Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Joomani;1892529]Could be the avg. Agogo line-is so horrid that CH looks good in comparison. Hahahahaha. Tulips for ex, line-up is disgusting. SW equally disgusting. Sharks line-up passable. You get the picture. I can only imagine what Cactus Jacks girls look like. 50 year old hot girls?[/QUOTE]I would agree that overall looks in the P4 P scene have been in decline for some time and are now really hitting the skids. Most of the gals I see in the oilies are far worse than the gals I used to pull off the street for 500 Baht 15 years ago. And GoGos, with the exception of a few lookers here and there the choices are very limited and the money they want; sheesh! BG Soi 7 has become a hangout for grandmothers. It is grim beyond grim. Even the FLs at Thermae are not so pretty anymore. Can't really comment on the discos as I don't go hunting at 2 am. Was in Pattaya last weekend and I did not really find it any better. Perhaps the folks doing the hiring are blind?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1892767]I would agree that overall looks in the P4 P scene have been in decline for some time and are now really hitting the skids. Most of the gals I see in the oilies are far worse than the gals I used to pull off the street for 500 Baht 15 years ago. And GoGos, with the exception of a few lookers here and there the choices are very limited and the money they want; sheesh! BG Soi 7 has become a hangout for grandmothers. It is grim beyond grim. Even the FLs at Thermae are not so pretty anymore. Can't really comment on the discos as I don't go hunting at 2 am. Was in Pattaya last weekend and I did not really find it any better. Perhaps the folks doing the hiring are blind?[/QUOTE]I spent a fair amount of days in Patts and I found on certain nights the top gogos had numerous stunners, and then then the next night not so many.

In general I was very impressed w / the looks of the gogo girls. That doesn't include FLs, beer bar girls, or day time gentlemen clubs, no for the most part they are second tier hooker the lot of them. The top lookers are always in the top gogo bars consistently.

The problem is if you're not Asian (or maybe Brad Pitt?) they want nothing to do w / you. So the hottest women in the gogos will shun the westerners and go goo goo doll for the Koreans, Japanese, etc. Every night out this kind of discrimination occurs and occasionally one (stunner) will give you a smile. I'm talking Pattaya here.

I am a gogo bar guy, that's where I do my business. I found myself in the second tier gogo bars like Beach Agogo, Electric Blue Agogo and in LK Metro I like Champagne Agogo, I found Sugar Sugar to be worthy, and a few more in LK. I know there are many more good gogos in Patts that I need to check out.

The top gogos on WS like Sensations, Happy Agogo (so so this trip), and some I can't remember.

There was one night in Sensations (packed house) where I could not believe my eyes the pussy was so so fine. But the next night it was not the same, I didn't see the stunners I saw the night before.

In BKK at Crazy House, Baccarra there were plenty of really fuckable women, by fuckable I mean really fuckable. In the Thermae there was really hot young talent but they are only interested in Koreans, Japanese men. There were 3 westerners in the Thermae on my last night there out of 70 dudes. Out of 70 pussies standing around waiting for business 2 or 3 gave me a look and a smile.

My opinion of Thailand GFE is not fucking good when dealing w / stunners, or for that matter 2nd tier women as well. They all have too many fucked up rules and time limits. I did not enjoy my 4 weeks in Thailand like I thought I would. I don't like rules unless they're my rules.

If you're a buyer of pussy it's a sellers market in BKK and Pattaya. But they have tons (and TONS) of hot looking nice pussy there.

The week I spent in the PI saved my trip. So basically I don't agree w / you bro and thought the market place was full of quality but extremely short on service.

My 2 baht. The photo is not mine but what I believe an Asian stunner to look like.

