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A little more background. I have a regular bar I attend in Sephan Kwai. It's one of the smaller ones, but has some real stunners. One day I spotted this real hottie. White skin, big knockers, long legs, and long black hair. Right out of the Thailand auto show it seems. In my mind, I must have her. I was able to chit chat with her and the Moma for a short time and she does not usually go outside with Thai customers. Anyways, I'm planning on trying to get her for a night, I hope my negotiating skills are up to par. I willing to go up to 15 K baht. Cheap Charlie's please no comments about how many ladies you could do with that. On the other hand, if my mission fails, I'm looking for a back up plan. I'm leaning towards the G clubs like the Pimp and next would be a high end bar. Let's see how I do. Any other helpful advice from people who have done this before would be helpful.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1899071]Couple of options:

Side-liners at the bigger Soapies -- many are models and have the magazine spread to prove it. I had one at Long Beach years back and she was 9/10, fair skinned, even GFE for the 90 minutes, 1 shot only, making money to build her dream house in Chiang Mai. Cost was B6 K, sure same type much higher these days.

Backpage is another -- once you make contact, ask for real not just stock photos. Personally I rather view in person and select, YMMV.

Third is local friend who has contact with private university type girls...my local GM referred me to one, again some years back. $6K also, 8/10, spoken english and very young....[/QUOTE]University girls would be a great option. There are many on Bee talk but if you solicite the wrong one, she will report you and the account gets banned. There seem to be some real model like stunners cruising We chat labelling themselves as call girls. Some are very hot but I'm scared they are not real ladies.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1899014]You always pay upfront at Soapies. But I have been short changed at 2. One was in Patpong and she was in such a hurry that she used cold water and suggest that the heater device was in need of repair. She just kept talking and going thru the motions. The whole event was not more than 1/2 hour. When she was finished she asked for a tip and escorted me to a stair and door that led to the street and not the lobby. Wham bam thank you farang, Patpong has always and will continue to be the biggest ripoff in BKK.

RL.[/QUOTE]I'm not referring to soapies when not paying upfront. It was your fault, you let her take advantage of you and kick you out the back. Next time insist on going down to complain and change the lady.

So just back from 6 days in BKK, had a bit of time to play. I'm fairly new to this game so its all still learning ATM.

Mrs BJ, Soi 22 - Pinkie, excellent service, pretty hot, looks a lot better than website pics. When I walked in the lineup was about 5 girls, nothing grabbed me, then pinkie walked in arriving for work. Straight up in said her, she got changed and took me upstairs. Nice rooms, she was fun.

Soms Haven. Had to try a BJ bar and this place was near me. Heaps of girls outside, maybe 8-10. I just walked in for a beer and then one of them chose me but she was pretty decent so I accepted. Fun time.

Mitu massage. Soi 33. Excellent facilities, very good service. I'd recommend this place, kind of in between an oily and a soapy experience.

Thonglor 2 - excellent massage. Good service from girl but I was just off the flight, a bit tired and didn't really clarify costs for extras etc. 2 pops (1 FS then 1 BJ) and she wanted another 1500 for the second also, after some argie bargie we finally settled on 2500 all up but it soured the experience a little. Still, ID go back.

Tinder. FL from tinder, came to hotel. Was very hot but pretty standard service. 2000ST.

BKK gold escorts. Was tired and hungover and decided to try escort to room. Tried Bell from Bangkok Golden escorts. She arrived 30 minutes late, the service was good but I was a bit tired and not really into it. Amazing BJ though, probably the best I've ever had in my life! A-level on second round also but I was spent and she finally finished me again with that amazing BJ. At 5000 was expensive for BKK short time but I didn't want to leave hotel and I would definitely pay $190 AU again for a pretty girl to come to my hotel for two of those BJ's again!

Elle from Rainbow at Nana. Lovely girl, good looking, good English, really sweet. Ended up catching up with her 3 times, real GFE. 2000ST, 3000 LT.

