Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Wolfi1508; 1462800]Dear friends,

I will be in Sao Paulo next week and could need some advise on how to perform our hobby best without local language skills.

I would appreciate recommendations on English speaking Escorts with proofen skills (Jardins area) as well as places easy to get along with talents. (PM welcome)

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge.[/QUOTE]Dear Wolfi1508,

Unfortunately it is very difficult to find GDPs that are speaking English among freelancers. I knew a couple of GDP that were fluent in English but they are not working anymore.

The best place to go for a gringo with no knowledge of the Portuguese language is still boites (Bomboa, Café Photo, Scandallo Lounge, Spy Bar, etc.) because the GDP working there meet frequently gringos and they have developed a sixth sense to communicate with them even if they don't speak English. Moreover it is always possible to meet there a GDP with a command of the English language. It is more likely to find there a GDP knowing English than in the low end venues such as privês. You can also find GDP that are fluent in English in some clinics. Those who are veterans on this board (like me) remember that there was a GDP working in a clinica in Morumbi that was fluent in English. Hannah, that was her name, was a Brazilian GDP of arab descent that was raised in the Middle East and she went to an American school.

To sum it up: best place for a gringo with no knowledge of Porto is boites because the staff is accostumed to deal with gringos.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1462919]Dear Wolfi1508,

Unfortunately it is very difficult to find GDPs that are speaking English among freelancers. I knew a couple of GDP that were fluent in English but they are not working anymore.

The best place to go for a gringo with no knowledge of the Portuguese language is still boites (Bomboa, Café Photo, Scandallo Lounge, Spy Bar, etc.) because the GDP working there meet frequently gringos and they have developed a sixth sense to communicate with them even if they don't speak English. Moreover it is always possible to meet there a GDP with a command of the English language. It is more likely to find there a GDP knowing English than in the low end venues such as privês. You can also find GDP that are fluent in English in some clinics. Those who are veterans on this board (like me) remember that there was a GDP working in a clinica in Morumbi that was fluent in English. Hannah, that was her name, was a Brazilian GDP of arab descent that was raised in the Middle East and she went to an American school.

To sum it up: best place for a gringo with no knowledge of Porto is boites because the staff is accostumed to deal with gringos.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Dear SG, IMHO I desagree totally of your point of wew!

Boites are as a rule of thumb B&S! Their the staff is accostumated to "deal" with gringos.

In most of the best privées and CLínicas you have at least someone who speaks english. (Redway, Espaço Morumbí, CLínica Cancioneiro, Mirunas have it).

IMHO you shoul avoid boites. The chances ending up spending a fortune to have basically the same you get in a good privée or CLínica. If you want to have more time with the GP you should Test Drive her in the premises and than make arrangement to have her come over your place

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1463013]Dear SG, INHO I desagrre toally of your point of wew! Boites are as a rule of thumb B&S! Hes the staff is accostumated to "deal" with gringos.

In most of the best privées and CLínicas you have at least someone who speaks english. (Redway, Espaço Morumbí, CLínica Cancioneiro, Mirunas have it).

IMHO you shoul avoid boites. The chances ending up spending a fortune to have basically the same you get in a good privée or CLínica are enormous. If you want to have more time with the GP you should Test Drive her in the premises and than make arrangement to have her come over your place[/QUOTE]P. S. If you have a smartphone and use your translator you'll be fine!

And you manage to learn some basic words in Porto you will be able to perform your main task!

Most girls of Redway know how to deal with gringos because almost every day there are several members of ISG and or other english speaking guys on premises. Takuma, the manager speaks fluent english. And you'll spend only R$ 120, 00 and not five times this sum!

Tens of ISG members went to RW these last two weeks but, for one reason or other, they prefer to remain anonomous!

And no one was ripped of!

I hope to hear more reports of people who have been there recently!

Private party next Monday at Redway.

Madam birthday. Pasta and wine, and some surprise strip shows performed by in house garotas as well as some invitated strippers! Fuck Feast starts 7 PM.

Unique opportunity to see a stripper performing and after to have sex with her!

For more details on how to be invited please PM me!

[QUOTE=Wolfi1508; 1462800]Dear friends,

I will be in Sao Paulo next week and could need some advise on how to perform our hobby best without local language skills.

