Bangkok Reports

I have to admit that the other time I went by myself so it takes a bit more time to become accustomed to the place if you don't have anyone to talk to. This time, I arrived with two girls in tow, who in turn introduced me to several of their gal pals all clearly on the make and available if I wanted to blow off the girl who invited me along. It's a lot more fun that way surrounded by women duh. Naturally, when I am talking to a whole group of gals, it also attracts other girls nearby who were eyeing me perhaps thinking I am Mr. Two Week Millionaire.

That being said, the place is a desperate fire trap waiting for the wrong combination of events. As far I know, there in only exit and entry door that leads (in a desperate escape) to an underground garage. Since smoking is allowed, it only exacerbates the dangers of being there. Throw in the noise and some people who don't have club manners and it can be a daunting place.

It's noteworthy to mention that I saw several girls I had seen earlier at BBeat in Climax including one who had left with a customer earlier from BBeat.

My gal may have had some crow feet, not noticed in the dark confines of Climax or BBeat until this morning, but her body and pussy was as nice and tight (and shaved) as any 25 yo I have been with on this trip. This morning she said she did not usually eat breakfast in order to keep her weight down. My friend also has a real job involved in the liquor wholesale business so this FL work must supplement her income. She pays 10,000 baht for a studio somewhere in the vicinity of Thong Lor.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1886019]Nice report Tomasb, thanks.

You've mentioned this a couple of times, and I wonder why exactly you hate Climax. It's been a few years since I was there last, but when I did go, I usually had a great time. I find the wait staff too pushy, there is too much smoke, and the band is loud and very middling, but I always find someone to my liking. Have you changed your mind at all about Climax since this event?

Very much agree with this sentiment. It's fabulous to sample from the youth tray, but sometimes, you want someone with the sense that comes only with a few extra years. Those years usually come with 10 extra pounds and a few extra crow's feet, but if you can handle that, it's worth it once in a while.[/QUOTE]

Nice informative report. I have never been to Spassos for the reasons you mentioned and I suspected. Overpriced drinks, and overpriced FL's on the make for business travelers staying at the Hyatt or nearby with expense accounts and money burning a hole in their pocket.

When I was in Mixx a few nights ago, a similar situation happened to me. I was quoted $200USD and I also countered with 2000 baht and got the same reaction -- a slight look of disgust and abject despair.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1886040]Last Tuesday I came to BK for the first of three evenings in the land of smiles. I had made arrangements with Breadman's recommended friend, whose name is Jay to meet me and help me with any needed translations, etc. I have used a similar tact in China and Columbia in the past with good results. Let me say that Jay is a good guy and was worth the money I gave him. My personal choices of venues did hamper his efforts, but that was my call not his. I am not much into gogo's as I rarely find a girl that I really want to take out. I tend to like FL's more and the whole gogo scene just doesn't do it for me. As a rule. I had a beer at The Den while waiting for Jay to make his way into town and for a first visit was pretty pleased. If not for it being my first stop on the first night there were a couple of gals that would have gotten an offer.

To be continued.[/QUOTE]Hey Sky Ryder,

Be normal act normal if you are opening a bottle no need to speak anything to the lady about st or LT just chill have a few drinks with her and tell her you know everything no need to speak about money. If you don't like the lady just give her 1500 and let her free after 1 pop if you like her and have the vibe with with her then 3 k is the best price anywhere in BKK for a Thai lady. If the lady starts the money talk be ready that is the first sign of trouble second being she asking money upfront. You are a high roller just act smart, dress smart, be classy act classy like its a formal dinner date and trust me everything will fall into place. Chat up with a girl, enjoy a drink or two with her feel her up kiss her in the club if the vibe is there only then take her other wise options are immense till 5 am in the morning.

Early evening you can also try Oskar it has the same range of ladies as Spasso and even no lady at Spasso took more than 3 k from me. Secondly stay in a good 5 * property in Bangkok everything counts, if you like the babe keep her in the day buy her a dress go for lunch and have 2 pops again. Treat her normal and trust me you will be having the ride of your life.

NO need to ask her st or LT, just chill drink with her dance like a date and in the morning slip 3 k in her purse and tell her there is a small stuff for you I hope you will like it, take her no if you like her and she will bring friends and they will take you to car or another Thai club so more ladies to choose. Scene is totally different people just don't understand it, men think Thai ladies are sex machines lets be real and treat them good and man they are hungry tigress in the bed.

Cheers: Try SING SING also.

