New to Cali, advice appreciated
Hi folks,
I'm thinking of visiting Cali in the beginning of 2015. I speak a B1-level Spanish, and I will have a month or so.
I've got a few questions (please, answer) and a few possibly wrong assumptions (please correct).
Media:
- Does it make sense to use dating sites to pre-arrange some encounters? Can you recommend any based on a personal successful experience?
- Does placing ads in the local papers work, or is it in the past in Colombia, too?
- What about semi-pros, and the ways to find them (or let them find you)? For instance, I guess banging your Spanish teacher can be quite fun, and you'll get your Subjuntivo right, too.
- I'm tall, physically fit, but still. My hair is gray and I do not need to show my passport to prove I'm in my late 40-s. I'm not particularly interested in women over 30. Does it make much sense to fish in the night clubs or a local supermarket (Chipichapi was the name, wasn't it?) for a less "mechanical" and more long-term experience? Or should I just stop being creative and to go to "casas" like people do?
I have picked Cali for the following reasons (please correct if wrong):
- It is less touristic than Bogota, Medellin or Cartagena.
- Given the above, there costs must be lower and the service less formal.
- The city is big enough to provide the choice.
- Less English spoken = more practice in Spanish.
- Less other "gringos" = a "gringo" better stands out of the crowd (is that seen as an advantage?
Thanks in advance.
Semi-pros: decent ways to make an indecent proposal
You meet a woman, a potential "semi-pro". After some smalltalk / ice-creams / cocktails / whatnot, you eventually reach the point when you want to get to the business, but you want to say it in formally-decent way. In Scandinavia, it is "a cup of coffee at my place". It is never misinterpreted if the acquaintance is fresh, but leaves you some space for retreat in case of miscalculation. What is the "code-phrase (s)", if any, in Cali (or Colombia for that matter)?
Is there any particular idiom to hint you don't mind to pay for the fun?
La 20 and South Side Compilation: 2011-14
I am reposting the previous reports about bar la 20 and the surrounding area. The great majority of reports were contributed by bayboy. Thanks a lot, bayboy!
Here's the basic info about la20 provided by bayboy: la20 is open from 2 pm-10 pm. Drinks are 2, 500 for beers and mixed drinks and soft drinks are 2, 000. More exotic drinks are more expensive. For the girls its 40 k for a half hour and 50 k for an hour, unless its gone up recently. Chicas in their 20's 30's and 40's. Full figured, with big tits in skimpy outfits. Chica drinks for the same price as for the guys. It's a blue collar crowd, sometimes loud and some hard drinking Colombians, but I always have felt safe in there. Guard at the door gives a body patdown to check for weapons. No food. No english spoken. Nice rooms upstairs, some with round beds. Mirrors on the ceiling and walls. Nice bathrooms with showers. There's la20 #2 across the street, but I've never seen much action in there, just a few girls at a time.
Action in Cali bayboy 3/23/11.
! hay carumba! Dr. Amor is all that I've heard about. Got there in the afternoon and was let in to a large living room, very modern, with comfortable couches. There were 11 Colombian guys there already, but I soon realized they were just looking at the merchandise and not buying. 25 to 30 good'looking chicas were marched out in front of me. 95 percent very doable. Oh choices, choices. But I'm particular to milfs) maduras) and took a sexy one into the next living room. It was the processing place, where I paid at the window and the chica took the preservativos, towels, soap, lotion etc.
We went to an ample room downstairs. Had a big bed and was nicely furnished. She gave me a covered BJ, tongue job, screwed on top for awhile and finished with a handjob. Great personality and willing to do anything. Saety, spelling, was her name or something like that. Real nice place all in all, very professional.
Later on I went to bar la viente. It took me a while to realize it was on the south side of town, in the po' section. But once I got inside I felt comfortable. A very blue collar place, the chicas we not as good a looking as Dr. Amor, but I like gritty places. There were dozens of Colombian guys there nursing their drinks. Also about 20 chicas of varying degrees and races. I picked out a MILF, I think her name was Roberta and we went across the street to a short time hotel. I paid the mamasan and we went to a room, that wasnt that bad inside with a comfortable bed. This chica was pretty wild, she was willing to do all kinds of kinky stuff even things I couldn't go with, but she was fun, with a great personality. I just couldn't get into eating her pussy, but I did put my finger in there. She put a finger up my culo while giving me a blowjob. Well I won't go into all these details. But I had a great time there, would go back. Even though the neighborhood is very iffy, at best. Out.