I would appreciate recommendations on English speaking Escorts with proofen skills (Jardins area) as well as places easy to get along with talents. (PM welcome)

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and knowledge.[/QUOTE]Please contact me by PM, I'll be glad to assist you.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1463022]Takuma, the manager speaks fluent english. And you'll spend only R$ 120, 00 and not five times this sum!

Tens of ISG members went to RW these last two weeks but, for one reason or other, they prefer to remain anonomous!

![/QUOTE]1) Takuma speaks English fluently: yes. I can vouch for him. He is a very nice guy. He is the only one who speaks fluently English there: Petra and Vani don't speak English at all.

2) The high price of boites versus privês: when you pay R$500 or R$600 for a GDP in a boîte habitually she will spend several hours with you (five, six, seven hours. It depends of the chemistry between you and her) and in general they are better looking, well groomed, well educated and brighter than privês garotas. I some boîte you can have a nice meal, drink fine liquor and listen to good music. The atmoshpere is different than in a sleazy privê.

3) This infuriates me! ISG members that take advantage of the infos that are reported by contributing members and don't write a report back. They prefer to remain anonymous? My ass.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1463013]Boites are as a rule of thumb B&S! Their the staff is accostumated to "deal" with gringos.[/QUOTE]I disagree: boites are not B&S. B&S means Bait and Switch: it is a way to lure hobbyist by posting nice pictures of garotas on a Web site. When you call an agency and ask for the garota that you'd like to have (because her pictures suit your taste) they send you another garota. Very different from the picture and always older, uglier and fatter than the ones that were used as decoys to lure you.

Maybe you meant Bull Shit by B&S?

Some boites are BS. Probably. But in general I'm more tolerant than you when it comes to judge boites. I don't like them neither. I can understand why some men prefer to go there though. It is normal for an European to spend R$700 (or even more) for a GDP because they pay more than that in their respective country. Moreover, some men don't like to promiscuity of privê and to mingle with the people that hang out there. Vivre et laisser vivre.

[QUOTE=Sui Generis;1463057]3) This infuriates me! ISG members that take advantage of the infos that are reported by contributing members and don't write a report back. They prefer to remain anonymous? My ass.[/QUOTE]In their defense, there probably isn't anything left to report at Redway that hasn't already been reported. Maybe they can report on a girl that they were with, but let's face it, that place is a revolving door of GDP's that are "here today and gone" tomorrow, so to speak. So anyone's best bet is to just go there and see who is in the lineup presented before them.

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1463065]I disagree: boites are not B&S. B&S means Bait and Switch: it is a way to lure hobbyist by posting nice pictures of garotas on a Web site. When you call an agency and ask for the garota that you'd like to have (because her pictures suit your taste) they send you another garota. Very different from the picture and always older, uglier and fatter than the ones that were used as decoys to lure you.

Maybe you meant Bull Shit by B&S?

Some boites are BS. Probably. But in general I'm more tolerant than you when it comes to judge boites. I don't like them neither. I can understand why some men prefer to go there though. It is normal for an European to spend R$700 (or even more) for a GDP because they pay more than that in their respective country. Moreover, some men don't like to promiscuity of privê and to mingle with the people that hang out there. Vivre et laisser vivre.[/QUOTE]I am 100% agree with SG, I will be in this September in SP and I will go to Cafe Fotos and Spy Bar (should be my first time) to pick up a girl with a score 8 to 10 to my hotel for many reasons : clean room, shower, security etc.

You are probably right Azn Safado.

My former post was dictated by anger more than by reason.

I guess that the best thing to do is to find the proper balance between stooges or shills and "stealth" hobbyists.

Today I opted for this conveniently near to my hotel located place. During the presentation Patrizia kissed my lips, instead of pecking my cheek like the others. Taking this indication of mutual sympathy into account, I didn't make a mistake when I chose her. She is a tall morena with a nice face, not too big silicone tits, a little belly, perfect bunda and legs. It was the best fuck of my life, what else can I say?

[QUOTE=Michel47;1463148]I am 100% agree with SG, I will be in this September in SP and I will go to Cafe Fotos and Spy Bar (should be my first time) to pick up a girl with a score 8 to 10 to my hotel for many reasons : clean room, shower, security etc.[/QUOTE]Clean room, shower, security: I think that you mentioned the right words here and that explains why some people prefer this type of venue to other ones.

I think we didn't mention on this board that the owners of Spy Bar are Edson and Washington. These "Kings of the night" were previously behind famous and respected boites such as WE and Garden in Itaim Bibi. With these two guys as owners you can be assured that foreigners will be treated nicely and respectfully. You can even find people there that can help you if you don't know a word of Portuguese.

