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[QUOTE=Goyave]Finding one of this kind is not an impossible mission, but usually, you will have to marry her (which might become expensive in the long term anyway)... and you won't be allowed to (openly) be a "butterfly" anymore (or it might cost you your "dearer asset")! :D[/QUOTE]Not so true. I agree with Andy Abs, there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. Some are scared but interested, it's all about how you approach them.Money is really secondary because they want to have fun first. Goyave, no, you will not have to marry her, many girls not give their pussies away before marriage (a lot of them do so on the first date). However, MP lurker is correct about one thing, to bed a good thai lady, one would have to fork a little bit of cash in the begining.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Not so true. I agree with Andy Abs, there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. Some are scared but interested, it's all about how you approach them.Money is really secondary because they want to have fun first. Goyave, no, you will not have to marry her, many girls not give their pussies away before marriage (a lot of them do so on the first date). However, MP lurker is correct about one thing, to bed a good thai lady, one would have to fork a little bit of cash in the begining.[/QUOTE]I was mainly joking in my previous report, but it's true that most of the local good, young (19 to 25-year old) and beautiful non-P4P girls with a regular job and no kids who used to chase me when I was an available target in the single Farangs' market were real virgins (not kidding here!) and wanted to marry me! And those are no easy fucks: it's a real performance to get only a blow job from one of these girls (I failed more than once, and after several dates!). However, these girls will easily invite (along with several of their friends) several times a Farang at their own expenses (they are the ones who will fork some cash in the beginning, and they will be proud to do so).But I've also been with several other young Thai girls who are not working as prostitutes, but they are (at least in my eyes) more or less into P4P nonetheless, even if they are not directly requesting money. To summarize, I may say that I'd rather spend a few hours in a brothel than in a shopping mall with one of this other kind... and you certainly know what I mean. There is another kind of local girls and this kind certainly provides the easiest fucks outside the P4P market: girls who have been dumped by a Thai husband or boyfriend, and they are even easier targets when they have one or several children. But I'm not cynical enough to take advantage of those girls. Of course, YMMV, and the opportunities with "real" non-P4P girls might be more numerous in Bangkok than they are up country. Anyway, my own experience incites me to avoid the "real" (and "semi-real") non-P4P girls: much less drama with prostitutes for me.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. ..Money is really secondary..[/QUOTE]Really? Why would they 'relish the opportunity to be with a farang'? Maybe if the farang is 25 years old and extremely handsome. But attractiveness and class status being equal, the vast majority will prefer a Thai man.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Really? Why would they 'relish the opportunity to be with a farang'? Maybe if the farang is 25 years old and extremely handsome. But attractiveness and class status being equal, the vast majority will prefer a Thai man.[/QUOTE]Can not claim on the majority but I have a few girls 25 years old range that have been messed over by Thai guys (like farangs are any better :D ) that want a mature (35-45 year old) foreign guy that WORKS in Asia or is associated to asia (ie that knows about asian culture more then joe tourist). My university identical twins are masters students and are like this for example. Raised by a family of teachers, middle class, have cars, nice home, etc... They go out with thai friends (girls, guys, gays etc..) but they both refuse to enter relationship with thai guys. It took me a while to bed them and the one is now engaged to an American but the other one still sleeps over. She's even willing to travel from BKK to Pats to spend time with me. The parents are even happy she is in "relationship" with a "older" foreign "professional" guy. Quite a few ladies like this. Unfortunately, while the sex is very enjoyable it is more sensual and passionate but lacks the qty per day and she wants to be the ONLY girl in my life (which past history proves to be impossible for me to abide by).
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[QUOTE=Andy Abs]I don't feel I am unique in finding a normal Thai woman. I have friends that have found the ideal match. But then maybe it depends where you are looking for them?Take a look at Thailand, you might be surprised![/QUOTE]I have looked at Thailand for many years and have had normal Thai GFs (several). But as I said, the ones who cost me less than P4P were not expert in bed. Not enough experience. Others were more expensive than P4P.Its not easy to keep changing GFs till find a super fucker.Girls who don't do blow job often are probably not going to be expert. They often just do a token blow job and then complain jaw hurts.I prefer girls who are very experienced in the sex department. I am not going to worry about how many guys they got the experience from. That would be hypocritical!But seriosly the number of super looking, super cheap, super fuckers available to a 53 year old guy who doesn't live here asll the time is not a great percentage.I can get 2 out of the 3 criteria satisfied very easily. but getting all 3 is tough. I often berate myself for being so picky about looks.