More Cali bayboy 9/21/11.
I decided to go bar hopping today in the afternoon. First stop on the south side.
Bar la viente. Got there at 2:30 and ordered a beer. A big place, but only had about 8 chicas working, mostly youngish. They were kind of sexy but I just couldn't get enthused about any of them, plus the energy level was low in there. So I walked over to.
Bar Sonero. Got there at 3 and it was jumping. Must have been at least 25 chicas in 3 rooms. These ladies are slutty-sexy, wearing skimpy outfits. The salsa, merengue, tango music was blaring loud kind of like a big party. Finally picked out one of the few maduras, which is what I prefer. Alejandra was her name. Got a room upstairs for 40 k half hour. She had a fun personality and did the chupa-lengua thing. Tried her best to please me. I left with a good feeling about her and the bar.
There are some good lunch places on the north side of Cali. For about 5 k got a big lunch. Carne, chicken, pork, or pasta, plus the rice and beans, salad and plantain.
Bar Sonero bayboy 9/21/11.
Nclpimp. No, bar Sonero's address is calle 19, carrera 8. Its on the south side of the Cali river. I'm going tomorrow (Thur.) late in the afternoon. Pm me if you want to hook up.
Today, I went back to bar la viente and it was a totally different story. At least 3 xs the number of chicas. And my type, slutty-sexy in skimpy outfits many with huge tits hanging out. It was Christmas in Sept. Ended up with julie. Had a fun session with her, she did the chupa-lengua-lamber thing the way I like it.
When I was here in March they were taking the guys across the street to the other viente's hotel. Now, there's rooms available upstairs for the clients pleasure.
Bar la Veinte Member #4394 3/27/12.
First of all, thanks a lot to bayboy and wt69 for the info about Cali. I arrived at the airport last Friday, around 1 pm. It was a fairly small airport. It needs an escalator, though. After I checked in at my hotel, I walked 2 blocks to the ave. Sexta. While I had expected a wide, trendy boulevard, the ave. Sexta was a mediocre street.
Around 7 pm, I arrived at 'bar la 20 (veinte). ' it was a seedy neighborhood, but the bar was a decent place. There were 2 security guards in front of the door, checking customers' bodies. Later they became friendly to me and asked many questions about me. The place was very big with a lot of ceiling fans. The place was packed. There were probably more than 100 guys and 40-50 girls. They had a strip dance and live band music alternating every 30-40 minutes. A bottle of beer was 2. 5 k pesos. All the girls, except one, had big asses, and many of them were fat (in Medellin standards). But, they may not look fat in the eyes of Cali locals. The locals and the girls at the bar came and took to me, and they were very friendly. Two guys bought me a beer. I stayed at the bar for an hour, and left for club Sonero, which was a block away.
A friendly security guard at club Sonero welcomed me. As I entered sonero, I saw only 3-5 girls and a few guys. So, I left sonero and went back to la 20. In la 20,20-30 girls came to me and offered a service. One of them was the girl, who was not fat (later she told me that she was a paisa from Medellin). I asked her for BBBJ, and she said no problem. So I paid 40 k peso for o. 5 HR at a cashier-like counter. In the room, I asked for a massage on my foot, and she gave me a decent massage for about 10 mnts. After that she massaged my junior and soon began BBBJ before I asked. The sex was good but not spectacular. She had a likable, nice personality. On Sunday, about 5 pm, I came back to la 20. There were about 30-40 guys and 20-30 girls. The paisa girl came to me and started to caress me (I was checking if her hand would move to my pocket, but it did not). She asked me to go upstairs, but I politely declined. In an hour I just left the place to see amiga.
Overall, to me, Medellin girls look better than calenas. Also I prefer restaurants / food in Medellin to those in Cali. Cali was a city smaller than I expected. I had a good time in Cali, but I am not sure if I go back.
Cali bayboy 5/11/12.
My first full day in Cali after flying in last night from Miami. I'm getting used to the heat and the food. Just love those cafeteria, sidewalk cafes here where I can get a meal (rice, beans, salad, platano, carne and drink) for $5 k.
My first stop in the afternoon was clinica Dr amor. 20 chicas marched out of the back and shook my hand and told me their names. I finally picked helen and chose the 15 minute session ($26) in the small cabinas. She did a good tongue job on my balls and shaft before putting on the preservativo. Great blowjob for the session.
