Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Allover;1861838]I have reported on the little massage shops next to Villa Market before. The girls are there 24 hours. I often stay near there at Grand President on Soi 11 and take girls to my hotel from there. I have had many nights saved when I couldn't find a suitable girl elsewhere and picked one up from these massage shops.[/QUOTE]Some of those girls are a real surprise. Was there last year in one of the shops down opposite the hairdresser. The price quoted was 1500 thb for boom boom. Not a bad looker & very chatty & friendly. Not much massage which is ok. DFK, BBBJ, cap on and she is CG. I'm playing with her arse & she says you want to do. I say up to you. She lubes up with coconut oil & a minute later I'm balls deep in her arse. Unexpected & I gave her an extra 200 bht which she was happy with. Said she liked sometimes.

Another day another night.

The Thai blacked babe had squeezed every inch of cum from inside me so I went for a nice lunch at mono+mono chicken wings shop after a heartiest lunch came home and started to work around 6 pm I was shit tired my eyes and my body had given up its been 3 days I had not slept for a good 6 hrs I could still smell her pussy juices on me all over my body so took a hot bath in the Jacuzzi and dozed off when I woke up it was 2:30 am WTF I slept for 6 hrs man it was bliss feeling. Took a shower and was in shock by 3:30 just when I entered this Uzbek had seen her on the first night also took hold of my hand and smooched me I had just entered she said Alex I was in awe how does she know my name it seems that women do talk about there customers between themselves. She was cute not hot but had hooters and that also natural I was taken from her boobs and the way she kissed or smooched or DFK. Went to the bar for my drink and she was already hugging me saw two more awesome Uzbek babes both doable but I was already taken poor me I did not have the guts to say no to her it was disrespectful to degrade a lady even if she is hooker I always think respect for the lady plus if the lady is into you it's a guarantee the night is going to be 100 % rocking. So I tell her lets go another disco she said Alex I know you like Bollywood disco I was surprised to hell and thought she knew from Bollywood she must have seen from there with another lady and she must be there with another punter.

So we reach Bollywood after a couple of drinks later at shock and the place was already packed with some Arabic punters with two Arabic babes one Iranian and the other maghrib with these 5 guys all In shorts and flip flops we get to our usual table I wanted to drink tonight and this babe wanted to drink also so we were into heavy drinking and she was an awesome dancer with those big tits half out she was a stealing every ones attention. She was going crazy making out with me in the club on the sofa, smooching and kissing biting me her and there she had my shirt almost open. I was shy but this Uzbek was out of control she wanted to dance with the girls on the stage so she ordered her song and robin said Alex I want fuck this babe tonight you do what you want but I want to fuck her like a ***** I was quiet we both had a big laugh the babe was high and horny I could feel it from her panties I slid my hand inside and it came out wet I licked it clean and she was shocked she licked my face clean and had her tongue inside me I was in a crazy state now.

We enjoyed our 2 hrs in Bollywood and she was in awe with me I am a gentleman and make my lady also feel special and classy she was surprised to see the respect with me in Bollywood never did her glass was empty, not even once did she even have to open the washroom door, not even once she had to light her cigge her side of table was cleaned time and again different waiters asking her time and again do you need anything perks of being with Alex, we head out and the food never fails to amaze me tummy full we land home, entered room and she is horny strips out of her clothes in a flash and has me naked in moments she is into me its non stop smooches and she is fondling my dick like a play station remote. I am today fresh after a 6 HR sleep so even this bottle of vodka does not make me high anymore so we were kissing she was horny she wanted sex I wanted to wait and make her high she had me in her mouth and was sucking it compare it with the Thai ladies sucking speed and skills she was a failure in that department so I started DATY and she was pink and clean and was wet very wet my tongue started the swirling and she was in heaven only saying jonim please fuck me please jonim I want fuck and I entered her but she was tight very tight even after being so wet she was tight I was unable to enter she screamed and I started to smooch her and then enter her she was in pain but she wanted it so badly the moment it was fully in I could feel my dick is stretching her pussy walls a lot she was enjoying it like crazy in 5 minutes she was cumming and was shy I started to hump again and in 10 minutes she is into it throws me down and starts to ride me like crazy man she is a tigress in bed but I am no so much into it so its RCG now and then BBBJ she is fucking crazy I am feeling the rhythm and I throw her under me and start the marathon fuck man she is gasping for air thatçs the problem with slim babes both the Thai thick lady and Blacked babe were so comfortable with me when I started the marathon she was feeling the heat but I was in mood and motion and in 5 minutes even she was leaking crazy. In no time I am cumming like crazy and she is already in a cum mode so we both rest for a while and then head to the Jacuzzi for a hot bath. It's a bliss this Jacuzzi after sex so much fun, 20 minutes in the Jacuzzi the babe wants sex again. You crazy I tell her yes she says I am crazy I want sex again I like too much sex. I laughed like crazy back in room in 5 minutes she is sleeping like a baby, I am working and starting my day.

