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Question about SA. For those that have used it or use it regularly, what percentage of the girls want money for short term dates and which percentage are actually looking for a sugar daddy that aren't interested in short term dates or the one week tourist. I don't want to spend the 90 bucks if most of the girls want a longer term sugar daddies with some sort of monthly allowance.
There are some really attractive girls on there in the 18 to 25 range. I'm getting over 1000 hits when I narrow my search down.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2421735]You can't make an appointment weeks in advance and expect to get right in. A few of the girls, maybe 1 in 30 can keep an appointment 3 days out. Anything longer than that and you're playing the lottery. Anything longer than 24 hours in advance is a sucker's bet.[/QUOTE]24 hours? Shit. The whole game is a sucker's bet. I had a non-pro coming by last week. She was literally on her way then all of a sudden sent me a message that her sister was having a baby and she had to take the clothes to the hospital so she could not come.
Funny how you can talk to a chick for weeks and nothing is going on in her life. Then you show up with boots on the ground and fire alarms are going off everywhere for her. My buddy said I was lucky she even told me that. He said most chicks would not even give the courtesy of an excuse; they just would not show up or say anything about it.
I reported about a casa chick supposed to come by. I sent her a message that night asking if she was ready to come. Nothing. The next day I sent a message asking what happened. A week later, still nothing! The game has gone to shit IMO. At least when you deal in casas and SW you don't get the problem of chicks being late and not showing up because they are already there.
Now here's a thought: if you're banging a big bootied Colombiana in doggy, what size dick do you need to have for her to feel anything? Hahaha.
I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger, but realistically, those giant asses (which I adore) must be limiting in terms of different positions.
Some more strip club visits.
Luna Lunera - 10 k entry, not that's full but lots of guys and maybe only 6 girls free at midnight and none of which I liked. The waiter when I asked for a beer, said something about a minimum spend or minimum number of beers you can buy at once couldn't understand, either way said it will be 50 k for 3 beers. I just left.
La Isla. Not really that busy this time, ratio is high though loads of girls free, lots of fake asses, some good looking girls. 10 k entry 22 k beer. I hanged out here a while.
Conejitas Bar and grill. Packed with guys not many girls about only handful free. 6 k beer.
Grill nueva Avenida. I walked in and out, not many guys in here, lots of girls available though, none I liked.
Maracaibo. Also quiet in here, but loads of girls free, one or two doable but most poor. 12 k beer.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2422012]24 hours? Shit. The whole game is a sucker's bet. I had a non-pro coming by last week. She was literally on her way then all of a sudden sent me a message that her sister was having a baby and she had to take the clothes to the hospital so she could not come.
Funny how you can talk to a chick for weeks and nothing is going on in her life. Then you show up with boots on the ground and fire alarms are going off everywhere for her. My buddy said I was lucky she even told me that. He said most chicks would not even give the courtesy of an excuse; they just would not show up or say anything about it.
I reported about a casa chick supposed to come by. I sent her a message that night asking if she was ready to come. Nothing. The next day I sent a message asking what happened. A week later, still nothing! The game has gone to shit IMO. At least when you deal in casas and SW you don't get the problem of chicks being late and not showing up because they are already there.[/QUOTE]I remember a waitress I'd been talking to and hanging out with for about 3 months in Poblado. She kept talking about being my girlfriend. I finally set up a date with her. No show, no responses. Never another message until about 4 months later, 2 months after I was back in the US. She had just found out I wasn't in Medellin and wanted to ***** me out because I never told her I was leaving.
I've found a few who are usually reliable. Part of the problem, every tiny thing becomes a 4 alarm fire. If their cat coughs up a hairball, it's a family emergency. Not only do they have to cancel, but they need money in case the cat needs to go to the vet.
Add on the Colombian national reluctance to say "no", and there's often going to be problems.
