Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1878357]<SNIP>

Viagra is very strong, so don't take a full 100 MG dose, till you see how you body reacts. It may blow your head off. LOL A quarter of a tablet is a good way to start, I think. Even that can have very strong results for those not used to it. [/QUOTE]This discussion should be in the special thread for Viagra.

Check out this article that I posted there. It is a well-written article, especially about how to spot fakes, and warnings about taking too much and overloading your kidneys.

https://theconversation.com/weekly-dose-the-hard-facts-on-viagra-58289 (sorry the link needs to be pasted into your browser)

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878006]I agree with you, though in this instance, it appeared to me that she remembered how awful she was since she went on about doing proper LT. I did not get into the whole gist of our convo but she seemed to suggest making amends if I took her home. Though from my perspective, I thought that there was a 50% possibility of getting played (again).[/QUOTE]I fell for this ploy a few times earlier, but almost never take a dud girl a second time anymore. It usually turns out to be as big a waste of time, emotion and money the second time as it was the first. I think the ONLY occasions where that second time has turned out to be worth it was when I have gone down the list of acts and behaviors I would expect from her the second time around and assured her that if she did not perform or comply I would not pay her anything at all, is she ok with that? If she doesn't say she is ok with my not paying her so much as a single baht unless she does as I described, I do not entertain repeating with her for even one more minute.

If she cannot agree to that, she is definitely planning to play me again and we now both know it. Drop the idea of it from your mind immediately and turn your attentions elsewhere. Promises to be "better" than the first time without gory details and specifics along with her agreement to perform or no pay is expected are utterly worthless, IMO. I have had a few second times around under those circumstances and the satisfactions, both sexually and emotionally, are quite all right.

Hello brothers of Bangkok,

I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and am staying near Sukhumvit road. I have head and read a lot about Go go clubs and bars & pick up joints etc.

I am planning to visit some of them to taste some Thai girls. Can you suggest any places that are safe and do not have law issues. Also what are normal rates for a ST?

Are their short term rooms available and what are the charges for that? Do girls normally charge along with rooms or is that to be paid separately? I can speak only English. I hope that will not turn out to be a handicap.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1878423]This discussion should be in the special thread for Viagra.

Check out this article that I posted there. It is a well-written article, especially about how to spot fakes, and warnings about taking too much and overloading your kidneys.

https://theconversation.com/weekly-dose-the-hard-facts-on-viagra-58289 (sorry the link needs to be pasted into your browser)[/QUOTE]Here's the link.

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[QUOTE=EihTooms;1878428]I details and specifics along with her agreement to perform or no pay is expected are utterly worthless, IMO.[/QUOTE]Yes, when you consider all the new fresh options available why bother with a possible bad repeat. On this subject, I have also become less interested in taking out girls I had a good to great experience on the first go around. Invariably it appears that many girls get lazier and I am less inclined to agree to second dates.

As to my subject line, last night I was at a dance club but only to hang out and have a beer and listen to music. This is no so easy to do in Bangkok as many FL's either lack the inner radar to tell when to leave a guy be or just are desperate for a customer and plow straight ahead regardless of whether they think you are interested in them or not.

I gradually felt myself being subtly surrounded by a few sharks smelling blood on the water or in this scenario a single older guy sitting in a corner nursing a Singha. One reason for drinking slowly was I had only a few hundred baht in my pocket as I forgot to hit the ATM.

One older dame had crept up stealth like behind me on a railing, no doubt trying to figure out how to get my attention. While engaged in a diversionary maneuver with her, another girl came up and just started dancing with me finally pulling me to the dance floor despite my protestations that I was not available tonight. Actually, in all probability I was available, just not for her.

Overall, she was not bad but still I am not really interested when they pick you. Sort of like hailing a cab. I prefer making the choice. After several dances, I was ready to leave solo and decided to extricate myself politely out of this situation by offering to buy her a beer with the limited funds I had available. Figuring I could also save face for this lassie before departing and be a good guy.

However, she also had a nearby friend who had been alternating between ogling me and encouraging me with various facial tics about how hot her friend was. It was at this point that the girl I was dancing with also insisted I buy her friend a beer too. When I declined (no $$ plus I did not want to buy two beers for two girls on my way out the door), she appeared irritated. Her friend picked up on my lack of interest in buying her a beer but also noticed I was making a hasty exit so she said that's OK I don't want one. Too late though because by now I was already exiting stage left. Now, this girl probably really lost face and I am the bad guy.

In my defense, I have bought girls' beers for their friends
before here on several occasions but it's nice to be the one making the offer, not the other way around.

