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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2425447]Interesting, I find the reverse to be true, I speak a fair amount of Spanish and not a single word of Thai and feel way safer in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I'm curious. Did seeing your girl get robbed change your opinion on the safety of Medellin?
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2425521]I saw that, too! Very sweet spinner![/QUOTE]I'm still hitting her up when I get back.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2425549]I have not read about posters getting knock on the door in El Centro. You number is off or at least you can't generalize it that way. I think Premier is at least an hour. If you tip the receptionist, she will give you more hours. This is straight from the receptionist. Zona Rosa is for 3 hours. You can bring several back to Hotel Botero that costs nothing as long as they have ID or passport. AirBnB will work the same way for FB or El Centro girl so I don't think room cost can be factored into consideration like that.[/QUOTE]Now you're going to make the math difficult.
I was figuring for new guys letting the girl take them to her usual hotel. Outside of that it gets complicated. 5-10 minute walk to your Airbnb, maybe a taxi fee depending, a tip for the receptionist.
Frankly, very few guys are doing that on their first trip, unless one of the Centro vets takes them under his wing.
On a side note, something bad is about to happen. I can feel it. In the past 2 weeks both Surfer500 and Pollo Negro have agreed with me.
I'll probably get struck by a meteor or raped by a moose. Maybe it will be a cute moose.
Yeah, but you are a Centro rat (it takes one to know one). But seriously, you made the case for YMMV. I takes very little time to find complaints about underwhelming facebook experiences here, and the same is true about my primary provider corps of Plaza Botero Bunnies. In the end I think it boils down to managing the transaction. Guys who leave things to chance and aren't clear about expectations will be lucky enough from time to time to have decent sessions. Guys who set fair expectations and make reasonable deals will have good experiences more often than not. The casas are a middle ground where very little is left to chance. They are not a bad option for guys who don't want to bother with making their own way or stretching boundaries. I like them every so often to break up the routine and broaden my circle of provider acquaintances. It's all good but at my core I am a Centro rat.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2425450]I see it differently, for 300 K I get a minimum of four girls that provide stellar service versus one Fayboo or Tinder Chica.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2425531]For poster of the month![/QUOTE]Hahah thank you! Just trying to make the stories and experience intresting so others will contribute. It takes time to write them out but its fun. It's also good to break up the normal chatter on the board lately of bank fees and where to stay. Lets keep it about the pussy.
[QUOTE=Diglerni;2425285] cities I've been in the US, good and bad parts.
Maybe this will help with the advise. I'm all about visual stimulation first. I like being out in the "wild" as they say. I like to walk around and see what's out there. Like you mentioned, Thailand really spoils you for just V walking down a street and grabbing a girl for 1500-3000 baht and having a good time. I like strip clubs and freelancer bars. Being able to interact to see if I'm bringing home a dud. I know that much of this may require me to be out at night. So maybe the spot with the most gringos out at night would be best for me LOL.
It's funny, when I was young and in the Marines I never had fear, even after being shot at in Africa.
As always, thank you for your input. In just wish the Corona-V would go away and I can go back to my Asians LOL.[/QUOTE]I want to reiterate that no matter which part if Medellin you are in, it is best to to stay around well lit crowded areas, I say this because one poster reported not too long ago that he and his chica were walking down a not so crowded road and two guys pulled up on a motorcycle and demanded the chicas purse at gunpoint. I feel like these type of incidence are more on the rare side than the common side just like posters have reported being drugged and robbed by chicas they brought back to their apartments, again rare but these things happen. It pays to be careful and not let your guard down. Until you have a good feel for the place it is probably better to stay in an apartment or hotel that has security and vets the chicas that you bring their. I have to say though that I never heard of a guy getting robbed at a love hotel, but I have heard guys say that they never let their stuff out of their site and take their wallet and phone to the bathroom with them in those situations.
From your description of wanting to be out interacting I have to say that Centro is the spot but the mongering there happens during the day from what I gather. And this is the edgier part of town. I have not gone fishing in that hole so I am not the one to know everything about it. But there are the strip clubs and casas where you can interact and feel out the chicas too. Lleras park is where the most gringos are going to be hanging out but it is mostly a Thursday through Saturday happening, and even then there are nights where working girls are hit or miss. There can be some aggressive ones there too, not like the Southeast asia girls who walk up and grab your crotch and giggle but the pestering type that will try to "talk" you into a session with them, I avoid them because they are annoying and I just can't possibly be attracted to a chica that was annoying.