Nothing great but tonight I am going to hunt in Soi 4 in the Arab quarter for an Indian, Paki or Arab or even for a black babe.

Cheers,

Alex

[QUOTE=Evianist;1862206]Quality is pretty low.

If you can find real girls amidst all the ladyboys on there, they're the same girls who hang out around McDonald's and Subway during the day, or in some of the freelance discos at night.

I've tried it and find very little of interest.[/QUOTE]Good to hear a honest assessment of WeChat, I fully agree.

Several times, I heard random posters say "the (hooker) scene is no worse, maybe better, than before, but the girls have just moved online, like on WeChat, ThaiFriendly and Tinder". And it's maddening since that's simply not the case. Plenty of girls online, but they're mostly normal girls, and even if some are looking money in some shape, not explicit, require work, you can't just ask and have them come over within an hour or two (plus there are so many flakes / ladyboys to contend with in the small group who are obviously PFP).

I would agree on this front but not fully, I have been in contact with some hotties I am gona meet on my trip starting in about 10 days, I am chatting with about 10 girls I know I will meet at least 2 but all from different sources like badoo and DIA I know most of the girls are regular girls by the amount of pictures I have seen but you never know, I have made it very clear to them I won't pay any money and still 4-5 wana meet me for coffee and drinks let's see how lucky I get I have been doing this same thing for my HK trips and been fucking free fucks.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1862351]Good to hear a honest assessment of WeChat, I fully agree.

Several times, I heard random posters say "the (hooker) scene is no worse, maybe better, than before, but the girls have just moved online, like on WeChat, ThaiFriendly and Tinder". And it's maddening since that's simply not the case. Plenty of girls online, but they're mostly normal girls, and even if some are looking money in some shape, not explicit, require work, you can't just ask and have them come over within an hour or two (plus there are so many flakes / ladyboys to contend with in the small group who are obviously PFP).[/QUOTE]

I was told that the scene is much worse nowadays for providers. Customer numbers are way down.
White and japanese aren't visiting as much, and the Chinese don't stray too far from their tour buses.

One girl who works on wechat and the street told me that her opening offer 5 years ago was 2000, and nowadays it's 1500 because people don't want to pay a lot, and there aren't as many customers to be choosy with.
Other girls are taking the opposite approach and trying to push ST rates up to 2500 and 3000 to make up for the fewer customers (Thai logic).

And whenever I drop by Cowboy or Nana in the past year or two they're pretty dead except for a few popular bars.

I remember 5 years ago it was hard to get a seat in almost every bar if it was 10 pm, but now that's only the case maybe in baccara.

I wouldn't say the online p4 p scene is very good, but the freebie scene is amazing nowadays thanks to dating apps and the moderate sexual revolution they've caused globally.

Probably not so much for tourists, but as an expat I frequently feel like I need a secretary to schedule all the girls who want to meet for sex, and I often have to turn them down.

Some of them are hookers and want some cash, but most are just horny or want to land a boyfriend.

Today I slept with 3 girls and it's not 9 pm yet.

1) Gogo bargirl (don't know which bar).

Then a 3 some with a 2) 33 year old rich girl virgin and a 3) 22 year old deaf freelancer visiting from phuket.

