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[QUOTE=Mongering1;2724767]I'll be arriving in Pattaya in a couple weeks and staying for a few weeks. I have stayed at Flipper Lodge previously and it was just fine, but I'm open for recommendations.[/QUOTE]I would change and look for a place on Soi Buakhao. That Flipper Lodge area ain't what it used to be. I had a buddy that stayed at Sunshine a few weeks back. He figured the area would be the same as before. Nope. It is pretty much deserted.
[QUOTE=Mongering1;2724767]The things I'd like to do include my first time SCUBA diving, [/QUOTE]I certainly would not recommend doing your first time (don't know if you are getting the Open Water certification or just doing a discovery dive) in Pattaya unless they will be taking you out to Sattahip to teach you. The last time I got in the water at Pattaya Beach was 11 years ago getting my nitrox certification. You could not see your own hand in front of your face. We went down and came right back up. 12 years ago I got my Advanced in Pattaya and I think we did everything in Sattahip for those 2 or 3 days.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2724734]That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.[/QUOTE]I agree. I remember sitting outside Alcatraz about ten years ago (the bar on Walking Street, not the prison) and being shocked when two Indian customers got turned away by security who pointed at a sign on the door that said 'No Indians'. My friend told me it was because Indian customers had a reputation for not buying drinks and the girls would complain they'd go with Indian customers and their friends would be waiting in the room expecting a freebie. I can also remember being in Sabai Dee and, no joke, a minibus-load of about ten Indian guys arrived and one of them tried to negotiate a hefty group discount with the papasan. He didn't get very far.
But India has the fastest growing economy in the world and there are a lot of very rich Indian people.
Earlier this year I saw six girls all sat around an Indian man in Moonlight, having shots from a bottle of sang som he'd bought. Without wanting to be unkind I think it's fair to say he fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on his way down. He was fat, sweaty and had some kind of deformity with his mouth. Ten years ago, he would have been invisible to the girls but here he was splashing the cash. He may as well have been Brad Pitt.
[QUOTE=JizzyB;2724866]I was baffled to see super hot chicks go with fat-ass, ugly uncle types men.[/QUOTE]The biggest aphrodisiac for Thai bar girls is money.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2724734]Your information is outdated. It was true before Covid, but things have changed.
Now Indian men represent 50% of Walking Street customers.
Many young Thai ladies go with Indian men.
That isn't to say that there are no Cheap Charlie Indians, but they are being crowded out by Indians who spend money.[/QUOTE]Just watching any selection of those walking videos on youtube the difference from pre-covid is noticeable- the great majority are Indians.
After last night with 2 ladies rolling around the bed, I just had one lady come over for drinks today, my regular massage lady. After polishing off 3 bottles of wine, she started massaging my nether regions, and we were soon on the bed.
She is 42, but well proportioned, and was horny as can be, or a very good faker. And sweaty. Really sweaty, despite the aircon.
No BJ though, which is unusual for a massage lady.
Afterwards, I was ready to put her in my regular rotation, but she asked for 500 baht extra.
Now she is gone, and I have a short time to get ready for the lady coming tonight.
Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.
4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.
The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!
1000's of ladies to choose from!
The big downer for me is bars insisting on music at ear bursting levels. Impossible to talk to provider or negotiate easily!
I measured the volume in several bars at 105 dB with the live bands even louder.
Memo to bar owners. More noise does not make your bar more attractive.
Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.
India is a 4500 year old country built on Hinduism. The society was extremely open sexually as you can see from Kamasutra and ancient sculptures. The leader of the dynasty / family used to be elderly women and the system was matriarchal. Unfortunately the 400 years of Islamic invasion from 12th to 16th Century (the dark ages of India) changed the social fabric of society. The regression and the oppression comes from that. India need about 3 generations (around 100 years) to get rid of it.
[QUOTE=ZenMinded1;2724792]So many guys don't get it due to lack of reference info. For a country which invented the Kama Sutra, India is so sexually opressed that guys feel privileged just to see a naked titty. Bring that closer to a guy's dick and he's done in 30 seconds. In Dubai all Indians get discounts from streetwalkers because they know it's a quick job.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2724953]I agree. I remember sitting outside Alcatraz about ten years ago (the bar on Walking Street, not the prison) and being shocked when two Indian customers got turned away by security who pointed at a sign on the door that said 'No Indians'. My friend told me it was because Indian customers had a reputation for not buying drinks and the girls would complain they'd go with Indian customers and their friends would be waiting in the room expecting a freebie. I can also remember being in Sabai Dee and, no joke, a minibus-load of about ten Indian guys arrived and one of them tried to negotiate a hefty group discount with the papasan. He didn't get very far.
But India has the fastest growing economy in the world and there are a lot of very rich Indian people.
Earlier this year I saw six girls all sat around an Indian man in Moonlight, having shots from a bottle of sang som he'd bought. Without wanting to be unkind I think it's fair to say he fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on his way down. He was fat, sweaty and had some kind of deformity with his mouth. Ten years ago, he would have been invisible to the girls but here he was splashing the cash. He may as well have been Brad Pitt.
The biggest aphrodisiac for Thai bar girls is money.[/QUOTE]For the life of me. Rich Indians think Walking Street Pattay is the place to be?
Don't they research before traveling.
Hey Gents,
Me and 2 close friends are planning a stag trip for Nov this year. It'll be our first time in Thailand. We're thinking of doing 5 days in Pattaya and 4 Days in Bangkok. The main objective is drinks, ladies, A bit of honest sight seeing with some are&are in between. Wondering if this is a good time split for the cities or if I should adjust our time in one of the locations. Thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2724789]Last I heard, Bamboo Bar is closed.[/QUOTE]Bamboo hasn't been open for 2. 5 years!
[QUOTE=Smyke;2725122]Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.
4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.
The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!
1000's of ladies to choose from!
Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.[/QUOTE]This sounds very promising indeed. Never heard of Treetown, is this where the outdoor clothing market was or is just as the road esses towards the end of Soi Boukhow?
Is this a positive or negative development in your opinion if you say there are many girls then this appears very good indeed.
[QUOTE=AfAsia;2725422]This sounds very promising indeed. Never heard of Treetown, is this where the outdoor clothing market was or is just as the road esses towards the end of Soi Boukhow?
[/QUOTE]TreeTown is where soi meda in Thailand was. [URL]https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Tree[/URL]+Town+NightMarket / at 12.9314377,100.8852211,17.85 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x31029608 da106 a2 f:0 xe940362 a74 cbe447!8 m2!3 d12.9310232!4 d100.8859312.
Hey Guy's,
Back in Pattaya after a long absence. I've gotten lazy in my old age (60) and especially spoiled after living in Colombia.
Any recommendations on walk in full service places? Prefer day time or early evening. Pick a girl have some fun and pay for damages.
Colombia will ruin you for that. Beautiful sweet woman, walk in get a presentation, pick one go have fun for as long as you want and prices are on the board. Inexpensive to begin with and discounted the longer you stay. What a country. LOL.
Prefer easy over games and bar fines and bringing someone back to my room.
Thanks for any advice.
Cheers.
Sky.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2724252]If you knew the sexual histories of the ladies, you might not fuck them even with a condom.
I was drinking with one lady who told me she went with 6 Indian men in one session. Talk about killing the vibe.[/QUOTE]To make things worse I am told that Indians have very big dicks.
[QUOTE=BenBirdwell;2723879]Yep. I hardly ever bareback out here and I caught a mean case of the clap from a gogo girl. When I messaged her about it. She was pretty nonchalant about it and says it happens.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for you it was not of the antibiotic resistant variety. That can keep you off poontang for weeks.