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[QUOTE=Llegy]Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows![/QUOTE]
In general the blowjobs are without condom however out of 4 sessions one of the girls did ask if I want one with a condom.
Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?
[QUOTE=Llegy]Could you please tell more about pricing for sex in Artemis.
How can you evaluate Artemis in comparison with the Palace in Frankfurt?
I visited Palace once last year and was very satisfied. Now I'm thinking about visiting FKK club in Berlin. May be there are any better FKK clubs than Artemis in Berlin?[/QUOTE]
Information on pricing at this club is to be found under this thread.
Very satisfied at Palace? Then you will be satisfied anywhere.
No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]No, there are no better FKK clubs than this one in Berlin.[/QUOTE]I would be willing to try another FKK club elsewhere especially the ones around the Dusseldorf area. But if I find my way back to Berlin, I think that I would rather check out places like Kamilla Dee and Liberty rather than go back to Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Llegy]Such a question. In Artemis girls do blowjob with condom or without?
I prefer without as do in Palace in Frankfurt. Please answer who knows![/QUOTE]
Hi Llegy,
I visited Artemis three times over a 4 day visit in August during the holiday season where a lot of the girls I was sent to find or was recommended were not to be found. In the end I tossed my notes and went hunting and fishing using my primal instincts going for what I like and know.
I had 11 sessions over my 3 visits and each session included BBBJ or blow job without condom as standard. I was not asked if I wanted a covered on and only had that at Palace where one girl insisted she blow me with condom as she claimed to have a core in her mouth and did not want to pass on germs. Fair enough, but I would like to have known before agreeing to going to the room.
Go fill your boots and report back here what you found to return something to this group what we helped you with.
Cheers,
Londonbasketcase
Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers
[QUOTE=Obama]Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers[/QUOTE]Obama,
1. there are female bartenders who serve the drinks - not naked though
2. CIM is 50 euros extra. Swallowing is not the norm in my experience. I've only had one girl at an FKK swallow and I was caught by surprise - but this did not cost extra. I've asked others providers and they all declined to swallow but i guess if you offer another 50 euro, some may take it. Not worth it for me though.
3. if you want CIM they will all charge you 50 euros
Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both!
[QUOTE=Obama]Hello guys,
1. Who serves free drinks at bar areas - naked woman too?
2. About CIM - we have to pay extra 50 euros do they swalow as well or it's extra paid another 50 euros?
3. Do you meet any lady who agreed e.g oral sex and CIM for only 60 euros ? Is it possible to negotiate during the meeting in a room?
Thanks for all answers[/QUOTE]
@Obama,
1. There are fully dressed ladies (never seen men) serving drinks in the two bar areas of Artemis. IN saying that, in all the other sauna club and FKK clubs I have only seen women serving drinks. Only exceptions is at Villa Vertigo where I have seen one of the bar's staff by a man and the one PartyTreff that I have been to date.
2. I think you will find and if you follow many of the reports is that the girls do not swallow in every instance or not all. They wil take your load in her mouth for €50 but will discreetly spit it out. If you really want the girl to swallow it and know it then to ensure you do get this service please do discuss your requirements with first with your service provider.
I think in my cases where girls have swallowed it is because of inadvertance. I mean if you take anything in your mouth you can taste it and might swallow a bit - it is natural.
3. I have not come across many instances where you get a normal session plus CIM for €60 or even €50 in NRW and Hessen. I am sure that there are cases but these are rare in my opinion. You do get this all inclusive service in some smaller clubs like Bernds, Ewa's Club and odd girls at PartyTreffs. If you go to these clubs then you are more surer (note not certain) to get the full deal for a basic price.
Regards
Londonbasketcase
[QUOTE=Oserk Xenn]Can anyone compare Artemis and Van Kampen?
It is quite hard to decide where to go?
