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[QUOTE=Goferring;2747309]Standard practice in Asia that when demand and trading volume drop, then prices are increased to maintain gross revenue. Offering discounts to attract the diminishing or limited customers is a very Western concept.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]This is true.
But, this High Season will be the busiest in the history of Pattaya. Ignore the Gloom and Doomers.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2747214]It is fascinating to watch the Sandal Wearing Indian Guys Huddle around one lady next to a coconut tree. It would seem to me that "how much" would be an easy and direct question. But maybe they all like gang-bangs? I don't know but notice that they are always in groups. And always in Sandals and always questioning the ladies on the beach. To each there own but I also notice a lot of ladies seem to reject their requests.[/QUOTE]Indeed they are always in big groups. I also notice how handsy they are with one another. Arms around each other's shoulders walking and even holding hands or the forearms. I don't know if this is a cultural thing or if they are gay or bi. But I suppose it would explain why they are so into gangbangs and taking turns on women. I see them in towels in the hallways of hotels which I presume means they must be naked in front of one another in their rooms. Their behavior is odd and abnormal compared to your average punter who is stealthily riding solo like a sigma.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2747364]I see them in towels in the hallways of hotels which I presume means they must be naked in front of one another in their rooms. Their behavior is odd and abnormal compared to your average punter who is stealthily riding solo like a sigma.[/QUOTE]What is odd behavior for one culture may be perfectly normal for another culture.
I used to frequent a hotel with many guests from India. I've seen 2 couples sharing a hotel room with 2 queen size beds and I've seen 4 men in a similar room. A friend used to be a housekeeper at a hotel favored by guests from India and she has told me some strange stories.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2747312]I don't vape so I have never researched the Thai Penal Code for laws against vaping.
However, I do pay consenting adult ladies over the age of 18 money to have sex with me in Thailand. I have yet to see a law in the Thai Penal Code forbidding such a thing. If anyone can cite such a law, please do.
Nobody gets arrested and charged with the "crime" of prostitution, the act of exchanging money for sex, in Thailand if the participants are consenting adults over the age of 18.[/QUOTE]You realize you are in country with a dowry tradition that increases in amount with virgin girls right? Sex for money not illegal or enforced, but many the activities pertaining to it are illegal. So it's a moot point. That's how corrupt societies and governments work. Vague and confusing laws and rules which allows for multiple interpretations by multiple people. Foreigner sitting alone on an empty beach maskless is 100,000 baht fine, but a LPGA Thai golfer taking photo for the newspaper without her mask is perfectly ok. Visa granted by a Consulate who reviews your paperwork, but can be revoked on arrival by random Immigration officer who dislikes your look. Makes no sense. They hand people the rope already tied to hang themselves. See their vape laws but there are sales everywhere you see. See the cannabis laws. All vague and leave a bunch of room for arrests and fines. And yes, you and everyone else have broken these anti-prostitution laws. If they want to they can arrest you for picking up a girl in from of Nana or a GoGo bar or Massage Shop or Smoochie. The devil is all in the details. So we are all breaking their anti-prostitution laws when we monger here. Read it and weep and count how many have you broken. They've learned a long time ago, if it is clear cut in writing, the people will hold you to it. So the laws are all written vaguely.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2747307]I'm wondering how that will play out in practice. Most Chinese are in prepaid packages, staying at Chinese owned hotels, taking Chinese guided tours, eating at Chinese owned restaurants ie some crumbs filter down to the local economy but the vast majority finds its way back into Chinese hands.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to disagree about the circular flow of Chinese tourist yuan, but it relies on money entering the circle. Many Chinese will be worried they fall, or have fallen already into, one of several groups which do not boost optimism;.
Live in a city locked down at 24 ,or less, hours notice for a month.
Find they cannot access their bank accounts and their savings are in the wrong sort of account and not protected by the government.
Their employer shuts down periodically because of power shortages, or permanently because of cash shortages.
They are still paying rent, as well as the mortgage on a flat where construction hasn't started yet, and the family savings made up the deposit.