For those who don't understand, Colombian culture has an aversion to giving a direct "no" to people. If you ask a girl for a date, she'll often say yes, or at least leave you thinking she said yes, even though the thought of a date with you makes her nauseous. It's throughout the culture. Ask any gringo running a business in Colombia. So if a girl says she wants to see you. It either means she wants to see you or she doesn't want to see you, but doesn't want to come out and say it.
I just got back to the states after a long weekend in Medellin and figured I'd share my experience since several of you have been helpful with me. I figured I'd give some context about myself and what I'm looking for in case there are others in a similar situation. I'm married (lucky to have a wife that is cool with me having occasional adventures), mid 30's, conisder myself fit and decent looking and am a fluent Spanish speaker. I'm also well endowed, which, as I'll detail below can make things complicated. I've had P4P experiences in Costa Rica, Thailand, Mexico, and Peru before. I'm primarily looking for sexual experiences I can't normally have at home so PSE type activities, with looks, also being important but less so than for many. I was with 4 providers (5 sessions) while I was there so this is a small sample. But I did notice some trends.
Anyway, I both took the time to try the Facebook game ahead of time and contact chicas and try casas. I visited Centro but feel like I would have needed more time on the ground to get anything there. I ended up staying both in Poblado and Laurales at Hotel Loyds and San Peter suites. I'll break down some thoughts about general P4 P culture, accommodations, and specific girls below.
P4 P culture observations: Some of this has been said before but here are some of my thoughts based on my experience interacting with chicas. One of my biggest mistakes and misunderstandings at the beginning related to time vs. Leches / polvos. You need to be clear when negotiating with girls in both casas and on FB that you want to have sex with them multiple times (if that is what you are looking for). It's not enough to set up a long date. This is quite different from my experiences in Thailand especially and Peru (with escorts) as well. Generally, you need to be explicit with FB girls about what you want in terms of services and also expect some of them to try to get out of those services. I had little luck with FB girls for anal in particular but as stated above I'm well endowed so there were a couple who said yes online and then no once they saw me. I started to be more explicit that I was well endowed later on. I didn't have too many issues with girls being late. I set up one date with a casa girl who flaked on me because said her boss wouldn't let her leave work early but mostly things went well in terms of timing and logistics. I definitely would not recommend trying to set up a last-minute date at night. Its probably better, in that case, to go to Parque Lleras or a strip club. I was trying to set things up around 8 pm on Saturday after my casa girl couldn't show up and it was hard to a) get girls high up on the list that I really wanted to see and b) I had a couple who were flaky or stopped communicating midway through our chats.
Accommodations: I was originally booked to stay in Energy Living in Poblado but as I wrote about earlier they had an issue and I had to find something else last minute (thanks to those of you who sent me suggestions by the way). I ended up staying at Hotel Loyds the first night and San Peter the second. I liked the accommodations at Hotel Loyds a lot. They had nice room for $35 good breakfast, l and the area was quiet. There were no issues with girls though I only had 1 date over there. I didn't really like that part of poblado much, though. It was nearly too fancy as I could not find closeby convenience stores or groceries and there were mostly offices and fancy restaurants. I staid in San Peter my second and 3rd night. The rooms there are decent. I didn't like the fact that I had to pay in cash and leave cash deposit. The staff also took a really long time to get some batteries to fix my safe. I also found the area to be too noisy for me personally (I brought earplugs but they only help so much). The party / club noise there goes on until 3 or so in the morning on the weekends. I really liked the neighborhood there a lot more, though. There are a load of nice restaurants and bars around and the neighborhood had a good vibe. So for next time, I'd love to find a place a few blocks away that was quieter but was still in Laurales.
Chicas: The fist night I saw Angie Munoz, which I already wrote about. In brief, she was OK but as I said had a cold / flu which was a bit of a turnoff. I didn't ask for and would have been pissed if she'd tried to kiss me. She is hot but her services weren't quite on the PSE level for me. My size as mentioned in the earlier post made anal a no go. She gives decent head but doesn't really do deep throat (at least for me and this may be related to size issues too). She also left after about an hour saying she needed to get some medicine for her cold / flu. Luckily I don't seem to have caught what she had but I was definitely freaking out after she left. I'd give here a be- to be for the experience but I believe that when she is healthy and feeling good she gives good service. As with everyone YMMV.
