German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

Lots of milage with some guys here. LOL. I've not had so much milage with girls, but I recall some girls I repeated quite a bit when first attending FKK. I think it's highly likely to happen with those that are new to the FKK scene, and runs into a girl that can put on a good illusion. And then after attending for awhile, I realized that you can run into these types of girls more often. I can't imagine falling in love with an FKK girl as she is getting paid for her services, and she will be servicing many men. There are those that I feel more attracted to in terms of looks and services, but really nothing beyond that for me. But yeah, it's some of the illusion that girls will put on is pretty extraordinary, and with so many different men.

One question, what is meant when guys say a girl is smart? I read posts with guys talking about a girl is smart. Don't fully understand what is meant by that.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1685011]Didn't realize you invested that many Euros into her. LOL.....HB.[/QUOTE]Not sure if it is an investment but yes, the euros mount up and that particular woman is high maintainance LOL

Banana Boi - better than being married to her LOL

PussyL.. Smart for me means either she is simply intelligent, OR she is very good at manipulating clients AND/OR satisfying, intentionally or not, clients with whatever physical or emotional need they have

It has been a while since I left Germany.

I cannot get FKK clubs out of my head!

Recently, when I go to the normal nightclubs or bars, I start to hit on women whom I do not know at all randomly, and ask them whether they are interested in dancing with me or having a chat with me, then got turned down almost every time.

I realize that it was the FKK clubs experience that make me mistake the reality as my illusion.

From the day I left Germany, it has been almost 6 months.

But, I still take every normal nightclubs or bars scenes as FKK clubs!

I cannot help but hit on women whom I want to have sex with randomly in those places.

Luckily, my brain is still able to work reasonably.

I never ask 'Hey, let's have sex together' or 'Hey, let's go to the room' directly.

I always invite them to have a dance with me or have a drink & chat together.

In real life, women will mostly never accept a stranger's invitation to dance or have a drink & chat.

Just now, I came back from a nightclub, with an entire night being alone by myself. I was so depressed and sad.

I invited about 10 women in total, but none of them were interested in me, and therefore turned my offer down.

Guys, should I get some help from the medicine field or something?

I start to feel that I am a worthless man outside of those P4P places.

Of course, I can also choose to arrange more sex vacations in Germany or other countries to build up my confidence and happiness again.

However, I think, that's not the real solution to my problem.

Can any seasoned veterans give me some directions?

Thank you, bros!

Remember the FKK girls are there only for money, and for them and you it is a bonus if you like each other. Maybe don't think of girls outside FKK as being available, but just remember that some girls in FKK like you and that also some non working ones will also. Maybe don't try to hit on them but instead just be friendly and nice to all women. FKK is a special environment. You give your own answer when you say you think of bars as FKK. Maybe if you don't you will do better. Works for me. Good luck.

You're kidding us, right? WG are available because it's their job and you pay them. Not because you're Brad Pitt and they get all wet when talking to you.

If you can't differentiate between real life and the illusion clubs provide. Stop going and get help.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1685565]You're kidding us, right? WG are available because it's their job and you pay them. Not because you're Brad Pitt and they get all wet when talking to you.

If you can't differentiate between real life and the illusion clubs provide. Stop going and get help.

HB.[/QUOTE]I know your comments were to Solo, but it made me think: there are no illusions in clubs, just people doing their jobs. The trouble comes when illusions make it seem more. And of course the very rare occasion when it is real is another matter completely...

[QUOTE=Optimist;1685576]I know your comments were to Solo, but it made me think: there are no illusions in clubs, just people doing their jobs. The trouble comes when illusions make it seem more. And of course the very rare occasion when it is real is another matter completely...[/QUOTE]That's a question of definition. Selling illusions, is part of the job, some girls are quite excellent at it and so there are illusions in the club.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1685565]You're kidding us, right? WG are available because it's their job and you pay them. Not because you're Brad Pitt and they get all wet when talking to you.

If you can't differentiate between real life and the illusion clubs provide. Stop going and get help.

HB.[/QUOTE]There is a third option, isn't there: You could tip every girl 50 e (wow!! Just for doing their job!) at the end of every session, just like some idiot did at Oase recently.

What is worse, is that as a fairly regular visitor, I get the urge to tip "normally performing" girls, when the standard of the rest is sub par. Usually I resist the urge, but last time in Oase I gave erica / Carla / Cindy a bit extra for making my day after three less than thrilling sessions. Although in this case she did earn it by not being silly about a few extra minutes (after coming, I had actually already planned to fill the hour with other stuff when she said we could extend if I wanted to, but rounding off to half an hour would be fine as well).

It's all about how much you tip in relation to the duration of the session.

HB.

Solo, do you think any of these FKK girls would talk to you if you saw them in a disco in Romania? The answer is a clear no.

My rule of thumb is unless there is absolutely NO MONEY expectation from the FKK girl (other than you paying for dinner, etc.) and you see her outside the club on HER OWN time, she only cares about your money. Even if she is seeing you for free, proceed with extreme caution.

An interesting discussion about FKK vs Outside. It must sometimes happen that girls who say, work in Frankfurt FKKs go clubbing at night in Frankfurt too and if you are a FKK regular and go to the same nightclubs that at some point you might bump into each other. I wonder if they would ignore you or not. I guess it would depend on the person. For example, I know some guys are much younger than the average at FKKs so it might be that the girls might recognize you and you might get lucky. Or they could ignore you.

It would be an interesting situation methinks.

