Paris

Denis,

And I might add also that Frenchmen are certainly welcome in America, so long as they tell people that they are really from Belgium or Switzerland. Otherwise the welcome may not be too warm. French people are not too popular here anymore. Hopefully this will change when France's government stops being so openly anti-American.

If an American girl asks you about your political views, the best answer is:

"I'm really not interested in politics."

Of course, the odds are that an insult against Jacques Chirac would be well-received too. But again, there is a small risk that the girl might be different from her countrywomen and really like France. So best to avoid politics altogether, I think.

-Uncle Otto

Funny that one small comment would bring about so many posts. Ha, ha. I agree with Otto. I never discuss politics or other controversial issues with girls. Just doesn't mix. One guy asked why US citizens would visit France. France is such a beautiful country that everyone really should experience. It's great to go to obscure places in the thrill of the hottest girls but it's also good to go to beautiful places around the world. France is definitely one of them. Good luck.

DogDays,

In response to your question I'd say that American (and Japanese) people are probably the only tourists in the world who can throw themselves into the better parts of the Parisian sex scene without suffering a bad shock: the prices are fully comparable with those quoted in Tokyo and New York. On the whole, visiting Paris for mongering purposes would be an act of masochism.

That said, there are other reasons to come (for the record: I'm not French, but live in Paris). Do you like beautiful architecture? Or good food? Or the arts? Or... perhaps top class wine and liquor? Well, all that is unparalleled in this country.

Whether or not the Iraq war has permanently dented the relationship between the two countries I do not want to discuss on this forum. Still, considering that north Europeans (like me) and Americans (like you) are generally better endowed than most French men, one could argue that we wield the most prominent weapons of ass destruction in the region...

Leaving aside the purile jokes, there COULD be something more fundamental to Dennis's point about "leaving the flag at home". Last night my wife and I had dinner in a fancy restaurant (an "in place" in the fifth Arrondissement) together with about 60 other people in evening suits plus... three American tourists wearing trainers and jeans. All sixtytwo of us drank wines that we picked from their (excellent!) 12 pages-long wine card. The three Americans drank Coca Cola and iced water! France is - believe it or not - a free country, and you're free to dress as you please and eat and drink what you want, but I bet you there was not one single person in that restaurant who didn't feel these people were making complete fools of themselves. Well, when in Rome do like the Romans.

Why are we talking about politics?

I would like to fuck as many white French women as possible (I am not interested in Arab French). In fact, I would like to empregnate one.

But this seems to be a losing proposition no?

This is too bad, since I find French women very beautiful and sexy.

Maybe I will go this summer and see if I can get lucky. After all, even in sophisticated France, there must be beautiful sluts.

Funny to see how easely delicious fellows like most of you guys can become agressive and belliquous when in/talking about Paris. I suspect this tension is due to the obvious lack of good mongering options, no?

Take a break and go to some Spanish or Czeck brothel, try Vienna, A'Dam… wherever, it's easy and safe to travel across Europe - you'll be back with a better spirit and a smile on your face.

Cheers

Was sleeping at Hotel Concaorde La Fayette lest week (nearby Porte Maillot).

1. Went for evening-walk walk on Avenue de Villiers, avenue de Wagram, saw nothing. Came back over Etoile, and streets around, no SW (only one overages 60€), only some expensive clubs.

2. Went night after to Bois de Boulogne. Only tv.

Came back around midnight. Found some black girls walking other side of hotel (Congress Hall). I was not interested. Untill I saw very nice lady (Marrokan). Took her up w/o problem to room. FS 150€.

FYI after 11pm you can access hotel-elevator directly without passing hotel entrance from the Congress Hall by using your room-pass to open the door.

Been living in France a week now, first off a few personal facts, I am a average looking Canadian WASP (34) that dresses well, has a little style and speaks basic French. Have lived and worked in 20 counties in the last 10 years. I have never been in a city were it is easier to pick up REAL women, for quality Unpaid real SEX in my life.

The main trick seems to be simply to appear as an enlightened American, one that loves all things French including good food, intelligent conversation, fashion and the art of seduction.

My opinion is that the reason why the pay4play options in Paris at as limited as they are, is that there is not the same level of demand for these types of services. Dare I say it but I suspect most French men have pretty much exactly as much sex as they want, especially when compared to the men from my rather puritanical American continent

Young French have sex in school bathrooms, while North American schools are trying to decide if giving access to condoms is a bad idea, promote medieval ideas on abstinence as realistic way of solving calming young peoples sexual desires, while all the time trying to make sex into a dirty thing to even talk about.

Horny is Healthy!

My Personel Observations about French women:


1)The best pick up line in the world is soft: Hello my name is____. The fact that you’re not French makes it even better.

2)The best conversation start is done like this, you notice an item, shoes, jewelry, or a scarf on her, you comment how you would love to get something like that for your sister (having a sister is not mandatory). Ask her about it. Remember no matter how strange a item of clothing may be to you, for her it is a sincere expression of herself and she will want to talk about it.

