Kyiv

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Flat, I wouldn't mind watching the NYG-Tampa game at Arena. I'll have a 24/7 freebie for Saturday and Sunday so I don't know if I can make it, it all depends on how the sex is. :) Or maybe she's an NFL fan...

I just tried sending you a pm with my mobile number in Kiev. Looks like you can't receive them. If I end up going to Arena to watch the Giants game I'll post it here. [/QUOTE]Cruiser,

Thanks but we got delayed enroute and did not make it to the hotel until 7 or so tonight, Saturday night. Called the lady in question (Inna at GIA) and of course she is "busy," so giving up on any fun this trip. She was probably home for the holidays or with someone else, even though I had emailed several times the last couple of days asking if she was available and told she was reserved for me. This was a short visit and we have to punch out tomorrow at 09:00, so leaving the hotel (P Palace) at 07:15 for the airport.

Reason you could not PM me is that I need to spend the bux and join the membership. Problem is that I have been traveling so much lately just have not had time. Hope you had a good time at the game.

BTW, used Alex who has been mentioned earlier in this thread and he is very good. Cannot recommend him highly enough for anyone needing help. Will use him whenever he is free in the future but hear that he has been helping several people, possible list members, on long term work, so contact him well in advance of your arriving in town.

FT

Guy´s, need your help.

I´m Aussie Greg from over at the Colombian section ¨Medellin Mansion and all that¨
[url]www.medellinmansion.com[/url]

Been to the Soviet Union/Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Kazakstan over 14 times from 1983 to 2002, Trans Siberian, Trans Kazakstan from Hong Kong, China etc and yes I did marry a russian a few years back but got out of that one by the skin of my teeth.

Heading back to Kiev and Kharkov the end of April and would like to know the latest in regards to meeting a beautifull young 18 year old tall ,skinny, model type, really I´m only looking for one to pack her bags and head with me back to South America.

I do have a mates girlfriend to help me out in Kharkov but any info would be great guy´s, all the best.

Aussie Greg.

My wonderful sweet duo went home today to celebrate Christmas with mom:), so I phoned MT (thanks to a member in this forum I got her new phone number). I wanted some of MT's BBJ at the higest international level. When she is at her best, she can be a professor at the Ukrainian Academy of Oral Sex! I called, she said 200 for "some hours".

She came, was quite sweet, but started immediately to complain about this "terrible guy who had taken pictures of her and posted on the internet" - I had of course no idea about this:). How before she had been a good girl, but now men were terrible, she would be a *****. This guy had locked her up for all night and would not let her out until morning (She would not let me lock the door with key, only so she could open the door easily from inside). As revenge she had stolen his caviar. Sounds familiar?

IT travel: that was really not nice to keep her prisoner!

Then to business - and now came the shock: Only BJ with!!! No way for something more. The sex was rather mediocre at best. After 2 hours she left and I was happy she did!

She told me that now she wanted to fuck as many guys as possible short time, several a day/night (this is new???:)), because she wanted to save to apartment.

She is in some ways funny, suddenly she is like a sweet, almost inno!cent girl:), but most of the time really hardcore - much more hardcore then when I met her first time half a year ago. Or did I meet her on a bad day?

I will never care to call her again, with this behaviour it's a waste!

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]Heading back to Kiev and Kharkov the end of April and would like to know the latest in regards to meeting a beautifull young 18 year old tall ,skinny, model type, really I´m only looking for one to pack her bags and head with me back to South America.

Aussie Greg.[/QUOTE]I think that either you may be VERY lucky or be very persuasive if you can get a Ukraine girl to quickly pack her bags for South America! Maybe 10 years ago, but I really doubt it today.

Flat, stop using GIA or I'll tell the border officials not to let you in the Ukraine anymore. :)

Explorer, yeah we may have mention about a million times that MT has been in the business to long. I knew there was a reason why MT stole IT's shit. Maybe it was part of the role play he forgot to tell her about. Or maybe MT tried to renege on the deal because she needed to see more guys to save up for her apartment. I don't know why you guys keep seeing her. I'd be willing to lay even money she has Hep.

[QUOTE=Explorer69]My wonderful sweet duo went home today to celebrate Christmas with mom:), so I phoned MT (thanks to a member in this forum I got her new phone number). I wanted some of MT's BBJ at the higest international level. When she is at her best, she can be a professor at the Ukrainian Academy of Oral Sex! I called, she said 200 for "some hours".

She came, was quite sweet, but started immediately to complain about this "terrible guy who had taken pictures of her and posted on the internet" - I had of course no idea about this:). How before she had been a good girl, but now men were terrible, she would be a *****. This guy had locked her up for all night and would not let her out until morning (She would not let me lock the door with key, only so she could open the door easily from inside). As revenge she had stolen his caviar. Sounds familiar?

IT travel: that was really not nice to keep her prisoner!

