Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=DrInTheDesert;1854001] ...
5,900 B is not cheap, but for 90 minutes in a classy environment with a top-quality lady. Hell, yes. Poseidon is also good. Caesar's is dated and overpriced.

- As for night clubs, I've had recent success at Mixx. I met a smoking hot Colombian last week. I wasn't even necessarily looking for a date. I just wanted to have a drink and a smoke with some good music and eye candy. Then this chick asks if she can have a cigarette, which I happily oblige. Once I learn she's Colombian, I speak a little Spanish to her. Which she loved, BTW. We met around 2:30 am. Stayed and danced until 5:00 am, then headed back to my hotel. Both of us were kind of tired, so she cuddled up to me and fell asleep. We woke up around noon, she made us coffee, and we chatted in Spanish for five hours. No joke. She starts kissing me and you can figure out the rest. Stupid me. I forgot to ask her how much before we left the club. Amateur mistake. Anyhow, she was flexible and she did stay with me over 24 hrs. I ended up giving her 15,000 B. I'm sure there are some of you reading that and ready to keel over. I know I overpaid (tell me how much? But to be frank - $430 for a 24 HR jaunt is not bad at all.

Anyhow, that's all for now. Thanks in advance for any advice.[/QUOTE]You can get a girl at a soapie for 2500. Don't know why you spent 5900 for 90 minutes in Thailand. That's fucking double the price.

Then you grab a girl and take her with you after 5 am. And you end up giving her 30,000.

For me, the most I have even given a girl in Bangkok in 2000 for ALL night. That's sex at night and sex in the morning. And I had the same girl come back that day. So we fucked 4 x for 4,000 baht! This is Thailand! SEA.

If anyone would bother reading the fucking forum they would know the going rates.

I submit that over paying does very little to zero harm to the mongers that follow the over payer. I assure you the girl who hit the sucker jackpot and was handed 10,000 baht on Monday for what I would only pay 2,000 baht will be just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht on Tuesday as if she hadn't even seen 10,000 baht before.

The most disturbing thing about so many of these reports and the thing that I am convinced does tremendous and lasting harm to the market is that so many punters are handing out decent money, doesn't matter if it is 10,000 or as little as 1,000 baht, for ridiculously low levels of service. HJs? CBJ? No DFK? 10 times more sleeping than fucking? Punters who think they got a BJ but in reality any time you finish outside of the girl's mouth that can no longer be considered a BJ finish?

Seriously?

There is no way a girl can be "spoiled" in the sense of learning how to play the customer by hitting the sucker jackpot and getting 10,000+ baht for something she knows cannot possibly be worth more than 1,000 baht. Like the lottery where you either draw those lucky numbers or not and you can't count them coming in on a regular basis, that 10,000+ baht sucker either walks into the bar, into the soapy or up to her on the street or not.

But being handed that much or even as little as 1,000 baht while playing the customer into believing good Thai girls no longer allow DFK, stay very long with the customer, accept hot jets of cum shooting fully into their mouths and so on is a skill the girls CAN perfect if enough low demand customers continue to teach them how to perfect it.

And that unfortunate trend does affect the treatment and service level the next monger gets. Over paying, under paying or paying the exact going rate for laughably low levels of service is immaterial when the real damage being done comes from accepting that low level of service as "normal", not the amount some other dude paid for it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1854202]I submit that over paying does very little to zero harm to the mongers that follow the over payer. I assure you the girl who hit the sucker jackpot and was handed 10,000 baht on Monday for what I would only pay 2,000 baht will be just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht on Tuesday as if she hadn't even seen 10,000 baht before.

The most disturbing thing about so many of these reports and the thing that I am convinced does tremendous and lasting harm to the market is that so many punters are handing out decent money, doesn't matter if it is 10,000 or as little as 1,000 baht, for ridiculously low levels of service. HJs? CBJ? No DFK? 10 times more sleeping than fucking? Punters who think they got a BJ but in reality any time you finish outside of the girl's mouth that can no longer be considered a BJ finish?

Seriously?

There is no way a girl can be "spoiled" in the sense of learning how to play the customer by hitting the sucker jackpot and getting 10,000+ baht for something she knows cannot possibly be worth more than 1,000 baht. Like the lottery where you either draw those lucky numbers or not and you can't count them coming in on a regular basis, that 10,000+ baht sucker either walks into the bar, into the soapy or up to her on the street or not.

But being handed that much or even as little as 1,000 baht while playing the customer into believing good Thai girls no longer allow DFK, stay very long with the customer, accept hot jets of cum shooting fully into their mouths and so on is a skill the girls CAN perfect if enough low demand customers continue to teach them how to perfect it.

And that unfortunate trend does affect the treatment and service level the next monger gets. Over paying, under paying or paying the exact going rate for laughably low levels of service is immaterial when the real damage being done comes from accepting that low level of service as "normal", not the amount some other dude paid for it.[/QUOTE]Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.

Just to be clear: I overpaid for a Colombian, not for a Thai. And I never would. FWIW if the Russian ladies at Rajah are making 4-5 k for ST, I didn't overpay too badly. Bear in mind that these ladies undertake far more risk than the Thais do.