3)Never discuss sex with a French woman directly; your mission should be to develop the trust she needs to feel safe to come back to your place. If she accepts, she know what she is accepting.

4)Be current read the newspaper everyday, you can and should discuss anything, but sex, but not get into a any serious difference of opinon (Iraq, Bush whatever) no matter what your hardened beliefs are, remember you a man and want what is between her legs not what is between her ears. Although it must always appear the reverse to her of course.

5)France is the center of the fashion world, you must dress accordly. You do not go to basketball game dressed in hockey gear. And then be surprised people think you odd.

6)Own a least one pair of 300$ shoes, believe me women, especially French women know.

7)Smile at the rudeness of French waiters; warmly be amused by how long service can take. Cést le vie. Never appear anything but completely relaxed.

8)Always have a Bottle of good Champaign and a box of chocolates back at your place. It is always the last card to play, if nothing else works to get her back to your place. It’s a small thing but has already been the deal sealer twice for me, when I though I was going down in flames.

If you insist on acting as total tourist, that solo guy on vacation thing, and just want pay4Play, honestly skip Paris go straight to Prague (my favorite pay4play place)

Any tips or things you have noticed about how to seduce French women would be dutifully studied

MaxC

My Street in Paris>

Terrific report Max!

I especially loved your comment that (deserves bolding)

[b]You are a man! You want what is between her legs, not what is between her ears. Although it must always appear the reverse to her, of course.[/b]

A crown jewel of masculine thought, right there! :D

-Uncle Otto

Mad Max:

Street of the Bad/Mean Males, what an appropriate appelation for the street you are living in, although I don't view mongering as being bad.

Nice report on French women. Your point of view is certainly enlightening and I second the notion that French women aren't prude, having experienced some of them while as a college student during a trip abroad while on semester break.

Max candy,
This is pleasure to see that there are still Gentlemen in this world.
I know now from this board two!
Saint and You
Have fun in the most beautifull city of the world!
Denis

Max Candy,
You seem to have it down to a science. I agree that Gay Paree is one of the worst major cities in Europe for paying mongerers. Could you recommend good pickup places where you find the women to use these lines on? I'm in Paris this week and want to run my own lab experiment.

Well Isseu,

I disagree with you somewhat, Ireland is the worst place in Europe for scoring. Rigid
Catholicism, rip-off prices, not to mention the hazards of the Gardai (Irish police).

Paris(France) is far from perfect and yes I imagine is not as good as the Netherlands & Germany, but it is far better than Ireland for scoring anyday, anyway Paris is a beautiful city with attractive scenery and some attractive women, so all the begrudgers should quit complaining.

One last note, stop talking about politics! This site is about healthy guys like me and you seeking and scoring with ladies.

That's all for now.

Mr.R.

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Any Cafe in Paris any time is the best time and place, honestly!

A few more thoughts.

Just do not be shy.

If your practicing these techniques try them first with 3-6s, they have had the moves put on them less and want to hear them more, once your smooth, move up the food chain.

Always be every polite, calm and relaxed. As I side note, one of the many reasons I like pay4play, is as a sexual tension outlet, in other words, if you got your Brains fucked out the night before, the next day, you have a sort of calm that women can feel. If she offers no response on the “where she found her loving item”, that is –1 point. But not give up, quite yet, just withdraw for a time.


Plan B, Ignore her completely (unless of course she engages you) for about 20-30 minutes, if there is another girl around that you fancy flirt with her, women are quietly competitive, so this will only help your chances, if she is still there, she may be having second thoughts. Explain that your in Paris for x number of days (1 is too short, 4 is ideal, but depends on type) ask her how she would spend that time in Paris, museums, restaurants, yadda, yadda, yadda. Still get cold shoulder. –2 points.

Plan C,
This is hardest one to outline as you have to apply a your intuition, something us men do not use as much as we should.

-Maybe you are simply not her type and it is time for you to leave with class, Game Over. Try again.

-Maybe she is really shy or insecure, many women are (its their little secret, they do not was us to know), she may not realize you were trying to pick her up, tell her you think she is attractive and would like to spend time with her. Yes do it, No, Game Over.

-Maybe, she is too secure, hates men that are too nice, use a small insult, (please be very very careful here gentleman, what is small to man could be huge to a women), something like, there is something in your hair. Perhapos she has spilled a bit of wine, offer to get some soda water. Or she has dog treasure on her shoe. If she falls into defense posture, there is still a chance. Help her; say it happens to all of us and more forward. If she warms up the game is on, she cools off. Game Over –3 points

I just love the classy and beautiful french babes...and they are friendly...if you can talk your way into their heart and get in between their sexy long legs!!....not giving up is the key point.
I guess they wanna be with guys who try hard and could be winners....happy hunting.