Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=NormalAsianKid;2434661]Hi guys,

I know you're tired of reading about CV at this point but I find it crazy that people are being condemned for creating hysteria or being alarmist by warning members about the threat of CV. .[/QUOTE]Its not that anyone was tired of reading about CV, but members were saying it shouldn't be continued in the Medellen thread so I started a thread called Colombia / Travel Coronavirus Updates and the discussion was continued over there.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4155-Colombia-Travel-Coronavirus-Updates[/URL]

Right, if you aren't here you don't have to think about it. For those who are here, a practical measure is to avoid the metro because that seems like a place you could pick it up. Maybe traffic will calm down because of this. I don't know, I have serious doubts about that.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2434663]As of today, Colombia closed its borders to all foreigners, except residents. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]

That does indeed suck. I notice several restaurants in Provenza on my instagram feed announcing they are shutting down, some of my favorite places. The morning news reported 54 known cases in Colombia as of today. A girl I know went to Soacha for a long term date because things slowed down for her here. Life goes on.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2434696]Kinda sucks my gym is closing this week because of this stuff and I would usually hit the gym before doing a Casa run.[/QUOTE]

We can probably all agree the Venezuelans don't generally have the option of getting jobs other than sex work, pushcart vending, or panhandling. Colombian women are eligible for "straight" jobs but there are massively more of them than there are available jobs. Hiring managers can be highly selective. Like any stereotype, the one about lazy women who choose "the life" for it's easy money and lack of responsibility is true in some cases but there are other factors at play.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. Most of them have no skills and unemployment is still high. For the FB girls, I figure step one is to beg their clients for money first. If that doesn't work, maybe some of them temporarily filter down to casas or bang the local guys for less (guys they would have never banged in the past). This all assumes they only need to hold out for a month or so. These girls are fundamentally lazy, so I think they hold out as long as they can.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2434784]That does indeed suck. I notice several restaurants in Provenza on my instagram feed announcing they are shutting down, some of my favorite places. The morning news reported 54 known cases in Colombia as of today. A girl I know went to Soacha for a long term date because things slowed down for her here. Life goes on.[/QUOTE]Yep bar closings and no gatherings of more than 50 peeps. Still plenty of stuff to do though. I'm hoping these restrictions will help with that traffic and air pollution.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2434848]I doubt it. Most of them have no skills and unemployment is still high. For the FB girls, I figure step one is to beg their clients for money first. If that doesn't work, maybe some of them temporarily filter down to casas or bang the local guys for less (guys they would have never banged in the past). This all assumes they only need to hold out for a month or so. These girls are fundamentally lazy, so I think they hold out as long as they can.[/QUOTE]There are few jobs to be gotten, with the field getting slimmer and slimmer with each passing day due to what is not only a global pandemic, but also a global economic crisis. They will find ways to fuck for less, move back in with their moms, beg clients for money, etc. I've already had a tute I was fucking in Sao Paulo, Brazil hit me up twice for money. Each time, my answer was the same with a "no".

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2434677]I think there's another lesson to be learned from his experience. When the situation degrades to the point where you're arguing with a chica, there's not much chance you're going to come out ahead. That's especially true if your Spanish isn't strong.

To me, this is a problem with trying to nail everything down in advance. If she doesn't like the deal, chances are she'll just agree to it. Then she'll come up with an excuse to get out of it.

If everything was good up to that point, why burn the bridge? A bit of diplomacy and you can probably turn it to your advantage.

"Que triste. Tu perrito est enfermo? Entiendo. Deberas atender a tu mascota. Pero esperaba que te quedaras ms tiempo. " How sad. Your dog is sick? I understand. You should attend to your pet. But I expected you to stay longer.

Show concern, validate her excuse, then nicely let her know she's skipping out on you. You can try to work it out for a discounted second session, or a later return to finish. You'll probably still end up paying the price, but at least you get goodwill out of it. What did he save? 90 k? What if she had broken the laptop? What if the hotel decided the incident violated their rules and kicked him out without refunding the remaining days? What if she gets on WhatsApp and tells her friends to all avoid him?