The last night I got really drunk on whiskey and picked up 2 girls ST from Baccara. Was way too drunk to even remember though I do recall it being fun. They eventually woke me up at 3 am cause I passed out snoring. I couldn't find my wallet, I thought ID left it at bar but one of them kindly showed me where I'd stashed it when I got back to room. Bless these girls. Paid both 2500, can't even remember what the barfine was.

All in all a fun 6 days!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1899148]I'm not referring to soapies when not paying upfront. It was your fault, you let her take advantage of you and kick you out the back. Next time insist on going down to complain and change the lady.[/QUOTE]Yup! You pay to learn in this world. Lesson learned.

RL.

I'm going to Thailand this summer and just wanted to know if anyone has been to La Belle or Utopia? They seem like upscale brothels in Bangkok and cost a lot more then the girls in the gogo / strip bars in the red light districts.

Can anyone tell me about them and what the difference is between what you get at these two places versus what you get from the girls in the gogo bars? And the price difference? And the girls much better? Should I check them out?

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1898996]Here's an option you might try: The Four Seasons (now the Anantara Siam), or some other high end hotel that is off the beaten path, and find someone in their lounge areas. I was walking past Ratchadamri BTS one night a couple of years ago and saw the most stunning woman ever. Very pale skin, long straight, perfect hair, slim legs, early twenties, super model-like face, dressed in a one-piece blue dress (very classy, not slutty at all). She was a few feet ahead of me, and I enjoyed those few minutes of the walk very much. She walked into the Four Seasons, and I assumed she was a high end escort. But I walked in after her, just curious to see what the hotel was like, and she walked into a bar / lounge area and sat down and ordered a drink. There were 4-5 other women like her (not quite as stunning, mind you), and a couple of elderly, obviously very well-off gentlemen. It seems the 1% have their own little playgrounds.

But if it were really me, I would take my 10,000 baht and go to Mixx or some place like that and just spend time looking very carefully at exactly the woman I want. Especially at Mixx, there are some real stunners, and you can see them quite well in there. I would scope them out, make sure they are not with a guy already, and once I made my decision, I would make a move for them, and knowing that I had 10,000 baht in my pocket, I would be certain that I would land whoever I want.

And I personally would avoid the coyote girl from a gogo bar.[/QUOTE]I just looked at images of Club Mixx in Bangkok on Google Images and it doesn't look like any working girls. They all look regular. Is this a good pick up spot for WG's?

Some unsolicited advice when it's not working after paying upfront.

As soon as it starts to go pear shaped end the session immediately get dressed go to the desk (talking about soapies and oilies) and in a conciliatory tone ask for either a refund or a change of girl. Mostly they will accommodate you with a change of girl as the house still gets their end. If neither is forthcoming whether you intend to or not threaten dialing 1155 (tourist police) sounds silly I know but it can work, and generally increase the pitch of your disappointment. If it's still deadlocked leave and chalk it up to experience. Also quite often when the girl realizes you are serious about going to complain she will change her tune but the session is unlikely to be enjoyable afterwards. The procedure with a go go girl obviously requires going back to the bar. Go immediately if it's still open or next day if its closed. You are less likely to be compensated from a go go but no harm trying. With FL'S if she has left her ID card at reception as often they are required to call downstairs and tell them not to return it to her until the issue is resolved. If she hasn't left her ID card I guess it depends on your value system as to what happens next.

It's very difficult to generalize on whether or not to end a session prematurely. Just because she does not live up to your expectations but is still delivering an OK albeit lackluster performance and hasn't reneged on agreed services then I recommend simply making the best of it and post your visit on ISG.

Finally and most important do your research before venturing out.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1898706]I am looking for the opinion of some of you regarding this. If you wanted to spend 10,000 Baht for an encounter with a white skinned model type of provider, where would you source from or who would you choose? Some options I'm thinking of are the following:

