Dubai Reports

Its interesting reading through these reports about treating WG's with respect, I find myself reading and nodding my head in full agreement. I think the nature of this site probably lends itself to decent professional mongers who do realise the huge benefits in treating girls with dignity, after all, they are just doing a job and even when they are sometimes being a pain in the ass they are just trying to make a living and are not as lucky as the vast majority of participants to this site in terms of education and having the opportunities that we all have. I've been mongering world wide for something like 20 years now and met more really genuine girls than some of the shit I have to put up with at work!

Re making changes for Ramadan, I noted Rattler had a board up last night telling the girls short skirts and revealing tops wouldn't be allowed from now on so I think there is a general clamp down happening across the city at the moment. A couple of PRC I know there were asking me to explain the sign to them then I got involved in the sending text messages for them. If Mr Nameless who was excited when offered cream with his strawberries last night that was me :-) sorry but your gf is v cute and she was keen to see you!

I've been to AMP a couple of time in the last week and its still 200AED for an hour. Usually, the girl asks for 100 up front for the house then the other hundred once insed or after the deed is done. Quite often they ask for an additional tip. I tend to find these girls usually very good (although did have one terrible experience) and do just about anything with a smile, I never have too much problem slipping them an extra 50.

Went to Rattler last night for a couple of hours, lots of PRC with some A listers but very few Africans and a few CIS later on, again I don't know if there is a purge or they just aren't getting the business. I left around 11 so don't know if the scene changed after that. I met a PRC stunner that I've helped out a couple of times with texts and st her up with a punter recently so she came back for an overnight for "cheap". She speaks very good English and was keen to give full GFE but was only around a 6 or 7 in bed so good marks for enthusiasm but won't repeat the experience. Her mate looked v cute though (Mr Strawberry Tarts gf) so I may give her a go sometime. Again it was early on but there was a good atmosphere in Rattler last night, maybe the industrial town crew have found somewhere else to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off.

Off to Oman tomorrow follwed by a few days in Riyadh (lucky me) so debating at the moment whether to go out tonight, can't be arsed really but it will be at least a week before I get back to the front line so should maybe make the effort. May bump into some of you later.

Monger on.

[QUOTE=Kokkos2]

To the senior members: Is 400 too steep at an AMP? Everything (like discovery channel) on the menu included. If so, what are the going rates?
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Do you mean including the 100 for the room?

Either way sounds a little high. I think it's pretty easy to get even an attractive girl for 100 Room 200 Girl. If you are really cheap you may get 100+100.

I think this is the key to the negotiation.

Check out the line up and pick your girl.

The other girls leave and you are left in the room alone with your "choice". She will now ask for 100 for the room. Before you even give her the room money do all your negotiating. I usually say "I don't want a massage, I just want to have sex for a hour. I want a BBBJ and Fucking for the whole hour. I'll give you an extra 200."

If she says 300 laugh and say I'm not a tourist, 200 is all. Now you still have the 100 for the room. If she still tries to go higher at this point smile politely, say sorry I'm not a rich man (You don't want to kill the mood) and head for the door...300 total is fair for an hour, everyone at the massage parlor will know you are walking out, she will cave in.

I'm not trying to be cold but I believe 300 is fair for the hour and this is how you will make sure you get it.

Of course everything expected on the menu is discussed before you give the first 100 for the room.

I need some help from the brother's who have cracked the Ratsky's code.

I spent the better part of 2 hours there Friday night...11PM to 1AM.

I worked the area to the right just before the pool tables as well as the area along the wall just after you come in the door.

Clearly there were a number of girls "working", but they weren't making it easy to take them home. I smiled, I stared, I raised my eyebrows. I could barely get a glance. I have no problem in normal WG venues getting clawed but here I didn't have a clue.

I don't know, Ratsky's seemed like a lot of work, and oh, one other detail, only 2-3 of the girls who seemed to be working seemed worth picking up...maybe that was my real problem.

After 2 hours and even asking a couple girls who said no, I headed to York and walked out in 10 minutes with a cute PRC who was the "hurry up, finish" type in the bedroom. 500 DHM all night including a short round the next morning. She was in a big hurry but she was very, very cute.

Maybe I'm just out of practice.

I haven't been posting because the Ex Cyclone, now Hyatt PRC who "wanted to be my girlfriend" became my girlfriend. 3-4 nights or early evenings before she went to work a week of free sex, so enthusiastic there was no reason to go on the prowl and blow a good thing.

