Ciudad Juarez

[QUOTE=Cienega32]Reading about the river and hope you and yours are all safe & out of any danger down there![/QUOTE]

3 out of 4 bridges are closed, water is not supposed to crest until tomorrow night. And there is a storm brewing in the gulf, again.

[QUOTE=Bbond]My experience, YMMV, is that when you negotiate the price down, you are also negotiating the service level down, unless you are good at negotiating the tip.
Pay what is asked, negotiate down, and you come across as, IMHO, a cheap skate.
Make them glad to see you, not dread the fact that a cheapo has arrived. It pays dividends.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this can happen, that they may reduce the quality of service. At El Encanto, I still got good service. After getting with 2 babes at El Encanto, the 3rd girl working there wanted to get with me, even though I had negotiated the price down from $40, to $30. Business is slow at these MP's, and they need the business. El Encanto had no customers, and I think they were glad I showed up. If they give lousy service, because of a lower price, ($30), I just go do business with their competition. Paying the full $40, is no guarantee they will give good service. There is a risk either way.

I might go $35, at Sirenas, because they have very nice massage rooms. If they stick with $40, I'll just go to El Encanto, or the other MP's that charge $30.

I think there is a huge difference between trying to knock the price back down to where it should be then just paying for whatever the chica wants. If you overpay I can almost guarantee the service is going to suck because THAT chica knows she can get over on you and she is thinking why give good service to a guy who let's me over charge.

Don't get me wrong, if you want her and she charges you a premium it is your God given right to pay for it.

I have been to El Encanto several times and I have only paid $30. 00. I will not patronize a place that has gringo prices.

J Europe is correct. When I first started to go to the Luxxor, either tipped small or nothing at all and service and extras were fine, the more I tipped, the worst things became, in and out of the room, the chicks there seem to think they are doing you a favor, when the get a new one, they are ok, but soon get poluted by the others, as an example, made a deal with Stuart for 2 chicks the other night, this was after suppling booze for all of them, all was ok till I went to pay and Ms. Madame and her fat boyfriend fucked everything up. They seem to think they have the corner on pussy in Juarez, although, everytime I go, there are no clinets there. I have only been to Sirenas once, and to tell the truth, it was great, maybe because they don't know me. Had a great time at Luxxor in May with Valere, young 19, GFE, but as usual, she has left, run off by the Madame who is a combination of Martin Borman and Eva Braun! The only thing that keeps the Luxxor afloat is Stuart, he does his best to satisfy the customers.

Okie,

Hit Juarez late in the afternoon early evening taking the Pointe Del Sur bus down vicente guerrero to montes de Oca headed to genesis. The buss actually turns north by the baseball field headed towards 16 September and Los Arcos I thinks so you you have to get off first. Close enough. There was a baseball game goign on which sounded interesting and four extremely hot tecate girls outside greetings fans.

Genesis closed around 6:30pm Saturday afternoon? WTF? Walked up Montes de oca and caught the bus back to juarez ave headed to Cleopatra. Two girls working. Very short. Both cute but a little pudgy and I wasnt feeling it. By then it was 7:40 and they close at 8pm. I've been trown out of this place before. So had a cab driver take me down to el encanto (by then it was dusk and I didn't want to be walking the streets). He said there were some thin girls there nope. No one working or and a couple girls busy in the rooms. I didn't belive the guy and was ready to head over to my old standby Sirenas. Three girls working all cute. Id done Karen before and the other two girls were new.

I went with Jessica who indicated she had been working there for one month comming from Genesis. On my way back to the room I heard the madame tell her to charge me $60. I headed back to the front and she said the 400 pesos would be fine. I figured the $60 was for the cab driver but they caved very easily. I made sure everything was ok with the staff and madame before I got naked due to comments from mongers that these folks are thugs. So everything is ok whew. So those of you who have posted favorable reports about Genesis Jessica she's now at Sirenas and thank you very much. Good message and rubdown as always in nice peaceful message room with the mexican group Mana playing on the stereo. Great covered blowjob and a nice fuck. She's pretty and petite about 5'3" with balck hair nice eyes full lips slender. Out of there by 8:30 and back to the border to purchase my 12 pack of indio cerveza before heading accross the border. They have a line for US citizens so if you have a USA pasport you don't have to wait in the long line for residents.