Then to business - and now came the shock: Only BJ with!!! No way for something more. The sex was rather mediocre at best. After 2 hours she left and I was happy she did!

She told me that now she wanted to fuck as many guys as possible short time, several a day/night (this is new???:)), because she wanted to save to apartment.

She is in some ways funny, suddenly she is like a sweet, almost inno!cent girl:), but most of the time really hardcore - much more hardcore then when I met her first time half a year ago. Or did I meet her on a bad day?

I will never care to call her again, with this behaviour it's a waste![/QUOTE]


a) Door... when you have a normal door in an apartment you have to lock it, otherwise a guy or who else... can just get in taking dow the handle... You sleep with the door open? (By the way I usually, as in office home or so, I take out the keys and put them in the right pocket of my jeans... later she was taking them, and putting them in her bag... so who was the prisoner?)

b) we agreed after some jokes and so for an all night!

c) she does BBBJ with COF/CIM only when a little drunk (could try my vodka cum cocktail)

d) She got well paid, usb key with the pics she posted on her own page in flirt, 300 and the waiter sexy dress...

e) when I photographed her other times she knew se would have been posted... and was happy for that! Knowing I eas doing good comments...

As I told she do not want a flat... she want to marry a foreigner falling in love with her :( so she needs to meet a lot... she might be 26/7 now so too old for business and she start undertanding that it will soon be over...

I will post more pics where you see her laughing and all, she was joking always, but then took my ikra (bad girl)...

And I think it's all...


IT

PS If she had been really a prisoner etc etc she would have been subject so severl DRI (Deep Rectal Inspection) with a proper instrument I always have with me... ah ah ah...

I agree with locking.Why let the girl leave when she wants if you have paid for her and how can be the security of your money and things guaranteed if she can simply open the door and leave at any moment?

Hi all,

First time poster so please be gentle with me :)

I am off to Kiev in 2 weeks, and staying at Premier Palace Hotel, and original plans are to meet a girl that I have seen loads of time that is from Minsk, however, she called last night to say she may not be able to make the planned dates, so as I have already booked flight and hotel I thought if she can't make it I will go anyway.

So if she isn't there I would be looking for some fun for a couple of days.

I have heard about the Cabaret in Premier Palace and been told this is run by the hotel and have some great girls in there. Anyone else been in there and have any suggestions / comments?

Also my guess is that there will be a lot of WG in the hotel bar / lobby but not really sure how to approach them?

Also what I enjoy is a good GFE and also my big passion is girls in stockings and lingerie, so do you think if I provide this that most girls will be ok wearing stockings for me?

Last request, I have really fallen in love with the EE thing, and looking to try to get a few freebies after putting in some effort with girls via chat / sites, but what are the best internet sites to go via, I have seen flirt.com.ua but I don't speak the lingo so need something in English - any suggestions?

Many thanks for all advice

Paul

[QUOTE=It Travel]a) Door. When you have a normal door in an apartment you have to lock it, otherwise a guy or who else. Can just get in taking dow the handle. You sleep with the door open? (By the way I usually, as in office home or so, I take out the keys and put them in the right pocket of my jeans. Later she was taking them, and putting them in her bag. So who was the prisoner? )

B) we agreed after some jokes and so for an all night!

C) she does BBBJ with COF/CIM only when a little drunk (could try my vodka cum cocktail)

D) She got well paid, usb key with the pics she posted on her own page in flirt, 300 and the waiter sexy dress.

E) when I photographed her other times she knew se would have been posted. And was happy for that! Knowing I eas doing good comments.

As I told she do not want a flat. She want to marry a foreigner falling in love with her so she needs to meet a lot. She might be 26/7 now so too old for business and she start undertanding that it will soon be over.

I will post more pics where you see her laughing and all, she was joking always, but then took my ikra (bad girl).

And I think it's all.

IT

PS If she had been really a prisoner etc etc she would have been subject so severl DRI (Deep Rectal Inspection) with a proper instrument I always have with me. Ah ah ah. [/QUOTE]IT, no offense, I was just quoting what she said, she pretended to be very upset and started to speak about this.

And yes, I know she has been too long in the business. The only thing is that last time we had vodka together, I didn't know that was absolutely necessary for BBJ and CIM, although it has been mentioned here.

Kent...the girls at the strip club aren't all that good. The lobby girls however used to be extreme hot and very expensive. I don't know if they are still extremely hot but I do know they are still very expensive. The only strip clubs I can think of that still have extremely hot girls are the Rhino Clubs. Which will give you the same experience as an American strip club - you will spend a lot of money and you will get nothing in return, except a girl sitting in your lap. There is absolutely no take out from a Rhino club. However I did get one of the best lap dances in my life at a Rhino club last year.

Sadly enough for a short visit your best bet is to hit River Palace and chat a few girls up. If you pay for the taxi, buy me an orange juice and if I'm not busy that night I'd be happy to take you. :)

Hey does anyone know if there are any lobby girls working the Hyatt? I kind of doubt it. But it is right around the corner from me. BTW - what a awful looking hotel that is for the location. Looks like something you'd see in Palm Springs not in Kiev.