Or do you say both![/QUOTE]Van Kampen is apparently not great with customers who do not speak German sometimes. But otherwise, I heard that it's a great place but it is not a FKK club like Artemis. Therefore, there is no entrance fee to pay at VK. If I was to return to Berlin, I would definitely check out Kamilla Dee and Mon Rouge which apparently will accommodate English speaking folks. I would return to Mona (see Berlin section for my review). Probably wouldn't go back to Artemis but that's just me.
came away from artemis with sores last week. happily not the kind of sores you might possibly be expecting. rather the sort you get when you spend nearly twenty hours sitting on plastic stools and sofas over two days.
i’d started on the wednesday morning with some bad luck. i’d tried to slip in a couple of bordello visits before artemis got going. discovered that the two bulgarian twins gabi and christine at
[url]http://www.mona-kant74.de/galerie.html[/url]
who i’d heard would provide guaranteed early day duo fun were not going to be around until mid-afternoon despite my having made a reservation the day before. similar bad luck with a girl at celine69 (no longer on the website, can’t remember her name), and after zipping over to liberty
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]
i had the much-vaunted cynthia, who was part of the parade i took, snatched away from me at the last second by another punter. i ended up trying steffi, on the dubious grounds that she at least had smiled at me, but she was indeed rather disappointing and expensive, and certainly not up to the standards of a good fkk.
day one artemis
so it was off to westkreuz and the cavernous entrance of the club shortly after midday. i was not expecting that much on the day. it was dessous-tag, which i couldn’t avoid unfortunately, and the line-up and numbers were accordingly modest. the following day, thursday, was by contrast fantastic, hopping. after i was finished around 00.30 a.m. i sat on the sofa having a last alkoholfreies and remember just marvelling at the stream of beauties that filed past me on their rounds. i was relaxed, spent, but in a perfect world could easily have notched up another twenty-five sessions from the talent available. i couldn’t tear myself away, had another beer and promptly missed my train.
unfortunately i was also to discover that there has been no change in the practice of a good number of providers at artemis of limiting the services they offer. but back to the first day, where i had just about the whole range of fkk experiences.
londonbasketcase had kindly gone to great lengths to provide me with information on the girls that he had collected over the past few weeks from various mongering sources and his own experience. i devotedly carried this sheet of info around in my gown pocket for two days, regularly squinting at it short-sightedly in the artemis gloom. thanks a lot, lbc. it was little fucking use. lol. most of the star providers i knew or his list recommended were simply not there. several of the girls confirmed that there has been a sharp turnover the past few weeks. anyone looking for celina would be disappointed, and lizzie, also former oase, was in such a foul mood that i passed.
first choice was
joy, lithuania, about 30
medium height
dark brown short hair
a/b breasts
athletic build, shapely legs
joy keeps herself in good trim, everything’s in the right place. she assured me that she kissed, and indeed did when we were in the room. a session with nothing to complain about and little to get excited about either. i faked the end to keep some stamina for later.
i subsequently investigated the poles, who unsurprisingly make up the largest contingent at artemis. many of them really are good lookers. two groups. the ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. among these was bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. she tried six times and i rejected six times. doesn’t it just get tedious? the ones who by contrast don’t approach you but you decide are great candidates on first viewing are equally if not more gorgeous, will enthusiastically confirm “oh yes, you can fuck me immediately, let’s go”, but the subsequent key question reveals the catch: she won’t do this, or won’t so that. special stumbling block was the kissing, as usual. doesn’t that just totally [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off?
having wasted far too much time on these girls i was myself approached by a beguiling romanian girl called christiana, who was curious to know why i was having such a fruitless time with the other girls. clearly an observant young lady. she laughed and stated that i would have no such problems with her unless i wanted anal. i was inclined to believe her. now the third session of the day is the important one. if that one goes well the day usually ends well; if it goes badly the hobby can be in serious danger. so i entrusted my good mood to
christiana, romania, about 25
medium height
dark brown straight long hair
b breasts
great slender body, lovely arse
christiana has an interesting, but not quite beautiful face with very clear smiling eyes. if you had told me she was peruvian-indian, i would have believed you. she was fine. she kissed. hooray. she kissed very well. celebrations. she was an extremely good blowjob practitioner. heart-swelling gratitude. good at sex. how can i get her into my suitcase? i extended to an hour and i can remember well the rhythm we had in 69, as she exactly followed my pace and knew exactly what she had to do. not a hand in sight, and often just light lip and tongue-brushing of little tosc’s tip was enough to keep him hot and firmly at attention. down the other end all was harmonious too, where she is beautifully proportioned with nice spongy labials. it was a damned good session.
