American Politics

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2570103]It was a sustained assault upon a US consulate. Which is American territory. Which killed a US ambassador. The security of the ambassador was the responsibility of the Secretary of State, Crooked Hillary Clinton, and the President, Barack Hussein Okenya. They failed and betrayed their country, neither for the first nor the last time.[/QUOTE]The us govt commandeered. And just used and called a consular office--it wasn't some big built up US property. They were there for a few days.

The locals didn't like that and kicked the Americans out. It so happened he ambassador was there. Had nothing to do with Hillary. Wasn't. A big conspiracy. Hillary was exonerated by the republicans in both houses of congress. Why don't you believe in and support your government? Hard to claim the manle of patriotism if you don't believe in your govt of for and by the people. It wasn't Hillary's fault LOL.

You guys are so desperate for anything to gain legitimacy because you have no policy substance that actually helps anything to offer. You say Obama failed and betrayed the country when it was trump who sided with Putin over US intel agencies, fell in love with a dictator running north Korea, and lied to the American people about the virus and about 22,000 other things, even siding with Nazis and the KKK and an insurrection against our nation where trumptards like you cheered for killing the vice president of the USA. That's a betrayal of the country--your side did that. You have no right to try and talk about betraying the nation after January 6th.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2571052]A worldwide pandemic curtailed production of consumer goods, mining of raw materials, etc in case you forgot. Of course a president could force these businesses to stay open an bleed money, but that would be socialist, wouldn't it?

With restrictions easing, guess what? Lots of demand and limited supply. What does that equal? Inflation.

Or do you suggest that Biden implement price controls that you would call socialist.

Republikkkants are so predictable.[/QUOTE]Demand from who? From all these broke millions of Americans that needed stimulus checks (fresh from the dollar printing presses) just to survive? We'll define supply and demand in 2021 for you: the corporations demanded to be supplied with cash so they could remain whole and pay their management and investors. So the government printed money, doled it out to the plebes so they could make their Mastercard / Visa interest payments.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2571080]You must have missed the prior administration is over -- unless you're still counting on the recount. What matters is what's happening now, see? It's understandable that if you're unemployed, your concern would be with finding a job. As for the increasingly likely scenario of inflation and decline of our purchasing power and foreign exchange rate, what's the Biden regime going to do about it.[/QUOTE]I realize that fascists will call the following article 'fake news' but I guess fascusts don't understand that the pandemic and inflation are interrelated. [URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-05-29/to-judge-inflation-think-of-the-pandemic-as-a-war[/URL].

[QUOTE=CrowExplorer;2570861]But all those blue cities and states were locking down and forcing mandates full on gestapo chi-com style. Shouldn't there have been a much lower case and death rate compared to red states like Florida, who let their peasants, err, I mean citizens live their life a way in which they choose?[/QUOTE][B]Heres Where COVID-19 Cases Are Rising and Falling[/B]
June 15, 2021.
[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health-news/here-are-the-states-where-covid-19-is-increasing-2[/URL]
[QUOTE]..For the week that ended Sunday, 20 states reported increases in COVID-19 cases, compared with three states the previous week.

Missouri had the highest increase with a 101 percent jump to 4,517 new cases.

The CDC reported that Florida had the most new cases in the past 7 days with 10,676. Thats about 3,000 less than the previous week.

Texas was second with 8,421 new cases this past week, about 200 fewer than the previous week.

Colorado was third with 4,137 cases. California was next with 3,967 new cases and Washington was fifth with 3,833.

The CDC reports that on a per capita basis, Wyoming leads with almost 80 cases per 100,000 residents over the past 7 days.

Colorado is second with 71 cases per 100,000 residents, followed by Missouri with 62 cases per 100,000 residents. Next is Utah with 59 cases per 100,000 residents and Arkansas with 52 cases.

There were 21 states that reported an increase this past week in COVID-19 deaths, compared with 11 states the previous week.

Florida recorded the most COVID-19 deaths over the past 7 days with 232.