[QUOTE=KentsBest]Hi all,

First time poster so please be gentle with me :)

I am off to Kiev in 2 weeks, and staying at Premier Palace Hotel, and original plans are to meet a girl that I have seen loads of time that is from Minsk, however, she called last night to say she may not be able to make the planned dates, so as I have already booked flight and hotel I thought if she can't make it I will go anyway.

So if she isn't there I would be looking for some fun for a couple of days.

I have heard about the Cabaret in Premier Palace and been told this is run by the hotel and have some great girls in there. Anyone else been in there and have any suggestions / comments?

Also my guess is that there will be a lot of WG in the hotel bar / lobby but not really sure how to approach them?

Also what I enjoy is a good GFE and also my big passion is girls in stockings and lingerie, so do you think if I provide this that most girls will be ok wearing stockings for me?

Last request, I have really fallen in love with the EE thing, and looking to try to get a few freebies after putting in some effort with girls via chat / sites, but what are the best internet sites to go via, I have seen flirt.com.ua but I don't speak the lingo so need something in English - any suggestions?

Many thanks for all advice

Paul[/QUOTE]The girls in Premier Palace are among the most expensive you can find in Kiev. Take a taxi to River Palace - just say "River Palace" to any taxi driver in Kiev. You probably can have a hot duo for a couple of hours for the price of one girl from Premier Palace. Or have a hot girl all night. Just read the threads, you find all answers there:)).

[QUOTE=Hecker]I agree with locking.Why let the girl leave when she wants if you have paid for her and how can be the security of your money and things guaranteed if she can simply open the door and leave at any moment?[/QUOTE]Of course I always lock my door! But in this case there were 2 locks, one with a key and the other one you just could open from inside without a key. I usually lock with the key a bit discretly and hide the key. However, in this situation when MT was very observant on the lock, I did not want to initiate bad mood, it never creates good sex. So I just used the one without key. As far as I know MT never did anything to anybody except for this single occasion with IT? But I had no caviar in my flat when I invited MT, LOL. Maybe she just likes caviar? I always have my valuables hidden/locked up - and I never had anything stolen, never any problems.

But I disagree with the saying "Why let the girl leave when she wants if you have paid for her". If for some reason the girl wants to leave, how can you expect good sex when you force her? It is not my cup of tea! Then I prefer loosing my money. If a girl wants to leave before "the deal is finished the way I wanted" (and it always happened after we had some sex), she is usually no good, very pro, or the common atmosphere was no good. I expected more, but she decided to leave for some reason, maybe going back to the club to fuck another guy? Well, some times we win, sometimes we loose. Yes, I have been cheated in that way, but then it is usually best for all parts, there will not be much fun anyway? Furthermore, I don't believe that having paid for sex allows me to keep somebody locked up if she decides to go!

I like caviar too.

I think it was around $500.00 worth of caviar that she stole from It Travel.

MT was thinking maybe like this.To be locked for the whole night costs more than this Italian paid.If I accept it,he will win.But I have to win.So I will take his caviar to balance in my favour.

All this wining-losing mentality and the struggle in Ukraine can be a headache.The Russians only really how to impose on these people.

[QUOTE=Explorer69]

Of course I always lock my door!

I don't believe that having paid for sex allows me to keep somebody locked up if she decides to go!

[/QUOTE]

Sometimes mongering doesn't go as planned, that's just the way it is.

Like a pimp who brought me a 19 year semi-pro student that I paid for first, which is just how it is in many places, but when she began undressing, she turned out to be a 25 year old pro with a lot of make-up and two children. At that point, I decided to cancel and get a refund, but her pimp had already driven away, and didn't mind burning me, so refused to come back with my 2 hour fee, about $120.

Since my door was locked and the key in my pocket, I figured since I wasn't getting a refund, then the damn blyad will just have to sit there for a while and listen to me call her a lying suka.

She was probably thinking that if I wasn't gonna fuck her, I might decide to beat her up, so after a few minutes, she demanded to leave. I told her if she wasn't gonna get my money back, then she would have to stay and take my verbal abuse for lying about mis-representing herself that she wasn't what she pretended to be. :mad:

The next thing I know, she starts trying to climb out the window off my balcony for a 9 meter jump down to the brick courtyard. At first, I tried pulling her back in, and then I got mad and practically threw her over, and she got a little scared.

Then I started to think about it, so since it was only 3 o'clock in the afternoon, and I could tell she had been drinking vodka, I finally unlocked the door and let her out, figuring if she hit the ground and was bleeding or yelling, it would attract the wrong kind of attention, and I always try to keep a low profile. Twenty minutes of useless futile arguing with a stupid skank-ho was enough.

Like Explorer says, we can't win 'em all. :rolleyes: