Kyiv

First off the easy questions…Flatwinn there is a Hyatt and a Radission in Kiev either will suit your needs both have been built within the last 4 years (the Hyatt was finished last year). If you are looking for a sure thing River Palace is the place to head for p4p girls – don’t pay more then $150 for 1-2 hours or $300 for a ‘night’. 20-30 uah (local currency) to RP from the center and 30-50uah back to your place with a girl for the taxi. Keep walking all the way to the curb to find a taxi who will give you a decent price.

Hecker, what I had said was that I was meeting 50 girls – not 50 girls from the internet. 20 I already know and 30 from online. Between the girls I know, the internet girls and girls I meet in clubs, restaurants, shopping, on the street and networking I probably ended up dating around 50-55 girls.

How many girls did I have sex with, between 20-25 (if you count BJ's - while Bill Clinton doesn't, I do), three were p4p, 60% were repeaters and 40% were new.

How much I spend on a date depends on what time of the day it is. I usually try to arrange my dates around lunch and dinner or meet just for a drink. Anywhere from $5-$200. The upper scale is usually when I am with more then one girl – I love going out on a date with two girls (when it’s sincere). I do it both in the US and in Kiev. You guys should try it sometime.

I don’t know if I mentioned it here specifically but I espouse it all the time – clubs are the worst place to meet a girl. Unless you’re only goal is to get her drunk and fuck her. Then of course it’s really the only place to go. That’s a game I don’t play, that in my eyes is what p4p is for, no fuss, no muss, and no hang over.

I have no idea why you want to know all that. Our styles are so dissimilar it’s really nothing that will ever help you. Not that I understand how I did during my last trip to Kiev would help you anyway. I think you are the one (oh sorry, it was Life) who said it’s now impossible to pick girls up on the street or in the metro. I don’t know how it’s possible not to pick up a girl on the street or in the metro in Kiev, assuming you can both understand each other. Sometimes that isn’t even important. I was standing on the balcony of my apartment overlooking Bessarabska, just chillin and enjoying the late Kiev afternoon (it was May). I saw this super hot looking girl walking on the sidewalk down below. I was just had to meet this girl and I did! I found her sitting a little further down the street on a park bench, sat next to her, engaged her in conversation and we ended up dating for the rest of that trip. The kicker was she spoke about zero English but said she understood everything I said.

Do you want to hear about the time I picked up a Moscow girl in a Kiev strip club using the bluetooth on my mobile?

Oh and I was in Kiev for 15 days, not two weeks. That last day makes all the difference. ;)

Brandon88 asked me last time I was in Kiev why I never write more about my sexual antics in Kiev. I told him to me it's boring, I've already done it. I personally don't find writing about it all that interesting to me. I'd rather talk about taxi's.




[QUOTE=Hecker]And CruiserD did not tell us what happened to him during the two week stay in Kiev. He wrote he had 50 internet contacts to meet. The questions are:

1. How many of them did he actually meet
2. How many of the ones he met did he bang
3. How much money he spent on average date
4. How fruitfull was the hunting in clubs where some people here claim that 50% of the girls are available.

I call the above real information and of value for the monger.[/QUOTE]


Ash, I’m not in Kiev right now but will be back in about a week for at least two months. I doubt I would ever live in Kiev full time. Boston, Geneva and Marbella are on my short list.

Being a cabby in NYC is what makes all this free time possible. Besides, there is an international brotherhood of cabbies. I lease my cab to a Ukrainian who drives my cab in NYC while I drive his in Kiev. I leave my cab at JFK and he leaves his at Borispil.

The non p4p (like p4p) girls have too many options now. Too many foreign professionals and well off Ukrainian/Russians. Even for the club sluts it comes down to, do I want to fuck a guy who comes for a weekend trip from London (how cliché :) ) or someone who is part of the scene. Club cliques are all about face time.

How you want to approach things all depends on what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Ash1001]Cruiser, do you actually live in Kiev these days or just make long trips there? How long do you stay on average? I assume it's weeks rather than days, based on the number of girls you date.

