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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1911482]Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand, neither from the selling side, nor from the buying side.
In other words: behave discretely (as the Thai do) and all is fine.[/QUOTE]This is incorrect as I have stated before. Prostitution is illegal. However it is tolerated.
Last night was Saturday night and instead of doing the usual rounds I went out on a date with a "good girl" as some here like to call them. Most of they guys that go for this type of girl probably do it either because they're looking for a girlfriend of some kind or are after sex without handing over $$ to a bargirl thereby justifying to themselves that they don't always pay for sex in Thailand. Due to the fact I do not live in Thailand and have in the past failed at long distance relationships I fell into the second catagory.
About 9 months ago I met Miss see on Tinder and messages shot back and forth until there was a meeting arranged, which due to circumstances did not end up happening at that time. Fast forward to last month and we eventually caught up over coffee. That went ok but probably a little stiff, like you were going out on your first date ever as a teenager.
Yesterday we got back in contact and arranged another date and it went well. We went for dinner to a restaurant she suggested, we drank a bottle of wine, several contails and had a good time talking before we called for the check. After that we went to a pub nearby and it was only on the walk over there that I realised that I was quite tipsy.
Inhibitions reduced things started to get hotter between us inside the pub where we played pool and drank a couple of beers. Despite us getting a little up close and personal I did not get the feel that she wanted to join me in my hotel. After maybe 2 hours I realised that although things were kind of moving in the right direction, Miss see had clearly had a lot to drink, me too, but I totally despise guys who take advantage of drunk girls on the premise that they were drunk too. I knew what I was doing and I said it was probably time we went home. Obviously if Miss see had suggested she come to my hotel I would have accepted, but I wasn't going to ask under circumstances.
Anyway I know I've rambled on here and some of you may have thought the moral of the story here is not to take advantage of drunk girls, it's not. The moral of the story is that if you are really looking for sex tonight then don't bother with a good girl, just take a hooker, it will save you time and money. With dinner, wine, coctails, beer etc I spent nearly 5 K last night and I slept alone.
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1912874]Last night was Saturday night and instead of doing the usual rounds I went out on a date with a "good girl" as some here like to call them. Most of they guys that go for this type of girl probably do it either because they're looking for a girlfriend of some kind or are after sex without handing over $$ to a bargirl thereby justifying to themselves that they don't always pay for sex in Thailand. Due to the fact I do not live in Thailand and have in the past failed at long distance relationships I fell into the second catagory.
About 9 months ago I met Miss see on Tinder and messages shot back and forth until there was a meeting arranged, which due to circumstances did not end up happening at that time. Fast forward to last month and we eventually caught up over coffee. That went ok but probably a little stiff, like you were going out on your first date ever as a teenager.
Yesterday we got back in contact and arranged another date and it went well. We went for dinner to a restaurant she suggested, we drank a bottle of wine, several contails and had a good time talking before we called for the check..[/QUOTE]Haha, nice story mate. Don't take it to serious (it seems you don't) and don't forget, probably more as the half of the 5 K you spent for yourself. The rest was good time and a good company. Isn't that worth something?
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1912874]Last night was Saturday night and instead of doing the usual rounds I went out on a date with a "good girl" as some here like to call them. Most of they guys that go for this type of girl probably do it either because they're looking for a girlfriend of some kind or are after sex without handing over $$ to a bargirl thereby justifying to themselves that they don't always pay for sex in Thailand. Due to the fact I do not live in Thailand and have in the past failed at long distance relationships I fell into the second catagory.
About 9 months ago I met Miss see on Tinder and messages shot back and forth until there was a meeting arranged, which due to circumstances did not end up happening at that time. Fast forward to last month and we eventually caught up over coffee. That went ok but probably a little stiff, like you were going out on your first date ever as a teenager.
Yesterday we got back in contact and arranged another date and it went well. We went for dinner to a restaurant she suggested, we drank a bottle of wine, several contails and had a good time talking before we called for the check. After that we went to a pub nearby and it was only on the walk over there that I realised that I was quite tipsy.