On the 2nd day, I want to Centro with Punkedlife and afterward we went to New Life. I think casas are the way to go for those of you looking for similar experiences that I am. At New Life after the long lineup, I asked the owner to send back the girls that did anal. He sent a couple and in to our room and I made my choice from there. The girl from my 2nd date was good looking in a girl next door sort of way but no model. However, she gave me great service, anal no problem, BBJ etc a couple of shots in the hour etc. I also took down her contact info via WhatsApp. She was originally going to do a TLN with me but ended up spending a few hours with me before I left. That last session ended up being my best one as it was a great mix of GFE and PSE. I hurt my foot earlier and she was very caring and loving in how she took care of me. But she was also happy to do all the things I wanted and told me she liked anal afterward. When I come back I think I will try the casa / personal contact approach more and possibly also use photoprepagos in combination with Catadores to find good leads on what I'm looking for.
I had my 3rd date with Angie Paola Gomez to come over for a few hours. She is cute, though a bit darker than in her photos (a common theme I noticed). Like Angie Munoz she has some tattoos. She came quickly without issues but is a bit scammy with her "uber" rates. She has a BF who drives her and she asks for 25 mil each way. I tend to chalk those sorts of things up to experience but I'd be very explicit about pricing for transport if you chose to see her. My session with her was interesting. She said she'd done anal before but when she saw my size it was off the table. The sex was OK but not incredible. She also was on her phone every now and then before and after sex, which I found annoying. The most interesting part of the experience with her was that she whipped out her vibrator (without me asking) and played with herself for a good 20 minutes when we were in bed. For those of you who bring or like toys, and like to watch girls masturbate she might be a good choice. She told me she loved Hitachi vibrators and she also said she was bi and had several girlfriends (can't attest to that). I found her to be a bit too distracted with her phone during our time, though, which was a turnoff. She was also not quite what I was looking for service wise but it was an interesting experience.
4 rth date I figured I'd look for a more GFE / girl next door experience for my next session so I set up a session with another FB girl (not sharing details since she seems low volume). She came to my place in the morning for a three-hour session and I told her no phone beforehand. She was a little older (late 20's) and had kids but that is not an issue for me. She was interesting to talk to and quite nice and was also quite affectionate. We had mechanical / physical issues with sex, though as she had a small vagina and mouth. I'd asked for multiple sessions during our time but we ended up only having sex once because she got hurt during sex. I'm pretty sure I bruised her cervix as the condom was bloody when I pulled out to change positions and she was in pain afterward. I don't blame her for stopping at the one session and she was a really nice / cool person who taught me a lot about life in Medellin. Lesson learned from there on out is to be explicit about size (in my case) as well as activities.
So, all in all, it was a good, but short trip. I think Medellin is a multi-trip or long trip destination ideally so you have a chance to repeat with good providers and build up relationships. I really only got exactly what I was looking for with my casa girl but I'd consider the trip a success given my experience with her. I'm sure if I had more time I could find a few girls like her who had no issue with my size, had good personalities and could take care of my specific needs. I don't think Facebook is a particularly good spot for looking for PSE providers either (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).
[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2421875]Thank you for coming to the rescue SuperMonger! Without your condescending bullshit post I would be totally lost in life. What other morsels of knowledge do you have for my ignorant green ass? I am a member on a few forums like this and I got to appreciate you little dick veterans of the board quick to give the "new guy" a ribbing. Regardless of how you digested my post or how I may sound, I am not a "newby". I am a pervert with disposable income just like your keyboard warrior ass. And who says I was hunting for BBFS? You must be talking about the post where the OP was wondering about BBFS and I shared with him some information that was given to me? Notice how I responded without being a prick and with no condescending tone. Oh I get it you're one of those control freaks huh. You're probably one of those guys whose prick is too small to do any damage BCD so you belittle everyone and torment providers to overcompensate. Since that's the case chew away pencil dick, chew away.[/QUOTE]My goodness! Why do so many guys spend time fantasizing about the size of my penis? Should I open up a website to sell pictures of it?