And - are you still doing the NYC cabbing job, or are you more or less retired from that now?

For the past couple of years I've been making weekend trips from London every couple of months or so; basically turning up with no contact info and talking to any girl in the street or in clubs who'll give me the time of day.

Initially this worked really well - particularly at 112, from where I would either take them home on the night or kiss them etc. and meet for a date the next day. On a subsequent visits I could either see them again or find someone new. I thought the week end formula was done and dusted.

But it's got a lot tougher recently and I've been doing progressively worse :( I really now think spending the time on lead generation, dating and generally building momentum over a period of time is critical. Do you agree?[/QUOTE]

IT, you used and abused MT so she stole from you, big surprise. You are lucky she didn’t cut your penis off. I’m surprised they let her in Decadance, but then again she is a world class ho and probably a good tipper (security, barmen).

Pbear, there are no tochka’s in Kiev but there are streetwalkers – YMMV.


Hedo, you don’t need 50-100 beautiful girls. At most you need one – me, I need 2-3. :). One shouldn’t confine themselves to pseudo elitist clubs because they have to be surrounded by beautiful women they will never approach or talk to.

Afterclub hot spots – Double Coffee, Yakitoria et al are great places to approach girls when they are already all loosened up. As Cruiser D has noted before, clubs are actually the worst spot to meet a girl. Anyone but 109 (who I just know I Will have a great time with) will have a hard time convincing my to go to Decadance again, unless I want to mess with the high end p4p girls and sugar babies – which I actually do like to do. I chewed through girls like that in my teens and 20’s in NYC and Miami. In Kiev it’s just amusing, but sometimes being amused is all I need. :)

[QUOTE=Hedonist]Kaif has been closed very long time ago. Which is sad, it was an OK club and girls were very approachable there. For easy girls try Radio Hall (on Naberazhnoe Shosse) or Avalon (the disco in the Avalon entertainment complex is called Azhure). Girls in this segment of clubs are easily approachable, many are students, but in terms of beauty and sophistication they are under par in comparison to those that can be found in Tsar, Barsky, and Decadence . These days the most beautiful women are in Tsar, Barsky, and Decadence.

The Double Coffee on Maidan is also a pick-up center. But again quality is pretty low.[/QUOTE]

Kiev1, if you had RTFF you could have avoided your noob experience at RP. What you posted has already been covered a few dozen times.

Here's to Banker and Traveling Male, two fellow members who will be missed in Cruiser D's Kyiv Winter Wonderland Tour 2008. For you the 2008 tour is dedicated.

I paid MT every penny she wanted and now she is writing on flirt telling me her brother wants to take my ass... Ah Ah Ah she is crazy... or the brother is gay! :(

She wanted wine, I took it, she wanted cheese ok, she wanted the waiter dress OK, she wanted $$$ ok... she wanted copies of pics she now uses on her profile ok... she knows I'm posting all and... got at least five fucks from my giving out her number. I owe money from her (not from Ikra) ;)

In Moscow Valentina is not happy to be photographed, she is to shy, but she knows what's going on so now she nearly stopped to put ads on intimcity and she never got to clubs, now she have fixed unrisky customers three-four a week. Meeting for a dinner, a nice night of sex, a good moring nailing, brakfast an all for 300 $ in Moscow... and she is not buying stupid things like MT, just inventing, wants to buy a small shop with her sister... (not lingerie or so, you know the road shop selling drinks, beer cigrettes so popular in Russia) in the city of Kursk...

When staying with me she registers at hotel, and when I book a send a photocopy of her passports, no bribes, no problems, more clever girl... I know I can even leave the money on the table (only with her or her sister Ludimilla.

By the way now she is not depending on bar clubs or risky unknown... just fixed ones (one is me everytime in Moscow at least once, sometimes two days). And she is not bribing anybody except some small money to police because of her irregular residence, so she is happy when registered in hotel with "friends". Police cant fine her!

