Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

While after three times at bat, I'm about as jaded as you can get, I wouldn't write off a 24 year old Filipina without due consideration. It is true that after living in the land of Hillary and Walmart many women do get rather uppity in their notions, I have found that many Filipinas still remain far more loyal to their American mates simply because no matter how bad we are, we shine in comparison with what they grew up with.

My father-in-law (currently on wife #4 in a country with no divorce and about 6 different family units) is constantly the example my wife gives as to what is wrong with Philippine society by being so "babaero" (personally he is my hero since women seem to throw themselves at him still)

I'll be blunt on the subject.

If you can deal with the fact that once in the US, she is highly likely to leave you after she gets the green card.

Look in the mirror, is the reason you couldn't find a mate in your original country because you are old, fat, unattractive, etc. yeah, yeah, we all hear the arguements, "I just prefer the girls in the PI because they are ( ). "I can find a girl here but I don't like the stuck up bitches of the US" "PI girls know how to treat a woman" blah.. blah.. blah.. this can be true for some but to be very blunt, on my trips around the PI, most of the guys I've seen don't look like a good catch.

From what I've seen, if your age difference is around 15 years or more, the chances are even higher that she'll leave you. Everyone says that Asian girls like older men, true for some but when it comes down to it. You're old and fat, she's young and cute, she comes to the states and sees many young handsome studs, get the kids DNA tested.

I was reading about somebody doing a prenup before marrying a foreign national. It will 99.9% be unenforceable because once she gets to the point of getting a divorce from you, she'll get an American lawyer that will point out that when she signed the prenup she was not on equal footing with you. She was younger and naive, she did not have self appointed attorney representation, she had to "marry you to leave the poverty" behind, etc. etc. Forget about it.

Mook

Mook:

You pretty much said it all. Old and fat attracts young and pretty only in the circumstances found here. Once in the US, the whole deal changes, or once in the US and the green card has been obtained, the deal changes.

I honestly don't think that Philipino women make good brides compared to other asian women like Japanese, and Chinese. Reason being that Japanese and Chinese women tend to be more family oriented and the culture is more male dominated. I'm sure there are plenty of people that would disagree with this, but just take a look at the Philipino's in the U.S. even though they were not born there or are new arrives tend to be quite americanize and pick up the more less desirable qualities rather quickly compared to other asian . If your looking for a true asian woman I think you should look else where, your chances of being happy are higher. One good thing about philipinos are they speak English which makes communication much easier . I personally would rank philipinos very low as wife material, unless the girl is unattractive and comes from the country side.

What other analyses can you guys offer?

I am relatively young (27) and I keep in good shape (190cm, 95kg) by a strenuous running routine (10km per day/ 4x per week) and I lift weights. The only problem is: If I want to have access to Asian vagina in the United States (being black) there is just not enough to go around. It seems that being associated with my brothers has not made things good for me. (It doesn't make things good in China, either. At least most people in the United States understand that being black does not necessarily make one unable to speak English or HIV infected. And that there are black people from other places in the world aside from Africa.)

And it's not that black men can't get carpet in the USA (since there is the issue of supply and demand within the black community). It's just that 95% of white women who date black men look like Jabba the Hut. And I am not too interested in black women.

So, let's say a young and nice looking girl meets a guy who fits my description. What happens then? I know that the passport is a factor in some girls decision, but I am not too revolting to look at or anything like that. I think that the only thing that would make me undesirable is that I am 100% uniterested in having children. Non-negotiable.

Clandestine:

I'm not sure what you're asking. If therre is any racial crap here in the PI I have never seen it, which does not necessarily mean it does not exist. I've seen a fair number of Filipinas with black guys in Manila, and the guys sure as hell looked happy.

I would think that the color of your passport here is a hell of alot more critical than the color of your skin. The passport issue is a recurrent theme here, and most, if not all of the women want to get out.

GE

Clandestine782, I was generalizing and but I think I was getting my point across, this what I said about being fat and old was not meant to say all guys are like that. But let's face facts, the majority are. I'm fat but still young and I'll be old soon. I'm not saying I'm any better. Just pointing out to the fellas to be realistic.

I was in the PI with 2 friends for about 2 weeks. Couple of days in AC, Cebu and Manila. It's like you're living in a dream, things go by so fast, no pressure of work, no stresses of everyday life, just fun 24-7 with friends. You just can't think straight during this time. Even though I was there for 2 weeks at the end of the 2 weeks, it felt like I was there for months.

This is a big clue as to IF you relationship will last, yes relationships are based on love, personality, etc but physical attractiveness has a bit to do with it too right.

If realistically you can attract a lady of similar attractiveness in your home country compared to the PI then there's no problem. But if a young cutie won't give you a second look at home but gives you long stares in the PI. Don't fool yourself.

In terms of being black in the PI. Once they hear your accent and that you have an American accent, they will notice the color of your passport, the blue with gold eagle emblem. They won't see other color except blue and green now.

Mook

To clandestine 782,

Once they know you are American you can forget any type of racial bias , they will swarm over you like a lottery ticket, which you are . Every living American to almost 95% of single Filipino ladies is a walking Donald Trump, a multi-millionaire who could easily solve all her financial problems. NO not even think twice about encountering problems

Hi Clandestine,

Why so secretive if your young and single, just kidding.

One of my partying partners in the Philippines is a Black fellow from the USA. Both of us are from North Carolina.

There is Racism in the Philippines, just like everywhere else. Try being American in most cities in Japan, white or black, and you will see what I mean. However, there is no rasism with any ill will or hate towards Black men in the Philippines.