Alex

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1886060]When I was in Mixx a few nights ago, a similar situation happened to me. I was quoted $200USD and I also countered with 2000 baht and got the same reaction -- a slight look of disgust and abject despair.[/QUOTE]You should work more on your international playboy image, bespoken residence and dress buying skills. Just highroll your way out. That will tame the tigress into a kitten. It's so easy, I wonder why people doesn't understand that.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1886058]This time, I arrived with two girls in tow, who in turn introduced me to several of their gal pals all clearly on the make and available if I wanted to blow off the girl who invited me along. It's a lot more fun that way surrounded by women duh. [/QUOTE]Yah, that'll change your mind in a hurry!

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1886058]That being said, the place is a desperate fire trap waiting for the wrong combination of events. As far I know, there in only exit and entry door that leads (in a desperate escape) to an underground garage. Since smoking is allowed, it only exacerbates the dangers of being there. Throw in the noise and some people who don't have club manners and it can be a daunting place.[/QUOTE]I cannot disagree with you there. It is not the safest or the most comfortable of environments, but I do find some tasty talent there.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1886058]It's noteworthy to mention that I saw several girls I had seen earlier at BBeat in Climax including one who had left with a customer earlier from BBeat.[/QUOTE]Hmm, this is interesting. So BBeat precedes Climax for a set of girls, which (presumably) precedes some place like Spicy or Bossy. I knew about the Climax<Spicey<Bossy ordering, but did not know that they came to Climax from BBeat.

I actually think Climax is the confluence of several streams of girls. In the past, I have seen gogo girls from Nana who I saw BFed at 9 pm turn up in Climax at 1 am. I know some girls from Thermae move on to Climax. I have also seen some pool bar girls from Gulliver's move over to Climax at around midnight. So all roads lead to Climax, at least for the girls who did not land a date early enough, or who are done with their date. I suspect (though do not know) that Mixx is a competitor to Climax, and not a feeder or outlet.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1886040]Last Tuesday I came to BK for the first of three evenings in the land of smiles.[/QUOTE]Excellent report Sky Ryder, thanks for taking the time to share it.

Not to dump on your host, but anyone who knows the BKK night scene knows that Climax is dead before 11 pm (and probably even up to midnight). But good you bust your nut. That makes a whole lot of difference. Plus it sounds like he really did his work in helping you sort out the girls in Climax. So it's all good.

I also found the Spasso girl's refusal to go lower than 5000 interesting (and useful) information. I have never gotten a good vibe from Spasso. The girls seem too expectant. Whenever people are sipping wine instead of Bacardi cooler or San Miguel, you know you're going to get screwed, but not fucked (if you see what I mean there).

Looking forward to your next report!

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1886040] To my surprise there were also a few rather rotund ladies, that I have to give credit for even trying. To my eye they stood an equal chance to getting a client as a snowball in Hades, but what do I know.[/QUOTE]One of they great mysteries of Thai women. You can see the same, at different levels, in any P4 P establishment in Thailand. There must be a lesson to learn from that - "In life, never give up". However we know that men from some cultures like fat women.

[QUOTE]Ordered two house brand vodka cocktails, and got the bill. It was the most I have ever paid for a non-call brand cocktail. Anywhere. I paid more that 1400 baht.[/QUOTE]Wow. Not even in Paris, London, or Moscow. Pure Thai nonsense.

[QUOTE]I didn't misunderstand at all, she meant 6 K for short time.[/QUOTE]That, I understand. The hotel is full of men on business trips from various rich countries to which $180 seems a bargain. Their pockets probably still hurt from the last time they tried that at home and were given the mediocre "no this, no that" service for $500. She set an exclusive (for Thailand) price and found that she can cash it night after night, just like the drinks above. Also, in some cultures the sex act with a pro is something done for its own sake, no need to have it last a long time or develop any rapport or closeness. ST is perfect for that.

[QUOTE]She kissed me on the cheek, smiled that "I had to ask" smile and off she went.[/QUOTE]Paid as agreed. Well done. It wasn't that bad. Same price as in Pattaya for a girl or lady that you can actually look from all angles without asking yourself why the self-inflicted visual punishment.

I smelled bad service all the way around. Though she was quite pretty, I was dealing with a pure pro supported by her opening ask price. Really not interested except to determine the cost for future reference.

Yes, someone else mentioned Mixx and Climax as competitors, and they are, indeed, certainly competitors. Both charge an entry fee with one drink included in cost and few people, men or women are going to switch venues at that hour of the night or early morning. You either go one or the other. Does not make sense to haul around in a taxi looking for something better. Mixx entry fee is quite a bit higher (350).

