Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1843742]Spent a little less than an hour at CH last night as some friends insisted we go there. Guys, honestly, I don't see the attraction. It is very crowded, loud, with horrid music, and they allow smoking. Can't see how it is in anyway fun. The gals are just not all that. Quite a few are plastic surgery nightmares, looking like they had their noses and breasts done by Somchai the plastic surgeon on a street corner in Ubon. Their attitudes are very lacking; almost all of them will smile when looking at their "customer" and then give a blank stare or even a scowl when looking away or at their friends. I used to love GoGos. But jeez, if this is the best BKK has to offer, I'm glad the biz is flagging. Saw only one or two that I would even think about paying 1500ST and not a single one would I even consider to pay the insane prices they are asking. I mean honestly, dudes pay 4 k when all is added in for ST with these gals? Huh? Really I don't see what many of you guys are raving about.[/QUOTE]I don't get that hot beautiful girls are 1000 to 1,5000 Bt on Soi 4 sidewalk and suckers pay LD, BF, tips, & 4000 Bt+ in those stupid bars.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1843837]No, the business is not flagging.[/QUOTE]Very few GoGos do a good biz these days. CH is one of the few exceptions, though for the life of me I can't see why. Poke your head into most GoGos and they are quite empty. The GoGo biz is on the decline in BKK. Can't speak for Pattaya as I have only been there for three nights in the past three years.

How are things at the Biergarten? Anyone getting lucky there?

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1843891]I don't get that hot beautiful girls are 1000 to 1,5000 Bt on Soi 4 sidewalk and suckers pay LD, BF, tips, & 4000 Bt+ in those stupid bars.[/QUOTE]It cost more so it must be better.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774]Can anyone suggest a guest friendly hotel between Nana and Cowboy? By the way if you use your own hotel as a short time will the girl walk with you to the hotel or insist on using a cab?[/QUOTE]I like Citypoint Hotel a lot ([URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/th/citypoint.en-gb.html[/URL]) when I stay a few days in Bangkok. For a longer stay, I'd rather book a studio at Citadines Soi 23. Both places are within easy walking distance from Soi Cowboy and none of the girls I brought there complained or wanted a taxi.

Of course, both places are guest-friendly and will take a photocopy of the girl's ID-card.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774]Is anal and CIM considered as extra or inclusive in short time?[/QUOTE]You will have to negotiate that with the girl before you barfine her. Some will do, some won't, some may ask extra money.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774]Which bar can I go to find light skin anal providers?[/QUOTE]Cockatoo in Soi Cowboy? .

I'm reading all the posts related to Freelancers from some time spread across various pages both in BKK / Pattaya forums.

What I understood form the reports is "Never bargain / consider a Freelancer for LT even if she is looking like a stunner". The reason behind this is obvious & known to all. Instead bargain with them for ST and while bargaining surely mention that you might continue LT with them if they perform well in ST. This option gives flexibility in terms of examining the girl based on her body & performance. It also somehow indicates the girl that she can earn for the whole night if perform well. Not sure whether all Freelancers agree to these kind of terms but I believe it's possible.

This is just my view, anyone have any better way to deal with Freelancers feel free to suggest.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774]Can anyone suggest a guest friendly hotel between Nana and Cowboy? [/QUOTE]I like Salil Hotel on soi 11, because you can bring 2 girls for a threesome without pay any extra charge for second guest.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774] By the way if you use your own hotel as a short time will the girl walk with you to the hotel or insist on using a cab? [/QUOTE]I found many girls that are lazy to walk for 10 minutes and this is a bad sign for me.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774] Is anal and CIM considered as extra or inclusive in short time? [/QUOTE]Always ask in advance what you want.

[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1843774] Which bar can I go to final light skin anal providers?[/QUOTE]For be sure about anal you can go to Eden Club on soi 7/1 or check the PSE oils massage around soi 24/26.

[QUOTE=DCups;1843912]How are things at the Biergarten? Anyone getting lucky there?[/QUOTE]I was there in October and very satisfied. Thai women, even being 30 old or more, keep thin bodies and all provided self-evidently BBBJ and CIM (one even anal, but I don't like). Had 3 women in 2 days, all very nice, handsome and. ;cheap. For me it is necessarily my 1st destination when going back. AT Nataree, you will see plenty of really beautiful girls but you will pay at least 2500 and even not get a BBBJ! So think about.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1843967]Cockatoo in Soi Cowboy? .[/QUOTE]555555555.