Second Road is pretty much jacked up from those Indian businesses near WS, all the way until after the Base. If you take a 10 baht bus from Jomtien, it will detour on 16 behind Day and Night Hotel. So pay attention to save you a long walk. The area behind Avenue is totally jacked. They've pretty much managed to kill all the businesses on Buakhao 15 leading up to Buakhao. Nothing is alive back there. Immigration Jomtien was nice about handing me a 30 days extension to add onto my 60 day tourist visa. Cool! It may be another long "holiday" in Thailand once again. When you are a long stay tourist (not expat), it is totally different the price you pay for everything. You know so much more. Saw some Desi bros at the beach looking at a menu at one of those beach stalls with chairs and umbrellas. Asked them, if they see any kitchen around here? They said no. I said then why would you pay a 30% mark up for food the vendors just order from a Thai restaurant to be delivered? Use LINEMAN or FoodPanda and save you a bunch of duckets. They just looked at me and bobbled their heads back and forth.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2747364]Indeed they are always in big groups. I also notice how handsy they are with one another. Arms around each other's shoulders walking and even holding hands or the forearms. I don't know if this is a cultural thing or if they are gay or bi. But I suppose it would explain why they are so into gangbangs and taking turns on women. I see them in towels in the hallways of hotels which I presume means they must be naked in front of one another in their rooms. Their behavior is odd and abnormal compared to your average punter who is stealthily riding solo like a sigma.[/QUOTE]Indian couples have a long tradition of aborting female fetuses or killing female babies. The result is a severe shortage of women in India. A recent poll showed that tens of millions of Indian men have no chance of ever getting married.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2747529]Indian couples have a long tradition of aborting female fetuses or killing female babies. The result is a severe shortage of women in India. A recent poll showed that tens of millions of Indian men have no chance of ever getting married.[/QUOTE]Let me explain. I migrated from India at 25, as a professional, as America needed me, gave me a green card in India with minimal wait time. I am Grateful for the Chance to further myself. No putting arms around shoulders and holding hands is cultural, and does not indicate being Gay or Bisexual. Yes, bad behavior walking down Hotels in [URL]Towels.Com[/URL]Mon. Practice in all male environment as dorms. Nothing sexual and no exposure. Devout Indian males, go straight from Shower to Pray, before being dressed, so still in towels. Yes, yes true about Skewed Sex ratios. Tragically now Women shortage and so sexual frustration and Female Molestation.
Also Cultural prejudice of Family women being saints and all others are sinners affects attitude to women and I see this in very successful men in USA. Just throwing some light not justifying BAD Behavior.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2747529]Indian couples have a long tradition of aborting female fetuses or killing female babies. The result is a severe shortage of women in India. A recent poll showed that tens of millions of Indian men have no chance of ever getting married.[/QUOTE]I don't think Conclusions derived from observations are true. No, I don't justify poor behaviour by Indians, But you are wrong and right now I just don't have the time or inclination to reply. Maybe later. By the way I live in USA as professional and travel Widely Mongering and non-mongering.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2747315]This is true.
But, this High Season will be the busiest in the history of Pattaya. Ignore the Gloom and Doomers.[/QUOTE]No way in San Jose.
Pre Corona each recent high season was worse than the previous one.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2747529]Indian couples have a long tradition of aborting female fetuses or killing female babies. The result is a severe shortage of women in India. A recent poll showed that tens of millions of Indian men have no chance of ever getting married.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.findeasy.in/indian-states-by-sex-ratio/[/URL]#text=India%20 Sex%20 Ratio%202022,-As%20 per%20 the&text=According%20 to%20 National%20 Family%20 Health,985%20 females%20 to%201000%20 males. Speculation is not fact sir. And even gender declaration during pregnancy is illegal in India.
[QUOTE=RedMau5;2747391]You realize you are in country with a dowry tradition that increases in amount with virgin girls right? Sex for money not illegal or enforced, but many the activities pertaining to it are illegal. So it's a moot point. That's how corrupt societies and governments work. Vague and confusing laws and rules which allows for multiple interpretations by multiple people. Foreigner sitting alone on an empty beach maskless is 100,000 baht fine, but a LPGA Thai golfer taking photo for the newspaper without her mask is perfectly ok. Visa granted by a Consulate who reviews your paperwork, but can be revoked on arrival by random Immigration officer who dislikes your look. Makes no sense. They hand people the rope already tied to hang themselves. See their vape laws but there are sales everywhere you see. See the cannabis laws. All vague and leave a bunch of room for arrests and fines. And yes, you and everyone else have broken these anti-prostitution laws. If they want to they can arrest you for picking up a girl in from of Nana or a GoGo bar or Massage Shop or Smoochie. The devil is all in the details. So we are all breaking their anti-prostitution laws when we monger here. Read it and weep and count how many have you broken. They've learned a long time ago, if it is clear cut in writing, the people will hold you to it. So the laws are all written vaguely.