I once bumped into an escort I had been with a week or so earlier in the city center and though she didn't say anything she gave me a knowing smile and a wink as she walked passed me.

I remember discussing nightclubs with one particular FKK girl and it transpired we both went to the same club! I remember when I was at that club a few weeks afterwards scanning around to see if she was there! (She never was of course!

FKKs, SoloTraveller, are a fantasy world and it is very easy to get addicted to them and I am sure they've been responsible for fucking up a lot of peoples relationships / marriages. Think about it. Why would a man who is 50 sleep with a 50 year old wife / GF when he can sleep with as many 20 year old as he likes? But the reality is that unless you are super-rich or super-attractive or famous, 50 year old generally don't get to date 20 year old in the real world. I would bet most regular FKKers have messed up real life when it comes to relationships. For a start, how many wive's or GFs will even do half the stuff the FKK girls do for us? So yes our expectations are seriously warped by FKK.

So, yes, they are addictive and it is vital to get distance between your real life and your life inside the FKK. If you can't, you could try to find a job in Germany or Austria or Switzerland! Then you could go all the time like some lucky fellows on here. Think of it like this next time you watch something like America's Next Top Model (or the UK or German equivalent). Now imagine all those young girls 18 -early 20's on the catwalk completely naked and you able to fuck any of them you like -- that fantasy for so many men around the world is the reality that we who visit FKKs experience. Is it a wonder real life doesn't live up to that? Just think of it as a drug. You don't want to overdose! And don't do drugs in your real life.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1685397]It has been a while since I left Germany.

In real life, women will mostly never accept a stranger's invitation to dance or have a drink & chat.

Just now, I came back from a nightclub, with an entire night being alone by myself. I was so depressed and sad.

I invited about 10 women in total, but none of them were interested in me, and therefore turned my offer down.

Guys, should I get some help from the medicine field or something?

I start to feel that I am a worthless man outside of those P4P places.
[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear this mate.

My problem is opposite. I've been to FKK too much and I am not excited much to forthcoming visit, nor girls in real life. I missed my excitement feeling when I first started FKK.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1685397]
Recently, when I go to the normal nightclubs or bars, I start to hit on women whom I do not know at all randomly, and ask them whether they are interested in dancing with me or having a chat with me, then got turned down almost every time.

In real life, women will mostly never accept a stranger's invitation to dance or have a drink & chat.

[/QUOTE]Not completely true. But depends who you are and who are you trying to catch. In real life, in my country, a man, stranger or not, will get tons of free pussy from young girls from the bars and clubs if he is decent looking and 18-40 years old. After that window of age has been passed the young honeys are not available anymore, at least not so easily. Unfortunately these golden, almost platinum, years of free young finnish pussy are gone for me. I don't even bother to go to the clubs for young and beautiful anymore. Just gets me pissed off when I see the loath on their faces when I try to smile and flirt. On some very rare occasion I still manage to pull a 25-30 year old bird from the night caves for a rumpy bumpy at my place or hers.

I did the cardinal mistake of going into normal clubs and discos right after an FKK fuck fiesta trip thinking that hey, I can have these babes all, LOL. But the truth hit me pretty quikly on the face, and painfully.

If you start to feel you are worthless man outside of P4 P world then your game is over. Don't go that far.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1685397]It has been a while since I left Germany.

I cannot get FKK clubs out of my head!

Recently, when I go to the normal nightclubs or bars, I start to hit on women whom I do not know at all randomly, and ask them whether they are interested in dancing with me or having a chat with me, then got turned down almost every time.

I realize that it was the FKK clubs experience that make me mistake the reality as my illusion.

From the day I left Germany, it has been almost 6 months.

But, I still take every normal nightclubs or bars scenes as FKK clubs!

I cannot help but hit on women whom I want to have sex with randomly in those places.

Luckily, my brain is still able to work reasonably.

I never ask 'Hey, let's have sex together' or 'Hey, let's go to the room'

Just now, I came back from a nightclub, with an entire night being alone by myself. I was so depressed and sad.

I invited about 10 women in total, but none of them were interested in me, and therefore turned my offer down.

Guys, should I get some help from the medicine field or something?

I start to feel that I am a worthless man outside of those P4P

However, I think, that's not the real solution to my problem.

Can any seasoned veterans give me some directions?

Thank you, bros![/QUOTE]I am not sure that I am the right person to answer it but since I have the same problems I can say smt beneficial to you.

The first thing that i will tell you is it is not so easy to pick up a girl from a night club or bar...

Because you have to convince and impress her in a very short time interval...In every country.... Believe me...I have been in many of them..

Try to be in a friends group. This is easier to cathc someone than in the night clubs because there will be some people that tells the girl how good guy you are also she wil be sure that you wouldn't cut her into pieces because you are a known person when you get home.

Join some activity or hobby groups. Dance classes are perfect for flirting because also girls will come there for being hunted.

Travel to a country which is freebie activities are easy.

For years I try to figure out which city and which country is best for that but this forum is mostly dedicated for paid sex I usually got some "shut up" change the issue or other be. S.

So I had to learn by myself but of course this is completely personal and depends on your looks and abilities.

I am turksh and have a schwarzkopf look and I can only speak english.

Thailand was the best resulted but the girls there not my favourite taste so I usually moved to. FSU. (also it is closer to me).

Moscow is my second best. I had scored there once and it is a crazy city.

Odessa was great this year I got the most beautiful girl that I can get from a bar through years if I had time I would definitely score second time. War helped me a lot (Less competition.).

Hope I can help.

Regards.