[QUOTE=DCups;1843912]How are things at the Biergarten? Anyone getting lucky there?[/QUOTE]Was there last night. Almost all of the women are old. I would say the average age in the evenings is over 40 with some clocking in at well over 50. Pretty scary actually. There is always a few gals worth taking though.

Thanks. That sounds more like it and more in tune with Nana parking lot girls. Can't say that I saw many good looking girls in and around the Alcocarts on my visit but timing is everything -- same as in Nana. As much as I hate to admit this, it's possible the Alcocart girl I interacted with simply did not want to go with me and quoted a high price to discourage me. Be*.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1843800]Best thing to do is just ask them right upfront if they can go with you. If they aren't working, nothing lost.

As for prices, the three that I have taken from one the carts were 1000 (for 2 girls) and one for 1500. All three stayed LT.

IMO 2000 for a girl working outside is high.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hiete;1843865]What are my chances to take a Soi Cowboy girl out to Hotel Mermaid? Is still considered to be an acceptable walking distance or should I look for a closer by hotel?

Are there better options than bringing a Go-Go girl "home" at night?[/QUOTE]Unless the girl is wearing spike heels or is wobbly on her feet from alcohol, I wouldn't waste the time trying to flag down a taxi who will agree to take me to Hotel Mermaid. I would just walk there with her. Go by way of Soi 23 where Crazy House is rather than back toward Asoke and it couldn't take you more than 6-8 minutes.

[QUOTE=JesseJames;1843891]I don't get that hot beautiful girls are 1000 to 1,5000 Bt on Soi 4 sidewalk and suckers pay LD, BF, tips, & 4000 Bt+ in those stupid bars.[/QUOTE]I would say that if the top 20% better looking girls working in many if not most of the Nana / Soi Cowboy go-go bars didn't show up for work at their bar tonight but instead began to stand on Sukhumvit Road and Soi 4 looking for customers at 1,000-1,500 baht per ST, this night would go down in history as one of the most remarkable buyer's opportunities of the past decade.

You can find diamonds in the rough on those streets. But the reality is you will find a much more concentrated selection of good bodies, attractive faces, young and healthy girls as well as better performance level in the go-go bars than in any other option in the city. And it isn't as though you are getting nothing of value by paying those additional charges. You are sitting in an air-conditioned bar, can order something to drink while you scan the ladies, see the girls much more in the flesh rather than bundled up hiding all the usual problem areas, watch how they move their bodies (or not), she will sit next to you nearly naked for a time so you can find out if there is a critical body-to-body chemistry going between the two of you before you say let's go and so on.

So, yes, it can be a cheaper option to just pick a girl standing on Soi 4 and go to your hotel room. But I don't think customers are suckers for looking for a girl in a go-go bar instead. They are getting something of value in those go-go bars that the freelancer customer is not getting. Where they fall into the sucker category, IMO, is in the way they do or do not choose to negotiate and communicate with the girls what they want in exchange for what the girl expects them to pay. But that can be the case with the freelancer customer just as well as with the go-go bar customer.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1844057]as well as better performance level in the go-go bars than in any other option in the city. [/QUOTE]I beg to differ. GoGo gal's performance pales in comparison to what you get at oilies, where a well polished skill set, rimming, CIM, DFK, MSOG, good attitudes, getting performance for the full time you pay for is standard. And in many cases A+ is available. I frequented GoGos back in the "Good Ole Days" and even then the best gals were not up to the performance standards one gets in the PSE oilies today.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1844069]I beg to differ. GoGo gal's performance pales in comparison to what you get at oilies, where a well polished skill set, rimming, CIM, DFK, MSOG, good attitudes, getting performance for the full time you pay for is standard. And in many cases A+ is available. I frequented GoGos back in the "Good Ole Days" and even then the best gals were not up to the performance standards one gets in the PSE oilies today.[/QUOTE]You're talking about specific acts, not level or maybe I should have said quality of performance. I have found that the quality of FS and BBBJ CIM I have gotten with go-go girls is WAY better than the best of either I have ever gotten in an oily, most of which were mechanical, misguided auto-pilot disasters.

But, yes, if I were looking for a girl to rim my butt with her tongue (doubtful that I ever would, but just saying), I would go to an oily to find her, not a go-go bar.