Then I walked over to bar la veinte (8 to 9 blocks). About 20 girls in there rep001 tered around. All with huge tits and bubble asses. It was heaven. I picked Kandy (in her 30's, blond) and did the half hour thing $40 k. She was pretty wild, did the blow job thing with deep throat and lots of tongue action. Did her backside also. Great attitude, might try her again tomorrow.
Walked over to club Sonero. 1 block away. About 17 chicas in there. Mostly plain looking and none of them turned me on. But I did do a lot of flirting while having my beer. They were dancing with the guys to the samba, meringue music, which was kind of lively. Walked out without having a sexo session.
More Cali stuff bayboy 5/12/12.
I'm staying at the Windsor hotel. Don't know if its chica friendly, I do my thing on the location.
Took Member #4394's advice and went down carrera 8, 3 blocks from club Sonero (ended at calle 16). Didn't find many streetwalkers (1 looked like a tranny, couldn't tell). But there were 5 short-time hotels on the walk, with chicas standing out front. Most weren't that good looking, but there were a few that looked sexy. One hotel was down a sidestreet. They were charging $20 k plus $8 k for the room.
I even tried one of them (silia). Good blowjob. But this is low down stuff. I was thinking it made bar la veinte look like the moulin rouge. Out.
Cali streetwalkers bayboy 5/18/12.
I've been in Cali the last 3 days. Been sessioning mostly with streetwalkers in front of short time hotels on carrera 8 bet. Calles 19-16, down from club Sonero.
The surprising thing has been how safe it is (in the afternoon) and how friendly the chicas are. My 2 favorites are Gloria and Lorena.
This is BBBJ stuff with deep-throat to the max and lots of tongue action. The way I like it.
Club sonero has been a disappointment, most of the chicas just aren't that good looking to me. Bar la 20 has had its full compliment of chicas except for one day there was only 10 girls there. Been enjoying the beers there.
Bar la 20 nyajoes 8/30/12.
I went to bar la 20, which has a part a and be, one across the street from the other. Heading to there from the square, I saw another dingy looking place that opened later in the day. Late in the afternoon, when I was done with bl20, I went to check it out but the quality of chicas was pretty low. Was in the area early, so I walked around a bit. Going to the left of the corner after bl20, I saw nothing much. To the right of the corner, though, I saw quite a few street walkers that were hiding from the heat in stairwells of various locations, mostly in hospedajes or something similar. Then, when I was walking back later to bl20, I saw a security guard posted in this no-name corner near bl20, maybe on street 21 or 22. I went in for a look and the quality of the chicas were average to below average with 1 or 2 above average. Didn't do anything there, since the 2 above average ones kinda just sat there, disinterested.
On with bl20.
I was there sitting for a while. There were 2 chicas that caught my eye. I tried to make eye contact with both (one at a time, of course) , but they didn't respond. So finally, I went for a younger looking negrita. She would do almost everything, except anal and BBBJ (which does not really matter to me). We went up. Great thing about this place is there's a shower in the room. When I went out later, I also found a room full of bedsheets and bath towels, a testament to some degree of cleanliness. The chica was great. I enjoyed her.
Cali scene bayboy 8/30/12.
Bar la 20 opens at 2 pm, and club sonera (calle 19, carrera 8) opens at 2 pm also. Dr. Amor opens at around 10 am. All of those places are safe to be in. I've gone up carrera 8 from 19th to 16th, there's 4-5 short time hotels with chicas standing out front. I found them to be scrufty, down and dirty, but safe inside. Around the corner from club sonero on 19th theres a short time hotel with usually 4-5 black chicas out front. Never tried the place. Give those places a try. I'll be there in 2 weeks.
Adventures on carrera 8 bayboy 9/15/12.
My 1st day in Cali, enjoying the scene here, being on the north side. After going to the bank, getting a haircut, and having lunch at genar pan, my favorite cafeteria-style restaurant (they serve lunch plates with the rice, beans, salad, platano and beef for $5 k) I walked over to el centro.
Plaza Caicedo had a few prostitutas but none of them really turned me on, not very good looking at all. So I walked over to carrera 8. The 1st short time hotel had 5 chicas there and one of my favorites, gloria. She must of been drunk or something because she only charged me $12 k for the session. She does a super deep throat, the best in Cali and lets me move her head up and down the way I like it.