[QUOTE=Evianist;1862462]I wouldn't say the online p4 p scene is very good, but the freebie scene is amazing nowadays thanks to dating apps and the moderate sexual revolution they've caused globally.

Probably not so much for tourists, but as an expat I frequently feel like I need a secretary to schedule all the girls who want to meet for sex, and I often have to turn them down.

Some of them are hookers and want some cash, but most are just horny or want to land a boyfriend.
[/QUOTE]Got to say that is what I am experiencing, too. Which kind of pisses me off because I moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. I posted a while back that if all the go-go bars in Bangkok closed tomorrow it would barely cause a glitch in my already very filled dance card.

The weirdest part of it is it turns out that, despite the fact that I still get some real winner P4P experiences here, because of the deterioration of the quality of service among the P4 P girls overall, it is now a much greater certainty that I will get laid and / or blown royally and my way by my next non pro 20-something year old "first time date" in exchange for nothing more than dinner at an inexpensive Thai restaurant and a movie, if that, than with my next 350 baht of Lady Drinks, 800 baht barfine, 2500 baht-to-the-girl go-go dancer with whom I have engaged in a tedious and uncomfortable detailed pre-barfine interview in an effort NOT to totally waste my time and money over the next two hours.

The money I have spent in a few so-called "PSE" oily Massage Shops has only bought even LESS certainty about my getting laid and/or blown anything worth a damn.

Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Isn't the "first time date" girl supposed to be the sexually uncertain partner for the evening while the "good time for cash" bargirl the absolute sure thing? lol. Not in Thailand anymore. Not for me, at least.

[QUOTE=Kar2692;1862442]been in contact with some hotties I am gona meet... I am chatting with about 10 girls... will meet at least 2... I have made it very clear to them I won't pay any money and still 4-5 wana meet me for coffee and drinks [/QUOTE]Good luck. Personally, to me all that sounds like a massive amount of work, and not the kind of work that I particularly enjoy doing or care to perform only to dip my end into some Thai pussy (paid or civilian). Perhaps if I were looking for a real long-term relationship it could be worthwhile, but that is hard to find (different criteria altogether) I already have a GF. In the old days, getting a decent semi-pro for an hour or three of fun used to be way less complicated and cheaper too, unless you value time spent doing the chore of online chasing / dating at zero.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1862554]moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. [/QUOTE]Great description, the online scene is indeed dating on steroids. If you work hard and spend the time, with a bit of pipelining (it takes about 2 weeks to start up), you can arrange a date for nearly every day and shag a new girl every week. If I were just arriving to these shores, this would have impressed me. However, having been here in PFP heyday, and having tried online dating before, it just seems like a lot of hassle for a not-so-amazing reward. Might be crude to say this, but most (95%) of the Thai girls are not all that interesting to me on a personal level, apart from the bedroom games. Not much of a conversation (though I do speak Thai), and not much in terms of shared interests / activities. I did a few bursts of pipelining and dating over the years, and it gets tiring.

I feel a bit bad since above might be a dream come true to anyone living in the West and getting sporadic or no interest from women on dating sites, but such is life in Bangkok.

If you get any enjoyment from online dating, enjoy it while it lasts. In my opinion, in 5 years or less, it'll be much more difficult.

A few years ago (2010 or so) online dating was way easier than now. Before smartphones and Line, if you lived in Bangkok, all you needed to do to set up a meeting with almost any girl that's interested is to SMS her a time and a place. No need to charm them online: if there was any interest at all, you'd quickly and easily get a phone number, and then a meeting. These days you need to soften them a bit with inane Line message / stickers, knowing full well she's talking to 20 other guys, keeping her options open and taking her sweet time to make a choice. It seems to me like many are not eager to meet, but using online dating for self-validation, having constant expressions of interest feels good as a boost to self-esteem. So, it's already on the downward track, and won't last forever.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1862554]Got to say that is what I am experiencing, too. Which kind of pisses me off because I moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. I posted a while back that if all the go-go bars in Bangkok closed tomorrow it would barely cause a glitch in my already very filled dance card.