[QUOTE=TravelTop;1878208]Hi Alex,

I know that you are a GURU for Dubai and of course, want to be there some time to enjoy with your leads. Although I am not expert but have some good experiences in Bangkok since I have been mongering in this City for last 20 Yrs. The place I refer is the same I go for last 10 yrs which is neither the club or a gogo. It's a coffee shop basically but a drink joint at night. Please visit "Thermae" Cafe Underground of Rumchaet Plaza Hotel, Soi 15 which is on the main road. You need to visit after 9 PM and bunch of girls are seen lined up around the room which you can observe one by one. With your experience, I am sure you can pick the youngest and cutest one out there. Many of them are students, office workers and Mall assistants who come to make some side income. In this place, I have hunted many students, office girls, beauticians, IT professionals including one Sports Girl, a nurse and an 18 yr old school girl, lovely one of her dad and mom. Try it and you will know the difference. One thing to keep in mind: Many Girls look for Japanese only since they are not regular and fear large cocks. So, you should pretend to be simple and polite to show that you are not very rough. Once you get into the room, who cares, how big you have and small their pussy is, just dig and pump as much![/QUOTE]Thanks TT, this time will definitely go for the hunt in Thermae. Last time was Oskar, Spasso and Ce La Vie (Ku de Ta) . This time thermae and I am also looking for some other classy or high end places where the BKK elites 25-40 go for party or bar or something like that. Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?

Find it for me mate and I will be highly thankful to you.

Cheers,

Alex

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878334]I have been living in Bangkok near Asok and Nana for the past winter and the winter of 2015. Basically, I usually go to the clubs and bars in this area but decided to try some other places a bit further afield for at least the novelty of hanging out in new places.

One place that appears to get high reviews is Ku de TA, which are a complex of clubs located in a high rise building near Sathorn and the W hotel.

As chance would have it, I was at one of my local clubs off Suk when a couple of real classy looking girls sat next to me. One girl initiated a conversation with me. Really striking looking girl wearing a classy cocktail dress, great figure and gorgeous all the way around. Also, I assumed she would be too expensive for me. She immediately owned up to being a working girl and you have to love how unabashed these girls are about their profession. She also added that Thursday night is free flow Champagne night at KuDeTa and she and her girl friends would be going. One thing I enjoyed about this girl was the frank discussion we were having about prices relative to location, tourist on vacation compare to local ex-pats etc. Her English was excellent and she even understood when I said to her 'the skies the limit' -- relative to what she could ask in certain venues.

She seemed interested in me but before she could say anything more direct, I made a joke and said she looked too expensive for me. I can only imagine what she might ask in Ku De TA. However, she knew the general price girls ask in the club where we were having our convo (3 k), though I said that this was just their opening price and I rarely pay more than 2 k bt. She appeared to be a bit disappointed to hear my (bargaining) comments in this regard possible labeling me as a cheap Charlie. Nevertheless, our price discussion aside, we did exchange numbers and she texted me before she left the club for Climax. I really hate that place and she was with a wedding party so I did not want to invite myself along.

So my question is: has anyone spent anytime at KuDeTa? And, is so, what is your experience? I know that it's upscale and the girls prob quote outrageous rates but curious as to the overall ambience there. Since I would be going solo, it's nice that I would know this girl but it's unlikely I would be paying 4 or 5k baht for a ST encounter here.[/QUOTE]In my opinion Ce La Vie (ex ku de ta) is best for a Wednesday or Friday night, that's when you have many semi pros and normal girls hanging there, also there is a large contingent of farang girls who are in BKK for work or maybe are models.

Never saw so much FL'rs action in the 2 days I was there, one of which was a Sunday if I am not wrong. But it is a place with a large hangout of normal BKK and ex-pat crowd and some handsome farang men to be found here also matching with the farang ladies.

It is a very upscale club, they reject too many men for admission at the bottom of the building only where there is a lift to go up and the place certainly feels classy with 3 places the dance floor and dj hall on the right then the nice quiet bar on the left and then they have a sweet outdoor patio for those beautiful views of sat horn and Bangkok from the 40 the floor and for you to kiss your girl and hold her ass and feel those soft sumptuous breasts in that chilled air. Hehehehe.

I am purely a club pickup guy so this is the kind of place I like to spend time but the music and ladies were not my choice maybe I was on a wrong day and both days I was with a very elegant Thai lady who seldom let me eyes wander but its difficult to hold Alex down.

But a nice place definitely worth a visit a tad higher than levels, but if you are looking for classy ladies do try Spasso or Mixx both have a nice collection of very beautiful Thai ladies Spasso is much better as it is less loud and more easy for a conversation and no way you need to pay more than 3 k for an all night to a Thai floor that's more than enough she we will be delightful in Esctacy.

I in my life have never asked a lady how much and what she will do in bed and sex and all those bull shit things, I treat the women with utter respect love and shower immensely on drinks and food for her and her friends and in return I get super service when we reach back our hotel room in Davis.

Cheers. Have fun man.