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[QUOTE=M P Lurker]But seriosly the number of super looking, super cheap, super fuckers available to a 53 year old guy who doesn't live here asll the time is not a great percentage.I can get 2 out of the 3 criteria satisfied very easily. but getting all 3 is tough. I often berate myself for being so picky about looks.[/QUOTE]That's the fun of the chase... Half the fun is going out with each other and analyzing the talent and moving around looking for the top pick. But it's always best to have a back up girl no matter what she looks like as long as she is a top screw available for you. And when we were there last time you picked pretty damn quick (afraid I'd pick the girl maybe???) every time we were out together. Hell the one time I had not even sat down and you had already picked a girl and she met your requirements... I guess I"m just good luck for you :D
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Soi Cowboy
Have had some good luck with girls from Soi Cowboy recently. 5 out of 5 girls have been good and enthusiastic in bed. Girls came from Midnight, Baccara and Suzie Wong.I have more respect for some bar girls than for MP girls, as the better bar girls are able to knock back customers that don't appeal to them or don't offer enough money.The very pretty Baccara girl said she only goes with guys that are clean and respectful and give her a good viB. The reason is that most nights she has several guys vying for her. If the guy offers 3K for LT she is not interested, as she knows she will get two short times at 2K each very easily. So her LT fee is 4K minimum. She has a lot of regular customers too.I note many guys refuse to pay this much. The girl has every right to be not interested in the free market.Not all of the girls have this much control, but quite a few are not keen to go LT unless all conditions are right for them.
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[quote=tansak ktv]and when we were there last time you picked pretty damn quick (afraid i'd pick the girl maybe???) every time we were out together. hell the one time i had not even sat down and you had already picked a girl and she met your requirements... i guess i"m just good luck for you :d[/quote]ah, i do get lucky sometimes!its very rare for me to pick a girl so quickly. she turned out well. very nice body, face was at least a 7 out of 10, and was hot in the room. thought i was going to be raped in the bath! definitely a repeat girl. not suprisingly, she already has a bf.sometimes i have chosen a stand out girl (in my view) quickly for fear of someone else choosing her first and me being left with an ordinary selection. very selfish! ;) yesterday got a call from an ex-utopia girl, now supported by an old thai man. she must be bored and looking for some action, and remembering our hot sessions of the past (or maybe just my wishful thinking).
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Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info about the lady Fa at Aurora Massage. Her usual price is probably more than 800B. But it's nice to know she has a good heart, and she is good looking too. Perhaps your few minutes of fingering lady Fa during the massage made her such a good fuck. I found from my own experience that massaging the lady's pussy with a well-lubricated hand for a few minutes usually sets her up for a good fuck. This is a form of clitoro-labial masturbation for the lady that can actually bring her to orgasm if you do it well enough and long enough. But this is also a good way to arouse the lady to the point where she physically wants to fuck. Which makes her a great fuck. Even an experienced lady usually needs good foreplay from her guy to give him a good fuck. Because it's hard for her to get excited about fucking a stranger, when she does this every day several times a day. But if that stranger happens to masturbate her well to the point where she physically wants to fuck. Then excited about fucking him she certainly will be. And she can get excited like that several times a day, if need be. Because physical masturbation causes physical arousal every time.The only thing is that some ladies don't let guys masturbate them like that. Perhaps it's like kissing. They don't want to fall in love. They want to keep their psychological distance from the guy. But for me sex isn't real, unless I know the lady wants to fuck. And the only way I can know that is by masturbating the lady to the point where I can see with my own eyes that she is aroused, panting, and ready to fuck. And it's nice to know about lady Fa at Aurora Massage. She sounds like the kind of lady who will let her guy masturbate her every time. And she is good looking too. Which puts her on my list of ladies to do.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]They don't want to fall in love.[/QUOTE]So when they say they love me, you think they actually mean it? Wow, I mean, I always knew I was a good fuck, but not that good. I'll have to re-think my strategy and fuck them badly so as not to break their heart when I don't return to love them back. :D
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Well done on being on topic and correct to the thread header.Looks like NicFrenchy and boyfriend Tansak KTV are missing the limelight and cannot chat as they do on the lodge thread, they have to start infecting other threads with pathetic comments and off topic crap.It would be nice if the moderator removed half the crap and sarcastic BS they post on threads thats off topic and just "give me some attention" type posts.[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dan7373]Thanks for the info about the lady Fa at Aurora Massage. Her usual price is probably more than 800B.[/QUOTE]Her original price was 1500. She'll come down to 1000 if she likes you or needs the money.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Her original price was 1500. She'll come down to 1000 if she likes you or needs the money.[/QUOTE]The massage business probably isn't as good this year as it was in previous years. Fewer tourists are coming to Thailand now due to high unemployment in many countries. And for this reason many massage ladies probably are willing to accept lower prices and attract more customers their way this way.But I wouldn't bargain with a lady like that or try to lower her price. Because in Thailand P4P relationships most often aren't strictly business the way it is in the West. It's more like friend with benefits type of relationship. That's why P4P Thai ladies often give such a good GFE experience for their guys. But haggling with the lady about her price spoils that friend with benefits type of relationship and makes it strictly business. Which is a turn off for me.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]So when they say they love me, you think they actually mean it? :D[/QUOTE]Of course they do! Don't you remember they also want you to reciprocate and ask you "do you love me long time?"