Anyway, rather than lament a poor choice I made, can someone help with my questions after the ceremonial stoning is done?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1854334]Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrInTheDesert;1854351]Anyway, rather than lament a poor choice I made, can someone help with my questions after the ceremonial stoning is done?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand[/URL]

SL.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1854334]Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.[/QUOTE]But then you are talking about a weird reaction in individuall girls to getting over paid once or twice. Given a few nights waiting in vain for another sucker jackpot to hit will generally cure or clear up that delusion.

I have been with too many girls happy to do a good job for me for the going rate that I am sure were over paid by 200-300% by other guys a few days earlier. The "damage" done to me had nothing to do with them demanding more money from me without budging due to the previous over payers. It was all about my now having to describe in almost excrutiating detail what a blowjob finish actually is (it is not finished outside the mouth, by hand. That is not a blowjob, honey. That is a handjob) as though they'd never heard of a woman doing that for a man from either their 2,000 custimers OR their 6,000 baht customers, or that LT starting near midnight does not end at 6 am and so on. The shocker is the wild over payer is apparently as willing to accept crap service from the girls as the deep discount negotiator.

Meanwhile, even you said you have plenty of options that have not followed hyper-inflation that some of their P4 P sisters have gotten. While I agree with you that a main reason for that was the starting point, but those girls are also part of the market and they don't seem to be affected by sucker jackpot fever. I am sure they have either heard or experienced the wild over payment incidents. I just don't see many girls misreading the occasional wild over payment as a sign that they are now even 4,000-5,000 baht girls instead of the 1,000-2,000 baht girls they know they could get tonight now that they need the money again.

Much bigger problem, IMO, is there are too many weak, low demand customers willing to pay them 2,000 baht or anything at all for crap levels of service, refusal to finish a BJ like a BJ and so on.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1854334]Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.[/QUOTE]I don't want to seem argumentative, but a loss of face is usually when others know. If she's come back to reality and accepted the going rate, don't see how this would become a loss of face. Perhaps being Asian is why I don't get it.

A couple of new tales to relate. Last report, I noted a girl who I referred to as the squirter. She also has not asked for money since our first encounter and turned down my cash offer on our first fandango.

So she comes over and once again blows a monster squirter after some heavy duty DATY by yours truly. Afterwards, she wants to go out and thinking it's to eat, I agree. But it's not to eat as 15 minutes later I find myself and her strolling the aisles of Big Country. The utter depravity of it all. Felt like I was in Target in USA with my suburban parked outside.

Racks up about $50 in food, drink, and cleaning items. I thought that I was buying things for her apartment. Fair enough but they are all for my apartment. When we return she makes me dinner in between washing my clothes and general clean-up. I told her not to wash as my apartment has this service but she ignores me.

After all this, I am informed she will be leaving for evening at 10:30 to make her appointed rounds, I suppose. She gets mad at me next day as I had to cancel a movie date. I suggest following evening but she ignores my text.

But hell has no fury as a woman scorned. The following early morning, I am awoken by my phone ringing. I decide not to answer but the phone continues to ring perhaps a dozen times. I look at the phone and now I see a photo of my front door lobby and another of the pool. I continue to ignore ringing; now it's up to 35 calls in a half hour. Finally, it stops but not before one more call at 5:30 am.

I send her a text following day. Don't call me at that hour; don't come to my apartment again, and finally good luck and have a nice life.

She writes back. OK, she says, and 'good luck'. End of story, I think.

[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1854751]I don't want to seem argumentative, but a loss of face is usually when others know. If she's come back to reality and accepted the going rate, don't see how this would become a loss of face. Perhaps being Asian is why I don't get it.[/QUOTE]And you think they don't tell the other gals what they get paid? Of course they do. Aside from being Thai, they are also female with all the cattiness, competitiveness, and snideness that goes along with it. Many would rather starve than except less than what they think they are "worth. ".

I am sure this has also happened to other punters but I thought that I should relay my most recent 'free' encounter.

Once again, I dropped into Bangkok Beat and immediately placed myself at a standing table near the entry. There were two Thai girls and a Thai guy also occupying the space and the Thai guy engaged me immediately and began to try to set me up with the girl directly next to me. As he confessed later, he is gay with a Dutch boyfriend, and the other girl was unemployed due to her beneficial financial relationship with a Norwegian guy. Those Norsemen are really raising the bar for all of us.

It turns out the girl next to me is visiting from Chiang Mai and it was her first time here at BB. She was clearly not free lancing as she owns a business and home in CA. It took a while but finally got around to some canoodling a few hours later whereupon I asked her to go with me. She would not as I suppose not that kind of girl but agreed to meet me on the following day and stay with me that night if all went well. Unfortunately, she did not speak English but intrigued I agreed anyway. So I walked her to her hotel and went home empty handed hoping my gambit paid off.

The next day we met and I bought her a bikini for our pool swim later. After a lunch, we returned to my apartment and it was game on. One interesting thing is she resisted DATY (though finally acquiesced) but gave me the best and most enthusiastic BBBJ and CIM (swallow too) since I have been in Thailand. Unlike most Thai P4 P, she really seemed to enjoy it. Most P4 P here I have discovered are not into it and especially avoid CIM.

