Pattaya Reports

Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?

She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.

Polly Pons short for Polly Pontifications.

Monkeypaw people, doesn't that turn you Gay / Bisexuality guys off-just a little bit?

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727550]Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. ..

Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?

She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.[/QUOTE]Well believe it or not. But those working girls are also human. So yeah she COULD be falling for you and be bored and be playing the long game. All at once. Keep in mind its low season so she might have time between her freelance ST / LT things.

Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.

I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727550]She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.[/QUOTE]Talk and be friends with her if you have nothing else to do at the time. But it seems you already know the rules: No Dough!

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727550]Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?.[/QUOTE]Not a long con, this is a medium con.

Bar girls are constantly working their telephone with multiple potential sponsors. At some point, she will reveal a sick child, parent, uncle, or Buffalo, which is her hint for you to send money. If you don't, at some point, she will stop playing telephone with you.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2727173]I am taking 3 ladies from Pattaya to Singapore. Not all at the same time. I am in Singapore with one lady now. This afternoon, I will take her to the airport, see her off, and then 2 ladies will arrive from Pattaya. I know the 2 ladies, they won't play together, but they are okay if I fuck one at a time.

As for switching out ladies at the airport, it's a delicate maneuver.[/QUOTE]Wow, it actually worked!

Today, I fly back to Bangkok, and will spend the night with a Pattaya bargirl who is in Bangkok for personal business.

The two ladies with me now will go back to Pattaya when we reach Suvarnaphumi airport.

No problem fucking one lady with the other in the same room.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2727808]Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.

I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.[/QUOTE]That is correct. And it's the "human" part that has me asking (in a similar vein to the are AITAH reddit). I'm just somewhat confused by her behavior and curious if anyone else has seen anything like it. I like being friends with her and want to see her again as Mr Enternational suggested, but not at the cost of leading her on. She told me she loved me the second morning and tells me she won't even look at other guys. This seems like the lie we've all heard, no?

Basically I met her at the bar and left with her as it closed. From then on she managed to stick with me the rest of the trip and money was never discussed. It was intoxicating at first, but she slips up way too much in her stories so it's really turning me off. I mean I could spend another week with her and enjoy it, but if she is serious, I need to break up.

If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.

Sometimes bargirls forget to scrub their Facebook account, which may have posts showing their Thai husband.

Same with Messenger. A lot of bargirls are active on Messenger at 3 AM, which either means they are at a boy bar (they open after the bars close), or they are chatting up men in the US.

I always look at the post history of any new Facebook friend.

Bro,

Can someone share the current damage for different options.

BF - 300?

ST - 1000 (Only 1 or more).

LT - 1500 (2 shots or more).

I know depends on negotiation and how do you manage. But, can someone share this in case.

[QUOTE=Smyke;2725122]Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.

4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.

The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!

1000's of ladies to choose from!

The big downer for me is bars insisting on music at ear bursting levels. Impossible to talk to provider or negotiate easily!

I measured the volume in several bars at 105 dB with the live bands even louder.

Memo to bar owners. More noise does not make your bar more attractive.

Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727550]Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?.[/QUOTE]I'm curious as to how and when you met her. You say that you didn't give her any money, although you sort of barfined her, and you say you have no doubt she has other customers. I think these details would help us understand the situation and offer meaningful commentary.

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727972] She told me she loved me the second morning and tells me she won't even look at other guys. This seems like the lie we've all heard, no?

Basically I met her at the bar and left with her as it closed. From then on she managed to stick with me the rest of the trip and money was never discussed. It was intoxicating at first, but she slips up way too much in her stories so it's really turning me off. I mean I could spend another week with her and enjoy it, but if she is serious, I need to break up.[/QUOTE]If you met her at a bar, and she told you she loved you the second morning, it's not a "real" relationship. These girls can turn the act on and off on a dime- I've seen them do it. If you haven't given her money it could be that she's playing the long game, or she's just on autopilot, doing what she does, and has only stayed engaged because it is low season and there are no other takers.

All that being said, she could have feelings that are "real", but keep in mind these feelings could easily be projected on to somebody else and you are more and image or an idea to her than an actual real person.

If you are enjoying it, continue, if not end it and don't think twice. She will have a new "love" pretty quickly and forget all about you.

RS.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2727808].......Feels to me you are just not into her that much......[/QUOTE]On the contrary it seems to me that he is into her and is worried about that and quite rightly so. Long distance relationships are difficult to maintain.

[QUOTE=BoredInAmerica;2727550]Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?

She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.[/QUOTE]If you are with a bar girl in Thailand there is a very high chance she is or will cheat on you. Bar girls just get used to lying and it becomes second nature to them.

If you are not in Thailand and having some sort of long distance relationship then there is a 99% chance that she is lying to you about a whole host of things.

You have already seen a number of red flags. You already know what you should do.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2728031]If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.[/QUOTE]Correction:

If you think a bargirl is in love with you, you are wrong.

Don't get any info.

Fuck her as many times as you would like / can afford. Then move on with your life.

Sex can be purchased in bars.

Love cannot be purchased anywhere.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2728031]If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.

Sometimes bargirls forget to scrub their Facebook account, which may have posts showing their Thai husband.

Same with Messenger. A lot of bargirls are active on Messenger at 3 AM, which either means they are at a boy bar (they open after the bars close), or they are chatting up men in the US.

I always look at the post history of any new Facebook friend.[/QUOTE]Most pattaya ladies have more then one facebook account. Doesn't work.

More simple. If she is "GF" and she stays Pattaya. She is NOT a GF.