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Has anybody tried Arabic girls from hotel Grace Soi 3 area.

Are the girls give GFE? If somebody tried or know any other place for Arabic girls please suggest.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1880401] I asked a mamasan there how much, about a year ago, she said 3,000 baht to the bar for barfine plus whatever you negotiate to pay the girl separately. The girl I was considering at the time said 3,000 for her, too. For ST. After a hearty laugh, I passed, paid my bar tab and moved on to less rip off environments.[/QUOTE]There are different ways to see that high BF:

A way to discourage the customer to tow the girl away.

If the customer really wants that girl, the bar will be well refunded by the BF.

Wondering how much the mamasan was putting in her pocket.

Seems to be also a lack of relation between bar fine (3000) and the ST (3000).

Everybody trying their bit to milk the farang, in a way or another.

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;1880414]Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.[/QUOTE]8000 is quite similar to some ST for a decent escort type of girl in the western world, 60/90 minutes (the time is often unrelated as they might allow a couple of pops in the best scenario.

In here, with 8000 you pay also her sleeping time. I can't imagine those girls are keen of a sex marathon full night long.

Going to be in Europe next month, and Thailand is magnetically pulling me.

Can anyone recommend a knowledgeable local or ex-pat from this forum, male or female, that can show a newbie the ropes. Literally, walk around and point out what's what and whose who? I just don't have the time or patience to make mistakes, trying to make this trip count starting from the first day.

Willing to compensate or treat to a nice dinner, anything reasonable.

Planning to land in bkk around July 7th.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=MrManGuy;1880414]Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.[/QUOTE]You still don't get it. I'll try again:

Lets take golf: a round costs $200 where you come from, and $50 in Thailand. Would you gladly volunteer to pay $200 in Bangkok anyway because that is what you are used to paying? Would that be an ok price for you?

Dude I'm not trying to be combative; just pointing out how illogical your reasoning is.

SL.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1880658]You still don't get it. I'll try again:

Lets take golf: a round costs $200 where you come from, and $50 in Thailand. Would you gladly volunteer to pay $200 in Bangkok anyway because that is what you are used to paying? Would that be an ok price for you?

Dude I'm not trying to be combative; just pointing out how illogical your reasoning is.

SL.[/QUOTE]Agreed Sunlover2. I have no idea why someone would come to Thailand and pay that kind of money. What you pay in your home country is completely irrelevant to pricing in Thailand. Would you go into a car dealership and offer them twice to three times the sticker price? They would think you were crazy.

So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).

I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).

1. I am looking for recommendations on hip hop, pop and rap music combo dance clubs (similar to Insomnia in Pattaya) to meet college student or office / shopping staff non pros and FL's.

Although I'm an older dude, I find that (even in the US, but a!so in Latin Countries like Spain, or even Australia etc) I usually relate better to girls in their early 20's who love to dance pretty much non stop, intensely. Of course, I'm not looking for freebies but LT GFE 's. And, if I don't find one a particular night, but I enjoyed the ambiance and had fun dancing, that would be ok too (but not the preferred outcome).

2. One thing at Insomnia in Pattaya is the smoking wrecked havoc on my sinuses, but I have been ploughing through it as, 'it is what it is ' and sometimes that's the price one has to pay. But, I would prefer non smoking places. Yes, I'm aware that, all things being equal, oftentimes girls who smoke can be more fun, spontaneous and generous hearted.

3. I have been to Soi Cowboy like 10 years ago, and yes, I do plan to check out Nana and Soi Cowboy during the early PM on one of the days. I've checked out a few gogos in Patts in WS and LK metro but it didn't do anything for me.

4. I will be staying at a suite hotel in the Sukhumvit area. And, will be partying for just 3 nights, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

I've seen people here talk of Thermae, so I will check that out too, on Friday night. If I find someone in my target profile who wants a real LT and wants to dance until at least 3 or 4 am.

Thanks in advance folks !

I went to the Sugar Club on Soi 11 last Saturday. Crowded with lots of young people dancing and mingling. Not my style as don't like hip hop all that much but sounds like you do. There were some hot girls there but I got rejected a few times due to my age, which does not happen very often to me in Bangkok. Of course, rejection rates decline as the early morning hours increase. This place stays open until 7 am or so I am told.

But this Friday may be problematic as to their hours as the Buddha holiday on May 20 may impair their normal operating times.

Speaking of which, I spoke to Bangkok Beat manager last night and he said they are closed on Thursday starting that evening and stay closed until Friday at midnight. They don't want to jeopardize their license by being open at all on May 20.

I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here.

Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch. Maybe they heard about my epic threesome from a few nights ago.555

One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.

[QUOTE=Haven123;1880734]So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).

I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).

