[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2745264]It doesn't matter what the girl looks like, any guy sending money to women on the other side of the world is an absolute moron.[/QUOTE]I'd feel a lot better is guys we're sending money to attractive women.
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[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2745264]It doesn't matter what the girl looks like, any guy sending money to women on the other side of the world is an absolute moron.[/QUOTE]I'd feel a lot better is guys we're sending money to attractive women.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2745049]Thanks for your report, I would be curious to know what other destinations you have in mind. I have been to the Philippines a ton and have friends there, but there are a lot of complaints about that too right now. Subic is a ghost town, EDSA complex is gone, Burgos is a shadow of its former self. Angeles is picking up apparently, but some issues with attitude on some of the girls. And to be frank, out of all of Asia they are not the best looking either if you like slim young hard bodies. I love their personalities though and they are horny little devils which is why I spend time there, but outside of Thailand and PHP I am not sure what options there are?
I'm in Pattaya right now, and I have the same sense you do. The quality of the girls is actually down and this place has not recovered since Covid. Barfines at the gogos are insane and the women are below average for the rates they want to charge, its hard to justify to be quite honest. The bar scene is what it always is, lots of single moms and middle aged women with the occasional looker surrounded by alcoholics. The talent at the gentlemen clubs leaves a lot to be desired too. Some of the soapies have closed too. Tinder and ThaiFriendly are yielding some good results, but I prefer to select from lineups.
I'm of the view that BKK is the best option right now, but beyond that Pattaya is getting hard to find a silver lining for right now. It just seems really, really tired?
I'm thinking of making a move over to Jakarta perhaps, although complaints about that too. I guess Covid lockdowns are lingering everywhere, and a lot of girls have become very used to going online these days.[/QUOTE]I visited Rio last year and had an amazing time, the only reason I didn't go there instead of Pattaya is that I'm not very good at learning new languages. I managed to learn a lot of words and phrases last time but the Cariocas seem to pronounce a lot of the words differently to other Portuguese speaking places.
Going to try and learn Portuguese again and thinking about hiring an online tutor a few times a week too, it definitely seems worth it. I definitely recommend Rio and I need to try Sao Paulo too.
Medellin is decent but I definitely think it's overrated on this board.
Other than that, I would try Kenya for something different.
Unfortunately for me and many others who prefer meeting girls in person, the mongering scene everywhere is moving more and more online. I can understand why though but I find ordering girls on my phone boring.
If I go back to Thailand though, I agree with you that Bangkok seems like a better option than Pattaya currently.
Hey folks,
Planning my first trip to Pattaya and my first trip to Thailand since December 2019 which was only BKK and phuket.
I'm really looking forward to trying the BJ bars like LE Poste. Any others recommend? Will be there for a week and want to try as many as I can in the day and stick to gogos for the evening.
Cheers.
UU.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2744892]Facebook will set you free. Like I said, Eye was one of the better looking girls at Flirt. She had more make up on the day I rejected the 2500 plus 400 room offer. But still not worth 2500 at Soi 6. It's like going to the market and seeing a sign that reads 69 cents / lb. For tomatoes. Avoid the bruised ones. You will stand there and pick and choose the best ones to get, but imagine if you had to pay 2. 5 X at the cash register just because you chose the better tomatoes? Silly isn't it? But like I said, the part where she works for drinks may be okay. But the part talking down on the other girls is not. Nightwish needs to correct that behavior.[/QUOTE]But she is an organic Heirloom tomato, $4/ lb not that mass produced 69 cent crap. She was just in the wrong bin. LOL.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2745380]But she is an organic Heirloom tomato, $4/ lb not that mass produced 69 cent crap. She was just in the wrong bin. LOL.[/QUOTE]I just make ketchup out of all of them anyways. Hehehe.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2745264]It doesn't matter what the girl looks like, any guy sending money to women on the other side of the world is an absolute moron.[/QUOTE]I have only sent money once, when some twins I knew went back to the village during Covid. I supported them for a few months, since they had zero sources of income in the village, and then we traveled abroad for 3 months, until Thailand opened for visitors again.
But, if a lady is in Pattaya, and you are sending her money, you are crazy.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2744525]..... I blew her back out good and had her screaming for trying to rip me off.[/QUOTE]You mean you treated her extra nice for trying to rip you off 'cause I'm thinking she was screaming with delight.
New bar named Stunners on Buakhao. Buzz on the street is the same ownership as Electric Blue. Went to take a peek and was shocked, no stunners to be found. Instead got rude jolt being tasered by the door girl for frowning in disappointment. Couldn't walk. Took a Bolt back home. No money left to pay, so I charged it. LOL.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2745359]I visited Rio last year and had an amazing time, the only reason I didn't go there instead of Pattaya is that I'm not very good at learning new languages. I managed to learn a lot of words and phrases last time but the Cariocas seem to pronounce a lot of the words differently to other Portuguese speaking places.