Next I walked 2 blocks over to another short hotel and picked out lola. She insisted on using a preservativo and I couldn't get more than 1/2 hard no matter how hard she tried. Just couldn't get off with her. Then I walked over to bar la20. Had a club Colombian cerveza and relaxed a bit. Must have been 15 chicas in there. Some good looking, some with the bubble butts and big tits, it was heaven. Mostly teased with the chicas cause I didn't have enough dinero for a session. After a while in there, walked over to the short time hotel on calle 19 just down from club sonero.
Picked out a young negra, her name was Abra, or something like that. She did a good bare-back blow job in that scruffy hotel. Which felt safe to me to be in. By then I was out of money, so I just limped back to the hotel and took a nap. Out for now.
New area bayboy 9/20/12.
I made a wrong turn down carrera 7 and guess what, I found numerous short time hotels with at 4 chicas standing out front. Between 15th and 16th there were 3 hotels, mostly black chicas in front, one with all Latina. I went 2 blocks down and found another short timer, then I turned right on 19th street and there was another one near the corner.
These gals didn't look all that great, but one only asked 15 k which I thought was about right for the area.
I{ll probably stay with my favorites on carrera 8 namely Gloria and Lorena, Lorena is a sweetheart with a great personality and real friendly.
Downtown adventures mr enternational 1/19/13.
I ran the gamut just like bayboy said. The taxi dropped me off at cra 8 and calle 19. I walked around the whole few blocks checking things out. It was kind of hard to get my bearings and see what was going on because the entire place is a like a builder's supply district. So I had to keep my eyes peeled and peek into crevices to see what was going on behind the scenes. The street walkers went from old and fat to younger and ugly. There were not many options so I settled for who might have been the same person bayboy mentioned. She said her name was CodeWord901. She was old and fat but the least ugly of them all. I asked her how much and she said 20 k. I went in then she told me it is an extra 7 k for the room. I shouted like little' jon. What! She said okay 5 k. I gave her the 25 k and she went to pay for the room. When she came back I took out a magnum ecstasy. She said those are not from here. I said how do you know? She said because it is big, and guys here have small dicks. Oh well. I told her I was from Brazil and commenced to tearing ass up. She wouldn't tell me her real age. She kept saying 92. She had a breast reduction somewhere along the line.
Bayboy also mentioned club sonera. I think I went into the place if that is it pictured below. There was no sign anywhere. I didn't talk to anyone I just walked through to check it out. After that I walked around again and had lunch at zar pollo on the corner of cra 7 and calle 15. It cost me 15 k for a rib dinner with a chicken feet soup appetizer, mango juice and ripe plantain for desert.
There is a st hotel right across calle 15 from it. There was a yellow sign above it that said tornillos (spanish for screws). I walked past and lo and behold there was the best street walker that I had seen today. I didn't mess with her though. I had to save my power for a non-pro tonight. I walked a couple of more blocks but was talking to a friend about it on facebook through my phone. He told me to go take a picture so I doubled back and took one from across the street and sent it to him.
The only mixed chicas I really saw were really old and ugly. All of the younger girls were black and also ugly. The exception was the one under the tornillos sign.
I started getting more comfortable right before 6 when it was getting dark and all the businesses were closing. Now the chaff was separating from the wheat and I could tell who was who and what was what. See when the businesses are open there are many women patronizing them as well as working at them so it is not as hard as you think to get one confused with an sw, especially when your mind is in mongering mode. I continued down the street arguing on facebook with my ex-girlfriend. She wanted me to meet her for dinner at 7 close to her house because she has to work early in the morning, but I wanted her to come to av 6 more around 8 and spend the night. So that ended up being a bust. I continued on looking for bar la 20.
Bar la 20: the return mr enternational 1/19/13.
So I went back to la 20 last night about 9:20 and found a big titty girl. She asked if I wanted a session and I said of course, how much? She said 40 k. I laughed in her face. (all part of my game since the girl earlier had already told me she would take 35 k so I figured most of them would.) she quickly lowered to 35 k and I accepted. Right before negotiations started the waitress came over. The girl asked me to buy her a drink but I said no. A few minutes later the waitress came back with a drink for the girl? Shit it was only 2500 pesos though. Normal prices, unlike what a clip joint would try to get you for. She said she was from Medellin and had gone to the university for international business, but came to Cali to make some money. She said Medellin was very small and if she was working the trade back there then her friends and family would surely know. She asked if I was married and I told her no, that I didn't even want a girlfriend. She said she was also happy to be single. I told her,"I can cook and clean my damn self, but I can't fuck myself. And that is where you come in. " she said she was happy to oblige.