1. I am looking for recommendations on hip hop, pop and rap music combo dance clubs (similar to Insomnia in Pattaya) to meet college student or office / shopping staff non pros and FL's.

Although I'm an older dude, I find that (even in the US, but a!so in Latin Countries like Spain, or even Australia etc) I usually relate better to girls in their early 20's who love to dance pretty much non stop, intensely. Of course, I'm not looking for freebies but LT GFE 's. And, if I don't find one a particular night, but I enjoyed the ambiance and had fun dancing, that would be ok too (but not the preferred outcome).

2. One thing at Insomnia in Pattaya is the smoking wrecked havoc on my sinuses, but I have been ploughing through it as, 'it is what it is ' and sometimes that's the price one has to pay. But, I would prefer non smoking places. Yes, I'm aware that, all things being equal, oftentimes girls who smoke can be more fun, spontaneous and generous hearted.

3. I have been to Soi Cowboy like 10 years ago, and yes, I do plan to check out Nana and Soi Cowboy during the early PM on one of the days. I've checked out a few gogos in Patts in WS and LK metro but it didn't do anything for me.

4. I will be staying at a suite hotel in the Sukhumvit area. And, will be partying for just 3 nights, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

I've seen people here talk of Thermae, so I will check that out too, on Friday night. If I find someone in my target profile who wants a real LT and wants to dance until at least 3 or 4 am.

Thanks in advance folks ![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1880763]I went to the Sugar Club on Soi 11 last Saturday. Crowded with lots of young people dancing and mingling. Not my style as don't like hip hop all that much but sounds like you do. There were some hot girls there but I got rejected a few times due to my age, which does not happen very often to me in Bangkok. Of course, rejection rates decline as the early morning hours increase. This place stays open until 7 am or so I am told.

But this Friday may be problematic as to their hours as the Buddha holiday on May 20 may impair their normal operating times.

Speaking of which, I spoke to Bangkok Beat manager last night and he said they are closed on Thursday starting that evening and stay closed until Friday at midnight. They don't want to jeopardize their license by being open at all on May 20.

I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here
Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch.

One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.[/QUOTE]Yep, Thermae has been over for me for quite a few years. After about 09-10 it became so inundated with Japanese and gals who would only service them; the mood was always a downer for me. The exception was during the floods of '11 when much of the city was basked in a foot or so of water. Thermae was a goldmine for about a month with lots of old faces I had not seen for several years and a 1 k Baht price tag. As soon as the waters receded it returned to the horrid new normal.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1880712]Agreed Sunlover2. I have no idea why someone would come to Thailand and pay that kind of money. What you pay in your home country is completely irrelevant to pricing in Thailand. Would you go into a car dealership and offer them twice to three times the sticker price? They would think you were crazy.[/QUOTE]While I don't want to pay a 3000 Baht barfine I have paid 1500 Baht BF. Fucked up analogies prove nothing at all. A girl is not a car or a round of golf. If she were a car, one would easily see the Suzuki and Mercedes have different prices. There are different levels of quality. We can't expect every level of quality to be the same price. Ugly girls realistically have to sell themselves cheaper, to get any takers. A stunning girl can be a higher price and still pulls customers in within a few minutes. These are the unfortunate realities. The prettiest girls are generally not working in the Oilies because they don't make enough money per fuck, or they need more flexibility to work when they feel like it. They can do better elsewhere.

I accept that the type of girls I am looking for, usually do not go for the very lowest prices. I also know they can be a lot less than 8 K for the night in the right place. Anyway the simple fact is prices for all girls are not identical. Everyone has to make their own decision whether the girl is value for money, based on what is available and where. If a stunning girl costs me 3 K and very average looking girl costs only 2 k, am I going to take the 2 k girl? No I don't. I just can't be bothered to waste my money on average girls. If I have two equally stunning girls on offer, sure I will take the one that is much cheaper.

Most of the Coyote girls in Cowboy and Nana are pretty ordinary looking girls that are not worth a high barfine. Simply putting on a Coyote outfit does not improve them. There is the danger of Coyote's bras hiding crappy tits too. I have met the odd stunning exception, where I would be prepared to pay a slightly higher BF. Usually the BF has dropped to a lower price after midnight. The other option as someone mentioned is to try to meet her after work without BF.

Not every monger is looking for the cheapest possible fuck all the time.

For an analogy, I get my dentistry done in Thailand because it is way cheaper than in my home country. However I do not take the absolute cheapest possible dentist available. The dentist qualifications, training, equipment, and skills can matter. I don't monger in my home country any more because it's too pricey, too lousy, don't like girls born in the home country, and don't get enough time. However again I don't take the cheapest possible. My criteria is a bit different.