1. Model Freelancer from We Chat or other chat app.

2. Outcall escort agency.

3. G Club lady.

4. Freelancer from a high end bar.

5. Sideline girl from website.

6. Coyote from Go go bar.

7. High end massage lady.

Please let me know which option you feel would be the best or if another option is available. P.S. Please don't comment if you are going to refer to being too expensive and so on. I'm looking for a high end model encounter only. This thread is no place for cheap Charlie's so please refrain from commenting if you fall into this category. No offence intended.[/QUOTE]Number one for me. You just need to insist on real photos before the meet and not your hotel as there are too many fakes and switcharoos. But I have had three real beauties. They ask 5-6 k but will accept 3 k. The ones who would not accept less than 4 K are the Japanese / Korean ladies. Have not met one yet as the negotiation breaks down on price. My current lady is a uni student and while she may not have a rack, everything else is perfect. She was an accidental find and I thought someone using fake pics. You got to love the nearby option, sometimes works very well.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1899117]A little more background. I have a regular bar I attend in Sephan Kwai. It's one of the smaller ones, but has some real stunners. One day I spotted this real hottie. White skin, big knockers, long legs, and long black hair. Right out of the Thailand auto show it seems. In my mind, I must have her. I was able to chit chat with her and the Moma for a short time and she does not usually go outside with Thai customers. Anyways, I'm planning on trying to get her for a night, I hope my negotiating skills are up to par. I willing to go up to 15 K baht. Cheap Charlie's please no comments about how many ladies you could do with that. On the other hand, if my mission fails, I'm looking for a back up plan. I'm leaning towards the G clubs like the Pimp and next would be a high end bar. Let's see how I do. Any other helpful advice from people who have done this before would be helpful.[/QUOTE]It's possible to score on high end bar's or how you call it, like the Pimp and so on. However most of those girls are just better looking Esaan girls. I know as example a girl which works sometimes in an Nana GoGo, but most times she works in Sherbet at Ekkamai.

Scoring at such Gentlemen Club's works different. Direct approach fails usually. If you show up several times and spent your time with the same girl or group, means shares the bottles, she mind be tempted to give you a ride or two, just to keep you as customer. Business is getting a bit rough, girls have to take care customers to be able to keep their job's. In my opinion its more easy for us to score as before 10-15 years. I did score recently just after a bottle or two, when several years ago I had to spend at least 5 and more bottles to get just near to my goal.

I do love to score on better club's. Narz as example or Creekclub. Of course its not everybody taste, the electric dance music. But those places tend to go wild, as more as the half peoples are on the pill's. Approaching their your target works again different. Socialize and party wild with them, just be sanook. A bottle of Jack helps as well. They are relatively cheap there, cheaper as in the "would like to be so high class" clubs Levels as example, which is full with hookers. As they are on the pill, be patient, give it time. They get horny themselves and need a roommate. Sometimes with a group of two or even three, they willing to share haha. Have your Viagra handy then LOL.

By the way, those said club's have of course the usual Esaan girls as everywhere. But many are pretty well off Bangkokians, mid to high class. Be sure to find at least a huge bunch of eye candy.

Went there last week. I picked the girl with the most innocent look and I could not understand her name and I asked if it was like forget, and she said yes. Body was ok, a little tummy, but she said she was 20 and I completely believe. Still studying so this goes to tuition. Really sweet personality and a trooper. Kept sucking for 15 min and I was enjoying the sight. Given how hard she tried, I decided to go for full service. Multiple positions ok as well as DATY. She either doesn't have much sex or is new, as her kitty was tight. I left completely drained and satisfied. Again, not a spinner or porn star type, but if you want a very cute innocent looking young girl who is happy to please, try her.

[QUOTE=Socker;1898828]On another occasion the waitress picked up my beer to see how much was left. (they do this in aggressive sucker bars BKK).[/QUOTE]Yes, they do it everywhere, at least in the western oriented GoGo's. Live with it and calm down.

[QUOTE=Socker;1898828]A minute later she is hassling the guy next to me to buy a drink and suddenly knocks my beer on my lap (crotch). She says sorry, now do you want another SML? I exploded on her, I was so angry at this point. I then told her to bring me a free one, which she did.[/QUOTE]She did bring you a free one, what more you want? Low educated Thai peoples have a problem to apologize direct to your face. They do it different way. Live with it and.

Be glad it wasn't a Tequila, I had those accidents several times. Peoples, including working staff, tend to be drunk there for a clear reason. Drunk people doesn't have their motion under full control anymore.