As others have reported, the girls all talk to each other. It's one big gossip web. The reputation you build follows you.[/QUOTE]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.

I relaxed for a couple days, before the weekend, and by relaxed, I mean played the WhatsApp game with ghosts. I finally just said F it and gave up on caring about making plans. It's draining, sometimes. Friday, I hit New Life (forget the name), which was fine. Nothing new to report, aside from being sprayed down by the haz mat welcome committee. Then, I cruised Veracruz, popped into my little spot, La Fonda de Cascadas (across from the red Pilsen bar). There is one, ONE, chick on that street that intrigues me, and twice now, I did not pull the trigger. I walked up to Raudal and was stalked by a morena who was being egged-on by her elders. No chance. I sarcastically told her to show me her cedula, and she quickly came up with some BS. I got out of that scenario as quick as possible, back to Veracruz, and then to the plaza. This is maybe my 6th-8th time in the area, and I never can find the hidden gems I read about. Anyway, into Conejitas. P.S. - ended up at Gusto's and La Isla, this night. Didn't pull from either, as I was playing wingman, and not really in the mood to negotiate Friday night prices from those establishments.

It is about 5-6 pm, at this point. My mentality was to have some beers, just relax after the high-stress walk-about, and then figure out dinner back in Poblado. I got a pitcher of beer (20 k) and decompressed. I saw 3-4 girls that I would definitely bang. Probably a high for me, in Conejitas. I decided to try a new strategy, and just plant some seeds. Three of the hotter-looking girls took the stage (2 k tips are customary), and wow did they increased their value. I can't recall if I got / gave a number to the first one. The 2nd was a flaquita Vennie. Tattoos on her thighs, and elsewhere. She got her hair done on Saturday, so she has only worked once since adding the blonde braids. How do I know? Because she came over on Saturday. She was supposed to come over mid-day, but I was so hungover, and she was getting her hair / nails done, and buying some new clothes. I got her an Uber around 7 pm maybe. We hung out for awhile, chatting, and she was on her phone most of the time. Turns out it was her friend and mom, both in Bogota. I could tell she had active convos with some dudes with local numbers, and she is living in a hotel around the corner from Conejitas. Anyway, the jacuzzi finally filled, we change into our bathing attire. Hers is a tiny red number that looks like it could be lingerie, more-so than a bikini. Once that came off, I was amazed at how nice her body was. Perky little tits, zero fat, maybe 5'6 100 lbs, and a nice little shaved kitty. BBBJ, BBFS, and both were amazing. We were in and out of the jacuzzi. She gives off a very reserved and mysterious vibe. She enjoyed herself, and it was a real home run, for me. I got some nice photos, sin cara. We had some beers, ordered food, and relaxed. Netflix on, Spanish audio with English subtitles, and I couldn't help myself. Round 2 on the couch. Rapi interrupts, momentarily, and then back to action. We got Mexican food from somewhere, and the chicken burrito was pretty good. She had 2 tacos, and ate one.

TLN, she watched Netflix all night, and I went to bed. In the morning, I couldn't get a clear read on if she was going to ask for money, and if so, how much, etc. I know it's a risk, but a Vennie that's paying 30 k / night just got to watch Netflix, have some beers, eat dinner, and maybe just feel normal for a night. So. She never asks. I used Uber to get to the gym, so I told her to grab a taxi. I gave her 50 k and told her it was for the taxi & breakfast. All-in-all, Uber from Centro, 2 tacos, & 50 k. So, maybe 75 k for double-pop BB TLN. She's was messaging me all yesterday to come back. If I ended staying another month, I'll likely see her again. 20 yo, no kids.