Now she's back in China for 2 months so I am hunting again and will try to pick up the slack on reports.

[QUOTE=Krypto Knight]I need some help from the brother's who have cracked the Ratsky's code.

I spent the better part of 2 hours there Friday night...11PM to 1AM.

I worked the area to the right just before the pool tables as well as the area along the wall just after you come in the door.

Clearly there were a number of girls "working", but they weren't making it easy to take them home. I smiled, I stared, I raised my eyebrows. I could barely get a glance. I have no problem in normal WG venues getting clawed but here I didn't have a clue...

[/QUOTE]Krypto - must be the luck of the night. I was in Ratskys briefly last night after midnight to meet WR's very bisexual Alice and her girlfriend. I decided not to take her last night, but had a walk around while I was there, and there would've been no problem taking one or two of around 20 Filipina girls. In fact there were hardly any guys. It was a good selection, but I had Miss Siberia in mind, so after a drink, I moved on to Rattlesnake.

To answer your question, I guess if the nonverbal messages don't work, you have to switch to verbal. ie actualy go and talk to one of the girls, suss out her attitude, if she is working etc. After chatting a while, if it seems there's a chance, cut to the chase, put on a smile and say something like "You know, I'd really like you to come home with me tonight", and see how you go. I'd say almost all of the girls in Ratsky sitting alone or in pairs are there for some extra cash.
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While I was talking to Alice at Ratsky, Miss Dreamy-Eyes came and boldly interrupted us, smiling alluringly, carressing me and asking if I remembered her. Of course I remembered her. She was one of two girls I had a threesome with upstairs in the hotel room some weeks ago. The eyes always get me. ;)

I hit the Seaview for the first time in about six week and stayed for the bands first set.

[b]The Same.[/b]
[list][*]Band is as good as ever.[*]Mr “Premature Lyrics” AKA “The drunk old British guy in the white shirt" was still making an ass of himself – note this [b]not[/b] the guy who sings “House of the Rising Sun”. This guy is always three or four bars ahead of the band. In no particular key and has the annoying habit of shouting “ladies and gentlemen, Mr Mark Knopfler”.
Sir if you are reading this, Cut it out, its getting old! The look on one of the singer’s faces as she was watching some of his antics was priceless however.[*]Happy hour beers still 17 AED[/list][b]The Different [/b]
[list][*]10:00 only 5 WG, all PRCs [*]10:30 maybe eight or nine PRC’s, All long time Seaview girls and the African with rather impressive thighs who always sits by the bar on the way in. Good to see she wasn’t banned; she is something of a Seaview institution.[*]11:00 About 4 CIS join the throng.[/list]Restricting the PRCs and Africans means that pickings are sparse and limited to well known faces, at least in the early part of the evening. There was nothing to suggest that CIS or PI girls were taking advantage of the reduce competition, but as both groups tend to arrive late, things may have improved later.

As part of a five-club tour last night, I was in York for a while. Nice selection of Africans, and some more CIS than usual. Many PRC as usual, including a super-cute little PRC named Cindy. In the darkness, I thought she may have been the cute Miss Hong Kong from Rattlesnake that I took home a couple of times recently, as she had the same Cleopatra style haircut (long straight-cut fringe down to her eyes). Talked to her for a minute. Very cute, and looking lonely and vulnerable as she stood alone in an open space.

After a drink, I went to the men's room. Anyone who's been to York knows how grungy the toilets are. They really need a good clean. Add to this a new decoration last night - a used condom stuck on the wall inside a cubicle. What was it doing there? Your guess is as good as mine. I don't know how a guy could sneak a girl in there.
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PS - the internet bar on ground floor of York Hotel was full of about 25 African and PRC girls - some were not too bad looking. They were agressive in their marketing as I my checked emails, but they each left politely when I said I was busy.

From photo thread.
[QUOTE=Lazzaro]Piper1:
A myth....
an hero
an example....
a life to follow.....[/QUOTE]I cringe. As 11Bravo said, my life is an example of how not to live (or something like that). I understood the reference 11B, and I chuckled in agreement. I'm just a regular guy enjoying a few laughs and fun sex with beautiful and interesting women from around the world while I can, as many men do. Sure beats golf as a hobby. ;)

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Regarding comments on this thread about getting GFE from the girls - it's simple: just be BFE with them. Never fails (except the occasional drunk CIS girl). I've only had three bad experiences in my six years and many women in Dubai and other cities around the world). I enjoy this short life on earth.
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Now if I can just work out how to use bluetooth on my new laptop, I'll post a few street scenes from my phone-camera. Can anyone tell me how to switch on bluetooth on an ACER Aspire laptop? There's no bluetooth button like on my previous laptop. (BTW, never buy an ACER Aspire - very clunky keyboard that needs to be pressed hard when typing).