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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1898706]I am looking for the opinion of some of you regarding this. If you wanted to spend 10,000 Baht for an encounter with a white skinned model type of provider, where would you source from or who would you choose? Some options I'm thinking of are the following:

1. Model Freelancer from We Chat or other chat app.

2. Outcall escort agency.

3. G Club lady.

4. Freelancer from a high end bar.

5. Sideline girl from website.

6. Coyote from Go go bar.

7. High end massage lady.

Please let me know which option you feel would be the best or if another option is available. P.S. Please don't comment if you are going to refer to being too expensive and so on. I'm looking for a high end model encounter only. This thread is no place for cheap Charlie's so please refrain from commenting if you fall into this category. No offence intended.[/QUOTE]Number 3 would be the first choice for me, closely followed by Number4. In both cases you can check the girl out before committing yourself and decide whether the chemistry is right. As the stakes are high, the disappointment will also be high in case of a misfire. In all other cases as you have no or little chance of checking out a girl properly as you don't have enough P2 P interaction.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1898706]
4. Freelancer from a high end bar.
[/QUOTE]Are you referring to high class ladies hanging around Hotel bar, but not actually working there? I don't understand why the word freelancers appears so much in your list.

I find the list a bit mystifying myself. There seems to be the assumption that you will get something very special indeed by spending a large sum of money.

The money and quality of the lady may not be closely related. Plenty of Escort sites are offering ladies that are not specially attractive to me. The looks are fake or too plastic.

I think you should try a few alternatives and see where you can find the most appealing ladies, whatever the price is.

Just get it clear if you want looks or PSE performance. Maybe can get both from some Escorts, I don't know. I always want to see the lady before choosing. That is my problem, with escorts. She maybe too fat or too skinny. May have fake tits. Etc.

Oily PSE shops are great for PSE performance and ordinary looks. Other places maybe good for looks, but not getting the PSE.

I am happy to find a stunning girl with a good GFE but not PSE. Mostly I find them in bars, because I get time to check my interaction with a girl is good before buying. I see them relatively undressed or completely undressed. I know where to find very pretty faces, great bodies, and great tits, GFE performance, maybe not all these things on the same girl. LOL Variety.

When I see some girl, really stunning, I will be prepared to pay more, if necessary, but hard to find them available. Even the Escort web sites are not helping much. Maybe I will try some G Clubs, if I have money and time to burn. I know where to find girls that don't fuck too. Not very useful. I recently tried the Thermae, but it was disappointing, lacking real stunners, and most girls dressed too conservatively, hiding a body that may or may not be good.

I am more than happy to try a really stunning Coyote girl, of which there are very few, if she is available for fucking. The problem is finding very most stunning ones to be available. They are usually booked up by their regular customers. A great deal of patience may be needed. I know one such girl I would like to try. I don't know yet if she is willing to have sex after paying the barfine. I do see customers arrive late and barfine her after the barfine price has dropped. Do they get sex? I don't know. Perhaps officially no, but in reality maybe? Depends on how much girl likes the customer. She told one regular customer (uglier than me LOL), that she does not fuck, but I am sceptical if this is always true.

As a monger, just entertaining a girl at a G club, with no sex possibility, does not interest me that much. I spend money, I want the sex too.

[QUOTE=Kaywhy;1899229]Went there last week. I picked the girl with the most innocent look and I could not understand her name and I asked if it was like forget, and she said yes. Body was ok, a little tummy, but she said she was 20 and I completely believe. Still studying so this goes to tuition. Really sweet personality and a trooper. Kept sucking for 15 min and I was enjoying the sight. Given how hard she tried, I decided to go for full service. Multiple positions ok as well as DATY. She either doesn't have much sex or is new, as her kitty was tight. I left completely drained and satisfied. Again, not a spinner or porn star type, but if you want a very cute innocent looking young girl who is happy to please, try her.[/QUOTE]Does she have a letter (identifier) on the Dr. BJ Website? I could very easily do letter Z (exactly my spec ) or letter L. They are very good looking to my taste. I saw letter L plenty of times in the past while taking a different girl. I suppose if I go there now, gossip news will spread very fast indeed to my old regular girl.