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[QUOTE=Acenase;1869501]When you pay the mamasan for these places up front. Are you just paying to pick the cheapest oil massage and you should be able to do whatever you want with the girl to fulfill your fantasies and try to get her to fuck as long as you tip her? You can probably just make all the moves and tell them OK don't rub my back we are going to start off with a kiss first in the shower and then move to the bed and get her to rub your dick first instead of her rubbing your back for a massage, what do you think about this? Or does it have to always go in order of how they do it? Rub your back for a little bit, then turn over, then rub your dick if your hard?[/QUOTE]You are talking apples and oranges here. King and I is a legit shop where a little hanky panky [I]might[/I] be available for the right tip. Dream Heaven Massage is a full service P4 P shop.

Generally in a full service shop where the price is 400/600/800 upfront for 60/90/120 minutes the expected tip is 500 HJ 1000 BJ 1500 FS although most ladies expect you to take the 1500 option. Tell the girl you want a "special massage" on the way to the room.

If the upfront pricing in a full service shop is 1900/210/2300 they have already collected the FS portion, and at that point only a small tip (200 be range) is [I]up to you[/I] based on satisfaction.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1869824]You are talking apples and oranges here. King and I is a legit shop where a little hanky panky [I]might[/I] be available for the right tip. Dream Heaven Massage is a full service P4 P shop.

Generally in a full service shop where the price is 400/600/800 upfront for 60/90/120 minutes the expected tip is 500 HJ 1000 BJ 1500 FS although most ladies expect you to take the 1500 option. Tell the girl you want a "special massage" on the way to the room.

If the upfront pricing in a full service shop is 1900/210/2300 they have already collected the FS portion, and at that point only a small tip (200 be range) is [I]up to you[/I] based on satisfaction.

SL.[/QUOTE]But what if the price says Oil Massage - 1500 Baht and they say that is for HJ only. But Body to Body Massage - 2000 Baht for Full Service. If I tell them I want to pay for the HJ only and pay 1500. When I go to the room with the girl, she is going to only give me a HJ? Or what if I get her horny enough do you think she will be OK with the full service if she likes me or if I choose HJ then that's all I will get?

Hi Acenase; It seems to me you are worrying about all the wrong things in Bangkok. Decide what you want and then find a massage shop that provides what you want. You make it sound like your choice is limited to one place and that's plain crazy. Really legit places are going to tell you 'no' to your request, but you won't be the first guy to ask. The pop-shops will quote you the price and may recommend a girl.

[QUOTE=Acenase;1869949]But what if the price says Oil Massage - 1500 Baht and they say that is for HJ only. But Body to Body Massage - 2000 Baht for Full Service. If I tell them I want to pay for the HJ only and pay 1500. When I go to the room with the girl, she is going to only give me a HJ? Or what if I get her horny enough do you think she will be OK with the full service if she likes me or if I choose HJ then that's all I will get?[/QUOTE]Should be you can have more than HJ. However you will have pay her extra. She does not get enough from her portion of the 1500. She probably only gets 700 or 800 Baht at most. Its about doing her a good deal.

It is unusual not to decide you want to fuck before start of the sessiin though. You must be very scared of bad chemistry, or is it that you want bareback but she probably will refuse that?

Probable Japanese guy came into CH bar with two girls dressed extremely glamorously. They sat very close to me. Conversation was English. I guessed the 2 girls were Thai. One was very tall with apparent nose job and tit job most likely. Slightly reminiscent of a Ladyboy. The other girl has medium colour skin (not that pale), big lips, looked rather sophisticated, maybe 35 YO and was exceptionally stunning. I became far more interested in the female customer instead of the dancing girls. She outclassed them easily given that Donut has not been around. Was hard to tell if she was the man's GF, friend, Escort or what, since he had the two special girls with him and seemed fairly close to both. The group bought a couple of drinks for one dancing girl, but they made a poor choice in my opinion. Picked a girl with silicones, ordinary face and worse than ordinary character. They were not to know. Anyway surprised they stayed quite a long time sitting next to the stage for close up pussy. His girls were far too good to be compared to the dancers in general. In the end I left taking no one and was only there for a long time to watch that female customer's extreme beauty and elegance.

Stopped to chat to a beautiful (new girl) hostess/waitress and her friend at @Corner bar and get a burger. I guess she is not barfinable, otherwise I would make a move.

Looked in Doll House. Downstairs some girls were naked and very raunchy, inviting customers to plant a kiss on the clean shaved pussy while they danced. No girls were really good enough for me to select, whether face or figure problems. I went upstairs to the toilet before intending to head home, with no fuck, but not feeling excessively horny .

Upstairs had tabletop dancing "Coyote" girls. Coyote outfit but not exactly Coyote dancing style. First thing I saw was one a Coyote dancer's incredibly great ass. Could not resist "Naa". Was very late so the BF had reduced to 1200 after midnight and 1 K Baht after 2AM I think. Her face was not perfection (a few marks) but at least no nose job and good smile. Not unusual for Coyotes, the hard shell bra encompases quite small tits when they are not siliconised. She was drunkish, but still an enjoyable fuck, especially from behind.

Evidence of the cute ass included. Hot enough to be actually worth asking for a shot maybe. I guess she may be lacking enough fat to fit everyone's taste. ;) That even slope angle from waist to thigh really gets to me.

A regular go go dancer I see didn't return to work until the 22nd. So despite Songkhran ending around the 17th, many Thai's have continued vacations spent in places like Pattaya / Rayong / phuket / etc. Really have to wait an entire week, until about the 22nd, for Songkhran's effects to really be over.

[QUOTE=Acenase;1869949]But what if the price says Oil Massage - 1500 Baht and they say that is for HJ only. But Body to Body Massage - 2000 Baht for Full Service. If I tell them I want to pay for the HJ only and pay 1500. When I go to the room with the girl, she is going to only give me a HJ? Or what if I get her horny enough do you think she will be OK with the full service if she likes me or if I choose HJ then that's all I will get?[/QUOTE]The short answer is here are 1,000's of massage shops in Thailand and each one is different. Within that each lady is also different. If you want predictable uniformity stick to McDonalds or Starbucks.

But in the spirit of helping the newbies I will give it another try:

Review the website for http://www.analisamassage.com/ for an example. They have massage options and FS options on the menu. Some ladies will do FS and some will not. That is why you should clarify things before you begin. Trying to do so [I]on the fly[/I] is not impossible but can be a clunky discussion.

And the notion that a lady will all of a sudden adjust her limits or throw you an easy upgrade once you are in the room (because you are such a rare Romeo) is rather fanciful. You are a customer. She has multiple customers per day, meaning 100's per month, and 1,000's per year. Do the math. It is a job for her.

SL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1870094]Probable Japanese guy came into CH bar with two girls dressed extremely glamorously. They sat very close to me. Conversation was English. I guessed the 2 girls were Thai. One was very tall with apparent nose job and tit job most likely. Slightly reminiscent of a Ladyboy. The other girl has medium colour skin (not that pale), big lips, looked rather sophisticated, maybe 35 YO and was exceptionally stunning. I became far more interested in the female customer instead of the dancing girls. She outclassed them easily given that Donut has not been around. Was hard to tell if she was the man's GF, friend, Escort or what, since he had the two special girls with him and seemed fairly close to both. The group bought a couple of drinks for one dancing girl, but they made a poor choice in my opinion. Picked a girl with silicones, ordinary face and worse than ordinary character. They were not to know. Anyway surprised they stayed quite a long time sitting next to the stage for close up pussy. His girls were far too good to be compared to the dancers in general. In the end I left taking no one and was only there for a long time to watch that female customer's extreme beauty and elegance.

Stopped to chat to a beautiful (new girl) hostess/waitress and her friend at @Corner bar and get a burger. I guess she is not barfinable, otherwise I would make a move.

Looked in Doll House. Downstairs some girls were naked and very raunchy, inviting customers to plant a kiss on the clean shaved pussy while they danced. No girls were really good enough for me to select, whether face or figure problems. I went upstairs to the toilet before intending to head home, with no fuck, but not feeling excessively horny .

Upstairs had tabletop dancing "Coyote" girls. Coyote outfit but not exactly Coyote dancing style. First thing I saw was one a Coyote dancer's incredibly great ass. Could not resist "Naa". Was very late so the BF had reduced to 1200 after midnight and 1 K Baht after 2AM I think. Her face was not perfection (a few marks) but at least no nose job and good smile. Not unusual for Coyotes, the hard shell bra encompases quite small tits when they are not siliconised. She was drunkish, but still an enjoyable fuck, especially from behind.

Evidence of the cute ass included. Hot enough to be actually worth asking for a shot maybe. I guess she may be lacking enough fat to fit everyone's taste. ;) That even slope angle from waist to thigh really gets to me.[/QUOTE]Great body, but for that BF and what she probably wants for ST, unless she was a real PSE performer then I would just not be interested.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1870068]Should be you can have more than HJ. However you will have pay her extra. She does not get enough from her portion of the 1500. She probably only gets 700 or 800 Baht at most. Its about doing her a good deal.

It is unusual not to decide you want to fuck before start of the sessiin though. You must be very scared of bad chemistry, or is it that you want bareback but she probably will refuse that?[/QUOTE]It's none of that dude. I just want to pay the less that I can pay.

Because why should I choose to fuck and pay 2000 BAHT up front, when I can choose HJ only for 1500 BAHT and then if I really have good chemistry with the girl, then I can decide to fuck her and then tip her 500 BAHT and walk out a happy man instead of paying 2000 BAHT up front and then feel like there is no chemistry, and then I can't even stay hard to fuck her? Or when I fuck her it's just boring and then I pay 2000 Baht anyways and leave. So the better option for me would be to choose the HJ, pay 1500 up front, and then if the girl is good, then I will pay her extra for the fuck service.

[QUOTE=Acenase;1870264]So the better option for me would be to choose the HJ, pay 1500 up front, and then if the girl is good, then I will pay her extra for the fuck service.[/QUOTE]Interesting theory. I would never risk to end up paying $50 for an HJ in Thailand.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1870413]Interesting theory. I would never risk to end up paying $50 for an HJ in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Based on his scenario's I see two outcomes:

1) Pay 2,000 baht and spend 1 hour enjoying FS activities including DFK, HJ, BJ, DATY and [I]boom boom[/I].

2) Pay 1,500 baht receiving a 30 minute back massage (flip) then 10 minute front massage, 10 minute HJ, then (while at a situational disadvantage) try to negotiate a price and hope she agrees, and [I]maybe[/I] 10 minutes of rushed [I]boom boom[/I].

I would take choice #1 anytime better VFM.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1870642]Agreed. Based on his scenario's I see two outcomes:

1) Pay 2,000 baht and spend 1 hour enjoying FS activities including DFK, HJ, BJ, DATY and [I]boom boom[/I].

2) Pay 1,500 baht receiving a 30 minute back massage (flip) then 10 minute front massage, 10 minute HJ, then (while at a situational disadvantage) try to negotiate a price and hope she agrees, and [I]maybe[/I] 10 minutes of rushed [I]boom boom[/I].

I would take choice #1 anytime better VFM.

SL.[/QUOTE]The chances of negotiating an upgrade to FS from a HJ for 500 baht, good luck with that. Not impossible if you were hitting it off with the girl but the normal increments are 500 from HJ to BJ and 500 from BJ to FS.

Did a quick Bangkok stint Friday night, stopped at tulip took Lan, quite pretty face, small top substantial ass especially for my usual spinner preference but great service and attitude as always at tulip. Checked cowboy and Nana briefly as usual, nice spinners at the parking lot. Also some nice faces at the beer garden. Bangkok beat was fun and did its name proud, but the absolutely best sight to see was thermae. Friday night maybe 9:30 the girls inside were standing in a nice curved line from the from front entrance to the back door, both sides. Tight- shoulder to shoulder sometimes doubled up. Very nice looking and young ones. The punters, many Asians as usual in the middle at the bar. The place to be.

Hey guys,

I am thinking to head to BKK for one week. Anyone know of any GOOD cosmetic dentists in BKK? My buddy wants lumineers. Thanks.

Viper10.

[QUOTE=Viper10;1871359]Hey guys,

I am thinking to head to BKK for one week. Anyone know of any GOOD cosmetic dentists in BKK? My buddy wants lumineers. Thanks.

Viper10.[/QUOTE]Dr Asavanant, Thong Lor, Suk and soi 55, across the street from the BTS exit, has excellent dentists on staff. He's been extremely successful since I first visited in, oh, 2001 (so his prices are higher than others. But he has a state-of-the-art office and equipment.