All over this board you will see examples of the girls with the white makeup on their faces. It is considered to be more desirable to be of a lighter complexion and the beauty stores are full of all types of creams that supposedly lighted the skin. That is a local racism that occurs.

Wait till you see some of the commercials in the Philippines on the local television stations. There are creams that lighten your skin, completely remove scars, no matter how bad. Creams that increase your height by as much as 6 inches. Creams that will enlarge your breast and also take fat off your body. All directed at the girls. It is completely hilarious. Most these products are from Taiwan as well as the commercials and I can't believe that the local government lets them advertise this stuff on TV. Of course it isn't much different from the late night advertisements in the USA. Except these charlatans in the USA do use wording to get by the FCC guidelines.

I've jumped of track here. In any case there are girl in the Philippines who prefer black men, some prefer white men, others do not care at all. My friend has been turned down before, but there was always another girl jumping at the chance to go and get speared. I have had the girl with me tell me that her friend either doesn't want to go with the black guy or in most cases is scared to go. I'm sure you can guess the reason why.

We have worked out a system where we will just ask upon entering a bar which girls like black men. This way my friend doesn't waist money on drinks for a girl who will not leave with him, which had happened a few times. He always has plenty of excited girls to choose from.

As for LA Cafe and the other free lancer places, if they talk to you they are interested and trust me there are plenty that are interested and not just because your American or other Western tourist.

My buddy and I plan to be in the Philippines in early November. If you are there then and would like to join us and see the action with a couple of semi pro mongers PM me.

Enjoy,

FF

Clandestine said "It's just that 95% of white women who date black men look like Jabba the Hut."

That's real funny, but how come whenever I see a white girl with a black guy, she's invariably a hottie? And I'm not talking about interracial porn.

Mookman, very interesting observation regarding:

"I was reading about somebody doing a prenup before marrying a foreign national. It will 99.9% be unenforceable because once she gets to the point of getting a divorce from you, she'll get an American lawyer that will point out that when she signed the prenup she was not on equal footing with you. She was younger and naive, she did not have self appointed attorney representation, she had to "marry you to leave the poverty" behind, etc. etc. Forget about it."

It would seem that the only viable solution is to just fuck, not marry, these women. Fuck em for a year then trade them in for a new girl. If you want kids, you can have a surrogate mother to carry it for you.

King Arthur, I disagree with the fuck'em and leave'em policy because we're suppose to be people and have a concious. If it's straight P4P then no problems but when guys are promising girls to marry them and them leave them high and dry that's just plain fucked up. There girls are people not animals to throw out when you are bored. Make no promises and play it straight and you make no problems for anybody and yourself.


For the most part, if you want to marry a girl from the PI and want to make sure it actually lasts. Others suggest marrying a girl that is already well off and doesn't need your money but that's almost impossible and let's face it, if they didn't need your money why the hell would they marry your ugly, loser ass, right?

I seriously believe that you must get a girl that is in your league. If you are old and fat and try to marry a young hottie, who's 20 years old, chances are that it's not going to last long once she comes to the US. Now if you get an older woman in her 30's or 40's then ok, way better chance. But that kinda defeats the purpose right of going to the PI to find a young hottie.

I know 2 guys in their 20's, married girls from the PI also in their 20's. So far their marriages are working fine they are happy and it seems like it will last. Reason being, these guys would of married the same type of girl if they married girls from the US, it's just that they happen to be from the PI.

So basically, if you can't get the same type of girl from the US as in the PI then most likely it will not work out, plain, simple and being realistic.

Mook

Prenups are enforceable regardless especially if she from the Philipines, because there laws are very close to our own. Lawyers from the Philipines can come to the u.s. and just take the bar and if they pass they are recognized as a lawyer. So, a buddy of mine who is a good lawyer says it can be enforce and with a good prenup it basically iron clad, and will hold in up in court, one of the things he told me was that you must keep your assets separate and have a list of what items you came into the marriage with and have your lawyer draw up the document as such.

As for the issue of f*cking them and leaving them, hell most of them will end up leaving us when they get to the u.s. so what the hell. You know most of the girls will give you lines etc. and lie to you so all is fair in love and war.

I don't think you should lead a virgin on or anything like that but if she a bar girl or some chick that gives it to you the first hour you know that chances are she in it for the pasport or the money

iI you are an educated black man, your kinda of shit out of luck. I think if you dress hip hop and is thugish, go to japan lots of japanese girls are really into black guys that can't have that urban ghetto look. I've always question why would anyone want to go down versus up. I believe that the Philipines are quite open to black guys as well. Even in the states, but your shit out of luck with most other asians though.

I met a 75 year old guy on the golf course today, who has a five year old child here. I know another guy of 73, who just started a new restaurant, and whose 20 something year old wife is pregnant. Some may call this a triumph of optimism over common sense, but I don't think so. These guys have, by moving here, given themelves a new lease on life. They're happy. They're productive, and the women to whom they're married do not feel at all cheated.

These relationships would not, of course, work in the West. First, the men could never hope to attract such women and even if they could, the extent of the ridicule from society at large would create enormous strains. It's better, I think, if you're considering the "May/December" route, to stay here, where such relationships are not uncommon. There's nothing hypocritical about this. All relationships are at least somewhat contextual, and the cultural context here makes these relationships tenable.

Rather then, considering whether to bring young Filipinas to the States, to Europe, or wherever, the alternative may be to consider whether you should relocate here.

GE