So after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.

Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired

The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.

I wrote a report a few months ago about a P4 P girl who told me she was expensive and never went for less than 3 k baht and that was short term. I said too bad as I never paid more than 2 k baht. She then countered with 2500 *(it was 2:45 am). I stuck to my guns and she accepted my 2 k baht offer and stayed to mid afternoon.

She eventually slapped me at a club one night a month or so later when she saw me dancing with another girl. She did not like that I was even consorting with another girl in a place she went regularly. I guess for her it was a kind of losing face situation though the only time I left with her at the aforementioned club was when it was shutting down for the night. Very few girls even saw us leave.

Basically, she is a spoiled brat and spoiled in part by a Norwegian guy (another one) who, at least according to her, bought her a condo on Soi 22 and a car. And she still hustles on the side...

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1854801]And you think they don't tell the other gals what they get paid? Of course they do. Aside from being Thai, they are also female with all the cattiness, competitiveness, and snideness that goes along with it. Many would rather starve than except less than what they think they are "worth. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1854802]I am sure this has also happened to other punters but I thought that I should relay my most recent 'free' encounter.

Once again, I dropped into Bangkok Beat and immediately placed myself at a standing table near the entry. There were two Thai girls and a Thai guy also occupying the space and the Thai guy engaged me immediately and began to try to set me up with the girl directly next to me. As he confessed later, he is gay with a Dutch boyfriend, and the other girl was unemployed due to her beneficial financial relationship with a Norwegian guy. Those Norsemen are really raising the bar for all of us.

It turns out the girl next to me is visiting from Chiang Mai and it was her first time here at BB. She was clearly not free lancing as she owns a business and home in CA. It took a while but finally got around to some canoodling a few hours later whereupon I asked her to go with me. She would not as I suppose not that kind of girl but agreed to meet me on the following day and stay with me that night if all went well. Unfortunately, she did not speak English but intrigued I agreed anyway. So I walked her to her hotel and went home empty handed hoping my gambit paid off.

The next day we met and I bought her a bikini for our pool swim later. After a lunch, we returned to my apartment and it was game on. One interesting thing is she resisted DATY (though finally acquiesced) but gave me the best and most enthusiastic BBBJ and CIM (swallow too) since I have been in Thailand. Unlike most Thai P4 P, she really seemed to enjoy it. Most P4 P here I have discovered are not into it and especially avoid CIM.

So after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.

Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired

The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.[/QUOTE]I read your post several times, but I still don't understand your reaction. A cost of 2400 bt for several rounds of good sex and enjoyment with a nice girl seems fair. I would call it a good deal. I have gone with several girls that invite friends like this and I accept is as normal socializing. If I like the girl I am happy to spend 2-3000 bt for drinks and lunch, even I also pay the girl for her time. Her (and the friends) reaction seems perfectly normal, but you come across as a little stingy. Yes, you bought her a small gift, food etc. But I'm not sure the girls racked up the bill on purpose. My point is that in my experience girls behave like this all the time, so there was nothing special with this Chiang Mai girl.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1854802]ISo after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.

Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired

The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.[/QUOTE]It is cultural and comes with the territory. In a social situation they will order more food they can possibly eat even if it is with last baht in their pocket. They live for today and want to have good [I]face[/I] with their friends and family. And especially when it is OPM (other peoples money) the sky is the limit.

As the old saying goes: if you think something is expensive now, just wait until it's free!

SL.

Of course, I don't object to buying my new friend (lover) lunch. In fact, I bought her lunch the day before along with her gay friend who helped with translating and facilitated our initial meeting.

I do object to buying lunch for someone I have never met and likely will never see again. As I mentioned, I turned down this women's offer of 500 baht for her 'share' of the meal after her friend made a comment to her when the bill was presented. If I was stingy, I would have taken her cash. What I find peculiar was this women told me and my friend we should meet at McDonalds but changed her location after our conversation. It's really the principal of the matter.

However, I can understand why you might be generally agreeable to paying the bill for your friend and her gal pals but I did not like the particular circumstances of this meeting. It also may have been the other woman was giving me the third degree about my travel plans and other sundry matters etc. And I just took a dislike to her. She must have told me half dozen times I should visit my friend in CM putting me on the spot.

Needless to say, I volunteered to pay the bill and let the issue slide undetected. In fact, my principal concern now is what to do about the onslaught of texts I have received from Chiang Mai today; not to mention an invitation to visit. 'Don't you miss me' etc.

[QUOTE=TutLi;1855422]Hi,

Team.

I would appreciate some pointers for massage parlors near suvarnabhumi airport.

Actually pointing for a parlour near to airport as on a tight schedule going to Bombay.

I'm staying in rayong, tried to find places here bt things seems dry here not many options.

I'm going back to India on 25th. Have a evening flight and running tight on schedule so want a quickie.

Please suggest good massage parlors near airport.

Shall help out surely in India.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No MPs there. You have to travel bit and spend some of those rupees in the wallet on taxi.