IT

PS Two girls, two way of life, one will finish perhaps in a good way one surely bad. Guess who!

[QUOTE=It Travel]I paid MT every penny she wanted and now she is writing on flirt telling me her brother wants to take my ass... Ah Ah Ah she is crazy... or the brother is gay! :(
[/QUOTE]
She's just bitter and cold-hearted. That's what happens to hos who stay in the game too long.

She's fucked 1000s of guys. She's blown most of her earned money on pimp boyfriends, drugs or pure stupidity. They know her by first name at the health clinic where she gets her "malinki problem" taken care of every 3 weeks. She's heard a thousand promises and probably even naively believed the first 100.

Cruiser's right, you should be happy it was only your ikra and not your cock she took.

We mustn't ever forget that a ho is a ho is a ho.

I really don't see the point of seeing a ho more than once. I've seen one or two twice, but that's it. After that they are like girlfriends except you have to pay them for sex, and who needs that?

Hey IT Travel,

Are you joking with MT? We know she is your favourite and so it sounds a bit strange that you are angry with her. It seems a marketing strategy. .

Anyway, I remember my experience (about Alessia too):

1. It is possible but very low probable that a prostitute can be or become a friend too, it is a border of female mindset "if you are a customer then you are not a man for me", prostitutes always say the opposite just to keep customers;

2. Do you indeed think MT won't have a good future? I knew a girl similar to MT and now she lives together a rich man. And in the future I think she will change other rich men and she always will have a better life than the average people. .

I think this is the end of all longtime prostitutes. I see when a girl works as a prostitute for more a year, she becomes another person and she changes her behaviour in bad.

CruiserD,

If you banged 20 freebies in 15 days, we have to bow.

[quote=cruiser d]first off the easy questions…flatwinn there is a hyatt and a radission in kiev either will suit your needs both have been built within the last 4 years (the hyatt was finished last year).

if you are looking for a sure thing river palace is the place to head for p4p girls – don’t pay more then $150 for 1-2 hours or $300 for a ‘night’. 20-30 uah (local currency) to rp from the center and 30-50uah back to your place with a girl for the taxi. keep walking all the way to the curb to find a taxi who will give you a decent price. [/quote]cruiser,

thanks for the info. based on earlier reports i contacted alex, the guide mentioned a couple of pages back and he is helping us with everything. should know today if we are going to use the hotels or not. he is trying to get us to use the apartments (we need 3 rooms or flats) as the quality is supposedly better and price 1/2 what a hotel costs there. we just need descent places to stay, secure, near restaurants and high speed internet, so are open to the apartments if they can provide this.

was planning on either going to rp or have emailed with gia and vodka and all sure seem to have some very nice ladies. vodka seems to be better.

problem is that we have at most 48 hours in town then heading back out, so not a lot of time. am using this as a chance to explore the town and will try to get back when i have some time off.

thx,

ft

[QUOTE=Hecker]I disagree that 50% of girls in clubs are available. If it were so, all short time travellers to Kiev would score freebies and this does not happen. Actually it does not happen anymore since 2004. When I go to a club I hit on every hottie, so I know how high the actual chances are. I saw seldom foreigners pull girls in clubs. And looks do matter in Ukraine. You will see seldom an ugly man with a beautiful girl as it often happens in the West or in other countries like Czech Republic.