The 3rd dancer wears glasses, shoulder-length hair, fresh Cartagena tan, and stupid cartoon body (in a good way). Big fake tits, ass that might be fake but might not be, that looks amazing on her. I was locked-up with the Vennie, all night, so I had my server guy give my business card to this girl. He was terrible at being inconspicuous, and I got called-out by the Vennie. I made up some bullshit, and I think we just agreed to pretend it didn't happen. So, she was going to come over mid-day, said she was seeing her mom, and would message around 6-7 p. After dealing with this BS the last few days, I ended up just heading out for dinner and drinks shortly after 6 pm. She ended up texting at 730 p, and we agreed on 9 p. I was late because I was in search of food, and was waiting for pizza, around the corner. She hung out in the taxi, and was totally cool about it, saying I waited for her all day, so it's fine. She loves to fuma marijuana. I didn't partake. She had a slide of pizza, and we didn't drink any alcohol. Lots of chatting, and finally, off to the bedroom. Her tits could use an upgrade, but from 20 ft in a dark Conejitas, they look insane. She gives a good BBBJ, and I am just shocked. This girl with the cartoon body has the most unfortunate David Copperfield gaffe hack-job, AKA baby damage. She was wearing a bodysuit that looked amazing on her, so this was a let-down. Although, light were low, and I just kind of re-programmed my brain, for temporary enjoyment. Decent covered session, some pics sin cara, etc. At about 12:45 a, after some cuddling and music, she said she needs to get home because her taxi driver friend is about to head back to Robledo. I play the waiting game, she asks for money, and says she lives far, far away. I slip her 200 k and she doesn't even look at it, thanks me, goodbye kiss, and 7 mins later I'm asleep. I think that was fair for the time, and two taxis. Not sure I would be doing the Seinfeld celebration had I only paid her 150 k. Wouldn't repeat, but she'd probably be a good one for some guys. She has a young Lisa Ann look. 29 yo, spent time in China and S. Korea, years ago, so maybe higher mileage than the average chick.

I go back and forth about how much I can, should, will pay. I guess, I probably shouldn't feel bad about anything, from a macro perspective. With all the time wasted making plans, over-payments in some cases, etc. I guess I just feel bad that the good ones are the girls to suffer, financially, in most cases. Ok, that's enough of that!

I have my apartment through Wednesday, and am looking for another, today. I will probably stay for another month. I'm wondering if I should post in a GringoPaisa FB group about my search. I tend to think if I wait a day or two, I might be able to find some one that is either A) desperate, or B) realistic. No tourists or business people coming in, only leaving. Surprisingly, Casacol hasn't responded in 24 hours. I wonder if the tourist-driven companies are going the way of the airlines, and just hacking people. Maybe there is some one on this board who has an apartment here, and had their travel plans change. I'm looking for something in Poblado, 1 br is enough, modern amenities, probably doesn't need to be said. No guest policy issues, washer, etc.

I heard in Lleras that there is an expectation of restaurants / bars closing down (as was previously mentioned about some in Provenza).

I included an 18 yo from Villa Hermosa, in my first report. She has been incredibly unprofessional, since I first saw her. I think I am going to just ignore her, from here on out. Random messages, "Hoy?" and then goes dark. I would have repeated, but I'm over it, now.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2434930]I relaxed for a couple days, before the weekend, and by relaxed, I mean played the WhatsApp game with ghosts. I finally just said F it and gave up on caring about making plans. It's draining, sometimes. Friday, I hit New Life (forget the name), which was fine. Nothing new to report, aside from being sprayed down by the haz mat welcome committee. Then, I cruised Veracruz, popped into my little spot, La Fonda de Cascadas (across from the red Pilsen bar). There is one, ONE, chick on that street that intrigues me, and twice now, I did not pull the trigger. I walked up to Raudal and was stalked by a morena who was being egged-on by her elders. No chance. I sarcastically told her to show me her cedula, and she quickly came up with some BS. I got out of that scenario as quick as possible, back to Veracruz, and then to the plaza. This is maybe my 6th-8th time in the area, and I never can find the hidden gems I read about. Anyway, into Conejitas. P.S. - ended up at Gusto's and La Isla, this night. Didn't pull from either, as I was playing wingman, and not really in the mood to negotiate Friday night prices from those establishments.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Board has been dead! This has become some of my favorite reading each day. I'm sad things are the way they are in the world right now. I was stoked to return in April but we all know that aint happening. Keep us updated when ya can bro.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2434910]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.[/QUOTE]Have you considered that maybe it's just you?