Texas was second with 217 reported deaths. That was followed by Georgia with 172, Pennsylvania with 130, and Illinois with 118 deaths.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2570577]Look into Hannity's eyes and you'll find Putin's soul.[/QUOTE]Look into Biden eyes and you will see Putin's puppet.

[QUOTE=Canada;2571356]Look into Biden eyes and you will see Putin's puppet.[/QUOTE]Maybe you shouldn't be on this board in the first place. The following forum seems to be a better fit for you and your debating skills.

[URL]https://www.internetmatters.org/resources/social-media-networks-made-for-kids[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2570875]But simplistic and misleading arguments have been part of the playbook of Trumpism for a long time, aimed at leading along the gullible and bigoted with tunes they find pleasing. I'll add that New York after a very rough start smashed the curve from May through October of 2020. As expected they had a winter surge but still kept deaths relatively low. Scroll down and check the graphs. Wow. You'll never hear about this though in the Fox evening propaganda hours.[/QUOTE]New York has the second highest death rate in the USA and you are bragging about how they handled it?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2570875]And how did NY do it? The answer is obvious, with sound policies and compliance with the same, masks, social distancing, etc. Just common sense stuff, the same stuff that worked many places in Asia and in Scandinavia, excepting Sweden.[/QUOTE]Except it didn't work. [URL]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484[/URL].

The most restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) for controlling the spread of COVID- 19 are mandatory stay- at- home and business closures. Given the consequences of these policies, it is important to assess their effects. We evaluate the effects on epidemic case growth of more restrictive NPIs (mrNPIs), above and beyond those of less- restrictive NPIs (lrNPIs). Methods: We first estimate COVID- 19 case growth in relation to any NPI imple-mentation in subnational regions of 10 countries: England, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, South Korea, Sweden and the United States. Using first- difference models with fixed effects, we isolate the effects of mrNPIs by subtracting the combined effects of lrNPIs and epidemic dynamics from all NPIs. We use case growth in Sweden and South Korea, 2 countries that did not implement mandatory stay- at- home and business closures as comparison countries for the other 8 countries.

Conclusion: While small benefits cannot be excluded, we do not find significant benefits on case growth of more restrictive NPIs. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with less- restrictive interventions.

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Maybe you can quote the wrong study again, douche!

You know all that name calling and stupidity you launched at Trump about what he could or should have done differently?

Truth is it didn't fucking matter. A virus does not care who is in political office.

And while you idiots are still fingering pointing at Trump, one of the people you elevated to deity status, Anthony Fauci, looks like one of the three "scientists" most responsible for the creation of this novel corona virus in the first place.

"There is no evidence in leaked from the lab" you bellow while the circumstantial evidence, a mountain of evidence, shows no other theory that is even in the ball park of the lab leak theory. Hell, even Jon Stewart went off on what is so obvious.

A novel respiratory corona virus epidemic starts up right next to a lab named novel respiratory corona virus? There is no proof it leaked from the lab?

No, anyone who says that is racist conspiracy theorist who hates Asians.

There is a point and time to say another person is just fucking crazy, and that time is now for you and all the other Democratic douches. You literally are too stupid to argue with.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2571163]I realize that fascists will call the following article 'fake news' but I guess fascusts don't understand that the pandemic and inflation are interrelated. [URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-05-29/to-judge-inflation-think-of-the-pandemic-as-a-war[/URL].[/QUOTE]Irrelevant news. No bid covid contracts during your Kushner regime on top of the preceding years of quantatative easing has put too many dollars in play. Everyone of a certain age remembers the 70's economy, and double digit interest rates (which we don't mind) thru the early 80's. While we're seeing $100 flights from New York to Bogota on United (which we appreciate), the primary concern as it should be is erosion of purchasing power in our annuities and funds, and foreign exchange rates. Seeing little difference between your politicians, just being able to outlive the collapse of the dollar relative to costs in our favored fun spots is all that really matters, in the context of ISG.