there was quite a long pause before my next session. this was partly owing to my need to recover from christiana, partly because i assaulted the late-lunch buffet, but mainly because of these wretched poles. on four separate occasions i angled an approach to one i really fancied, and four times i had to abort on learning that kissing was out. the problem is that you can lose quite a lot of time interviewing them in vain, unless you want to start unsubtly with the “k” question.
what all this propositioning endeavour did allow me to do was experiment with the “nodding” technique, which jackyo and others have been discussing recently. the challenge is how far away can you be and still be able to induce a fair lady with the merest of gestures to break off from whatever she’s doing (and believe me, apart from the inevitable smoking, drinking and chatting, they find a whole variety pursuits, the most entertaining of which is of course scratching their tits) and rush, eager to serve, to your side. i’ve never really thought to develop a method here, but this was a perfect chance. i tried the nod; i tried the smile and nod; i tried the smile followed immediately by the raising of the eyebrows. (i thought about it, but modesty precluded use of the full-bloodied leer accompanied by licking with tongue, and at no point did i reveal anything under the towel). and all from different distances of course. well i was moderately successful, but discovered that the further away i was, the greater the chance that the ugly flabby weightlifter just alongside my intended target would be overjoyed at my interest, and heave her bulk over to my sofa instead. not easy, guys, to get out of that one elegantly. but i did register one triumph, a long distance nod-and-smile to a good-looking and very lively moldavian spinner at the other end of the long bar, although in fairness she did slightly hesitate half way over, either short-sighted or unsure of my intent, but an encouraging pat on the seat next to me fortified her and she was soon beaming her way into my presence. i paced it later, and it measured about 18 metres. how’s that? ok? it was the best i managed. anyway, it was an interesting beginning to a crazy session, with
isabella, moldavia, probably around 20
small, <40kgs
dark long hair
a/b breasts
very slender, great body if you like them very small
she had the talk, she had the walk. a bit wild, but engaging enough. decided to risk it, thinking regie. i was way off.
the problem was that she was really too good. she kissed, and well. she blew, and well. and she had this incredibly tight body, almost impossible to resist even without the great optics. and she wanted to finish me fast. i was in trouble right from the start. i tried all the tricks. went down to daty, so i could cool off, but she wasn’t up for this. took too long. in a hurry. on at least three occasions i withdrew little tosc from the theatre of operations, and each time she was after him again. i protested that i wanted to enjoy her, not just fill her up. all discussions were in vain. the funny thing was that i gradually became convinced that she really believed that this was a measure of her prowess (with the added advantage of course that the session would be over more quickly), but there was nothing truly cynical about her behaviour. as i say, she had a great technique. here i was after two climaxes already on the day in danger of coming after only five minutes. :-) :-) anyway, i gave up and aborted the session unfinished after a quarter of an hour, and sat up to have a real discussion with her. i tried to convince her that what we really want is not what she is giving, and that she could be a star if she could only think it through. she listened, but her comments showed that she really didn’t grasp it. ok, i announced it was shower time, but just asked her at the door what other customers thought. oh, fine, all the turks love her. i could have pissed on the floor.
my next choice was a failure. i’d been watching her all day, undecided, but when she approached me i decided to risk it. she looked fine, and claimed to kiss. and she really was italian, not romano-italian.