The perspective is different whether you live there or come for a short time let's say 2-3 times a year for a week. In the latter case things do not work the same way. Basically what really happens in Kiev is a number game from internet contacts. I will give an idea. Everday there are over 500 girls online in Kiev region, sometimes even more. If you send messages to some of them, let's say hot girls comprise 20% of them, you will send 100 messages. Of them 10% minimum that is 10 girls will respond. Of the 10 girls you will easily manage to get 1-2 phone numbers after 5-10 messages. You can meet these girls the same day. Of the girls you meet, 30-50% will fuck. So you can get a new girl everyday supposed you spend 2-3 hours the day in internet. This is how it works but it works for the men who stay in Kiev. Because if you are short time traveller you cannot meet the girls the same day and have to eliminate many contacts, what you foresee will not give quick results. You cannot wait. So the perspective vanishes and then you get a situation where things become more complex and you need to go out and pick up in street as well. You need to pick up in street because it will be likely that you have eliminated the wrong contacts or conditions have changed by the time you come, or girls have are outside Kiev by the time you come or they do not trust you cause you are short time traveller or the girls do not look as in photos and you have selected them based on photos etc, etc. These are problems that sb who stays in Kiev or stays more than 10 days does not face. Cause he can select, wait, choose, eliminate, do right logistics, get more than 2 dates with the same girl and a lot more things than the short time traveller. Sorry I posted this in photo section. [/QUOTE]

Hey guys, I moved this from the photo section, I just wanted to ask some of you about this post.

I have a friend who goes to Kiev and Odessa to meet women. He is in his mid to late fifties in great shape(I know him from the gym) not tall or very handsome. But anyway he swears to me that he meets girls in their twenties in Kiev and Odessa and they don’t charge him. Now I think he is a liar but I can’t prove it of course because I have never been there. I do monger mostly in Brazil so I know what girls in their twenties are mostly looking for from guys in their fifties. So what do you think is he a liar? His trips last about a week at a time.

Sangue Bon,

From my perspective, as one who is successful with most ages of local women, despite the fact that I am almost as advanced as your friend, the truth lies solely in the answer to one question.

Does he or does he not speak Russian and it must be real good Russian.

If his language skills are basic or poor, then his chances of freebies are almost zero. Then money is the only language he can truly successfully use.

If his Russian is real good, he has an excellent chance at freebies.

I know and life is good here.

[quote=sangue bon]hey guys, i moved this from the photo section, i just wanted to ask some of you about this post.

i have a friend who goes to kiev and odessa to meet women. he is in his mid to late fifties in great shape(i know him from the gym) not tall or very handsome. but anyway he swears to me that he meets girls in their twenties in kiev and odessa and they don’t charge him. now i think he is a liar but i can’t prove it of course because i have never been there. i do monger mostly in brazil so i know what girls in their twenties are mostly looking for from guys in their fifties. so what do you think is he a liar? his trips last about a week at a time.[/quote]

i agree with uke boy that it is unlikely that he could score regularly going in cold (no previous contact with the girls) and only speaking english (limiting ability to communicate effectively with a lot of girls), however nothing is impossible.

i think equally important are questions like:
* what kind of girl/how'd she look?
* how many times did he date them before scoring?
* what other things besides cash were in the package?
* how often did he actually score (fuck the chick)?
* what are his social skills/success like back home?

55+ year old guys with 20ish girls isn't an uncommon sight in ee, but usually there is some sort of "support" involved in the mix when ages differ so greatly.

his being in great shape certainly helps set him apart from others his age, but it seems unlikely he was scoring regularly. more likely he goes out every night for a week, dates 5-6 girls about 3 times each and end up banging one bland looking but nice 26-year old. that rather unimpressive story quickly becomes "i'm screwing all these 20-year old hotties in ukraine" when he starts talking about it back home. probably also a question of what he considers attractive. i've also seen a lot of pictures of people's "hot ukrainian girlfriend" and i guess beauty is relative and subjective or something, as i've rarely been overly impressed with the kind of fish they've been reeling in. perhaps they are saying the same thing about my girls. different strokes fer different folks.

still, it is possible even if it is likely that he is exaggerating. i've seen stranger things, some guys just have "it" and do very well with girls.

age differences are a factor in dating for sure, in ee as well as the rest of the world. nonetheless, there is less negative stigma attached to it in ee as for example in the us where girls don't like to date outside of their peer group, especially when they are young. many ee girls even prefer dating guys older than them for various reasons, including but not limited to the fact that older guys have more money than the local young guys. more and more however as younger ee guys get more money at an earlier age, ee girls are looking for guys more their age.

fighting the trend isn't that difficult though, especially if you can offer the girls something besides money... specifically entertainment, experience, adventure, great sex and romantic affection. they lap it up. apparently those are areas where foreign guys still offer more than most locals who seemingly quite often don't appreciate their women as much as we do.