While calling people names tells more about you than them, please refrain from insulting people for having different political views.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2571478]While calling people names tells more about you than them, please refrain from insulting people for having different political views.[/QUOTE]That should go double for other BMs that peddle in such infantile and juvenile name calling, of their fellow BMs. As if that somehow wins the argument. Who know who you are...

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2571478]While calling people names tells more about you than them, please refrain from insulting people for having different political views.[/QUOTE]Yeah, someone needs to police these name-callers. Calling someone a 'douche', tsk, tsk. That's almost as bad as calling someone an anti-semite, as also tells more about you than them.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2571478]While calling people names tells more about you than them, please refrain from insulting people for having different political views.[/QUOTE]It is amazing how you douches call for civility after Paulie is caught lying, is praising New York's horrible track record with response to the virus, and saying Trump is responsible for thousands of deaths. And that you douches had the cure for the virus all along and Trump did not listen.

Is Trumpist a term of endearment?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2569715]I adore Jon Stewart. I absolutely do, and it saddens me when trumpists use him to advance their brainless and wicked talking points.
[/QUOTE]And here is another:

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2568660]Every sane person knows it was a mistake. After a detailed and thorough investigation by the USA And Israeli governments it was established beyond any doubt, even unreasonable, that USS Libery was mistaken for an Egyptian ship.

Only a complete moron and / or rabid anti-Semite can spread the idiotic idea that Israel (during the war, mind you) would've [B]knowingly[/B] attacked a ship of their only true ally in the whole wide world. And then, mind you, pay multimillion dollar compensation and damages. Yeah, totally plausible, why the fuck not.

This is on the same level as denying Holocaust. You must be genuinely sick to believe such nonsense or really, really sick spreading the lies while not believing in it.[/QUOTE]I do not even know about the details of this issue but anyone who disagrees with you is a sick, insane, anti-Semitic Holocaust denying moron. I thought you Democrats were supposed to be caring.

But more importantly, who made you referee, Douche?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2571066]I see you failed to answer my original question regarding Thailand.[/QUOTE]Thailand is as far away from the USA in every regard as it is possible to be. The correct comparison is with other Western and American states, which shows the US has a similar rate to most (and lower than many).

And why haven't you addressed the point about Biden / Pelosi wanting to keep flights coming in from China long after Trump banned them? Why are you communists so stupid?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2571401]New York has the second highest death rate in the USA and you are bragging about how they handled it?

Except it didn't work. [URL]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484[/URL].

The most restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) for controlling the spread of COVID- 19 are mandatory stay- at- home and business closures. Given the consequences of these policies, it is important to assess their effects. We evaluate the effects on epidemic case growth of more restrictive NPIs (mrNPIs), above and beyond those of less- restrictive NPIs (lrNPIs). Methods: We first estimate COVID- 19 case growth in relation to any NPI imple-mentation in subnational regions of 10 countries: England, France, Germany, Iran, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, South Korea, Sweden and the United States. Using first- difference models with fixed effects, we isolate the effects of mrNPIs by subtracting the combined effects of lrNPIs and epidemic dynamics from all NPIs. We use case growth in Sweden and South Korea, 2 countries that did not implement mandatory stay- at- home and business closures as comparison countries for the other 8 countries.

Conclusion: While small benefits cannot be excluded, we do not find significant benefits on case growth of more restrictive NPIs. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with less- restrictive interventions..[/QUOTE]An outstanding forensic demolition of the leftists' pisspoor arguments. All they can come back at you with is "teacher, teacher! He called me a douche!" Says it all.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2571104]north Korea...... January 6th.[/QUOTE]Trump got north Korea under control. They were testing nukes and firing missiles next to Japan for fun during Barack Hussein's regime. Under Trump, that all ended and he came closer than anyone to a peace deal. Ultimately it didn't happen because Kim wouldn't give up nukes, but the situation was calmed. Now it is flaring up again as Biden sleeps through it and his handlers don't know what to do.

And we now know January 6 was organised by the FBI. Dozens of unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators = feds. They knew exactly what was going to happen because their undercover agents organised it, and they arranged for the Capitol police to let the protesters in. It is the FBI who betrayed the country and the American people.