I've never gotten everything in writing. In fact, I rarely get anything other than a price in writing. And I don't have these problems. Girls aren't trying to change things, girls are almost never trying to leave before I'm ready for them to go. Some don't want to leave then. I never have girls immediately getting dressed to leave, or giving excuses why they need to leave. I've never had a girl try to charge more for something and I rarely have anything to complain about. A few aren't as GFE as I want, but only a few.

I never have issues with the girls I want not responding to my messages. I also don't need more than 6 or 7 messages to set things up. And I never end up needing to argue about things.

However, seems like every "get it all in writing" monger has problems. They spend as much time arguing over the deal as they spend fucking. The girls all want to leave as soon as possible, or want to add extra charges.

Then again, I treat every chica like a human being instead of just something to fuck. They seem to appreciate that approach.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2434680]What do you mean desperate? Those hoes will stop being lazy and go get a normal job like everybody else. Do you seriously think they will sit around and starve to death because the easy money train is delayed? Never has it been said that a hooker's life ended because there were no more customers. She simply found something else to do to make money.[/QUOTE]Plenty of Colombian guys will be glad to give them business, but they generally don't pay stupid gringo prices. The girls will survive.

This will be one most trying times in your adult life gentlemen. Not because Colombia is closed: but from what comes next.

In a chica's mind, just because you can't physically arrive there doesn't mean your dollars can't! I've already gotten a "Mi Padre has cancer" with photo to boot!

Saw a "Baby" message in FB messenger that I have left on unread, LOL. If you believe yourself to give into temptation, I would advise that you just log out of messenger or just delete it all together until this all blows over.

As other have mentioned below: these chicas will not starve. But you just might if you send them all your damn money, LOL.

SP out!

If you stayed home, count your blessings. Not all of the monger population is aware of this forum.

Imagine having to lock down in Colombia for 14 nights. When you only budgeted for 5.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;2434910]I had a girl try this shit with me in Medellin. I simply told her that I ain't paying her the full amount if she leaves early. She gave me some sad story about her father being drunk around her mother and she has to get back because she worried about her mom. I looked at her ass weighing in at under 100 pounds and asked her exactly wtf she was going to do LOL. She asked me how much would I be giving her. We originally agreed on 3 hrs for 150 mil. Now if she had said 2 hours before I would have agreed at that price but she agreed on 3 hrs so I held her to that. Told her ass since she was leaving after 2 hrs she would only be receiving 100 mil. She paused but agreed. Trust me I had no inclination to pay her the full amount. At that point it was the fucking principle.[/QUOTE]First time with a Facebook girl I always nail down a couple of points that are dealbreakers for me, BBBJ plus two shots or two hours, whichever comes first. The reason is that if it's going to be an all covered quickie I'the rather go to a casa or strip club where I can get the same for less than half the price. Plus there are far fewer surpises as to their appearance, especially at a strip club if she takes the stage. You see what you are getting. But some say no to the time, the BBBJ or both, and odds are those are ones I didn't want anything to do with anyway. Sure perhaps I could have turned some of those around to my way of thinking if I invited them over anyway, but with all the available girls in Medellin I do not see that as a good use of my time.

It's rare for me that one agrees to the terms but wants to leave early. The few times it's happened their pay was cut accordingly and none complained. If they bad mouthed me to their friends, then they didn't cover a lot of ground as I have no trouble getting appointments. That said, if she wants to create a scene, and it only costs 50 mil ($15) to get rid of her, why not? That especially applies if she is in your residence. I'm never in that position though as I only use Love Motels, which in Colombian culture are designed for the specific purpose.