When I finished my drink I told her I was ready. She poured the rest of her drink into a cup and we were off through an adjoining door to see a lady about a room. I gave the girl 50 k and she gave it to the lady inside the cage. It looked like the lady gave her 42 k back and she put it into her back pocket (she was wearing jeans). I reached for her pocket to get the money that I was owed but she knocked my hand away and gave me a look like "shut the fuck up. " so I was thinking that maybe they are supposed to charge a certain price and she didn't want the lady to know she charged me less. We went up to the room.
The room was pretty nice for hoarhouse standards, and damn clean to say the least. There was a round bed and a TV that the girl went to search for pornos on. On the other side of a wall was a bathroom with a sink, toilet, and a shower (cold water only I think) and it was really clean as well. We got into the session and she was riding me like she was trying to knock my dick through the mattress. The bed literally went from the far corner of the room diagonally to in front of the door. If the door would not have been there to stop it then we would have fucked right out into the hall and down the steps. She must have been in the zone or something because she seriously blamed me for the bed moving when all the while it was her reverse cowgirl skills that did it.
After the session she went in to take a shower while I washed my dick in the sink. We came out and got dressed. All the while I'm thinking I hope this be don't think I forgot about my change. She must have been reading my mind because just as I was about to ask for mi vuelta she reached into one of her pockets and gave me 10 k pesos. It seemed kind of strange because I thought she only owed me 7 k.
We went downstairs and I told her bye and I went outside. La 20 a had already closed and girls were walking from there across the street to la 20 be where it looked like the party was continuing. I stood outside a while longer then walked to the corner of cra 7 peering down the street in contemplation of whether to retrace my steps from earlier in the day in order to see if the street walkers were still conducting business. It looked pretty desolate down that street so I was pretty much like fuck that. I hailed down the next taxi and told him to take me back to la sexta. I stared down each calle and into each doorway on cra 7 as the driver sped towards calle 15. After he made the right turn I stared down each carrera. There wasn't any action. I was glad I didn't attempt the walk. I arrived at my hotel on la sexta 5000 pesos later.
Bottom feeder is here feeding at the bottom, Bottom Feeder 3/17/14.
Been here three days so far. Sunday is never slow for me. I do 2 hour sessions (50.000) with girls fron Park Caicedo on Sunday. Rest, play, rest etc. You know the story of the Old Bull and the young Bull, well that's me. Great action at Bar la Veinte, Sonoro and I tried a new place for me, Capricho (on the Map). Small. 3 girls. 30 k for 1/2 HR. 45 for HR. I tried Isabel was great, good body and attitude. I will do her several more times this trip. My God, $15 for 30 grloious minutes. I'm moving here so I'll look for an apt while I'm here. She gave me a card of a sister club, Melao cr 10 # 6-63 I'll try tomorrow. 20 min 20 k 30 min 30 k 9-7 Mon thru Saturday. 885-0025. Girls at Eventos young and hungry for biz but I'm too old for them and it was too late for me. Met a German who lives her. If you read this g-Man, I have your info and I need apt and Frankfert info. PM me. Over and out.
Naughty Milkman, Bottom Feeder 3/21/14.
I love the down and dirty. Needing to go lower and dirtier I started looking around. Only 25 paces to the left of Bar La Viente II is Bar Gardinia. I've never been there but it look seedy enuf for now. Mostly fat and feo chicas but then an angel appeared, well MY kind of angel. A young black chica with big tits lookin' a little sleepy, sittin' all alone. But what caught my eye was two MILK stains on her tee shirt. Yeah, you got it I'm a f-ing prevert for sucking the real thing while banging away. Need protein. I couldn't tell if she was sleepy, drunk or high but I just wanted to get her upstairs or wherever you go there. Who cares lets go. How much baby, $100.000, 200.000? Hey BF, calma calma!"40.000 por 30 minutos". I have never paid that much in Cali before but WTF. OK. I paid at the bar and we went up the tricky staircase (think Villa Mimosa in Rio). Ah, heaven. She must have been ready to suckle cause she was spurting once I got her goin' and she was enjoyin' it, at least I thought she was cause she kept dosing off. I don't mind banging a very drunk chick but a semi-conscious one gives me the shivers. Oh well, bang bang suck suck then after about 10 minutes an angry knock at the door. WTF! An old lady was at the door screaming at me with a baby in a carrier and handed the kid to ME and split. F! The girl didn't seem to notice. I looked at the kid. They all look the same. I was stealing its milk! WTF the kid was fat. I set it down gently by the bed and went back to work. After a few minutes more of pure ecstasy the kid starts to whimper. I grab the top of the carrier with my big toe and rock the cradle so I can keep on. Rule #1. At my age, if you ever get a boner, use it fast! The girl seemed oblivious to all this. The kid quieted down, I guess my toe has got the rhythm and then I blow a magnificent load, well any load for me is magnificent! Then I notice that the room is lighter. I look around and there three chicas looking in through the door and they burst into laughter. One comes in and picks up the baby and says to me laughing in broken English, 'Naughty milkman! '.