[QUOTE=Piper1]From photo thread.
Sure beats golf as a hobby. ;)[/QUOTE]

[color=purple]Golf? what's wrong with golf? I try to make time for 2 or 3 holes every night. Always good to get in 3 holes when you can. You were taking about golf, right?

RaZZoR[/color]

[QUOTE=Member #1071]I visited the Club Thursday night and yesterday, I confirm the presence of CIS WGs mainly, couple of africans, no PRC's.
probably around 50 WG's each time. Couple of CIS stunners, others are average. Two pretty Africans for those who fancy colored ladies.
[/QUOTE]Good info, thanks. Looks like my pal was mistaken when he said LE had cleaned out the WGs. Not sure why he was mistaken, as he knows the Dubai scene intimately.

Hiya Piper

Had a couple of Acers, found them cheap but ok but can't beat the keyboard on my Thinkpad.

Seem to recall Acers did have a manual switches for Wifi and bluetooth - clear buttons that glow orange wifi and blue bluetooth when activated. Problem is with some Acers they have the bluetooth button but it doesn't work if the bluetooth module isn't fitted in that option. model numbers are similar and confusing with subtle differences.

If no dedicated button (some are top edge below screen to launch browser or other functions), could be shared on one of the function buttons. Other than that has to be in software, activated from something in the start menu.

Nerdy reply...last night hands full, no FR, only a PRC friend stayed again, tonight at home typing nerdy answers...you're right, life is short and there's a night wasted!

PS. Just seen Miss Siberia, even from the pics she looks classy and educated...something about her shows in the pics over and above many we see - or perhaps I'm just missing company tonight. Nice bod.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Good info, thanks. Looks like my pal was mistaken when he said LE had cleaned out the WGs. Not sure why he was mistaken, as he knows the Dubai scene intimately.[/QUOTE]

Now that family is back from summer holidays, the club scene is going to be missed dearly....
Even my regular is only available 10pm and onwards, so got to have a really good excuse when I am meeting her.
Major activity shall revolve around MP's, although I have a new contact for a CIS house which I did not visit yet.

Piper1, any hints as to where I could meet miss nice eyes? is it only at night in Ratsky?

[QUOTE=Piper1]I was in Ratskys briefly last night after midnight to meet WR's very bisexual Alice and her girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I found her and her girlfriend first!! Don't give WR all the credit.

I agree with your comment about talking to the girls in Ratsky. That was how I met Alice. Show some interest and even if she is not travelling that evening just ask for a phone number.

[QUOTE=Member #1071]I could meet miss nice eyes? is it only at night in Ratsky?[/QUOTE]Will be in Dubai again from Sept 6 to 14, and want to visit Ratskys to watch the Phillipina scene.

Could you please give a short explanation where I can find Ratskys.

(No success with Google)

Thanks,

Hunter

[quote=Member #1071]Had a good time paid 1000 AED each for a full night, around 6 am everybody went home.... [/quote]That certainly does fit the definition of "ALL night" - leaving at [u]sunrise[/u] :) (unfortunately, I KNOW what 6am looks like EVERY work day).

[quote=Crime Of Passion]Spent many hours teaching English and using those electronic dictionaries which agreed 11B, are truly marvellous - especially as sentence structure in Chinese is different. Only seem to be able to buy them in China.[/quote]I keep forgetting to buy one from one of the departing girls. The ones I like allow inputting the chinese character/word with a stylus rather than the ones where she has to scroll through the characters (words). Quite handy.

[quote=Crime Of Passion]Some girls literally only knew 4 or 5 words. Some were very nice but naive of the scene they were entering and even sex. ... and sex really was lying there and thinking of China ... Some girls never 'made it' and have gone home but a few are still here now...[/quote]One of the Cyclone SuperStars once told me that when she 1st came here, the only words she knew were "I love you". I remembered that she had been rather curt when I first met her. In fact, because of her "You take me, yes or no?", pause 20 seconds, then move on, I had declined. Serious error on [b]MY[/b] part; year later, when I asked her about it, she explained that all she could understand was a yes/no response; any attempt at conversation would be lost. One of my major regrets; even with the shell, she was great. Without it... talk about disappearing into fantasyland...