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1886229]You should work more on your international playboy image, bespoken residence and dress buying skills. Just highroll your way out. That will tame the tigress into a kitten. It's so easy, I wonder why people doesn't understand that.[/QUOTE]

And the saga continues.

Had massage from a tall, curvy lady on Soi 18 shop, she gave me a one hour Thai and then a one hour oil. Both were outstanding. I really wanted to get full service, but she said they only allowed HJ in their shop. I wasn't going to waste a load on a HJ, but I was too weak minded to say "NO". If she could screw as well as she did HJ and a little BBBJ, it was an opportunity missed for me. Oh well. Met a very good friend who was in town and we went to meet a gentleman I had only done business with online. As it turned out we had both worked for the same company on two separate occasions. It really is a small world. Had a couple of nice cold beers and decided to eat dinner at a really good place called "No Idea" on Soi 22. It was a good choice. Shared a "Tomahawk" steak that was prepared to perfection. My friend lives in China, so the chance to get a nice piece of steak is a real treat and it was worth it. Highly recommend No Idea to eat and drink, all around good time.

After dinner decided to walk to Oskar's, which was a good walk to say the least. Went in and ordered a drink, my first time in this bar as well. Much smaller scale than Spasso's. It was kind of like a good place for the gals that didn't want to complete with the high level talent at Spasso's, but still consider themselves on a different level than Climax. At least early in the evening. I was also wondering if there are a few more "newbies" than some other bars. Spotted a couple of gals with a group, but wasn't willing to take a chance they were civilians and one of the group was giving me the "come over and talk to my really cute friends and I'll rip your tongue out" look. Maybe I was projecting a little bit. Spied a well formed lass in OMG how did she get in those jeans, and some spectacular heels, walked up as she was paying for her drink and handed the waitress enough money. She smiled and said thanks, put her money back in her purse and made some small talk. After about 5 minutes, she took out her phone and turned her back to me while she was texting. It was a very effective technique, and one I hadn't seen in a while. Being the astute gent I am, I realised I was getting the brush off and walked back to my friend. Still tried to get one of the cuties interested from the foursome at the table, but the force field was too strong to penetrate. My buddy and I left about 11:00, which is maybe a little late for Oskar's.

Walked to Thermae, as I hadn't been there in a while and we both wanted to see what the talent level was in Thermae. As soon as we walked in the place, we both looked at each other and had the same thought, this reminded us of "flower street" in the heyday of Chang Ping KTV's in China. The girls were lined up along the wall shoulder to shoulder. We decided to do the tour. Against the flow to see how the girls reacted to a white guy and a Hong Kong guy. Got a few smiles, a few grab my hands from the "more life experienced" ladies, and more than a few "look aways" from ladies that didn't want our attention. Drank a beer and sat down and noticed this pair of long. Well formed. Bare legs that were only covered by short cut off jeans. And I mean short, with just enough of a camel toe to make it interesting. She was really cute as well and after a few moments, I walked over to say Hello,. I was a little surprised I didn't get rebuffed as I am not Japanese or Korean. Chatted for few minutes and then asked how much for short time. She said 3500, I countered with 2000, she said 3000 and I countered with 2000. We smiled for a minute, and then I realised that I was being used as a "icebreaker", she really didn't want to go with me, but no one had talked to her. Funny how as soon as I walked away, a couple of guys walked right up and chatted away. I moved to another lady on the left side and while cute, wasn't as well built. I had seen a Japanese gent speaking with her and he walked away. I told her I was glad I had a chance to say Hello, turns out the Japanese guy thought she was too expensive or was considering his options. The conversation went to my intentions and I told her short time and my price, she declined, and made a counter. I went up a little and she wasn't interested. I walked away again. Got another beer, and decided to approach a very well endowed lady that was in her 30's I am sure. She had been welcoming me with her eyes all evening. As I walked over another girl walked up and started chatting about working girl stuff I am sure. I waited about ten minutes and decided to call it a night. As we were leaving, the second girl was right in front of us with her Japanese guy in tow. It seems that after I talked to her, he made his way back around and decided to pull the trigger. I was tempted to ask her for a commission!

We walked back to the hotel and were stopped by a nice smile from a 30 something lady at one of the street bars. It was a hot night, and she had nice legs and seemed fun. Stopped for a beer and after chatting for a while, I decided "what the heck". She agreed to my price and off we went. I guess I didn't realize those street bars get a bar fine as well.