Cali Report, BayBoy 4/1/14.
Here's my 2 day Cali report.
Sunday was generally slow with one exception. Went to Plaza Caicedo it was dead. Went along Carrera 7 and 8 it was dead. Even Club Son Sonero wasnt much happening. But when I got to Bar La20 it was jumping. About 30 chicas, lots of good looking ones, plus a lot of hard drinking Colombian dudes. It was crowded. Finally ended up with Patricia. Gave me a terrible covered blow job, just a waste of time.
Monday was different. Plaza Caicedo still not much happening, but along Carrera 8 was one of my favorite chicas Gloria. Went up stairs and she gave me a blowjob-deepthroat to die for. She not only goes down and takes it all in she holds it there too. Man she is good. Cost 25 K included the room. Then I went over to Son Sonero and it was hopping, lots of chicas at least 20 and the music was blaring that Cuban style salsa music. Lots of chocolate brown morenas there plus some white and black chicas too. People were dancing in the small dance floor. Spent about an hour there until I took a picture in the back and the security guard got real angry at me. Figured I should get out of Dodge. Went over to Bar La20. Fair number of chicas about 15, pretty good selection, some good looking ones. Finally ended up some chica can't remember her name. She gave me a pretty good blow job even some deepthroat too, but with a condom. Spent an hour there and felt worn out. Went back to the hotel.
Disappintment in Cali, Love Handler 4/3/14.
Following recommendations on the forum, I visted Cali a few weeks ago, I managed to find the Bar La 20 on Calle 19 and, much more difficult, San Sonero. The taxi drivers didn't know where it was.
Tip: its a croner bar with a small discrete opening on Carrera 7 with a sort of polished steel frontage, near to various local business, I was expecting various chica bars next to each other with neon lights as per Sante Fe in Bogota, however its much different.
I was not that impresses with La 20 or Sonero although I must state I was looking for negras, which were in short supply. There was only 1 in La 20, although one apeared later on at 4 pm in the sister bar across the road, but no BBBJ on the Carta so I left.
San Sonero, which I expected to be full of slutty negras, was lacking. I didn't see one.
There were some in the streets, but of poor description and some on the Carrera 7 were evidently menfolk.
I left Cali with no apprecation of its pussy for sale as had run out of both browsing and exercise time. Perhaps it was a bad day.
I had previously arrived at the Clinica and although there was some choice, I left to get some sweaty black pussy at the run down centre.
Unfortunately it didn't happen. I will probably retun the the Clinica next time for guaranteed adventures in chocha.
I read other reports with interest. Cali remains in my monger book as "return visit required" but certainly not in my top ten.
Todays Action, BayBoy 4/3/14.
Went to Club Son Sonero today and saw at least 6 negras there. Ended up with Brenda, a tall, older negra and went up to the room with her. Its 30 K for a half hour. She gave me a covered chupa and did a finger wave in my culo, very nice affair, friendly personality.
DIFFERENCES bet. Bar La20 and Sonero. The chicas are better looking in La20 and a little classier. Sonero plays that samba, salsa, meringue music real loud and it gets me going.
One way to make the money in those places is to be a waiter or waitress and get tips. 90% of the guys go in to those two places to drink only, many of them don't seem too interested in havng sex with the chicas. A lot of the guys drink real heavy, besides the beer, its the hard stuff straight, shot after shot until they pass out, its funny.
Jinxx, 6//23/14.