Inhibitions reduced things started to get hotter between us inside the pub where we played pool and drank a couple of beers. Despite us getting a little up close and personal I did not get the feel that she wanted to join me in my hotel. After maybe 2 hours I realised that although things were kind of moving in the right direction, Miss see had clearly had a lot to drink, me too, but I totally despise guys who take advantage of drunk girls on the premise that they were drunk too. I knew what I was doing and I said it was probably time we went home. Obviously if Miss see had suggested she come to my hotel I would have accepted, but I wasn't going to ask under circumstances.
Anyway I know I've rambled on here and some of you may have thought the moral of the story here is not to take advantage of drunk girls, it's not. The moral of the story is that if you are really looking for sex tonight then don't bother with a good girl, just take a hooker, it will save you time and money. With dinner, wine, coctails, beer etc I spent nearly 5 K last night and I slept alone.[/QUOTE]The true moral of this story is good Thai girls don't ask to go to your hotel. Next time invite her over, sleep off the boose with a good cuddle session and take care of business in the morning. End of story.
Another moral might be you are clearly a gentleman and not a sleaze. I've had so called mates essentially r-a-p-e drunk female friends whenever they felt it was their prerogative.
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1912874]Last night was Saturday night and instead of doing the usual rounds I went out on a date with a "good girl" as some here like to call them. Most of they guys that go for this type of girl probably do it either because they're looking for a girlfriend of some kind or are after sex without handing over $$ to a bargirl thereby justifying to themselves that they don't always pay for sex in Thailand. Due to the fact I do not live in Thailand and have in the past failed at long distance relationships I fell into the second catagory.
About 9 months ago I met Miss see on Tinder and messages shot back and forth until there was a meeting arranged, which due to circumstances did not end up happening at that time. Fast forward to last month and we eventually caught up over coffee. That went ok but probably a little stiff, like you were going out on your first date ever as a teenager.
Yesterday we got back in contact and arranged another date and it went well. We went for dinner to a restaurant she suggested, we drank a bottle of wine, several contails and had a good time talking before we called for the check. After that we went to a pub nearby and it was only on the walk over there that I realised that I was quite tipsy.
Inhibitions reduced things started to get hotter between us inside the pub where we played pool and drank a couple of beers. Despite us getting a little up close and personal I did not get the feel that she wanted to join me in my hotel. After maybe 2 hours I realised that although things were kind of moving in the right direction, Miss see had clearly had a lot to drink, me too, but I totally despise guys who take advantage of drunk girls on the premise that they were drunk too. I knew what I was doing and I said it was probably time we went home. Obviously if Miss see had suggested she come to my hotel I would have accepted, but I wasn't going to ask under circumstances.
Anyway I know I've rambled on here and some of you may have thought the moral of the story here is not to take advantage of drunk girls, it's not. The moral of the story is that if you are really looking for sex tonight then don't bother with a good girl, just take a hooker, it will save you time and money. With dinner, wine, coctails, beer etc I spent nearly 5 K last night and I slept alone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1912874]Anyway I know I've rambled on here and some of you may have thought the moral of the story here is not to take advantage of drunk girls, it's not. The moral of the story is that if you are really looking for sex tonight then don't bother with a good girl, just take a hooker, it will save you time and money. With dinner, wine, coctails, beer etc I spent nearly 5 K last night and I slept alone. [/QUOTE]Absolutely! If you are dating "good girls" but your target is to have easy and cheap sex, you are on the wrong track.
On the other hand, some of the best sex I've ever had is with my present Thai "good girl" GF.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1912038]Discovered a picture of a premise from a forum and it doesn't mentioned the name only can see the word "RED" in the picture.
If any senior expert know where is it? If it is in Bangkok?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Red is the Tawandang venue on Chaeng Wattana, Pak Kret. It is a favorite P4 P ladies hang out when they are off duty.
[QUOTE=BkkMick;1913078]Red is the Tawandang venue on Chaeng Wattana, Pak Kret. It is a favorite P4 P ladies hang out when they are off duty.[/QUOTE]Really appreciate your help, would like to hit it in winter on my trip.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1912465]Facts are prickly things LOL. Between the repeatedly false narratives, fake posters, and fawning sycophant apologists the cred here is close to zero.