clara, italy, early twenties
about 1.65 tall
dark long hair
b breasts
slim body, great arse, everything inviting
if you want to check, she has rather a hooked nose, which with the slightly crinkly hair gives her a jewish air. and if you check, it should be in order to know to avoid her. what she did do well was kissing. so no kissing crunch, but definitely sub-prime performance. her bbbj was simply no good; she couldn’t get the technique right at all, despite a little tuition. and if she falls off the horse at the rodeo as often as she left little tosc behind on her ride in room 17, it would make a sensational video for youtube. in the end i couldn’t really be bothered and spent the rest of the time licking her off in daty. at least i could coordinate it all myself. and she has a fine body, it must be said. as in any profession, just occasionally you come across someone who is absolutely hopeless at his or her job. extraordinary.
one girl who’d been flirting with me for several hours finally corralled me on the sofa directly behind the bar. to be honest i am not sure whether i would have approached her myself. i find these very direct girls a little frightening sometimes :-) :-). it would have been a mistake.
miriam, east germany
over thirty at a guess
about 1.65 tall
medium-length henna-red dyed hair
a/b breasts
another great slim body
i moaned. about the non-kissers. about quick-finishers. about hopeless technicians. she listened dutifully. i wondered whether i was overdoing it, and she later admitted that she had wondered what exactly i was expecting. but neither of us need have worried. she invested the time on the couch, and was rewarded with a session.
miriam is a little domineering, and this was going to be my last session of the day, so i decided to let her take the reins. she was marvellous. started with a heavy-duty oily body-to-body massage with plenty of dry humping and kissing. swung herself round for a divine 69 session. she rode forwards, backwards, every which-way, with perfect control. spoons (lovely handfuls of breast), mish, doggie, all gracefully initiated. as the hour approached its end, she upped the tempo massively and i had a crunching finish in mish. it’s how to do it, a great professional with a smile and the right attitude.
day two artemis
there were many more girls and many more customers the next day, thursday. i arrived around 18.00, and sensed immediately a much more positive atmosphere.
my first encounter was a surprise. there on her barstool, bobbing characteristically to the music, was barbie, known to all the past year at world. i knew who she was, but had never had the pleasure. decided to interview her. she’s a sweet bubbling polish girl, who never has a problem establishing contact. i couldn’t refuse her a session when i established that she had just that minute arrived, knew nothing of the club, not even where the canteen was. so, i had a virgin before me, unfucked in berlin.
barbie, poland
21, i think
1.60 tall
shortish black hair
a/b breasts, naturally a little chunky around the waist
i think it was beffen who concluded that barbie had come a long way during her time at world. i cannot really confirm this, and can only conclude that she has beff’s irresistible superior technique to thank for her apparent progress. either that, or she must have been absolutely bloody hopeless before. :-) she was diligent and obliging, and always smiling of course, but there was little spark with me.
went for the optics next. tall graceful brazilian girl with a gorgeous body and long, long legs, called
luciana, brazil
24-25 years old
1.70 tall
very long smooth brown hair
a/b breasts, flawless skin
not the traditional brazilian with the bubble butt at all, this one is tall, lithe, more the european look except for the somewhat african face. i didn’t start very well. i was so busy admiring the view as i followed her up the spiral stairs, that i tripped on my sandals and fell up the stairs. toscana trying to retrieve his balance and looking foolish, one haughty brazilian looking back in amused disdain, and a couple of other girls laughing at me as they came down the stairs towards me. i finally made it to the room with no further damage. the session was perfectly ok club standard, but again no spark, no inclination on luciana’s part to really get into it. so i spent my half hour exploring her beautiful body with everything at my modest disposal before enjoying the heavy-duty doggie finish in the mirrors. a sight for weary eyes indeed.
it was going to have to be a good choice for third session, and i certainly took my time. there were so many good lookers to choose from. in the end i got involved in a long discussion on the sofa with a sweet hungarian blonde of the impish type, her lovely legs draped over mine just ready to be stroked over the fishnet stockings. she really attracted me. those of you who know eleni from bernd’s/samya will know the type of girl martina is, except that martina is a good bit more attractive.