When I went to Thailand the only part of Colombia I had visited was Cartagena, and when I came back I described Thailand as a megamall versus Cartagena being a department store, the numbers in Thailand are staggering. But Medellin has the numbers also, its just not a place where the chicas are in a few areas like Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy. So I repeat my first advice again, study this thread, take the time to go back for months. Even though as you can see from recent back and forth a lot of posts are the going back and forth about Fayboo vs Centro chicas, each arguing there points, there is stuff in each of the posts like this to learn from. Casa experiences and strip clubs are more often found in straight up trip reports. But I think that once you have studied enough then you can begin to develop a strategy. For the overall numbers Thailand still beats Medellin but for quality and variety, Colombia wins for me. When I went to Thailand 9 years ago the prices were better there than Colombia but with changes in exchange rates, now Colombia is cheaper and it's not a 20 hour flight away. A nice one bedroom apartment can be found in Medellin for the same price or cheaper than a one bedroom hotel suite in Bangkok. I am not trying to favor a mongering method when I say this but I have about 1300 contacts in Medellin now, about half of them are "doable" and around 100 or so are hot so the numbers are there enough to keep a man busy.
This is a pretty good resource for helping develop a strategy find the list and the map
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List
[QUOTE=LoverBoy1024;2425437]It seemed to me that four in the afternoon the park would start looking like rush hour for hookers. They all get there for the Colombian business guys getting off work. But you can always find girls on Calle 52. I think an hour or two after dark would be prudent especially on a Friday or weekend. I saw lots of people in the park and lots of police. Especially police tasked to look for minors.[/QUOTE]I have seen girls working the streets in El Centro who definitely look like minors. No police around. You still definitely want to keep far away from them.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2425713]I have seen girls working the streets in El Centro who definitely look like minors. No police around. You still definitely want to keep far away from them.[/QUOTE]Very true and most of them work on the backside of the Church.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2425713]I have seen girls working the streets in El Centro who definitely look like minors. No police around. You still definitely want to keep far away from them.[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw some girls that looked too young too. I only saw some police action once. Instead they seem to just put up a tent and sit inside it.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2425549]I have not read about posters getting knock on the door in El Centro. You number is off or at least you can't generalize it that way. I think Premier is at least an hour. If you tip the receptionist, she will give you more hours. This is straight from the receptionist. Zona Rosa is for 3 hours. You can bring several back to Hotel Botero that costs nothing as long as they have ID or passport. AirBnB will work the same way for FB or El Centro girl so I don't think room cost can be factored into consideration like that.[/QUOTE]This is good information for others to know in that it dispels what has been posted by others that all the Hotels in El Centro have time limits of 20-30 minutes.
The Premium Plaza easily allows two hour stays, and tipping as you mentioned goes a long way at these Hotels. I typically give the receptionists a 2,000 Peso tip which is huge. So having preferred status at these establishments doesn't get me say an early check in, but I am given the better rooms, extra towels / soap, and I guess you might call it a later check out time. If I could only earn points at these places I would have several free nights accumulated by now.
They will approach with what looks like CD jackets fanned out and will bend down while smiling and pushing them against your pocket with one hand while covering the other in your pocket. Often in pairs. Speaking english loudly or dressed unlike a local will get you singled out and the crowds of people milling about will watch everything. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2425447]Interesting, I find the reverse to be true, I speak a fair amount of Spanish and not a single word of Thai and feel way safer in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Agree! I feel the same, and I just got back from there after spending 20 days between Thailand and Phnom Penh, Cambodia. To my surprise, I found the hysteria over the Corona virus worse in the US than over there. My reasoning, there are over 4 billion people in that part of the world. The chances of me catching that virus are fairly small. And if I did catch it and died from it, than it would just be my time to go.
Is there a metro estacion near Parque lleras? For my research the nearest one is Estacion Poblado but looks a little far away. Is there another much closer to get in 5 min on foot?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2425551]Just my impression, but I see the El Centro girls as relying more on volume. She needs 3 or 4 customers a day. The Facebook girls only need 1.4 in a week is big money. However, there's always an upside to treating them right.[/QUOTE]It will be a mistake to generalize it. As far as vennies are concerned, most don't get that much business, often none at all.
There was one who I sessioned with twice. Her friends thought she was my novia after. She is decent looking but her makeup made her look like a clown. You have to see thru that to pick her. She no longer works en El Centro because she does not have customer. I did not session with her again because her performance isn't great but she did do everything I asked. Some girls are not cut out for this type of work. That is one reason that girls in El Centro are changing.
It's not difficult to prevent this sort of thing. Follow the general rule to not allow people to touch you. In very crowded areas like the metro, sidewalks, or the Opera commercial center, where close contact and touching is unavoidable, be extra mindful of your pockets and their contents.
[QUOTE=Bill;2425775]They will approach with what looks like CD jackets fanned out and will bend down while smiling and pushing them against your pocket with one hand while covering the other in your pocket. Often in pairs. Speaking english loudly or dressed unlike a local will get you singled out and the crowds of people milling about will watch everything. Good luck.[/QUOTE]