You are correct on one thing, which I didn't realize until after I posted. You weren't the one asking about women who advertise BBFS you simply responded. I apologise for my error.
You probably should have stuck with the "responded without being a prick" thing. Stooping to the level where you're fantasizing about another man's penis and his sexual interactions with women, on a public forum might misrepresent the sort of person you really are.
Your post was full of errors which an experienced monger should have known to avoid.
1. You want to stay at Hotel Nutibara because it has a reputation for being chica friendly, but it's been reported several times as now charging a chica fee, prohibiting Venezuelans and not allowing overnight visitors.
2. You specifically picked Medellin for "big, jiggly, natural booty. " Plastic surgery is a major industry in Medellin. It's like picking Iowa for the fresh Maine lobster.
3. You specifically picked Medellin for "big, jiggly, natural booty. " There are 4 ways to get big booty; genetics, medically, targeted exercise or obesity. Only obesity consistently results in big, jiggly booty. Genetically, Colombian women have no major advantage in that department. The medical route gives an advantage, but that's not natural. Obesity, except among Venezuelan refugees, isn't common in Colombia. Which leaves exercise, eliminating "jiggly" from the equation.
Medellin is nestled in a series of valleys. The poorest people live on the hillsides. For generations they've been walking up and down steep hills carrying heavy burdens. Which means you'll find a lot of well muscled legs and firm, noticeable asses. Not much in the jiggly department.
4. You asked where was the best place to find those booties. It's frequently reported available talent in any place varies from day to day, often from hour to hour. Asking for the best place and time to find something, in a country where that thing isn't especially common, isn't likely to yield useful information. Surfer500 has pointed out that there are plenty of fat Venezuelans with big butts in Botero Plaza. If you're looking for women who aren't fat, but still have "big, jiggly, natural booty" I'm afraid you're going to have an unproductive trip.
Research is the monger's best friend, whether he's a newby or an old hand. It might not prevent you from making a mistake, but it helps immensely in recognizing and recovering from the mistake.
If you had done some research on me, you would see I'm not:
1. A keyboard warrior. I'll happily meet you and tell you the same stuff and buy you a beer.
2. A control freak. I'm the guy telling people to do whatever works best for them. If I had a tagline it would be "your money, your dick, your business."
3. Someone who torments providers. I'm the guy saying "treat them nice, show respect, don't be an asshole."
4. Belittle everyone. Granted I belittle more than a few. Guys come along with crazy plans or ridiculous expectations. I used to try and reason with them, but those types seldom listen. Now I ridicule them. Not because it will keep them from doing something stupid or dangerous, because it might prevent the next guy from the same mistakes. However, if someone comes along interested in learning, I am always happy to offer advice.
Where, in your worldwide mongering have you found the booties you're searching for in Medellin? What is it about Medellin which makes you think it will be superior? What other comparisons, besides the booty, influenced your decision? Share a little bit and perhaps someone can steer you in a better direction.
Or we can go to the "Stupid Shit in Medellin" thread and argue about my penis.
Man I could not make a chick bleed even if she was on the rag. Size is nothing I ever had to worry about that's for sure. That was a well written review by the way and it looks like you made the most out of your short stay. And luckily you didn't catch anything from Angie. I picked something up my last few days there but not sure from who / where. But it's nice to be able to hit the pharmacy for antibiotics without having to go see a doc first. Thanks for the good post!