martina, hungary
30 years
about 1.62 tall
page girl style false blonde, impish face
b breasts, absolutely immaculate body
despite excellent sessions with christiana and miriam, martina was even better. it was a fine finale. she’s one of these providers who loves her job, is serious about wanting to give good service and has the technique to match. i got her to remove the stockings and set eagerly about exploring this wonderful smooth-skinned body. throughout the session she kept returning for more and better kisses, when i would run my hands through her hair. almost romantic, tosc sometimes. and her bbbj is outstanding. she is one of the swirler/plunger sloppy wet operators, everything without hands, and she knows when to lower the tempo when the tension mounts. i again went for the hour, which went by in a flash. i couldn’t bear to live with her because she has this reedy, tinny voice which would drive me crackers, but she will make someone very happy when she’s saved up enough and quits.
all in all a very mixed bag this time at artemis, and i had to be damned patient at times, but when it comes good it’s as good as anywhere and well worth the effort to get there.
Hey Man,
In a word, you're the master. Great read and report, as usual. Although it is heartbreaking to think of Lizzie in a bad mood. Have not seen her in years, but she was always a favorite of mine back in her Oase days.
I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though.
Has Barbie really moved up to Berlin from World? If so, I can confirm that not too much was happening there in terms of talented sexual practices. Personally I think she saves all of her best moves for Beffen.
Best session I ever had there was with a Kino romp with a sexy Turkish gal named Ellie. Would not mind at all tappin' that one again.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Bianca of Poland:
[QUOTE=Dedalus] I think that I fell for this girl Bianca's "charms" on my last visit to Artemis. I seem to recall it being just a ho-hum session. Pretty hot looking though. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toscana] The ones who approach you offer the full range of services, with an upselling vengeance. Among these was Bianca, a blonde bombshell with a gorgeous body, who just wouldn’t take “not yet” or “no” for an answer. She tried six times and I rejected six times. Doesn’t it just get tedious? [/QUOTE]
For my Artemis trip where I visited three times over 4 days (yes one day actually was spent sight seeing - I do like culture as well), I went with Bianca twice - she was my first Artemis girl on my day 1 and also one day 2 as my start of day girl.
I agree with Dedalus and Toscana that Bianca is very pretty and it is hard to resist her blond, blue eyed, long limbed, curvey, beach babe tanned look (well for me it was). She is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.
In the room she did the business but nothing that was amazingly memorable similar to Dedalus' experience. I just liked the visuals and this was why she was a good starter for each day's visit for 2 days. My third day at Artemuis she was not there having returned to Poland for a rest.
It was the image of this gorgeous page 3 model looking girl sucking you in the kino, then later on again in the zimmer as you watched the view looking down or in the mirror beside the bed. Then having covered sex with her in various positions that makes it memorable for me. A nice optifuck.
She did all the basics - kissing, DATY, BBBJ, BLS, covered full sex, massage and was a friendly girl.
She had a great sales technique of feeling you up under your robe, tickling your nipples, stroking your chest, lightly dancing finger tips down your back, and stroking the schwanz and tickling your balls in the main room enticing you for a session.
Thanks,
Londonbasketcase
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Bianca is a hard worker in the sense that she works the room going from customer customer asking for session, as soon as she senses resistance she moves on down the line of customers and then repeats this technique again across just the same line up of customers if not takers wearing you down. I had to give it to her for her eagerness to pick up work from a girl who could get the work on her looks alone.[/QUOTE]Of course we all know girls in any club, where approaching is permitted, who work the room tirelessly. Generally I admire them. Polish Vanessa at Oase (great in the room as well) and Natasha from Belarus at Artemis (less so) come to mind immediately. They also know how to take a friendly rejection gracefully. But some really overdo it, and Bianca is one of them. It was a comment on the service made by LBC on his "list" which fortified me in resisting this really great looking gal.
There is another Artemis girl from Hamburg called Jane who falls into the room worker category. She is very charming too. And sensational to look at. Perfectly straight blonde hair down to the butt, must be 1.80 tall, and everything slender except for the C breasts which looked all natural to me. I didn't go with her, but anyone who doesn't worry about the kissing could land well with her. Must look fantastic in those mirrors. Can't comment on the service of course.
I just want to say excellent report Toscana. It is very readable (entertaining) as well as informative.
Thanks for your effort.