SL.[/QUOTE]And now the premises are working again, new names, new decoration, same girls, prices and services as before.
New ownership.
The major stake holder sold his share of the business and retained the name under his ownership.
That can only mean he still finds some value in Dr. BJ brand. Despite all our assumptions and speculations?
[QUOTE=JoeAnt1966;1912000]I am new to this forum. I am visiting Bangkok in December. I want to know if the massage spas in 5 start hotels offer extras? I am planning to stay in Renaissance or Hilton. Please advice soon.[/QUOTE]You have a food 4 months to RTFF and you want advice soon?
You got BKK and want to stay secluded inside an hotel? For that you can go anywhere in the world.
Each one his own, of course.
The action in BKK is searched outside the hotel.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1911482]Prostitution is not illegal in Thailand, neither from the selling side, nor from the buying side.
However:
* openly and wantonly solliciting in public (both from selling and buying side) is illegal (but the fines are dirt cheap and rarely if ever applied for buyers).[/QUOTE]I've been told by the beach road (Pattaya) girls that the fine is now applied at a rate of 1,000 baht. Most definitely not cheap. Many girls have ceased attempting to ply their trade there due to this extreme & frequent cost. (Whether it's an actual "fine" or just a shakedown I can't say). They did say that those who can't pay - and there are many - end up in the monkey house for an extended stay.
[QUOTE=LaoMan;1912862]This is incorrect as I have stated before. Prostitution is illegal. However it is tolerated.[/QUOTE]Actually if you will read the three laws / acts pertaining to prostitution you will find that it is a grey area and not specifically illegal per se.
[QUOTE=Grrrr;1912874]Last night was Saturday night and instead of doing the usual rounds I went out on a date with a "good girl" as some here like to call them. ...
Anyway I know I've rambled on here and some of you may have thought the moral of the story here is not to take advantage of drunk girls, it's not. The moral of the story is that if you are really looking for sex tonight then don't bother with a good girl, just take a hooker, it will save you time and money. With dinner, wine, coctails, beer etc I spent nearly 5 K last night and I slept alone.[/QUOTE]So you went to sleep with some heavy balls and a light wallet. It has happened to the best of us, and it has happened to me too. I did much the same thing back in 2007, and then again in 2009, and then once more in 2010. Each time it was slightly different, and I did end up bedding the lady once (2009). But predictably, it turned into a complicated soap opera, and I'm glad all that stuff is behind me now. But I have to say that despite ending up, like you, with the heavy balls at the end of the evening (in 2007 and 2010), there was a definite thrill to the whole thing. It's somewhere between P4 P and the real pursuit of a girl, and I think that's because we assume Thai women are somehow easier than western women. In any case, my point: even though it seems like a waste of money and waste of time, I think you probably did get something out of it.
Regardless, got to say, I'm loving your reports. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Kumbu;1913544]So you went to sleep with some heavy balls and a light wallet. It has happened to the best of us, and it has happened to me too. I did much the same thing back in 2007, and then again in 2009, and then once more in 2010. Each time it was slightly different, and I did end up bedding the lady once (2009). But predictably, it turned into a complicated soap opera, and I'm glad all that stuff is behind me now. But I have to say that despite ending up, like you, with the heavy balls at the end of the evening (in 2007 and 2010), there was a definite thrill to the whole thing. It's somewhere between P4 P and the real pursuit of a girl, and I think that's because we assume Thai women are somehow easier than western women. In any case, my point: even though it seems like a waste of money and waste of time, I think you probably did get something out of it.
Regardless, got to say, I'm loving your reports. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Haha yeah, it IS a thrill.
But Kumbu, you may try it again. Time has changed a lot in Thailand. I have the impression just lately the Thai women's start to enjoy themselves and don't give much a fuss about tradition and what should be in old fashion way. They just want to have fun and good company. If they get this, many are eager to give a guy company, strictly NSA from themselves. I don't remember such things 5 to 10 years back, not to talk 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=LaoMan;1912862]This is incorrect as I have stated before. Prostitution is illegal. However it is tolerated.[/QUOTE]You are wrong and clearly you did not read the legal texts. Stop spreading this false information.