[QUOTE=Recondite;2422110] We had mechanical / physical issues with sex, though as she had a small vagina and mouth. I'd asked for multiple sessions during our time but we ended up only having sex once because she got hurt during sex. I'm pretty sure I bruised her cervix as the condom was bloody when I pulled out to change positions and she was in pain afterward...ther (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).[/QUOTE]
Sara Morales Facebook. Is smaller and bit chubbier than her photos make her look but she did do everything I want over a few hours so was happy enough.
The above girl was the only one I saw on Facebook, I didn't spend too much time on it and only spoke to maybe 10 or so but contrary to what I read here only 2 would do 200 k for 2 hours and no restrictions, lots will say CBJ but if you ignore them they come back and say they will but the biggest problem is multiple cums, even when they agree to 2 hours they say it's 1 cum only, I must be missing something because if you want one pop there are cheaper and easier options. One had been chasing me to meet all week but once I say multiple leche she completely shut down, I asked her out of curiosity what we do for the rest of the time then when I cum after 30 minutes, she said most guys spend the time socializing with her then sex once.
I spent most my time on seeking as I did in every city and found what I want there, which is a few hours unrestricted sex. And when I need a quick session during the day the casas.
Hearing all the recent talks of fellow Ass-men visiting soon to the well-endowed not finding susceptible culitos to penetrate, I just want to say.
There are asses of all shapes and sizes readily available on all the hoe-ing platforms especially easy when it comes to just finding them on the streets of Centro. Anal is like 40 Mil there, just saying. You will find one that can take you in!
[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422036]Now here's a thought: if you're banging a big bootied Colombiana in doggy, what size dick do you need to have for her to feel anything? Hahaha.
I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger, but realistically, those giant asses (which I adore) must be limiting in terms of different positions.[/QUOTE]I have a 6" at best and the size of the ass has never affected my sexual experience & I've porked a few thick thick women in both Panama and Colombia, I'm talking 45" give or take butt. Btw, backshot is the deepest penetrative position, it's actually perfect for a smaller cock; if a girl isn't feeling anything in that position then your penis is so small she won't feel anything in any position.
[QUOTE=Uthred;2422172]Man I could not make a chick bleed even if she was on the rag. Size is nothing I ever had to worry about that's for sure. That was a well written review by the way and it looks like you made the most out of your short stay. And luckily you didn't catch anything from Angie. I picked something up my last few days there but not sure from who / where. But it's nice to be able to hit the pharmacy for antibiotics without having to go see a doc first. Thanks for the good post![/QUOTE]I didn't get an STD on my trip, but I did get sick for a week right after my trip. Some type of respiratory infection, felt sick for a few days, bad cough, and the lingering effects for a week and a half. I am hoping I don't contract this every time I go mongering.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2422110] I'm primarily looking for sexual experiences I can't normally have at home so PSE type activities, with looks, also being important but less so than for many. I had little luck with FB girls for anal in particular but as stated above I'm well endowed so there were a couple who said yes online and then no once they saw me. I don't think Facebook is a particularly good spot for looking for PSE providers either (rather its best for those primarily interested in looks or in more semi-pro types).[/QUOTE]If you are looking for PSE experience with anal, try Brazil.
Anal is pretty normal there and sure girls wouldn't have issue with bigger package.
From me at least, Colombian girls are more conservative where CBJ is normal and anal / CIM is hard to come by.
On the another side, every chick that I have been with from Brazil offer BBJ, anal and CIM as regular service
I personally prefer CBJ due to my STD phobia and girls looked at me crazy when I ask to put the condom on. Hahaha.
Colombia is still my favorite place to visit but give Brazil a try if you can.
[QUOTE=Mlatimudan;2422036]..I imagine all of us here are at least 20 cm or bigger...[/QUOTE]
I doubt it. Quote from 'Medical News Today'...
"The average erect penis is 13.12 cm (5.17 in) long. Penises longer than 6 inches when erect are rare, with this length of penis falling in the 90th percentile. ".
Probably why most chicks love a big dick, they're not seeing them as many times in their lives as we think they are LOL.