I went to check out Bar La 20 a couple of weeks ago and I wasn't that impressed. I saw maybe 15 chicas with only maybe 3 doable on a Wednesday night. I love the big booties and I remember someone here saying how this place was full of big booty hoes. That's not what I found at all. There were quite a few bad shaped fake butt implants. I ended up going witha thin morena with a nice sized culo and a very pretty face, don't remember her name. When we got to the room and she got the condom on me she pulled out a bottle of baby oil and starts lubing up her snatch and my covered cock with it. I tried to explain to her that she should be using a water based lube since the baby oil can eat through the latex and cause the comdom to break. She seemed like she wasn't buying what I told her and said that she'd never had a problem using baby oil. That kind of threw me off because I then became a little worried that the condom might break. Then since she claimed that my cock was too big that she had to keep her hand blocking me from going all the way inside her. So I ended up fucking her hand and maybe 3 inches of her pussy, which was annoying. I pounded her the best I could and I still busted a nut because this girl really had a very beautiful face and lips that looked awesome while she was getting fucked.
I hit Dr. Amor about three times while I was in town and I was very impressed with how nice the place is. The last time I went I took this swiss guy with me who is totally against paying for pussy. I told him he could just chill and drink a beer while I did a 30 minute session, that way he could at least scope out the scene. I told him they'd bring out like 10 or 15 gorgeous chicas in the presentation. Holy shit we were blown away, they brought out at least THIRTY chicas for the presentation. This swiss guy couldn't believe his eyes it was funny as hell. The only problem is there are so many girls I can't remember the names of the girl I want to pick when it comes time to choose. I wanted this big booty morena that I saw but the workers couldn't find her for me, so I ended up with another young hottie. You really can't go wrong in this place as far as looks. It was funny when I finished and I walked back to the waiting area my swiss buddy was there and it was like all eyes on him with the chicas. He's a young, handsome, blonde guy and the chicas were doing their best to flirt with him so he would pick one of them to fuck. This guy had some strong will power because I know he's a horny bastard. Me and him were all over the girls at our hostel and at the bars we were hanging out at.
Cali milk. Thomasb 10/18/14.
I am loving Cali too as I arrived a few day ago and find it a pretty interesting place. Today, I moved from my cheap Air be&be apartment to a luxury boutique hotel in Granada, several blocks from Avenida Sexta.
Today, I went to Clinica Dr. Amor. Frankly, I was contemplating leaving as I found most of the chicks to heavy for my tastes. Some look like they could play women's rugby, no problem. It was definitely MILF Ville too.
However, since there is no pressure there, I thought that I would hang a bit and have a beer. The girls enter at the same door as the clients so after a while a few new girls arrived. I noticed one really cute and petite morena in her early 20's. I selected her for an hour and the session was outstanding. As it turns out, she recently had a kid, and her breasts started to drip a tasty white substance towards the end of the session. She liked playing her nipples and moving the milk around her breasts and stomach. Pretty sexy -- believe me. With that action, I asked her if she could come to my hotel tomorrow. She said sure and quoted $250 k pesos TLN or $120 USD. A bit higher than your price but not completely unreasonable.
The unbelievable part was the one hour session there with this girl who provided great attitude cost me $70 k or about $33 USD. I gave her a small propina to seal the deal--I hope but I was under the impression that tipping is a rarity here. There is no cover and the beer and a water was $2. 75 while I drank in the scene. The girls do not kiss here but perhaps a GFE might occur tomorrow night.
There was a model show at the Hotel Spivak in the Chipchape Mall yesterday. Really a lot fun to observe but again, it's hard to believe the asses on some of these girls especially in bikinis. The lithe Brazilian type body were not in the building.
Clinica Dr. Amor, Thomasb 11/4/2014.
If you read my report down below from a few weeks ago, you would have noticed that my assessment of Dr. Clinica was the same as yours. Nary an attractive one in the bunch and quite disappointing overall. Some really big girls.
I did go back again one more time as I wanted to ask the flaca I was with the first time why she didn't show up to my hotel the following night as she agreed. She said that she lost my card. Actually, I gave her two cards, mine and the hotel business card so a pretty lame excuse.
Then, I asked her if the other girls did lesbian action and she said it could be arranged but since I did not like the talent to begin with, I decided to pass.
On my second visit, the lineup on the first go-around was actually ok but somewhere between the first line up and the second when they again paraded through, the few hot ones had disappeared. I am hoping the prices you mentioned were misstated. I paid the flaca girl something like $80 COP for an hour so your prices of $200 to $300 COP seem excessively high.
I saw a lot of hot girls walking around ChipeChape Mall, in the salsa clubs, on the streets, and the high end entertainment area called Granada but these girls are only available if you speak Spanish well and are also connected into the social scene or living there. A really nice alternative to the Spivak Hotel is the Hotel Now in the Granada area, which is near Sexta Avenue and other entertainment venues. It's a very impressive boutique hotel.