[QUOTE=Hedonist]If you are a "white" Turk you actually would have an edge over "Westerners" here in Kiev. Stereotypically, Ukrainian girls perceive "Westerners", especially Americans, as boring, superficial, and weak (because they are too civilized for Ukrainian girls). Both Turks and Ukrainians are not European and they tend to click quite well culturally. Same goes for Greeks and Italians. However, the Turks who crowd the River Palace are the middle eastern types (think Grand Bazaar carpet sellers) and it is clear that girls prefer "Westerners" over these types. In the final analysis, who you are and how you present yourself has much more weight than your passport, especially for girls who just look for fun.[/QUOTE]It's Hedonist is right, wow, what an observation! Having been to both Kiev and Istanbul, it seems to make a good sense to me.

Guy's thanks for your great responses. Now that you've jogged my memory somewhat, I remember a few other facts about him:

I think equally important are questions like:
* what kind of girl/how'd she look? [RED] Yes this is a good question, he never offered any pictures but recently he was planning to go to Rio and he was setting up some girls to meet from the internet and he told me one just sent him a picture, I asked if I could see it and he said NO.[/RED]
* how many times did he date them before scoring?[RED] Besides ones that he had met that night in a bar or something, looks like he was finding them on the internet first and he does not speak Russian. He even told me some girls lived hours away and he flew them in to meet him. But he did not pay them for their time but I guess he did shell out a lot of money to get them there and feed them.[/RED]
* what other things besides cash were in the package? [RED] In some cases he did mention gifts for the girls children or milk money LOL [/RED]
* how often did he actually score? [RED] He doesn't tell me about his misses only his hits[/RED]
* his social skills/success back home? [RED] He's a mover and a shaker in the gym, women like to be talked to and he is a good talker.[/RED]

If he spends great amounts of money for sponsoring, everything is possible especially if he has local contacts. If not, then he most probably dates young but average looking girls.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Hey IT Travel,

Are you joking with MT? We know she is your favourite and so it sounds a bit strange that you are angry with her. It seems a marketing strategy. .

Anyway, I remember my experience (about Alessia too):

1. It is possible but very low probable that a prostitute can be or become a friend too, it is a border of female mindset "if you are a customer then you are not a man for me", prostitutes always say the opposite just to keep customers;

2. Do you indeed think MT won't have a good future? I knew a girl similar to MT and now she lives together a rich man. And in the future I think she will change other rich men and she always will have a better life than the average people. .

I think this is the end of all longtime prostitutes. I see when a girl works as a prostitute for more a year, she becomes another person and she changes her behaviour in bad.[/QUOTE]

Sorry for delay in answering, but I have to work too… not just fucking!

The problem with MT is very simple (apart stealing my Ikra)… she is very good at sex when a little drunk (let’s say a bottle of Chianti and no meal for a girl of 45 kgs!)…
Her BBBJ with CIM or COF is still nearly the state of the art (but L_olita is far better), but’s all she is is just a sex toy! And she is one of the few skinny girls (I mean well under 50 kg) I found where a guy like me, tall and around 100 kg can do real heavy sex!

Before she did anal too, now she just got the little condomed plug… and did not want more!

She can’t behave in any way sometime is arrogant or shy (depends on vodka) and is just like a spoiled 14teen… She puts all her money on stupid things like clothes fake jewels telephones (she had three!) etc etc.