[QUOTE=Acenase;1892752]Why wouldn't you take something for free so you don't have to pay money for it? If it's there, then it's there. If it turns Girl-friendly-like who cares, just lie to them and tell them what they want to here. It doesn't mean you have to stick around. So enjoy the freebie and lead them on and go your own separate way.[/QUOTE]That was my thinking about 8 years ago too. But it turns out there is a serious social network amongst these girls. Once you are tagged as one girl's property, there is no way on this planet you are getting it on with anyone else from her social circle. And the social circle is a series of concentric circles, gradually getting looser and looser, but it covers a lot of girls.

Example: I once went the freebie route with a girl in Climax, and it was super hot. I then returned to the States for 3 months, saying a heartfelt goodbye, and upon my return, I went straight into Climax. I had not told her that I was returning. I found one super smoker of a girl (I still remember how fucking hot she was, wearing cut-off short jean shorts, a skin tight halter top, ripped midsection, tight body, the works), and one thing lead to another, and she was grinding her ass into little Kumbu way off to the side of Climax. Then a girl who I don't recognize comes up to us, she looks me in the eye like I was a piece of shit, and then says something into my girl's ear, and leaves. This girl then turns to me and says something like "sorry, but you are with a girl called Tan, and I cannot be with you. " She turns around and walks off. And that was it for me in Climax on that trip. I had been blacklisted.

So if you lie to the girl, you need to be prepared to be banned from her social circle for a good long time until everything blows over. And that is why I gave up on the idea of freebies. They're good from an economic standpoint, but that money actually does buy you something beyond the sex. It is supposed to buy you protection from all this soap-opera bullshit, and for me, if that's what actually happens, it is totally worth spending the money.

Except in the current case, where I did pay my part of the deal, and she seems to be flaunting the rules of the game. You can't have exclusivity as well as payment. That's not our game, as far as I understand it. Regardless, no matter what, I cannot return to Climax. I'll have to wait a year or so, unfortunately. And that's why I said that I hope this girl does not go over to Mixx, since that seems to be the best alternative to Climax (though I have not been there yet).

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1892342]Woohoooo!

Can't wait to hear this one.

This always happens to me in Thailand after a sub par night. Somehow things turn aroudn the next night and I have the time of my life. That's why I love the place so much.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Uncle V. I have, however, come to rationalize this one too. After a sub-par night, your expectations are low and your determination to make a turn around is high. Under these favorable mongering conditions, most of us will go out and paint the town red and eventually have the time of our lives. I will unabashedly admit that often throwing more money at the problem tends to solve it.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1892749]Why would I take for free something that I can pay perfectly good money for? I've made that mistake before, several times, thinking that the Freebie is somehow a thing to aspire towards. But in each of the previous instances, it turned very girl-friendly-like in a hurry, and that is exactly the wrong thing. There are reasons I pay for this, and one of those reasons is to not get the throat-slit sign offered to me.[/QUOTE]A wise man once said "You pay them to leave".

Another version (probably for the more discrete mongers) "You pay them for their silence".

I have had several such "jealous" girls try their stunts but they are always met by an expressionless reply from me "Man butterfly".

[QUOTE=Acenase;1892752]Why wouldn't you take something for free so you don't have to pay money for it? If it's there, then it's there. If it turns Girl-friendly-like who cares, just lie to them and tell them what they want to here. It doesn't mean you have to stick around. So enjoy the freebie and lead them on and go your own separate way.[/QUOTE]With women you always pay in the end. Be it financially, emotionally, or with your time and reputation. Chances are you are not really saving anything with a so called "freebie".

[QUOTE=Acenase;1892752]Why wouldn't you take something for free so you don't have to pay money for it? If it's there, then it's there. If it turns Girl-friendly-like who cares, just lie to them and tell them what they want to here. It doesn't mean you have to stick around. So enjoy the freebie and lead them on and go your own separate way.[/QUOTE]Reminded of a scene from The Last Detail.

Meadows: If you're Catholic, do you think it's, uh, sacrilegious to chant?

Buddusky: Did it get you laid?

Meadows: No.

Buddusky: Then Meadows, what the fuck do you want to go on chanting for?