I personnaly like the atmosphere of genesis and had a good experience at Felinas too (my favorite $30/300 pesos Mesajes) everyone agrees they are dumps. Sirenas charges 400 pesos and provides accomplished girls who give really good messages and do all the regular mesaje stuff. The rooms are very relaxing and the message tables are long wide and lower great for a big guy like me. So those of you who refuse to pay the $40 are missing out I think. You get a lot more for the increase from $23. 50/300 pesos to $31. 33/400 pesos (if you pay in pesos) at the current exchange rate. I'll still go to genesis and felinas but when you want the total experience $31. 33 is not much to pay. I really like the message part instead of going straight to business. Sirenas is the only place where all the girls I've been with actualy give you a passable message before the action. All due respect to coyote79 who has had some bad experiences at Sirenas. I have yet to have a bad time there.

And no I have yet to find a dooable girl at El Encanto so lets have someone stick their head in the door soon and maybe even post a report and I'll be the first to go try it out. Funny Genesis was closed but I still got to try one of the better rated Genesis girls now at Sirenas. I didn't check to see if El Herredero is still open. They are located off North Loop now and I just go there to get my steak.

I prefer to pay what is asked. And not negotiate down, but that is just me.
If I think or feel I am being taken advantage of I will, in a heart beat, abandon the place.

[QUOTE=Constellation] all was ok till I went to pay and Ms. Madame and her fat boyfriend fucked everything up. They seem to think they have the corner on pussy in Juarez, although, everytime I go, there are no clients there. Had a great time at Luxxor in May with Valere, young 19, GFE, but as usual, she has left, run off by the Madame who is a combination of Martin Borman and Eva Braun! The only thing that keeps the Luxxor afloat is Stuart, he does his best to satisfy the customers.[/QUOTE]
I've heard nothing but bad things about that Madame who runs Luxxor MP. Fuck her. There are plenty of MP's to go to, without having to put up with her shit. "Corner on pussy," my ass. Dream on.

Put a bad manager like this women, in a place like Luxxor, and she'll give all the girls working there a bad attitude. Who needs it.

X factor hit it right on, thought it was just me!

[QUOTE=Xfactors]I've heard nothing but bad things about that Madame who runs Luxxor MP. Fuck her. There are plenty of MP's to go to, without having to put up with her shit. "Corner on pussy," my ass. Dream on.

Put a bad manager like this women, in a place like Luxxor, and she'll give all the girls working there a bad attitude. Who needs it.[/QUOTE]
dam I've been waiting four years for vindication on Soriya!

[QUOTE=Coyote79]yeah dude that's too bad. I was planning a trip there after to see
Cartagenio's Allison b/c I would LUV to bang a hot little 19 yo, but now I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]
In search of Cartagenio's Allison, I hit Princesas on Friday, 16 July at about 3 pm.

Princesas is a 200 peso taxi ride from the free bridge (it’s even farther from the Sante Fe bridge). It’s location on De la Raza and Isaac Newton is a vibrant area with lively bars and an amusement park.

Princesas is run by a couple. The man speaks American English. He showed me three providers. I asked him if 350 pesos was okay, and he agreed. They didn’t give any to the provider.

I chose Evonne. She was 23 years-old, about 5’8”. She was very passionate and accommodating.

Princesas is clean, but there is no shower in the room.