The weirdest part of it is it turns out that, despite the fact that I still get some real winner P4P experiences here, because of the deterioration of the quality of service among the P4 P girls overall, it is now a much greater certainty that I will get laid and / or blown royally and my way by my next non pro 20-something year old "first time date" in exchange for nothing more than dinner at an inexpensive Thai restaurant and a movie, if that, than with my next 350 baht of Lady Drinks, 800 baht barfine, 2500 baht-to-the-girl go-go dancer with whom I have engaged in a tedious and uncomfortable detailed pre-barfine interview in an effort NOT to totally waste my time and money over the next two hours. [/QUOTE]Now I visit gogo bars only a few times a year. With all the coyotes, and girls quoting 2500ST and all the added fees of drinks + ladydrinks + barfine + ST hotel, it's just not worth it.

The last time I barfined a girl, she had been super friendly and cool in the bar, and then got super cold and weird in the hotel room, and would only do missionary. And then the hotel staff started banging on the door after 40 minutes saying our time was up. I wondered why I was paying so much for this crap when I could go meet a girl off tinder and have way better sex.

[QUOTE]
If you get any enjoyment from online dating, enjoy it while it lasts. In my opinion, in 5 years or less, it'll be much more difficult.

A few years ago (2010 or so) online dating was way easier than now. Before smartphones and Line, if you lived in Bangkok, all you needed to do to set up a meeting with almost any girl that's interested is to SMS her a time and a place. No need to charm them online: if there was any interest at all, you'd quickly and easily get a phone number, and then a meeting. These days you need to soften them a bit with inane Line message / stickers, knowing full well she's talking to 20 other guys, keeping her options open and taking her sweet time to make a choice. It seems to me like many are not eager to meet, but using online dating for self-validation, having constant expressions of interest feels good as a boost to self-esteem. So, it's already on the downward track, and won't last forever. [/QUOTE]It's definitely way easier now due to smartphones and apps.

Although yes, a lot of them are just looking for validation and attention from having 20 guys messaging them trying to get at them, and having 200 unread Line messages at all times.

Or the "JUST LOOKING FOR FRIENDS" girls, who try to act like they're really using a hookup app to try to meet friends.

But after you sift through those, you have much better sex (for much less money) than you do at the bars and massage shops at the moment.

I have been considering bringing up this topic of go-go's bars and girls service overall.

My first trip to Thailand was only last winter and I spent a good deal of time in either Bangkok or Pattaya. Ditto for this winter as well. I have several veteran friends who have been coming to Bangkok for years and their favorite venue to meet girls had been at the go-go's. From here, they try to develop more long term situations with the girl so they can call them to come over without having to trudge down to the go-go and finding new or existing talent.

All have complained about the decline in service accompanied, ironically, by a rise in prices. Combined with reading all the negative reports and my friends experiences, I have never barfined a girl in my two winters here. All of my encounters has either come via a certain particular club here with a sprinkling of girls met on Suk and a one off from the Nana parking lot. Except for a few rare instances, my experiences have been outstanding with many positive times documented in this thread.

I wonder how these clubs stay in business. Sometimes I do go with my friends in a wingman capacity and they are either virtually empty or bereft of potential paying customers. The girls on stage sullenly move around observing themselves in the mirror with an occasional wary glance at their prospects below. I am usually bored out of my mind after the first few rounds of bars. My hometown strip clubs are more fun than what I see in Bangkok.

Fortunately, or I would not be coming, Bangkok and Thailand offer so much more in terms of options of meeting girls half your age and at a reasonable price accompanied by solid GFE. If you treat them as your GF, they generally will reciprocate in kind and usually in spades. I will not mourn the demise of these clubs. Indeed, I look forward to it. It will mean Just more girls going to standard clubs and other venues.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1862699]
I wonder how these clubs stay in business. Sometimes I do go with my friends in a wingman capacity and they are either virtually empty or bereft of potential paying customers. The girls on stage sullenly move around observing themselves in the mirror with an occasional wary glance at their prospects below. I am usually bored out of my mind after the first few rounds of bars. My hometown strip clubs are more fun than what I see in Bangkok.