If you marry a such girl you will be out of money in some months. She wants to marry a Businessman :(

My Moscow friend Valentina (and her older sister Ludmilla) are instead saving money (as I told before), in their broken English they even asked me some tips for investments. They are nearly gone from internet now, they just work on safe regular customers in hotel, nearly only all nighter. No pimps and safe (as I feel safe with them, have copy of passports…). They want to get up to 50.000 or so and they are nearly there, get back to Kursk and buy a drink/tobacco/produkty small shop to run together… They are not dreaming on a marriage (Valentina already once, Ludmilla twice). They just want to run their shop and rise up the children (they have four)

The same with L. her behaviour is that of a Lady… I’ll never go to a restaurant with MT, but I did (yeah a bar) with L. and still do with Valentina (usually we go for sushi or shahlik it depends), and I go shopping with Ludmilla.

MT do not understand that if she would be more gentle and nice with the sex she is able to do she could make 100,000 of $$ and really find a Businessman, but she is always dressed as a who**, and behave like a who**, other girls are really more normal. By the way she is now too old, I think something like 26 or 27 even if she says 24

If I do not remember wrong I red that you wanted to marry her… no problem, just ask, if you have some money she will do it, she dreams about that. It’s that the reason perhaps she was so angry about the pics now she wants a reputation, before she wanted customers, and we all know that among the readers here for sure at least 15 have fucked her! I took her 4 or 5 times in 2004-2007 and this will be last (on ground of Ikra!). In any case if I call her she will not come. A pity because when a little bit drunk at 2 am (after several sessions) you get to bed and she start her BBBJ like a vacuum cleaner with her long hair on your body… wow it’s nice!

Exactly as fucking her handcuffed and COF at the end (a pity no titfuck of course!)

I hope I answered you…

Enjoy my (my opinion) best pics of MT (by the way she uses some in her page… [url]http://flirt.com.ua/sweetmail-a5346/[/url])

My captions
01 Just arrived… as a who** as usual!

02 Already handcuffed and in sexy waiter dress, playing on the table we just started the second bottle!

03 From table to sofa… she is lathing because she see me naked, condom already on, I just take down her pants for a nice (weird) session on the sofa…

04 In the bedroom, she like posing that you do not see much of her face but you see the bush (one of the reasons I liked her I just like trimmed not shaved girls)

05 Her best view (****!)

06 Ready to please… one of the best positions and way to fuck (in both holes) a girl, unfortunately no anal, but a nice COF

07 Later in the night, no waiter costume, but still handcuffed and facialized (she was not so enthusiast of being photographed with cream on face but…)

08 Going to the bath a wonderful body… (skinny I love other types too :D)

[QUOTE=Hecker]If he spends great amounts of money for sponsoring, everything is possible especially if he has local contacts. If not, then he most probably dates young but average looking girls.[/QUOTE]Average looking girls.

As a German, and in similar age as the special guy you are discussing here, I totally have to agree to the opinion stated here.

However, because I am not spending great amounts of money, I have to date average looking girls, too.

BUT: "Average" to the standards I am used to see here in UA.

And this "average" is far above what I see in Germany or in the USA (besides Hollywood).

So I am quite happy with this situation, and probably, this special guy, too.

Besides that, I sponsored one special girl from UA for a long time. In the beginning, her "looks were below average". (But I really liked her).

After a few months, with reasonable foodstuff, better clothes, hairdresser, cosmetics, stable and solid lifestyle etc. she was "well above average".

Even the locals now started to be really interested in her.

The girls here in UA or in Russia can make quite a lot out of themselves with some "investments".

And the regular monthly investments can be just a few hundreds of $, in case we are not talking about Kiev.

8 days 7 nights

Day one and two.

Two nights with Valeria (21, 160 and 45 or so) and Oksana (23, 165 and 50 English speaking) a nice semi lesbian couple, nothing exceptional, but good, nice, well educated and stunningly cheap 300 USD + dinner for both. Got them from Hecker, unfortunately they did not do all…

The best was surely when Valeria was laying on me, cock inside, kissing, and Oksana was taking care of my balls making a tongue bath to them… got the orgasm without that Valeria moved… Oksana is a nice licker (covered) and Valeria is perfect at cow girl… the first evening she come with dying hot pants and white boots, sometimes I really like when whor** are dressed like who***!

Both have very very nice bodies and 5-6 rated faces, but Valeria (a brunette) is really getting you hard!