[URL]https://www.ilo.org/dyn/natlex/natlex4.detail?p_lang=en&p_isn=46403[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.thailandlawonline.com/table-of-contents/criminal-law-translation-thailand-penal-code[/URL]
Title IX is the section you'll want to review.
I don't see anything suggesting prostitution "in a brothel" is illegal as your link suggested. Unless it is a brothel where the deed is on public display I suppose. Running a brothel, pimping as in helping someone procure a prostitute, living off the money someone else earns from prostitution, age-related, by force or coersion, etc, yes, I see those behaviors cited as illegal.
We might remember the wording of the pimping offence when we are asked here, "Can anyone recommend where I can get a good blah blah blah"? LOL. Oh, and maybe the parts about coersion when we've bought her a 7th Ladydrink before we "go with the flow and see what happens in the room".
But a customer and a prostitute engaging in the exchange of sex for money "in a brothel", I don't see that in the code. Unless I just missed it somewhere.
Otherwise, I stand by my previous statement on it. Sure, a corrupt government or police force could arrest you for just standing on the street. But that isn't something anyone can realistically protect against by being careful, cautious or good.
So normally each month I cash exchange $2000 USD for strictly pussy, blowjobs, handjobs, and naughty massages. This is my monthly budget just for mongering, not food, drinks, rent, etc.
Back in February this year, at a booth rate of 32.5 to $1. I was given 65,000 baht.
When I arrived a month ago, I got a rate of 36.5 to $1. I was given 73,000 baht.
Today, I got a rate of 37.6 to $1. I was given 75,200 baht.
My rate I pay for ST with a girl is a standard 1100-1500 for 1 hour. Most of the time, I rarely budge from that range offer. And I mean extremely rare. If my trigonometry is correct, I figure I got 5-7 free pussies since my last stay in February. And and possibly 2 more free pussies for the month of October. Or should I just splurge on an absolutely "free" stunner for 2000?
And yes, even though you pay for things, it's technically free if it is found money and no work is involved. You find a 60 baht on the ground and go buy pad krao pao goon for lunch. Your lunch was free, free, free. Keep that in mind when governments keep printing that money. Kakakaka.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2747529]Indian couples have a long tradition of aborting female fetuses or killing female babies. The result is a severe shortage of women in India. A recent poll showed that tens of millions of Indian men have no chance of ever getting married.[/QUOTE]Hence the term 'CurryCel' LOL.
[QUOTE=Jayagopal50;2747561]Let me explain. I migrated from India at 25, as a professional, as America needed me, gave me a green card in India with minimal wait time. I am Grateful for the Chance to further myself. No putting arms around shoulders and holding hands is cultural, and does not indicate being Gay or Bisexual. Yes, bad behavior walking down Hotels in [URL]Towels.Com[/URL]Mon. Practice in all male environment as dorms. Nothing sexual and no exposure. Devout Indian males, go straight from Shower to Pray, before being dressed, so still in towels. Yes, yes true about Skewed Sex ratios. Tragically now Women shortage and so sexual frustration and Female Molestation.
Also Cultural prejudice of Family women being saints and all others are sinners affects attitude to women and I see this in very successful men in USA. Just throwing some light not justifying BAD Behavior.[/QUOTE]Lack of access to sex is an issue everywhere, in western and non-western countries, just in different ways. Personally, as an American, eventhough I'm tall and above average looking, I never had luck with women, could never get dates let alone relationships. That's what led me to being a punter. My first time in Thailand was in 2017, instantaneously, I went from depression to happiness. Thailand is quite the elixir to men's problems back home. As monotonous and depressing life can get back in the US, I always have travel and punting to eventually look forward to.