Fortunately, or I would not be coming, Bangkok and Thailand offer so much more in terms of options of meeting girls half your age and at a reasonable price accompanied by solid GFE. If you treat them as your GF, they generally will reciprocate in kind and usually in spades. I will not mourn the demise of these clubs. Indeed, I look forward to it. It will mean Just more girls going to standard clubs and other venues.[/QUOTE]It's OK if you live here. But if you're a tourist here for a week, you don't want to be wasting your time going out on coffee dates. You want quick, easy, cheap fun.

If I was a tourist I'd probably be going to other countries instead.

I was not referring to coffee dates or DIA dates etc. Per se. But your correct in that a tourist does not have a lot of time checking out various clubs, bars etc. Hoping to find Ms. Right.

However, I find these to be a better option for intrepid souls. Even Thermae is better than most of the go go's though helps if you are a Japanese tourist. 555.

[QUOTE=Evianist;1862710]It's OK if you live here. But if

you're a tourist here for a week, you don't want to be wasting your time going out on coffee dates. You want quick, easy, cheap fun.

If I was a tourist I'd probably be going to other countries instead.[/QUOTE]

I'll been there on Monday looking forward to putting together a great trip report.

Blacked Thai babe: she wants my dick no matter what, says she didn't have sex like this after her black husband left her. Poor me I don't like to repeat pussy.

P.S: this is my photo addition: from my phone: if goes OK voila.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1862598]These days you need to soften them a bit with inane Line message / stickers, knowing full well she's talking to 20 other guys, keeping her options open and taking her sweet time to make a choice. [/QUOTE]Oh my Budddha! These girls have copied us guys' behavior! What is this world coming to?

Really, I think this is - for those of us who are interested - probably the best we could hope for. Rather than the girls looking for a steady relationship through the "dating scene", they are using it as much as we do for an uncomplicated few hours or days of fun and then move on to the next. Same same as many of us do.

Sorry for replying late, I was busy at work but nice to know you are having good time. Just try Thermae bar at basement of Ruamchitt Hotel on Main Sukhumvit road between Soi 13 and 15. Its Pure pick up bar with girls standing in line and guys sitting and checking at girls while nursing there drink. Just walk in see around and if you don't like the atmosphere just walk out, But I will advice you to at least have one drink and check the Thai talent there. Once I met a girl working as a manager in export house and she was just there for some extra income. Its weekend so most of the bars and clubs will be busy today. Oskar is also a good bar with good crowed, but I won't advice you to go there alone cause mostly people drinking there are in group or with friends so its get bit boring if you visiting alone and not able to strike conversation. Mostly girls visit Levels once they finish drinking at Oskar just to shake leg and some looking for punters. The quality of Cocktail at Oskar is great. Hope you going to have fun tonight.

Wish you luck.

Regards,

Fun

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1862316]Another day another night

The Thai blacked babe had squeezed every inch of cum from inside me so I went for a nice lunch at mono+mono chicken wings shop after a heartiest lunch came home and started to work around 6 pm I was shit tired my eyes and my body had given up its been 3 days I had not slept for a good 6 hrs I could still smell her pussy juices on me all over my body so took a hot bath in the Jacuzzi and dozed off when I woke up it was 2:30 am WTF I slept for 6 hrs man it was bliss feeling. Took a shower and was in shock by 3:30 just when I entered this Uzbek had seen her on the first night also took hold of my hand and smooched me I had just entered she said Alex I was in awe how does she know my name it seems that women do talk about there customers between themselves. She was cute not hot but had hooters and that also natural I was taken from her boobs and the way she kissed or smooched or DFK. Went to the bar for my drink and she was already hugging me saw two more awesome Uzbek babes both doable but I was already taken poor me I did not have the guts to say no to her it was disrespectful to degrade a lady even if she is hooker I always think respect for the lady plus if the lady is into you it's a guarantee the night is going to be 100 % rocking. So I tell her lets go another disco she said Alex I know you like Bollywood disco I was surprised to hell and thought she knew from Bollywood she must have seen from there with another lady and she must be there with another punter.[/QUOTE]