Thanks TomasB and Uncle V!
I think I have all the info I need now for my few nights in BKK. I will file a report with my feedback / experience next week. Thanks a million!
Suttisan and Hwai Kwang areas
Is there anything cheap or interesting in these areas? I know that this is not far from where a lot of the high-end soapies are on Ratchadapisek, but I'm wondering if there is anything "cheap" around there? Of course I mean relatively cheap - say 1,000-1,500 baht or so - as there isn't anything genuinely cheap in Bangkok anymore.
The Cowboy is Dying? Nana Too?
I look for extra pretty girls with good bodies, for middle prices, not the cheapest. I don't care where the girls come from, if they fit my spec. Anywhere I find a girl that really appeals and suits me on the bed, I add her to my regular list. Could even be from Tulip, if I could find any girl slimmish and pretty enough.
Crazy House has been a successful bar despite a big decline in the overall quality of their girls since 3 years ago. Tuesday was absolutely packed out with many customers unable to find a seat. Why, I don't know. Thursday was much more quite due to the midnight closing time before the Friday religious holiday. They say CH will be open Friday night with most bars closed. One girl told me she won't come to work, scared will be packed out again, with other bars closed.
Did my usual very slow walk past many bars, looking for someone really stunning. One Coyote at Sahara looked extra good. Surprisingly one girl outside Toy Bar had a very pretty face but I could not see her body properly as she was sitting. Will investigate further another time. Spice girls appeared to have an obvious LB Coyote. Deja Vu also known to have odd LB. Plenty of bars had one or two quite pretty girls out front, but not stunning. Baccara and Sharks did not have any really good lookers out front, IMHO. Mostly older average looking girls outside Baccara. Looked inside Rawhide. Rawhide has 15 Coyotes as well as gogo girls now. Why the fuck? Anything to get some business for a bar not doing well. Maybe only way to get some relatively pretty girls in? Had to admit about 3 of the Coyotes passed my tough looks test. Very few of them could dance Coyote style, and certainly not experts. Expert Coyotes would not be in Rawhide, right? Apparently Long Gun also has Coyotes now. New pretty Coyote in Rawhide, Nut, told me she earned 300 Baht per day in a factory. Now comes to be a Coyote for 500 Baht per day, plus 60 Baht drink commissions. I guess she doesn't have to fuck unless she wants to. I did not ask about BFs. However obviously is earning significantly better than at the factory.
Doll House has them too. Cowboy2 had a very ordinary looking set of Coyotes, IMHO. Can be barfined, but not worth the extra money, mostly. Then there are the Arab bars Rio, Spice Girls, Sahara, Midnite, Kiss, Deja Vu. Did I make any mistakes on that list? I assume they are all his bars but may be wrong. I don't like them generally. Too flamboyantly up market. Expensive drinks. Weak entertainment.
Business is down in the bars. Cowboy seems to be being taken over by Coyotes and gradual creep in of LBs as well. Several Nana bars have had Coyotes in recent times as well.
Yet Baccara and Crazy House have been very successful with no LBs and no Coyotes. So why not copy that approach. Crazy House was very smart. They paid girls higher salaries than elsewhere, but with fines for lateness and non attendance, so many of the pretty girls don't actually receive their salary. They started up with 15 to 20 stunning girls that pulled customers, and so the bar grew quickly. Nudity with good bodies was the answer. The gogo girls at Rawhide were a generally ugly lot, not to same standard as CH, even though CH line up is currently weak IMHO. Big rise in nose jobs and boob jobs, drop in the number of pretty faced girls, however CH is still successful. Its boring for me though if my favorite girls do not show up. I don't need to ogle 50 bald pussies any more. Most look much the same, although some have a bit of fuzz not totally shaved. However I do much prefer to see girls nude than clothed, assuming they have a good body, and quite a few do. I especially hate girls to have bras on. That is a severe problem with Coyotes. Multi-levels of bras hide their tits.
Last night I was fooled, a big build blonde Farang girl came into CH. Apparently well known. Playing up to the girls. My girl Nikki knows her. As she looked rather masculine, I thought that this is a Farang Tomboy. Nikki says I am wrong and that the Farang "girl" is a LB. What the fuck? A LB who likes ogling and playing with nude girls? Do they go off and have hetero-sex?
Another girl dancing on stage looks very much like a LB. Nikki says it just the shear number of surgeries she had on chin, 3 nose jobs, etc. Coupled with rather straight body. Actually a girl with surgeries to look like a LB.
My frequent bars at Cowboy are Crazy House and @Corner bar. When the Old Dutch lease runs out, CH will expand into there. So my two bars will next to each other, well on opposite sides of the Soi. The rest of cowboy seems destined to be heavily influenced by Coyotes and Ladyboys. Too similar to Nana, excepting that at least a few bars are having some naked somewhat ordinary looking girls. There are a few Cowboy bars, particularly newer ones, that I have no experience with at all.
Just checked in my BKK hotel Soi 23
1. Well, Soi Cowboy is 100 PC shut down for the Buddha holiday. But all the Massage places are open. Going to one in a few minutes. They are all about 50-100 baht more here, but I'm sure cost of living here is higher, along with rent for the shop.
2. Checked out Soi 11, everything is open, huge restaurants and bar are mostly vacant and just a few customers. Looks like Levels and their sister late night club, The Sugar Club will be open, because I saw a guy carry huge bags of ice in. And as TomasB said Bangkok Beat will be open after midnight, so my plan is to hit that first and then go to Levels and Sugar Club.
Taxi prices are not too bad either. Just 100 baht between Soi 23 and Soi 11 and I get full AC door to door.
However, taxi from VT 6 to Soi 23 BKK was 1,500 baht and it was a long ride, but smooth traffic in the To BKK direction due to the holiday!
Slight drizzle here in BKK now, but not the getting wet type. May put a damper on things, dunno.
Man, what a topsy turvy world I've entered (like Alice) !
So, in Pattaya. Of all places. Outside VT 6 and Central festival mall, all the massage places (and there's ton), most are professional massage places and I'm not sure many of them will offer a happy ending option. They would not even come to my condo room around the corner. Except for the one that found in the last few days...... Of about 7, I had asked and 3, I had tried on premises.
Here in BKK on Soi 23, so many girls from about 10 massage places near my hotel, some (like maybe 10 PC) of them quite cute, don't seem interested at all in customers who don't want at least a HJ. Haha. LOL They all, it seems, want at least a HJ and are kinda giving me the boo treatment when I said a priori that all I want is a regular massage. Go figure!