afternoon-early evening advice. Will follow it up, especially when working the next day.[/quote]Afternoon/early evening venues always a bit hit and miss, dependent on how HER night was last night. For a more certain thing, when out at night, get a few phone numbers, then call for an afternoon's appointment.
[QUOTE=Kokkos2]To the senior members: Is 400 too steep at an AMP? Everything (like discovery channel) on the menu included. If so, what are the going rates?[/quote]Never been to one, so don't know. Seems like the standard (or used to be) posted was something like 100 house/100 girl, though that has no doubt gone up. I'd say to just make sure how much is for the house, and how much for the girl, making sure she gets a fair cut (I've heard of some being "tipped" the stunning amount of 20 dhs (no typo, twenty dhs).
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]An aside: the ‘singer’ as I call him or I think 11B and Sporadic say’ man in white shirt’ was there strutting his stuff, singing away, air guitar the lot. My first time of seeing him and now I can appreciate the comments. [/QUOTE]There's 2:[list][*]Mr. White Shirt, the old guy, have heard from several sources he's a sailor, living on a ship while waiting for it to be repaired. How long can it take to repair a ship and let it sail FAR [b]FAR[/b] away?[*]Mr. Fat Guy, as one PRC calls him, is all right - he sings WITH the band, not ahead of them, and does a great rendition of "House of the Rising Sun."[/list][QUOTE=Expatcat]They might not get as much as the pretty ones and so go for it great guns.[/QUOTE]My target class is what used to be referred to as the Cyclone chorus (not necessarily at Cyclone). Not the stunners who never doubt they will have a customer, just a matter of WHICH one, but the chorus girls. Very attractive, and appreciative of some fun business. You get the looks without the attitude.
[QUOTE=Sporadic]Most WG´s I have spoken to related that they did frequent the same places (the office) but that this was driven by inertia, (where they were taken the first time) friends, punter density/ethnicity and lastly somewhere where the management tolerated them.[/quote]Agree. From those that I know, it's where they were taken to first by their mentor/boss, then where their friends go. Once settled in, a lot will migrate upwards as far as the market allows, looking for the "preferred" customers. Others stay in their niche (the old cliche, "In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king"). All reluctant to try new/other venues for the fear that their presence will bring them grief.

[QUOTE=Piper1]I was going to visit Sheraton Deira clubs the other night (I remembered very beautiful CIS girls there), but a very reliable source told me that Sheraton Deira no longer has WGs. LE forced them out about a month ago. What is the world coming to?[/QUOTE]

I visited the Club Thursday night and yesterday, I confirm the presence of CIS WGs mainly, couple of africans, no PRC's.
probably around 50 WG's each time. Couple of CIS stunners, others are average. Two pretty Africans for those who fancy colored ladies.

Picked one moldovan cute girl, my friend picked up a blond Ukrainian girls, and headed to the latter place as the Moldovan girl refused to go to a flat, but would go with another WG.
Had a good time paid 1000 AED each for a full night, around 6 am everybody went home....

[QUOTE=11Bravo]Always a trade off. IF ((all caps) she comes here speaking little english, by the time she speaks good english, she has also developed a shell. Self-protection.

If you take the time with the "little english" ones (and these days, most all have electronic dictionaries, so smart now they translate complete sentences), they do remember the punters who were nice, considerate, and understanding when they were starting out, and there is no shell.

Well said, and I agree. Nothing like going [i]shopping[/i] for yourself; you have to fend THEM off. Showing BASIC human decency gains a lot, which always makes me wonder what the "average" punter is like.
I'd say your friend owes you a stunner. :)
[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with 11B in many ways, really was into the PRC scene a year or so back before landing a real PRC GF. Got to the point where more experienced girls were sending new girls to me to teach them a bit about what was expected and teach them some English - sometimes because they couldn't get punters in their 'raw' state. Spent many hours teaching English and using those electronic dictionaries which agreed 11B, are truly marvellous - especially as sentence structure in Chinese is different. Only seem to be able to buy them in China. Of course they knew I was patient, a real nice handsome guy :) and I knew a bit of Mandarin Chinese and also etiquette which helped the communication. Some girls literally only knew 4 or 5 words. Some were very nice but naive of the scene they were entering and even sex. Quite a number of new girls invariably had a untrimmed bush and sex really was lying there and thinking of China which is how they had sex with husbands and boyfriends at home! Some knew nothing of bj's and DATY or even being taken doggy! Some girls never 'made it' and have gone home but a few are still here now (in AUH my adopted city) and still friendly (when my GF isn't there!). This is a generalisation of course and Chinese young people, particularly in the cities are becoming more open sexually.

Certainly agree that there is no shell for me but professionally they are different with most short-term customers who never meet the 'real' girl only ever knowing them by their English name, never seeing their home, having them cook dinner for you, seeing them with their friends and getting 'the fuller range of services that they too enjoy' out of hours. I recently had sex with one of the girls again, first time in around 6-8 months and her skills have improved no end and as a friend I was inside the shell and she stayed for free rather than stay in her apartment with around 20 other girls with phones ringing all night and queing for the shower. I know she would move in tonight if she could be my GF. Her English is hugely improved. Another girl now has a boyfriend but we're still (very) close.

Makes me laugh when people want the GFE though! Some don't know half all the headaches I (we?) have. Chinese girls in my experience are generally very protective of their man, very jealous and concerned where they are and what they may be doing, which business girls are looking at them...can't tell you how many arguments this causes. They also tend to jump in with both feet when they love someone and the drama if there is any suggestion it will end is scary. The 'overnight GFE' would be a more appropriate request!

Re the 'average' customer. Well for most girls it's just a job and money. Despite what some people may think the girls are mainly looking for easy money in the shortest time or good money over a longer period. Next time you see an old boy with a young Chinese part of it may be that he wants to talk and can't f*ck her and she knows it too. They are cautious of drunk, unpredictable, strong people that could hurt them or get angry because they can't get it up or because they are too rough with them. There are of course a few who get well f*cked but maybe they hope you may become a husband, you pay well and there are some who do love sex and they just like the look of you - we all hope for the latter. :) My experience of girls has been very good but I have always extended many courtesies, appreciated them, paid them, made it hopefully a reasonable experience but it is clear this isn't always the case with some customers and they get treated like *****s. Most recently I have FR'd on experiences with PI and Stan girls...their usual clients are Arab - so they tell me. Now, no disrespect to the Arab population in general, but clearly the girls in the bedroom had a shell, expected a certain level of treatment i.e. get f*cked with few niceities and go. Took a bit of work, some attention and appreciation and a better experience was had by both patrties I hope.

Be nice, it's worth it.