Going to try and learn Portuguese again and thinking about hiring an online tutor a few times a week too, it definitely seems worth it. I definitely recommend Rio and I need to try Sao Paulo too.
Medellin is decent but I definitely think it's overrated on this board.
Other than that, I would try Kenya for something different.
Unfortunately for me and many others who prefer meeting girls in person, the mongering scene everywhere is moving more and more online. I can understand why though but I find ordering girls on my phone boring.
If I go back to Thailand though, I agree with you that Bangkok seems like a better option than Pattaya currently.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Rio at the end of the year for new years, along with Sao Paulo. Its been a while since I went back, but after this most recent trip to Pattaya I don't know if I will be making the effort again in a hurry. Not until I see better reporting on the ground. Quite frankly it would be time better spent in Latin America or even Europe.
[QUOTE=Cusland;2745341]I absolutely love it here. I've been coming here for 15 years and lived here 8. I don't care if the prices are 1,000 baht higher as long as I get top quality. The bars are improving, the restaurants are improving, the gyms are improving. Stop moaning. If you don't like soi 6 open bars go to Soi Boomerang, Soi full love inn, or any of the gentleman's clubs that have popped up all over the city. Stop moaning and enjoy.[/QUOTE]I have been to the alternatives you mentioned. The current selections are dire. I understand if they suit your tastes all the more power to you, but I don't fly for hours to fuck average looking women nor do I have months and months on the ground to hunt. The quality of the women in the average GC is really not great at all. I have done it all. Massage shops, bars, free lancers from clubs, Thai Friendly, GC's, gogos. And quite frankly the quality of the women is well below par with rates higher than what they used to be. Thats not to say there are not hot women here, I'm nto exactly banging ugly women but its becoming a challenge everyday and I am having to shuffle through a lot of very average situations compared to the past.
By the time I am finished with drinks, barfines and ST rates I am all in for a total cost that exceeds high level brothels in places like Spain or German FKK's. Or even the saunas in Macau or knock shops in HK. There you are banging model quality eastern Europeans, Colombians, Brazilians, etc for 100-150 euro an hour. Or in Macau or Hong Kong you have access to Japs, Koreans, Viets, etc. The average gogo dancer right now would not be getting a second look in these places. Long time is where places like Thailand and Philippines really shine, but in Pattaya right now the barfines for LT are insane as the owners are desperate to keep the girls in the bars and gogos selling drinks.
1.5-2 k barfines from the gogo's before midnight. The 5 k LT is the going rate. So 7 k all in, and that's before drinks and lady drinks. Then add hotels, food?
I understand the appeal of Pattaya. Lost count of how many times I have been here. There is a scene here though, and unless you are a booze hound then it really does not have much to offer beyond good golf and pussy. The pussy is the worst I have ever seen it here. So its great for the booz hounds who can spend their days hanging around slow sipping their Changs, but if you are on a short time frame?
Just my experience, I hope Pattaya makes a comeback but this place is no longer a cheap destination where quality is on offer. I accept that prices are going up, nature of things. I actually don't have an issue if prices stayed where they were for the long term. What needs to improve is the quality of the women. Going down Soi Pothole at 9 am two nights back for example, it looked like a warzone full of fat, middle aged women.
First trip to post covid (no Thai pass) Pattaya and I think I preferred Pattaya quieter.
TF Scene. Seems like 1500 is the new standard minimum for TF. Even average girls are asking that now. Before, stunners used to charge that number. Tried 3 girls since it is day 1. Guest friendly hotel to the point where I don't have to go down and receive the girls. They can come and knock on your door directly. I wouldn't recommend that unless you do a video call with the girl though. Girls on TF know really well how to pose perfectly for pictures. Save yourself some buyers remorse or the awkward situation of having to send the girls home. Fortunately for me, 2 girls looked great and the 3rd one looked better than her pictures. Total damage was 5 k (2 k for a stunner and 1.5 k each for the other 2).
Beach Road. I had no heart for a round 4 but took a stroll down the beach road towards walking street after a heavy dinner. There are so many SWs on the sidewalk that it almost looks like a parade. Hordes of guys with protruding bellies circling and isolating girls and trying to negotiate which I found disgusting. There were a few good looking ones though. I think I prefer the quieter less populated version of Beach Road. Less girls for sure, but doesn't feel much like a meat market. On side note, got hustled out of 300 bht by a girl on the street. Typical tactic which I shouldn't have fallen for. I was on an important call, the girl tries to get handsy with me, I was focused on my call so I tried to get away from her and she neatly stole the change I had in my pocket which was the remainder of my dinner money. I blame myself for being careless, but for everyone else, please be careful.