Alex

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878463]
Now, this girl probably really lost face and I am the bad guy.[/QUOTE]Actually to me it seems that more than loosing face she won a free beer.

I'm always surprised when the foreigner needs wants to see face saving issues in all Thai situations.

These are hookers and you're strangers to each other. Before and after act and payment.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1878477]Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?
[/QUOTE]And a foreigner with no Thai command, that is not a celebrity and doesn't have a Thai introduction, where would belong in such parties?

If you read the story in more depth, you would have seen that she did not get a beer; free or otherwise. I walked out because I was miffed by her attitude and cancelled the order. I actually could care less that she lost face as she brought the whole thing on herself but was noting in her eyes and prob her friend that I am a bad guy now. I initially was going to buy her beer for her time because I enjoyed dancing with her and also I come in this place a lot so didn't want to to totally blow her off in the event I saw her again.

Frequently, Thai's lose face because of an error in judgment on their side. This story is such an example.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1878543]Actually to me it seems that more than loosing face she won a free beer.

I'm always surprised when the foreigner needs wants to see face saving issues in all Thai situations.

These are hookers and you're strangers to each other. Before and after act and payment.[/QUOTE]

So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.

What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;1878477]Thanks TT, this time will definitely go for the hunt in Thermae. Last time was Oskar, Spasso and Ce La Vie (Ku de Ta) . This time thermae and I am also looking for some other classy or high end places where the BKK elites 25-40 go for party or bar or something like that. Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?

Find it for me mate and I will be highly thankful to you.

Cheers,

Alex[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878567]If you read the story in more depth, you would have seen that she did not get a beer; free or otherwise. [/QUOTE]Even better! I can reassure you that the only one that has lost something is you, with a tiny bit of your time. It's not like you were dancing with your dear aunts and missed on some etiquette.

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1878544]And a foreigner with no Thai command, that is not a celebrity and doesn't have a Thai introduction, where would belong in such parties?[/QUOTE]Don't worry ONG, been there done that in China and Hong Kong, doing it now in Dubai didn't knew a word of Arabic but having a Moroccan lady for 6 months have learnt a lot, there are clubs in Dubai where the entry is 30-60 $ just to get inside and yes this applies for the farangs also and Alex goes in free with as many people as he wants, you just need to be humble and down to earth. I used to do a lot of clubs BKK but that was 10 years ago I had a Thai GF who was 19 then and I learnt Thai in 6 months faster than she thought.

Have forgotten quite a bit bt still some of it is still in my dick oops I meant brain. I don't need to go to these page 3 parties or events, I want to know of a bar or club where normal Thais hangout for me to camouflage is not difficult loads of my brethren are pure Thais now with change in there names also so no issues.

Just for your knowledge Alex is a magnet in making friends at the bar so just need to know the place. Just this time I had so much fun in Spasso and Mixx I can't tell you my fellow brethren from my country of birth and my latest country of residence were not allowed in Mixx while I was being given a VVIP treatment don't think I am being proud or loud just that in these 13 years of mongering I've learnt how to find my way just need to know the place a bit.

And all the forum I read is about Go-gos and MP or soapies no fun in all that crap, until you don't get rejected by a lady you don't learn the fun of charming a lady. Its only in Thailand women crave for frang men here in Dubai the sexy Moroccans and Iranians will die but no go with a white man until he is super stashed with cash so its a differ lifestyle but indeed fun.

I am trying to ask many people about the good bars and clubs but no one replied, I think most of the punters in Thai or BKK forum are around 60 so clubs is off there agenda but for me that is the place to hunt and the thrill to hunt.

Cheers: guide me to some nice bars man and it will be fun trust me:

Alex

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878574]So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.

What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]You were way too early. Would not think about going till about 1030 pm.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1878574]So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.

What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]Unless there has been a recent change, Thermae isn't open until 8 pm. So on that occasion you and the stragglers were probably the first ones in after they unlocked the doors. Yes, very early. But I don't know if it is necessary to go as late as 10:30 pm. I am total non-Asian, Caucasian in my 60's, and have had several fine scores with lovely young ladies there as early as 9:30pm in, say, 3 out of 4 tries over the past few months. 2500 baht for low hassle Real GFE my way has been the norm.

I know a lot of guys, non-Asians, say the later the better in Thermae because most of the hottest girls are holding out for the supposedly over-paying, low demand Japanese customers and might be more amenable to a (reasonably) going rate-paying, higher demand Caucasian customer only as the night wears on. Maybe so. Maybe I would have gotten my deal for 2000 instead of 2500 if I'd gone shopping after midnight or later. Don't know since I prefer an earlier session, by around 10pm or so, and haven't been in Thermae in the wee hours of the AM in a while. Still, even as early as 9-9:30 pm arrival has worked out fine for me in Thermae over the past year.