Mulhall: Chant your ass off, kid. But any pussy you get in this world, you going to have to pay for, one way or another.

Buddusky: Hallelujah!

Bangkok is famous for its nightlife. From high end clubs, sky bars for smaller or bigger wallets, to backpacker cafes and the infamous agogo bars, you can all find it in the city. Not so long ago the American branch of Hooters also opened in Bangkok and they now have two locations in the city on Sukhumvit soi 15 and 4.

[URL]https://youtu.be/OrFpbYwXhTo[/URL]

[QUOTE=AsianVid;1892873]Bangkok is famous for its nightlife. From high end clubs, sky bars for smaller or bigger wallets, to backpacker cafes and the infamous agogo bars, you can all find it in the city. Not so long ago the American branch of Hooters also opened in Bangkok and they now have two locations in the city on Sukhumvit soi 15 and 4.

[URL]https://youtu.be/OrFpbYwXhTo[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know this. Wow, I will hop on a plane and get right over.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1892790]That was my thinking about 8 years ago too. But it turns out there is a serious social network amongst these girls. Once you are tagged as one girl's property, there is no way on this planet you are getting it on with anyone else from her social circle. And the social circle is a series of concentric circles, gradually getting looser and looser, but it covers a lot of girls.

Example: I once went the freebie route with a girl in Climax, and it was super hot. I then returned to the States for 3 months, saying a heartfelt goodbye, and upon my return, I went straight into Climax. I had not told her that I was returning. I found one super smoker of a girl (I still remember how fucking hot she was, wearing cut-off short jean shorts, a skin tight halter top, ripped midsection, tight body, the works), and one thing lead to another, and she was grinding her ass into little Kumbu way off to the side of Climax. Then a girl who I don't recognize comes up to us, she looks me in the eye like I was a piece of shit, and then says something into my girl's ear, and leaves. This girl then turns to me and says something like "sorry, but you are with a girl called Tan, and I cannot be with you. " She turns around and walks off. And that was it for me in Climax on that trip. I had been blacklisted.

So if you lie to the girl, you need to be prepared to be banned from her social circle for a good long time until everything blows over. And that is why I gave up on the idea of freebies. They're good from an economic standpoint, but that money actually does buy you something beyond the sex. It is supposed to buy you protection from all this soap-opera bullshit, and for me, if that's what actually happens, it is totally worth spending the money.

Except in the current case, where I did pay my part of the deal, and she seems to be flaunting the rules of the game. You can't have exclusivity as well as payment. That's not our game, as far as I understand it. Regardless, no matter what, I cannot return to Climax. I'll have to wait a year or so, unfortunately. And that's why I said that I hope this girl does not go over to Mixx, since that seems to be the best alternative to Climax (though I have not been there yet).[/QUOTE]I love your stories mate but come on. Money talks and if you had of flashed 4 or 5 k her way, assuming she was as hot as you say, I think her loyalty to that circle would be forgotten.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1892767]I would agree that overall looks in the P4 P scene have been in decline for some time and are now really hitting the skids. Most of the gals I see in the oilies are far worse than the gals I used to pull off the street for 500 Baht 15 years ago. And GoGos, with the exception of a few lookers here and there the choices are very limited and the money they want; sheesh! BG Soi 7 has become a hangout for grandmothers. It is grim beyond grim. Even the FLs at Thermae are not so pretty anymore. Can't really comment on the discos as I don't go hunting at 2 am. Was in Pattaya last weekend and I did not really find it any better. Perhaps the folks doing the hiring are blind?[/QUOTE]You should head over to Amsterdam massage one of these days, they don't seem to have that problem. Climax is hit or miss on any given night, Nana and Soi Cowboy the same. Insanity and Thermae are getting old. I have forgotten about Mixx but I'm sure it's still full of Thai girls home from their working stints in Singapore, HK, and Malaysia, asking for the same money as they got over there. Now I prefer Sephan Kwai or less touristy spots. Plenty of hot ladies to be found in the BKK P4 P scene. Ramintha, Lat Phrao, Ratchada, Thonglor, amd RCA are refreshing changes.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1892767]I would agree that overall looks in the P4 P scene have been in decline for some time and are now really hitting the skids. Most of the gals I see in the oilies are far worse than the gals I used to pull off the street for 500 Baht 15 years ago. And GoGos, with the exception of a few lookers here and there the choices are very limited and the money they want; sheesh! BG Soi 7 has become a hangout for grandmothers. It is grim beyond grim. Even the FLs at Thermae are not so pretty anymore. Can't really comment on the discos as I don't go hunting at 2 am. Was in Pattaya last weekend and I did not really find it any better. Perhaps the folks doing the hiring are blind?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1887349]Right! And more mongers need to do that. Move on. We are always reading about mongers complaining how things have changed, and they are not to their liking, and the conclusion is that the location is not as good as it once was. They blame the problem on the situation, but I think the problem is with the mongers, who can't move on. They seem stuck in the same habit and they keep expecting the same results. Problem is that they are chasing their past. Same thing on the other forums: Sosua, Colombia, the German FKK thread. Mongers complain about the places not being like they remember them, and they complain of dissatisfaction and disappointment. I think they would avoid this disappointment if they could just try something different.