Apparently Mr. ManGuy thought 8 K was a good deal for all night with a stunning girl. I am sure it was a hell of lot less money than what would cost in his home country, and hence his comment. Sure it might not be the best deal he could do. I have never paid that much total for LT. An Escort would be costing that much. So it's merely a question of if she is special enough to be worth it, or just another average girl, under the undeserved label of an "Escort".

All these money debates get incredibly boring. However I concede Mr. Man Guy brings the controversy on himself by insisting on talking about the prices too much. He would be far better off to shut up about the prices.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1880763]
I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here.

Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch. Maybe they heard about my epic threesome from a few nights ago.555

One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.[/QUOTE]I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact, or girls to show some interest at Thermae, perhaps not every girl was interested. There is a trend there that girls do not go round hassling guys too much. That is just the standard. They don't want to look too brazen. There experience shows it is easier to wait for a guy to show interest.

If at Bangkok Beat, you are inundated with girls approaching you, that you had to sit on the porch. That is bad and annoying. Thermae is better. It is no flattery for girls (or LBs) to be that interested. It shows they think you might be a sucker, that can manipulated or overwhelmed, or a potential easy target.

I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1880584]

Firstly did a slow walk on Cowboy to check the talent of the girls out the front. Can be a good indicator, or better than the talent inside. Did not find any Coyote that was as good looking as two I previously met at Mercury, Palm and Faai. Moved on to Nana and decided to look in Mandarin both Downstairs and Upstairs. Upstairs I thought the girls were just a little better so I stayed just a little longer. Neither bar was at all busy. Maybe 20 girls at each, but less than 10 customers. None of the Coyotes really did proper Coyote dancing, so I regard them as fake Coyotes. No one stunning at either place. Some okay Girls but not really many were slim but curvy and were missing the nose job. Disappointing really. I believe Mandarin was a better bar in the past, talent wise.

Time was getting on so I decided it was an ideal time to check out the Thermae. Arrived after 11 PM. There is plenty of space to move around. Not like the original Thermae, 24 years ago which was smaller inside and so packed that you were forced to be close to lots of other people. There were a lot of girls, maybe 50, maybe more, and somewhat less men. Maybe 20 to 30 Japanese types and maybe about 8 Farangs. I think Farangs were probably doing okay I certainly saw one Farang chat up a girl and they left together. She was moderately cute in the face but shortish and body just a little thicker than my taste around the thighs, small tits. Many girls were conservatively dressed. I am not keen when they wear dresses that hide the size of the thighs and also cover the tits completely.

I could see that the vast majority of the girls were rather flat chested. This is not a problem for me, if I know the tits are at least beautifully shaped A cups and not saggy. Of course with the girl dressed, I just cannot tell. There were some big tits with a high proportion of those likely silicones. Not many girls were dressing sexy so as to expose much of of the breast flesh.

I preferred girls wearing shorts, as it covers legs and ass less. There were a few girls with cutish faces, maybe 6 girls where faces were of moderate interest and that includes some rather dark skinned girls. However it wasn't clear whether any of those girls had a really great body. One or two girls were dressed in tight clothes with a clearly very hot body, good waist to thigh ratio and slim legs and some reasonable cleavage. One of those was spoiled by a beak like nose job. The other just not that pretty.

No girl in the whole place immediately jumped out to me as being obviously stunning, and clearly a great body. It's tougher to tell with over dressed girls. If I was really wanting a fuck, I am sure I would have found something quite okay With probable compromise on the quality of the body. Not willing to take an ugly nose job girls.

I did not see any guys groping girls to check out their bodies. Most guys were acting very polite. Not sure any girl was an obvious challenge to my favourites from elsewhere. It's much harder when you don't know them and haven't had large amounts of time to study each one, my norm when choosing undressed bargirls. However the place was more interesting to me the Mandarin bars. I may well come back and try to find a stunner, possibly would turn up a bit earlier in case the best girls were already gone.

No one in the place would have been competition for exquisite Donut at CH, and possibly not even for Noi at Easy Bar.

It's very hard to compare conservatively dressed girls with naked girls at a go go bar. When girls are naked revealing a great body, they suddenly look so much more enticing, even if many of the faces are not that incredible. I have to assume that conservative dressing is hiding a rather average body until proven otherwise, being a bit of a pessimist.

To gamble on over-dressed girls or not? Can any sort of cuddling realistically go on before choosing to gauge what is underneath? Maybe not feasible.

Percentage of girls with silicones? I would say that was low. Most girls relatively flat chested.

Percentage of girls with nose jobs? I would guess probably 60% to 70%, without doing a proper survey. Good looking nose jobs, who knows? If I can see it is a nose job very easily, that means its an ugly one, generally.

Did I say anything unrealistic, Mr. smooT hiE? I am sure a variety of views are welcome.[/QUOTE]Only around 50 girls in Thermae seems quite a bit lower than the number of girls I've seen there on an approximate 9:30 pm arrival recently. Might have been a light night alrogether.