Bad experience at Love Doctor
I was in Cali recently & had a very unfortunate experience at La Clinica. I've been going to Cali & this place since before the housing bubble burst! But after what happened on this trip I will never set foot in Dr. Amor again, but I will continue to visit Cali. Keep in my mind that I'm very conversational in Spanish (a must in Cali) so all the interactions in this report were in Spanish.
After seeing a couple of rounds of presentations, I zeroed in on one chica who was exactly my body type. I called for her in the lounge area to give her the typical interview. She seemed like a pretty cool chick & passed all of my tests. She told me she had worked briefly at La Clinica before, but hadn't been there for 5 months. This was actually her 1st day back to the place. That turned out to be a problem in the end.
I took care of the damage & off we went to a fairly large room. The girl was banging & the session was very satisfying. After I filled the cup, she cleaned up & quickly got dressed & I started to do the same. At this point, as I always do on trips, I told her I had a surprise for her & asked her to close her eyes. She did and I pulled out my digicam. I told her to open her eyes, showed her the cam & asked if I could take pics of her. Up to that point the girl had been a complete angel, but all of a sudden the demon in her came out!
She immediately said she doesn't like pics, so I asked her what about if her face wasn't shown or if she wanted a tip. She then asked to see the camera & I let her. She started to play w / the shooting modes, which was fine, but then she tried to figure out how to review the pics I had on there. Once I saw that I took the camera back & said I can't show you the pics I have on there. Then she said I want to see if you have any pics of me on there. Huh? I told her how could I when I just asked you if I could take a pic of you! She said if I didn't show her the pics on the cam that she call the administration. I refused so she went ahead & called the office to send someone up.
Again, I'm very competent in Spanish & I've a Cali vet, so I finished getting dressed & waited for the hosts to arrive. When they got there I explained exactly what happened to them, but the girl insisted that I show her or them the pics on the camera "just in case" I somehow was able to take a pic of her w / o her knowledge! Unfortunately the hosts asked me to comply & I started to get pissed. I told them that I never had an opportunity to take a pic of her so why would I show anyone the pics on my camera (which, of course, were of other females)!
Next the owner of the place is called to the room & the girl sticks to her demand. I explained the same thing to him & pointed out that she never said that she saw or heard me take a pic of her! The owner then proceeded to give me a short dissertation of prostitute's rights in CO & said that he could call the police to settle this if I wanted! I told him that if you make me show you my private property just so I could leave your establishment freely, I will never come back & I will report the incident online. He said that didn't matter, so I went ahead & showed him the pics on my digicam & obviously none of them were of this crazy chica! I was then finally allowed to leave.
First, for those wondering, in this instance I followed the exact same approach to asking for pics that I always do & which is successful the majority of the time. Sometimes girls just flat out refuse, sometimes they can be convinced if the face isn't shown & sometimes they can be persuaded w / a little extra donation. But I've never had a casa (or FL) chica ever make a scene like that, esp. considering the fact that no pic was ever taken! Now I do accept that you have to expect the unexpected in this hobby, which involves dealing w / 20-something females. But what really bothered me was that the house immediately took the female's side & leaned on me! Both the hosts & the owner told me they understood & agreed 100% w / how I described the situation, but they insisted that I show what was on the cam just to make the girl feel at ease.
Now I was able to handle the situation calmly & suffered no harm other than a little frustration & a small invasion of privacy. But what happens if another foreigner who doesn't speak Spanish well (or at all) runs into a problem w / a chica? No matter what the stories are, the customer will be SOL, at the mercy of the house? As they say, it's never a good idea to let the inmates run the asylum!
Just to be clear, this is NOT a Cali issue. On this recent trip I got pics from 85% of the chicas I saw w / o problem. It seems to me that La Clinica has reached a point where the chicas take themselves a bit too seriously. Perhaps it's all the wristband nonsense, website, etc. Now don't get me wrong, I've had less than great service at several other places around town, but I've beve been involved in a confrontation like this w / a chica (or anyone else in a casa FTM). So I'll be keeping my promise to the owner. There are too many (& I really mean many) other casas in Cali where the client is king! AAMOF, B/ C the Cali scene is predominantly for locals, the vast majority of casa chicas are very humble & many (if not most) are flattered when you ask them for a pic. Sadly, it looks like Dr. Amor has gotten too commercial & I will being taking my business elsewhere from now on.