Total damage for Valeria and Oksana:
Two nights at 300 $ each (for both!)
Two Cialis ;) at 20 $ each
Two dinner for three at approx 400 Grivnas each (one sushi and one BBQ style)

Day Three and Four
Two nights and two days with Inga (she just went home for taking some dresses and for a university lesson). I got in touch via flirt… simply a pig, just filled 20 now. Cow girl with an anal vibrator! And to Arena (meeting a friend he will laugh here and answer if he wants) plugged (anally!).

Nice girl, always wet and horny… loving to be tooled in any hole!

She was doing everything and wanted to be portrayed too! (I will post more pics in Anal section!). Still nice and naive and rock hard tits! Unfortunately she got her period at the end of the second day! :(

Total damage for Inga:
A perfume at 40 €
Two days and niche with cum swallowing :D at 400 USD each.
Two Cialis at 20 $ each
Jacuzzi salts for 250 Grivnas
We ate home, because her friends in the university do not know, and the pics on her page on flirt are not real…

Day Five

Miss U.

She is still nice and a good fuck (ask the friend who I hope will answer)… a little bit strange. But soft and willing and always joking and laughing! But it’s she that fucks you… the body is for heavy duty! (Anal too)

Total damage
She loves Cavalli, as all UA girls, so on Sales I buy lots of things in Italy ;), a nice bag 80 €
A nice romantic dinner 500 Grivnas (really good!)
I jumped over Cialis (one every 24 hours is too much! I started to get some muscle pain)

Day Six

Met Ira at Mandarin around noon, at midnight she was on the bed, two pillows under her popka and I was making a nice **** tasting… real pink (like Valentina!). She is a real beauty (you can se the pics), just normal sex including all, really tight in both holes! And she did also BBBJ with CIM and… swallowed too! I think I could fell in love with her. She missed my friend at Arena (in the afternoon) for 10 minutes… now he can see the pics!
The best GFE up to today (apart one in the old Russia around 1992-3 where I did two sisters for a couple of days for 200 USD for two, two days! One 18 the other 20… mhhh unfortunately no digital!).

Total Damage
A present (Cavalli bag) 80 €
Cialis 20 $
Drinks at Arena (twice) 150 Grivnas
Home dining with Ikra and Salmon 150 USD

Day Seven

Ira had to go otherwise…. Inga was in period, and the two pigs where busy… so phoned the MT she said 200 for two hours… and I said you are crazy. I said I had nice food and wine… and wanted her all the night…. So at the end if I gave a copy of nice pics on a USB key (5€) she would have been there for 300 $ at 9 pm OK I said I left at 8 the time for a nice Jacuzzi… Then she phoned and said will come at 11 pm (she surely got a qwikie…) but ok… She phoned at 11.05 say she was out of the door! OK
Nice food, nice photos nice sex… the two best moments was surely the heavy fucking handcuffed in the bed (see the pics) with final COF, and a real good BBBJ (she was really a little bit drunk) with CIM, I think she swallowed, because she did not even go to the toiled, an the bed was dry! But when the pig got out of being drunk… stole my Ikra!

Total Damage
300 $ from 11 pm to 10 am
Cialis 20 $
Waiter dress 60 € at Beate Uhse
Some food from the fridge
AND 500 grams OF BELUGA! Approx 400 €!!! :(

So these where my days in Kiev, I met also other girls (at bars making rests) but these where the fucked ones…

Of course Flight/Transportation/Home is not included it depends on your standard…

Total Damage for an unforgettable week… 2.800 USD including drinks and a full stocked fridge… Did not count but…
Valeria (2 holes, no Anal)
Oksana (2 holes no Anal)
Inga (3 holes including BBBJ)
Miss U. (2 holes, she do not even BJ)
Ira (same as Inga all round)
MT (2 holes, including BBBJ, wanted to try a plug but she said next time….)

Surely at least 30-35 shots…

My dick looked really happy and soft! Soon I’ll leave for Moldova so….