Thermae girls are Freelancers, of course, so I think it is realistic to assume a FL's body will not be a challenge to a popular go-go dancer's body, much less the bodies of the 2-3 better bodied girls in one of the most popular all-nude (mostly) go-go bars in the world. Highly unlikely to impossible to encounter or expect such a thing. IMO. Flatter chested, certainly to be expected.

Don't know or care much about the nose jobs, but 60-70% of the 50 or so girls in Thermae having had one seems quite high. Possible though. And I would say Thermae girls might dress more conservatively than FLs who stroll the streets. But I have not been put off by the bodies of the girls I have taken there recently. In fact, I have been pleased with them. I tend to prefer good, trim, well proportioned bodies that I can see before committing, too (which is one reason I don't go to Thermae all that often, only about 4-5 times over as many months). But when I do I only chose girls who are standing, not sitting on a stool hiding what is likely an abundance of issues, and if they are either wearing very short pants, tight short skirts or form-fitting long pants.

I happened to take a girl from upstairs Mandarin last night. Got there about 9 pm and she was expecting me because I had replied to her Line messages that I would. She was a repeat for me. She was also one of their "special" girls, "show" girls or whatever they call them there. Like you, I don't consider them genuine Coyotes. Not in terms of dancing and not in terms of them only hustling lady drinks but not barfining. They barfine. But the payment to the bar is 1500 baht instead of 700 baht and not the ridiculous 3000 baht barfine I have had cited for genuine Coyotes elsewhere. In my experience there, that additional 800 baht to the bar has not felt wasted at all considering the results I've enjoyed.

Is it possible a 3000 baht barfine would provide even MORE spectacular results? Lol. I have no personal testimony to offer on that. But I doubt it since we are, IMO, talking about the difference between a genuine Coyote who rarely if ever expects to have to exchange sex for money and a "special/show" girl who does so on nearly a nightly basis.

Usually, I don't have a problem in there. But I have taken several girls from there recently, it was not very busy, and plenty of girls, though no one to write home about, so it may have been some extenuating circumstances. However, There was a whiff of desperation going on. Maybe this is the start of off-season?

I generally never agree to more than 2 k in there though made an exception for the 3 some last weekend. It's funny but my first two times with girls from BB during the winter of 2015 were lousy. I almost decided not to go again but gave it one more shot and I have been quite pleased and happy with the experience virtually every time going forward. I do try to stay clear of the girls I see in there consistently.

I was talking to one of my friends in there last week and he agreed with me about one of the girls I had a bad experience with as he had the same. However, she is still in there virtually every night pulling unsuspecting guys out for a most likely miserable time.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1880781]I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact, or girls to show some interest at Thermae, perhaps not every girl was interested. There is a trend there that girls do not go round hassling guys too much. That is just the standard. They don't want to look too brazen. There experience shows it is easier to wait for a guy to show interest.

If at Bangkok Beat, you are inundated with girls approaching you, that you had to sit on the porch. That is bad and annoying. Thermae is better. It is no flattery for girls (or LBs) to be that interested. It shows they think you might be a sucker, that can manipulated or overwhelmed, or a potential easy target.

I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.[/QUOTE]

Since I did not see many attractive girls and the ones I did see either feigned disinterest or were focused on the boys from the rising sun, I only had one drink and left for greener pastures. And they do dress pretty dowdy in there, not even sexy shorts or blouses for the most part.

But I suppose if that's your thing, you may stumble on a little gem.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1880781]I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact,

I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haven123;1880734]So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).

I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).

[/QUOTE]Here are a few suggestions. I was in BKK in December and visited these places. I found noen was as good as Ibar though.

Levels is good. Especially on the weekends. Btut can be kind of slow. A lot of older girls. But some younger gems can be found. Most girls warm up with a few drinks at Oskar, a bar / restaurant across the street first so that is a good place for a pre-party.

Mixx was very good. A nice selection of girls. I'd definitely recommend. Also some girls from CIS, Latin America, etc. Interesting place. I will definitely spend more time there.

Climaxx is just OK. I pulled a real hottie there who is a massage girl by day at Lords Massage (an upper end Massage place). So gems can be found. But overall quality of the girls is so so. Plus they charge a cover.

Insomnia is nothing likes its namesake in Patts. Huge and vacuous and I found it difficult to even find a girl I thought was mildly attractive the 2 times I went.

Hidden gem (especially if you like hip hop) there is a little hip hop club on Soi 11. It;'s in the opposite side of the street from climax. Closer to Sukhumvit. A lot of fun and some cute. Less hard core, young girls there. I think you would like it. I don't remember the name, but you can PM and I will give you more details on how to get ther.

I hope this list helps.