Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=MwenByen;2938938]Based upon your race, ethnicity and looks. So here's the thing I had BBFS with 90% of the Dominicans and 0% Haitian women and this includes the infamous light skinned DR women! Matter of fact I got some BS going on where several of them are accusing me of getting them pregnant. That's only an extortion scam simply put. LT is normally a ripoff you fuck only once and it's you and the chick laying up in the bed looking at tv or possibly cuddling depending on how she feels about you. There's no 15 min option there's only an hour option and a all night option. The hour option is not guaranteed it's only 1 pop and a lot of chicks rush I only had one rushed session and it was bare and. The most highest BBFS price I got was $90. Like I said your mileage may vary significantly in this country. BBJ seems to come with everything service I had.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to reply. This is much needed information, every location is different and I was starting to think I was wasting my time with this trip. Did you ask for extra services upfront or did it happen organically? I'm eager to see what happens and report back. I doubt I have a 90% success rate, lets see should be fun at the very least. Also is it true you shouldn't use the ATM in Sosua? I never had a problem using the ATM in other latin countries.

BBJ always happened automatically as far as BBFS I had to request it 60% of the times while the other 40% the chica informed me she offered it. I always use the ATM I never carry cash to the DR. The reasons why people say don't use the ATM, it's because they give a terrible exchange rate with a high fee it's normally less costly to use a debit card than a credit card. The highest fee I paid for an ATM service was at New Garden Inn I think it was $27! But they have banks everywhere, the locals knows that the Americans want to avoid the ATM exchange rate and carry thousands of dollars on them that's why the give you a higher price for dollars service than pesos. And also when you turn your back in your hotel most girls be searching for your cash. Never exchange money in the streets you're literally asking for trouble.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;2939120]Thanks for taking the time to reply. This is much needed information, every location is different and I was starting to think I was wasting my time with this trip. Did you ask for extra services upfront or did it happen organically? I'm eager to see what happens and report back. I doubt I have a 90% success rate, lets see should be fun at the very least. Also is it true you shouldn't use the ATM in Sosua? I never had a problem using the ATM in other latin countries.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;2939120]Thanks for taking the time to reply. This is much needed information, every location is different and I was starting to think I was wasting my time with this trip. Did you ask for extra services upfront or did it happen organically? I'm eager to see what happens and report back. I doubt I have a 90% success rate, lets see should be fun at the very least. Also is it true you shouldn't use the ATM in Sosua? I never had a problem using the ATM in other latin countries.[/QUOTE]I have used ATMs in Sosua without a problem for years, but for safety, I only use the ones at actual bank locations.

I have also used credit cards in emergencies at the large national supermarkets and pharmacies without issue, but outside of those, there's a good likelihood of a scam.

It's not the loss of money that's the real issue, as banks will make good any fraudulent use if promptly reported. It's the difficulty in getting a replacement card, if it gets compromised.

When traveling, I carry at least 3 different cards, in case of loss or machine fuck ups.

Its my first night and I already walked around the strip a few times. Took a while to get whatsapp right. I saw several beautiful girls, but from what I'm told its dead here for being a Saturday night. Anyway got called disgusting already for requesting natural services. Oh well.

Fellas,

I just returned from a great trip to the Su. I will share that my work lends itself to working abroad which allows me to work / attend meetings in the mornings and go to the beach / pool in the afternoon. If I didn't have work to occupy 2-3 hours of my day, I couldn't stay in the Su for 6 days.

Notes, comments, and opinions are as follows:

Hotel: New Garden. Free breakfast, close to the beach, reasonably priced, great wifi, private pool, and walkable to everything. I stay in the back building as it's more modern.

Tipping. I've mentioned this in the past; however, please note all restaurants / bars charge a 10% service fee. They call it "Propina".

Dr Rosen. I walked the main drag 2-3 x a day from 1800 to 2100 with the sole purpose of scouting talent to report and I saw nothing above a 5-6. IMO, many were well below such. In fairness, my style in ladies may differ greatly from most folks who travel to the Su. For added context, I typically seek those that are 5'6, 110-120 lbs with small asses, (spinner style). I contend the ladies on the street in the Su are quite hardened, not that attractive or appealing, and represent too much risk for my liking. Don't get me wrong. I have lived in 7 countries and have pulled in more than my fair share from the street; however, just not in the Su.