This is the perfect spot for foreign travelers, businessmen and rich and sophisticated men who favour quality over quantity. Keep in mind that the $500 for the garota is for MSOG and even TLN. Moreover, as there are no rooms available in the boite you can bring the garota in your own hotel room where you won't be bothered by other people. This is simply priceless...

Entrance fee : R$200.
Garota: R$500

[QUOTE=Traveller747;1463249]Today I opted for this conveniently near to my hotel located place. During the presentation Patrizia kissed my lips, instead of pecking my cheek like the others. Taking this indication of mutual sympathy into account, I didn't make a mistake when I chose her. She is a tall morena with a nice face, not too big silicone tits, a little belly, perfect bunda and legs. It was the best fuck of my life, what else can I say?[/QUOTE]Traveller747, thanks!

Excelent report, IMHO this kind of report really helps the members of the board!

Name of the girl and a "resumée" of her performace is the most important information.

I'm a member of the brasilian GP Guia forum for more then ten years, I've reported more than 1. 200 Test Drives there. (It was throug the GP Guia that I met my dear friend Sui Generis ).

We, at the GP Guia, focus mainly to describe the garotas and her performace. And I've tried to do the same here!

Informations about the places can be obtained on the internet!

Each board member has his private desires. Some like Anal, others BBBJ / CIM or DATY.

So, IMHO our main goal is to tell the other members about the more recent experiences and advises. I particularly hate when I do not get what I want, in my case BBBJ / CIM! So for me reports as the one above are essencials.

So I suggest we all get more specific informations about the garotas. And it can be any garota, no matter if she charges charges R$20 for one pop at Rua Conselheiro Furtado 151 or a girl from the TV cast who cost over R$10. 000. That's essencial to the board members!

Only to finish, I woud woucher CLínica Cancioneiro, it's one of the best of São Paulo, it's very near to the Berrini hotels (Hilton, Hyatt) managment is very professional, no chance of being B&S. Also some english spoken!

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1463428]Clean room, shower, security: I think that you mentioned the right words here and that explains why some people prefer this type of venue to other ones.

I think we didn't mention on this board that the owners of Spy Bar are Edson and Washington. These "Kings of the night" were previously behind famous and respected boites such as WE and Garden in Itaim Bibi. With these two guys as owners you can be assured that foreigners will be treated nicely and respectfully. You can even find people there that can help you if you don't know a word of Portuguese.

This is the perfect spot for foreign travelers, businessmen and rich and sophisticated men who favour quality over quantity. Keep in mind that the $500 for the garota is for MSOG and even TLN. Moreover, as there are no rooms available in the boite you can bring the garota in your own hotel room where you won't be bothered by other people. This is simply priceless.

Entrance fee : R$200.

Garota: R$500[/QUOTE]SG do you know if some member from the ISG has been there yet? Is there any paricularry GDP you would mention?

Even in the GP Guia there are very few reports of this place

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1463442]SG do you know if some member from the ISG has been there yet? Is there any paricularry GDP you would mention?

Even in the GP Guia there are very few reports of this place[/QUOTE]If I know ISG member that went there, I don't think so. It is still unchartered territory. But I surmise that at least one member of this board (if he gives me the permission to mention his name: Genghis Khan) as demonstrated interest for this new venue. In the past he liked WE and Garden so that might interest him.

As you said very few reports emanate from GP Guia. A total of 22 reports. 3 positive. 0 neuteur or negative.

One poster even said that going there is very expensive. He added that staying in his hotel to "play with himself" is priceless (Bater punheta sozinho no hotel nao tem preco).

Will I visit this place. I don't know yet. As I mentioned frequently I'm not really a fan of boîte (I don't like to pay entrance fees). The R$500 per se for the garota doesn't bother me that much though. For the same price I still prefer going to a regular bar and try to debunk a non-pro. As I'm not a newbie in São Paulo. With a certain command of Portuguese that I proudly speak with an accent (sotaque). I don't visit places such as Scandallo, Café Photo (last visit in 2011. Where I had a garota for R$300 instead of R$600) but still believe that these venues may attract a certain type of clientele that are ISG members.

Fo reasons I'm not aware of, it is forbidden to post reports on Bomboa, Scandallo Lounge, etc on the GP Guia.