After 30 minutes, the mamasan said something to Evonne over the room partition, and Evonne immediately turned around, took off my condom, and said we were done. Me & my blue balls walked out. (you don’t complain in J-town)

BTW while I was walking out Princesas has a sign by the front door indicating 400 pesos for an hour, and 250 pesos for a half hour. They’re open 11-6 M-S.

After my debacle at Princesas, I hit Venus at 6 pm hoping for a change in luck.

Venus had ONE girl working! 6 pm on a Friday night and only ONE girl is working!

So I choose Paola. She was about 5’9, 140 lbs, 23 years-old with a nice “C” cup. She looked good except for a black mole on her lip.

She was wet but she complains about everything. After about 20 minutes of going at it I got tired of her complaints so I hoped in the shower. I never saw her again. No ladies were working when I left.

YMMV

My friends and I stopped going to Luxxor three years ago. I had a problem with the service from one of the girls. When I mentioned it to Soriya she went ballistic. I guess she must of had a bad day. Instead of trying to resolve the problem she complained about how the gringos are so well treated at her joint and that all of the girls are princesses and there is no way that any of them could provide lousy service. She tried to make us feel as if she was doing us a favor by being in business in the first place. Well, she did lose alot of business because now none of us go there. Nor do we recommend Loxxor to anyone. This place is black listed as far as we are concerned. Pity, Stuart was not around since he always makes sure that all is perfect.

Soriya kept saying that she was the owner and Stuart's assistance would be of no value. I am not surprised that someone else has had a problem at Luxxor. It was bound to happen with this lousy madam in charge. My pals and I go to J-town for a good time. Not to have problems with the girls and especially with this ***** of a madam.

Joe Vato

[QUOTE=Palamides]I personnaly like the atmosphere of genesis and had a good experience at Felinas too (my favorite $30/300 pesos Mesajes) everyone agrees they are dumps. [/QUOTE]
Just a note to the other guys here. Siluetas, ($30) is only one block away from Felinas, and Siluetas has nicer massage rooms than either Felinas or Genesis.

From the reports I'm reading here, I'm crossing Princesas off my rotation list. I can tell that the couple that runs Princesas, don't know how to run a business. Their philosophy is, "fuck over the customer." They won't see me at their place. Fuck them.

Heynowwassup was not impressed with the service he received there, and neither was Coyote79

And thanks go out to Heynowwassup, Palamides, and Coyote79 for their fine trip reports. These trip reports from the members here are very helpful. It's almost like you're there, going through the experience yourself.

[QUOTE=Coyote79]In search of Cartagenio's Allison, I hit Princesas on Friday, 16 July at about 3 pm.

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I meant Friday, July 9. July 16 would be difficult unless I was Michael J Fox in "Back to the Future"

[QUOTE=Xfactors]Just a note to the other guys here. Siluetas, ($30) is only one block away from Felinas, and Siluetas has nicer massage rooms than either Felinas or Genesis.

From the reports I'm reading here, I'm crossing Princesas off my rotation list. I can tell that the couple that runs Princesas, don't know how to run a business. Their philosophy is, "fuck over the customer." They won't see me at their place. Fuck them.

Heynowwassup was not impressed with the service he received there, and neither was Coyote79

And thanks go out to Heynowwassup, Palamides, and Coyote79 for their fine trip reports. These trip reports from the members here are very helpful. It's almost like you're there, going through the experience yourself.[/QUOTE]

I reccomend you to form your own opinion and try Princesas out, some fellas here have had great times here (myself included).

On a related note... tried out Sarahí "VIP" last saturday. The prices are great, they have a promotion: 2 chicas for 300 pesos for 20 minutes, or 400 pesos for 40 minutes, something like that. Went with one chica half hour for 200 pesos. her name was kenya, very petite morenita, grat tits, unbelievable firm ass, very nice soft skin, but kinda ugly.

Very passionate, GFE, very accomodating.

This place has worst rooms than genesis, but if you don't mind that you can save some money, and the lineup was great!, all the girls I saw were very doable, about six of them.