Turned out she was a LOT of fun in the room and seemed to throughly enjoy our time together. No rush, just a good pace and she acted as if it had been a while since she had been "horizontal". She was abundantly clear that she intended to get "hers" as well and rode me cowgirl and a very active doogie to make sure she got all I had to offer.

She left with a nice hug and kiss good bye and I was more than satisfied. All in all a good ending to a fairly curious night.

Dear all,

I was reading this forum as I am planning to travel for 4 days at Bangkonk only for enjoy. But I have my restriction of budget and max I can spend 2000 BHT for LT. Please advice me decent places withing same range as I will stay only 4 nights so I do not want waste time in moving one place to another. Also for day time action please suggest me Massage parlor with service in range of 1000.

Thanks in advance.

Has anyone visited the new disco at the Nana hotel.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1886471]

Walked to Thermae, as I hadn't been there in a while and we both wanted to see what the talent level was in Thermae. As soon as we walked in the place, we both looked at each other and had the same thought, this reminded us of "flower street" in the heyday of Chang Ping KTV's in China. The girls were lined up along the wall shoulder to shoulder. We decided to do the tour. Against the flow to see how the girls reacted to a white guy and a Hong Kong guy. Got a few smiles, a few grab my hands from the "more life experienced" ladies, and more than a few "look aways" from ladies that didn't want our attention. Drank a beer and sat down and noticed this pair of long. Well formed. Bare legs that were only covered by short cut off jeans. And I mean short, with just enough of a camel toe to make it interesting. She was really cute as well and after a few moments, I walked over to say Hello,. I was a little surprised I didn't get rebuffed as I am not Japanese or Korean. Chatted for few minutes and then asked how much for short time. She said 3500, I countered with 2000, she said 3000 and I countered with 2000. We smiled for a minute, and then I realised that I was being used as a "icebreaker", she really didn't want to go with me, but no one had talked to her. Funny how as soon as I walked away, a couple of guys walked right up and chatted away. I moved to another lady on the left side and while cute, wasn't as well built. I had seen a Japanese gent speaking with her and he walked away. I told her I was glad I had a chance to say Hello, turns out the Japanese guy thought she was too expensive or was considering his options. The conversation went to my intentions and I told her short time and my price, she declined, and made a counter. I went up a little and she wasn't interested. I walked away again. Got another beer, and decided to approach a very well endowed lady that was in her 30's I am sure. She had been welcoming me with her eyes all evening. As I walked over another girl walked up and started chatting about working girl stuff I am sure. I waited about ten minutes and decided to call it a night. As we were leaving, the second girl was right in front of us with her Japanese guy in tow. It seems that after I talked to her, he made his way back around and decided to pull the trigger. I was tempted to ask her for a commission!
.[/QUOTE]Great place to go if your a white guy and don't mind being turned down by almost all the girls that catch your eye. Waste of time in my opinion (for myself at least), I don't bother going there anymore. There's always a handful right near the door who try to get your attention but they're never ones you'd want to go with. Also wonder if there are girls who say no to non asians so as to save face, this being a general question for Thermae, Climax, Insomnia etc. Personally, I'm better off hunting in the gogo's and the beer bars where I can see the girls reaction without having to do the walk inside Thermae. Case in point I smiled at a cute gogo girl dancing, she saw my interest and stepped behind another dancer. Easy to spot, easy to avoid without getting turned down by every girl in line.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1886678]Great place to go if your a white guy and don't mind being turned down by almost all the girls that catch your eye. Waste of time in my opinion (for myself at least), I don't bother going there anymore.[/QUOTE]Me too. I been 3 times in Thermae in the past years and I got 3 very bad perfomance, waste of time and money.

[QUOTE=KpPat4676;1886536]Dear all,
I was reading this forum as I am planning to travel for 4 days at Bangkonk only for enjoy. But I have my restriction of budget and max I can spend 2000 BHT for LT. Please advice me decent places withing same range as I will stay only 4 nights so I do not want waste time in moving one place to another. Also for day time action please suggest me Massage parlor with service in range of 1000.
[/QUOTE]I think you don't need advice, but a budget more high. Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Breadman;1886678]Easy to spot, easy to avoid without getting turned down by every girl in line.[/QUOTE]Sorry may I ask you age? Here in Pattaya (and in Patong too) 40s is already at risk of rejection by stunners and some hotties. And same happened to me with a lone, full model quality at the garage disco in Bangkok. But if a go-go girl would do like that to me I would then pretend to be willing to barfine her, flashing money etc, and drag it for the longest time possible, just to call off at the last second blaming the girl's attitude. If a woman wants full customer choice discretion rights the FL door is always open.