I don't mean to brag, but this past year, since my divorce last June has been a great year. I went to Berlin (my first visit to Europe in over a decade) and had some great mongering experiences in Berlin, as well as reconnecting with an old friend. Last month, I went to Medellin and had a great time there. Honestly, I would love to visit these places again. Medellin in particular is inexpensive to fly to (thanks to Spirit Airlines), it isn't a long journey and the mongering costs are dirt cheap. But, I think I would benefit from trying something new. As I mentioned earlier, I visited an old friend in Berlin. I asked if I could come back for a visit soon. He said "Sure, but you should really visit Asia first. " I didn't argue with him. So I am planning a trip to the LOS in the fall. I have little doubt I will have a blast. So what if some mongers don't like what it is now. What impact will that have on my visit? None! It will all be new to me. That said, all of you Thailand enthusiasts might consider a different continent with a different language. The Dominican Republic, Peru or maybe even Brazil (their currency has seriously devalued in recent years). Keep trying new things and you won't be too disappointed.[/QUOTE]Now this is the best advice for all of us, including me when I feel negative or get bored of the places or the girls seem ugly.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1892897]I love your stories mate but come on. Money talks and if you had of flashed 4 or 5 k her way, assuming she was as hot as you say, I think her loyalty to that circle would be forgotten.[/QUOTE]In principle, maybe, but on that night, not a chance. You needed to be there to understand the severity of the situation. I was shut out, and the door was slammed. One thing I failed to mention was the the offended girl (Tan) was actually there in the crowd, so that made it harder for the hot girl to ignore the social pressure.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1892932]In principle, maybe, but on that night, not a chance. You needed to be there to understand the severity of the situation. I was shut out, and the door was slammed. One thing I failed to mention was the the offended girl (Tan) was actually there in the crowd, so that made it harder for the hot girl to ignore the social pressure.[/QUOTE]I've got to tell you, I've been there and done that. I pushed right through and ushered the girl out the bar before her friends were the wiser. All you need to say is lets just go for some food and talk, then back to the bar. Before you know it, she will be in your bed going down on you. Just sayin!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1892937]I've got to tell you, I've been there and done that. I pushed right through and ushered the girl out the bar before her friends were the wiser. All you need to say is lets just go for some food and talk, then back to the bar. Before you know it, she will be in your bed going down on you. Just sayin![/QUOTE]You're a better reader of these situations that I am, obviously. It wasn't something I was able to do, but will concede that someone with your powers of persuasion could have pulled it off. Though this does not change my perspective on freebies, I also concede that they might be good for some people. Just not me.