Always makes me smile when I get the embarrassed look, the "too much water" comment from her, as she's surprised at her body's [u]natural[/u] lubricant. Likewise have to smile at the punter's whinings: "she got out her artificial lube, prepared herself, then after 20 minutes, kept urging me to finish..." Guess you can only think of China [Russia, -stani-ville, wherever] for so long... then it gets boring unless she really is into it.

Yes, some just can't "adapt" to the life. Others misled (just heard of a 47!! year old arriving, then crying as the money wasn't easy to make like she'd been told, and she was now deeper in debt, getting deeper by the day). And with a few, I wonder how they survive; I would have bet anything that they wouldn't make it, but, years later, still around (just saw 1 at Jockeys this weekend - TGIT regular - [b]JSF[/b], I swear it was JoJo). A number still around; go home for a long holiday, then come back. As someone said, when you can make a month's salary with a couple of nights' work... I just wonder what the continuous upward pressures of rent, visa law changes, LE busts of accomodations, neighbor complaints, combined with the shrinking number of places they can call an office, will have. And you have the "success" stories: retired from the life, having saved enough that they are now legit back home, found a husband, etc.

[quote=Crime Of Passion]... never seeing their home...[/quote]Most are spartan by "our" standards; I'm always impressed how they do make an effort to make them a home (the non-barracks ones). The "stars" will have their own bedroom, or maybe share a bedroom with one or two other girls. Some will even have their own place (studio). Always clean and tidy. One of my other regrets is when I got invited into a barracks style accomodation (taking her to the airport), and I didn't have a camera. Incredible, and something I will NEVER forget (not QUITE tiger cages...)

[quote=Crime Of Passion]Makes me laugh when people want the GFE though! Some don't know half all the headaches I (we?) have.[/quote]I hear you there - agree completely. I call it the [u]pseudo[/u]-GFE experience: where she thinks all my jokes are funny, handles all my wants and desires, she never has a headache or is otherwise too tired to cater to me, and I don't HAVE to be concerned about how her day went unless I want to be.

[quote=Crime Of Passion]Chinese girls in my experience are generally very protective of their man, very jealous and concerned where they are and what they may be doing, which business girls are looking at them...can't tell you how many arguments this causes.[/quote]Again agree, the PRC Miss Thursdays/Fridays always concerned about my welfare. "Jealous and concerned where they are" especially true of any now-in-a-genuine-relationship wg: she knows how you (the general you) met, that you are/were a player, so always very aware of the possibility of being usurped.

[quote=Crime Of Passion]Re the 'average' customer. Well for most girls it's just a job and money. Despite what some people may think the girls are mainly looking for easy money in the shortest time or good money over a longer period.[/quote]Think that describes any expate here. :)

[quote=Crime Of Passion]They are cautious of drunk, unpredictable, strong people that could hurt them or get angry because they can't get it up or because they are too rough with them. ... I have always extended many courtesies, appreciated them, paid them, made it hopefully a reasonable experience but it is clear this isn't always the case with some customers and they get treated like *****s. ... but clearly the girls in the bedroom had a shell, expected a certain level of treatment i.e. get f*cked with few niceities and go.[/quote]My point exactly: If just being "common decency" nice is so appreciated (and it is), then what must she put up with that makes it so unusual, rather than standard?

My personal [u]observations[/u]: pulling a girl from the lower class venues (say Imperial) as compared to Cylcone - the Imperial girl would have many more bruises than the Cyclone one, literally "fingerprints" on thighs, upper arms, lower legs, ass... Stories of not getting paid, being ripped off, coming back to a room of waiting "friends" - who's she going to complain to?

Making her feel relaxed, safe, a bit of foreplay ... who doesn't appreciate a pleasant work environment?

[QUOTE=Krypto Knight]I need some help from the brother's who have cracked the Ratsky's code.

I smiled, I stared, I raised my eyebrows. I could barely get a glance. I have no problem in normal WG venues getting clawed but here I didn't have a clue.

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KK

As Piper said yopu need to 'market' yourself. Many are shy and need to be approached and asked and make a joke. Act BFE and it is will work. Not just Ratsky but many Filipinas. Even in Manila where I am now the non WGs need 'encouragement' nice words etc.