I have been reading through the form on any intel about soapies / nuru in Pattaya (all the big / famous ones were closed last time I was here) and it looks like the good ones are all back in BKK. I will try and leave a day before my flight to try a few from BKK. Also planning a stroll down Soi 6 tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2745437]I have only sent money once..... I supported them for a few months....[/QUOTE]"My girl is different".
"She's a cashier, she doesn't barfine".
"I only did it once".
The eternal truths of Pattaya. 😜.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2745437]...since they had zero sources of income in the village....[/QUOTE]"except for the 18 other guys sending sponsorship ".
Sorry dude. Just taking the pisss. A bit of help in exchange for 3 months overseas, especially during the Covid insanity, sounds like a good deal to me. Well done. 😉 👍.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2745488]I have been to the alternatives you mentioned. The current selections are dire. I understand if they suit your tastes all the more power to you, but I don't fly for hours to fuck average looking women nor do I have months and months on the ground to hunt. The quality of the women in the average GC is really not great at all. I have done it all. Massage shops, bars, free lancers from clubs, Thai Friendly, GC's, gogos. And quite frankly the quality of the women is well below par with rates higher than what they used to be. Thats not to say there are not hot women here, I'm nto exactly banging ugly women but its becoming a challenge everyday and I am having to shuffle through a lot of very average situations compared to the past.
By the time I am finished with drinks, barfines and ST rates I am all in for a total cost that exceeds high level brothels in places like Spain or German FKK's. Or even the saunas in Macau or knock shops in HK. There you are banging model quality eastern Europeans, Colombians, Brazilians, etc for 100-150 euro an hour. Or in Macau or Hong Kong you have access to Japs, Koreans, Viets, etc. The average gogo dancer right now would not be getting a second look in these places. Long time is where places like Thailand and Philippines really shine, but in Pattaya right now the barfines for LT are insane as the owners are desperate to keep the girls in the bars and gogos selling drinks.[/QUOTE]Very well written.
Pattaya has been going down in terms of quality even before covid. However I am hoping the beach road freelancers haven't changed rates much (800 to 1000 bahts ST) and that one can choose from over 300 girls every evening. Please tell me if this is not the case.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2745488]I have been to the alternatives you mentioned. The current selections are dire. I understand if they suit your tastes all the more power to you, but I don't fly for hours to fuck average looking women nor do I have months and months on the ground to hunt. The quality of the women in the average GC is really not great at all. I have done it all. Massage shops, bars, free lancers from clubs, Thai Friendly, GC's, gogos. And quite frankly the quality of the women is well below par with rates higher than what they used to be. Thats not to say there are not hot women here, I'm nto exactly banging ugly women but its becoming a challenge everyday and I am having to shuffle through a lot of very average situations compared to the past.
By the time I am finished with drinks, barfines and ST rates I am all in for a total cost that exceeds high level brothels in places like Spain or German FKK's. Or even the saunas in Macau or knock shops in HK. There you are banging model quality eastern Europeans, Colombians, Brazilians, etc for 100-150 euro an hour. Or in Macau or Hong Kong you have access to Japs, Koreans, Viets, etc. The average gogo dancer right now would not be getting a second look in these places. Long time is where places like Thailand and Philippines really shine, but in Pattaya right now the barfines for LT are insane as the owners are desperate to keep the girls in the bars and gogos selling drinks.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with everything you say in this post and I corroborate it as I have been in Thailand for two months now.
I've enjoyed my time here and don't regret it one bit. Like you, I hope the quality improves over time. I won't have another extended travel holiday for about a year and will research destinations but I think in the end, I will be back in Thailand for the majority of my holiday mixed in with a few other countries for a short time. I just doubt any other country can offer what Thailand offers: ton of girls, cheap modern hotels, cheap food of all cuisines, safety, ease of travel throughout the country, big city life of BKK, islands, mountains up north, major airport with cheap flights to nearby countries. The list goes on.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2745580]"My girl is different".
"She's a cashier, she doesn't barfine".
"I only did it once".
The eternal truths of Pattaya. 😜.
"except for the 18 other guys sending sponsorship ".
Sorry dude. Just taking the pisss. A bit of help in exchange for 3 months overseas, especially during the Covid insanity, sounds like a good deal to me. Well done..[/QUOTE]The most experienced of us get burned, but one thing is true that guys that get burned will never admit it to themselves LOL.