Underground. I will share that I did notice additional police activity as LEO was certainly harassing the ladies. However, not to fear as these chicks are a creative bunch. They now sit in cars off of Dr Rosen and "cat-call" the passer-bys (aka victims). I was waved / called 2 x from inside a parked car before I just stopped and asked what's the deal. This is now yet another approach to attracting clients and not LEO.

Tinder. As I have stated a few times on this site, Tinder by far has worked wonders for me in the Su. Further, it suits my style as I'm not a smoker or a big drinker. However, I always meet them at a nearby restaurant, never at my hotel for the first meeting. Many will ask what hotel and I always state another one until we meet. I'm all about "eyes on target". Yes, another risk mitigation strategy.

I usually activate my account about a week ahead of my trip and set the location to Sosua. After a couple of days of reviewing profiles, texting, etc; I found 2 very suitable college chicks (21 and 23) from Puerto Plata looking for tuition money. Initially, I was highly skeptical of their stated motivation as I thought it was a new "storyline"; however, after seeing textbooks, college IDs, work papers, etc, I was moderately convinced. Price 4. 5 each. I'll share that setting up an account is not hard: 1) grab a prepaid VISA from any grocery store, the / l the app on a burner phone, buy a 1-month subscription and off you go.

Disclaimer: I am not an employee nor do I receive any compensation from the company.

Burner Phone. I travel quite a bit internationally so I am a huge fan of burners; yes, risk management. Buy local SIM, Load WhatsApp, Google Translate with downloaded languages, Google Maps, and currency calc. You are set!!

As I stated before departure, Sosua is very much a "transactional environment. They have something to sell and we have cash to buy. I was in the Su for 6 days this past April and I saw no appreciable change compared to this trip.

N_R.

[QUOTE=Oakie;2939226]I have used ATMs in Sosua without a problem for years, but for safety, I only use the ones at actual bank locations.

I have also used credit cards in emergencies at the large national supermarkets and pharmacies without issue, but outside of those, there's a good likelihood of a scam.

It's not the loss of money that's the real issue, as banks will make good any fraudulent use if promptly reported. It's the difficulty in getting a replacement card if it gets compromised.

When traveling, I carry at least 3 different cards, in case of loss or machine fuck ups.[/QUOTE]Fellas,

I neglected to add this to my report. Popular Bank has changed its ATM disbursement policy. No withdrawals over $100 (5 K). I tried two different bank cards and no success. This past April, I was able to withdraw 20,000 at a time. Not so anymore. I thought there was something wrong with my card / machine, so I went inside the branch and was told there has been a policy change. Note: I use Chas Schwab for international cash withdrawals as the fees are 100% reimbursable as I do not like to use my everyday bank for such (too much risk). So I just pulled 2-3 transactions back to back.

As mentioned above, completely agree that you need 2-3 options to withdraw cash. Having lived / traveled abroad extensively, I can't impress enough the old adage "cash is king". I always bring $700-$1,000 in 100's, however, I only use it as a fallback. I rely on Chas Schwab first and I have another account as my backup. Too much shit can go wrong in foreign countries.

N_R.

[QUOTE=Nite_Runner;2940245]As I stated before departure, Sosua is very much a "transactional environment. They have something to sell and we have cash to buy. I was in the Su for 6 days this past April and I saw no appreciable change compared to this trip..[/QUOTE]Yo good report. Was wondering did you ever have a chance to go to the beach and try to scout talent there? You can come up on some hidden gems especially during the middle of the week when its generally slow.

I have been here a few days now and I agree with what everyone has said. Sosua has its ups and downs. When you walk by the girls call out to you and grab you. And I really mean grab not a light touch, some of these girls are strong. The best way I have found to run them off quick is to tell them you only have $2500, then watch them run away. I have never been grabbed by a girl I was interested in, I always have to chase them down. Also the people talking about $2-3 k, maybe you are some marc anthony rico suave type bc it is not happening. I have talked to a lot of girls, some even talk about 6 mil. They do not care about negotiating or if you walk away. This trip has been a bit different for me bc it seems like everything in this area is priced to Americans. I found things much cheaper in Colombia just this past March. So far I'm at 3 chicks, 2 bbj 1 no BJ, 2 CFS 1 bbfscip.

I am starting to hate this shit hole country more and more each day. Too much shit to piss me off. I can not walk down the street with out being hurassed every five fucking seconds to buy some shit I don't want or donate money to some beggar. Then I get to the ATM and none of them want to work for internationals so you have to go in the bank and they won't accept a passport card they want the full passport which of course is in the hotel. So I have to go all the way back to the hotel pass more beggars and street hustlers to get my passport amd pray a withdrawal works all of which in Spanish a language I am not good at. Wish me luck. Fuck this place bring cash.

Here's a few pointers on things that work for me.

When I go I always bring cash. Besides my room cost I bring 100 dollars cash in new crisp 100's for food and fun for every day I will be there plus an extra 500 just in case. I change my money in the hotel reception. Its easy and safe. I'm fine with getting a slightly less rate in exchange for the safety and convenience. For example when I was there the hotel gave me 58 pesos per dollar. Yes I could have gone out and hunted around for 59 but it just wasn't worth it to me. Normally when out on the street I keep about 3000 pesos on me and keep 5000 in my safe. I will change 100 dollar bill roughly once a day just depending on what I'm spending that day. I keep 100 pesos in my back pocket in case I see one of my ex chicas and feel like helping her out. That used to be the standard for dame algo but with inflation it has actually now gone to 200 pesos LOL.

I do not engage with any of the beggars or street hustlers or moto drivers etc. The worst thing you can do is stop and talk to them. Simply keep on walking shake your head no, say no gracias and give them a dismissive hand wave. They will quickly stop bothering you.

Same thing with the aggressive girls. Don't let them get close to you because they will try and pickpocket you.

I don't speak Spanish very well so I can't run game in conversation. My strategy is always the same. If I see a girl I like I get her wassa and then start a conversation. This is where your game comes in. Chat with her check the vibes. This is where me personally I treat them like a human. If you don't have any game then yes this part is all pointless. But it works for me. The discussion will naturally flow into her asking to come over. Now you can discuss exactly what you want and pricing. Again you need to keep tabs on the vibes throughout this process. Either they are there or not. If you don't feel comfortable just cut it off.

I don't think throwing out low numbers on the street is a good strategy. These girls all talk and you will be branded as a cheap gringo very quickly.

There is always risk involved but sometimes you pay a lot and get good service. Sometimes you pay a lot and get bad service. Sometimes you pay little and get great service. There's no set owners manual for Sosua.

Again these are things that work for me and might not be for everyone. Just giving my take.

[QUOTE=SeizeTheDay;2940397]I am starting to hate this shit hole country more and more each day. Too much shit to piss me off. I can not walk down the street with out being hurassed every five fucking seconds to buy some shit I don't want or donate money to some beggar. Then I get to the ATM and none of them want to work for internationals so you have to go in the bank and they won't accept a passport card they want the full passport which of course is in the hotel. So I have to go all the way back to the hotel pass more beggars and street hustlers to get my passport amd pray a withdrawal works all of which in Spanish a language I am not good at. Wish me luck. Fuck this place bring cash.[/QUOTE]Son, have a seat. Uncle Quinn is going to throw you a bone. First, you have to understand what Sosua is. This is an open-air market. The girls are here to sell, and you're here to buy. They travel from all over the island to get here, some in groups, others solo. Some are regulars, while others are semis coming up for a weekend. Then you have the Haitian beauties who are on constant alert from getting deported, especially right now. These girls stay in places where you wouldn't want to lay your head down at night. They're little holes in the wall with minimal sanitation. Just ask me how I know. That said, you hold all the cards. You think these girls want to stand out in that hot sun all day, or working their wares on the street till midnight just to go back empty-handed to that little sweat box of a hovel? Of course not.

Second, you have to know what you want. That seems like a no-brainer, but you'd be surprised at how many guys go there looking for light-skinned spinners. They exist, but that's an appetizer, not the main course. Those guys should stick to SEA because they're in the wrong place. Sosua and the DR in general is about ass, I mean real ass, the kind that bounces back. If you don't believe me, just head over to Baileys and you'll see more BBLs in one place than you've ever seen in your life. Personally, I like big natural asses; the place has a good combo of both.

Third, remember where you are. This is not the US, Canada, or Europe where you see a lot of feminism. Here, and all throughout the tropics, the girls are feminine. That's a big difference. Latin America is a machismo culture, that just how it is. So, you need to act accordingly, or these girls will take advantage of you. Treat them well, but take charge of the situation. Read previous posts on this board. There's a lot of great info. It won't take long before you figure out who gives good advice and who doesn't.

Here you are the guy with the money they're looking for and a nice, air-conditioned room. They'd rather be there than out on the street or beach. Stay away from online. You'll pay more and you don't know exactly what you're getting. Do you speak Spanish? It doesn't have to be perfect, just manageable. It'll help in negotiating. You see a girl you like just yell out "Morena" and wave her over. When she comes over just lay it down. Give her a compliment, make her feel good, and tell her to come have a drink with you. From there you can make small talk (name, age, where she's from, if she has kids, ect). That's when you tell her what you want and what you'll pay. Read that sentence again. Never ask "how much?" Afterward she might counter with another amount. You can dicker a little but have a threshold line. You don't have to pay those ridiculous prices. Once you're both on the same page, finish your drink and go to pound town or get her number. It's that simple. I was just there and if you read my previous posts, you know what I was paying. I'm in good shape, but it's not like I have a modeling contract. It's about presentation and confidence. This stuff isn't hard, so don't over think it.

If some chicks are grabbing you and you're not feeling them, just smile and say, "no gracias". Don't let them maul you. Start being more assertive and confident and watch what happens. Hey man, you're on vacation. This is your time and money. Make the most of it. Talk with people too. You'd be amazed at where some conversations can lead. Also, be careful with bbfscip. Besides the usual things you can catch, some girls like to use that as entrapment. Plus, don't let the little stuff get you down. Beggars are everywhere. Just keep walking. Use the ATM at Banco Popular. I think they recently changed the max to a hundred bucks a withdrawal. If you try to get more, the card won't work. That happened to me, but 100 worked just fine. And, you have to remember this is a learning experience. You think the vets on this forum started out that way? Find your groove and stay upbeat. Sosua is what you make of it. All right, now you owe me a shot of Mama Juana for writing this long ass post. Go out and make us proud, more importantly, make great memories for yourself.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2940262]Yo good report. Was wondering did you ever have a chance to go to the beach and try to scout talent there? You can come up on some hidden gems especially during the middle of the week when its generally slow.[/QUOTE]Coolie,

Great tip as I was completely unaware of such. I'm glad you said "mid-week" and not Sunday. The beaches are mobbed Sunday afternoon / night. I'll add it to the list for my next "exploration" for talent.

N_R.

[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2940418]Son, have a seat. Uncle Quinn is going to throw you a bone. First, you have to understand what Sosua is. This is an open-air market. The girls are here to sell, and you're here to buy. They travel from all over the island to get here, some in groups, others solo. Some are regulars, while others are semis coming up for a weekend. Then you have the Haitian beauties who are on constant alert from getting deported, especially right now. These girls stay in places where you wouldn't want to lay your head down at night. They're little holes in the wall with minimal sanitation. Just ask me how I know. That said, you hold all the cards. You think these girls want to stand out in that hot sun all day, or working their wares on the street till midnight just to go back empty-handed to that little sweat box of a hovel? Of course not.

Second, you have to know what you want. That seems like a no-brainer, but you'd be surprised at how many guys go there looking for light-skinned spinners. They exist, but that's an appetizer, not the main course. Those guys should stick to SEA because they're in the wrong place. Sosua and the DR in general is about ass, I mean real ass, the kind that bounces back. If you don't believe me, just head over to Baileys and you'll see more BBLs in one place than you've ever seen in your life. Personally, I like big natural asses; the place has a good combo of both.

Third, remember where you are. This is not the US, Canada, or Europe where you see a lot of feminism. Here, and all throughout the tropics, the girls are feminine. That's a big difference. Latin America is a machismo culture, that just how it is. So, you need to act accordingly, or these girls will take advantage of you. Treat them well, but take charge of the situation. Read previous posts on this board. There's a lot of great info. It won't take long before you figure out who gives good advice and who doesn't.

Here you are the guy with the money they're looking for and a nice, air-conditioned room. They'd rather be there than out on the street or beach. Stay away from online. You'll pay more and you don't know exactly what you're getting. Do you speak Spanish? It doesn't have to be perfect, just manageable. It'll help in negotiating. You see a girl you like just yell out "Morena" and wave her over. When she comes over just lay it down. Give her a compliment, make her feel good, and tell her to come have a drink with you. From there you can make small talk (name, age, where she's from, if she has kids, ect). That's when you tell her what you want and what you'll pay. Read that sentence again. Never ask "how much?" Afterward she might counter with another amount. You can dicker a little but have a threshold line. You don't have to pay those ridiculous prices. Once you're both on the same page, finish your drink and go to pound town or get her number. It's that simple. I was just there and if you read my previous posts, you know what I was paying. I'm in good shape, but it's not like I have a modeling contract. It's about presentation and confidence. This stuff isn't hard, so don't over think it.

If some chicks are grabbing you and you're not feeling them, just smile and say, "no gracias". Don't let them maul you. Start being more assertive and confident and watch what happens. Hey man, you're on vacation. This is your time and money. Make the most of it. Talk with people too. You'd be amazed at where some conversations can lead. Also, be careful with bbfscip. Besides the usual things you can catch, some girls like to use that as entrapment. Plus, don't let the little stuff get you down. Beggars are everywhere. Just keep walking. Use the ATM at Banco Popular. I think they recently changed the max to a hundred bucks a withdrawal. If you try to get more, the card won't work. That happened to me, but 100 worked just fine. And, you have to remember this is a learning experience. You think the vets on this forum started out that way? Find your groove and stay upbeat. Sosua is what you make of it. All right, now you owe me a shot of Mama Juana for writing this long ass post. Go out and make us proud, more importantly, make great memories for yourself.[/QUOTE]My Man,

Uncle Q speaks the truth. I am a middle-aged, balding white guy from South with little to no "game" or Spanish speaking skills. If I can do it, anyone can do it. There is plenty to be had in the Su, it just depends on what you want. As I mentioned in my earlier report, I am more into "spinners"; however, I am certainly in the minority as many guys head to Bailey's (AKA: the land of big asses) as that is their preference. This is not to say that there aren't other "flavors" available as there certainly are. You just have to be patient, keep a smile on your face, and do not get frustrated.

Let me ask, have you tried speaking to some of the old-timers (Ex-Pats) hanging out on Dr Rosen? I traveled to the Su 10 x and I have never been turned down when I have asked for advice on food, hotels, ATMs, women, etc.

I'll also share that you may want to pull my earlier posts as I gave very detailed comments / notes on the Su that may be of interest. One of which is befriending the hotel security guards. If I am at a new place, I usually slip them $10 and hit them up for basic info on the area or more importantly, if they see me with someone who is "trouble", please tell me ahead of time. These peeps can be your very best mechanism for info and further, they don't want any problems from pissy chicks either.

Please heed Uncle Qs advice as he has provided some very good nuggets.

N_R.

For anyone that remembers Passions, is there currently any place similar to it in Sosua? I used to love Passions (and to a lesser extent Caribbean Mens Paradise). My last trip to Sosua was in 2013 shortly before it was closed and I'm thinking about a long overdue return.

Iron Quin nailed how to roll in Sosua. Very simple a buffet of willing women. For the guy missing passion and cmp they are gone and their owners jailed for a while.